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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for a fabulous Football
Speaker 1: Friday edition of Mick Shots as we get you ready
Speaker 1: for an extended football weekend. I love extended football weekends
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys play on Monday night against the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I don't like Sunday afternoons when the Cowboys don't play,
Speaker 1: or Sunday evenings when the Cowboys don't play, But it
Speaker 1: gets all better on Monday when the Cowboys do play.
Speaker 1: And how are you doing? Person Walls and Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll start with Mickey since it's mix Shot.
Speaker 1: So Mickey, how are you doing in your SWBC mortgage studio?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great on this wonderful fall afternoon here in Dallas,
Speaker 1: Texas area. Gosh, it's cool. We should be going to
Speaker 1: a football game tonight in high school? They still do
Speaker 1: they let you go to high school games? Still? Yes,
Speaker 1: they will Yeah back you've got it in your neck
Speaker 1: of the woods. You got a pretty good quarterback. You
Speaker 1: could go flight. You have some cowboy ties. Doug nuss
Speaker 1: Meyer's son, he's awfully good and headed to LSU. Garrett
Speaker 1: nuss Meyer. Yeah, how about you, Everson Walls and your
Speaker 1: SWBC mortgage studio. How are you doing? I am doing fine.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that the Cowboys have an extra day of preparation.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need it. Hopefully we can get some injured
Speaker 1: guys back in there and show up our personnailed a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm sure, Spag, we'll have an update on
Speaker 1: who's going to be playing, what's going to be happening
Speaker 1: right but Monday night, Well, since you brought it up,
Speaker 1: you know the injury report yesterday of the guys that
Speaker 1: weren't on injured reserve, trying to practice or on the
Speaker 1: commissioner's reserve list, everybody was full in practice. Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: missed for personal reasons, but my understanding is is he
Speaker 1: back out there again today. So from that standpoint, all
Speaker 1: as well, if they just can get the guys on
Speaker 1: ir back on the field, and it sure sounds like
Speaker 1: they're pretty optimistic about Layton Vanderish being ready to go
Speaker 1: Monday night. He practiced yesterday. They were in pads today
Speaker 1: and he was fully padded up and in the individual drills,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was thudding up with his pad.
Speaker 1: So Mike McCarthy seemed optimistic and a lot I'll have
Speaker 1: to do with as you guys know, when you've missed
Speaker 1: time like that, you know, you get one practice. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you feel the next day? And I think
Speaker 1: that I'll have a lot to determine on if he's
Speaker 1: ready to go Monday night. So how important would that
Speaker 1: be if Layton vander esh is ready to go on
Speaker 1: Monday night, in particular against this Arizona offense. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think just having him on the field, no matter who
Speaker 1: you're playing, would be an upgrade from what they can do.
Speaker 1: And it also gives them a little bit more flexibility
Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas on what they ask him to do
Speaker 1: if they might want him to if they want to
Speaker 1: use a strong side linebacker, they can use him there.
Speaker 1: They can rotate and not give vanders sixty snaps in
Speaker 1: the game after being out for five weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: joke and come in on maybe nickel down something like that.
Speaker 1: Have a little bit of a rotation, but just having
Speaker 1: him on the field I think is huge for this team.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to be able to have an extra
Speaker 1: linebacker out there as spags because you know, Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: has been been playing very well. I think his recognition
Speaker 1: has been there. He's played off of the aggressiveness of
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, especially in this last ball game. Of course,
Speaker 1: he's got his weaknesses. We talked about him being more
Speaker 1: of a strong side than a weak side, and that
Speaker 1: really says a lot about his athleticism. So having Vanders
Speaker 1: in there, to me, having that extra body is one thing,
Speaker 1: but with his athleticism that Layton brings to the table,
Speaker 1: you know, we could probably I'm hoping we can show
Speaker 1: up the inside run as well as the zone recognition.
Speaker 1: You heard Romo talk about the Cowboys secondary and I
Speaker 1: meant to bring this up yesterday. He talked about the eyes.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone has their own terminology on you know,
Speaker 1: what they describe and whether it's your flaws or you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's you're the good things you can do. One
Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys problem is the deficit in their and
Speaker 1: their past program is they don't recognize things they don't
Speaker 1: see it. I saw one play I think it was
Speaker 1: against the Giants Jalen Smith turned his back to the
Speaker 1: quarterback in the zone. You don't turn your back to
Speaker 1: the quarterback in his zone. Your eyes should always be
Speaker 1: facing the quarterback and of course trying to determine as
Speaker 1: you view what's going on in your peripheral from the
Speaker 1: wide receivers and tight ends what is developing. And that's
Speaker 1: why we're not good on bubble screens. That's why we're
Speaker 1: not good on pursuit because our eyes are not back
Speaker 1: on the quarterback or back. Was a line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and pass play it best, something that we truly have
Speaker 1: to work on it. Romo can see it as a commentator,
Speaker 1: then of course other coaches see it and other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: see it as well. Something that we really have to
Speaker 1: work on. Right, So, what has the adjustment been like
Speaker 1: for Jalen Smith? You think moving from middle linebacker to
Speaker 1: the will linebacker this year obviously had his best game
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Is as Mickey you pointed out earlier
Speaker 1: in the week, is read and reaction was much better
Speaker 1: in this game. Do you think it? What do you
Speaker 1: think the biggest adjustment has been for him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's been more recognition on what's getting ready to
Speaker 1: happen before it happens. You know, the middle linebacker, you
Speaker 1: know most of that there. You're you're reading what's going
Speaker 1: on right in front of you. My understanding is that
Speaker 1: he didn't play that position at Notre Dame and he's
Speaker 1: you know, and he certainly didn't play outside with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: So this was this was an adjustment for him that
Speaker 1: I think he needed to make. Now we'll see if
Speaker 1: last week was just one of those things, or he's
Speaker 1: actually got this thing somewhat figured out and he's making
Speaker 1: the adjustment to the week side. Because you're you're more
Speaker 1: free to run to the ball, but you do have
Speaker 1: some responsibilities on things you need to cover. And I
Speaker 1: think he showed that this past game with the recognition
Speaker 1: on the screen passes and the little flare passes to
Speaker 1: the outside. So his reads were better and maybe he's
Speaker 1: starting to understand what that takes because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's always been out there with either Sean Lee or
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh so this was a little bit of
Speaker 1: an adjustment. Plus he had the burden of kind of
Speaker 1: making the adjustments out there you know the calls. Everybody says, well,
Speaker 1: he had to make the defensive calls. Well, I can
Speaker 1: make the defensive calls because I could hear him in
Speaker 1: my helmet, right, I just repeat what the coach says.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's looking out there and going, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. But you have yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I want Mickey's personality. I don't think
Speaker 1: Everson that Mickey could make the defensive calls because he
Speaker 1: would have a problem with what the call was and
Speaker 1: I'd make the adjustment and he would he would have
Speaker 1: a discussion with the defensive coordinator about him, sure you
Speaker 1: want to you can't make that call and this you
Speaker 1: can't think, don't decipher. Just make the call. That's what
Speaker 1: they would be saying in your helmet. That would be
Speaker 1: in your helmet the entire time. Just make the call.
Speaker 1: They would take the here aid out of my helmet,
Speaker 1: I guarantee. But when you when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: improvement from Jalen though, I must say his part of
Speaker 1: his improvement was the fact that that that D line
Speaker 1: was more recognizable than what they were doing as well,
Speaker 1: so they had a lot to do with it. He had,
Speaker 1: he didn't have as much garbage in his way. You know,
Speaker 1: they kind of cleared the path for him, They plowed
Speaker 1: the road for him in a lot of ways. A
Speaker 1: linebackers just like a running bad guys. You depend on
Speaker 1: your line. You depend on your line to help you out.
Speaker 1: Just give me a just give me a crease, and
Speaker 1: I'll take care of everything else. And that's pretty much
Speaker 1: what Jalen did last week. He should be able to
Speaker 1: do that again this week because I think the Cardinals
Speaker 1: offensive line is in this array as well. They're not
Speaker 1: running the ball well at all. They're a lot like
Speaker 1: the Giant in regards to that. But of course you've
Speaker 1: got Kyler Murray there as opposed to Daniel Jones. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking for him to continue his improvement. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to give you a spoiler on my pick
Speaker 1: to click, but definitely looking forward to that improvement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a matter of fact on their offensive line. They're
Speaker 1: starting right guard j R. Sweezy was not practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: so we'll see where that goes here the next two days. Yep.
Speaker 1: He he only got in thirty seven snaps last week
Speaker 1: against the Jets. You know, the other thing about a linebacker,
Speaker 1: that will linebacker, you have to have a great peripheral
Speaker 1: vision as well, almost like a running back like you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Dorsett said that he used to to practice when
Speaker 1: he drove his car, he would lose his peripheral vision.
Speaker 1: He you know, see cars out and so. And as
Speaker 1: a will linebacker, when you're reading a play, you also
Speaker 1: have to be able to read where the blocks are
Speaker 1: coming from, that tied end cracking back on you, or
Speaker 1: or a pulling guard or something like that. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things that Sean Lee is able to
Speaker 1: do so well. He can avoid a linebacker that's coming
Speaker 1: out to block him because he's he's got that good vision.
Speaker 1: People don't talk about that enough about I think as linebackers,
Speaker 1: they got to have good vision too, all right. So
Speaker 1: when it comes then to stopping the game that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals do have that is unique, and that is the
Speaker 1: quarterback design runs zone read type plays. Who does that
Speaker 1: put the pressure on on the Cowboys defense? Well, I
Speaker 1: would I would think it puts it on the linebackers.
Speaker 1: You know, your defensive front has a responsibility of at
Speaker 1: least staying in their lanes, so not opening up gaps.
Speaker 1: But if there's a gap, you know, the linebacker's got
Speaker 1: to fill it. So I think that this is going
Speaker 1: to be one of those deals where the as Everson said,
Speaker 1: the defensive line in concert with the linebackers, and it might,
Speaker 1: you know, behoove them to drop a safety down into
Speaker 1: the box quite a bit and maybe they play you
Speaker 1: know that since they don't have a rugged running game.
Speaker 1: Right the leading rusher Yon Drake fourteen, he's averaging three
Speaker 1: point seven a yard. I mean the guy they go
Speaker 1: to ends up being Murray soon Again, maybe you are
Speaker 1: in nickel and you take your chance with the running back,
Speaker 1: but if that safety's dropping in the box, boy, he'd
Speaker 1: better keep an eye on the quarterback. He can't over commit.
Speaker 1: You're looking at situational ball, guys. We talked about this,
Speaker 1: uh I talked about this yesterday in regards to you know,
Speaker 1: coaches being on top of it. There's certain situations where
Speaker 1: we have to be successful. We talked about the end
Speaker 1: of the quarters into the halfs things of that nature too,
Speaker 1: minute drills, third and short fourth down, those kinds of
Speaker 1: things where we have to prepare for some type of
Speaker 1: trickery from from Kyler Murray. We're gonna look for them
Speaker 1: to go heavy, heavy with d hop down the field. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're kind of limited in what they can do as
Speaker 1: far as intellectually now as far as making the they
Speaker 1: can still make the plays. You're getting the red zone,
Speaker 1: we know they're gonna be heavy. Fitzgerald, he's gonna be there,
Speaker 1: tight end. Bill. You talked about that yesterday. So you
Speaker 1: know there are things that we're just gonna have to
Speaker 1: be aware of. That's all of this to it. The
Speaker 1: pressure that we talked about from the zone blocking. If
Speaker 1: they had the personnel to be really good at it,
Speaker 1: then that could be a danger for us. But like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not sure if their offensive line really
Speaker 1: has the personnel too. If the personnel that the defense
Speaker 1: has out there. What's your take Mickey on what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are trying to do defensively in some of the
Speaker 1: personnel packages are putting out there. Well, I think that
Speaker 1: in this case, it looks like the Cardinals will go
Speaker 1: three wide the majority of the time. So that means
Speaker 1: you're going to be in nickel and you may be
Speaker 1: in dime a little more. You know, when you were
Speaker 1: talking about snaps, they almost had a rotation going at
Speaker 1: the cornerback positions too. If you look at the snaps
Speaker 1: in the game, Jordan Lewis had seventy nine percent, Worly
Speaker 1: had seventy five percent, Digs at seventy four percent, and
Speaker 1: then you go down to Anthony Brown, who's playing the
Speaker 1: first time in four weeks, and he had forty nine
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps. So there were times where Diggs
Speaker 1: was out, Brown was at corner, Whirley was at corner.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis basically stays in the slot, and he needs
Speaker 1: to pick up his game too. By the way, uh
Speaker 1: since since I metted up his game and so so yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you did. You kind of did the same
Speaker 1: thing with the safeties switching around. You know. One of
Speaker 1: the things I kind of liked the look was Thompson
Speaker 1: was playing closer to the line of scrimmage. They were
Speaker 1: playing a lot of single safety high too, trusting either
Speaker 1: Parker or Donovan Wilson back there. But there was time
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson dropped into the slot also, so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they kind of mixed up their coverages a little bit.
Speaker 1: And hey, give give those quarterbacks something to read, you know,
Speaker 1: don't just assume let them go to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage and assume what's getting ready to happen. So I
Speaker 1: like the fact that they were in that dime as
Speaker 1: long as they're in it when they know they're throwing
Speaker 1: the ball and they're not trying to stop the run.
Speaker 1: And also, think about it, we were, we were kind
Speaker 1: of handcuffed by the personnel that we have available to us.
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, we we'll always playing nickel and dime,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but you know, there are times when we
Speaker 1: wanted to play as of course the Cleveland game, and
Speaker 1: we wanted to play bigger and we just couldn't. So
Speaker 1: I think we're doing the best we can with the
Speaker 1: personnel that we have, and we're just gonna go with it.
Speaker 1: Just like everyone else in the league. All the injuries
Speaker 1: of the piling up all over the league, I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are just happy was going through that as well.
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Speaker 1: and Cardinals on Monday Night and mentioned Dan. I believe
Speaker 1: yesterday the first time the Cowboys ever played a Monday
Speaker 1: night football game was against the Cardinals. It was the
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals at the Cotton Bowl in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: That was fifty years ago. Yes, fifty years ago, the
Speaker 1: first year of Monday Night. Oh, oh my god. Oh man.
Speaker 1: All right, so now my question do you Everson Walls?
Speaker 1: Do you remember your first Monday night football game as
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys player? Oh? Of course. It was my
Speaker 1: most important moment in my career. You know, when you
Speaker 1: have Howard Coasale. I'm not sure if Yeah, Don Meredith
Speaker 1: was there. I think they had just signed on OJ
Speaker 1: And of course, uh was it Giffer? Was Giffer there?
Speaker 1: I think it was Giffer. I'm I'm not sure who
Speaker 1: was there. In nineteen Yes, we played the New England Patriots, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: the the the ride to the stadium was extremely harrowing.
Speaker 1: You know, those crazy Boston folks I'm sorry. If you're
Speaker 1: some people down here that that can hear me, and
Speaker 1: people in Boston, you guys know you're crazy. Uh. They
Speaker 1: stopped us from making it to the game on time.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys were late for Monday Night Football nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one. The fans would they would stop all of
Speaker 1: the bus. The cops would get off the bikes, go
Speaker 1: up to the cars, the cars will pull off, cops
Speaker 1: get back on the bikes. We go ahead. They stopped.
Speaker 1: We did this for like for like thirty minutes. They
Speaker 1: just kept doing it. They bait the cops. It was
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. I was petrified when when we finally made
Speaker 1: it out there. You know, I've heard of Boston. My
Speaker 1: memory of Boston was looking at Jet Magazine where the
Speaker 1: black dude got stabbed by the American flag. That's what
Speaker 1: I remember by Boston downtown. So I'm like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: keeping my helmet on the entire game. I never took
Speaker 1: it off. I used all of that nervous energy on
Speaker 1: the field. We kicked their butts. Tony Dusset had an
Speaker 1: amazing game. Ron Springs I think scored one or two times.
Speaker 1: Huson Walls had an amazing game, I had two interceptions.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even starting at the time. I was still
Speaker 1: coming off the bench, and that game put me into
Speaker 1: the lead in interceptions for the NFL, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: even starting yet. And then I was donned by by
Speaker 1: Hollow Cosell as the cornerback that the Cowboys had finally
Speaker 1: been looking for since meil Renfrew. And don't you don't
Speaker 1: you start talking about how old mel Renfroll is and
Speaker 1: then you talk about I don't want to hear it
Speaker 1: so well, so Howard Cosell, I mean, because that was
Speaker 1: just the third game of your career, and you got
Speaker 1: two interceptions, which gave you three on the season, because
Speaker 1: you got an interception in your first game, and then
Speaker 1: in your third game you got two picks. So Howard Cosell,
Speaker 1: who was a master of hyperbole, to begin with, very
Speaker 1: good Bill, that's exactly whether you're hanging around i'll lead
Speaker 1: too much. I mean, it'd be easy for Howard Cosell
Speaker 1: to say that about you if it was the thirteenth
Speaker 1: game of the season, where you already had eleven picks
Speaker 1: that year. But those were just your second and third
Speaker 1: pick of your career. An undrafted guy out of Grambling
Speaker 1: and he's already comparing you to mel renfro And sure enough,
Speaker 1: you had not only eleven picks in the regular season.
Speaker 1: But people forget Mickey that. Ever, Everson doesn't forget because
Speaker 1: he remembers every intersection, everything like me, Yeah, everything about
Speaker 1: being But but Everson also had two interceptions in the
Speaker 1: game against San Francisco that everyone talks about, a catch
Speaker 1: that was made and they and a fumble refumble would
Speaker 1: cover to rob me. I've been robbed all my post career.
Speaker 1: So his rookie season he had thirteen interceptions Everson did
Speaker 1: if you count the playoffs, absolutely and you know, if
Speaker 1: you count the Cobo, then let's just count fifteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well he probably threw you. Let's just fold
Speaker 1: it in. So what you needed to point out is
Speaker 1: going to that stadium in New England, the old Stadium.
Speaker 1: It was basically a two lane road, right it was.
Speaker 1: It went through the neighborhood and if I remember right,
Speaker 1: they had to put an ordinance on alcohol being sold
Speaker 1: at the stadium because the people were basically trashing the
Speaker 1: neighborhoods leaving the games at night. Yeah, unbelievable. I don't
Speaker 1: know how they build the state? How do they build
Speaker 1: the state? You know, Buffalo did the same thing. Two
Speaker 1: lane road on the main road that you had to
Speaker 1: take to get to the stadium. Was that rich Stadium?
Speaker 1: Was it called rich Standium? Yeah? Right, yeah? Yeah. And
Speaker 1: now when you start talking about what harbercas sale was
Speaker 1: when he had just made that hyperbolic, hyperbolic statement, built
Speaker 1: that was that was what he was all about. But
Speaker 1: let's think about the context there. It's almost like what
Speaker 1: we have now. It was as if and Everson Walls
Speaker 1: would come right now, and any guy, any guy, it
Speaker 1: could be a Mickey Spagnola. He comes in, he picks
Speaker 1: off two passes. That's something that we hadn't seen before
Speaker 1: in a long time. So if a Spagnola came right now,
Speaker 1: and if he picked off three passes in two games,
Speaker 1: then I would say we have us another mail Renfro.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I would say. So we needed it then,
Speaker 1: just like we need it now. We need playmakers in
Speaker 1: our second day. And to answer your question on who
Speaker 1: is in the booth for that game, it looks like
Speaker 1: it would have been Frank Gifford as well as Howard
Speaker 1: Cosell and Don Meredith during the nineteen eighty one season.
Speaker 1: No oja yet, right, noj came along in eighty three.
Speaker 1: He was there eighty three to eighty five. Okay, so
Speaker 1: there you go. Now you know the rest of the story.
Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of Monday night football history.
Speaker 1: Of course, playing on Monday night not quite the same
Speaker 1: as what it once was because Sunday night is considered
Speaker 1: the prime time But but Monday nights still in prime time,
Speaker 1: may not have the A team doing the games anymore.
Speaker 1: But well, let me let me put let me put
Speaker 1: my own cotail again. Let's let's also remember that Cowboys
Speaker 1: played on Monday night Sunday night more than any other
Speaker 1: team back then. It was kind of like the nineties.
Speaker 1: But back in the eighties we were the ones to
Speaker 1: do it. So I was on Monday Night football, Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football a lot. I think I'm pretty sure at
Speaker 1: that point when I retired, I had more interceptions on
Speaker 1: the ABC premier sports programs than anybody else in history
Speaker 1: at that time. I don't know if if that has
Speaker 1: changed because they play so many games, thanks in part
Speaker 1: to Matt Cavanaugh in the New England, and don't forget
Speaker 1: Grogan Groan gave me my second one. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You go. Any Pittsburgh fans out there, take that. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: how much do you think that the Cardinals are looking
Speaker 1: forward to playing a Monday night game against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: this week? Oh? I think that's probably huge for them.
Speaker 1: If you got to remember where that franchise had been
Speaker 1: for so long, h probably didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: play on Monday night football. Now they now they have
Speaker 1: been in the Super Bowl since the count I understand that.
Speaker 1: I understand that, you know, and then only in the
Speaker 1: Conference championship game just a few years ago. So so
Speaker 1: is Tampa Bay? Right? Where are they? Yep? So Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay's hosted it this year? That's oh, that's right. Well,
Speaker 1: in fact, this made me the year Tampa Bay does
Speaker 1: everything they want. Their baseball team is still alive, but
Speaker 1: you know, one win away from playing our World Series
Speaker 1: in Arlington and the host of the Super Bow. Do
Speaker 1: you think their throats are getting a little tight? Now?
Speaker 1: I missed the Sombrero because that's why I want my
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Giants. The Sobrero was gone, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Ever, Tampa is a very has
Speaker 1: a very warm spot in your heart. I was. I
Speaker 1: was there that day, by the way, why you Yes,
Speaker 1: I was covering that game. I thought I saw you
Speaker 1: at that strip? Was bad? That was That was the
Speaker 1: year that there was no There was no week between
Speaker 1: the NFC Title game and the Super Bowl. Yeah, thank god,
Speaker 1: because we would have probably met. We would have met
Speaker 1: so much it would be ridiculous. The k gun offense
Speaker 1: was something that you could never get prepared for him.
Speaker 1: I remember flying home from San Francisco that Monday morning,
Speaker 1: stopped in Dallas, went home, changed suitcases, and got back
Speaker 1: to the airport. I was sitting on the floor writing
Speaker 1: my my second day NFC Title game story and and
Speaker 1: flew to Tampa that that that later that afternoon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a old win day. Were you aware that
Speaker 1: we I remember two games, so I remember this also
Speaker 1: that the sports editor the next day on the board
Speaker 1: kind of trashed my second day stories said I didn't
Speaker 1: have any depth or anything new. I got back and
Speaker 1: I said, do you think I was gonna find out
Speaker 1: something new sitting in the airport in news around the
Speaker 1: National Football League? Yeah? How much? How much do you
Speaker 1: think that the defending Super Bowl champions enhanced their chances
Speaker 1: to play against the Cowboys in Super Bowl fifty five. Bell.
Speaker 1: What a side they needed? What a side? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why Bell went to the Jets in
Speaker 1: the first place. Anyway, They didn't really have any potential.
Speaker 1: What was this contract? I was clearly taken less to
Speaker 1: perform with a better team. You know, That's just the
Speaker 1: way it is. When I picked, when I left the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I didn't go calling, you know, some bum team I
Speaker 1: called the Giants. You know, they'd be like, why would
Speaker 1: I leave that? And then you know, go call some
Speaker 1: crappy team. You call it. You go to a good team.
Speaker 1: When you leave a good team, you go to another
Speaker 1: good team that has potential. The Jets never had that.
Speaker 1: And once again, I don't think they even know how
Speaker 1: to run a team. To sign him and then release
Speaker 1: him with all of that money, I'm sure Spacts can
Speaker 1: make sense of it with his with his computer and
Speaker 1: calculated brain. Up there. You tell me how they made
Speaker 1: sense to sign Levian Bell and then let him go
Speaker 1: already with all of that guarantee money in his pocket.
Speaker 1: Bad bad economics. That's the best I can put with that.
Speaker 1: That's how you got there. Mickey. It's all I got.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a little more. I can look up
Speaker 1: as contracts well understood and a half million how much
Speaker 1: was it? There was seven four years, fifty two and
Speaker 1: a half million guaranteed at signing was twenty seven millions
Speaker 1: signing bonus signing Moses eight million. So I would imagine
Speaker 1: there's some guarantee still left in that they've got some
Speaker 1: dead money go down to the bottom, because it probably
Speaker 1: showed up the dead money, and you know he gets there.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was. He wasn't even healthy all
Speaker 1: of last year, was he? No, he was not. And
Speaker 1: I don't think they liked him after they got him. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. But that's typical giant stuff. That's why
Speaker 1: they haven't been a factor. For my goodness. I can't
Speaker 1: remember what Richard Todd Maybe was the last time West
Speaker 1: Wesley Walker maybe, I don't know. You know McNeil, the
Speaker 1: running back McNeill. I think he was in my class
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty one. Joe Naman. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm already on this. I'm always looking at this website,
Speaker 1: freezing at flushing, So please, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything about flushing meadals. Well, all
Speaker 1: it all works out for Lavion Bell because now he
Speaker 1: lands in Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: What a deal, all right? We continue in more mixed
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Speaker 1: Roof is open on Monday nights. I've heard that good airflow.
Speaker 1: Let's try gotta have that good airflow. I hope that
Speaker 1: doesn't make any of the field goals fade one way
Speaker 1: or another. Well, this is not New Jersey, Okay. On
Speaker 1: that topic of airflow, did you happen to see any
Speaker 1: of the Dodgers Braves game last night at the new
Speaker 1: Ballpark in Arnington Globe black Field because they had the
Speaker 1: roof open and it you know, it was so windy
Speaker 1: here yesterday and it was really pretty brisk in there.
Speaker 1: The wind was blowing in that in that ballpark. I
Speaker 1: actually liked it. They need to have that ballpark open
Speaker 1: as much as possible. I didn't realize the roof was open. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so tell me this. The Rangers were complaining about how
Speaker 1: big and spacious the ballpark was, that they couldn't hit
Speaker 1: home runs. These guys are hitting home runs. They're like
Speaker 1: they're in the little league park, I think. But the
Speaker 1: Rangers obviously, yeah, this is too big and all I
Speaker 1: see his balls popping out of there like it's popcorn
Speaker 1: in a in a bucket. How many, because how many?
Speaker 1: How many did they allow in attention? It's about eleven thousand,
Speaker 1: eleven thousand or so forty something thousand, forty thirty eight
Speaker 1: forty yeah yeah, so, um, all right, Jerry on the
Speaker 1: radio this morning, did you happen to hear him on
Speaker 1: one O five three the fan Mickey, I did anything
Speaker 1: cuts your ear? Yes? He is ensure it with us.
Speaker 1: He is. He is very happy with the investment they
Speaker 1: made on their backup quarterback. He has a lot of confidence,
Speaker 1: uh in the fact that um Andy Dalton is a
Speaker 1: starting quality quarterback who happens to be their backup. And
Speaker 1: I firmly agree with him on that. I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned it maybe early in the week. I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I still think he's the best backup quarterback they've had
Speaker 1: in quite some time. And I mean the guy that
Speaker 1: was designated to be the backup quarterback, because I know
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna say, well, Dak Prescott took over in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: and he was a backup quarterback. He was the third
Speaker 1: string quarterback. He wasn't there to be the backup that year.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore was and he got hurt, and then he
Speaker 1: became the second quarterback and then he took over for Tony.
Speaker 1: But if you look past that, just think of who
Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks were and how they tried to go
Speaker 1: cheap on those guys and either bring in guys who
Speaker 1: were very young or bringing guys who were at the
Speaker 1: end of their career. You know, I brought up in
Speaker 1: my column that I haven't finished writing yet for tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd go back to Vinny test Of Then
Speaker 1: he came in here in two thousand and four to
Speaker 1: be the backup as a seventeen year veteran. At forty
Speaker 1: years old. Andy Dalton's in his tenth season. He's gonna
Speaker 1: turn thirty three, I think in a week or so,
Speaker 1: and I still think he's in the prime of his career.
Speaker 1: And if you keep going back and back and back
Speaker 1: and back, you know, shoot, I went all the way
Speaker 1: back to Wade Wilson to say that might have been
Speaker 1: the last time they had an accomplished, experienced backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: As if you think about it, when Jason Garrett took over,
Speaker 1: he hadn't played that much before he got to play
Speaker 1: a few games in the late nineties. And then go
Speaker 1: from there and look at the guys they Romo was
Speaker 1: the backup and he didn't have even thrown a pass
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Right then they bring in
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson, whose arm was shot. He couldn't throw the
Speaker 1: ball anymore. When he was there behind him, John Kittna
Speaker 1: was okay. Kyle Orton never wanted to be the backup.
Speaker 1: He thought he should have been the starter. So they
Speaker 1: just never had quality backups. Um, you know you have
Speaker 1: to go back to Wade Wilson, Rodney Pete, Steve Burline, Dave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so this guy, I think this guy start starting
Speaker 1: from the bottom there. When I said, bab, we'll feel
Speaker 1: that way back up from there. Well, that's when they
Speaker 1: that's when they decided they needed to make the trade
Speaker 1: for Burline, right, Royd he had to start those those
Speaker 1: last games in the in the eighty or the ninety season,
Speaker 1: when if they had just won one of them, they're
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, and they ended up Troy got
Speaker 1: hurt in Philadelphia. He came in finished that when they lost.
Speaker 1: They went to Atlanta and nobody wanted to play that
Speaker 1: game in the rain, and they got beat. I think
Speaker 1: I think I heard I think I heard that to
Speaker 1: fail you all the way in New York. Right, and
Speaker 1: on top of it, even though they finished seven to nine,
Speaker 1: had the Saints lost that last game of the season, uh,
Speaker 1: they were gonna they were gonna go to the playoffs
Speaker 1: at seven to nine because I think they either beat
Speaker 1: the Saints that year or they had a better record
Speaker 1: against common opponents. But the Rams ended up kicking the
Speaker 1: last second field goal on a Monday night the final
Speaker 1: game of the style about that's a tragedy. It's you
Speaker 1: have to wait that long. They had to be pretty grueling.
Speaker 1: We gotta get to our picks. We got six minutes left.
Speaker 1: We got oh no, six minutes for our picks. I
Speaker 1: could pick a one to click, but I can't pick
Speaker 1: this game. I have no clue. But my pick to
Speaker 1: clicks gonna be Andy Dalton. I have said that he
Speaker 1: is the best backup quarterback since Wade Wilson's I'm sticking
Speaker 1: to it, and I'm saying he's gonna come out and
Speaker 1: play a very very good game. Well, I'm I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna not only am I gonna pick
Speaker 1: the click, I'm gonna shoot your click down. I think
Speaker 1: I think Andy's gonna have a tough game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna find a game plan for
Speaker 1: But I still think he's gonna do do pretty well.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little tougher than whether he had
Speaker 1: last week. I picked the click. What about your scores? Facts?
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say your score. I'm still percolating on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right. In a couple more minutes, Jeff picked the
Speaker 1: click from me, looking at the fact that they don't
Speaker 1: really have a good tight end. Old Line might be
Speaker 1: a little decimated, not a good running game. I talked
Speaker 1: about it already. I think Jaylen Smith is gonna go
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline, just like he did the last game.
Speaker 1: I don't I see offensively, they still have the same
Speaker 1: in thepness that the uh that the Giants had in
Speaker 1: as to the running game and their game plan. Of course,
Speaker 1: Kyler Mary makes everything else different for them. He will
Speaker 1: enhance them, but Jaylen Smith will still have a good game.
Speaker 1: Kyler will make it close. But of course going to
Speaker 1: my Cowboys thirty one to twenty seven, thirty one twenty
Speaker 1: seven cow okay, and I'm gonna go with I'll go
Speaker 1: with DeMarcus Lawrence. You know he clicked last week with
Speaker 1: the strip sack, and just looking at the coaches film
Speaker 1: on DeMarcus Lawrence, he really looks like he's playing. He's
Speaker 1: hitting the stride right now, and you know, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a key those defensive ends containing Murray's staying
Speaker 1: at home and he's he's always been good run defense too,
Speaker 1: so it may not be reflected so much in sacks.
Speaker 1: I do like his matchup when he's up against Kelvin
Speaker 1: Beecham at right tackle, and Humphrey's on the other side
Speaker 1: too if he you know it, lines up at right
Speaker 1: defensive end also, And so Lawrence is my guy, and
Speaker 1: I'll go thirty to twenty Boys win. Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: I've got it. So the two games the Cardinals, you
Speaker 1: got it, Housebacks. They gave up twenty six points to
Speaker 1: Detroit and thirty one points to Carolina. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: split the difference and go Cowboys twenty nine Arizona twenty seven. Ah,
Speaker 1: you come on, you're only two off of me. That's okay,
Speaker 1: twenty nine twenty seven. This is twenty twenty, so the
Speaker 1: scorers are always weird. So I'm des ever ahead of
Speaker 1: game in which they won twenty nine to twenty seven,
Speaker 1: lost twenty Not tough to be to score twenty nine points.
Speaker 1: I've got much failure? How much failure goes with that?
Speaker 1: Is this an extra point? Right kick? An extra field goal?
Speaker 1: Go for two to wait? Will do that? Or get
Speaker 1: a safety? Yeah? You're working real horsebags to get that
Speaker 1: twenty nine? Real hearts. Another thing, Jerry said, we got
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left here. He listed Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: as a guy who maybe one of the top ten
Speaker 1: talented players to have played at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? That's an easy call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's special. When you go back especially if
Speaker 1: you go to high school, right right, that's right, spect
Speaker 1: best high school player you saw, yessigh school player I
Speaker 1: ever saw. I ever saw a lot of high school Now, no,
Speaker 1: I said, well, I didn't see betch Young playing high school. Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't see bench Yon playing high school. That's why
Speaker 1: I I saw. Yeah, I said, I saw videos. I
Speaker 1: was there to see Kyler Murray break my heart. So
Speaker 1: he took my heart. He still has it to this
Speaker 1: day in his back pocket. I don't know, though, when
Speaker 1: you think of all the NFL players who have played
Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium in the last decade. I
Speaker 1: mean there was a Super Bowl that matched up Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers against Ben Roethlisberger. I mean I think he could
Speaker 1: name ten Cowboys. Well maybe not. See he's talking baseball
Speaker 1: already actually played football, not that they were just good
Speaker 1: at it. He was a professional baseball and football. He
Speaker 1: was drafted in the Loo. He was drafted to go
Speaker 1: on potential. Oh yeah, you're telling me that he could
Speaker 1: not have played, don't. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He actually had a baseball contract that said, you know what,
Speaker 1: this football thing is just too much, too enough to
Speaker 1: pass up, do you know how many first round draft
Speaker 1: picks don't make it in baseball. Let's go to football.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? First round cowboys outside that sucked.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna looking at that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna beat. I'm gonna beat all you guys with my
Speaker 1: two guys, Marcus Dupree in high school and Gary Anderson
Speaker 1: in high school. I don't know if you remember. Gary
Speaker 1: Anderson played for San Diego. Yes, this kid not only
Speaker 1: did he play football, he played basketball and he ran track.
Speaker 1: He did all the events and he was so good.
Speaker 1: The coach told him that you don't have to run
Speaker 1: the four hundred until we get to the district meet
Speaker 1: and we need to qualify another guy. He ran the
Speaker 1: four hundred one time and smoked the field. Wow, because
Speaker 1: he didn't like running the four Who wants to run
Speaker 1: the four hundred two twenty back then? I guess it
Speaker 1: was and you long jump And he goes, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: run the four hundred for the team and he wins.
Speaker 1: In Okay, Well that doesn't for mix shots, They tell him,
Speaker 1: last I try. It's the Cowboys against the most talented
Speaker 1: player in the history of high school football in Texas
Speaker 1: according to Everson Walls. Right, Everson's right, Monday night, and
Speaker 1: we'll be here to break it all down on Tuesday
Speaker 1: on Mick Shots and Mickey, I'm sure you're doing something
Speaker 1: on Monday. Two guests ready for it as well? Right,
Speaker 1: I absolutely will, Okay, all right, we'll see you on
Speaker 1: Tuesday on Mick Shots. Enjoy your football weekend and the
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