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Speaker 1: Adam Carolla joins us. Now, I couldn't tell because it

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Speaker 1: then then yeah, I could see mass mandates in public

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Speaker 1: places going on for infinity because the virus doesn't go

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Speaker 1: away because of a vaccine. You just simply have a

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Speaker 1: way to fight it. What are you going to do,

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Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul? And we're talking to obviously the great senator

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky for Thanksgiving? Like, what what's your plan? Then? Everything?

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Speaker 1: After everything that you just said, are you going to

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Speaker 1: have a gathering large gathering at home? Do you do

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Speaker 1: it outside? Is it warm enough? But what? What? What

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Speaker 1: are you going to do? Ours will be underground in

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Speaker 1: a cave with armed guards to keep the governor away.

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Speaker 1: Well done. Oh, the guards have orders to shoot on

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Speaker 1: site ifybody comes to try to stop our family from gathering.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying that facetiously. No, but we're having a

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Speaker 1: normal Thanksgiving. We are, you know, it's not. It's our business.

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Speaker 1: In a free country, every individual and every society makes

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Speaker 1: their own rules, and we will take precautions for elderly

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Speaker 1: family members. We already do and have been taking precautions,

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Speaker 1: but we are not going to simply say, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of crazy. These people will not even

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Speaker 1: admit that you have immunity if you've already had it.

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Speaker 1: Even though twelve million people had it, they found five

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Speaker 1: people who might have had it again, and they say, oh, well,

449
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Speaker 1: that proves they don't have immunity. No, that proves the opposite,

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Speaker 1: you idiot. It proves that the vast majority of people

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Speaker 1: do not get it again, they do develop immunity. And

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Speaker 1: actually all the science now is arguing that you do

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Speaker 1: have immunity if you've had it. The only question is

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Speaker 1: how long. But even the how long question is that

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Speaker 1: for eight months now we are showing it and some

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Speaker 1: of the people that were infected with stars seventeen years

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Speaker 1: ago still have memory immunity. So there's a very good

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Speaker 1: chance that we are going to have long standing immunity.

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Speaker 1: But this is good news not only for the people

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Speaker 1: who had it, but for the vaccine that may not

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Speaker 1: be to take a vaccine every year. It made that

462
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Speaker 1: one vaccine can protect you for quite a while. It's interesting,

463
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Speaker 1: and the treatments are getting so much better too, right,

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Speaker 1: so we're seeing this nearly two hundred thousand cases in

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Speaker 1: the US on Friday, Yet the death rate is much

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Speaker 1: much lower than it was in March and April. Senator, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if we had the same death rate right now that

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Speaker 1: we had in March and April, we'd have ten thousand

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Speaker 1: people dying a day, and we've averaged about a thousand

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Speaker 1: dying a day, which is still terrible, but just we

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Speaker 1: should be thanking our lucky stars. We should be extolling

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Speaker 1: our doctors and thanking them, our doctors and nurses. We

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Speaker 1: should be thanking the president for moving forward with the vaccine. Instead,

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Speaker 1: it's all recriminations and hate towards the President, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just sick and tired of it. They won't report any

476
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Speaker 1: good news. The vaccine is good news, Immunity is good news.

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Speaker 1: Treatment is good news. The treatment with steroids, with remdessevie

478
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Speaker 1: and now with monoclonal antibodies has cut the death rate

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Speaker 1: for severely ill from twenty six percent of people dying

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Speaker 1: to about nine So, you know, almost doubling your chances,

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Speaker 1: or a little more than doubling your chances of staying

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Speaker 1: alive when you're seriously sick because of advancements that have

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Speaker 1: been discovered in the last six months. Fear certainly sells.

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Speaker 1: And last question for you, Senator, and it involves Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and obviously those two Senate seats just so crucial in

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Speaker 1: terms of the future of the country, quite frankly, because

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Speaker 1: if you have a blank check from the House to

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Speaker 1: the Senate, right to the Oval Office, with Democrats in

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Speaker 1: charge of all three, you're looking at abolishing ice, You're

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Speaker 1: looking at abolishing the filibuster, You're looking at abolishing the

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Speaker 1: Electoral College, expanding the Supreme Court, expanding the Senate, banning fracking,

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Speaker 1: reallocation of police funds, and I could go down the

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Speaker 1: line with about one hundred other things. Yet in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing Hollywood and the media saying, you know, you

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Speaker 1: should move to Georgia, you should vote there to get

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Speaker 1: these two Democrats in. But you saw it in Kentucky

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Speaker 1: right with Amy McGrath and Senate Majority Leader McConnell, where

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Speaker 1: outside influence comes in and suddenly people don't like that

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Speaker 1: that much. When local elections, state elections get nationalized, and

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Speaker 1: we heard that McConnell's in such trouble. You only won

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Speaker 1: by twenty points right, So what do you see happening

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Speaker 1: in Georgia. Ultimately, will Republicans keep the Senate? You know,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that I've been trying to do

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Speaker 1: is talk to libertarians there. We had a great libertarian

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Speaker 1: candidates at Randy got two point three percent of the vote,

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Speaker 1: Shane Hazel, and I think we need to talk to libertarians.

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Speaker 1: There was over one hundred thousand people who voted for

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Speaker 1: the libertarian in the Purdue race. They don't want socialism,

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Speaker 1: they don't want DC to be a state equal to Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of common ground, but

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Speaker 1: they're frustrated with Republicans the same way I am. I'm

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Speaker 1: frustrated with Republicans who spend too much. I'm frustrated with

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Speaker 1: all the bailouts have been passing this year. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, the Democrats are only worse. And I

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Speaker 1: do think that there are things that a Republican majority

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Speaker 1: will stop. You know, I'm one of the most libertarian

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Speaker 1: members of the Senate. I will have more power in

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Speaker 1: a Republican Senate than a Democrat Senate. I will continue

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Speaker 1: to speak out for ending the Afghan War. I will

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Speaker 1: continue to speak out for young people getting a second

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Speaker 1: chance if they make the mistake with drugs. So there

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Speaker 1: are all kinds of things that are beneficial for libertarian

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Speaker 1: leading people, and I hope that they will consider there

524
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Speaker 1: won't be a Libertarian on the ballot this time. It

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Speaker 1: will be Republican or Democrat. I hope they will consider

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Speaker 1: coming out for a Republican even if they don't think

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Speaker 1: the Republicans are perfect, just because frankly, the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: so darn evil. And we'll have to leave it there. Centator.

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Speaker 1: I hyped you up a lot before this interview, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we're able to finally speak for a first time.

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Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground. I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: making time for us today. I'm reading on Twitter. I've

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Speaker 1: not confirmed it yet. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: did not violate state election law when they were restricted

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Speaker 1: how close pole observers could stand to buy to watch

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Speaker 1: the processing of mail in ballots because of COVID. How

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Speaker 1: about no, they should have made accommodations knowing considering they

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Speaker 1: were ignoring the great doctor Fauchi. And I'm by the way,

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Speaker 1: I do like doctor Fauchi. I know everybody made a

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Speaker 1: million stakes in this and every model was wrong. Everybody

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Speaker 1: got everything wrong. Nobody did it maliciously. I don't believe that,

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Speaker 1: and I think he worked with the best of intentions.

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Speaker 1: No mask, yes mass, no mask CDC guidelines, This one changes,

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Speaker 1: now one changes. I just think nobody expected the worst

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Speaker 1: pandemic since twenty I've since nineteen seventeen and eighteen for

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Speaker 1: crying out loud. And but with that said, this is

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Speaker 1: where I get into a fight with Linda here and

548
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I want to open this store,

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Speaker 1: because this is not going to work in my favor.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of issues emerging out of this.

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Speaker 1: Governors now ratcheting up all these restrictions ahead of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot of them, and you know,

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Speaker 1: some people saying to cancel it all together. California, Pennsylvania, governors, mayors,

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Speaker 1: you know, restrictions and you know, how are you going

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Speaker 1: to eat outside when it's like twenty degrees out? That's

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Speaker 1: that's I'm not going to work well, you know. And

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Speaker 1: then I love Governor Whitmer's husband. He breaks the rules.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom breaks the rules. Who else broke the rules?

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Speaker 1: You know? That's out there lecturing the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: But the big news to me is Operation Warp Speed

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Speaker 1: and the president pushing for a vaccine fast is now

562
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Speaker 1: paid off because now we've got two of them. We

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Speaker 1: told you about. Maderna's announced me yesterday ninety four point

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Speaker 1: five percent efficacy rate, which is amazing, especially you know,

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Speaker 1: January twenty first was the first known case of coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: If you can believe it, What a year this has

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Speaker 1: been that we had and here we are less than

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Speaker 1: a year later. We've never broken down the sequence of

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Speaker 1: a virus this fast ever in human history. With a

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Speaker 1: vaccine that's ninety four and a half percent effective. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's and I know that a lot of states now

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Speaker 1: are experiencing what we said would happen, which is it's

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Speaker 1: not if it's when you get a rebound. Talked about

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Speaker 1: that a lot at the time with doctor Oz and

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Speaker 1: our medical a team here. By the way, California authorities

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Speaker 1: with all their restrictions, they're traveling to Hawaii as they

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Speaker 1: tell residents in California to stay home. Governor A. Cuomo

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Speaker 1: ripped for telling others to admit mistakes. But you know,

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Speaker 1: let's not deal with that nursing home decision. I think

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Speaker 1: Governor Cuomo did it on purpose. No, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think he made a mistake and it was a costly

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Speaker 1: one and can't happen, especially when you had the beds

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Speaker 1: that were built by the president that nobody used. Actually,

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Speaker 1: this is I'm not even making this up. The Blaze

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Speaker 1: has a story today that strip clubs are set to

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Speaker 1: reopen in California, but churches remain locked down. You can't

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Speaker 1: make that story up. Coronavirus death rate for kids has

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Speaker 1: fallen to zero point zero one percent. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the strangest thing. People devote their entire lives to viruses

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Speaker 1: and studying viruses and finding vaccines and cures. And you know,

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Speaker 1: like for example and one h one, as Joe calls it,

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Speaker 1: you know, swine flu that impacted kids more than adults.

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Speaker 1: This thing attacks older people more than younger people, people

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Speaker 1: compromised immune systems. Then we have you know, some people,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Sweden member, they had the herd mentality thing.

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Speaker 1: Now they're they're putting on restrictions because I guess it worked,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work that it worked again. I never

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Speaker 1: bought into it myself, but you know, it's I don't

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Speaker 1: think again. I think people were trying what they thought

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Speaker 1: would work best. I don't think they wanted to kill people,

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Speaker 1: at least I would hope that's at their intention. Biden

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Speaker 1: Is says he wouldn't hesitate to get a COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: vaccination of deem safe. Well, I think these pharmaceutical companies

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Speaker 1: are saying that it's safe. Then you have the battle

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, and you got, for example, a county in

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Speaker 1: New York is saying they're not going to comply with

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Speaker 1: Governor Cuomo's orders, sighting mass depression and stress resulting from

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Speaker 1: a constant barrage of regulations. This is Fulton County share

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Speaker 1: of Richard Giardino announcing the decision in a skating Facebook

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Speaker 1: post on Saturday. I guess they're gonna come and arrest him,

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Speaker 1: probably by week's end. And you know they're telling some

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Speaker 1: people not to even have Thanksgiving, or to have it outside,

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Speaker 1: or to only have three people. Which family member you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say no to? Good luck with that now. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just the To me, I'm I'm mesmerized, fascinated.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that are doctors ones

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Speaker 1: a brain surgeon actually watched up front a brain surgery

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Speaker 1: because I'm a lunatic, and you know, anyway, Linda doesn't

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Speaker 1: like the idea of taking the vaccine. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a second. It Doctor Josh Umber is with

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Speaker 1: us right now with Atlas MD. Good friend of the program.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Harvey Reisch is back with us, Yell Epidemiology professor guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Thank you for being with us. Good to

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Speaker 1: be with you always. Doctor Josh, you've been with us

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Speaker 1: the whole time, and doctor Reisch, you too. A great job,

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Speaker 1: both of you. I look at this as like an

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Speaker 1: amazing thing, and half my friends say, under no circumstances

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Speaker 1: would they ever take it. Doctor Umber, you know I

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Speaker 1: agree with you that this is really a miracle of

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Speaker 1: modern medicine and science that we could leverage twenty years

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Speaker 1: of studying this ours family of viruses into a functional, safe,

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Speaker 1: and incredibly effective vaccine in the course of eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten months. There's nothing short of fantastic. We stand on

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Speaker 1: the shoulders of all the science that has come before us,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is a great opportunity. Doctor Reich,

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Speaker 1: what you think, well, I think there's a reason to

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Speaker 1: be optimistic. I think that there are some uncertainties, and

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Speaker 1: I think the likelihood of benefit is much stronger than

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: the likelihood of harm, and I think it has to

640
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: play out, and I think that people who are feeling

641
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: that they're more at risk will be more willing to

642
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: volunteer to take it, and they'll become, in a sense,

643
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: our society's guinea pigs. And that's what it'll take. It'll

644
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: take some months, three to six months before that plays

645
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: out more and people become more comfortable with it, and

646
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: there will be gradual uptake, and assuming that it's found

647
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: to be highly effective, and that's the transition time where

648
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: we'll still need to cover the people for whom it

649
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: doesn't work or who doesn't work well enough, or who

650
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: can't get it, or we may find out that there

651
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: are variants of the virus, like the newly increasing the

652
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: end four thirty nine K variant mutation of the virus,

653
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: that it may not work for at all because it's

654
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: got a different protein on the outside than the regular virus.

655
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: So all are unknowns and we'll just have to work

656
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: through it. And Doctor Number, I mean what frustrates me too.

657
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the phrase Oz used which when

658
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: he would say that you go to army with the war,

659
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you go to the war with the army, you have

660
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: not the one you wish you had. And that's when

661
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: we were talking about different treatments like hydroxy claroquin zethro magazine, etc.

662
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Or later rem dissevere or now even regeneron or convalescent

663
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: plasma and all these other treatments. There's still like, for example,

664
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: a lot of kids are coming home from college they

665
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: have this thing because it's been spreading like wildfire on

666
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: some college campuses, which then puts mom and that at risk,

667
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: and grandma and grandpa at risk. Right, I mean definitely

668
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: the you know, there's that exposure and as people travel again,

669
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it and then they're gonna go back

670
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: home for the holidays, and which is why we do

671
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: see a spike of just even normal influenza as as

672
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: people travel. So I think some of that is preventable

673
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: and some of it's just not. As we have to

674
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: go and live our lives. And doctor Rish, I mean,

675
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: what would be your preferred treatment at this point? I

676
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: think that doctors now have a repertoire of drugs to

677
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: use that are very effective in out patients. Used early.

678
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Hydroxy chloroquine is one Ivermectin is another, vitamin D zinc

679
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: steroids if indicated, There's even more. There's there's a number

680
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: of things that have been increasingly shown to be useful.

681
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: And these are clinical judgments that doctors make with each

682
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: patient and is not a cookie cutter recipe, but it's

683
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: why doctors practice medicine with their patients. The strangest thing

684
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: that I noticed doctor numbers. Some people, you know that

685
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: they really fall prey to this thing. Other people get it.

686
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: And by the way, younger and old are not just

687
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: younger and they have either zero symptoms or next to

688
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: zero symptoms. Why is that, Well, I think, yeah, that's

689
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: definitely an interesting aspect of it, and probably lots of reasons. One,

690
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I think we have a lot to false positives on

691
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: the tests. You know, for example, if it's not a

692
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: PCR test, it's not as accurate and the airlines won't

693
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: accept it as an example of the proof that it's

694
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: less accurate, and so then you have people say, well,

695
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: I tested positive but didn't have any symptoms, and so

696
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: you'd wonder if they were a false positive. For the

697
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: patients who we've seen that have tested positive, on PCR,

698
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: the vast majority of had you mild to moderate, moderate

699
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: to severe symptoms, very few hospitalizations. I think that is

700
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: aspect of a younger, healthier group potentially. But there was

701
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: an interesting study out yesterday that started to explain why

702
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: people might be reacting differently, and it's really in some

703
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: cases it's the body's response to the infection more than

704
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: the infection itself, much more like an autoimmune illness, and

705
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: so then the body revs up, it attacks everything, which

706
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: might give an interesting mechanism of action for the medicines

707
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: like plaqueil HCQQ. For why they help is because they

708
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: calm down That body is um inaccurate over response. So

709
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: I agree we have a lot of ways to manage

710
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the people who all spectrums of their response. Last question,

711
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Doctor Rich, are you inclined to take the vaccine? I'm

712
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: thinking about it, um. I personally would choose hydroxychloric when

713
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: as a propylaxis or I remectan as a propylaxis versus

714
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: a vaccine. But then again, I'm in my seventies already,

715
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: and for me, I think the vaccine is less likely

716
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: to be that strong of you know, protection compared to

717
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: the medications. But I'm open to it. Well, doctor Josh, well,

718
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: can't wait to get it? What are you? Oh, you

719
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to get it? So he said, can't wait

720
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: to get it? Yeah, okay, thank you, And I said that.

721
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to be very blunt the fact that

722
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: I get a flu shot every year. It drives half

723
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: my friend's nuts. Linda cannot believe I do this every year.

724
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: And I did it, I don't know whatever two months ago. Yeah,

725
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean but all right, anyway, doctor Rish, thank you,

726
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: thank you. There's our answer, Linda. Why are you so

727
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: resistant towards this? Why resistant towards what? The flu shot?

728
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Any the flu shot, the vaccine? You're like, no way,

729
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: never happening, not gonna happen. Well, I't taking that thing.

730
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: You know. I think a lot of things that happen

731
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: in our country can be avoided by self care, self awareness,

732
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: taking the proper supplements, eating right, working out, and all

733
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: these other things. I think Americans on the whole are

734
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: pretty lazy. They don't like to get out, they don't

735
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: like to work out. What am I wrong? So what

736
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: you're saying working working out is not going to stop

737
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: you from getting the virus. This is no you're not

738
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: listening to me. That's a different conversation. I'm saying just

739
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: being healthy. So being healthy in general, taking your part

740
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: in your own well being is one conversation. Then the

741
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: second conversation is Okay, now there's a vaccine out there. Now,

742
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the vaccine is good or not,

743
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: because I don't know enough about it. But on the whole,

744
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: there was a lot that we could do for the

745
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: American people from the beginning, but we weren't allowed to

746
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: do because of government restrictions. As doctor Risch just said,

747
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: there are other ideas and prescriptions and therapeutics that can

748
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: be used. Hydroxy chloroquine, ivermectin, with the use of selenium

749
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: and zinc and other items that you would check with

750
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: your own personal primary care physicians to discuss. Will allow

751
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: you to be prophylactic and prepare yourself when you first

752
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: get it. We could have saved people in their eighties

753
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: and their nineties. We could have saved people with pre

754
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: existing conditions. And I'm in this group chat with all

755
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: of these huge Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, you know, practicing

756
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: at Lenox Hill Hospital. Wait wait, let me finish, And

757
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: they were able to treat all these people and all

758
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: these compromised groups, and they were okay, and now we

759
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: have a vaccine that caused a fortune. Okay. But this

760
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: is the saddest part. The saddest part was you couldn't

761
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: even have the discussion exactly my polan politicized it and

762
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: shut it down. Where Okay, do we have the perfect answer? No,

763
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: but what do we got to maybe work with and

764
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: have some hope and try to save these lives? You're right,

765
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: and that, by the way, I blame the mob for that.

766
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: A lot of the medium mob couldn't even mention Donald

767
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Trump is I think he's you know whatever because he

768
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: mentioned hydroxy cleric or that he had taken it at

769
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: one point early on. It's just sad. But then we've

770
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: made more advancements and it was room dissevere than it

771
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: was convalescent plasma, than it was regeneron. Then it's right.

772
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is they politicized the American people's

773
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: health period and the sentence, what did ros always say,

774
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Politics medicine intersect. Politics always wins. All right, I gotta

775
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: take a break. Catherine and Florida. Catherine, how are you good?

776
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: How are you doing Sean, I'm good. What's going on?

777
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm John here in Miami. I'm a frontline

778
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: COVID nurse, a pandemic nurse, I guess you would say.

779
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: And my husband's a frontline police officer down here in Miami.

780
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: And we're, you know, diehard Republicans to avoid getting this

781
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: thing even though you're on the front lines, that's pretty tough. Yes,

782
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: thank God, Thank God, because let me tell you, I

783
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: work at a government hospital and President Trump was amazing.

784
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: From the first week that we got our first COVID case.

785
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: We had no problems getting ppees, we had no problems

786
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: getting ventilators. He was an amazing, amazing force to be

787
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: reckoned with. He protected us like unbelievable. You don't hear

788
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: about this in the media. He was just a savior.

789
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: What he did with COVID is unprecedented, and he doesn't

790
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: get enough credit. And if Biden thinks that he's gonna

791
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: come rolong and take advantage of all the work that

792
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Trump has done, no, we will let him know that

793
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: is not the case. Long Island next weekend, through NYU

794
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: and Lang Gone, I know we'll have over one hundred

795
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: thousand vaccines just next week alone, Nassau County alone. And

796
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: that's now I'm going to be one of the first ones. Yes,

797
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I think. I think distribution

798
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: should be very simple. Frontline healthcare workers like you and

799
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: your husband, next, the elderly, the most vulnerable, those with

800
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: pre existing conditions and underlying or compromised immune systems. And

801
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why, but I keep reading again and

802
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: again and again that this is disproportionately hitting and impacting

803
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: most negatively in minority communities. I'd go there, third, go

804
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: where the need is, go where it would be most useful.

805
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: And then the general population at large, and starting with

806
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: older people, moving down to younger people. Now there's gonna

807
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: be people that don't want to take it, and they

808
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: don't have to. They should not be forced. You know.

809
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Now you get people that you go from the anti

810
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: as you know, crazies out there, because I think it's

811
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: a little nuts. I'm not anti vax, but Linda kinda

812
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: is a little bit. And but I think people have

813
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: to have the choice or whether they look. People are

814
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: going to decide what risks they're comfortable with. At this point,

815
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: everybody knows about social distancing and masks they know, they

816
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: know what the risks are. We also know what the

817
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: options are available from M disovered or in general. You know,

818
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: make your own decision with your doctor on any of that,

819
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: or hydroxy chloric win A, zithromiacin and zinc. You know,

820
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: everybody's got to make up their own mind. And but

821
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna I know so many people they

822
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: call me and ask me, now, what were you saying

823
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: on TV and radio about this stuff? I feel like

824
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, here, here are the articles I

825
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: most rely on, the ones that I think are the

826
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: most valuable. Here are the studies that I think are

827
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: the most valuable, and I pass them on. But ultimately

828
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: people have to decide, but will you get the vaccine

829
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: when it's available. Absolutely already tried to be one of

830
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: the first ones to get the vaccine. And as far

831
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: as the hydroxy and the rem dizi here, I can

832
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: tell you firsthand. You know, I'm not a scientist on

833
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: the front lines, and I've dealt with hundreds and hundreds

834
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: of patients, and I can tell you that I have

835
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: seen them circling in the drain, probably going to die.

836
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: Get rem DIZI here, or get plasma and immediately turn

837
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: around and get better. It's amazing, happened right before my eyes.

838
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: I how about hydroxychlorin? Did that work too? Absolutely? Absolutely?

839
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: It all depends. You know, everybody has a different system

840
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: that reacts differently to different types of medications that I

841
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: definitely have seen it work firsthand. I could attest that

842
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I have seen it work myself. And it's amazing how

843
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: the media wanted to politicize the whole thing and make

844
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: all Americans be afraid to take it because Donald Trump

845
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: suggested it. Donald Trump has saved none. They've done a

846
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: great disservice that lands. I think it was the New

847
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: England Journal of Medicine. Those two those two medical studies

848
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: that they hold on hydroxy were damaging and then politicizing

849
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: it was damaging in my view. And again I'm not

850
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: pushing for it. I'm not advocating it. It's my sixty

851
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: five year old drug who's the one guy that knows

852
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: more than anything about it and is dispensed it for

853
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: forty two years, Doctor Daniel Wallace. I know he convinced

854
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: me and it's not just him that it's the doctors

855
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that I've interviewed from Harvard and Baylor and Princeton and

856
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: all over the country, and doctor Oz and our medical

857
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: a team, and they've all said pretty much the same

858
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: thing in some way. But you can't even have the discussion.

859
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: And look, if people want to go into a bar

860
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: in their local bar and they don't and they're willing

861
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: to take the risk, at this point, you're not going

862
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: to stop them. I mean, then the idea that you're

863
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: shutting down these economies again, it's going to have a

864
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: devastating impact on everybody. You're proving every single day that

865
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: if you take the proper precautions that you're gonna be okay.

866
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: And I'm listening to people like you anyway, You're a hero.

867
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, kath So we're chronicling, you know, the real

868
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: life impact of all of these COVID government shutdowns on

869
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: real restaurant owners. Now in New York today, they had

870
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: been at twenty five percent occupancy indoor dining in New York.

871
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: That has now gone away. We've been We've been bringing

872
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: business owners on. It is devastating to them. Remember we

873
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: told you about this New Jersey gym owner. Remember this guy,

874
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: the cops had to come. They rested him for now Meanwhile,

875
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: the guy I remember interviewing him at the time, I

876
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: mean he literally, I mean there's social distancing in the gym.

877
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: People are wearing masks in the gym, they have wipes

878
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: everywhere in the gym, they have purell everywhere in the gym,

879
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: and and people are choosing to go. Now, everybody understands

880
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: the rules with COVID, social distancing, masks, etc. We've gone

881
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: over them and knows you do you know the fines

882
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: against this one gym owner now have exceeded more than

883
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: a million dollars. It's over for him. His business's dream now.

884
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I just happen to know a lot of entrepreneurs and

885
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: people that risk it all to open that restaurant, open

886
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: that bakery, open that store, opened, that gym, open whatever,

887
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: and even though their customers want to go and choose

888
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: to go. Knowing everything we know, no, I did think

889
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: one of the coolest things we did see this weekend

890
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: was the vaccine leaving Kalamazoo, Michigan or they're around there,

891
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: the Faiza plant there. I think it's importage and getting

892
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: on their ups trucks and the FedEx trucks and routed

893
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: down around the country. It is a tribute to medical

894
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: researchers and scientists and doctors. I mean, it's just an incredible,

895
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: miraculous advancement in terms of a vaccine. Anyway, you got

896
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: a couple kicked off of United flight to New Jersey

897
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: because the two year old little girl on the flight

898
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't wear the mask the right way, and you know

899
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: she's struggling to put the mask on. Now, I'm sure

900
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: there's a way to work with the girl and make

901
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: that happen if if you have the patience for it.

902
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: But there wasn't enough patience for it from what I read.

903
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: You know, the girls in tears in the video, I mean,

904
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: it breaks your heart to see this, and you know

905
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: then you've got of course, well, they're actually now looking

906
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: for a recall petition as it relates to Gavin Newsom

907
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: out in California, because they've shut down the whole state

908
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: out there, and the burdens that are placed on Americans.

909
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand. Most people I know

910
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: that open a small business, everything they have they throw

911
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: into it, every penny they have their heart and solely

912
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: throw into it. And it's hard enough to make it

913
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: as it is. Here's a case for example, if you

914
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: look at California, now there's a woman who's incredible. Her

915
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: story would make your cry. Owner of the Pineapple Hill

916
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: Saloon and Grill. Anyway, I've heard her story. I think

917
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: she was all with Laura in Ingram when I saw

918
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: the other night. And anyway, she owns her saloon, her store,

919
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: her restaurant. Nobody's allowed in and right next store, they've

920
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: got a trailer in an area where they're I guess

921
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: doing film production and they're in closer contact than anybody

922
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: would have been in her own restaurant that she has

923
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: to pay for. But she's now closed down. Anyway, Angela Marston,

924
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: let me first play some of the comments that she

925
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: made calling out Hollywood hypocrisy over this. Well, I'm gonna

926
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: say this. It's it is a sad day when there

927
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: is a huge humanitarian crisis in your backyard and you

928
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: want to bicker over who's wearing a mask or who isn't.

929
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: And that is even not the point, because I actually

930
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: believe in wearing masks. By servers wear shields, they wear gloves,

931
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: they wear masks. And if you're going to TJ Max

932
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: right now, it's past with people inside and they're allowed

933
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: to be open. You know. So I don't understand why,

934
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood, their careers are made in pubs and bars.

935
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, you start off as a waiter trying to

936
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: be an actor or you know, we I have a

937
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: huge community of the entertainment industry that comes in that,

938
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: by the way, have been very, very supportive. And the

939
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: reality is, you know, I've been saying it, saying it

940
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: for a long time, is that pitting us against each

941
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: other for survival is not the way to go about this.

942
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: If anything, Netflix should be starting a fund to help

943
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: save the bars and help feed the people that have

944
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: supported their industry right here in their hometown of Hollywood.

945
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't understand why they feel

946
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: they have to be defensive and try to attack me,

947
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: because it's not about politics, it's about people. How about

948
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: they just cater out of Angela's saloon and girl, Angela

949
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: Marsden joins us. Now, first, I'm sorry about all you're

950
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: going through. I would imagine that everything your heart, your soul,

951
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: your finances you put into this, this is killing you. Yeah, yeah, Hannity.

952
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: Literally I'm not rich. I don't come from a rich family.

953
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: I have a silent partner and his sister actually at

954
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: the time with a friend of mine, and she was

955
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: diagnosed with cancer and he was like, look, if I

956
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: can get us alone, maybe this will help both of us.

957
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: And we literally took out a loan to pay this

958
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: bar off. And we've been working for ten years. The

959
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: first two years I didn't even take a salary. I

960
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: worked as a bartender just so that we could have

961
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: a retirement and some money coming in to help both

962
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: of us have a better life. So yeah, I mean,

963
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: you hit it on the nail. Every small business c

964
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: oner I talked to it's the same thing. You know,

965
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: this is their life savings, this is their retire and

966
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: and we employee you know, the the Independent Restaurant Association

967
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: gave me some stats. We appoint a million single parents

968
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: across the country. You know, we supply so many jobs

969
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: to the economy. And you know, that's another thing that

970
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: gets lost is these people, you know, employees that can't

971
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: pay their rent and the rents piling up and their

972
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: unemployments running out, and it's just it's a it's a

973
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: vicious circle of things that are like a tidal way

974
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: that's about to hit our community. And that's why I

975
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: don't understand why. You know, we all know COVID's that Actually,

976
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 1: I have family members that have gotten COVID, and if

977
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: my father gets it, I don't think he would survive

978
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: through it. I myself have had tuberculosis, Hannity. I was

979
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: told I wasn't supposed to be working in the public,

980
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I've had to work in the public

981
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: from day one. I'm going to lease everything, you know,

982
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: at my age, going back home and living at my

983
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: mom and dad's house with nothing. That's not an option.

984
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just listening to your story. I mean,

985
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: what I hear and I totally understand is desperation. But

986
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: your state is now shut down. And then, by the way,

987
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: you do see your state officials like Gavin Newsom, he's

988
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: sitting around elbow to elbow, you know, at his own

989
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: dining table. I didn't see anybody at the table with

990
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: a mask on. Yeah, I don't know if you know this.

991
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: As far as I know, Gavin Newsom's wineries have been

992
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: opened the entire time. I'm actually, you know, thinking about

993
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: taking a protest there. It's a little far from where

994
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm at, but I've been talking to people about it.

995
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Has been opened the entire time, and it just came

996
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 1: out that he has I think something like eight eight

997
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: businesses that he's a part of of which those eight

998
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: got like three million dollars in PPP loans. And I

999
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: know bar owners. You know, I'm going to give a

1000
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: shout out right now to Malley's Sugar Mill, you know,

1001
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: if you want to go and donate to them. That

1002
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: bar has been around forever and it really caters to

1003
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: the music industry and bringing in people, you know, big bands,

1004
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: but also making careers for people. They did not have food,

1005
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: and in La County, if you don't have food, you

1006
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: haven't been able to open for nine months, and the

1007
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: landlords still want the rents. They took out a personal loan, hannity,

1008
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: a personal loan that's almost gone, and their unemployments running

1009
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: out just to try to stave their bar or have

1010
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: a chance to open. God knows who wins, because there's

1011
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: no they're not telling them when they get to open,

1012
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: so they don't even know when they're gonna. I mean,

1013
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: I truly, truly and one of the lucky ones. I say,

1014
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: because I did get a PPP loan, I was able

1015
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: to go outdoors because I have food, you know, or

1016
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: more of a bar with food. One hundred and ten

1017
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: thousand restaurants have been put out of business already. It's

1018
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: just a thousand of us less. It's just a tip

1019
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: of the iceberg. I could listen. All I do now

1020
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: is buy my food as often as I can from

1021
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: all my restaurant puddies. And by the way, I'm gaining

1022
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: weight of it. But I mean, seriously, I just I

1023
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: buy more food than I ever will eat. I know

1024
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: these waiters, I know the chefs, I know the owners.

1025
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, think of what you have to

1026
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: pay in rent or mortgage. Think about putting the lights on,

1027
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: think about building out your restaurant, think about you know

1028
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: you need glasses you need already, so thick the margins.

1029
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: How many cheeseburgers do you have? What do you what's

1030
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: your like your favorite thing on the menu that you

1031
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: have at your place? Oh, well, we're we're we are

1032
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: really known for hammers, but we're very known for our

1033
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: chicken wings. You believe it or not. We have love

1034
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: chicken wings. Oh man, Oh we have the best in town.

1035
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: We tell a lot, you know, but you know, can

1036
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: you deliver it to New York can you stick it

1037
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: on one of those FedEx trucks. But you know, but

1038
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: I wish I could, and they would still pastread. You know.

1039
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: But this but the serious side of this, this is

1040
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: your whole life now, and now it's literally hanging in

1041
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: the balance. And I'm probably sure, if I'm guessing right,

1042
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: that a lot of your regular steady customers are probably

1043
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, trying to order you know, pick up, curb,

1044
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: pickup and all up. But it's not the same Anny.

1045
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: When we first did to go, I knew that doing

1046
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: to go, I would lose thousands of dollars, but I

1047
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: wanted to stay open so I could pay some of

1048
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: my staff at least and also keep the community together.

1049
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: And I did everything I could to get my sales

1050
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: up because we're not really known for it to go,

1051
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: and my regular customers did everything they could just support me,

1052
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: and I even did a fundraiser for the nurses. You know,

1053
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: if you bought food from me, I would take it

1054
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 1: and deliver lunches to the hospitals. Even with that, we

1055
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: were only we were losing ninety percent of our income.

1056
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: We were not We only made ten percent of what

1057
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: we normally would make, and I was taking a hit

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: of about twenty to thirty thousand a month. Do you

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: own the building or do your pay rent? No, we

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: pay rent, as as do most people in LA. That

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: probably means you can't pay you can't pay the normal rent.

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00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, then what do you do. I'm already sixty

1063
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars behind in rent, and nobody, the landlords will

1064
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: not work with you. I mean, here's the vicious cycle

1065
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: that you know, I guess and taking it off the

1066
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 1: subject of small businesses, I don't want to, but this

1067
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: is why I continue to keep talking. It's not just

1068
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: about my pub. I pray and hope that my pub

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: will be here. I've gotten so much love and generosity.

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00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: But everywhere around me, I'm talking five, like within a mile,

1071
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: five or six businesses that are never going to reopen,

1072
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: that are trying to do go fund these now. But

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: the thing is is, like I have, these are the

1074
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: customers that would come into my patio and tell me

1075
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: what's you know? They're going under They're not making it.

1076
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: We have people in LA. Your rent is say fifteen hundred, right,

1077
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe even more, who can't even pay their rent. Their

1078
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: unemployment has run out, they're on their last check. And

1079
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: the building owners aren't working with them. Because the banks

1080
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: are not working with the building owners, the building owners

1081
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: still have to pay taxes, and they still have to

1082
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: pay expenses. Not they're not not all the buildings. You

1083
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of people own little apartment buildings as

1084
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: a retirement as well. They're not getting the way. Linda

1085
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: sent me the article on this. You're right about the

1086
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: winery owned by or founded by Gavin Newsom. Wow, his

1087
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: wineries open. I wonder if they have taste tests on weekends.

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. No, can I believe it? Yeah? The answer

1089
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: the answer say at least yeah, I can believe it. Yeah,

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a happy medium. Now. I've been to

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: restaurants here that we're well now they're all closed. Well

1092
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: in New York, I you know, I've heard twenty one

1093
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: just shut down, you know along twenty one. Now, I

1094
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: gave his speech there. I'm not you've never used to

1095
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: dine there, but I've given speeches how many years Linda's

1096
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: twenty one club in New York. I remembered that, and

1097
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: I broke my heart. Oh my gosh, I've never been there,

1098
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: but you know, here it's happening here. We have the

1099
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: valley in it's been here for fifty years. They're drounning

1100
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: in debt and they don't think they're gonna make it.

1101
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: I can tell you ten places that have been here

1102
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: that long with history that are gone. They're not going

1103
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: to make it. By the way, Linda, just you can

1104
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: say it on air. You can get the credit. I'm

1105
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: not stealing the nineteen thirty nine my credit. Give it

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01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: to Ethan. All right, thank you. But I mean it's

1107
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot of that's a lot of time and now

1108
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: it's gone, just gone. It's like we're coming up on

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01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: one hundred anniversary. See you later. I glad you with

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: us eight hundred and ninety four one Sean if you

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: want to be a part of this extravaganza. Other news

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Speaker 1: and won't get to all of this with Congressman Jim

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: Jordan here. In a second, Bill Bard moved today to

1114
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: protect the Durham investigation from interference if there were a

1115
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: future Biden administration, and he elevated John Durham now to

1116
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: the role of special Counsel, which means that he would

1117
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: be protected from any interference by any potential Biden administration

1118
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: of any of the Russia Gate hoaxers in the Obama

1119
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: Biden administration end up under investigation and should since Joe

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01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: Biden took part in that January fifth, twenty seventeen meeting

1121
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: where he Comey Yates susan nice note to self, memo

1122
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: to self, what happened in this office fifteen days ago?

1123
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Obama said, do everything by the book anyway. The Attorney

1124
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: General made that appointment. Today, a lot of news has

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Speaker 1: been made at the age's comments that the DOJ is

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01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: yet to find widespread voter fraud that could have changed

1127
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election specifically, Although this is a nuanced point,

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01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: but it is an important one. He's saying that that

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: would be on a federal criminal in the criminal justice system,

1130
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: with allegations that he is saying should be made in

1131
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: civil lawsuits. All of the campaign's litigation, just so you know,

1132
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: is civil in that sense, that really doesn't have an

1133
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: impact on the ongoing litigation distinction important point. But would

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: it be criminal? I think it would be, and I

1135
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: would hope that the testimony we've been hearing all day

1136
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: would be compelling. Jim Jordan of Ohio joins us right now,

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. How are you, sir,

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01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm kind sell, I'm going to do with you. Hope

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: you had a good Thanksgiving. I did, and I want

1140
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: to talk about that and to say so. Would the

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: Attorney General's announcement about protecting Durham and elevating him to

1142
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: a special counsel your thoughts? No, I think you said

1143
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: it right. Remember Joe Biden was in the Oval Office

1144
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: at that January fifth meeting. Joe Biden's the guy who

1145
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: brought up the logan actor be going to be as

1146
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: they were thinking about using to go after Michael Flynn.

1147
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: Of course that's this, that's the meeting where they had

1148
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: the strategy to go after Michael Flynn, to take him

1149
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: out because he would have uncovered exactly what they had

1150
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: they had done to the Trump campaign. So I think

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01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: this is a good move. If you look at the letter, though,

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: I think there's there's two interesting points at the letter

1153
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: that the Attorney generals into mister Nadam, mister Graham, Senator Finstein,

1154
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: and myself. And in that letter he says additional information

1155
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: has been uncovered. So what is that information? How's that go?

1156
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: So Germam has obviously found something. The other thing thought.

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: The other point that I would I make from that

1158
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: that cover letter that he sent, he talks about tolling

1159
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: the notification he was supposed to the Attorney General was

1160
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: supposed to tell us this when he made the determination

1161
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: and exactly named um named Durham the special counsel, which

1162
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: took place back on October nineteenth. I wish you would

1163
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: have made this public beforehand before the election. Optually he didn't.

1164
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: But I do think it's a good move because if

1165
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: in fact it the Biden administration, we need to remember

1166
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was intrigully involved in that key January fifth

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01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: meeting that you pointed out. All right, have you been

1168
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: watching all of the testimony today if you had an

1169
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch this, I have not. I've been. I've

1170
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: been in meetings and stuff here on Capital though I'm

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01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: not now Well, you've been hearing from one whistle blower

1172
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: after another, and I've played earlier in the program. I'll

1173
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: play it later. But I thought Democrats on the media

1174
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: love whistleblowers. But all these people signed legal affidavit's under

1175
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: the threat of perjury, and they're all given a testimony

1176
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: about all the irregularities that they saw and is beyond compelling,

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: including a truck driver talking about transporting ballots across state

1178
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: lines in large quantities of maybe up to three hundred thousand. Yeah, no,

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 1: I agree, And just step back for a second, son,

1180
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: They're still counting vote four weeks after the election. There's

1181
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: still counting votes in California and New York. Ask yourself

1182
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: this question. If the United States of America, if we

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: sent people to some other country, some country in a

1184
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: different continent to oversee their election, and that country that

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: we were overseeing elections were still counting votes twenty eight

1186
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: days after the election was supposed to happen, we'd say, oh,

1187
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: this is a problem. We better talk to the un

1188
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: about this. We better do something. We've better withhold four

1189
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: and eights that country. But here in the United States,

1190
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: we have two of our two of our four biggest states, California,

1191
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: New York still counting ballots today. So everybody knows something's

1192
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: not right with this election. We can see all the

1193
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: fact that this president got ten million, ten plus more

1194
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: million votes, we won twenty seven out of twenty seven

1195
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: to seats in the House. We kept this in it.

1196
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: We picked up a bunch of seats in the House,

1197
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: he increased his vote with Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and

1198
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: yet somehow comes up short. So we know there's something.

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: And then we have all these people coming forward willing

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: to swear under oath that this is in fact, you know,

1201
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: crazy things that happen. So of course we should look

1202
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: at this. And it comes back to the fundamental question.

1203
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Why don't Democrats one two? Why do they want why

1204
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: do they want to rush through this? We have plenty

1205
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: of time, and we got two more weeks until the

1206
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: electoral College meets. We got six and a half weeks

1207
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: until until inauguration. So let's get to the bottom of everything.

1208
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: Because something doesn't feel right. And when you have seventy

1209
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: percent of the seventy four million people who voted for

1210
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: President Trump, seventy percent of that number think that something

1211
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: was wrong with this election. That's a third of the electorate.

1212
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: When a third of the electorate thinks something's wrong, it

1213
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: is it is good for the country that we figure

1214
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: out exactly what happens. Well. The President said in his

1215
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: interview with Maria Bert to Romo that if the Electoral

1216
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: College decides that it's Biden, he will abide by that.

1217
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Um and I don't know if I want to go

1218
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: there yet. I think this process needs to play out completely.

1219
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: You know. I guess if there's a level of frustration

1220
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: to meet Jim Jordan is that they've been accumulating these

1221
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: half of Davids. Why haven't we heard from the people

1222
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: themselves directly sooner? It's a month later. Yeah, Well, I

1223
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like you, I wish we would. I'm

1224
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: like you, I want this. I wanted to exhaust every

1225
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: avenue that we can and get to the truth. I

1226
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: do believe we're going to begin to hear from these folks.

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: I certainly hope so. Um, but um, you know, remember

1228
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: those Sean, Remember the lady in in in Detroit, Michigan

1229
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: and Wayne County when she was going to hold off

1230
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: on certifying the elections from that county. Remember what the

1231
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: left did to her, what the cancel culture mob did

1232
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: to her and into her family. So obviously some of

1233
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: these people are are a little nervous. And as you

1234
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: pointed out, it used to be that that, you know,

1235
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: people in Democrats and Republicans supported whistleblower was coming forward.

1236
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: But now no, that's not the case with Democrat The

1237
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: only whistle blow they supported was the one that we

1238
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to know his name right on that one

1239
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: that was not even a real whistle blower. Wasn't it

1240
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: a hearsay whistle blower? Yeah? Exactly, exactly right. So yeah,

1241
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: but but my guess is that's some of the reluctance

1242
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: on some of these some of these people who signed

1243
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: affidavit and want to testify the thing, they're a little

1244
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: nervous about what the what the cancel culture mob on

1245
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: the level due to them. No, look, I mean you

1246
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: lived this every single day. Um, do we know how

1247
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: many House seats were picked up by Republicans in this election? Yet?

1248
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Have we ever got in the final number? I know

1249
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: all twenty seven toss up races went Republican. Ye, looks

1250
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: like we're going to get to two hundred and thirteen.

1251
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: I believe the number're going to get to. As you saw,

1252
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: Mike Arcio was just named the winner yesterday in that

1253
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: California See David Valadeo won back to Seatret leaz Eldon

1254
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: won his race. That was done today too. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1255
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: so so I think he won by forty thousand votes.

1256
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: Why are we even here? But Okay, that's a congressional race.

1257
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: But ut so two thirteen, what's the margin the so

1258
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: they got they have five votes, and remember they had

1259
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: ten people, ten people who who are one reelection who

1260
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: voted against Pelosi for speaker. So we'll see what happened.

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: My guest is she she figures out some way to

1262
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: to you know, stay a speak going onto power. Yeah,

1263
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: they can. They can only lose a few votes on

1264
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: the on the House floor that on on important issues,

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Speaker 1: and so it'll be an interesting U interesting? Uh is

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Speaker 1: there any chance that the squad members could win that seed? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't mind when the Democrats are fighting.

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Speaker 1: I figured the more they're fighting, the less they're trying

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Speaker 1: to take away your rights and your your liberties. So, um,

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Speaker 1: if they got all this in finding going on between

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Speaker 1: the squad and between Speaker Pelosi and other members of

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Speaker 1: their conference, I mean, that's fine because that's in the

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Speaker 1: long run, that's good for the country. Less time for

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Speaker 1: less time for them to do damage and raise your

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Speaker 1: taxes and all the other crazy things they want to do. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: when you we're looking at like a nine seat difference

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Speaker 1: then between Democrats and Republican I mean that's really close

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Speaker 1: by Every state legislature was held as well, which also

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Speaker 1: brings up you know, again, there's so many spectacular first,

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Speaker 1: don't you find it odd? Jim Jordan? If you when

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Speaker 1: you look at all of the statistics and numbers that

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Speaker 1: were now being able to put together, and you know,

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Speaker 1: this is just the nature of elections. You don't find

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Speaker 1: out a lot about it until till laughter. But when

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Speaker 1: you look at all of this, you know Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to enter the White House as the first incumbent to

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Speaker 1: gain votes the president. Trump will gain eleven million votes

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Speaker 1: but lose the election since Grover Cleveland one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty years ago. Right, And then then you look at,

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Speaker 1: for example, he won your state by eight points, Florida

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Speaker 1: by over three points. The two swing states weren't even close.

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Speaker 1: That would make Biden the first candidate in sixty years

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Speaker 1: to lose Florida and Ohio and still become president. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: bell Weather counties that all correctly picked the president each

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Speaker 1: year since Reagan eighteen were Trump by an average of

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent. If you look at Biden underperformed Clinton and

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Speaker 1: Obama and major liberal cities with minorities New York, Chicago, LA.

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Speaker 1: But outperformed Clinton and Obama in swing state cities like Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and Philadelphia. Is that an accident or just a great

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Speaker 1: lucky coincidence for Joe. Yeah, all the while, while while

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Speaker 1: President Trump was getting a higher percentage of African American

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01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: vote in Hispanic American vote, and yet somehow Biden does

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: so exceptionally well in some of these key urban areas

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Speaker 1: in some of the key swing states. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean the Bellweather counties that, as you pointed out, the

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Speaker 1: Ohio going by over eight points for the president. Ohio

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Speaker 1: the state that always over the last several years, I

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Speaker 1: think he said sixty. But it's the state that you

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Speaker 1: have to care if you're going to win the White House,

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: and the president carries it by a huge margin. So

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Speaker 1: all those things together, when you just list them all out,

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: you would sink. And there was a great arkland the

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Speaker 1: Federals that put in some of the things out you

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Speaker 1: were talking about, and the headline was why won't it

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: media do the ask the questions about this? I mean

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Speaker 1: that's the job of journalists. You see all these strange

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Speaker 1: things and something tells you why, why did this all happen?

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Speaker 1: And yet somehow Biden wins the White House. It's never

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Speaker 1: happened in history before. We've never seen anything like this,

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Speaker 1: So that should tell us something that there needs to

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Speaker 1: be an investigation. It is. We've actually called from one

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Speaker 1: We've called for Jerry Naddard and Sherwin Maloney of the

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Speaker 1: Oversight community just to do an investigation. We'll help them

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Speaker 1: with it. We'll help them, we'll begin to find outach

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Speaker 1: what happened. Of course, we've gotten silence from from both

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01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 1: of those chairmans. You know, I saw that you warned

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Speaker 1: on Friday that the Left is going to target Christmas

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: next after Thanksgiving. I think the funniest viral video in

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: New York that was going around everywhere was a picture

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01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: of Governor Cuovo peering into people's homes and through the window.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many accounting how many people might

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Speaker 1: be at the Thanksgiving Day dinner. Now, obviously we have

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Speaker 1: a big wave of corona around the country. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: think most Americans understand what social distancing and masks are.

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Speaker 1: I think you have a greater risk. All these kids

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Speaker 1: tend to be asymptomatic and many are not getting tested

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Speaker 1: and they come home to mom, dad, grandma, grandpa. That's

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: a danger I hope everybody takes seriously. But I also

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: get the impression that Americans that they have they are

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01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: going to make their own risk assessment after a year.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's pretty well informed on this, of course,

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01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: because we're Americans. There's one fundamental thing about Americans. We

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: hate being told what to do. It's part of our DNA.

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: You know. The old joke always comes to mind for

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Speaker 1: most Americans when they're traveling down the highway and you

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: see the signs in this fifty five miles per hour.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,839
Speaker 1: For most Americans, that's not the limit. That's the challenge.

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Speaker 1: So that that's just how that's just part of who

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01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: we are and our heritage people coming here to settle this,

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Speaker 1: this this great country. So now you've got governments. Government.

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Speaker 1: Think about this. In Ohio, you have to be in

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Speaker 1: your home at ten o'clock. In Pennsylvania, when you're in

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Speaker 1: your home, you have to wear a mask. But in Vermont,

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: when you're in your home, you don't have to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask because you're not allowed to have friends over

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Speaker 1: to your home. Government. That's what government is doing too

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Speaker 1: Americans telling them how they have to behave in their

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Speaker 1: own home, their own property. And if you don't think

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Speaker 1: that kicks a lot of Americans off, then this is

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01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: craziness what we're doing. The crazy rules Gavin Newsom had

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Speaker 1: for for Thanksgiving, oh my goodness, you could be you

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Speaker 1: had to be outside, but outside was defined as you

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: could have a rough and you could have three sides,

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: so you can really be in your garage with the

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Speaker 1: door up, but they call it outside. You can only

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Speaker 1: be there for two hours. I mean, it was rid dick.

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Speaker 1: You could have the only three households, so you and

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Speaker 1: your you and your your family, your mom and dad,

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Speaker 1: and your brother's family could be there for Thanksgiving. But

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Speaker 1: you and your mom and dad, and your brother's family

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Speaker 1: and your sister's family couldn't be there for Thanksgiving. This

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Speaker 1: is just ridiculous, and Americans have had it with the

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Speaker 1: crazy rules, especially the fact that these people make the

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: crazy rules and then they don't follow it. My question is,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we don't fix this, we never win

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Speaker 1: another election. I'm worried about Georgia right now. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I am too. M We got two good syndicatedates there.

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Speaker 1: We gotta do everything we can to make sure they win.

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: But you're right, we got to stop this vote by mail.

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01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: You can't just be you can't and you gotta you can't.

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: You can't have states do what Pennsylvania did just change

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Speaker 1: the rules at the last minute and they have all

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Speaker 1: these rules in place. You had the legislator passed the law,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the state Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of hacks on the court, along with the

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Speaker 1: Democrats Secretary of State and the Democrat governor, they go

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Speaker 1: and change the rules at the last minute and do

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Speaker 1: this massive mail in voting concept. So that's the big problem.

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Speaker 1: We called this and we did a report, mister Colemer

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Speaker 1: and I and our staffs on the two committees, and

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01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: unfortunately it played out. And you know it was just

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Speaker 1: a few years ago. Even the New York Times are saying,

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Speaker 1: you can't do massive mail in voting. The potential for fraud,

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: the potential for problems is so huge. So we've said

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Speaker 1: many times on if you can protest in person, you

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: can vote in person. Let's vote in person unless it's

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01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: absentee where you specifically request the Board of Elections knows

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Speaker 1: who you are. Knows where you live, knows you're actually

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Speaker 1: a real voter, and it's done that. How about voter ID,

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: just like you need to get in the DNC. How

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: about signature verification, that's real. Yeah, we have both in Ohio.

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01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: We in Ohio, the state the presidents have won by

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: eight points, the Bellwether state we have. You have to

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: present your ID when you vote, you have to sign

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01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: so there's a signature match. We only have absent see

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01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: that you request for and it can only happen in

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01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: that thirty day window prior to So we have the

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01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: kind of system in place that makes sense, that is actually,

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, not fraught with this potential for fraud. So

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Speaker 1: that's how we have to do it. But these states,

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean here and here, I've got a role book,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jim Jordan, We're gonna hit the phones when

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Speaker 1: we get back. Thank you, sir,