1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and he walks and he turns broadside 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: and just like, all right, tank, whatever do you want 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: to take the shot? And I'm like, I don't like 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: that branch, so I go even lower and wider do 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: the same thing, and then he's at two forty five. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: So we end up shooting. He does a little kick, 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: slowly starts walking just like hit him again. So we 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: hit him again and we were I'm like hey, I'm like, hey, 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm out of bullets. He's like, I got one, so 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: he hands me another one. He's like, load it. We're 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: gonna walk up to the We let it sit there 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: for it. He's like, he's down. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: So he lent ten yards. He was toasted. 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, look having known what happened, yeah, pretty much. We 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: ended up, so he went. He did not go far 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: out here. The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness, 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: and skills needed to be ready when it is the 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: most Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: of wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: in the back country. This is in pursuit brought to 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: you by Mount Knumps in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt God 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Bless Texas. That's a great song. It's actually true. Man 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: just got off a free range access hunt range fence. 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: There's access deer everywhere down there. 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Man, it is such a fun Let me look that up. Actually, 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: it is such a fun hunt. 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: It's a great off season you know, like I guess 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: it is spring bear, but you know it is a 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: good ungulate off season hunt. Well you can do them 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: three six, five, I know, but like the prime is May, 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: June July. 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: I think they go around there right now. 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: It's well you're listening for rars yeah, bugle ru roar, right, yeah, 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking up how and when because I think we 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: were talking about I think it's the fifties. 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: They were introduced the sixties. Yeah. So the deal is 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: they the dose you will usually every three years they'll 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: throw four fawns, so it's not like the year where 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: it's one a year. They kind of can so it 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: keeps the bucks kind of running year round. Ish, Okay, 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: that's why you saw some like full hardhorned, some velvet, 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: some like growth. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: Velvet, and some they're all over the place. 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: It's so fun. So apparently that's why somebody on the 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Internet's gonna tellus biology of why and how we're wrong. 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: But that's from what I've learned the last two years 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: hunting them. 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: The spot in stock part to me was cool, it's fun. 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: I was totally prepared for like corn feeders and a 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: ground Oh yeah, oh really, yeah, I I. 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: When there's nothing wrong with that, I want to go 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: ahead and preface if that's the style of like we've 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: done that. We did that back in December, and I 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: had a blast because you see deer the in Texas 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: in Texas, and so it's like, yeah, I don't want 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: to knock on that style because hey, if that's what 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: you enjoy, if you enjoy fishing, why can you not 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: enjoy hunting over feet er. It's the same thing. I 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: don't understand the disdain for it. And as long as 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: you're not billing it as this, I'm going out for 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: this hard hunt and no, heck no, I want to 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: flink some arrows and and hang out with my buddies. 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: That's it. So this was not that, No, it was not. 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: We got on top of hills I call them hills. 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: They were low hills. They were low hills where you 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: can see far away. 69 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Me and Scott were talking and it was like the 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: perfect if you could elk hunt in that, how great 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: would that be. It's just like there's just perfect. 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: When you get on top of one, you can actually 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: feasibly get to the place you can see quickly, and. 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: You never really get like super leg burning. 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: You're just like I would say, they're almost punchy hills. 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even go with punchy. 77 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Man. It was like a gradual slow It was you. 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: Took three breaths and you were at the top, but 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: it was you could see just rocky. If you could 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: take the cactus out. 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I've still got some you could see. 82 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: You could seriously see just enough to where like like 83 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: what happened? I mean, we'll get there about like seeing 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: his deer, but you could see a deer and be Okay, 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: in about ten minutes he'll be over there. So I 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: need to kind of start working that way and maybe 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: I can cut them off like that was. You could 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: make those plans to that point. 89 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Though. The hard part was it's like a maze of 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: scrub brush. There's a bunch of patches between and so 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: as soon as you lost any elevation at all, You lose. 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: You Yeah, he lost them and was amazed at that point. 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: You're an amazingly elabyrinth. Ye. Yeah, and so yeah, it 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: takes some skill for sure, knowing the property. That was 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: the first time we hunted that property. I think lease 96 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: if you hunt in the Midwest or south like we 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: were on a couple of thousand acre lease, low fence 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: like cattle fence. There were sheep, goats, yeah, moo cows everywhere. 99 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: And then the deer. We literally watched probably what twenty 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: or thirty deer. Scott just frolic back and over the 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: fence for two or three hours, just doze, just back 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and forth over the fence. And then a fawn that 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: got stuck on one side of the fence and couldn't 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: figure it out and it was panicking, looked like a 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: small dog. It was. 106 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: I well, I want to give it backs around accident 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: deer because I was interested in this. They're introduced, they're 108 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: from India, they're introduced. 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: To Texas, India and Sri Lanka. 110 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does, that's right. Ran nineteen introduced 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: in nineteen thirties for private ranches and then from there 112 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: obviously they just got out and then now they're I mean, 113 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: I would almost consider them. 114 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: There's how many. 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: There's estimated one hundred and over one hundred and twenty 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: five thousand animals concentrated in like a certain area of Texas. 117 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Still there no non native invasive so you can hunt 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: them year round. You could technically hunt them with anything, spotlights, 119 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: you can do. Whatever we did, the like what you 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: would call traditional hunting. Some down total. 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: Their meat is wildly considered some of the best tasting medicine. 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: It's very good. 123 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have taken it with bow or rifle, 124 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: bow or rifle. 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I carried a bow for two days and then took 126 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: the long bow. Yeah, the long bow, the three hundred 127 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: grain long bow rceiver variety. Yeah. So yeah, it's I mean, 128 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: if you if you had a week, ten days, you 129 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: could get one done with a bow. I think you'd 130 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: have to watch patterns, you'd have to try to figure 131 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: out where they were going, all that type of thing. 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: But a three we were in a three day hunt. 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: Shout out Prenier Outfitters if you ever want to do that. 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a very fun, affordable ish hunt for 135 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: It's not a crazy crazy. 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: I would say it's on the lower end of yah 137 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: of budget or of night. 138 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: It's like thirty eight dollars. And then you pay the 139 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: guide fee and. 140 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: They feed you, they lodge you, they put you up, 141 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: they bring you in and out of the ranch. They 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: do a good job. 143 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a ton of fun. 144 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: And then I mean, I obviously can't speak for Jeff, 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: but obviously Jordan was great, was great, really good hunter. 146 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: So we'll have helm on later. Jordan wants to get 147 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: on there. I know he doesn't like cameras, but we're 148 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: talking to him about in his stream for killing stuff, 149 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: killing stuff in Texas. Yeah, but Jeff's killed a bunch 150 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and around and he loves it. 151 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 3: So it is interesting that I'm not following a single 152 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: rud like that's so weird compared to what we're used to. 153 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: I think they say traditionally made June July is optimal. 154 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what Jordan said too. 155 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: But half of them are in one cycle, half of 156 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: them on the other. 157 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: It was just like you said, certain dough like dose 158 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: are like every four years, roughly three or four years. 159 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: They're fours every year, four every three years. 160 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, that's so yeah, so it's basically nine month 161 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: is I'm guessing, and I'm guessing the the does that 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: come into heat are probably on a different cycle too, 163 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: like a three year cycle like this one. Like if 164 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: there's three does in a in a you know, in 165 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: a herd, this one maybe year one, this one maybe 166 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: year two, This one may be year three. So like 167 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: in that herd, there may be one every year. So 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: there's so that would explain why they're kind of running 169 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: all the time totally why others. 170 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: So it's just it's just interesting. 171 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: It's not like it's not like white tail because like 172 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: the things that I think of a white tail, elk 173 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: and turkey all follow a season like mating, a mating cycle, yeah, 174 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: a yearly mating cycle, and then uh well but turkeys 175 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: kind of think I think it's happened in the fall too, 176 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: which is funny, you ever hear. I'm like, they'll goble 177 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: just because the weather. Yeah, like the weather makes them think, 178 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: oh game odd time, and the heads are like the 179 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: hell's wrong with you? 180 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 181 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: It was definitely very either late rifle elk e or 182 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: mule deer like E. 183 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not really hunted mule deer. I've been on a 184 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: couple of guys are hunting mule deer. But we were 185 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: in that second season last that's the first time I'd 186 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: ever even thought about helping out with mule deer. So yeah, 187 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: it makes a complete sense. 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hike up at the top, you find him, 189 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 4: you calculate your stock, you go out and do it. 190 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: And man, if you can get down to Texas and 191 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: do that a couple of times a year, maybe once 192 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: a year on the off. 193 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Season, keeps you fresh, for sure. 194 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: That would be an awesome way to get you know, 195 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: just increase your skill for sure. 196 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. I was thinking about this 197 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: because when white tails, obviously, when white tails are running, 198 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: they are fighting. They're all running, they're all fighting, so 199 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: like is it is there like a hard horn buck 200 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: and then there's like a velvet buck and the velvet's 201 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: like whoa, bro, Like, what are you doing? You're like 202 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: if they don't have any you know how they they 203 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: just yeah, they just flipped that. They just flipped that switch, 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: and they're like their test osterer starts pumping and the 205 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: and like the other ones that have velvet still like, bro, 206 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why you're fighting me, right? 207 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know it, must be so confused. They just 208 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: run them off and they're like, all right, books just 209 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't want it. 210 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: They wouldn't. They would run away like, yeah we did 211 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: hit you videos. Why this guy posturing? 212 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: But I never saw him in the wild fighting. We 213 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: did see two hard horn uh that group that you 214 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: guys end up finding that we killed one of them? 215 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Were there two of them in that group? 216 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Because we saw we only saw a half grown Okay, 217 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: so the day before that half grown was with two 218 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: hard horns. There were one big hard horn and then 219 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: like a slight. 220 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Wonder that one. I don't know, you got run off 221 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: a bit. I would almost guss, No, it was not 222 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: yours post. This was post that. It was post that 223 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: all right, So we can We end up driving down 224 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Trice played baseball at seven o'clock, so I 225 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to miss that. Thanks everybody for being a 226 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: part of that PM and so we which I think 227 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: is the best way to do it. If you can 228 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: get somebody to. 229 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: Time, you have someone that's gonna willing to drive that 230 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: like five hour. 231 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: The real hero, the real hero of the trip. 232 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: So we took off. I drove us to Memphis, Watkins 233 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: drove us eight hours through the night and then I 234 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: picked up the last four. We rolled into camp about 235 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: one o'clock PM the next day. That afternoon, I think 236 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: three or four we went out. Did you guys stay 237 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys stayed on ranch property there. So 238 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: there were two properties we could hunt a couple thousand 239 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: acres on each, yes, leases that they have. 240 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: We just went down the county road a little bit, 241 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: looked for stuff to like get us a start. Didn't 242 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: really see anything. So then we just kind of drove 243 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: out to a spot where we could glass from and 244 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,479 Speaker 3: got to a place of glass. 245 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: And really didn't see much. 246 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: It was pretty bad. 247 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: The wind was bad. 248 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: We kind of got Yeah, we got to a spot 249 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: where we could glass, so, I. 250 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Mean we saw animals. 251 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: We didn't see any access to dere so then on 252 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: the way back we saw some and then we got 253 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: to a spot where kind of sat that for the 254 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: last hour ish of light. 255 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: Guaranteed. 256 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, we kept heard Jordan ship. He's like, I guarantee 257 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: he's gonna come by here and he goes to watch 258 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: and I say that I'm not gonna see anything. 259 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: Guaranteed. 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were here yesterday, Yes, yes. 261 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Them, what else? This is crazy? 262 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: This is crazy. 263 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,239 Speaker 1: It's never been like this. Yeah, this weather couldn't possibly 264 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: be warm. That's a classic. That's a classic. 265 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: It's always a weird year when we're. 266 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: A weird year. Man, this is a weird year, Jordan's 267 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: this is not these guys. This is just your classic. 268 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: We've hunted with some guides or with some guys that 269 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: no areas and whatever, and those are the classes fail. 270 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Those are all of the the man, the moon is weird. 271 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: These humidity, these bluebird skies are hurting us. 272 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: These clouds are not where they should be. 273 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Dude, it was. It is classic. You can almost It's 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: almost like when you were joking around like and you 275 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: show up and you're like, you got him untied for us. 276 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: You gotta let him out of the cage or what 277 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: you let the jokes on the rope forest dad to 278 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: a tree. We kept selling Jeff. We're like, all right, 279 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: we got enough v roll. It's time to time to 280 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: let him out of the cage. There's a plane or 281 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a helicopter flying over, like, is that where they're gonna 282 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: drop it? 283 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: You know that the hatchery. Let's go, Yeah, the best one. 284 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: I always love. I love using this one. Jordan, we 285 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 3: were sitting there and we were making fun of him 286 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: for saying you put us in a in a bad spot. 287 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: And I said, Jordan, this hunting spot is so good. 288 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: The deer don't know where. The deer can't even find it. 289 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 290 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: See our first evening, we saw a couple, but nothing 291 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: crazy was your first. 292 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: We went to the other property. Uh we Scott got 293 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: Scott got his nickname that morning that day we were 294 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: walking in and he is trying out the new Garman 295 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: Watch and uh he went to start. 296 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: A track, a track, a tracker, a tracker. 297 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: And it beeps, no big deal, but every like thirty 298 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: forty five seconds it would do another beep. 299 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like a I think I was causing 300 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: the beeps on hind s. 301 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: It sounded. It sounds like the Mario, like punching a 302 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: coin box. Yeah, that's what's it's it's hard to and 303 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: so it's but out there it's definitely loud. You can't. 304 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean in here really that but out there is 305 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: definitely loud. So Scott's trying to mess with it. Every 306 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: time he's messing with it, he's trying to it beeps. 307 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: He's like he's like, I'm gonna turn it off. I'm 308 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: gonna turn it off, and he's like, no, no, I'm not. 309 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: And so like we're fighting over the watch because me 310 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: and Scott are together all the time, so we're like brothers, 311 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: and we're like, I'm trying to like grab the thing 312 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: off of his wrist. I'm like no, no, push his 313 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: button and just just staying there. He's like, you two 314 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: are like you know. So then he's just starts calling 315 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Scott beeps. 316 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: And this wasn't five minutes into the hut. 317 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Five minutes into the hunt, and if you know, it 318 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: couldn't be far like, Scott's gonna be the most professional 319 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: in the group when it comes to distractions from media. 320 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Think there it is media things or just things making noise, 321 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: but Scott just it kept beeping there. It is so 322 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Jeff just started calling him beeps and it was I 323 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: don't know why, but it got me so good that 324 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: he just ate For the rest of the trip, Scott 325 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: was beeps. 326 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: Because it couldn't be further from who's guy. 327 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, That's why it's so funny. So then we 328 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: went up and sat buy some water with a annoyingly 329 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: loud windmills that would creep. It sounded like, you know, 330 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: a horror movie that you were about to get murdered 331 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: by the Texas Texas chainsaw massacre. And I ended up 332 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to sitting in. 333 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: A cactus, and this is how it happened. 334 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: And the cactus just it just never got better. I 335 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: had cactus in me. 336 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: From then on, the ones you can't see either like 337 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: they were like. 338 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: The First Man. And that first night Man, I I 339 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: was thought I had them all out, and then middle 340 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: of the night I would roll over and they would 341 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: like go from this way to this way, and it 342 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: would just point back in. It was miserable. So we 343 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: go up to the top of this hill glass a 344 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: little bit. We saw a turkey that was rotting. That 345 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: was pretty much that was it. We saw some two 346 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: doughs way. 347 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Off and I think the turkey was going. 348 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: He was a hammer. 349 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: We could have were we had something that were I mean, 350 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: we could have killed him probably anywhere. Really, anywhere you 351 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: they were, you heard him. 352 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: They were. 353 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: They were loud every day. 354 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: The first night was really uneventful. Probably, Yeah, it was 355 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: not fun, especially because the year before Man we were 356 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: seeing Deeer everywhere, and so year I was here, I 357 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: was like, can we just go back to the other ranch. 358 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: The weird thing was to what you would think is 359 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: when we went out that night it's too hot and sunny, 360 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: that they're going to be shut down. Turns out they 361 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: liked that. 362 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: Weather, so that's what they kept saying. 363 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: Next that night should have been great, and. 364 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: That next day should have been in inredible because it 365 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: rained bad. 366 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: The next day well, because of the range. 367 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: It should have been good like normally oh yeah, yeah yeah, 368 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: like normally with elk elk cools. 369 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: Down they want to be moving. 370 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, traditional It wasn't raining. 371 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: It was raining enough to annoy us, but for them 372 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: it would have been like perfect. 373 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 374 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: And so that next morning it just it rained and rained. Well, 375 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: as we're walking in well, we hear Angelo's bow. He 376 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: needs to have worked one because it was really loud. 377 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: I got suppressor on it. 378 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Were we go to the same morning day two, right, 379 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: we go to the same fifteen. 380 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: Minutes, you guys go to the same ranch. We're going 381 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: to the same ranch. 382 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: There's there's a little there's a little ridge line between us, 383 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: like it's like the hill line, like it's and uh, Yeah, 384 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: they're on the other side of it. 385 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: We pull in. 386 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: Jordan tells us as we're driving in, he goes, hey, uh, 387 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: as we're driving in, and when you get out, be 388 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: quiet there there could be. 389 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: The already be on your a game like they're close. 390 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we're He's like, we're we're gonna hike up 391 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: to this little knob here and we'll be able to 392 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: see these two fields and we should see something and 393 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: then make a plan. 394 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, backup, back up, How 395 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: did the drive start? 396 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: What happened as soon as we start going. 397 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, his windshield wiper, one of his when chew wipers, flies. 398 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: Off, just flies off, completely random. And he's like, this 399 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: is how you know you live in Texas. Yeah, but 400 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: that that comes in very important later on the day. 401 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: Takes a turn, so we're driving in. He's like, be 402 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: quiet when you get out because we even though we 403 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: can't see him, maybe close. And we pull up around 404 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: one bend in the road and he glass. 405 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: He looks out. 406 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: You guys are on your window, and he goes, dude, 407 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: there's a bunch of deer out there. And he said, oh, 408 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: I think I see a big buck out there, and 409 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: I think that's the buck. Were like, I've been wanting 410 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: to hunt. 411 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 4: No, he goes in and I quote, that's a big 412 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: bucking away. 413 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 414 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, because if you've ever drove by deer like that, 415 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: like going to a spot, I've done this too. If 416 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: you keep driving, it doesn't freak him out. If you stop, 417 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: they'll all stare at you and wonder. You know that's 418 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: not normal. But if you keep driving, like, uh, road 419 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: trucks go down roads like that all the time, right, 420 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: don't think anything of it. Yeah, they'll go right back 421 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: to feeding. And so he did slow roll for a second, 422 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: but then just kept going. We went, you know, another 423 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: one hundred yards or so down and then we all 424 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: he the deer from there were probably one hundred two hundred. 425 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: And fifty off the road, yes, from the road there. 426 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: And then we went farther, so we were about two 427 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: fifty away from them. So we got out, got everything, 428 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: and uh, he's like, if that's a buck, I think 429 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: it is due we're shooting it. 430 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: And we're mad dashing like we're getting our stuff, and 431 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: we're like, this buck is right off the road. We're 432 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: gonna kill it right here right now. 433 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I mean that's exactly what we did. 434 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: We got the He brought his spotting scope, which people 435 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: will probably freak out over. He had his spotting scope 436 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: that I used as a tripod because we didn't want 437 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: to we didn't want to grab all this other stuff. 438 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: He just grabbed what we needed. We grab what we needed. 439 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: I grabbed the gun, He grabbed the tripod or the 440 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: spotting scope on the tripod, and Jeff had the camera 441 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: and we're and you know, we're selick. We're just going 442 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: it right in. 443 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: The most expensive stabilizer. Yeah, yeah, a double ey'd swow. 444 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: Luckily, there is a tree with a bush between us 445 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: and the deer, and so we just straddle that and 446 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: we walked right in through that line and Jordan's in front. 447 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: He pokes out and he said, that's you know, that's 448 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: the buck. He said, are you ready to shoot up? 449 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: We go, yeah, let's shoot it. And so he puts 450 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: his he puts his vortex spotting scope down. 451 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: It's Warski. 452 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: It was nice anyways, Uh, he puts his he puts 453 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: his spotty scope down. I lay the gun on it. 454 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: And as I'm laying the gun on it, the deer 455 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: walks behind the tree. I go, dude, I can't see him, 456 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: and so he picks it up. I picked the gun 457 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: up and we move over. I go, okay, there's a 458 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: good window. I see him. 459 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: He pivot left just a little bit and it's just. 460 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: Enough to where like when I had set when I 461 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: had set it down the first time, no nerves because 462 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: it happens so quick, no nerves, and then us moving 463 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: it over just enough time for me to start to 464 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: get the shakes, and we get over. I start to 465 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: get the shakes. These guys are like, why is he 466 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: not pull the trigger yet? I was just like I 467 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: was servious set trying to settle, and uh, he didn't. 468 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: And I had a lot of window, Like I had, 469 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: I could see him for a while. So it's like 470 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: if even if he takes a couple of steps, I 471 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: got him and he's grazing like he's not in a hurry. 472 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: So we were not thinking that. By the way, we like, 473 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: I know when I'm on camera, like I'm just supported 474 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: like forever. It just seems like forever. But I would 475 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: rather that than you, like, okay, here there he is. Yeah, 476 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: I want you to get settled in and comfortable. Because 477 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: shooters always think they don't have enough time. 478 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, usually more time than you think. 479 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: Always that's in my yes, from where I saw him. 480 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: Every time I've messed it up. 481 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: I had a I had a decent window where I 482 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: was going to continue to see him, and he had 483 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: no idea we were there. He was just grazing feet. 484 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: So I didn't really think to have a ton of 485 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: a ton of rush, pull the trigger, see him drop, 486 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: we all go nuts. 487 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Dude, like le I mean straight out like. 488 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: It's one hundred and twenty five yard shot. You were stable, 489 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: you were comfortable your gun. Yeah, that's like ey'd gun guys. 490 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Different trigger. Yeah, those are things that when I just 491 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: to preface when he brought the gun and I thought, hey, 492 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: at some point am I going to shoot this thing. 493 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: When we sat, I cleared the gun, made sure nothing 494 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: was in it, obviously away from people, and just dry 495 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: fired it to see what the trigger does. Because I'm 496 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: so used to a SIG where they I don't have 497 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: a custom trigger anything on them. There, no there's play. 498 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, you take a slack out 499 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: and you feel the wall and pull. 500 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: Kind of like a handgun. 501 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: Similar, and so I'm used to and this was this. 502 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: It was a gun works three hundred PRC and dude, 503 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: as soon as you pulled it, it was action. So 504 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: I say that to say, next time you're shooting somebody's gun. 505 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: No, what's funny is like they don't know the rest 506 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: of the story, but by the tone that we're using, 507 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: everyone knows, oh yes. 508 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you didn't ruin it. 509 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: The tone that me its obvious that the story is 510 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: going to kind of take a little bit of a turn. 511 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: Yes, So Angelo shoots the deer, drops immediately back down 512 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 4: socc of potatoes. Jordan immediately goes down right there. Yeah, 513 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: And I'm as the camera guy. I go from the deer, 514 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: he's down, nothing to record anymore, So I immediately pivot towards 515 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: you guys and where everyone's hooting and hollering. Jordan's stoked, 516 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: You're stoked. I'm stoked. 517 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: And we see your dose come around the corner. 518 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: And these guys, Yeah, then them, that's where Rich's loud bow. 519 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: It needs my boat needs tuning in. Like for a second, 520 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: I was like, what's he talking about? Like, oh, he's 521 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: there close enough to hear that we're shooting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 522 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: uh yeah, Like I I did have the boat with 523 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: me and I thought about I was like, man, there's 524 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: not I could make the I probably could have made 525 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: a stock. 526 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if we would have made a perfect 527 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: it might have been worth it. 528 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it would have it would have been successful, 529 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: but I do think we could have put It was 530 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: stable for sure. It was because there was a bushes 531 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: every now and then, and he was very not aware 532 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: that we were. 533 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 4: There, was just feeding like towards us. Yes, I feel 534 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 4: like we could have played it. 535 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: We could have. 536 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have went different. 537 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: I am not bow hunting purists by any means. I 538 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: like to hunt equal opportunity killer. Yes, I like to hunt. 539 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: I like to kill. 540 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: I like to eat the animals. 541 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: So if I had and I like hay friends. So 542 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: if I have an opportunity to shoot the rifle over 543 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: the bow, whatever, I don't care. So like the rifle 544 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: was the best option and the time, So I chose 545 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: the rifle. That's all there is to it. Uh So 546 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: we all kind of you want to use your term 547 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: that you keep using. 548 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: Uh No, we're all really excited. Yeah, we're all really excited. 549 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: We're talking. 550 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: We're just kind of like. 551 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: We're hyping each other up. But we're also like, what 552 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: do you do the second you kill something? You back off? Ye, 553 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 4: give it time. 554 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: That's what we did. 555 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: You don't want to pump it with adrenaline, like we 556 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: wanted to let it die, which we had already thought 557 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: it was dead at that point. 558 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: Yes, so we were just taking our time. Yeah, we 559 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: just stood there and talked for four or five minutes 560 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: about whatever. You know, Man, that was cool. I can't 561 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: believe it played out that way. You know, all the 562 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: normal stuff. 563 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: We were talking about. It's never this easy, yep. Like 564 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: it's you never find it right, you never shoot it 565 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: right out of the road. It's like this is crazy, yep. 566 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: And so we spent a few minutes talking and we 567 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: were like, all right, there's been enough time. Let's walk 568 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: up one to see that it is dead. Two, let's 569 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: get closer in case there is like a for like 570 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: you never know what a spike, a a spine shot 571 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: would drop. So you're just like, all right, let's just 572 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: go see, let's get close, let's go check it out. 573 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I like, I think our mindset was genuinely 574 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: let's start taking pictures. Like no, by no means that 575 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: we think there was any reason for any follow up 576 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: anything that's true. 577 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just wanted to get We just want to 578 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: get closer to the animal. And so we get over 579 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: to it, and as we're walking to it, it does 580 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: a little deathkick. Everyone's seen that little deathkick where there's 581 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: not much to it, but all four legs were moving. 582 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: This is important. All four legs were kicking a little bit, 583 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: and then they just kind of stop and he lays 584 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: right back down on the side like he's just totally 585 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: on his side the whole time. 586 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: He couldn't even think about getting up. 587 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: So I know that if he's spine shot, he won't 588 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: be able to kick his back legs. So I know 589 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: it's not a spine shot. So I know that, like 590 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: if there's a shot deer, I'm gonna shoot it again immediately, 591 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 3: I know that it can't move and I'm gonna kill it. 592 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: That is not the case, and so we hold back 593 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: a little thirty yards or so, yeah, hold back. We 594 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: glass it up, and we see a little bit of breathing, 595 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: so then we just stop. 596 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: We kind of get low breathing. 597 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of get quiet, and so we're like, 598 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: all right, just leave it alone. This is this is 599 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: how this is sometimes happens. They just slowly die. Anyone 600 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: who's hunting for a little while has seen that, even 601 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: with a rifle. So we just chill. And we continued 602 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: to chill for another eight minutes, yep, closer to the 603 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: deer and glassing every now and then towards the back 604 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: end of those eight minutes, we saw a little more 605 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: kick in it. And at this point we're like, Okay, 606 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: it needs a follow up shot, so let's let's go 607 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: ahead and do that. And the angle that we have 608 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: on it where I would have shot it the way 609 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: it's laying, I would have shot it through like the 610 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: upper back into his rib cage, but his head was 611 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: laying there, I would have shot through his head. So 612 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: we're like, well, I'd rather not shoot through his head 613 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: like I'd like the mount if possible. So we so 614 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 3: we move to a trophy. I am a trophy hun 615 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: her I like to kill, but big mature animals. 616 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: There should be no issue with that. 617 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: Big mature male animals that have spread their jeens plenty, 618 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: And so we make a little bit of a move 619 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: to get set up to shoot him. I shouldered the 620 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: rifle off safe, got one loaded, and he swivels around 621 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: and is now facing the other direction, and he's kind 622 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: of like propped up. 623 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: His back is towards you. 624 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, his back is towards us. And as I go 625 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: into the scope, he gets up and runs straight away 626 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 3: and nothing had ever happened, and Jordan's like shoot him, 627 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: and I like kind of trying to get him the scope. 628 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, he's running straight away, so I only have 629 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: a Texas heart shot or in Texas, I only had 630 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: that shot for a second. And then he gets lost 631 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: pine something and in my mind, I'm thinking that even 632 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: that is okay, He's probably gonna go fifty yards and 633 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: pile up again. 634 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 4: Like that's exactly what I was thinking. 635 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: The first thing that goes into my mind is it's 636 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: a liver shot. He is dying but not dead yet. 637 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: He'll go fifty yards and if we don't push him, 638 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: he'll lie there and just die there. So we kind 639 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: of one freak out. We're freaking I'm freaking out. Are 640 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: you freaking out yet? 641 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: I'm just like I'm in shock, Like I'm just like, 642 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: what in the world just happened? 643 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I've in shocked. I'm a little freaking out. 644 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I'm freaking out, but I'm also not 645 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: the hunter. I'm just the like the journalist camera guy. 646 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: I'm freaking out because I thought for sure he was 647 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: dead when he did the soil of a round. That 648 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: was enough to freak me out. And then when he 649 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: got up, I was like, what just happened? And so 650 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: he runs away. We track him a little bit. Find 651 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: good blood, red dark red blood with bubbles in it. 652 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: Yep. 653 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: So we're like, so this is before we watch the footage. 654 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm more confident that it is a liver lung shot 655 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: because of the dark red blood and yeah, oh no, no, 656 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: before yeah, before I saw it, I'm more confident that 657 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: has liver, long blood clipped some long got dark got 658 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: liver because of the color with the bubbles. 659 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: Find a good a good bit on a cactus. 660 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 6: On a full cactus, paddy leaf, Patty, I don't know 661 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: what it's called, your pad pad lily pad, And the 662 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 6: entire thing was filled with bubbly red blood. 663 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: And then the bush beside it had it on the leaves. 664 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: At this point it starts to absolutely pour, I mean 665 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: absolutely poor. We're two hundred yards from the truck and 666 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: we are soaked to the bone. 667 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: It was like, you know the I know this is 668 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: gonna be funny, but like this scene of the notebook, like. 669 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's horrid, Like do you want. 670 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: But like it went from zero to a hund and 671 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: we were all soaking wet within twenty seconds if it started. 672 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: All six of us. Really, yeah, you guys were out that. 673 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: We're like, we were wondering what you guys were doing 674 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: because I knew you weren't that close to your truck. 675 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: You guys are kind of wiped in. 676 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. So if you guys know, rain and blood trailing 677 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: do not go hand in hand, so cold dog. 678 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we go back to the trucks to the 679 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: call of dog. It takes about two hours to get there. 680 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: At this point, it rains off and on thunderstorms that 681 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: whole two hours we get there, all the blood we 682 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: had seen prior is gone. 683 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 684 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: I get Jeff said there's some type of hormone that's 685 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: released between their hooks. 686 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: I get shot that likes like adrenaline between their stuff. 687 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: That's what the dog is allegedly tracking. 688 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: I imagine that goes away. 689 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what for sure, that's what the dog tracker 690 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: kept saying. And I know he was just trying to 691 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: one back up his dog and to like talk to. 692 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: Us, because yeah, and angry kind of. 693 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: But if the blood washed away, it's just like if 694 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: there was paint there, if there was red paint there 695 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: and clear paint there, both paints are gone. You just 696 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: can tell that this one's gone. Uh So then yeah, 697 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: we call a dog, We track it. What we think, Yeah, 698 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: we think we tracked for two or three hours. I 699 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: think the dog kind of got lost and we found 700 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: some does. 701 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: He tracked some does. 702 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: We ran with some does for about two hours and. 703 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: Ran us up and around some hills. We did, we retried, 704 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: we restarted the track, retried. Yeah, and so we yeah, 705 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: we called it at that point. 706 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: So to parallel that, it also kept raining the whole the. 707 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Whole time, continue to rain while the dog was there. 708 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: So parallel this, Scott and myself and Jeff were walking 709 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: up this hill. We're here shot, We're like sweet, we 710 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of go over. We sit in glass for a second, 711 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: thinking we're gonna get a picture, gonna get a picture, 712 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna get a picture. And they're like, ah, you know, 713 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: like he was down blah blah blah, and we're like, 714 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: this is weird. You know, they're not sending us anything. 715 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, usually you get up some type of genitalia 716 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: picture or something, you know, and we weren't getting anything. 717 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, we're just sitting there in the rain. 718 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: And we sat there in the rain. 719 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: For what two hours probably, yeah, pretty much soaked. 720 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: My feet were wet for forty eight hours if not. 721 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I have trench foot still. And we sat under some 722 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: trees that did not provide any cover whatsoever after they 723 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: got saturated. And we walked around for another hour or 724 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: two after it stopped heavy raining, and didn't see a thing, right. 725 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: No, we didn't see anything that morning. 726 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Nothing, not a thing. 727 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw you, I mean we saw the dose 728 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: that yeah, I think with his groom. 729 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: First when he shot the does kind of peeled around 730 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: the side of the hill. 731 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: That was it. 732 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were leaving as the dog trayer came 733 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: in because it was like twelve thirty by them when 734 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: the dog tracker got there, like it had been a while. 735 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: Yep. 736 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: So we go back home and Angel worked out a 737 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: little bit while Jeff pulled up the video. We watched 738 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: the video and it was probably what four or five 739 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: inches in front of the shoulder, dead center on the neck. 740 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: To me, it's still like with a three D PRC. 741 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: So I think it either just send the customers the 742 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: same thing. 743 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, pretty much the same thing, but. 744 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Like either concussed him or yeah, like the stunned him 745 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: for a little bit and then he hopped up and gone, yeah, 746 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't understand I don't really understand it at all. 747 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: What everyone keeps saying is you can like the pressure 748 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: obviously obviously when you shoot a puercussion pressure. Yeah, the 749 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: bullet's small. I mean, I don't know bliss as well. 750 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: The bullet small. The bullet isn't what does all the damage. Like, 751 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: the concussion does a lot of damage. What I'm hearing 752 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: is that it went through meat on the neck. Their 753 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: neck is obviously thicker than ours. Meat on the neck, 754 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: and the concussion show the spine to where he like 755 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: was paralyzed for a second. Then when he was no 756 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: longer paralyzed, he got up. I don't understand it at all. 757 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: If I got shot in the neck, I probably would die. 758 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: Most things would. 759 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean we looked, you looked, watched the video kind 760 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: of assessed that he was either still alive. I mean, 761 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: you did everything you possibly could at that point. So 762 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: that afternoon you guys went and hunted with Jordan, the 763 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: hunt winner, which there were two Jordan's, two Jeff's, and 764 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: two Jakes at camp, and so you guys end up killing. 765 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: They did a nice stalk on a one. You guys 766 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: did some glass and for him and helped and did whatever. 767 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Jordan got his buck. They're from Michigan, so they actually 768 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: drove all the way back to Michigan. 769 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: They bounced. 770 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: They bounced the next morning. So that afternoon, me, Jeff 771 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: and Scott, against mine and Scott's better judgment, we went 772 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: back to the property again where we had not seen 773 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: anything you guys had shot, and so we hiked around, 774 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: got up on that nob. I guess it's not even 775 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: like it is a hill, but it's not whatever, and 776 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: so we glassed up what I think was the buck 777 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: that we ended up getting to the next day. But 778 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: we tried to make a play and get in front 779 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: of him, and he just did not cooperate. He was 780 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 1: just moving around. He was pushing some does and they 781 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: were a herd, and we. 782 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: Tough because there's not much elevation, so they can in 783 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: its thick brush, so they can get away pretty easily. 784 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: We basically saw him in one gap, some in another gap, 785 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: some another gap, and then didn't and then we. 786 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: Then we give to get position and he was coming 787 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: at us. 788 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he kind of just. 789 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: Went on a like slowly left left and just kind 790 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: of stayed on the perimeter of us where we couldn't seehim, 791 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: you could hear random roars. So we kind of called 792 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: it at that point and we're like, ah, let's get 793 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: back to let's get up high or see if we 794 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: can find him again. 795 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: Well, we wanted to see where he went and maybe 796 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: have a player for the morning. 797 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so we get up to the top and 798 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: we're walking by one of these brush I don't know, 799 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: little forests type thing. It's not it's you know, not 800 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: really big. It's probably what a thousand, five hundred square 801 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: feet of brush. Yeah, and where we hear noise commotion, Well, 802 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: then you hear antlers, but it's not your normal like 803 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: bust where they just get up and go. It was 804 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: like a labored get up up, like try to get up, 805 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: fall down, get up, fall down, get up, fall down, 806 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: get up. Ease out to the next set of brush, 807 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: and we saw some dough a dough well, we saw 808 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: the buck. We saw the buck, but we saw a 809 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: dough there too. That was just kind of doing whatever. 810 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: That's when Jeff like panic, gets a gun because he's 811 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: seen a buck. 812 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we just all hell breaks loose, all 813 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: Helm breaks loose. I grabbed the gun and the bow. 814 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: I think at some point we're running. Gun is not loaded. 815 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: We're running with the gun and trying to get in 816 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: position to get ahead of this buck. And in my head, 817 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's Angelo's buck. And if it's not 818 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Angela's buck, it's injured. Hopefully it's Angelo's buck. So Angela's 819 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: not stuck in purgatory anymore, and he can either have 820 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: his buck or you know, or I kill this buck 821 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: and then you can go on another buck. Because you 822 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: draw blood, you're you're stuck with that buck. And so 823 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: we tried what four or five different places along the 824 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: way that he would just run to the next set 825 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: of scrubs. 826 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: How far was he running, like between those fifty dollars, Yeah, 827 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: fifty yards. Maybe that's weird activity. 828 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Weird activity. You would think you bust something and boom, 829 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: they're going county. And so we we got close enough. 830 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Helm even like we got in this little brush, we 831 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: had an opening where if he ran, and he ran 832 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: right through that opening, but he ran not walk through it, 833 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: Jeff through a rock and it spooked him to the 834 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: next set. And then we just could not get on him. 835 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: If we had a pistol, you probably could have got 836 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: on it with the rifle. Dude. It was just hard 837 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: to hard to find him. And the western they got 838 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: western real quick. And then on the video, it's gonna 839 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: look like we had four hours left of daylight, but 840 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I could barely see through this. Well. 841 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Then we finally did bust him away out. 842 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he took off, So we dropped a 843 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: pin there for you guys to come back. And that 844 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: sets up your last day where you guys just looked 845 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: for him for about nine hours. 846 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 4: Just to backtrack a little bit, if you see a 847 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: wounded animal, you want to try to do yours for sure. 848 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: That that was the point. So we see they see 849 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 4: a wounded animal. As hunters, they're trying to do their 850 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: due diligence to you know, finish this. Sure. 851 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that it's not acting right, that it's 852 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: running fifty yards and trying to hide. Yeah, you know, 853 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: usually they're like I'm gonna rely on my legs and 854 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm gone. Yeah, So there's something weird about that. So 855 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: that was my thinking was that, hey, get this thing down. 856 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: If it's Angelo's great, If not, I don't care whatever. 857 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: And so next day you guys come back and you 858 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: searched and gritted, and what'd you do like ten twelve miles? 859 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least or at least ten we did at 860 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: least ten of just like you guys send us the 861 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: pin where he crossed one of the dirt roads, and 862 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: we just went up and back, up and back and 863 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 3: down back and grinded it back and gredded as much 864 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 3: as we could, went as far as we could, basically 865 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: until we got to the creed to help you. 866 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you guys got to a creek bed. 867 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: There's the other side of the creek. 868 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: That's why I said, or heard you guys want to 869 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: get lunch. I went to the other side of creek. Yeah, 870 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: we're like, well, might as well try the other side. 871 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: We went through every single bush you can imagine. 872 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: And with the other period, I mean, the other issue 873 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: about it was that, like you guys said, he's only 874 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: gone fifty yards at a time. So we could be 875 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: within thirty yards of him and not move. So we 876 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: had to be diligent about going, Like if we went 877 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: down this line, we could only go thirty or forty 878 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: yards down and do it again. So we couldn't just 879 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 3: like kind of see, h yeah, it's not really here, 880 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: and then it's hard to see some of that bush. 881 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 4: Yes, it was definitely. We were very much grid searching. Yeah, 882 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 4: like you can see it on our track. We're going 883 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 4: up walking fifteen steps going back in. Yeah, we're not 884 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: like trying to be stealthy, no, trying to flush again, 885 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 4: we're pheasant hunting for a wounded access right now. 886 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: We started a little slower and a little more quiet 887 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: because we thought what you guys have told us, he 888 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: had literally got across the road and bet it down, 889 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: So we started slow, and then when he wasn't there, 890 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 3: we're like, well we kind of just get him. We 891 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: need to get him moving. Never saw him what about 892 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: ten miles or so, never saw. 893 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: Him, never even came close. 894 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: And then I mean we walked. We walked from seven 895 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: am until about four thirty with a lunch break, with 896 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: a lunch break four thirty or five, and I don't 897 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: know because we yeah, we charged our phones for a 898 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 3: little bit, and we want to help them. 899 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet you we got Yeah. It was probably 900 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 4: six when we and we started glassing them. Yeah. And 901 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: then I'll be honest with the angelo. I was. I 902 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 4: was really motivated. We're going to find that. 903 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: He was so optimistic, was so optimistic. Me and Jeff 904 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: are the epitome of glass half empty, half full. Yes, 905 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 3: my glass is always half empty. Yeah, your glass is 906 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: always half full. It's the same glass. I do not 907 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 3: see it. Every time we turned the bush, Jeff saw 908 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 3: it as another opportunity to see where the deer's at. 909 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: Every time we turned another the bush, I thought, well, hell, 910 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: if he's not behind that one, why the hell would 911 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: he be behind that every single time? 912 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: So it was just a. 913 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: Struggle's been through so many different hunting scenarios where it's 914 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 4: like last ditch effort, last little you know jaunt, and 915 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 4: it works out, it changes the trajectory of the entire hunt. 916 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: The problem is the last few tracks I've done for 917 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: like wounded or mortally wounded. 918 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: Animals have been not successful. 919 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 920 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 3: Sure, Like I guess maybe maybe if the last one 921 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: had been successful would be enough to push me to 922 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this one could be too. 923 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I also think, like you know, I was telling 924 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 4: Angela like I need to grab my pom poms right 925 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 4: now and just cheer for you, because like it'd be 926 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 4: really easy as the camera guy with no strings attached 927 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 4: to this hunt, just beaking like, yeah, we're never gonna 928 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: find Like I don't know why we're even here. It's true, 929 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 4: like I'm trying. 930 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: To bird, Bird, do you think think we'll find him? 931 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: Odds are pretty bad? I don't think so. Literally, No, 932 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: That's what he said in you talk. When I shot 933 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: that bowl that we found the next morning, seventy five 934 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: yards from where we were, I said, man, you know 935 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm where you were on whatever day it was. And 936 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: You're just like, gosh, one, you wanted an animal. Two, 937 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: you're going home empty. Three you look like an idiot, 938 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: like that's your whatever? Ye, And I'm like, Bird, what 939 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: do you think? And He's just like, yeah, I'll be honest, 940 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: are pretty bad. 941 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like he asked me that same question, dude, 942 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: he's gotta be got to be on the corner. It 943 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: was crazy because I don't know the way I look 944 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: at it, and Angela and I talked about this. I 945 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: as a hunter, just like continue to check the box, right, Like, Okay, 946 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 4: we tried this, check the box. That didn't work. We'll 947 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 4: try over here, check that box that didn't work. Like 948 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 4: eventually you're gonna run out of boxes to check and 949 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 4: you're gonna have success. 950 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: My problem is like it's like there is a law, 951 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: it's a laundry list of stuff to do. And we 952 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 3: did this, did this, did this, And when you start 953 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 3: to run an option, you go, well, hell, I mean 954 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: I only have three more options at this point. The 955 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: other fifteen didn't work. So because it ain't gonna work. 956 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 4: Probably the truth is if we were like locals there, 957 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 4: like if you were hunting in your backyard, you would 958 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: find that buck eventually. And even Jordan texted me he's like, hey, 959 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 4: I'm still looking for this, Like there's no way he's 960 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: going to survive this summer. Yeah you know. And so 961 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 4: the only reason we didn't have successes because of time. 962 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah right, we've been there for a month. Maybe we 963 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 4: would just fine. So long story short. 964 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: And probably rain and rain didn't help. 965 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's like, can we get out of a 966 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 3: better not sure? Can we talk about his hunt? It 967 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 3: was actually really fun. 968 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 4: We did our due diligence, we checked all of our boxes. 969 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, so previous day I dropped my backpack, which we'll 970 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: get to later on the story. 971 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: This plays though, and so we even Curtis is never 972 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: wonder rule. 973 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: Well, it was like a day pack, and so you 974 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: really didn't need it, you know, like it was really 975 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of worthless to have until the next day. Usually 976 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: we would come home for lunch. I think last year 977 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: we stayed out one whole day. Me and Scott preferred 978 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: the whole stay out all day method because you can't 979 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: kill anything at the ranch. 980 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: Same. 981 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: So anyway, so we get out that morning. I've got 982 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: no pack. God has water, That was it. 983 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: I had water in a couple of mountain ops and 984 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: a stick ignite, yeah I was. I planned to be 985 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: out there for four hours, five hours. 986 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, and no breakfast yep, yeah, running on caffeine. 987 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: So we get out. We kind of climb this hill 988 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: to glass a little bit. We see some does, watch 989 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: them hop a fence for a little while. 990 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: Well yeah, because we thought we thought that he was 991 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: going to be the yeah. 992 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: And he just was not there. So we decided to 993 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: when the Doe stopped playing frolicking over the fence. We 994 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: go to this kind of the backside of this property 995 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: and we do a couple sits and listen, sits and listen. 996 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,959 Speaker 1: Then we get on the hillside and we glass. Jeff 997 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: takes a nap. We sit there until about Jeff takes 998 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: a long two hours. Me and Scott are just sitting 999 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: there with our on our thumbs. 1000 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: I think I took maybe a twenty minute nap. 1001 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: I think you did. 1002 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt nice, maybe thirty minutes. 1003 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: I did not nice. I did not. And so we 1004 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: get up. We kind of walk back, hiked back, and 1005 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: then we're kind of back and forth with these guys. 1006 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: So we go back to the original spot because we 1007 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: see some doze and they're jumping the fence again. You know, 1008 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: probably fifteen twenty one. 1009 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: Should also be said. We did stay out the whole day. 1010 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: So the whole day. 1011 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: So you guys have food stat all day and we're like, well, no, 1012 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: but we'll stay Yeah. 1013 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: So Jeff throws me a meat stick. So I had 1014 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: a Mountainknops chicken buffalo chicken meat stick. So that was 1015 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: about it. Then we sit there and we're watching these doughs, 1016 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: watching these does, thinking this buck's gonna come by Well, 1017 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: then these guys go up on top of the hill 1018 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: with the glass and get my bag. Ye, and so 1019 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: they spot a buck, and so we're kind of this 1020 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: is legal in Texas. It's convenient. 1021 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 3: It's convenient that your bag was on that knob too, 1022 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: because that was kind of the one we were probably 1023 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: gonna go up anyways. But also it was like kind 1024 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: of no choice. Your bag's up there, you guys are 1025 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: gonna be able to go there by dark. So all right, 1026 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 3: we're going up there. 1027 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: And so you guys spot the buck. And so Jeff 1028 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: and Jordan are like, we're in a good spot we 1029 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: think from where he's gonna come, judging on where the 1030 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: power lines and all this stuff are. So we're sitting 1031 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: there and for what all over hour and a half, 1032 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: their phones are starting to die, and we're starting to 1033 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: like text each other sidebar like, hey, where's he at. 1034 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: It's actually because Jeff and. 1035 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: They kept saying, hey, he's one hundred yards from the fence. 1036 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: He's about to be in the meadow. He's coming down 1037 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 2: the power line and we're looking at a meadow and 1038 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: we're not saying buck or anything. 1039 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 4: Disclaimer All of this is legal in texting all this 1040 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 4: is legal in texts. Yes, yes, communication via phone, there's 1041 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 4: no rules. It's an invasive species, there's a rule, don't 1042 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 4: come after some rolls. 1043 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 3: But last there's less rules. 1044 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: There's less rules on the phone for invasive species. If 1045 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: this is white tail is probably different, right, bet, you 1046 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 1: couldn't do this right tail. But anyway, you can. 1047 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 4: Talk on the phone, you can text, you can send pins. 1048 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 4: All that's legal. 1049 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: So at some point they decide that, oh, where he's 1050 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: about to cross the fence line is about a mile away, 1051 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen yards away something like that. Yeah, so Jeff's like, 1052 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: we gotta. 1053 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: Go well becauid Angelo sent us a pin and I 1054 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: was like, dude, this isn't right. He's way off. And 1055 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 2: then we're like, wait a second. 1056 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 3: I send a pin when I really he's had a 1057 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 3: picture where he was at it, this is where we're at, 1058 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: And we're like, why the hell's you just sending us 1059 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: a picture? 1060 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: But actually did hell? I wanted to show you what 1061 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: you were seeing, what we were like. 1062 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 3: I saw the bend in the road and I started 1063 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 3: I could see roughly it was. 1064 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: Far, but I could see gravel, dirt, driver. 1065 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, dirt. 1066 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, if that's as far as he can see. 1067 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: They aren't anywhere in the vicinity. 1068 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 2: And your pin was so far away from where you 1069 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 2: guys were describing this buck from our per I was like, 1070 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: there's no shot his pins right, and that when we 1071 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 2: realized the pin was right, we were like, oh crap. 1072 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 6: Yes. 1073 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 4: So when I remember when Jordan and Jeff had the 1074 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 4: initial conversation of being on the same page, I was 1075 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 4: genuinely impressed. I'm like, wow, that took not a lot of. 1076 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. The telephone, the last telephone. 1077 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 4: Bole, Yeah, perfect done. Meadow, Yes, the bole got it 1078 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 4: like boom, like and the conversation and you guys are 1079 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: just pinned on this meadow near the telephone. We were 1080 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: in different universe. 1081 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: We were thinking that where he went yesterday, he hopped 1082 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: that fence. Those dozes were with him, and it was 1083 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: a four hundred dish yard shot something like that, I think, 1084 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: And so we're just waiting for him, thinking he's gonna 1085 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: come right along that line. Yeah, we were wrong, and 1086 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: so we bomb this hill and get out to the 1087 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: the dirt road. 1088 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 2: We were literally running. 1089 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Helm was running. I dropped the bow. At 1090 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: this point, I've given up on the bow. We've got 1091 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: this hunt and then the next morning and that's it. 1092 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 4: We're done. 1093 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: So I'm like, rifle time, rifle time. I'd rather come 1094 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: home with something for my kids to think was cool 1095 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: than hey, no, your dad's a loser. So we started 1096 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: writting down you getting kids, yet you will? And so 1097 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: we start sprinting down the road. We get to some trees, 1098 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: we see the buck and there Jeff's like, here he 1099 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: is getting the trees. Find a rest. There is no rest. 1100 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: What make it work? 1101 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 4: Can I back up a little bit? Yeah, so Angelo, 1102 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 4: Jordan and I see all of We see the original 1103 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 4: meadow that Jordan was trying to convey to Jeff. Here 1104 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 4: comes as does, here comes to half buck. Here comes 1105 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 4: this beautiful buck, and we're like waiting for your gunshot, 1106 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 4: waiting for your gun shot because at this point the 1107 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 4: conversation we had thought everyone was still on the same page, 1108 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 4: and we like, we just see this beautiful buck not 1109 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: getting shot and moving into the next thick timber, and. 1110 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: Then all hell breaks well we start. 1111 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 3: That's when we started when scramble. 1112 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 4: Because that was, yeah, that original meadow was when we 1113 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 4: were like, oh, no, one is on the same page. 1114 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 3: We realized there's two rows of telephone poles, one going 1115 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: vertically and one going horizontally. They're like at the horizontal, 1116 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: We're like at the vertical. That's the that was the 1117 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 3: problem to. 1118 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: Conundrum multiple meadows. 1119 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: So we get in position. I get on a tree 1120 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: and just wedge my hand into the tree as much 1121 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: as I can it's straight up into out, and just 1122 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: set the gun on the tree. That's my rest sucks, 1123 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: and so he at first, I don't know, we thought 1124 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 1: he was gonna spook a little bit because the doze 1125 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: kind of either saw us or got a little doze. 1126 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: Were all staring at us. 1127 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: Yoh dag. So we can't move, and he he has 1128 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: turned heavy quartered to basically frontel and it crossed my mind, 1129 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I did not. 1130 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 2: I remember you saying like he's front I was like, I'm. 1131 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: Not gonna take a shot. So then I'm looking and 1132 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: i can see in my scope the branch on the 1133 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: tree in front of me that's hanging right at my 1134 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: scope level, and I'm like, that's below the barrel. I 1135 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 1: should be fine, but it's it's like it was enough 1136 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: in my way. So I'm sitting there and he walks 1137 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: and he turns broadside and just like, all right, whatever, 1138 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: you want to take the shot. And I'm like, I 1139 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: don't like that branch, so I go even lower and wider, 1140 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: do the same thing, and then he's at two forty five. 1141 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 1: So we end up shooting. He does a little kick, 1142 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: slowly start walking just like hit him again. So we 1143 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: hit him again, and we were like, I went, I'm like, hey, 1144 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm out of bullets. He's like I got one, so 1145 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: he hands me another one. He's like load it. We're 1146 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna walk up to the We let it sit there 1147 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: for he's like he's down. 1148 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: So he went was toasted. 1149 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but having known what happened, we ended up. So 1150 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: we he went, he did not go far, and he 1151 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: was dead when we got there. We did not have 1152 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: a Lazarus situation. And those bucks now named Lazarus. Yeah, 1153 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: you don't get it. Read the Bible, you're pagan. 1154 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 4: Because when I saw the footage on Scott's like, he 1155 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: didn't drop immediately, he kind of ran off and then 1156 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 4: like jumped in yeah, or took his death roll and yeah, 1157 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 4: because we heard. 1158 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: It, and then we had good keep pumping them with it. Yeah, 1159 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: all right, hit him again. I'm not taking after yours. 1160 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm not taking the chance and it doesn't mess the 1161 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: hide up as much as I think. 1162 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, we're good. Nope, we're yeah. 1163 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 3: Hit him again. 1164 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, Texas is awesome on a highs and 1165 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: lows and yeah, but it's a great great adventure for 1166 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: some friends. And got some that Jeff last year got 1167 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: close to him, so we've stayed friends. We're gonna have 1168 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 1: him on a podcast maybe, Jordan, if he'll come out 1169 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: of the darkness and wants to actually talk about guiding 1170 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in Texas. 1171 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 4: You did get him going like he was talking to Yeah, yeah, 1172 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 4: we got him going a little bit it. 1173 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 3: We had a good time. Really, he's a great I mean, 1174 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: he's a great hunter. So, like you said, that'd be 1175 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: a great place to go hunt. I think. 1176 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: I think, man, it's such a good off season thing. 1177 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: It's it is spot in stock. Granted we we spot 1178 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: stocked with friends and with communication. Yeah, you can done 1179 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: three days. You have three day hunt man, and it's you. 1180 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: You gotta get what you gotta get. 1181 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 3: I asked Jordan that. I was like, so how come, 1182 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 3: how come? Because it is Texas, why don't you guys 1183 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: hunt our feeders. He's like, honestly, I think you can. 1184 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: We just it's just not our style. We like like 1185 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 3: honey access teers like more fun on like spot in 1186 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 3: stock style, he said, And I'm just a little better 1187 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 3: at it, and so you can do both. But like 1188 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it is fun and it's doable. It's definitely 1189 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 3: doable compared to like, like we said, compared to Colorado 1190 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 3: or somewhere else that's very difficult to train. This train 1191 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 3: is moderately difficult. I say, the most difficult part is 1192 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 3: just the rocks. It's just rocky and it's just annoying. Yeah, 1193 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 3: it's not difficult, and there's some hills, nothing crazy, you 1194 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: can most most of the places you can see and 1195 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 3: actually get to in a reasonable amount of time. I 1196 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 3: thought it was fun. I've I've never had in a guide. 1197 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 3: Jeff was the first guided hunt I went on, which 1198 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: doesn't really count. Jordan was the first guy I'd ever 1199 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 3: had and had great We had a great time. I mean, 1200 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: like he really kind of knew his stuff. 1201 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,439 Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go to learn, it's great 1202 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: to learn I think from a guy I think it 1203 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: gets knocked at times. Will do it myself cool. 1204 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 3: He's he's hunted those those several thousand acres for like 1205 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty years. Like you can't learn it in 1206 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 3: three days. Like, yeah, you can. Yeah, Like you're saying, 1207 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 3: it's a good especially if you just haven't. 1208 00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: Done it a lot. 1209 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 3: It's it's probably a good idea to have somebody who 1210 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 3: knows one what they're doing and two knows the area. 1211 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to do it, bring. 1212 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 4: A bowt in a rifle to totally. 1213 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know. 1214 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, coming from a fly fishing guide perspective, if zero 1215 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 4: is like a never ever and a five is a pro. 1216 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 4: If you're going on a fly fishing guiding trip or 1217 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 4: a hunting guided trip, that person's knowledge, take full advantage 1218 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, you have like a lot at both 1219 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 4: fishing and hunting have a lot of dead time. You 1220 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 4: can just ask that person for as as many questions 1221 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 4: as you can, Like if you go on a guide 1222 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 4: to hunt, try to take full advantage of it. 1223 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, because then maybe at one point you don't need 1224 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 3: a guide, but like at right and when you're starting, 1225 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: you probably do exactly a lot, and then at one 1226 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: point you can try to do it yourself from the 1227 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: knowledge you've gained from those guys. 1228 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 4: Everyone needs a mentor man, and you know some. 1229 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: Come to Maham Hunt Prep camp. 1230 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1231 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty seven because this will probably be out after right, 1232 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: yeah right now. Oh if not, there's a couple of 1233 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: tickets left. Twenty twenty six, No tickets off. 1234 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 3: Well, just because the more for the orders and stuff. 1235 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: You can't yeah whatever the other not it's nice. 1236 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 4: Is not my role, gotcha? Yeah? 1237 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: No, twenty twenty seven. Yeah, you on the lookout. We 1238 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and look at now keep you go in it. Yeah, 1239 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: give them a year. Heads up Texas Texas, go to Texas, 1240 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: go hunt Texas Preenti Outfitters if you're looking for a 1241 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: good spot. Jordan says, they're full, but they might. 1242 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 3: They might work with you, work with you. 1243 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's. 1244 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: Fun. Scott You anything, Dad, Nope, make cactus still all right, Pa,