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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? Happy Friday, happy potential weekends

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Speaker 1: and just happy life. You know, two thousand one, we're

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Speaker 1: rocking and rolling. I hope everyone is doing okay, um,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we just gotta talk a little football because

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Speaker 1: that's what we do here on the Three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast with me John Middlecoff uh and you'll

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Speaker 1: hear all the good uh the good takes. I have

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Speaker 1: have some thoughts on Jon Gruden Dak Prescott. I've had

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Speaker 1: to really let Dak Prescott marinate because when I gave

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Speaker 1: my take on da Prescott for Tuesday's show, it really

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Speaker 1: marinate for a while. All some thoughts on free agency

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Speaker 1: and the draft. Was in the car the other day

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Speaker 1: it just got my mind kind of thinking, Uh so

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into that, and then of course

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Speaker 1: d m s if you got a football question. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the free agency right around the corner. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot going on. The draft is not that far away.

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Speaker 1: Good time a year, right, love the season, love the games,

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Speaker 1: free agency in the draft. I wanted to start though

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Speaker 1: with with Jon Gruden, and I was thinking a lot

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Speaker 1: about this about perception and having someone who's been, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stories often are. And but from a

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Speaker 1: fans perspective, which I always say, I'm much closer to

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Speaker 1: If you watch that royal interview which I watched the

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Speaker 1: it was pretty captivating, It's like, if you just watch it,

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Speaker 1: But you're naturally gonna take sides. I was thinking about this,

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Speaker 1: the perception of John Gruden. I remember thinking it because

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Speaker 1: you know why, no one fucking remembers what he did

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Speaker 1: I thought Colin was crazy when he's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he peaks, probably ends up winning three. If I

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Speaker 1: tell you him and Andy went three, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that would be an incredible accomplishment. That

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Speaker 1: would be minimum. They get to four and he wins

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Speaker 1: three out of four, which would be awesome, which would

431
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Speaker 1: put him in rare you know, a rare category. But

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Speaker 1: one thing is like one stupid part this thing this

433
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Speaker 1: week was like when NFL reporters would announce so and

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Speaker 1: so has not been franchise tagged, be like, yeah, no, ship,

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson has not been franchise tagged. Like, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: we know, well I could have told you that two

437
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Speaker 1: years ago. Carl Lawson with the Bengals has not been

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Speaker 1: franchise tagged. Yeah, guys, I mean you follow the league.

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Speaker 1: We understand that Shaquille Griffin was Seattle. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: never gonna franchise. You only franchise elite players. If he's

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Speaker 1: not an elite player, it's a waste of money. But

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Speaker 1: the Packers didn't franchise Aaron Jones. The greatest thing that

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Speaker 1: Brady ever did, beside being a dominant football player, he

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Speaker 1: never takes acts value on his contract. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: blame anyone like Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz or Deshaun Wats

446
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: or any of these guys for taking the max money.

447
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: It's not their problem that the salary cap limits and whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's not their issue. Take as much money as you

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Speaker 1: can get. But if your team is not any good

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Speaker 1: and you're making forty million dollars, you don't get to

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Speaker 1: complain of your team is aigny good. You actively signed

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Speaker 1: a contract that you knew would limit your team's ability

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Speaker 1: signed players. Just just the reality. And at quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: Brady mentioned this, I am dependent on everyone else. Brady

455
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Speaker 1: had a great point. He's like the crazy thing about football.

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Speaker 1: He's like me, Tom Brady. At the time, he was

457
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Speaker 1: a six times Super Bowl champ. He's now seven times

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ. He's like, I couldn't start at another

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Speaker 1: position for a high school team. He's like, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: play offensive line. I couldn't play wide receivery. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I can't catch, I can't tackle, I couldn't play. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't start for a high school team at any other position.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was like, you know, probably a

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Speaker 1: really crappy high school team, but a good high school.

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Speaker 1: He's right, he could not. He's not fast. He couldn't tackle,

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Speaker 1: he probably can't catch. He can only do one thing,

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Speaker 1: play quarterback. And he's like, I am very dependent. Like

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Speaker 1: part of what makes me put a lot of effort

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Speaker 1: into being a good teammate is I am so dependent

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Speaker 1: on everybody. I'm depending on my defense, I'm depending on

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Speaker 1: the guys catching the ball. I'm depending on guys blocking

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Speaker 1: for me, depending on running backs either blocking or running

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Speaker 1: the ball. For me. It's a group effort. I need

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Speaker 1: every single one of these guys because I can't do

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Speaker 1: anything they do. And when you take backs money, you

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Speaker 1: do limit your ability to sign other guys. Now, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady right now is making twenty five million dollars. Twenty

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Speaker 1: five million dollars he easily should, based on his value,

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Speaker 1: should be a forty five million He should be the

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Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback or equal with Mahomes right now. If

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Speaker 1: he had wanted forty five million dollars this upcoming season,

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Speaker 1: Tampa would not have a choice. They'd have to give

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Speaker 1: him forty five million ours. But his ability to take

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, and he's ultimately going to extend and

485
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Speaker 1: probably take a discount, allows the Bucks to do what

486
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Speaker 1: and allowed the Patris do what stack their team and

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Speaker 1: what does he do we wins. No one ever complains like, well, Tom,

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Speaker 1: you know he's you can't sign know his teams are

489
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Speaker 1: always great. He got it and he is going to

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Speaker 1: be valuable and he's gonna be known as the greatest

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Speaker 1: winner or one of them in the history of team sports.

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Speaker 1: And I'd say just the history of America. When you

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Speaker 1: just think winners. Tom Brady is going to be at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list in any walk of life,

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Speaker 1: the business community, the sports community, any community. And listen.

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Speaker 1: He actively figured something out early on that my value

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Speaker 1: as a winner, as a Super Bowl champ and my

498
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Speaker 1: team is always being good helps me make money off

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Speaker 1: the field. And as I think Colin said it a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that Doc had already made fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars off the field. He was if you was

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Speaker 1: to state at the Cowboys quarterback, he could have made

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Speaker 1: huge money. Aaron Rodgers. Think how much money Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has made off the field. Well, a big issue this

505
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Speaker 1: week is the Packers didn't franchise Aaron Jones. Now, in theory,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is a franchise franchise herble player. He's a

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Speaker 1: pro Bowl level running back fantastic. I'm a big Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones fan. But they can't franchise Aaron Jones. They can't

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Speaker 1: extend Aaron Jones. It makes no sense. They don't know

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Speaker 1: the money part of it is the quarterback makes ton like.

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Speaker 1: That's just part of the reality. And in fairness to

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Speaker 1: Goodikins and the Packers is last year they drafted a

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Speaker 1: j Dealon and he's gonna fill in the role at

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Speaker 1: a much cheaper cost. Right they had Uh, they had

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones who was cheap because he was on his

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Speaker 1: rookie contract. He was a late round pick. Now they

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Speaker 1: got a J. Dillon, who's you know, second round pick,

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Speaker 1: and he'll just fill in. Now. Is he gonna be

519
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Speaker 1: as good? Who knows? Time will tell. But that's the

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Speaker 1: way they have to do business. Why because they don't

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Speaker 1: have that much wiggle room. Aaron Rodgers has made an

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Speaker 1: astronomical amount of money as a Packers quarterback, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not pooh pooing or telling him he should have taken less.

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Speaker 1: But there are always question marks the Packers could have

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Speaker 1: done more of the Packers could know more. They're paying

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Speaker 1: a guy in max contract for a decade that's just

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Speaker 1: that's a fact, and that does limit your ability. If

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Speaker 1: he had taken a little less like Tom, maybe he's

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Speaker 1: got a couple of super Bowls, maybe he's got three.

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Speaker 1: He's been arguably the best player in the league, give

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Speaker 1: or take for a decade him, Tom and Peyton. Peyton

532
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: was the same thing. Always took max money. What were

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Speaker 1: the what were some issues with the Colts? Well, they always,

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00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, lack some depth. Of course they do. We

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Speaker 1: don't really ever say about Tom's teen you know, they

536
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Speaker 1: ever lack some depth. And to me, I not all

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Speaker 1: decisions help I make decisions and I'm not a millionaire.

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Speaker 1: That don't always revolve around money. I can't imagine if

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Speaker 1: I was worth a hundred million dollars, it actually gives

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00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: you more leverage than not. Every decision is based on money.

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Speaker 1: And and Brady has been lucky like he had Belichick

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Speaker 1: and now he has a good front office and coach

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00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: that he believes in, that he trusts. Clearly not that's

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Speaker 1: not the relationship with every quarterback and coach. But I

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Speaker 1: think when you can look at it big picture, and

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Speaker 1: it's hard because you know the number one person who's

547
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: not gonna want to look at a big picture. Even

548
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: if the player will will be the agent because you

549
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: know what, the agent always wants more higher contract. Why,

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Speaker 1: that's how they get paid. So the agent will never

551
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: ever want to leave money on the table. That's how

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Speaker 1: they feed their family. The more money they get, the

553
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: more money that you know, the more money the player gets,

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00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: more money they get tom I mean, is he just

555
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: smarter than everyone else? Is he just lucky? I don't

556
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Speaker 1: necessarily have the answer, but he just did this a

557
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: little differently Kevin Durant when he resigned with the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Remember he just signed a little one year contracts took

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Speaker 1: a little less I think it was a second or

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Speaker 1: third year so they could resign Andre Gudala and keep

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Speaker 1: the dynasty going. Now, it was only a couple of

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Speaker 1: million dollars, but I'd say most NBA players are like, no,

563
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Speaker 1: you just take the fucking max and make the team

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Speaker 1: worry about it. He didn't think like that. He realized, like,

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Speaker 1: I want my team the other the best chance to win.

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Speaker 1: So we went from like twenty seven to twenty four

567
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Speaker 1: or twenty five, I can't remember the exact number, and

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Speaker 1: they resigned Iguadala. Ultimately they got rid of with all

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Speaker 1: the falling year, but it enabled them to have a

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Speaker 1: little more wiggle room because the rules are the rules.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone, if it was baseball and everyone could make money,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't be having these conversations. But it's not so.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I see a team or a fan base like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just we should resign this guy. No,

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Speaker 1: you just don't have the money. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: the economics of the league work. And Tom, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's an outlier as just an all time great player,

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Speaker 1: but his ability to always sign for less, like is

579
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: it that random? Did he really luck into the six

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls? Or did he actually kind of stack

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00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: the decks and realize, Hey, guys, I'm still a multimillionaire.

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Speaker 1: I'm still worth hundreds of millions of dollars, I'm still

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Speaker 1: getting paid a ton off the field. I'm just allowing

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Speaker 1: my team every guy that I want to keep or

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Speaker 1: think we should keep, I'm giving them the wiggle room

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Speaker 1: to do it. And look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: What do they do it. They resigned Lavonte David, who

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Speaker 1: I thought was gonna get a lot of money on

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Speaker 1: the open market. They signed to I think two years million.

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Speaker 1: They tag Godwin, they're working on a deal with Shack Barrett.

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Speaker 1: They would not have been able to do that. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: two or three of those guys are gone, maybe all three.

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Speaker 1: If Tom's making forty five million, which he's definitely worth.

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Speaker 1: But Tom, big picture, I'll take a little less because

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Speaker 1: I'll win, and then I'll keep printing checks once I retire. Okay,

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Speaker 1: free agency is I'm recording this on Thursday. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening this on Friday, you know, basically the unofficially signings

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Speaker 1: can happen, you know, Monday and Tuesday, right, and then

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Speaker 1: it becomes official on Wednesday, So it's really here by

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Speaker 1: the time I record on Monday, to go into Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: I bet we have a decent amount of unofficial signings. Right.

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Speaker 1: We already have the big trade. Uh. I've heard some

603
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Speaker 1: rumors some big trades are brewing, but you never know

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Speaker 1: until they get unofficially announced. Here's what I do know.

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Speaker 1: Two huge moments for GMS and coaches right these next

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Speaker 1: month and a half. Free agency. In the draft, the

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Speaker 1: draft is completely different, right, They're gonna be let's just

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Speaker 1: use the quarterbacks for example, They're gonna be three or

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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. Let's say drafted in the top ten. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say four fields obviously Lawrence one, Wilson Fields, and

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Speaker 1: let's say mac Jones all go in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Probably two of those four guys arena aren't gonna be

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Speaker 1: any good. Mel Kuiper told me he thought the bus

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Speaker 1: potential of mac Jones is pretty high. You can hear

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Speaker 1: on Haybrod Middlecoff podcast. We said mel Kiper living legend,

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Speaker 1: no big deal, and he's right. Like, if four five

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are draft in the first round, probably two of

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Speaker 1: them have a chance to be good. One of them

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Speaker 1: is a pro bowler, two of them are complete bus.

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Speaker 1: But in fairness to those kids, two year olds they

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Speaker 1: get drafted, they have zero zero power where they go,

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Speaker 1: absolutely none. It'd be like if you were a smart guy,

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Speaker 1: and you know, guy like me, I u C l

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Speaker 1: A Stanford's Cows. Although schools declined me, no, John, you

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Speaker 1: can't come here. That's why I had to go to

626
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Speaker 1: cal Poly was the only good school I got into

627
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: that in u C. Davis. But I would lived in

628
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Speaker 1: UC Davis, so I maybe they gave me a pity admittance.

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Speaker 1: None of the U C. Schools were interested in this guy?

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Speaker 1: Why not intelligent enough? Some of you guys that went

631
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Speaker 1: to elite academic institution Stanford, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, you know wherever.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you were the cream of the crop, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the number one guy, and you're graduating class at

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Speaker 1: Northwestern and you were a finance major and Morgan, Stanley,

635
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Speaker 1: bear Sterns, Merrill Lynch, all these companies, Google, could There

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Speaker 1: was a draft and you didn't get to pick where

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Speaker 1: you went. It was like boom, You're the number one

638
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Speaker 1: guy on the open market. And all of a sudden,

639
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Speaker 1: it's like Merrill Lynch got got Billy from Minnesota, number

640
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Speaker 1: one guy from Northwestern, genius, has incredible uh computer skills

641
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Speaker 1: and he's great at manipulating the market. We think this

642
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Speaker 1: guy is a high ceiling and you're like, I wanted

643
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Speaker 1: to go two up. You gotta move to l A.

644
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Speaker 1: You're like, I wanted to go to New York and

645
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Speaker 1: you didn't get to You didn't get to pick. That's

646
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: what the draft is. We know that, right, The kids

647
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: have zero power. You get drafted by these teams hell,

648
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Speaker 1: even in later rounds. Right, It's why people will always

649
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: tell you in the six or seventh round. You're better off,

650
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Speaker 1: even though it's hard to say you're better off not

651
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Speaker 1: getting draft because it's incredible to tell someone you got drafted,

652
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the NFL. But sometimes you're better off

653
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Speaker 1: in an undrafted free agent because you get to pick

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Speaker 1: the team. But in free agency you do get to

655
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Speaker 1: pick the team and listen the NFL because especially this year,

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Speaker 1: for the middle class, Like what I've been told, I'm

657
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Speaker 1: sure many of you read that the high end guys, right,

658
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Speaker 1: uh Yannick and Doc Way is gonna get a ton

659
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Speaker 1: of money. Joe Thuney, who actually scout, told me not

660
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Speaker 1: that good, but I would imagine the guy gets a

661
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Speaker 1: lot of money. Any good player or a high end

662
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level player on the open market is gonna

663
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Speaker 1: get a ton of cash. The middle class with the

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Speaker 1: cap coming down, which is the way it works in siety,

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Speaker 1: Like who got screwed in Corona? I don't know the

666
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Speaker 1: middle class and the poor, right, the rich got richer,

667
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Speaker 1: dramatically richer. The middle class always gets screwed always. I

668
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's true or not, but I saw

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Speaker 1: that California or sales tax is eight percent. I tried

670
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Speaker 1: to someone tweeted at the sales tax now in California's

671
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Speaker 1: ten point to five. Again, don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 1: If it is true, the sales tax that does not

673
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Speaker 1: impact the millionaires, does not impact the rich. Do you

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Speaker 1: know that impacts the dude making fifty grand, the family

675
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Speaker 1: of four, it doesn't have much disposable income. The middle

676
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Speaker 1: class is always getting screwed. They get screwed in these

677
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Speaker 1: CBA negotiations. That's just it. It's tough. You always get

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Speaker 1: the short into the stick because you don't have as

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Speaker 1: much money, or in this case, you there's not as

680
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Speaker 1: much money going around, so they pinch pennies with you.

681
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Speaker 1: And again we're talking about millionaires here, so we're not

682
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Speaker 1: gonna lose sleep over them. But if you were an

683
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Speaker 1: eight million dollar player on a normal free agent year,

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Speaker 1: maybe this year you get three or four and I

685
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Speaker 1: think a large percentage. This is just an educated guess

686
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Speaker 1: of the middle class of players. You're like just a

687
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Speaker 1: solid starting guard, you know, a third wide receiver, a

688
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Speaker 1: nickel corner, are gonna sign potentially one year contracts. Part

689
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Speaker 1: of signing a one year contract is within a year

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be looking for a job again. And I

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Speaker 1: would factor in more than money when looking at this

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Speaker 1: if I was in that situation. If you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: me a three year deal and guarantee multiple years, I

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Speaker 1: get it right. I have security, financial security. But if

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna give me a one year deal, money

696
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be the driving force. Because what if the worst

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL, or a coach that you don't

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Speaker 1: believe in, or scheme that doesn't make any sense, it's

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Speaker 1: offering you the one year deal. Well, if they're offering

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Speaker 1: me one year six million dollars, or I go somewhere

701
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Speaker 1: else for one year four million dollars, I know that

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Speaker 1: I perfectly fit. I know the team is way better.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they Seattle a Green Bay, a team that's

704
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Speaker 1: won a lot. I go. I'm gonna be way more valuable, succeeding,

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Speaker 1: having making place in primetime games, in games that matter.

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Speaker 1: And then if the cap goes up next year, which

707
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Speaker 1: everyone thinks it's going to, I can cash back in.

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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna sign these one year deals or

709
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Speaker 1: even these fake two or three year deals, but it's

710
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Speaker 1: only one year guaranteed, and you go to a place

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Speaker 1: that you know probably won't have success or something that

712
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Speaker 1: you're not comfortable on. It could backfire, and it could

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Speaker 1: backfire on you hard because you have a bad season,

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Speaker 1: they cut you next year, and you're not very valuable

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Speaker 1: in the open market. And on most years we get

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Speaker 1: it right. Players, the NFL careers so short you don't

717
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Speaker 1: have a choice. But I would be I would approach

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Speaker 1: this a little bit different. And the hard part is

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Speaker 1: for players are the agents. They profit a lot more

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Speaker 1: when the contract is bigger, even if it's just one

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Speaker 1: year four million or one year six million, even if

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Speaker 1: the six million place is way worse, they won't care.

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Speaker 1: They'll send him to the six million dollar spot. Uh,

724
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Speaker 1: but you're gonna see some guys make some terrible decisions

725
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Speaker 1: this offseason because they're putting tough spot. And back to

726
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Speaker 1: what I said, in the middle class, they don't have

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Speaker 1: leverage in in any walk of life, right, they have

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Speaker 1: the least amount of money, They have the least amount

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Speaker 1: of power in any Usually in any leverage situation when

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Speaker 1: it comes to business, whether it's in society or whether

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Speaker 1: it's in football, whether it's in a pro sport, the

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Speaker 1: middle guy always kind of is getting quote unquote the

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Speaker 1: scraps of whatever industry you're in, and which if you're

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Speaker 1: in pro sports, scraps aren't bad. Like I said, we're

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Speaker 1: talking millionaires. But when you are a guy, all these

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Speaker 1: people want to have success. You want to play well,

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Speaker 1: You want to go to places that are going to,

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Speaker 1: uh give you the best chance to be not just

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Speaker 1: a good player, but team success because with team success

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Speaker 1: comes financial success. I think how much money Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: made all those guys in Tampa, right the franchise tags,

742
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Speaker 1: the contracts, they became a lot more valuable. Why because

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Speaker 1: you watch them in real, meaningful games. It's hard. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I've evaluated free agents when I was a pro scout.

745
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: When you play on terrible teams, it's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's none of these games matter. But when

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Speaker 1: you play on playoff level teams, the second half, all

748
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Speaker 1: your games matter, and then I see and then I

749
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Speaker 1: can evaluate you in the playoffs. So I I just

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Speaker 1: hope some of these players take a step back, take

751
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Speaker 1: a deep breath, and evaluate their circumstances and their potential suitors,

752
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little differently than they typically would, uh, just

753
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Speaker 1: because the setup of these contracts this offseason for the

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Speaker 1: non elite guys, it's probably gonna be unique. Might be

755
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Speaker 1: a record number of one year deals for guys that

756
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: always would have got multiple year contracts. And because they

757
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: all want to hit the market next year. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you want to hit the market, you want to come

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Speaker 1: off a good season, right, you would, you would much rather.

760
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Speaker 1: It's much easier to break up or get a divorce

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Speaker 1: when you rich and skinny, right than when you're just

762
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Speaker 1: when you look terrible and you don't have any money. Like,

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Speaker 1: good luck hitting the open market. Single, that one will

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Speaker 1: work out for you, just like it's it's much easier

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Speaker 1: hit the open market. Yeah, I just I had a

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Speaker 1: record season production wise, then like you know, just it

767
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Speaker 1: it bad for us. I know I only had twenty

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Speaker 1: five catches, but I'm telling you I'm a seventy five

769
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Speaker 1: catch guy. It's like, well, I just watch you not

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Speaker 1: really like it's not my faults the quarterbacks. I can

771
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: just evaluate the film. I'm like, sorry, you're not worth

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Speaker 1: that much money. You got a factor in more than

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Speaker 1: just money sometimes. Okay, let's go Middlecoff mail back at

774
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Instagram, d MS wide open coming out with

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Speaker 1: your boy uh from Will quick question as a Saints fan,

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Speaker 1: Why hasn't Drew retired yet? Like? Is he coming back?

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Speaker 1: Is there some advantage if he waits till the league

778
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Speaker 1: year starts starting to get worse? He's coming back. I

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00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: love the guy, like family member, but last year the

780
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: fat lady saying, and I hate to see it and

781
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: worse for him. What's going on? It's a great question

782
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Speaker 1: I do not have the answer to. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't I don't know if there's cat

784
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Speaker 1: purposes for him waiting. Uh. He he reduced his salary

785
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: right from twenty five million to the veteran minimum, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it really makes a difference, right

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Speaker 1: whether he retired or not. He's on the books, so

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Speaker 1: I get I don't know. I don't know. It is

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Speaker 1: a little bizarre. I do think it has to do

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Speaker 1: with the logistics of the cap and the money to

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Speaker 1: meet him moving his money down. Uh. I think shows

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Speaker 1: you're regardless whether he comes back or not, he's not

793
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Speaker 1: gonna take up any cap space, at least the least

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Speaker 1: amount he possibly can. Why do we always look at

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Speaker 1: the big school quarterbacks coming out of the draft and

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Speaker 1: saying they're gonna hit in the league because they have

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Speaker 1: played in big games and have played against top defensive talent.

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Speaker 1: But looking throughout the last twenty years, most of the

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Speaker 1: successful quarterbacks came out of smaller schools. Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that's quite true, right. Tom Brady went to Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manny went to Tennessee when they were a power Uh,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to cal when Tedford had them rolling.

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Speaker 1: You know, Drew Drew Brees went to Purdue, who was

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Speaker 1: a Power five program. But you're right, I mean, not

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Speaker 1: a not a major player. Alabama had no good quarterbacks.

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00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Burro went to lh U and Ohio State. Uh, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: I spot in college. I'm just sticking off top of

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Speaker 1: my head. I hear you. You know, Russell Wilson transferred

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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin. Uh, it's fair. I just think because typically

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks, the most talented quarterbacks in the draft

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Speaker 1: are the powered five schools. But like I talked about

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Speaker 1: with Dak, pure talent does not determine your success in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Like Tom Brady, his relentless nature, his determination,

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Speaker 1: his discipline. Peyton Manning and Drew Brees is study habits.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much more that goes into playing

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Speaker 1: quarterback than just athletic traits. I think it's fair to

817
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Speaker 1: say the athletic traits you need the bare minimum of

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Speaker 1: NFL athletic traits, right If that's like Drew Brees, and

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Speaker 1: then most guys if Drew Brees is like the minimum

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Speaker 1: most guys. If if he Drew Brees a five. And

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Speaker 1: let's say, who would be a tan like Rogers in

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Speaker 1: his peak, would be a Tanner Mahomes. As long as

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Speaker 1: you're five, you know you can you can become a

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Speaker 1: pro and a Hall of Famer like a seven. Right

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, what's his defining athletic characteristic? His height? He's huge.

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Speaker 1: He is a massive man. But I think he'd admits it.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a great arm, he couldn't run. It

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Speaker 1: was just he worked on his accuracy. He knew where

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Speaker 1: all the defensive players are going to be. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a great example of like maximizing all the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I just think that it's it's intangible. They're like,

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Speaker 1: why is the draft never become an exact science? Because

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Speaker 1: I can't quantify the intangibles and the intangibles in the

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Speaker 1: sport of football. Because once you get drafted, you're probably

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Speaker 1: meeting a lot of the minimum physical and athletic requirements.

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Speaker 1: How do I determine how tough you are? How do

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Speaker 1: I determine how focused you are? How do I determine

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Speaker 1: how disciplined you are? Because even if I'm getting rave reviews,

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Speaker 1: what happens once you start making ten million dollars? I've

840
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Speaker 1: never made twenty million dollars. I hope I'd stay pretty

841
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Speaker 1: locked in. But what if you told me next year

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Speaker 1: Johnny made twenty million dollars. You spend the same amount

843
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Speaker 1: of time getting ready for these podcasts, you spend the

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Speaker 1: same amount of time creating content. I hope. Yeah. I

845
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Speaker 1: mean I like doing this. I'm passionate about it. I

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Speaker 1: know people like it, which which gives me a lot

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Speaker 1: of joy. But I don't know. I have nothing but

848
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: respect for individuals, whether it's players, whether it's coaches, whether

849
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: it's people in business that did keep the pedal to

850
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: the medal once they make It's one thing, Like it's

851
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: one thing to like make a first million, right and

852
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: be like okay, but you can't like retire off a

853
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: million dollars. But if you made twenty thirty forty fifty

854
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: million dollars and you go, you know what, this guy

855
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: works harder now than he did back then, or equally

856
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: as hard. Like Belichick and Andy Reid. I've never been

857
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: around Belichick, but I've heard enough stories from people that

858
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: have and just knowing Andy, like how do they keep

859
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: working so hard? How is it possible? There worth they

860
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: have a hundred million dollars in the bank? How do

861
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: they do it? And I often just questioned myself, like

862
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: do I have that in the bag? How did Tiger

863
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Woods his back broke, his body broke, his personal life broke.

864
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: He had already accomplished, he was always super rich. How

865
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: did he work his way back to ultimately winning the

866
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Masters in two thousand nineteen? What drove him to do that?

867
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: And and from Tiger's unique because we saw it from

868
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: a really really young age, But a lot of guys

869
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to quantify that, right, Like if Trevor Lawrence

870
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: becomes a star or not, it'll be because this guy

871
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: is unfazed by success. This guy is unfazed by money.

872
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: This guy is the hardest working guy in the building.

873
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: And you never truly know till you get him in

874
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: the building, right, I mean it's it's just a human

875
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: like what drives you? Right? And I'd argue the most

876
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: successful people are not driven by money, right. And one

877
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: thing Brady said that Howard Stern interview and Howard was

878
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: asking him like this was again it's it was weird

879
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: listening because this was before the season, and Howard asked

880
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: him and Howard's not a sports guy. And Howard goes, Tom,

881
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: the one thing I do not understand. You have an

882
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: unlimited amount of money, Your wife has money, You're healthy,

883
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: you're forty two, you have accomplished everything humanly possible. Nobody

884
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: argues that you're the best player, not the best player

885
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: in the league history. Why are you like, why are

886
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: you risking hurting your legacy? And Tom goes, Never once

887
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: in my life, when I was young, and even throughout

888
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: my Patriot's career, did I worry about like what will

889
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: my legacy say? Like I didn't get into football for

890
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: the legacy. How I didn't get into football for the money.

891
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I got into the football because I loved playing football,

892
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: and with that the money came, you know, success came,

893
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: fame came. I didn't get in it too for any

894
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I really truly believe if you enter

895
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: an industry, whether it's playing a pro sport, whether it's

896
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: any business, if you get into it for the right

897
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: reasons and passion and love and to success, that's the follows.

898
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: But I think we're obsessed. And I was I was

899
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: actually thinking when Tom said that, I'm like, you know,

900
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: use the word legacy a lot. Russell Wilson like, should

901
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you like I never heard Peyton Manning talking about his legacy.

902
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Now I don't even hear it Rogers talking about his legacy.

903
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Should you be talking about Did Michael Jordan talked about

904
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: his legacy when he was playing or do you just dominate?

905
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: Did Tiger talk about his legacy in his hey day

906
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: or do you just he was just driven to play.

907
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Do you think Belichick is like obsessed with his legacy

908
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: or he's trying to win the next game. So I

909
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: it's just I think the most successful people in life

910
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: are the thing that makes them the most successful was

911
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: like the thing you can't quantify, Like why did Jeff

912
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: Bezos never tap out like the nineties when it you

913
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: know it's just really gonna work, because it's not gonna work.

914
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't know something something inside of him, right, hypothetically,

915
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: what teams would consenter signing Dak Prescott, especially for over

916
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: thirty million. I think the Cowboys should have called his bluff.

917
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I kind of agree. Um, I would say Washington would

918
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: sign him. I'd say the Bears would sign him. I

919
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: say that two teams would sign him for sure. I'd

920
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: say there would be a bidding war between Washington and

921
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: the Bears. Someone would pay him, maybe not forty million,

922
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: but I think he'd make thirty to thirty five. Long

923
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: time listener, I think the adding Richard Sherman to the

924
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: Raiders is no brainer. He can help mentor the young

925
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: talent in the secondary and can help the young corps

926
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: buy into Gus Bradley's defensive scheme. He might be the

927
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: most valuable get in free agency. Looking back, I tend

928
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: to agree, and I've talked to Richard a little bit

929
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: over the years. He's clearly a really eye level guy.

930
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: I'd say this though for San Francisco tenure one thing,

931
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: and I remember going to a practice when they first

932
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: signed him and he had the sleeve on his achilles.

933
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: He couldn't even practice. He was like just on the

934
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: sideline and he was cheering on the guys like he's

935
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: a he's a force a practice, you feel him. And

936
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: one he's just big. Like probably you know a lot

937
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: of a lot of people if you've ever been to

938
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: an NFL practice, A lot of the dbs you know

939
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: range between like five ten and six ft. They're not

940
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: at tall. There's some of the smaller guys on the team.

941
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: Richard is huge. I mean, Richard is a legit six three,

942
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: He's long, he stands out. But one thing that helped

943
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Richard be a mentor with the n Ironers is he

944
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: was an All Pro second year Pro bowler. He was

945
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: one of the best players. So I'm with you on

946
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: the mentoring thing. But if you don't think he can

947
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: play anymore, and last year he got injured, he can't

948
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: really run and listen, I'm a Richard Sherman fan fan.

949
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: I just to me, there's a price, you know, Like

950
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: can I get him one year three million dollars or

951
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: do I gotta pay for mentoring one year eight million?

952
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: Because Richards also his own agent, I don't think he's

953
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: into taking discounts, but that that's to me where it

954
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: would uh. I'm fascinated to know what rich Sherman makes

955
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: this year. I think it'll probably be a one year

956
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: deal typically the you know, the Raiders, I don't know.

957
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: I I do think it helps. But if Richards let's

958
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: just say, over the hill and he can't really play anymore.

959
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: The mentoring thing, I think can be a little overrated.

960
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: If it helps if you're playing like J. J. Watt,

961
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: if you play sixteen games, he could be a mentor

962
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: if he's just playing. But if you only play half

963
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: the games because you're injured, I I do think it

964
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: would become a little more difficult. I guess I think

965
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: that can be a little overrated. I think you do

966
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: a fantastic job explaining the business and scouting side of

967
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: professional sports. It's always insightful. I've always been interested in

968
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: working for a franchise, preferably in Major League Baseball, other

969
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: than playing through college. I have no experience in baseball,

970
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: but would love your advice on how to about how

971
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: to getting into the world while also making money. I'm

972
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: not in a financial position to make next to nothing

973
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: just to chase a dream. Why haven't pursued it? I

974
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: don't have a great answer to that, because when I

975
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 1: pursued quote unquote my dreams, I didn't have anything that mattered, right,

976
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: I was in my early twenties. I could live off

977
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: twelve grand whatever Fresno State paid me. When I got

978
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: to the NFL, they it's either twenty or twenty five.

979
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I made at no health benefits, but I could.

980
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: I could survive off that. I did actually pretty easily. Actually,

981
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: thinking back my first year in Philly, we had a

982
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: young staff. I was going out on the weekends like

983
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: I had enough. Now, I didn't pay You don't pay

984
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: for food, at least in football, you don't pay for food.

985
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: My gym was free, my clothes, dry cleaning, all this

986
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: stuff was free. Uh, so you're able to cut some

987
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: costs working in professional sports. I do think this, and listen,

988
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a kid. I don't

989
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: know if you have a wife. So I can only

990
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: speak from my truth. My truth was I could handle

991
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: it because I got in at a really, really young

992
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: age and I didn't need any money. I would not

993
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: be able to do that now, right, I think the

994
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: longer you just make excuses in your head I can't

995
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: work for next to nothing, that it's gonna be over.

996
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a shot. Because when I got

997
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: to the NFL do Staley. Now, granted, he had already

998
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: made money when he got into coaching. He started as

999
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: a coaching intern, worked a year as a coaching intern.

1000
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: My guests with the Eagles paid him like three to

1001
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: your forty grant. Now, again, he had money because he

1002
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: had played in the NFL. But he was willing to

1003
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: do that. You know, Matt Naggie famously quit a real

1004
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: estate job with a family. I mean, Matt Nagie's got

1005
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: like four or five kids. Think he's got four boys,

1006
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: maybe five boys, definitely four boys, married, was making like

1007
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: six figures, just quit playing in the a f L,

1008
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: quit the job and took like a thirty dollar job

1009
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, give or take. It might have been

1010
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: more than that, might have been a little less, and

1011
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: did it and he was probably, you know, thirty ten

1012
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: years ago. I bet he was thirty two thirty three

1013
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: years old when he did it. So either just gotta

1014
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: dive all the way in and figure it out or

1015
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: just don't ever do it. But it's one of those

1016
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: things if you're gonna have regrets about it, sucks like

1017
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I Luckily I don't have any regrets. People have to asked, like,

1018
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: do you want to go back, Like, no, I don't.

1019
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I like my life's way better now. I like doing

1020
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: what I do now more. But I'm also glad that

1021
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: I did it because I remember in college like I

1022
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: really want I wanted to work in the in pro

1023
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: sports so bad. Even before I got to the NFL,

1024
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I just want to work in pro sports. I didn't

1025
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: necessarily know how to get there. I actually thought it

1026
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: was gonna work in Major League Baseball, and then the

1027
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: football thing just kind of took off and I got lucky.

1028
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: I got trained by the right guys, I got pretty

1029
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: good at it, but I just wanted to work in

1030
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: pro sports. And then after I did it, I was like, yeah,

1031
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, it was It was cool from the fact

1032
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: that I made really close friends, some younger guys in

1033
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: the league that I call really good buddies. I got

1034
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: to work for obviously a fantastic head coach, super Bowl

1035
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: winning GM, all these guys I can text at any

1036
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: moment like that special part. But the actual football stuff,

1037
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: like some of it to me was like, yeah, you know,

1038
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Even

1039
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: though it was, I was glad I did it. I

1040
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: don't have regrets, even though there's I don't know if

1041
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: there's an amount of money. If you go middle coff,

1042
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: I'll pay you a million dollars to go beat the

1043
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: bushes and drive around scout players like that doesn't sound

1044
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: very fun to me, but at the time it sounded

1045
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: like all I wanted to do, and I did it.

1046
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: It was cool, accomplished, it was fun. Right, So I

1047
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 1: just think you don't ever want to regrets in life.

1048
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: But I I can't speak for your financial situation. Um

1049
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: quicker you do it, though, the easier it is to

1050
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: get past like that first year making no money because

1051
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: the reality is the entry level positions. It's just supply

1052
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: and demand. Uh, they don't have to pay much. The

1053
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: craziest thing about Dak's contract is how it changes the market.

1054
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: What do you think of the Derek Carr contracts? Well,

1055
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr and Dak have a lot of similarities.

1056
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: If you put them on really good teams, you can

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Speaker 1: win double digit games and make the playoffs. Uh, if

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Speaker 1: you put them on bad teams, you're probably gonna win

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Speaker 1: less than nine or ten games. Right Historically they have.

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Speaker 1: But Derek makes half as much as Dak. Prescott now,

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Speaker 1: Like if I was Derek Carr and there were rumors

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Speaker 1: that the Raiders might extend them under no circumstances. Let

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Speaker 1: me repeat, zero circumstances. I'm signing extension because I go

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Speaker 1: Holy Mother of God, If Derek Carr were a free

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Speaker 1: agent right now, what would the Bears are Washington Football

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Speaker 1: team offer Derek Carr? How would he not make dollars

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Speaker 1: a Year's why Derek makes twenty I mean, easily one

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Speaker 1: of the best deals in football for a guy that's

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Speaker 1: not on a rookie contract. I appreciate everyone. Listen, have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Let's get ready for free agency and

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Speaker 1: uh enjoy the Players Championship. I have a little I

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Speaker 1: have some cash, many players I can't wait to watch.

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Speaker 1: That's what I will be doing this weekend, probably drinking

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Speaker 1: and watching the Players Championship. If you if you want

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Speaker 1: to holler at me, DM me um and have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. Audios, God speed, see us soon.