1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: You can hear us every day from one until four. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: You miss anything, you missed a lot already. We had 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: the Democratic gubernatorial candidates Stephen Klubec on between two and 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: two thirty. I want to hear that make his case 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: for being governor. Moistline is eight seven seven moist staighty 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: six eight seven seven moist steady six. So you used 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: the talk back feature on the iHeartRadio app. We have 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: yard signs spreading all of the palisades. Karen Bass resigned 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: now and my wife and I drove by a big 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: banner that somebody had displayed on their empty, burned out lot. 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: I took a photo of that right from the car, 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: and it's on all the social media sites if you 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: want to take a look at it. That's that's the 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: increasing sentiment in palaks. I think everybody's done talking here, 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody's done debating. 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, they've done asking begging. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: They've already been had their lives destroyed, and now they're 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: in the humiliating They're in the humiliating position of begging. 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Miss Castro Groupie for Permit's all they want is some paperwork, 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: and she won't give it to them so they could 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: rebuild their homes. And we're going to talk with Jeremy 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Padawerk about this. Jeremy has been writing a blog at 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades dot com. He's published series of posts questioning 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Karen Bass's decisions going all the way back to her 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: trip to Ghana on January fourth, three days before the fire. 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Let's get Jeremy Padower on right. Listen. 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: I will go by anything. 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, he just handed me the 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: pronunciation guide and I immediately screwed it up. Jeremy Pidow, Well, 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: you get what you pay for here. Jeremy, it's good 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: to have you on. Tell me what have you been 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: doing online to try to get some people? I guess 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: informed organized? What do you hope to accomplish here? 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: So look here, what I hope to accomplish is to 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: empower the community, because I think one thing that people 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: think about when they think about the Pacific Palisades is 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: they see it as this wealthy place that was gorgeous 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: and probably filled with people that have nothing but money 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: falling out of their pockets, which could not be further 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: from the truth. I mean, there's plenty of people fixed income, 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: older families, multi generational homes that have been passed down, 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: people that use their home as a rental as their 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: primary income. There's a large percentage of really working class 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: folks in the Palisades. And for me, I've had a 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: phenomenal career. I've been very, very fortunate, and I had 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: this domain name I love to write, and I thought, 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: you know what, let's put on a different hat, one 51 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: that I've never won before, a hat of advocacy, so 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: that I can really empower my neighbors to be in 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: a better position. There's a lot going on right now. 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Let's be right in the middle of it and make 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: their lives a little bit better. 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I drove around this morning. There's not a lot going 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: on in terms of reconstruction, and I hear a lot 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: of friends of mine lost their homes, and I'm getting 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: the same story over and over again. What are you 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: lost your home? What are you experiencing there? And what 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 2: are your friends and neighbors experiencing. 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I was joking last night with 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: a few friends and we were talking, and it's helpful 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: to be around people that are going through something similar. 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: I call it the Palisades despair. Okay, that's essentially the 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: feeling that a lot of people have right now. They're 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: feeling like there was a lot taken away, it was 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: done so in incredible ineptitude, with gross negligence, and they're 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: feeling like they don't necessarily have a clear path to 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: mitigation to putting them so in a position that's a 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: little bit better. You look around and you see lot 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: after a lot, and thank goodness, the Army Corps of Engineer, 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: which is an arm of the federal government, came down 74 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: and cleared out these lots. They're primarily empty. 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Now. 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: Of course, when you have an empty lot, it doesn't 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: mean that the land is ready to build upon. There's 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: lots of things that have to happen first. But there 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: has been some movement in that regard now in terms 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: of the state and local level, that's where all the 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: question marks are. 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: Are there city officials or state officials who come to 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: the town or come to a place where you can 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: all listen as to what the game plan is like, 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: what's to be expected over the next few months, and 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: how can anyone measure progress or success? It seems to me. 87 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: Mostly it's silence, it's emptiness. Nobody's saying anything. 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: I think that's a very interesting word that you used. Measure, 89 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: anything that has to do with measuring has been fascinatingly difficult. Okay, 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: there has not been a scenario where I can tell 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: you there's been a measurable element. Now I'll even give 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: you one early on with the Army Corps when they 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: came in to do the cleanup. The singular question that 94 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: we asked over and over again is what's the timeline 95 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: and how much will it cost? And really that was 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 3: something that the state in the local area. They didn't answer. 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: This question was asked tens of times. They didn't answer 98 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: it because they wanted to take credit when it was done, 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: but they had no idea. They couldn't measure it, they 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: couldn't communicate it. There is a lack of measurable There 101 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: is no measure. There is no language that's being used 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: about dollars, about time, on almost anything. So it's fascinating now. 103 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 3: In terms of people coming to visit, I think they do. 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 3: I mean, interestingly, Mayor Bass did come to the fourth 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: of July event that was held for the Palisades in 106 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: Santa Monica. She showed up at like three o'clock and 107 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: she was out of there by three point thirty. She 108 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: grabbed like an ice cream cone or something. But here's 109 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: the reality of that. By at three thirty, maybe one 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: tenth of one percent of the people that were going 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: to show up would have shown up at that time. 112 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: So they're coming. God knows if they show up at 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: a time where they can actually be held to any 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: sort of accountability. 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: So she showed up really early and missed most early. Yeah, okay, 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: got her ice cream cone and got out of there 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: and probably sent out a lot of photos on social 118 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: media a yay. 119 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah and an excellent photo op and that was it 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: and then gone. So yeah, I mean, look, I don't 121 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: think that we trust. I don't think that we have 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: a lot of trust right now. Let's just put it 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: that way. 124 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: The signs that are popping up Karen Bass resigned. Now, 125 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: I would assume a lot of people there their anger 126 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: is really hardened. I mean, they just they just want 127 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: they want somebody else. They want somebody to come in 128 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: and take control, take leadership of this, do something. 129 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: Right. Yes, I think the fair statement is we don't 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: want the people that burned our city down to be 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: the ones that build it up again. It's just not 132 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: something that you want. We I don't want to use 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: the word victim because victim denotes victim mentality. But we 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 3: are certainly the plaintiffs. 135 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: In this case, the defendant being. 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: The grossly negligent operators who failed to protect a city. 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: I want you to think of one thing. I just 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: think about this. What if this fire had started at 139 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: one am instead of ten am? What would have happened then? 140 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: If they were so lacking of good judgment and ability 141 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: to help save a city, what would have happened if 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: this fire had happened nine hours earlier and been in 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: the heat, in the absolute apex right as we were up. 144 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: You can't trust that system, I'm sorry, you just simply cannot. 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: The lack of accountability versus what's being uncovered as they 146 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: go through some of the early discovery as to what 147 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: happened with Laedwt and mayor Baths specifically is astonishing. 148 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: When you actually can you hang on for another segment? 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want to go through that. 151 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: I never want I don't ever want to let go 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: of the original sins committed by by Bass and the 153 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: government in those early days and in the days before 154 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: the fire went crazy. 155 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: We're talking with Jeremy bad I'll get it right. 156 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: And he has a blog at Pacific Palisades dot com 157 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: and uh, he's one of the more vocal residents there 158 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: trying to get anybody to do anything at a city 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: and state government. The only positive movement has come from 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: the federal government when the Army Corps engineers came to 161 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: town to you know, collect the debris and scrape the 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: top level of soil. We'll talk with him some more 163 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: coming up next. 164 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I 165 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 166 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: We continue with Jeremy Petauer. He has a blog at 167 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades dot com. He's lost, he lost his house, 168 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: and he writes about what led to the fire, how 169 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: the city officials were just negligent and derelict and it 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: led to the disaster. And now we're in the phase 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: of nobody seems at city hall to want to do 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: anything to rebuild the Palisades. Let's get Jeremy back on here. 173 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Jeremy talk. Let's go through originally what happened, because it's 174 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: hard to believe I'm sure you must wake up. Everybody 175 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: wakes up in the middle of the night. And I 176 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: can't believe everything that went wrong, everything that was neglect, 177 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: everything that they were incompetent about. And you start with 178 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: Karen Bass going to Ghana and ignoring the fire warnings, 179 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: the reservoir not being filled, the hydrant's not working. Basically 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: there was almost no water supply after a few hours, 181 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 2: the fire department showing up late, not nearly enough firefighters, 182 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: the electricity never being turned off. I mean, looking back, 183 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: it's hard to believe that they whiffed on everything. Oh yeah, 184 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: it's hard to believe. 185 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: And I think there's one piece of information that's been 186 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: so buried and I don't understand why. So before we 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: litigate what occurred, let's talk about Karen Bass for a moment. 188 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: If you don't mind, Okay, go ahead. So Karen Bass 189 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: has deputy mayors, right, and one of her deputy mayors, 190 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: Brian Williams, was the deputy mayor of public safety in 191 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: October of twenty twenty four. The deputy mayor of public safety, 192 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: who's in charge of what wildfires? Police, it's in charge 193 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: of fire, in charge of public safety of all kinds 194 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: emergency response. He called a bomb thread into city Hall. 195 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: Now that's important because he got rated by the FBI 196 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: and he was out by December. The reason why that's 197 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: so critically important is what his oversight was. Number one 198 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: and two the fact that he wasn't replaced until April 199 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five. I don't have an issue with 200 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: a mayor taking a personal trip or a professional trip anywhere. 201 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: I do have an issue with our mayor with an 202 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: entire week's notice of wins coming in ones that noticed 203 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: that she even put out on her own personal Twitter, 204 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: then leaving without ahead of a deputy mayor of public 205 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: safety who's helping direct traffic, and then putting us in 206 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: this extraordinary risk, and then being an absolute not there, 207 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: unavailable during this incredible situation. It blows my mind. I mean, 208 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm in the business world. I can't imagine what it 209 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: would be like to leave in the most critical time 210 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: period without your number two and then not replace that 211 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: person for months. That's my issue, and that's one of 212 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: the critical reasons why I think Maribeth personally is grossly 213 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: negligent in the situation. 214 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: She never even speaks about it. Nobody ever asks her either. 215 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: That's what's strange. Nobody ever says, well, what was with 216 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: this Brian Williams guy? Why didn't you replace him? How 217 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: did you end up with a guy who's calling in 218 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: bomb threats? I mean, I mean, the whole thing is 219 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: so preposterous and absurd, but it seems like six months 220 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: later none of it ever happened. She never addressed it, 221 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: she's never asked about it. I just don't understand. I 222 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: feel like this is a twilight Zone episode. 223 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: It is a twilight Zone episode, and it's so bizarre 224 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: because why a deputy mayor of public safety would call 225 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: it an anti Israel bomb threat into city Hall then 226 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: subsequently get rated by the FBI. Then by the way, 227 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: he's he was found, he pleaded guilty, he's being he's 228 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: going to receive his approximately ten year jail sentence in October. 229 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: Where is this? Why hasn't this covered? That's one of 230 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: the things I covered on precisipalis Ades dot com. I 231 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: am blown away at the lack of media attention on 232 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: this critical point that links Karen Bass to what we 233 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: see is a disaster, and I call it an unnatural disaster. 234 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: There is nothing natural about this except for the wins 235 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: which were clocked at between sixteen and thirty miles an hour, 236 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: and it's wins that we had between ten and four 237 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: pm when those plays were flying at a critical time. 238 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: By the way, the Santa Inez being empty, that the 239 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: reservoir being empty, that's ninety seven point five percent of 240 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: the water available to the Palisades when that was empty 241 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: because of a broken cover right, which would have cost 242 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars to fix over a year. They 243 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: fumbled that ball. They had to send those airplanes to Malibu. 244 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: We lost seven hours trying to put out that fire 245 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: in the air, seven hours. Now the wind's picked up 246 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: later that night, but there's no excuse, and pointing to 247 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: this being a natural disaster is diabolical in my opinion. 248 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: What do you think is going on? 249 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: People are starting to invest in some wild, dark conspiracy theories, 250 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: and it's hard to understand. 251 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to. 252 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: Say they're wrong to when their minds wander in that direction, 253 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: because this is almost impossible to believe that it happened, 254 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: and then secondly that there's been no accountability since then. 255 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: That's right, I mean, so, first of all, I would 256 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: say it is surreal, It is incredibly unusual, and it 257 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: requires a series of really bad decisions or lack of 258 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: decisions ahead of time. This is not a scenario where 259 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: it's like a commercial airliner when they say, you know, 260 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: God forbid two or three things have to go bad consecutively. 261 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: This is a scenario where like six things have to 262 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: go bad. And that's the reason why I'll bet you 263 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: if we stayed on the phone for an hour, you 264 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: couldn't name another time in the last one hundred and 265 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: twenty five years that a major city in the world 266 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: burned down as a result of something that wasn't a 267 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: natural disaster. I think we could probably sit here all day, 268 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: maybe bombings and stuff like that, But my god, that's war. 269 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: This is not I don't subscribe to. This was done 270 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: purposefully to destroy the piggybank of Los Angeles. Because, by 271 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: the way, while I said there are plenty of hard 272 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: working people in the Palisades that were underinsured or uninsured, 273 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: and they're everyday people and they don't have the money 274 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: to build back, there are certainly a lot of people 275 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: with money, and the propensity of the average Palisades person 276 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: is to over index in terms of tax payments by 277 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: about ten times. I think we're about a half a 278 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: percent of the population in about six percent of the proceeds, 279 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: although there's no way to know because they never share 280 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: transparently any of this information. You used to have to 281 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: do your own digging. I don't think that they would 282 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: destroy their piggybank on purpose, but they certainly mismanaged it terribly. 283 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: What do you I still can't get over the reservoir. 284 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: I had not heard that statistic that it's ninety seven 285 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: percent of usable water in the Palisades, how and that 286 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: thing was empty for a year when the fire happened. 287 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: Did the public know this? 288 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: I yes, because you could look, you know, in various 289 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: parts of the palaceads. You could, depending on what house 290 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: you're in, you can look out the window and se 291 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: an empty reservoir. So yeah, I mean it was obvious. 292 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: There were plenty of questions asked. I will tell you 293 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: that the chief, our fire chief had plenty of warnings 294 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: to bass and made plenty of verbal warnings and written warnings, 295 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: and then you can find them about the reservoir. Yeah, yeah, definitely, 296 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: Well about the reservoir or the lack the lack of preparedness, 297 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: I think is exactly what the warnings were, but in 298 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: my opinion, come on, that reservoir was built fifty plus 299 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: years ago by a fire chief at the time that said, 300 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: this reservoir is being built because there is too much 301 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: fire risk in the palace heads or in this general area. 302 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: So that's the reason why it existed in the first place. 303 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, one more quick, I only got about thirty seconds. Yeah. 304 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: The cause of the fire, there's no official cause yet. 305 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: That's hard to get. 306 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: Competence, in aptitude, gross negligence. I'll give you a cause. 307 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: It's when unpreparedness meets bad decision making equals fire. I mean, 308 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: we could get into absolute certainty. But yeah, this fire 309 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: probably started for a myriad of reasons, but it perpetuated 310 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: because of bad, bad, bad management. 311 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: All right, Jeremy, thanks for coming on. 312 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: Let's talk again, okay, because they're not going to get 313 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: any better at their jobs. Jeremy Padouer, and he is 314 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: a resident of Palisades, lost his home, writes a blog 315 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: about all the aftermath of the fire at Pacific Palisades 316 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: dot com. 317 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 318 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: six forty. 319 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us. We just had Jeffrey Padouer 320 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: on He is a businessman, except you, quite an accomplished businessman. 321 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to get into it. 322 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: But he's a toy industry executive and Entrepreneur's invented a 323 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: lot of toys, and he lives in you know, he 324 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: lived in Pacific Palisades until. 325 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Our city government helped burn it down. 326 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: And he's been writing on a blog Pacific Palisades dot com. 327 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: And quite interesting to hear his perspective. When we went 328 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: through the list of all the terrible preparation mistakes, it's actually, 329 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: actually it's not even a mistake. They didn't do any 330 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: preparation in so many ways. There was no preparation starting 331 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: with that reservoir, and then all the bad decisions and 332 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: reacting to the fire. It's just astonishing. It really is overwhelming. 333 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: He writes about it all the time. So you want 334 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: to listen to that on the podcast at John Cobalt 335 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: Show on demand. And as I was talking to him, 336 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 2: I was thinking, my god, if you listen to this 337 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: conversation and you just listened to all the things that 338 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: the city government did badly, Karen Bass put everything at 339 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: her doorstep, all the things they did badly, and yet 340 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I had not seen the kind of intensive, investigatory media 341 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: coverage that would normally accompany this. There's no way she 342 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: should still be in office. She should have been driven 343 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: out of office. There should have been an opposition party. 344 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: There should have been like, I mean, look what they 345 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: try to do to Trump every day. Why is why 346 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: do they not pile on Karen Bass at the El 347 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: Segundo Times and all the television stations. 348 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard early on. I talked to a reporter. 349 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: It's like, well, she's a black woman, she gets that 350 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: special protection. That's what the reporter said, somebody in the 351 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: business on the inside. And I'm thinking, well, that's obviously 352 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: absurd and wrong. You get judged on your ability, and 353 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: you know that goes both ways. You don't get prejudged 354 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: based on your your gender and your race, but you 355 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: don't not get judged. It's not supposed to be special 356 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: protection for you. Because I am astounded at the lack 357 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: of media coverage, the criticism is glancing, The criticism is 358 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: really not what you'd expect. After I mean, a lot 359 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: of people died, for God's sakes, they died in addition 360 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: to the massive damage, and then you think if she 361 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: felt bad at all, you'd have the most incredible rebuild 362 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: operation going that you could see and hear and touch 363 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: every day. And like I said, it was in was 364 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: a palisades this morning. Nothing's going on. There's always this 365 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: disconnect between real life and the media. I mean, even 366 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: when she went on Network TV on the not that 367 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: Network TV is much anymore, but on Sunday, she went 368 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: on two of those Sunday morning shows and they kind 369 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: of treated her with kid gloves. Kind of she did, 370 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: she was treated with kid gloves. Slightest bit of pushback. 371 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: And then I saw this story and it's about an 372 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: entirely different topic, but it's the same idea. What the 373 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: media covers and then what goes on in real life. 374 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: Remember when that military helicopter and the commercial passenger plane 375 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 2: collided in Washington, d C. Back in January, and it 376 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: was the first time that we had a deadly commercial 377 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: aviation accident in sixteen years. And at the same time, 378 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and the Doge cuts were happening, and then 379 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: we found out like Newark's air traffic control was severely 380 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: understaffed and the equipment was failing, and so there was 381 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: a swarm of media coverage which warning people not to 382 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: fly and insisting that a lot of people who are 383 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 2: not flying anymore. And Dominic Pino at the National Review 384 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: put together a list of headlines. I'm going to quickly 385 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: read them. These are all on major newspapers or major 386 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: online magazines. You'd recognize all the names. Fear of flying 387 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: is different now. People worry about plane malfunctions, but the 388 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 2: systems directing flight can be more dangerous. What to do 389 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: if you're anxious about flying right now? Associated Press some 390 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: of the four hundred jobs that were cut at the 391 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: FAA helped support air safety. New Republic Trump's firing spree 392 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: at the FAA was even more terrible than he admitted. 393 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: Business Insider Americans are afraid to fly after recent crashes. 394 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: Social media and dose aren't helping. Slate says why air 395 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: travel is getting dangerous Forbes, Aviation safety at risk amid 396 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: doze cuts and shut down fears. Newsweek Americans are canceling 397 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: flights over safety concerns, Axios, air traffic controllers worried about 398 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: safety staffing, and more. New York Post fear of flying 399 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: is hurting ticket sales after multiple plane crashes. Dealt to 400 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: American Airlines, PBS how doses cutbacks at the FAA could 401 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: affect aviation and safety. NBC air traffic control centers struggle 402 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: with understaffing, and it goes on and on. Associated press 403 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: worries about flying seem to be taking off. Here's out 404 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: of cope with in flight anxiety, and Dominic Pino points 405 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: out that, well, all those stories there's wrong. People aren't 406 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: afraid to fly at all. People don't think it's dangerous 407 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: to fly or scary to fly. 408 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: They don't. 409 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: June twenty second was the busiest day for commercial air 410 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: travel in US history, the busiest day in history. TSA 411 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: screened three point one million passengers on June twenty second. 412 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: July sixth was the second highest day, July twentieth was 413 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: the third highest, both over three million, and he wrote, well, 414 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: if it's really getting so much more dangerous to fly, 415 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: fewer people would be doing it. It seems like the 416 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: freak out over safety under Trump has been confined to 417 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: the media while the all Americans flock to the airports 418 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: in record numbers. And isn't this always the way? There's 419 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: these media hysterias and then suddenly they die down and 420 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: disappear and then when you look back, and hardly anybody 421 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: looks back, you never see a story like this. Yeah, 422 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: all those crazy headlines was that real? 423 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Was that true? 424 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: No? 425 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: I mean I've got about almost twenty of them here. No, 426 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: people weren't afraid. I mean, there's always people afraid, and 427 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: you know they'll be the loudest. But in general, no, 428 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: three million people boarding planes each day, and you know 429 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: this when you go to the airport, especially at Lax, 430 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: it's extremely crowded. Everything is backed up, There's long lines 431 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: all over the place. You can't even get a coffee 432 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: or a donut. There's a long line. Parking lots are jammed, 433 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: security lines. I mean, I just there's so much nonsense 434 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: being fed to us every day. Sometimes it's a political agenda, 435 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just to scare you. Everything is it's 436 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: when everything switched to the Internet, and it was about 437 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: just getting hits immediate emotional reactions, and much of its nonsense. 438 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: I start every morning, probably look at thirty websites just 439 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: to start, and I can't tell you how much nonsense 440 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: and garbage there is, how much stuff I skip. I 441 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: just refuse to read anymore because I can tell I 442 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: can tell now when it's hyped up, slanted, biased, nonsense. 443 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: Lies, scared. 444 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 2: A lot of It's very tempting to want to discuss 445 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: here on the radio, but I know it's like, no, 446 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: that's not real life. That's not what people are really 447 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: concerned about, thinking about, worried about. 448 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Not easy. 449 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: A weird time when we come back, the gas prices 450 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: have gone down. We always talk about them going up 451 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: and up, and uh, this is not a California thing 452 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: that they're going down. It's it's a nationwide thing. But 453 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: all of the factors that is going to that are 454 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: gonna cause California prices to go way up. They're still 455 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: in place. That's still very likely to happen. And we'll 456 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: tell you why prices here and everywhere else have briefly 457 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: gone down. And it's got nothing to do with California policies. 458 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: That's next. Deborah Mark is what falling off her chair? 459 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: No, I'm not, don't exaggerate. Well, you duck down and disappeared, 460 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: you know what. 461 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: I was looking at the tvcause I see Nathan Hafkman on, 462 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 3: so I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. 463 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: So I had to go up. Well, what is he doing? 464 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: Is he reading recipes. I mean, no sel any charge 465 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: has been filed in the East Hollywood crash. Oh all right, 466 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: So I thought maybe it was not like major things. 467 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: We had dunk down and I thought, well, maybe she 468 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: fell asleep. It wasn't a Coldplay concert, wasn't there's nobody 469 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: in the room with her. 470 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: The Well, there you go. Remember you're on camera at 471 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: all times. Yeah, I know that. 472 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 473 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: They've noticed that the gas prices have have dropped, and 474 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: the average in California is down to four forty nine 475 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: a gallon, although I'm paying four to twenty nine in 476 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: my neighborhood, and just a few weeks ago it was 477 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: four eighty nine, So that was a big drop to 478 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: witness sixty cents in a matter of a couple of weeks. 479 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: And gas prices are lower all across the country. So, 480 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: right up front, it's got nothing to do with the 481 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: California government. It's not that they're suddenly doing anything right. 482 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: It's not like they're artificially lowering the prices, because we're 483 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: going to have those big increases coming later sometime this year. 484 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: Between the low carbon fuel standard, the two big oil 485 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: refineries closing down, possibly our main oil pipeline being shut down. 486 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: You know, the predictions is the gas is going to 487 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: go over six bucks, maybe over eight bucks, maybe to 488 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: ten bucks. That's all still in the mix. But right 489 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 2: now what's happening is a series of factors. Outside of California, 490 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: the national average is three fourteen. So if we're at 491 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: four forty nine, we're still paying a dollar and thirty 492 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: five cents higher than any where else in the country. 493 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: Mississ twenty one states are under three bucks, forty three states, 494 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: forty four states are under three forty, and you got 495 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: states like Mississippi at two seventy one. So the proportions 496 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: are still the same. Gas prices are dropping for everyone, 497 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: and californiaglobe dot com they got a story about this 498 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: week the price of gas in California still was forty 499 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: two percent higher than the national average, Still forty percent 500 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: higher than Arizona, forty six percent higher than Florida, sixty 501 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: three percent higher than Texas. How about that we're paying 502 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: sixty three percent more for gasoline. We have the highest 503 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: gas prices in the nation. But do you know when 504 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: it comes to how much petroleum we have stored underground. 505 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: We are. 506 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: Number seven in the United States, and yet we're importing 507 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: our gas from Iraq, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Gula, Guyana. And 508 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: if the price is going down, it's because of the following. 509 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: There is a worldwide drop in global crude oil prices 510 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: with the Trump administration their new energy policies. US oil 511 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: production is increasing. Number three, there's a growing world oil 512 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: supply that's lowering the price. Number four is Chinese oil 513 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: consumption has plateaued, flattened out. Number five. Having Iran their 514 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: nuclear program get bombed so effectively with our missiles, They're 515 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: anticipating more stability in the Middle East. All this leads 516 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 2: to lower oil prices. What happens in the Middle at 517 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: least China just the way. So that's why the price 518 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: is lower. The price is lower across the country, but 519 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: all the California centric factors they're still in place. US 520 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: oil production has reached it is expected to hit record 521 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: highs for twenty twenty five. Crude oil prices have fallen 522 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: seventeen percent since Trump took office. See we don't know 523 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: this here because our oil price, our gas prices are 524 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: so high. We don't know the effect that these Trump 525 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: policies have had. 526 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Along with these. 527 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: Issues that Trump or anyone else has no control over 528 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: things that are happening in foreign countries. OPEK is increasing 529 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: oil production by thirty four percent, and there's a reversal 530 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: obviously in California of tailpipe emission standards, fuel standards, the 531 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 2: waiver to set our own emission stands, that electric vehicle 532 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: mandate has been blocked, and some Supreme Court rulings. Bottom 533 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: line is everything's in place for California prices to still 534 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: shoot up tremendously, and if nothing changes, those prices will 535 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: go up. 536 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: They have to. It's the law of economics, right. 537 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: If we lose two oil refineries, we lose twenty percent 538 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: of our gasoline, So the price has to go up. 539 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: If they turn off the pipeline and we've got to 540 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: import more oil from Saudi Arabia, gas to be refined 541 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: in South Korea from Saudi Arabia, that's going to drive 542 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: the price up. The low carbon fuel standard is going 543 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: to drive the price up. So I don't want anybody 544 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: to think that all that bad stuff isn't going to happen. 545 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: It's still will happen unless the policies are reversed. It's 546 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: just that the overall national and world climate has led 547 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: to lower gas prices, which may look surprising considering all 548 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 2: the bad news you've heard. All right, we've got Conway 549 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: coming up next. Don't forget the podcast to be posted 550 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: shortly after four o'clock. You can follow us at John 551 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: Cobelt Radio. We need less than one hundred and fifty 552 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: followers to hit thirty. 553 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: Thousand, and let's seat it on twenty. 554 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: Now, what's that less than one hundred and twenty, less 555 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: than one hundred and twenty. Well, let's get to it. 556 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: Let's get this done. Should get this done immediately? One 557 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty people, and then tomorrow we're at thirty thousand, 558 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: and do I. 559 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Win a prize? No? 560 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: No, just the next girl's thirty five. We never stopped 561 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: chasing the rabbit, do we? All right, Michael Krazer is 562 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: the news, and then Conway's coming up and he's live 563 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 564 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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