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Speaker 1: What possibilities are out there? It's just things we don't

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Speaker 1: know right now, and it's really interesting and very difficult

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Speaker 1: to determine who's got the lead right now, Who's who's

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Speaker 1: the front runner. Is it a possibility Vance Joseph is

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Speaker 1: still in the mix in terms of being a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: If Mike Kafka is going to be your head coach,

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Speaker 1: is that a possibility? You know, either one Anaumo and

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Speaker 1: him work together in Miami exactly, So you're you're right

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Speaker 1: about that, So I mean, you know, yeah, So that

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Speaker 1: to me is what is interesting about this. Who do

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Speaker 1: you trust? And if you're sitting in that room and

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Speaker 1: you're asking the questions, direct pointed questions to these guys,

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Speaker 1: their answers could be the difference in this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to an answer from Buddha Baker this week.

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Speaker 1: He was on with k Adams up in Adams and

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Speaker 1: Dave respond to this what Buddhas said when he was

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Speaker 1: asked what he wants in a head coach, I like, real,

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Speaker 1: you know, just be real, you know whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: Just be yourself. Don't be anything else, don't be anything different.

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Speaker 1: You don't got to try to put any type of

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Speaker 1: front with anybody. Just be real. Be who you are,

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Speaker 1: whether that's a you know, a loud mouth or whether

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Speaker 1: that's a quiet, more you know, humble ish type of person.

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Speaker 1: So just be whoever you are, and you know we'll

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Speaker 1: go from there. I mean, if you if you want

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Speaker 1: to install accountability, that's the way BA used to do it,

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Speaker 1: for example, right, he kept it all the way real. WELLOK, guys,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to have somebody that. Yeah, players

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Speaker 1: are very smart. They can see through somebody that's frauds on, right,

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Speaker 1: they can see through that. So you want to get

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Speaker 1: somebody who whatever comes out of his mouth mouth first

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Speaker 1: that first team meeting. Whenever he's hired. You're hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot of the same things in training camp. You know,

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Speaker 1: you want somebody that that first impression sticks with you

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Speaker 1: and you say, Okay, this is this is somebody that hey,

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Speaker 1: he's real. I mean, I mean, I love everything he

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Speaker 1: has to say, but I like the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: a straight shooter because he getting players see through that.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately, look, with Kyler Murray's injury situation, guys and

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Speaker 1: not knowing the time frame, this is a higher whoever

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Speaker 1: it ends up being that you're making this move. And

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Speaker 1: again it's similar to when the Cardinals hired Cliff. You're

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Speaker 1: making this move for years to come. It's not just

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Speaker 1: about this year. Even though I do think the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are in terms of overall personnel, they do have a

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Speaker 1: lot of players, they had a lot of holes, but

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Speaker 1: they also have a lot of players that are guys

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Speaker 1: that are Pro Bowl level, and Boot obviously is one

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Speaker 1: of them, multiple Pro Bowls already under his belt. You've

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Speaker 1: got to find somebody who you think can not only

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Speaker 1: meet these guys and reach these guys now, but that

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Speaker 1: it's sustainable. So yeah, I think someone that's real and

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Speaker 1: that you respect and appreciate that that's got to stay.

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Speaker 1: It can't wane when things get tough. If you get

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Speaker 1: off to a poor start, if this is a year

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Speaker 1: where you're trying to just get back to where you

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Speaker 1: were a couple of years ago when you had all

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Speaker 1: your weapons and Kyler was one hundred percent, because that

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Speaker 1: then they take some time, guys, not that Colt can't

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Speaker 1: go in there. The cold McCloy is your starter Week one.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it. Cool can win games for you. You

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Speaker 1: can still be competitive. And that's why, again, I think

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Speaker 1: it's important to have somebody that that first impression training

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Speaker 1: camp starts, and then when the season starts, the voice,

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Speaker 1: the message is the same, and it's a message that

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Speaker 1: you respect. And that's a great segue because if you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the poor start last year and you have

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Speaker 1: to wonder if training camp was tough enough. Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: alluded to as much recently and on Pro Football Talk,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was a guest this week, and here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say about cards camp. In training camp,

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Speaker 1: you could tell that maybe at times it's a little relaxed.

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Speaker 1: It was a little too relax you know, training camp

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Speaker 1: that's when you really find out a lot about your team,

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Speaker 1: and at times I felt like a lot of that

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Speaker 1: carried over into the season, you know, with people being

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Speaker 1: maybe two relaxed. Interesting. It's something we've talked about and

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Speaker 1: surmised about it, you know what. You know, the positive

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Speaker 1: there is that the players know it. The players, the

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Speaker 1: players are citing it, and so when it's from the

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Speaker 1: inside out Wolf, that makes me a little more bullish

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Speaker 1: on enacting some serious change again once Paul, I've talked

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Speaker 1: about it for a long time, but I am an

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Speaker 1: old school guy, and I'm no longer apologizing for being

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Speaker 1: an old school guy. You gotta go out and you

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Speaker 1: got to practice the game of football hard. There's an

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Speaker 1: old saying you play like you practice, and you practice

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Speaker 1: like you play. Now, I realize you can't go full go.

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Speaker 1: I understand there's only so many padded practices you can

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Speaker 1: have throughout a year in the National Football League, talking

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Speaker 1: about the entire season, So you've got to be mindful

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Speaker 1: of all of this, of course, But I think you

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Speaker 1: can still go at a good tempo with nothing but

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Speaker 1: shells on. And when I say shells, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the foamy pads where you really don't have any pads on.

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Speaker 1: You can still get a lot of work done. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if you need walkthroughs. Deebo Samuel is

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Speaker 1: talking this week about how hard the forty nine ers practice,

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Speaker 1: for example, right, and then you got to figure out

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Speaker 1: a whey to stay healthy. I mean you look at

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Speaker 1: the two offensive lines that are in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs missed two games by a starter all year.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles missed three games by a starter all year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, in to your point earlier, Dave, if

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Speaker 1: you can stay healthy and you can instill maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of this discipline and what have you, how

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Speaker 1: far away do you think the roster is? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how did the Giants go from four wins to eleven

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Speaker 1: wins in a playoff victory with Daniel Jones? If you

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Speaker 1: get this head coach higher, right, five of the ten

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Speaker 1: teams this season they had a new head coach made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, it's not out of the rebel

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Speaker 1: possibility because eighteen months ago you were ten and two. Right,

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Speaker 1: it is the NFL, and you have an whole world

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Speaker 1: type talent. And say Markley, he was in a contract

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Speaker 1: year and was healthy and was unbelievable, and Daniels don't

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Speaker 1: play great, and he found the right system for him

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Speaker 1: and had the right coaching staff for him. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Isaiah simmons comments because

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Speaker 1: I think this is something to keep in mind too.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about flipping things and going from

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Speaker 1: being a non playoff team to being a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: You know, Isaiah Simon has to play better. I understand

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Speaker 1: what he's saying about. You know, Camp was, in his opinion,

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Speaker 1: you know, wasn't competitive enough and should he have played

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, Yeah, he should have. He was not ready,

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Speaker 1: He was not in a position where the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: should have sat him, and he needed reps. He still

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Speaker 1: needs reps, and they need to find the right coaches

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Speaker 1: to put him in a situation where he can succeed.

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Speaker 1: Make a determination on what you think he is. Put

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Speaker 1: him there, don't make the same mistake with him that

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Speaker 1: you made with a son Reddick. Put him there. But

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Speaker 1: he also has to play better. You know. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: easy for players to say, well, Camp was like this,

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Speaker 1: and yeah we got off to bed start and injuries.

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Speaker 1: But you know, your first Trump pick, you know, this

563
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Speaker 1: is kind of make it or break a year for him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not counting him out because I think you know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about Hassan Reddick being a model of somebody

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Speaker 1: that was a first round pick because he was a

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Speaker 1: tremendous athlete, will find a way to give him confidence,

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Speaker 1: put him in a place where he can succeed, so

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Speaker 1: that he gets confident. So then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the guys a game wrecker and a game changer. You

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Speaker 1: drafted him for that reason. So some of that's on

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Speaker 1: him and some of the time the staff to find

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Speaker 1: the best way to use him, and not just him,

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Speaker 1: but plenty of other guys. You know, Zavian Collins, what's

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Speaker 1: the next step for him? Yea. And you look at

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Speaker 1: these teams that go from being, you know, out of

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Speaker 1: the postseason to being real competitors. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. The talent didn't change much. So obviously the

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Speaker 1: coach has found a way to get the most out

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Speaker 1: of him. But also these guys they determined that hey,

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Speaker 1: this is this is it for me. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: got a chance to make a lot of money, I've

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Speaker 1: got a chance to get that second contract. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: step up and I'm going to produce in a way

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Speaker 1: that I haven't before. And if Advisa Simmons does that,

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Speaker 1: there's some other guys in this roster. If they do that,

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Speaker 1: then the Cardinals have a chance to be a much

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Speaker 1: better team in twenty twenty three. And since we're talking

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Speaker 1: about players right here, let me bring back Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: as well. When Buddha Baker was talking about the coaches,

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Speaker 1: he's got to be real. Remember he said that he's

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Speaker 1: got to be real. You know, whether that's screaming or

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Speaker 1: not screaming, whatever it may be, He's got to be himself.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be real. The thing I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: most when we talk about players and you think of

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, he never needed another human being to get

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Speaker 1: him ready to play in an NFL game. That you

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Speaker 1: need more guys like Buddha Baker. Monti Asenford knows that

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Speaker 1: you need more guys that are built like Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: is mentally where you don't need somebody to scream at you.

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Speaker 1: You don't depend on somebody to get you ready for

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Speaker 1: a game. You get yourself ready for the game as

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Speaker 1: a pro because this is how you support your family.

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Speaker 1: For me, that's what they can do better everybody involved,

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Speaker 1: and that is getting more Buddha Baker type guys in

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Speaker 1: that locker room and who did Manias and ford Hire

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Speaker 1: as his assistant GM Dave sears from Detroit and they

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Speaker 1: spend the last two years looking for those sorts of

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Speaker 1: dudes that exact sort of player that mindset. Episode fifty

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Speaker 1: five at the Dave Pash Podcast featuring actor and comedian

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Speaker 1: Frank Caliendo, available now at your preferred podcast provider via

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Pash pod. If you want info, tam and

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Speaker 1: lead into the super Bowl, you want Frank Caliendo, that

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Speaker 1: is for sure, Dave, we appreciate it. You're in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans when you see Zion Williamson, tell them that the

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Speaker 1: Suns are waiting to auston from the playoffs again this

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Speaker 1: time with Kade. Okay, so go ahead, talk some trash

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Speaker 1: and also, David, have some gumbo for me, praise a

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Speaker 1: lot of gumbo's. Wolf. Yeah, I know that Wolf. This

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Speaker 1: is probably your favorite place on earth. And from the food,

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Speaker 1: we'll try to eat well for you. Okay, have to fat.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave. Dave Fash Voice of the Cardinals. We

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Speaker 1: continue with a big red rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Santan four. The Eagles have been

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Speaker 1: the NFC's best team all season long. Zeros on the

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Speaker 1: Clock and Evil carryvan momentum with big wins in the

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Speaker 1: Divisional round against the Giants, and here in the Championship

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Speaker 1: ROMI in San Francisco all the way to Arizona and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven. The Philadelphia Eagles are going to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again, him pinching thirty one a seven

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Speaker 1: win over San Francisco. It is over. The Chanson City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl for the third

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Speaker 1: time in four years. The Chiefs win the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: and keep revenge against the Bengals twenty Freedom twenty the

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Speaker 1: final and arrowhead. It'll be the Chiefs and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty seven. And that's how we got here.

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Speaker 1: In the AC the final calls courtesy of Westwood one

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Speaker 1: I an Eagle. They're preceded by Kevin Harland. Bowl teams

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Speaker 1: have scored five hundred forty six points this season Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time two number one seeds have squared

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Speaker 1: off in a Super Bowl since the twenty seventeen season,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and Patriots. And because you look like you

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Speaker 1: want a trivia question, here you go. You're ready, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Paul kelvc ron Wolfie is a big red

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Speaker 1: ration presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. The most watched

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Speaker 1: super Bowl ever was I have no idea both in

647
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Speaker 1: terms of TV viewers. Yes, stay local. How about Super

648
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Speaker 1: Bowl forty nine? The last time it was here in

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Speaker 1: Arizonts indeed, so that was Arizona. Of course, Patriots Seahawks

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Speaker 1: went down to the final play, went down to the

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Speaker 1: goal line, as we know, right, Malcolm Butler. Yes, yes,

652
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Speaker 1: one hundred fifteen plus million viewers. Oh my goodness. And

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Speaker 1: they're saying with a star power in this game. If

654
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Speaker 1: it is a close game, it definitely has the potential

655
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Speaker 1: to eclipse the last time it was in Arizona and

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Speaker 1: the most watched super Bowl ever. What do you think

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Speaker 1: how closely contested will this game be? Polly? That's a

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Speaker 1: great question, it really is. I'm hoping for this right here,

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Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. This is a contested super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. I don't care who wins, Polly,

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Speaker 1: I really don't going into the fourth quarter. I want

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Speaker 1: to see a contest. I want to see a game

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Speaker 1: that is up for grabs and to me. When you

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Speaker 1: talk about this, the dynamics of this game, where do

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Speaker 1: you begin. You begin with the fact the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are the number one pass offense in the National

667
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Speaker 1: Football League and the Philadelphia Eagles are the number one

668
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Speaker 1: pass defense in the National Football League. Polly, are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? That's just stunning to me. Number one in

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Speaker 1: yards per game and number one in yards per play,

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Speaker 1: both of these teams number one. You put the two together,

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Speaker 1: there's just no denying it whatsoever. And not only that too.

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Speaker 1: It comes down to the Philadelphia Eagles in their pass

674
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Speaker 1: rush number one in sacks per attempt. We know it.

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Speaker 1: Here it comes Hassan Reddick, Here it comes Brandon Graham.

676
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Speaker 1: Here comes the Philadelphia Eagles and their pass rush coming

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Speaker 1: after you, Pat Mahomes. Do the Kansas City Chiefs have

678
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Speaker 1: the kind of offense they need to combat this because

679
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Speaker 1: that's how the Eagles drain it out of a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why there are also number

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Speaker 1: six in interception ratio in the National Football League the

682
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Speaker 1: Eagles defense, because the pressure they can get on a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is that going to be Pat Mahomes? And what about

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room for the Kansas City Chiefs. It's

685
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Speaker 1: performed very very well all season long, So this to

686
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Speaker 1: me is going to be the premier matchup of the game.

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Speaker 1: So someone brought it up another trivia question. What's the

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Speaker 1: record for most sacks and a Super Bowl by a team?

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Speaker 1: The answer is seven, and a lot of Eagles fans

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Speaker 1: are talking about that because of an Eagles defense that

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Speaker 1: has seventy eight sacks including playoff games this year, seventy

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, and that has been topped only

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Speaker 1: twice in the modern era of football, both by those

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Speaker 1: Bears teams in eighty four and eighty five they had

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Speaker 1: eighty two and eighty and those two teams, those Bears teams.

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Speaker 1: So think about that. This Eagles pass rush is historically good.

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Speaker 1: And then think about the last time Patrick Mahomes lost

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. It was against the Buccaneers and it

699
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: was against Todd Bowles, and what exactly did they do.

700
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: They sacked him three times and they hit and harassed

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Speaker 1: him about thirty times in that game. So, just like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady would lose his Super Bowls, how do you

703
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Speaker 1: go ahead and defeat Patrick Mahomes? Will you get to

704
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Speaker 1: the quarterback? And especially if he has that ball ankle.

705
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Now he's saying all the right things. We'll see, here's

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Speaker 1: the rub on this wolf. If you get into some

707
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Speaker 1: of the numbers and the analytics, and I'll just get

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Speaker 1: into this a little bit. Mahomes is generated more than

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Speaker 1: twice as much passing EPA, which is expected points against

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Speaker 1: right against the Blitz as any other quarterback since he

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Speaker 1: took over as a starter in twenty eighteen. In other words,

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Speaker 1: he's been twice as effective as any other quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL against the Blitz. Wow. Yeah, that is just good.

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Speaker 1: That's knowing what to do. That's knowing where you're going

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Speaker 1: with a ball that's pre snap read right there by

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Speaker 1: a quarterback as well. And then Polly, I think you

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Speaker 1: got to flip it over. And you look at the

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Speaker 1: Eagles and their offense, their rush offense against the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs in that rush defense. These are the dynamics

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Speaker 1: of the game, man, that just fascinate me. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a team and Eagles team that is

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Speaker 1: number one in terms of rushing yards per game in

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Speaker 1: the postseason right now, there were number five. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, all season long. They run the ball,

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Speaker 1: they've got the best offensive line in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League with Jason Kelsey as their center, and they run

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Speaker 1: the ball and they do it better than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs rush defense has gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: better than what we historically have seen in the Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes era, but it's still to me they're Achilles heel

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Speaker 1: and I wonder how much of that is going to

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Speaker 1: be a true statement when they square off because their

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Speaker 1: number thirty one in the red zone as well. All

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Speaker 1: season long, the Chiefs defense has not been good at

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Speaker 1: stopping other teams once they got into their red zone,

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Speaker 1: they're plus twenty in they have not been good number

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Speaker 1: thirty one. Why is that Because they've struggled to stop

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Speaker 1: the run from time to time, and that is what

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Speaker 1: the Eagles do better than anyone else in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So that offensive line, and I agree, if you're to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and you put the tail of the tape

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Speaker 1: and these two teams, I think where the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: definitely decisively better is along the offensive line when the

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey and Lane Johnson, I mean just that offensive

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Speaker 1: line and it's good. So what can they do against

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones? Because we know that beyond the quarterbacks. Who

747
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Speaker 1: was the key last year? Who was Aaron Donald? So

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Speaker 1: if Chris Jones, a guy who in the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: had eight pressures and on those eight plays there were

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Speaker 1: three sacks, two by himself and five incompletions. Yes, if

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00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Chris Jones can be that guy, and he was talking

752
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: to the media about oh yeah, they're gonna move him

753
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: up and down the line, it's not just going to

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Speaker 1: be so simple as him lining up in the same spot.

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Speaker 1: Love rep after Rep. Paula, I love that right there?

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Speaker 1: What is the most destructive defensive force in the football universe?

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Speaker 1: A free technique that you can't block? Baby to me,

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Carter out of Georgia is that guy, If

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Speaker 1: he's the next Chris Jones, the next Aaron Donald? Dare

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Speaker 1: I say if he's that dude, If he's him, you

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Speaker 1: make him your pick at number three. If your prison

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I just gotta talk to him, or is

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00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: that okay? Polly? Can I talk to him? See what

764
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Speaker 1: kind of motor he's got? Can I do that? Hey?

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Speaker 1: It's a Cardinal season ticket priority list, and look at

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Speaker 1: some of the opponents beyond the division. You got Theiance,

767
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Ravens, the Falcons, and the Bengals all

768
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: come into town next season at State Farm Stadium. Go

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Speaker 1: to easy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists for all

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Speaker 1: your Infoeasy Cardinals dot Com slash priority lists will come

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Speaker 1: back more about the Super Bowl. Might even get a

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Speaker 1: prediction out of Ron Wolfley. Next on the Big Red

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Speaker 1: Rage besented by santan Ford and Gilbert and it works

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Speaker 1: out of the shotgun. He takes it facing pressure. He's

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: in trouble. He swat around about, He's hard to get away.

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00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: He looks the floor, he doves dock Freedom catches to

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Speaker 1: me dot At the twenty five card leaven Tyree comes

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Speaker 1: up with the Paul or just took the laugh of

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Speaker 1: heroes manning forward put a judgments at the charts are

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Speaker 1: black top of Holy thirty five seconds for betting it takes,

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Speaker 1: puts it down and take the work and one of

782
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: the biggest upsets Pool history. The Giants shut be they

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00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: previously upbeat Patriots and a half walk super Bowl Quarter two.

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Speaker 1: In the shut there's the Snappets belt high quick throw.

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Speaker 1: It's intercepted. It the goal line. Let's intercepted bow uncol Butler.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Frontler is intercepted, Rustle. Listen, let the goal line

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Speaker 1: twenty seconds left. Act memories, big time memories. I was saying, well,

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Speaker 1: if I was sitting on auxiliary press for that last

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty nine here in the AC, that's code

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Speaker 1: for three rows from the very top of the building. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's where you needed to be two bowl that's right.

792
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: And so everyone thought the Super Bowl is going one

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00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: way with one victor, and then boom, Malcolm Butler decided

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Speaker 1: it the other way. If there's one thing State Farm

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Speaker 1: Stadium does better than any other venue in the NFL,

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00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: dare I say playoff football, NFL postseason football. I mean

797
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: almost always something crazy is in store in that building,

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Speaker 1: whether it was Super Bowl forty nine and the way

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Speaker 1: that came down, or we heard super Bowl forty two,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven with that unbeaten Patriots team, that

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Speaker 1: David Tyree catch by the Giants. Just think about some

802
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: of the drama in that building. I mean super bowls

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: and then Cardinals hail Larry for example in the fifteen playoffs. Right, yeah, no, Pauly.

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00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: The building, of course, has seen an awful lot of

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00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: that goodness right there. Think about this too. The Philadelphia

806
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Eagles they played there this year and they won there.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs, that's what Polly, they played there

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately they won there. And then when I think

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Speaker 1: of the teams that are playing over at State Farm

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Speaker 1: Stadium in Super Bowl fifty seven, the very first thing

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Speaker 1: I think of is Jalen Hurts versus Patrick Mahomes Paull.

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Speaker 1: This is first time Polly against second team All Pro.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm gonna buy you some time

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Speaker 1: for your prediction because I just want to I just

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Speaker 1: want to throw out what Roger Goodell had to say

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Speaker 1: at his annual Commissioner press conference given a shout out

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Speaker 1: to Arizona just as State fo Stadium as the host,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals as the host team, the valley as the

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Speaker 1: host city. I mean, think about, you know, everything that's

820
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: gone into it for how many years and we do

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Speaker 1: mean years of planning, and for the Commissioner, who usually

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Speaker 1: waits till after a Super Bowl to give the plaudits

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Speaker 1: and the prompts, for him to say it before the

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Speaker 1: game even kicked off. So that was something, and that's

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Speaker 1: a credit to Michael Bidwell and Larry Fitzgerald J. Perry,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the Super Bowl Committee. So you tell me,

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Speaker 1: wolf how's this game gonna go. Who's gonna win? What's

828
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: the score? Let's see. Patrick Mahomes has been two three

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Speaker 1: super Bowls counting this one. Yep, he's one and one.

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00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts zero and zero. I believe he's going to

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Speaker 1: be zero and one. I think Pat Mahomes is Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and goes two and one in this super Bowl. See.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to the Eagles. I want to

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Speaker 1: say talent, Trump's the experience, but too many people are

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Speaker 1: taking the Eagles, and so I'm gonna go the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in a Clinton. I think it's gonna be bookends. They

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Speaker 1: started their season with a win in that stadium. I

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Speaker 1: think there gonna end the season thirty one, twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. We'll see if it goes down

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Speaker 1: to the wire. Special thanks Jim Almahundro and Cody Fincher

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Speaker 1: for Dave pass Ron Wolflee on Paul Kelvey seat. This

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Speaker 1: has been the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert Jaw Number one. You've been listening to the

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