1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome to 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast presented by by Star. And I'm 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: excited about this week's guest because it's a guy who 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: has been around the NFL a long time. He has 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: to me a very unique and obviously an important role 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: on this coaching staff. It's Jaguars quarterbacks coach Mike McCoy 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and Mike, I appreciate you join us today. Thanks for 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: having me. Uh, first question, as I'm preparing for this, 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: I kept going back to why now. You've been out 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: of the league for a couple of years. You obviously 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: have a wealth of experience in the league, probably could 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: have gone in to different places. Why here? Why now? 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Why the Jaguars. Well, first of all I'd like to 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: say is the last couple of years, Um, I wouldn't 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: trade for anything. And this is kind of a little 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: shot out to my wife and my kids, is that, 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, as a football coach, there's a huge commitment 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: to the organization, to your team, to your players, to 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: the fans, and you miss a lot of things with 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: your family, you know, the weekends being on the road, traveling, UM, 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for the draft. There's so many 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: things that happened during the year, especially as a head coach, 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: that I've missed so many things. And the past couple 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: of years of time I've spent with my family. I mean, 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: I've got a Hall of Fame wife and Kelly, she's 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: the best. You know. I've been very successful in this 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: business and I couldn't have done it without her. UM. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: And then my kids live who's a senior at the 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: University of Arizona, my son's a sophomore in college and 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: living in San Diego. UM. To be able to do 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: the things with them, UM, you know, the Dad's Weekend 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona, all the things I've done with Luke. UM, 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: it's just been I've had a time in my life 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: doing that with them. But as each year has gone 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: on and they know this, UM, I've got a little 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: antsie each year. The first year was easy, and then 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: next year it was kind of like, hey, we've got 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: to get back into it. And then you know, an 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: opportunity like this came up. UM. Having known Doug for 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: a long time, UM, and the type of coach he is, UM, 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: the type of leader he is to be able to 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: work for somebody like that, it was a great opportunity 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: to come in and um, you know, to see an 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: organization that has a quarterback like Trevor, the opportunity to 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: work with someone who's so talented as he is, young 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: in his career. It was just a great opportunity to 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: work with good people. UM and Dougs done a great 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: job of putting a great staff together. So we've enjoyed 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: our short amount time we've been together so far. I 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: want to assume that that is a conversation you've had 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: with Doug, who sort of had the same opportunity last 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: year to be away from it for a while. Uh. 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of coaches, and there are 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: coaches who get into it at twenty and I retire 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: at sixty five and never have that opportunity. So that's 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: pretty unique. Both of you guys are coming off of that. Yeah, 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, you you always want to, um, you know, 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: take the right job when you look at certain things, 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: you look at it to just take any job, to 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: take the right job. And when Doug first called me, um, 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, and and talk to me about possibly joining 63 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: him this year, you know, I was so excited to 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: be able to get back to work with someone like 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Doug Um, someone like I've mentioned before, I've known for 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: a while. Um he's been very successful both you know, 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: one Super Bowls as a player and as a coach. 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: The type of person he is, I knew it was 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: just a great opportunity that it couldn't pass up. How 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: does UH you know I haven't been a head coach. 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: You see things almost from above sometimes that you don't 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: see as an assistant. Um, how that shape you as 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: a coach in general, and how will it help you 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: in the position of quarterback coach? Well, I was very 75 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: fortunate when I was the head coach in San Diego 76 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: that I had Ken wasn't Hunt on my staff a 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: former head coach. Um. There's so many things that come 78 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: across your desk when you are the head coach that 79 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: you know you always want to run some things by 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: at times. Other people had experience of being a head 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: coach and not everyone's done that, so things come up. 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: So if there's ever anything I could do to help 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: uh anybody in the organization with anything with my experience, 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: I think I'd be a great asset to the organization. 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: And I think throughout all the years that I've coached 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: in different roles, from the quality control days, quarterback days 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: in Carolina, to the coordinator days, the head coaching days, 88 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of everything. So, um, I've 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: seen the good and the bat one a lot. There's 90 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: been a lot of great season, there's been some tough seasons, 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: and part of you know, some season you kind of 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: start looking around, going you know, what is going on? 93 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: How do we change these things? And then to the 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: rewards of turning organizations around. Um, So I think you know, 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate to be around some great players 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: and some great coaches into learning. I think you take 97 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: we all kind of look back over your career and 98 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: you take a little bit from each person you've been around, 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: both players and coaches, and figure out in today's position. 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: You know, how can I be the best coach for 101 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and help this team be great? How 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: did we hunt uh help you the most? Well, there's 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: a certain thing. You know, you've become a head coach 104 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: for the first time, hime, and you think you have 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: this great plan and then all of a sudden, something 106 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: comes across your desk and you're like, wait, hold on 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: a second, or then you play a game, right, Well, yeah, 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: we haven't been playing in games yet, and all these 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: things are coming across. I've got to answer this question. 110 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: You know, isn't the PR Department's supposed to take care 111 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: of that. Well, you're the head coach. You need to 112 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: help us on this or uh, you know you look 113 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: in um when you're feeding the players, certain issues come 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: up with the food. The players come around and say, hey, 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: can we get this? Can we get that? And you know, okay, 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: well I'm the head football coach and you do. There's 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: so many are things that come up. So it's just 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: great to have somebody on your staff that's been there, 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: done that, um. And because you're always looking, you know, 120 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: what what is best for the football team. You know, 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: how can we help these players be successful? And that's 122 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: the number one thing what makes uh Doug such a 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: good head coach. And my theory is everything I've heard 124 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: about him is that his relationships with people and his 125 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: ability on that front is really high end. Uh do 126 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: you agree? And what else do you like about him 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: as head coach? Well, you're exact the right. You know, 128 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: he's a people person. You know, he's he's the head coach, 129 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: but he truly cares about each and every one of 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: us in this organization. You know, you see him talking 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: to everyone throughout the organization as you walk walk around here. Um, 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: the relationship he's gonna build with the players. You know, 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: he played for a long time, so I think as 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: the head coach and being a former player, when you've 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: been in their shoes and you understand what it takes 136 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: to be successful. Like I mentioned earlier about him winning 137 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in Green Bay, Um in the career 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: he had in his role, and uh, it's a people business. 139 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: And I think that the players, you know, you've got 140 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: to let them know that you truly care about them 141 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: as a person and not just as a football player. 142 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're going to do here. 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna get to know our players. You know, 144 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna work our tails off or we're 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: gonna have a good time doing it. And we and 146 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: we care about these guys. It's franchise, you know, last 147 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: couple of years has been through a lot of transition. 148 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Uh so there's been a lot of new regimes come in. 149 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: It struck me a second ago when you were talking 150 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: about this one that you like the makeup of this staff, 151 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: you like what's going on, what do you like best 152 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: about it? And what do you think is going to define? Uh? 153 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you just mentioned it the fact that you're all 154 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: people people and if you're trying to build a good culture, 155 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: But what do you like about the environment that you're 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: feeling being built right now? I guess what I'm getting at. Well, 157 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: I think one of the first messages we had, um 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: we first met the staff is hey, we're all in 159 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: this together. You know, I want every but you know, 160 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: we the first offensive meaning we talked about you know, 161 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: how everybody's gonna have their input. We're we're building our offense. 162 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: This is you know, it's our football team. It's not 163 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: just one. This is we all represent the Jacksonville Jaguars. 164 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: So we're gonna put this thing together. Um, we want 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: everyone's opinions. And then you know that you asked me 166 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: earlier about how my experience the past is going to help, 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: is that I understand that. Hey, listen, you know people 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: have certain roles, um, and when they want to bounce 169 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: certain things off me, it's it's easy for me to say, hey, 170 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: this is this is our role as a position coach. 171 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: There's coordinators, there's head coaches, there's people in the personnel department. 172 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Everyone has a role to do, and but everyone wants 173 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: to be open and you know, express your opinions on 174 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: how to do things when questions at the right time, 175 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: when questions are asked. And I think there's been great 176 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: communication on what our goals are and how we're gonna 177 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: work on a daily basis. Here can you be there 178 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: in the same fashion for Press as well? Press Taylor 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I assume, so no doubt. You know, Um, 180 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I've had great experience as a coordinator and my last 181 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: couple you know, we struggled as an offense and why 182 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and you know, how could you do things differently? What 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: would you do different And there's a lot of good 184 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: things that I've learned from both the good and the bad, 185 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and so there's a number of different ways of Uh. 186 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's done a great job of leading this 187 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: offense up to this point in time, and uh, he's 188 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: got a bright future ahead of him. UM as a coordinator. 189 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: So it's been a lot of fun, um and we 190 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: had a good time in the meeting so far putting 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: this thing together? Is this? You know? And it's always 192 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: so tough. You talk about schemes because uh, so much 193 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: is drawn from everywhere in the NFL these days. But 194 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: do you is this scheme uh? I mean Doug Peterson scheme. 195 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Is this something that you run before, worked with before? 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: Are you coming into it new? How does that work? Well? 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: I think really varying degrees? I get that. Well. Yeah, 198 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: when you look at football, I think everybody there's a 199 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: lot of similarities, you know, to certain systems, and you know, 200 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: you call things a certain way, you have different protection rules. 201 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, what what is your philosophy going to be? 202 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: And how are you going to protect certain plays? Um? 203 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: And then you know the terminal. You know you're gonna 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: have a curl flout combination. We're gonna call it something 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: you're always gonna teach players how to read it. Um. 206 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: But then it becomes I think the great thing about 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: the system that Dougs run and what we're trying to 208 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: implement here is that it's gonna be very player friendly. 209 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: It's gonna be flexible. We're gonna try to take advantage 210 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: and do what our players do best. And it's gonna 211 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: change from week to week. Um, you know, but we're 212 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: still building that. So you know, we're in the early 213 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: stages of putting this all together. The players have only 214 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: been in there a couple of days. Um, we haven't 215 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: been on the field with them at all. So you're 216 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna learn over time as we get in the off 217 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: season program, as you when you once you go out 218 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: there for that voluntary camp, you get in the phase 219 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: two part of things. We're gonna learn what our players 220 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: do best. Um, and then you know, come training camp, 221 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: you start picking it up a little bit. You get 222 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: in the preseason games and as you go, um, you 223 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: look at certain things they say that this may not 224 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: be us. This may be something that we've done somewhere 225 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: else that was very successful for these guys in Philly, 226 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: but it's not what we do. And you know, or 227 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: you look at the quarterback. You always want to look 228 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: at your quarterback first and say, you know, what are 229 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: trevor strengths? You know, how do we want to build 230 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: this thing around Trevor and figure out, Okay, who do 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: we have surrounding them? You know, Um, the guys up front, 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, the run game we're gonna install here what 233 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: do we do best? And it's all about players. So 234 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be very flexible and adjust from week to week. Um, 235 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: not only with our team and our offense, but who 236 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: are we playing. What are their strengths? You what of 237 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: their weaknesses? We're gonna attack those things and uh, you know, 238 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: we got a long ways to go. Is the building? 239 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: The building process is fascinating because it's fancy it on 240 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the field, but they never get a chance to see 241 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: what you guys do in a room. Is the building 242 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: of an offense just as simple as you get five 243 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: or six offensive coaches in a room and you start 244 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: putting stuff on a whiteboard or is that and then 245 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,479 Speaker 1: taking things off that you don't like. Well, I think, um, 246 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: it comes down to number one organism or offensively, what 247 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: is our philosophy gonna be? And I think, um, Doug 248 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: and Press I probably had a number of conversations over 249 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: the years, um and having worked together of what this 250 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: offense was like in Philly. And then I think every year, Um, 251 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you look at things at the end of the year, 252 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and obviously Doug was out last year, so he had 253 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: plenty of time to look at what he had done 254 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: in the past, whether regards to where you've been UM 255 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: and as you watch the league changed from year to year, 256 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: you kind of say, Okay, how can I take this 257 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: for certain organizations and implemented in our system? And it's 258 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: hard to have time to do that when you're going 259 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: to the next season. And I think that's one thing 260 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: when I look back the past couple of years to 261 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: be able to really look um at a number of 262 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: teams and study certain teams and follow you know, certain 263 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: coaches that I've worked with or that worked for me 264 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: when they've moved on. Something like Frank Reich, what did 265 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: he do when he went to Indie? How did he 266 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of change or what additions did he make to 267 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: our system that we had built over the time we're together. 268 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's what kind of you every teams 269 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: every year you kind of look at it, Okay, here's 270 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: the foundation, this is who we want to be. And 271 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: then you look at okay, through free agency, through the draft, Okay, 272 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: do you still have that personnel to fit the scheme 273 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: you want to run? And then you know what type 274 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: of players do you have and what new wrinkles do 275 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: you take from other places or some things like hey, 276 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: you've always had in your system, but maybe you look 277 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: at it from last year and say, God, we didn't 278 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: run enough of this. So I think it's always evolving. 279 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: You're always looking to say, okay, what is best for 280 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: our team today? And listening to you just now, it 281 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: struck me that you may have taken and family time, 282 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: but you took some Sunday time too. Well. Yeah, you 283 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: know you learned that. I mean there was a couple. 284 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean even when I was still coaching, Um, those 285 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: car rides home, you know, now it became you know, 286 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I thought I was watching Sports Center. You know, my wife, 287 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: the comment she would make, or my kids a certain thing. 288 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: You know, my son would say, hey, dad, why did 289 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: you run this one? That's it's like, oh boy, I'm 290 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: in trouble now. If my wife, my son, my daughter, 291 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: and now my daughter was she was hey. She didn't 292 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: say a whole lot. She was always like, hey, great job. 293 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: She's very positive about everything, and hey you'll do better 294 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: next week, or hey great game. You know. But you know, 295 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: then she had a screen name on Twitter and possibly 296 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, hey, I don't know anything about that. I'm 297 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: the one person, uh, you know, I don't know how 298 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: to do a lot about social media. So good for you. 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm learning though, I'm learning the obviously we'll finish up. 300 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the quarterback. That's very one 301 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: to know about. You mentioned him early. Just give me 302 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: your first impressions or maybe what were your impressions about 303 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence before you started studying him up close. A 304 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: very talented player who had a ton of success, had 305 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: a great college career. UM, And I think if you 306 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: look at his rookie season, UH, typical of a lot 307 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: of young players, not just quarterbacks, but anyway, there's the 308 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: ups and downs. But I think, UM, our football team, 309 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: our organization, UM, Trevor individually, we're all gonna benefit from 310 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: it moving forward. UM. The experience and what he went 311 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: through his rookie season, UM is only going to help 312 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: him for his future, both good and bad. UM. There's 313 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of good things on film that you watch 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: and the things that he did well last year, and 315 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: then there's the mistakes that he made. UM. And I think, 316 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, we've had a lot of great conversations, you know, 317 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: early on the short amount of time we've been together 318 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: on you know, learn from it, I mean, learn from 319 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: all that experiences. There's a lot of great players that 320 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: struggled earlier in their career and it's a matter of 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: moving forward. How do you take advantage of those things? 322 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: And um, just learned from it. And you know you're 323 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna have young players come in the drafts coming up 324 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks. There's gonna be young 325 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: players we're gonna bring in. How do you help those guys? 326 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: As being the leader of this organization of how do 327 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: you help the young guys there? There's gonna be they're 328 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna struggle at some point in time. How can you 329 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: how can they benefit? When you sit down at lunch 330 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: one day and talk to him about, Hey, you know 331 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: what you know as a rookie last year, you know 332 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: I had a rough patch and here's how I got 333 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: through it, and here's how it's helped me this year. 334 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to learn from it. What have 335 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: your first conversations with him been, like, any made his 336 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of any first impressions, any thing that you said, Okay, 337 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: this is a kid we can clearly build around. Uh. 338 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting at is last year, Um, 339 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: he made it through some tough situations with remarkable poise 340 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and remarkable leadership didn't seem to break them. And it 341 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: seems like you're talking to a player that you get 342 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: that same impression from. I think any time you take 343 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: a job, you look at the organizational structure, great leadership 344 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: like we have here, UM with Mr Khan all the 345 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: way down. You look at the players. You look at obviously, 346 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: do you have that quarterback that you think is a 347 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that could be special? And we have a 348 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: quarterback that could be special. Um, he's got a lot 349 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: of work ahead of him. He understands that, we understand that. Um, 350 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: there's a reason why he was picked as high as 351 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: he was last year and where he went. Uh, he's 352 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: got a very bright future. UM. And I think the 353 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: thing I do. You asked me about what I like 354 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: about him. I love his attitude and his approached everything. 355 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's learned from last year and I 356 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: think he's he asked great questions in a couple of 357 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: meetings we've had so far. H It means something to him. Uh, 358 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: he understands his role in the organization. So it's an 359 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: exciting time for everybody, for our fans, for all of 360 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: us as coaches. You know what Trent and Doug have done, um, 361 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: the commitment ownership has taken to the free agency and 362 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: what we've done moving forward. It's an exciting time in 363 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: the draft coming up and where we're at. So we're 364 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: all really I had, uh, not just work with Trevor, 365 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: but to work with this entire football team. You've been 366 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback coach and a coordinator before, and a head 367 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: coach obviously, Uh in terms of relationship with a quarterback. 368 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: What's different between a NOC and a quarterback coach? Put 369 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: that into words a little bit. Well, really, I miss 370 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: um being in the room. And that's one of the 371 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: things when I, you know, the last couple of years, 372 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: when I really think about what do I want to 373 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: do next, and the opportunity just to get back in 374 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback room. I was very fortunate back in two thousand, 375 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: uh to be with Steve Berlin and yes, what you 376 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: know what a great not only a good football player, 377 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: but a better person. Be able to work with him 378 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: than I had Rodney Pete and some others, um, you know. 379 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: And then I was fortunate to work with Jake Delone 380 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: from two thousand three to two thousand and eight, and 381 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: to this day, I still vacation with Jake, one of 382 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: my best friends. UM, him and his wife carry their 383 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: kids are great people and so we had such a 384 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: great time and Caroline had just being in the quarterback 385 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: room every day. And then when I got to Denver, 386 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, you weren't. I was became a coordinator, and 387 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I you know, you were in the room. And but 388 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: as a coordinator, as a head coach, you have different 389 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: roles and you you're not. It's not just the quarterbacks. 390 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: And so being able to get back in that room 391 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, I'm coaching the quarterbacks. I'm excited 392 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: just to be in there every single day, um, you know, 393 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: organize the meetings and doing all those things. I was 394 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: very fortunate also though when I was the coordinator of 395 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the head coach to have great people underneath me to 396 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: where they were in that room. They were running that room. 397 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: But it's just gonna be I'm really looking forward to 398 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: just getting in the meetings, working with those quarterbacks, UM, 399 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: getting them better, doing all the drill works with them, 400 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting setting those bags out there and you know, 401 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: talking through all the progressions with them, and just day 402 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: to day working with the quarterbacks, UM that are on 403 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: our roster, really looking forward to get in the meeting 404 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: room with them and getting to know them and having 405 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: a good time. You had to come back, didn't you. 406 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was just a matter of time and 407 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: feel it just feels like you're back at the right time. Yeah, 408 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: And you know you always look at someone alone told 409 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: me it, don't just take any job, take the right job. 410 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: And you know, once I got that phone call from 411 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Doug a couple months back of just saying, Okay, hey, 412 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: this is this is an opportunity I might have, would 413 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: you be willing to possibly join this out? You know 414 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: you and you know I've been chomping out the bit 415 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: to get back in. It's just a matter of getting 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: into the right place with the right people. I think 417 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: it's it's critical to be around good people. This is 418 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: a people business. You want to work with good people. 419 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: So I couldn't tell you enough how excited I am 420 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: and for my family to be here and to work 421 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars and the people that are in 422 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: this building. Um, you know, for the short amount of 423 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: time I've been here, I love it. You know, it's 424 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for my family and I to work 425 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: for a great organization and UH to work with a 426 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: good football team and some great coaches, and to help 427 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Trevor and the rest of the organization do great things here. 428 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: And I think our fans should be extremely excited for 429 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: the future of our organization. Mike, I can't thank you 430 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: enough for taking time. I know you have draft preparation 431 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: and offense preparation going on, so it means a life 432 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: for you to join the Others One podcast. Thank you 433 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: very much. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.