1 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode forty three of the 2 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast. I am Scott Coleman, and I am 3 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: joined very late on this Wednesday evening by the Great 4 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Steven Colbert. After the Braves ended up playing a pretty 5 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: wild and crazy game against the Diamondbacks, even if they 6 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: came out on the wrong side. 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: What's up, Scott, Yeah, it was a fun game. These 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: are these are games that I enjoy even even when 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: the Braves lose. It was a well played game. You know, 10 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: it's it's Arizona, it's a it's a hitter park. Uh, 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna play some kind of wild, offensive games, and 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, one of the better relievers had a bad 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: night and that happens. But yeah, it was a well 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: played game. It was a fun game. It was back 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: and forth, a lot of offense. But yeah, I mean, 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: it sucks to lose, but you know, the Brids are 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: still in a position to win the series tomorrow. So 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: these are ones I I don't I let these go 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: pretty easily. But yeah, it was a fun game. And 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: we're going to talk a little bit about the stuff 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: that happened today. 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of felt like after the Braves just 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: completely stole that game on Monday Night that they were 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: maybe due for one of these to swing against them. So, 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: of course, now the four game winning streak is over, 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: although as Steven said, I mean the Braves played pretty 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: well tonight for the most part. The offense continue to 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: show some power, which was encouraging, and we're going to 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: dive into plenty of that, but first we should say 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: that we are a proud member of the foul Territory 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: network of shows. We have also had quite a couple 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: of shows on the feed this week, including one that 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: you and Sean did very late on Tuesday night. I 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you all staying up late. I was actually at 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the games on Monday and Tuesday night in chase Field, 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: which were two just super fun games as a fan. 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: As a spectator, the Chris Sale and Zach Gallon lived 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: up to the hype, and then that Monday night game 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: they were just dead in the water and out of 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: nowhere came back to win. So it's been an enjoyable 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: series so far. Even if tonight's game was not the best. 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: The Monday Nights game it was actually a pretty frustrating 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: game to watch because the Braves had chance after chance 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: after chance, they weren't doing anything, had a rookie pitcher 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: on the mound, and then just boom that bolt of lightning. 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, Eddie Rizzario had to really get it bad 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: to keep the game going. And then you know Sean 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Murphy with that bolt of lightning that just just rocket 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: to right center field to tie the game. They played 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: well in extras, actually got unlucky and extras. They could 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: have scored three or four more runs as well as 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: they hit the ball won the game. Last night's game 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: was fun, obviously, Sale and Gallon. That was really cool 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: that you got to go to that game. You could 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: go to games your whole life and not see two 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: pitchers matchup as good as those two guys. So yeah, 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's a tough place to play. 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: If this series ended right here and you won two, 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: have three, you'd be extremely happy, right so, and the 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: Braves have one of their best pitchers going tomorrow, So yeah, 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a fun series. It's a crazy 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: place to play at times. It's not quite coors Field, 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: but it has that feel to it sometimes and tonight 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: had a little bit of that. But yeah, fun entertaining game. 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: For sure, and there were a ton of Braves fans 66 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: at Chase Field. I don't know how well that came 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: across on the TV broadcast, but they were very well 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: represented out at Chase Field. So if we have any 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: listeners out in Arizona who were at the game's a 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: tip of the cap to you all. Let's dig into 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Wednesday night's game. If folks did not stay up late 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: for it a seven to five loss, although there was 73 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: a lot of action, Braves went up early to nothing. 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Travis Darnaut, who was getting the start for Sean Murphy, 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: hit a double off the right field wall to make 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: it two to oh although unfortunately, about five minutes later 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: you Hennio Suarez just launched a baseball off of Charlie 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Moore to tie it. Then in the next inning, Matt 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Olsen had a sack fly to make it three to two, 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: and shortly after that could tell Marte, the National League 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: starter at second base, just ripped the ball over the 82 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: fence to make it three to three. Steve and I 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: wanted to briefly mention Charlie Morton tonight and get your 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: take on his performance. Overall, it wasn't bad other than 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the nine hundred feet worth of home runs that he 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: gave up, but six and the third innings. Five hits, 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: four runs, no walks, and five strikeouts is hardly bad 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: by any means. He worked into the seventh inning, which 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: was helpful for the bullpen. It was in some ways 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: it was very much the Charlie Morton experience. 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: He's had a little bit of the home run ball. 92 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: You know, the Giants had a couple home runs off 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: in his last start, and that's really where he's paid. 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: The most of the damage that's been done against him 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: has been the home run ball. The strikeouts are a 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: little bit down, you know, Sean and I talked about 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: this last night, like he's just a stand like Charlie 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: is just kind of a standard, you know, back of 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: the rotation. I call him a fourth starter. I think 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: that's what he is, not only because he's the fourth 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: starter in the Brads rotation, but even if the names 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: in the Braids rotation were different, he I'd still call 103 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: him a four start, just kind of what he is. 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: You know, he had you know, there was three runs 105 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: on the board when he actually left the game, but 106 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: he had a guy on first and that guy ended 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: up scoring, So he got charged with four. I mean, 108 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I think you tweeted it out, but like that's a 109 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: game that you just you take, Like if Charlie gives 110 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: you that you know, pitches into the seventh inning, when 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: he leaves the game, there's only three runs on the 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: board for the other team, I mean in a ballpark 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: like that against a pretty good offense. Like, yeah, it 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: wasn't perfect, and I know, you know, people that don't 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: like Charlie Morton are have strong takes about Charlie Morton 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: will use this game as fuel for that. But I 117 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: don't know, I agree with the tweet you sent, like 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you just I don't think you can complain about that 119 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: game if you know, the Braids didn't win, So people 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: will find a way to complain about anything. But from 121 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: Charlie Morten's perspective, like, I think you just got to 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: take that I got. I think you gotta be happy 123 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: with that. 124 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the Diamondbacks lineup is pretty good, especially 125 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: against right handed pitching. Quite a bit of thumb from 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: that left side. Corbyn Carroll, Jock Peterson, you know that 127 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: they're a solid lineup and I would agree with that. 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I think maybe it was not Charlie's a oneself tonight. 129 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I think an interesting way to evaluate pitchers, and of 130 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: course there are eight million stats these days, but it's 131 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: kind of something simple that I've kind of picked up 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: on lately is just add up the pitchers era, their 133 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: FIP and their ex FIP if you want to throw 134 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: in their expected era as well, and just divide those 135 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: numbers by three or four. And if you do that 136 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: for Charlie Morton, it's right around four. It's like four 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: point oh three. That's very much Charlie Morton at this 138 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: point in his career. I know, a couple of years ago, 139 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: his first year with Atlanta, he was so so good, 140 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: and he has not been that guy for the last 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: couple of seasons. And I know Charlie is a bit 142 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: of a lightning rod because he makes a lot of 143 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: and that, of course, there is no fault to his own. 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: Good for him forgetting that that paycheck and free agency 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But it is fair to 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: say that he is I think pretty clearly the number 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: four in the rotation right now. 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, he makes twenty million dollars, that's true, 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: but it's on a one year deal and if you 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: go back. You know, if people paid attention during the 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: winter at what some of these starting pitchers were getting paid. 152 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: You know, every time one of these guys would sign, 153 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: like Lance Lynn would sign a big contractor you know, 154 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: there would be guys who had like sixty or Kyle Gibson, 155 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Lucas Giolito signed for like forty million dollars. Like, every 156 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: time one of these guys signed, I was like, man, 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad I have Charlie Morton at one year twenty million. 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Like it Just I know that number is big, and 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: it a lot of people associated with probably something more 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: than what it is. But one year twenty million for 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: a starting pitcher is very modest if we're being honest 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: in today's game. And again, if you don't believe me, 163 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: just go search need a free agent tracker from the 164 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: winter and just sort by starting pitching and just see 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: what those guys signed for. You know, one year twenty 166 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: million is very is very reasonable. It's it's you know, 167 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: it's he's probably a tad overpaid, but not that much, honestly, 168 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, he's a four starter, that's just what he is. 169 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: And again, the Brads didn't lose his game because Charlie Morton. 170 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean he you know, seventh, he pitched into the 171 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: seventh again. When he left the game, there was three 172 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: runs on the board. There was a guy on first 173 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: and end up scoring off a double once once Pierce 174 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 2: Johnson came in. But like I'm I'm if you give 175 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: me that start every night for the rest of the year, 176 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: or every time he's out there for the rest of 177 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: the year, I'm gonna take it. Like I'm I'm gonna 178 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: take that. I'm gonna be fine with that. And I think, 179 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: in an honest moment, you know, Charlie would probably say 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: the same. I know he's a competitor, he wants to 181 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: do better than that, but this is kind of what 182 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: he is now. He's a four starter. Like you know, 183 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: you expect your offense and your bullpen to pick up 184 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of the slack. And the offense did 185 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: a decent job tonight. The bullpen couldn't finish the job, 186 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: but you know, that's baseball. 187 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: And then in the eight the Braves found themselves down 188 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: five to three. After that aforementioned not blow up, but 189 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Pierce Johnson came in for Charlie and really was not 190 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: very effective, although he was not exactly getting hammered on 191 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: pitches in the middle of the plate. There were just 192 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: a couple of good approaches from the Diamondbacks to plate 193 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: those two runs. But Marcelo Zuna came up in the 194 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: top of the eighth with the Braves down too and 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: launched a baseball to center field. I'm sure a lot 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: of our listeners probably haven't been to Chase Field. If 197 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: you hit a ball to the upper deck of center 198 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: field in that ballpark, you absolutely launched it. I think 199 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: it was something like four hundred and thirty five feet 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: from marcell And in some ways, to that Monday game, 201 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like the Braves were back 202 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: to doing what they did so well the past couple 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: of years, where even when they were down late, they 204 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: would always give you a fight and sometimes they win, 205 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: sometimes they lose. But it was just a mean, an 206 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: impressive shot for Marcel to get that ball over the 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: center field wall. 208 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's for I think the actual measurements 209 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: like four to ten or four lef the wall itself, 210 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: but it's like a it's like a twenty five foot 211 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: wall or something like that. Yeah, so yeah, they cleared 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: that wall. It's is a serious poke and he cleared 213 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: it pretty easily. There were some bombs hitting this game. 214 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean that the Diamondbacks hit a couple of bombs 215 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: the Braves hit, you know, Marcel obviously that bomb was huge. 216 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: You know, it was a weird game. I just looked 217 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: at the box score. I just noticed every time the 218 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: Braves scored, the Diamondbacks scored the exact same amount of 219 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: runs in the bottom half of that of the inning. 220 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: So like the Braves scored in the second, the third, 221 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: the eighth, and the Diamondbacks also scored in the second, 222 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: the third, and the eighth. You know, it's just a 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: weird game. The Braves just could never kind of get 224 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: a lead and then hold it for a few innings 225 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: and build some momentum. Just one of those games. I mean, 226 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, it happens. But yeah, Marcel has been amazing, right, 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's seventy five RBIs and the you know, 228 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: just past the first half of the season, he's on 229 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: pace for like one hundred and thirty one hundred and 230 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: forty RBIs this year, you know, close to fifty homers. 231 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just been a monster. He's been a 232 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: monster all year and kept it up and the Braves 233 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: had chances. I mean, the Braves could you know, they 234 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: could have added on more. They had Orlando Garcia trying 235 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: to bunt, which was an if you weren't watching the game, 236 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: it was a I don't know if it would call 237 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: it a highlight or a low light, but it was entertaining. 238 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: But you know, they had guys on base that you know, 239 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: they were probably one or two hits away for putting 240 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: up eight or nine runs. You know, it just didn't 241 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: work out tonight. But yeah, great for Marcell he keeps 242 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: it going. He had a he had a little bit 243 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: of a lull there, but he's kind of back. He was. 244 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: It was a pretty short lull for him and now 245 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: he's back to mashing baseball. So yeah, that was that 246 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: was awesome to see. You know, I hate that Joejomanns 247 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: had a bad night. You know, it left everybody with 248 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: a bad taste. But at least the Braves are fighting, 249 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: like you said, the Braves are. You know, they're coming 250 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: back in games or scoring runs. They're giving their their 251 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: team a chance to win. The offense is not just 252 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: laying down like it was for so long. So certainly 253 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: take that. 254 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: And in some ways, it was very uncharacteristic for Joejmanez 255 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: to have the blow up in the eighth inning, loaded 256 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: the bases with no outs. It was like, man, if 257 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: he gets out of this, he might actually be Houdini. 258 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he did not a bases loaded walk to Christian Walker. 259 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was actually a hell of a plate 260 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: appearance by Walker because he spit on three or four 261 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: pitches just off the plate. And for Jimenez, I think 262 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: folks know this. I know anytime the Braves lose a 263 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: close one, a fifty to fifty game like this, emotions 264 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: are always higher. But that was the first time since 265 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: June twelfth that Joe Jimenez has surrendered a run, So 266 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about a full month of really good work. 267 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: And even with the blow up where he gave up 268 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: two runs, his ear round the season sits at two 269 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: point seven five. He has a two point eight to 270 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: four FIP and the only number that's kind of interesting 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: in his profile he has an elevated x FIP of 272 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: four point one point nine. But that's really just a 273 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: product of giving up no home runs all year, and 274 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: that can be a little fluky season overseason. But I 275 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: think for Joe. It was just hopefully a blip on 276 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: the radar, but nonetheless a bad perform O Womans tonight. 277 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Let's call it what it was. 278 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get annoyed sometimes with people just because you know, listen, 279 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: I've done it before. Like if if I feel like 280 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: snit has done something that by process can't be explained, 281 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: then I think we're pretty fair on the show that 282 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: we will call that out, Like if it doesn't make 283 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: sense using Joejominis in the eighth inning of its high Game, 284 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: like that makes perfect sense. Like there was people in 285 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: my mentioned like saying, like why is Joe jomenizn Like 286 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, they wanted aj Mentor. You know, all that 287 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: is is just basing your opinion on the results. It 288 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: went bad, so it was a bad move, and I 289 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: hate that level of analysis. That's nonsense. You know, Joejamanz 290 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: has been one of the bravest best pitchers all season long. 291 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's been like a month since he 292 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: gave up a run. You know, people were talking about 293 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: how there was three lefties to start the inning and 294 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: so it should have been Mentor and that sounds great, 295 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: but you know, if you go look at the actual numbers. 296 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: Jmenez is dominated left handed pitching all year long. He's 297 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: dominated right handed pitch too. He's dominant to everybody. So, 298 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Snit went with one of his 299 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: best relievers in a tie game in the eighth inning. 300 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. It just didn't work. I mean, 301 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: that happens. So, yes, when I do think Snit has 302 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: some crazy tendencies when it comes to the bullpen, and 303 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: we talk about those when they happened, But I don't 304 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: think tonight was that. I mean, I think he used 305 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: one of his best relievers in the biggest spot and 306 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: it just didn't work. He just won his night, and 307 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's baseball. 308 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it doesn't bounce your way. But in the 309 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: ninth inning, the Braves, I mean everyone was kind of 310 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: holding out a little bit of hope against Paul Seawald 311 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: in the ninth inning, who had blown three consecutive saves 312 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: with home runs, including that one on Monday Night. But sadly, 313 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: even with a couple of hard contacts, including a rocket 314 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: from Travis Darnaut, the Braves could not do anything in 315 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the ninth and unfortunately lost seven to five to snap 316 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the winning streak. Before the game, there was some interesting 317 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: roster maneuvering from the Braves. Stephen, the Braves might have 318 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: actually kind of like exposed a rule about manipulating the 319 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: injured list. Now, on the surface, the rosterom of itself 320 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: was nothing special or eye opening. They optioned a J. 321 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Smith Shauber back to Gwenett after one day on the 322 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: big league roster. They finally placed Ramon Loriano on the 323 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: ten day injured list with an oblique strain. They recalled 324 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Dylan Lee, who was sent down twenty four hours ago. 325 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Although Lee never actually left the team, he stuck around 326 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, and the club returned Brian Anderson from his 327 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: rehab assignment after having a bacterial infection of some kind. 328 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: And Steven, I'm gonna you did some research and some 329 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: digging on this with somebody pretty close to the team. 330 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: In some ways, the Braves seemingly kind of manipulated the 331 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: rule a little bit, and I wanted you to share 332 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of what your research returned. 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: This is probably interesting to like ten people. This is 334 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: some roster you know, baiting stuff that it goes into 335 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: kind of the rules of the game and the rules 336 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: that dictate how you maneuver your players throughout a season. 337 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: But so essentially is the rule when you option a picture, 338 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: like the Braves option Dylan Lee, that picture has to 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: stay down in triple A for fifteen days unless he 340 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: is coming back up to replace somebody going on the il. 341 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: And that's been a rule for years now. The assumption 342 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: was from me, from everybody kind of you know, our 343 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: battery power guys, I was deeming with the beat writers. 344 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: Their assumption, everybody's assumption was that the only way you 345 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: can get a picture back up early is if a 346 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: pitcher is the one who's being illed. For instance, you 347 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: can't you know, the Braves couldn't have iled Loriano to 348 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: bring up Dylan Lee because there's a there's a picture 349 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: limit on the roster. You can only have thirteen pictures 350 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: on the roster, and obviously ailing a position player to 351 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: bring up a picture would be fourteen pitchers. So everybody 352 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: just has assumed all these all this time that if 353 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: you wanted to get a guy up early and didn't 354 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: have to wait fifteen days, the only way to do 355 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: that would be to iel a pitcher. Well, the Braves today, 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: instead of ailing a pitcher, what they did was they 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: essentially combined two different moves. They they optioned aj Smith 358 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Shalver and ieled Ramon Loreano and then called up Dylan 359 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Lee and Brian Anderson. So essentially what they did is 360 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: they ieled a position player to bring up a pitcher. 361 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: And before today and I was again, I was texting 362 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: with somebody pretty close to the team who actually ended 363 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: up texting Alex Enthopolis to get a clarification on this. 364 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: Nobody knew that was allowed, and so it is a 365 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: bit of a loophole. It's probably something that's going to 366 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: get closed up in the off season because there's no 367 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: logical reason why that should be allowed. But yeah, the 368 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: Braves kind of manipulated the roster rules to get Dylan 369 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Lee back up to the roster only two days after 370 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: they had optioned him without having to put a picture 371 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: on the IL, so that obviously helped, you know, get 372 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: the roster the way they wanted it. But yeah, nobody 373 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: knew that, or at least the number of people that 374 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: I talked to who followed the sport very closely, none 375 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: of them knew it. And I didn't know it either, 376 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, a little interesting detail. But you know, Alex 377 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: and Dauplass. You know, credit to him. They're always kind 378 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: of pushing the envelope on that stuff, and obviously it worked. 379 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hey, you know what, it gave the Braves 380 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: some insurance on Tuesday night with Smith Shaver. You know, 381 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: God forbid that, you know, Chris Sale go down with 382 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: an injury in the first inning and you have to 383 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: cover nine innings after an eleven inning game the night before. 384 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: You have to have somebody who could really cover your butt. 385 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: So ultimately, there was nothing of great consequence to the 386 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: twenty six man roster, although it was interesting and just 387 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: talking to Stephen before the show and just kind of 388 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: the digging that he was doing with people around the team, 389 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting. Nonetheless, a note on Ramon Loriano 390 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: that he has actually not appeared in a baseball game 391 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: since June twenty sixth, so we are going on two 392 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: full weeks since he last played. Believe it was actually 393 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: that doubleheader in Saint Louis. And clearly the Braves just 394 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of great minor league options right now, 395 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: especially that Brian Anderson was away and then rehabbing with 396 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the injury. So there's not like there's this long line 397 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: of talented outfielder's in Gwinet waiting for their moment. Nonetheless, 398 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: that was the roster move of the day. All Right, Stephen, 399 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: we are going to look ahead to both Thursday's game 400 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: and also talk about a pretty exciting show we have 401 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: coming up on the podcast. But first a quick word 402 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: from our sponsors. All Right, Stephen, this four game series 403 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in Arizona will wrap up on Thursday evening. I'm very 404 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: sorry to say that it is yet another nine to 405 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: forty pm Eastern Time start out in Arizona, which is 406 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: a little odd considering it's getaway day for both teams. 407 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: But alas, what are you going to do? Get that 408 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: coffee ready? It's going to be Max Freed with a 409 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: chance for the Braves to win three out of four 410 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: against the Diamondbacks. Against Brandon Fought, who became a postseason 411 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: hero for the Diamondbacks last year. He is pretty good. 412 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: It may not quite be Chris Salvers Zach Allen, but 413 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: it is a pretty good pitching matchup overall. 414 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: That kid for Arizona had a really big postseason. He 415 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: was I was actually one of their top prospects. Last year. 416 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: He had a pretty rough season. Actually, I remember looking 417 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: at one point he had to need ra and like 418 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: the sixes, but really kind of found himself late, you know, 419 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: Like you said, he was a pretty big piece of 420 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: that World Series run they made. It's got good stuff. 421 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, on paper, you would take Max Freed 422 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: over over. How do you say his last name again? 423 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: It's fought, like I thought the guy down the street. 424 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: Gotcha, Yeah, I fought it's Yeah, it's spelled like p 425 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: PF A A D T or something like that. 426 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: I looked it up. Admittedly, I looked up the Diamondbacks 427 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: Media Guide because I was not sure either. 428 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that. I've actually always wondered how you say 429 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: that name, So now I know. But yeah, you would 430 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: always obviously prefer Max in this situation. It's definitely advantage 431 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Braves on paper. But you know, it's it's Arizona. You know, 432 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: it's it's a tremendous Hitters Park. Anything can happen. This 433 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: kid has had some success in big moments, so you 434 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: know he can pitch. It'll be a fun game. I 435 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: do hate that it's an eight forty start or nine 436 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: to forty. I guess I'm Central time, but yeah, nine 437 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: forty for the East Coasters you know, I was hoping 438 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: for maybe a day game to get a break from 439 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, because obviously the Brasier going to San Diego 440 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: after this and are gonna have more late games. But 441 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: you know, it's West Coast Baseball. It's part of it. 442 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: But it'll be fun game. I would love the bravest 443 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: to get this one tomorrow to win the series. I 444 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: would hate to win the first two games and then 445 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: then have to leave with a split. That would be 446 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: kind of disappointing. Although you would probably taken a split 447 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: when the series started, you know, winn in the first two. 448 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: You would hope to at least win the series. So 449 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: it'll be a good game, you know. Hopefully Max come 450 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: out and pitch well. I he did not have his 451 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: best start against Philly the other day, so I'm sure 452 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: he's looking to bounce back and getting one more good 453 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: one before before the All Star break. So it'll be 454 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: a good game tomorrow and hopefully Buds can can come 455 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: out with a series win. 456 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you take out those two uncharacteristically bad starts 457 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: against the Phillies, Max has been so good as good 458 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: as basically anybody other than maybe his own teammate Chris Sayle, 459 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: So let's hope that Max gets back on track again. 460 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: A nine to forty pm Eastern times start at Chase 461 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: Field and then you know, I guess a good note 462 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: for the Braves is once they wrap up this trip 463 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: to Arizona and San Diego. Correct me if I'm wrong, 464 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: But they've already done the LA and Seattle trip earlier 465 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: in the year, so I think all that's left on 466 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: the West Coast in the second half of the season 467 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: would be a trip to Coursefield and to play the Giants. 468 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's it. Am I missing anybody? Steven? 469 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: Let me double check. So I know they have already done. 470 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: I know they did the Dodgers. Let me see they. 471 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Have maybe the Angels now. 472 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So they've got one more big trip and it's 473 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: in the middle of August. So they go to Coors 474 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: Field for three, they go to uh, San Francisco for four, 475 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: and then they go to the Angels for three and 476 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: that's all on one trip, so it's like a ten 477 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: day West Coast trip. 478 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I know anytime Atlanta comes out West folks 479 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: kind of grown a little bit with the very late 480 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: first pitches, and I get it. I'm out here on 481 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: the West coast, so it doesn't bug me quite as much. 482 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: But uh man, that is a hell of a trip 483 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: in middle of August for the Braves. But at least 484 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: two of those teams are terrible, like actually terrible. 485 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: And legitimately like maybe two of the worst teams in baseball. 486 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: And it will be worse at that point because it'll 487 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: be after the trade deadline, so a lot of those 488 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: a lot of the good players will already be gone. 489 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So folks get about a month 490 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: break from these midnight Eastern time finishes, which I'm sure 491 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: everybody is looking forward to. We have have an exciting 492 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: show coming up on the Hammer Territory Network in the 493 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: next couple of days. So long time listener, so I'm 494 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: talking really long time listeners of the Talking Chop podcast 495 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: back in the day, which was started by our very 496 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: own Brad Roland and Carlos Colazo, who is now a 497 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball draft writer for Baseball America. Carlos does 498 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: fantastic work. Brad and Carlos have reunited to do a 499 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: preview of the draft, which actually begins on Sunday. Admittedly, 500 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: I am not a huge draft person. I am out 501 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: of my comfort zone in that I think it's probably 502 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: sneaking up on a lot of people, especially with the 503 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: unconventional timing of it. Now, imagine if the NFL Draft 504 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: was in Week nine of the season, or if the 505 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: NBA and NHL had it after forty five games. Be 506 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: a little unconventional. But nonetheless, we will have a fantastic 507 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: show on the Feed with Carlos and Brad on Friday 508 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: which will have a complete comprehensive look ahead to the draft, 509 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: both for everybody and who the top prospects are, but 510 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: also a focus on the Brakes. 511 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait to listen to that show. Carlos does 512 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: fantastic work. Not only does Carlos write for Baseball America 513 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: and cover their draft, but I think it was like 514 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: four or five years ago MM Network actually partnered with 515 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: Baseball America and Carlos actually does the broadcast. Carlos is 516 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: on the MLB network broadcast for the draft and breaks 517 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: down players as they get selected. So and obviously Brad 518 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: and Carlos go way back, you know, starting this very podcast, 519 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: believe it or not, was started by those two guys 520 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: many many moons ago. So yeah, that's a great one. 521 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: I can't wait to listen to that. I'm very much 522 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: like Scott, I am not a I am not a 523 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: draft guy. I'm not even really a prospects guy, so 524 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: much less amateur prospects. So that'll be fantastic. I think 525 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: that's coming out Friday, if I remember correctly. So yeah, 526 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: check your feeds, especially if you're a draft guy. Again, 527 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: like Scott said, it's coming up rapidly. I mean it'll 528 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: be it's it's three to three or four days away. 529 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: So in the Braves, you know, the Braves are you know, 530 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: they're one of the best teams of baseball, so they're 531 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: not picking high in the draft. But you know, MLB 532 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: draft is a little different, especially with the bonus pool system. 533 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: A lot of teams don't necessarily pick the best players 534 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: at the top. They work the system get better players 535 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: in the in the later round. So even teams that 536 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: draft later in the in the draft can have really 537 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: big drafts. So I do know, I know, I do 538 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: know enough about the draft to know that at least, 539 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, that'll be a great show with with Brad 540 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: and Carlos. 541 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: It really will. So again, be sure to check out 542 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: the feed on Friday. Should be in your feeds soon. 543 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. A big thank you to Carlos 544 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: for taking the time. I am sure he is in 545 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: the very busiest time of year for him and the 546 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: great guys and gals at Baseball America. Steven, that's going 547 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: to do it for us on this late Wednesday now 548 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Thursday morning edition of the show. Again, a frustrating loss 549 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: or a guess pointing loss? I guess on tonight at 550 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: Chase Field, But overall, I thought the Braves played pretty well. 551 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: It was the definition of a fifty to fifty game. 552 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: And let's hope they can go out there on Thursday 553 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: and win the series against the Diamondbacks team that's been 554 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: playing really well. 555 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the other part of this. Diamonbacks are, 556 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: like you said, it's a good offense, man. They have 557 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: a really good offense. Like they're really balanced. They can 558 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: minch it, mix and match really well, like left and right. 559 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: I really like their team. I know they haven't played 560 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: great all year, but that's a good team and this 561 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: would be a really good you know, if you can 562 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: win tomorrow, take three out of four in their park 563 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: after sweeping them in Atlanta earlier in the year. I 564 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: mean that's that's strong baseball. So yeah, here's to Max 565 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: hope he can go out and bounce back from that 566 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: rough performance against Philly and win a series tomorrow. That'd 567 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: be fun. 568 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: Let us hope if they could take three out of 569 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: four to start this West coast trip, really cut you 570 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: on good footing heading into San Diego against a equally 571 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: good Padres team that is in the playoffs. If the 572 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: season was over tomorrow. That is going to do it 573 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: tonight for and myself, a big thank you to everyone 574 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: who tuned in. We will be back soon again with 575 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: the aforementioned MLB Draft preview show with Brad and Carlos. 576 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: I believe Brad and I are also going to be 577 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: doing a show on Sunday in our normal time slots. 578 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: Be sure to keep an eye out for that. He 579 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: is Steven Tolbert. You can follow Steven at b Underscore 580 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Outliers on Twitter slash X. I am Scott Coleman at 581 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: Scott Coleman at fifty five. Have a great day everybody, 582 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: and we will see you all next time.