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Speaker 3: Forty two days away from the NFL Draft. It is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we got everybody else out. We boxed them

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Speaker 4: Finally, now we can talk about Jalen Wright for sixty

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Speaker 2: Let's excited, do it?

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Speaker 3: Jalen Wright and Bucky Irving. That is what we're going

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Speaker 3: to do for the next hour. Here of the Draft Show,

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Speaker 3: Brian Brought is taking the day to go fishing with

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Speaker 3: his son Bennett. I hope he enjoys that love that.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully Ayisha starts to feel better soon, of course. Kyle busy,

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Speaker 3: busy man. Busy busy man. That Kyle yeomens. But they'll

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Speaker 3: be rejoining us, I'm sure on Tuesday. But we had

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Speaker 3: some big news going down yesterday. I know you have

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Speaker 3: an article up on Dallas Cowboy Cowboys making a signing

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Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks, a linebacker. Big question now is that going

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Speaker 3: to change things from the draft. But what stands out

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Speaker 3: to you about the Cowboys signing Eric Kendricks, who certainly

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Speaker 3: has a good connection and familiarity with Mike Zimmer Cowboys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, just kind of walking you through

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Speaker 4: the day yesterday we were yesterday morning, we all woke

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Speaker 4: up thinking Eric Hendricks would be a San Francisco forty

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Speaker 4: whenever the legal tampering period was going on earlier in

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Speaker 4: the week. And then you know, as the day went on,

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Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer made a call and Eric Kendricks made a call,

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Speaker 4: and sure enough the two were able to agree on

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Speaker 4: a deal before last night. And when I walked out

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Speaker 4: of the building yesterday, there wasn't any buzz about anything.

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Speaker 2: That's why I left the building.

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Speaker 4: And when I was on my way home on the road,

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Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks news drops. So these things come together fast,

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Speaker 4: and this was definitely one that I think helps the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys in the long run. For sure, we know that

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Speaker 4: they needed a presence there in the second level, and

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Speaker 4: not only a presence, but they needed a big, reliable

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Speaker 2: Eric Hendricks is on the back half of his career.

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Speaker 2: I think I think.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can agree on that his best football is behind him,

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Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean that he cannot be productive for

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Speaker 4: this defense. And they just need somebody to fill those

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Speaker 4: linebacker to do there in the second level. I think

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Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks gives them that they didn't have it last year.

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Speaker 4: I think if you throw a presence like Eric hendrickson

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Speaker 4: for the playoff game against Screen Bay, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: it's a different result, but they're having to change some

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Speaker 4: things with that running game. Aeron Jones probably doesn't have

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Speaker 4: as productive of a day as he'd had. Eric Hendricks

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Speaker 4: comes to the Cowboys eight straight seasons with one hundred

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Speaker 4: plus tackles. In that same stretch, the Cowboys have only

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Speaker 3: So that's an amazing STATA think it what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, a lot of those are safeties too, which

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Speaker 3: But struggled with injuries, you know, you've had a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for Eric Hendricks, we're talking about on

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Speaker 4: field presence. We're talking about the run stopping, we talk

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Speaker 4: about filling the gaps. I'm talking about leadership aspect as well,

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Speaker 4: He can quarterback that defense. He knows what that defense is.

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Speaker 4: He played in it for eight seasons under Mike or

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Speaker 4: seven seasons under Mike Zimmer in Minnesota. He was drafted

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Speaker 4: by Mike Zimmer. Those two have a really good relationship,

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the most.

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Speaker 4: Important piece that he brings, is that leadership aspect and

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Speaker 4: His best football is behind him, but I think he

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the IQ, the ability to readiagnose react certainly.

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Speaker 3: speaking the same language. Eric Kendricks is going to help

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Speaker 3: and I know you mentioned you've gotten that a lot.

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Speaker 3: I've seen that too, does this end up changing the

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Speaker 3: You certainly still have Demarvin overshown, but expecting most likely

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Speaker 3: I think absolutely linebacker is still in play in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it is talking about the linebacker room really quick.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned to Marvin Overshown coming back from that ACL injury.

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Speaker 4: The expectation is that he'll be back in time for

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Speaker 4: well from his days at Texas because he played in

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Speaker 4: the third level, he played in the second level, he

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Speaker 4: already clicking with Mike Zimmer. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: And then Demon Clark being able to bring what he

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Speaker 4: When only one healthy linebacker is left on the fifty

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Speaker 2: It's not just going to be Eric Kendricks.

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Speaker 4: Only two thirty visits have been reported so far, and

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Speaker 4: it's Trevin Wallace linebacker out of Kentucky and Edrin Cooper

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Speaker 4: Does it become less of a priority maybe because you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you absolutely do. And I think that's interesting with

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Speaker 3: Eddrian Cooper. I think we're both on the same page,

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Speaker 3: I know you mentioned that was a formal visit, yeah,

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Speaker 3: watching him after you mentioned that he was a formal visit.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Tyron Hopper, I compared him to Mike mcfatten

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Speaker 4: Really long frame that I think is it really shows

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Speaker 4: He probably lacks the instincts that you want there in

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Speaker 4: the second level. He doesn't feel run lanes correctly every

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Speaker 4: I bank on those traits. I bank on that length

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Speaker 4: still gonna be some guys. I mean you mentioned Jalen Ford,

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Speaker 4: a potential around three round four option. Trevin Wallace, as

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Speaker 3: I got thrushed in.

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Speaker 4: I think I did. So we're just gonna roll with it.

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Speaker 3: He's just so raw. He just doesn't know what he's doing, yes,

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Speaker 4: I put in my notes he's a downhill runner with

436
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Speaker 4: intriguing three down ability, although I don't trust it. And

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Speaker 4: it's because whenever you see him run out into open

438
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Speaker 4: field outside of the tackles, literally as he's running out

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Speaker 4: in the open field here, but whenever you get him

440
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Speaker 4: outside of the tackles, he doesn't have that consistent production

441
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Speaker 4: that you would see out of Isaac Grindo or one

442
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Speaker 4: of these other even one of these other big backs.

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Speaker 4: And as I'm saying this, man, Beam's just firing out

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Speaker 4: every outside run that he can find in the film

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Speaker 4: back there.

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you a little bit there. On Jawar Jordan.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I might disagree with you with is

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Speaker 4: I think he does have complimentary back potential. I think

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Speaker 4: he can come in and be able to be a

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Speaker 4: complimentary back in the system, just kind of depending on

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Speaker 4: whatever back that you getting free agency. If you're looking

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Speaker 4: at it from a Cowboys perspective, he might be an

453
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Speaker 4: intriguing guy to have in those red zone red zone

454
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Speaker 4: opportunities like you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: And the receiving ability. You just saw a highlight there

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Speaker 3: if you're watching it, he does have that to be

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Speaker 3: able to help out. But to me, he's a guy

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Speaker 3: that you know, I just I think in an outside

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Speaker 3: zone scheme, those type of teams are gonna look at him,

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Speaker 3: whether that's in San Francisco and Miami a Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: they might look at him and be like, Okay, we

462
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Speaker 3: love him, but I don't see a super physical guy

463
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Speaker 3: to get a ton of push and short yardage, lacks

464
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Speaker 3: some power, he's long. Apparently he's a really really good

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Speaker 3: character guy as well, which I think teams are gonna like.

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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna crush the meetings. But he's got some

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Speaker 3: intriguing traits. But for me, there's just running backs in

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Speaker 4: We still got some good good questions here. This one

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Speaker 4: comes from Joe Demeyo. Give me your favorite pairing of

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Speaker 4: a veteran running back still available in free agency along

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Speaker 4: with a draft pick for the Cowboys. His example was

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Speaker 4: sign aj Dillon, draft Trey Benson. Take it wherever you

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Speaker 4: gentlemen wish. I'm gonna let you start with this one.

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Speaker 3: Zach Okay well, I do love Trey Benson. I think

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Speaker 3: Trey Benson is the top running back in this year's draft.

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Speaker 3: I am not super big on AJ Dillon. I think

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Speaker 3: he is an injury prone back, but hey, that would

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Speaker 3: be a good implement because I think Trey Benson is

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Speaker 3: a three down back. For me, you look at his

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Speaker 3: ability not only in the passing game. I love his

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Speaker 3: running style. I think he's downhill. He certainly gives you

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Speaker 3: some speed burst. I think he's got long speed home

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Speaker 3: running ability, and I think he's actually solid in pass protection.

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Speaker 3: But that's where A J. Dillon to me, excels. If

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Speaker 3: you're looking for a complimentary guy, I think AJ Dillon

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Speaker 3: can come in there and be a good pass pro.

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Speaker 3: And then maybe you're looking at more of a speed player.

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Speaker 3: But I'm in on that. I mean Trey Benson to me,

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Speaker 3: he's the top back if you're drafting him. Eventually, he

550
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Speaker 3: is going to be the workhorse back in your backfield.

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Speaker 3: AJ Dillon is going to fall back into similar to

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Speaker 3: what he was behind Chris Jones there at Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Eventually that's going to be Trey Benson's RB one job

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Speaker 3: to lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and who was the free agent you're parenting with you,

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Speaker 2: said AJ Dillon.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I had to pair anybody with a free

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Speaker 3: I think Dante Foreman. I think Dante Foreman is the

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Speaker 3: one free agent pact that's out there right now that

560
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Speaker 3: I would like to bring in. I think he's used

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Speaker 3: to that. He's filled those roles in Carolina, he did

562
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Speaker 3: it last year with Chicago. He's an unselfish player. I

563
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Speaker 3: think he's also a very well rounded back. So I'd

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Speaker 3: go Foreman paired with a Benson or a Jalen Wright

565
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Speaker 3: or a Ray Davis out of Kentucky and adri est

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Speaker 3: Tom whichever running back that you want to get. But

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Speaker 3: Benson's without question. If I had to take any running

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Speaker 3: back in this draft, he'd be my guy.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, this is probably the all injury duo

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Speaker 4: with JK. Dobbins and Jonathan Brooks, so that probably would

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Speaker 4: not work out. I think the ceiling would be incredibly

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Speaker 4: high with that duo, but that's not necessarily my pick.

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Speaker 4: I am going to stick with Jonathan Brooks for this

575
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Speaker 4: scenario though, and going to pair him up with AJ

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Speaker 4: Dillon and look at being firing up Jonathan Brooks. I

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Speaker 4: love what Jonathan Brooks brings and I think coming off

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Speaker 4: of the injury, he will be just fine his recovery.

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Speaker 4: We've been hearing things about it over and over again

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Speaker 4: about how he's gonna be ready for training camp. He's

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Speaker 4: going to be ready to step in whenever he's drafted

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Speaker 4: and pick up things very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Out of Halllettsville, Texas.

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Speaker 4: There in Central Texas was a really productive runner, a

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Speaker 4: top ten Texas high school football all time rusher, and

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Speaker 4: then went to Texas, had the one year as a

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Speaker 4: starter this past year and did really well and excelled.

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Speaker 4: I think if he ended up finishishing the season, he

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Speaker 4: would have been a big part of what they did

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Speaker 4: in the playoff against Washington, maybe even helps push them

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Speaker 4: to a win. But if you pair him with AJ Dillon,

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Speaker 4: then AJ Dillon he can come to the building, he

593
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Speaker 4: can bring you that veteran presence, and he kind of

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Speaker 4: serves as a buffer for Jonathan Brooks to get healthy,

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Speaker 4: to get one hundred percent back on the field. And

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Speaker 4: I think by the time you're looking up week four,

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Speaker 4: week five, you have a really talented backfield with Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Brooks probably taking on the majority of the carries, and

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Speaker 4: then you have a AJ Dillon that can take on

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Speaker 4: most of the brute force and it can kind of

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Speaker 4: take some take some stuff off of Jonathan Brooks's plate.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be a really fun pairing.

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Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is in my notes I put

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Speaker 3: for Jonathan Brooks is DeMarco Murray a crazy comp for him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I see where you're going with that.

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Speaker 4: I see you re goal with that because he can

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Speaker 4: get out an open field as the pass protection ability boy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's boom or bust. I understand where you're coming from there.

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Speaker 4: This next one comes from Christian Conte. How likely is

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Speaker 4: it that a center and a tackle are picked in

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Speaker 4: the first three rounds? If that is the case, who

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Speaker 4: would your ideal duo be? How likely is it? I

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Speaker 4: mean I put it at like seventy percent? Man, I

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Speaker 4: think you have to get as of right now where

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Speaker 4: free agency stands, you have to get those two positions

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Speaker 4: early on in the draft. You've got to have guys

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Speaker 4: that can kind of come into those scenarios and be

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Speaker 4: able to at least compete for a starting job. Who

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Speaker 4: my ideal pairing would be, Gosh, it would be getting

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Speaker 4: Amarus Mims throwing him out to left tackle, and then

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Speaker 4: you're kind of hoping Zach Frazier's there at fifty six.

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Speaker 4: But if he's not, I'm okay with Cedric Van Prang

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Speaker 4: Granger in.

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Speaker 3: The third man. That is tough. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 3: agree with you. I think it's very, very high. In fact,

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Speaker 3: i'd go like eighty percent. I think that they're most

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Speaker 3: likely coming away either picks one to two, one three.

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Speaker 3: They're going offensive line. I think in the first round.

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Speaker 3: I think, if I had to choose, I don't love

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Speaker 3: this the way that it stretches with tackles as much

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Speaker 3: as some others do. I mentioned the Yale offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: I do like quite a bit if they had to

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Speaker 3: wait on that. I'm with you on Mims, just to

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Speaker 3: be different. If he fell, I don't think he did.

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Speaker 3: My ideal solution would be Troy font Neu at a Washington,

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Speaker 3: the offensive tackle. He's absolutely fantastic. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: he'll fall. I've changed my opinion on him because I

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Speaker 3: thought the opposite of Jordan Morgan. I thought font new

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Speaker 3: is a guard and he has that build, But then

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Speaker 3: he ended up being much taller at the combine when

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Speaker 3: he went ahead and weighed in and he did his

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Speaker 3: height weight, So to me, I think he can play tackle.

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Speaker 3: He's got the athletic building. That was never a conversation

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Speaker 3: for me. At center, I'm with Jon van Prant, the

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Speaker 3: other guy, if indeed they get wiped, would be Bowlimber

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Speaker 3: at Arkansas. I always come back to bow Limmer. I

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Speaker 3: love the way that he competes. Is he a little

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Speaker 3: bit smaller. Maybe people will watch what Devandre Sweat did

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Speaker 3: to him there at the Senior ball. I don't know

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00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: if you've got to see that rep. But he comes

651
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: right back and he battles his rear off right afterwards.

652
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: He's a dude. He's got great bass, strong anchor pad

653
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: leverage is something that is just natural for him. I

654
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: do love me some bow Limmer. If indeed you get

655
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: wiped and you're not able to get some of these

656
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: top centers, so that'd be a tandem that would excite me.

657
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: Is fought new and Limmer.

658
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: Okay, this is an interesting scenario here from Anthony O'Donnell.

659
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: He says, in this scenario, you're trading back in the

660
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: first and picking up a pick or two. Okay, if

661
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: Sweat is still on the board around fifty or so,

662
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 4: do you trade up and grab him with those extra

663
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: two picks that you kind of have as a buffer

664
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: to be able to do that? Now if you don't

665
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: get extra picks. This is probably not a scenario, but

666
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: a Devandre Sweat is sitting there and you see a

667
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 4: defensive tackle with his size, with his ability that could

668
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: definitely help you on day one.

669
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: Do you do that in that scenario?

670
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

671
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Man, I think that I need my picks. Yeah, so

672
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no. I like T. Sweat, but to me,

673
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: he's not a player that I'm going to be aggressive

674
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: to move up and get. To be honest, the defensive

675
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: tackle that would get me a little bit more fired

676
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: up that I'm saying. Goodness, gracious, I can't deny how

677
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: delicious his tape is. Is Braydon Fisk from Florida State

678
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: that guy. I mean, he's got some of the most

679
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: eye popping, wowing tape that you will see in the

680
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: entire class. I love T. Sweat. He's got a really

681
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: really rare combination of size and speed. But his beamer's

682
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: doing an excellent job going back and forth. Brydon Fisk

683
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: is just a playmaker. I think you add an ability

684
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: to come in wide, strong build inside the middle to

685
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: help against the run, but he's got way more upside

686
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: as a pass rusher. To me, he's violent, he's dominant,

687
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: high character guy. Leader of that defense there at Florida

688
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: State that was absolutely exceptional. I love Braydon Fisk. I'd

689
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: consider moving up to go and get him. I don't

690
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: think I would for Defandre Sweat. But the big thing is,

691
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: I just think you need those picks and you could

692
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: address defensive tackle if you wanted to a little bit later.

693
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: And they look like that's where they're going to go

694
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: because I know you did an excellent job hustle and

695
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: trying to figure out some names. They were talking to,

696
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: Mason Smith out of LSU being one of those guys,

697
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson in a Texas A and m to me,

698
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: those are early day three guys. I think that's where

699
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: they're going to address defensive tackle. Yeah.

700
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: Complete defensive tackle list that they interviewed at the combine

701
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: formally Christiankin's out of Michigan, Brandon Dorles out of Oregon,

702
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: to Andandre Sweat out of Texas, Rooque or Ro out

703
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: of Clemson, McKinley Jackson out of Texas A and m

704
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: Mason Smith out of La Shoe and Michael Hall Junior

705
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: out of Ohio State, so they spend a lot of

706
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: time at that position in Indianapolis. This next one comes

707
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: from Anthony Gibbs. With the lack of free agent signings

708
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: and missing the fourth fifth round pick, Granty, you get

709
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: the fifth back in the comp but I see where

710
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: you're going. Would you consider trading back from both your

711
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: first and your second to gain extra picks? He says

712
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: he feels like it's a must this year. I don't

713
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: think it's a must. I think trading back in your

714
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: in the first round, yeah, it's a high possibility. I

715
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: think if you're looking there at pick twenty one and

716
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: a lot of these tackles are flying off the board,

717
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: Jackson Powers, Johnson's off the board, and you see an

718
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: opportunity to move back three or four spots to still

719
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: pick up a Graham Barton or still pick up a

720
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 4: Jordan Morgan. I think that's a very very realistic option

721
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: as we look up on April twenty fifth. But doing

722
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: it in the second round, I don't necessarily feel that

723
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: because whenever you look at the second round value and

724
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: the guys that they can get at that pick at

725
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: fifty six every single time, whether it be a Zach

726
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: Frazier or a Eddrian Cooper to Andre Sweat, it's like, gosh,

727
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: I wish we were about six picks earlier. And I

728
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: don't feel like you're going to have that luxury whenever

729
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: you're sitting there at fifty six, because if you move

730
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: back three or four spots, you're probably going to miss

731
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: out on three or four guys you.

732
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: Would have drafted.

733
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you can move back in the

734
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: second round. I agree with your first round. I get it.

735
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: There is a scenario where you can move back. Maybe

736
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: you're still able to get a Tyler Guyton out of Oklahoma.

737
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: You know another name in the second round that I

738
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: think would be in play if he's there and you're

739
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: not able to address center would be Christian Haines from Yukon. Yes,

740
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: love me some Christian Haynes. I know you've been high

741
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: on him as well. You know I do love Bebe

742
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: as well. But I think Christian Haynes athletically would be

743
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: able to kick over and play center better than Cooper

744
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: Beebe would when you compare the two of them. So

745
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you can move back in the second round.

746
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm okay with sliding back a couple of picks. I've

747
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: seen some mock trades that I do like with the Cowboys,

748
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: specifically flipping maybe it's Buffalo there at twenty eight because

749
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: I think that's where maybe you can still get Graham

750
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Barton in play and sign me up for that. I

751
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: love me some Graham Barton. He's still the apple of

752
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: my eye among these offensive linemen. So yeah, I mean

753
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm in on sliding back on day one. I think

754
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: that's ultimately going to give you enough draft capital so

755
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about that on day two.

756
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

757
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: Being firing up Christian Haynes here out of Ukon, we

758
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: talked about his versatility as a guard but also playing

759
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: at center, and he got some center reps at the

760
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl and shined in those in those reps. If

761
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: y'all recall the Senior Bowl rep where Jordan Jefferson and

762
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: him kind of got into it and Jordan Jefferson threw

763
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: his helmet around. That was Christian Haynes, but a really

764
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: high character.

765
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Dude as well. He'd be awesome off the field.

766
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: Our next question here comes from my guy Brandon Lourie,

767
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: He said, looking at a potential trade back scenario. As

768
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: we're talking about trade back scenarios, you're on the clock.

769
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: I picked number twenty four in your phone rings. It's

770
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: to Baltimore Ravens. They lost the starting guard and traded

771
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: their right tackle in free agency. Graham Barton and Amarius

772
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: Men's are on the board, and you feel like they're

773
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: going to take them. But Baltimore offers you picks thirty,

774
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: so they have thirty in the first round and two fourths,

775
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: which is one thirteen and one thirty five to trade back.

776
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: Do you do it?

777
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: Risking both offensive linemen not being their six and if

778
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: you miss out it's an out of conference team. You

779
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: might not feel so bad losing those players, but potential

780
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: of losing Graham Barton and Amarius Mems picking up pick

781
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: thirty and two fourth round picks.

782
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing that one. It's Baltimore and you

783
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: know that just good foot players always follow them every

784
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: year we're doing this, we're looking well. Of course, of

785
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: course that ends up being a Baltimore Raven. No, if

786
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: Mary's Mems is there at twenty four, I'm running the

787
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: card in I'm not hesitating. To me, He's probably the

788
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: best case scenario if you want one of these offensive tackles,

789
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: just because you look at the talent. The upside, if

790
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: the Cowboys evaluate him and say, hey, that's our dude

791
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: in the first round, they know what they're doing. They

792
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: clearly hit on first round offensive linemen all the time.

793
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: And his tape I get it. You know, that's a

794
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: question I've been asking a lot the eight games. Does

795
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: that make you nervous? Know, it doesn't, because when you

796
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: look at the games that he played and you see

797
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: the talent is there. Against Ohio State in that playoff matchup,

798
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: he was absolutely outstanding. There's times where he gets out

799
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: there in space and he's so darn big and athletic.

800
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: I think he's just with the lack of awareness, in

801
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: the lack of playing time where he's not sure who

802
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: do I need a blog? But I think with coaching

803
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: the upside, Amarus Mims has everything that you could possibly

804
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: want in an offensive tackle skill set. I am not

805
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: passing on him. If he's there at twenty four.

806
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to lean no on this scenario as well.

807
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: I'd probably maybe lean into it a little bit more

808
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: if it was a third and a fourth or a

809
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: second and a third.

810
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: But what if either way?

811
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: Is it which player is that's making you say I

812
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: can't I can't get off of this? Is it Mems?

813
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 2: It's Memes? Yeah? So it because I feel like Barton

814
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: could be there at thirty.

815
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah I do too. I do too. If it's Mems

816
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: sub him out with Geiton, are you willing to make

817
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: the trade? Duh, Yeah, Mims is gone. It's Geiton or Barton.

818
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: I still don't feel great about it. Gosh, that's tough.

819
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: That was tough because I go back.

820
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: I'll make the trade. Then I go back, and I'm

821
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: not sold on Guiden as much as as some others,

822
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: and I like him, but I feel much better if

823
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: I were able to get an extra pick slide back.

824
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: I'll take the risk on Mems because I think that

825
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: the trades are rare with him. With Geyiton, I see

826
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: definitely a player that played a lot more transferd from

827
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: TCU to Oklahoma for those that don't know. But I'm

828
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 3: not as optimistic and confident in his ability. I certainly

829
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: would not be upset if he was to pick at

830
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: twenty four. There's traits and things that I like about

831
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: Guiden's game, but I'd feel much better about adding those

832
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: picks and moving back in that scenario, it's Memes that

833
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm not wanting to get off of.

834
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: Then I'll fall on the trust of my trusted mid

835
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: south A scout A Zach walchok Am, I right, and

836
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: I'll trade back.

837
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it dating, Let's do that.

838
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: Let's let's get on the phone, Baltimore. We're gonna go

839
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: ahead and make that trade. Rank Memes is off the board.

840
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: We have any others? One more?

841
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could throw it in one more. I'm going

842
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: to kind of alter this question a little bit. This

843
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: one comes from Mike Crimmins. He said, with the current

844
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: contract situation, is there any chance had a quarterback in

845
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: round one a round two?

846
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: No?

847
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: However, Day three Caleb Williams false.

848
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I've been seeing mock drafts that like see

849
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: jayde and Daniels slide. I don't know if it's like

850
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: a pff air or what, but he keeps showing up

851
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 4: there twenty four. He's not gonna be there at twenty four, guys,

852
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. If he's there at ten, I will

853
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: do what Kyle did a few years back, whenever Ceede

854
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: Lamb got drafted. I mean it's he's whatever he did. Yeah,

855
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: actually I would die. I'm not gonna do that. I'm

856
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: not shaking on that. Uh, kudos to Kyle. He's a

857
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: better man than me. But I do want to talk

858
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: about Day three quarterback options because I think there could.

859
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Be an opportunity to do that.

860
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: Looking at Michael Pratt out of Tulane, that is someone

861
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 4: that this the scouting department is taking a look at.

862
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: He's productive in his years there in Uptown, New Orleans.

863
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: He's productive, he's clean, he doesn't make any mistakes. He

864
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: you look at all of the weapons that have come

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Speaker 4: out of that offense, Ti J. Spears, Jakwan Jackson. He's

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Speaker 4: a game manager, impressive pocket presence. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 4: a fifty three man roster for whatever team drafts him.

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Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a firm believer in that, and I

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Speaker 4: think he's a fourth fifth round option that I think

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Speaker 4: if he's sitting there and the Cowboys have addressed their needs,

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Speaker 4: they're looking at looking around at the quarterback room, won

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Speaker 4: a little bit more of a competition there. Go get

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Speaker 4: a guy, a trusted guy like Michael Pratt, high floor

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Speaker 4: guy that I think will start some games in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Agreed with you. I think if you they said on

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Speaker 3: any of these top guys, Pratt is the dude for me.

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Speaker 3: Another name, just just to throw out there that you

878
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Speaker 3: might want to keep an eye on. Carter Bradley, quarterback

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Speaker 3: from South Alabama. Just a small school player.

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Speaker 2: I have a funny story about him. Go ahead.

881
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: I like his moxie. I like the way he plays

882
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: the game. I mean, he's a dude that the velocity.

883
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: At times I'm like, Okay, how did that ball just

884
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: get there? But he's able to make all the throws.

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Speaker 3: He's got a little bit of mobility. I like the

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Speaker 3: way he navigates the pocket. Carter Bradley, if you're just

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Speaker 3: looking for a flyer, that would be a Day three pick.

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Speaker 3: But there's no way Cowboys are taking somebody in the

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Speaker 3: first or second round at the quarterback position in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: unless there's just a rare scenario where somebody does have

891
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Speaker 3: an Aaron Rodgers like slide. I don't see that happening

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Speaker 3: in this year's draft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The at the Senior Bowl, which is at the University

895
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Speaker 4: of South Alabama, where Carter Bradley played. He I was

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Speaker 4: talking with one of my scout friends kind of as

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Speaker 4: we were walking in and we were watching the quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: kind of warm up, and we're kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's that's so, and so, that's so, and so that's

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Speaker 4: who's that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah is that?

902
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Speaker 4: Oh he's got a South Alabama hat on? So this

903
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Speaker 4: is like to make a wish kid like, that's the

904
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Speaker 4: That's what we were talking about. And then once they

905
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Speaker 4: get going in practice and you see.

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Speaker 3: This you can play six three.

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Speaker 4: Minute and I kind of looked to it. I was like,

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Speaker 4: hey man, this is not this is not that at

909
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Speaker 4: all like this this kid can throw it. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I like Carter Bradley as well. I think he gets drafted.

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Speaker 3: I'm also surprised Sam Hartman with the hair. You know,

912
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Speaker 3: he's just not getting more ve Sam Hartboard far quad

913
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Speaker 3: what what a crazy scenario. He was mocked to go

914
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Speaker 3: in the first round a lot of the time when

915
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Speaker 3: you were looking preseason, and now he's looking like maybe

916
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Speaker 3: he's a six to seventh round pick. That's also a

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Speaker 3: name that maybe a team, it'd probably be a solid

918
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Speaker 2: I said that he won't win you a game, but

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Speaker 3: All right, let's have some fun with this. We've got

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Speaker 3: three different three round mock draft scenarios. I've put this together.

975
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Speaker 3: I've even put some of the other options for each

976
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Speaker 3: pick that we're still on the board. But first let's

977
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Speaker 3: go through witch stack of three. Do you prefer here?

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris mock Draft number one, twenty fourth pick, Cowboys

979
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Speaker 3: take Tyler Geiton, offensive tackle out of Oklahoma. They circle

980
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Speaker 3: back in the second round at fifty six, they take

981
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Speaker 3: Junior Colson, linebacker out of Michigan and then in the

982
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Speaker 3: third round, pick eighty seven, Trey Benson, running back out

983
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Speaker 3: of Florida. So they get Geiton Colson Benson. That is

984
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: a pretty nice stack of three players right there.

985
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Speaker 2: I don't love Guiden, as we mentioned, but I like

986
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Speaker 2: this pairing of players. Let's keep going here.

987
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Speaker 3: Okay, number two scenario pick twenty four.

988
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: Really quick? Do you think Benson's there in the third No,

989
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

990
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't think Benson makes to the third round. I

991
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: think that's wishful thing. You can't get that. Mock draft

992
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: pick twenty four, Brian Thomas, junior wide receiver out of LSU.

993
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Speaker 3: Cowboys decide, Hey, maybe this is a scenario they're wiped

994
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: out on tackle. We're gonna go with the wide receiver,

995
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: the playmaker to stretch the field pick fifty six. Then

996
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 3: they go with Trey Benson, running back at a Florida state.

997
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: Think that's more likely. And in the third round, pick

998
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: eighty seven, they address linebacker Cedric Gray, linebacker at North Carolina,

999
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: which I know you like. You worry about his fit.

1000
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: Maybe you feel better about the fit now that they've

1001
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: addressed with the Rick Hendricks, we got Thomas Benson Gray.

1002
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: That was a question that was in the twitter on

1003
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Speaker 4: the twenty replies, I want to address that really quick.

1004
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: I do feel a little bit better with that. Okay,

1005
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I do feel a little bit. I

1006
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: don't feel great still, but I feel a little bit

1007
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: better with that.

1008
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Speaker 3: I kind of love the idea of him learning under Kendricks. Yeah,

1009
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Speaker 3: that excites me a lot. Mock Draft three Troy Fotten

1010
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: New offensive tackle that old Washington at twenty four does

1011
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: slide to the Cowboys. Okay, fifty six they address center

1012
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: Cedric van Pranz center out of Georgia, and then at

1013
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: pick eighty seven Jonathan Brooks, running back in Texas. So

1014
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: your three sets here, You've got Geyiton, Colson, Benson, Bryan

1015
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: Thomas junior, Trey Benson, Cedric Gray, and then the offensive

1016
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Speaker 3: tackle font New, the center Van Pran and the running

1017
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Speaker 3: back Jonathan Brooks. All three fun scenarios. Then we can

1018
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Speaker 3: go through in debate, would we have still taken these

1019
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: players based on who else was available?

1020
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Speaker 2: Okay? With with scenario one here with Geyton Colson Benson,

1021
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: you're you're addressing some needs.

1022
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: You don't necessarily get your center. With the second one,

1023
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: with Thomas Junior, Benson Gray. You're not addressing a lot

1024
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: of needs at all. The offensive line is still very

1025
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: very much a big concern. You're gonna have to go

1026
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: into Day two, Day three with just straight offensive line

1027
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Speaker 4: and hope you hit on one or two of those.

1028
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Speaker 4: The third one you address both offensive line needs and

1029
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Speaker 4: you get a running back. Oh man, this one's tough.

1030
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lean towards. I'm gonna lead towards this third one.

1031
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: Font New Van Pran Brooks, and I think if you

1032
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Speaker 4: gave me a better tackle than Guidon in that first scenario,

1033
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Speaker 4: then I'll probably roll with that one. But I trust Fontineau.

1034
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Speaker 4: I think he can come in and be a dog

1035
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Speaker 4: at left tackle. I also think he can kind of

1036
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Speaker 4: work with Tyler Smith to figure out who is the

1037
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Speaker 4: best left tackle slash left guard.

1038
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Speaker 2: Van Prant.

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Speaker 4: I think with a year or two under his belt,

1040
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Speaker 4: he's going to be a really good starting center in

1041
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Speaker 4: this league. And then Jonathan Brooks, y'all know how I

1042
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 4: feel about him.

1043
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: So you address some needs, you get some high impact

1044
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: guys as far as year one, I will say though

1045
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Speaker 2: that that scenario too, I'm looking at it and I'm

1046
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: looking my chops a little bit, but you have to

1047
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Speaker 2: be okay with the fact that you probably don't make

1048
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: the playoffs next year if you draft those three gaps.

1049
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because those three players are really really good. Yeah,

1050
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think that the best tackle,

1051
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: the best first round pick out of the bunch is

1052
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Speaker 3: Troy fott New the OFFENSEI tackle from Washington. I'm in

1053
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Speaker 3: on Van Pran to me. I mean, he's a guy

1054
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: that won back to back national championships and he anchored

1055
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Speaker 3: the center of that line. You've seen him go against

1056
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: some big body defensive tackles during the as you see

1057
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: holds his own. I think he's got some strength, maybe

1058
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: the athleticism, something you're not grading as high as Jackson

1059
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: power shots. Maybe even a Zach Frasier in this draft.

1060
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: But I like Van Prayn. I think he would be

1061
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: a solid option there at fifty six. I prefer him

1062
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: in the third round at eighty seven. Make fifty six

1063
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: might be a little high, I agree, but you might.

1064
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 3: You know, if you're looking at a situation where, look,

1065
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: all the centers are gone, I want to make sure

1066
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: I get one that's a solid option. Then Jonathan Brooks

1067
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Speaker 3: at eighty seven. I love. I think that's the sweet

1068
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: spot for him, if I don't have to reach and

1069
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: take him in the second because there's a run on

1070
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 3: running backs. If I can get Jonathan Brooks at eighty seven,

1071
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: I feel really really good about it.

1072
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: Do you don't feel like he's the first one off

1073
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: the board.

1074
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Benson.

1075
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but I think he's first three at least.

1076
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're the first two. But I think

1077
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 3: there's a debate. I think some teams might have Jonathan

1078
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: Brooks as their number one running back. I think a

1079
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: lot would if it weren't for the injury. I just wonder,

1080
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: and look, if he's going to be available for training

1081
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: camp and the medicals clear out, teams aren't worried about it.

1082
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: He very well could be the first one off the board.

1083
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1084
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: I think the running back run there in the second round,

1085
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: wherever it begins, I think it's going to kick off

1086
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: around forty to forty five. That's when you're going to

1087
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: see where these running backs are valued as far as

1088
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 4: the draft process and kind of how they play out.

1089
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: But Brooks being there at eighty seven, Yeah, that would

1090
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: be too good to pass up.

1091
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: Which one of those scenarios do you want to talk about?

1092
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: Who else was available? See if we agree with these picks.

1093
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go with that first one, the first one. Okay,

1094
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: what tackle was available there at twenty four?

1095
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: So Geyton was the only tackle, but you did have

1096
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 3: Zach Frazier available the center from Western Michigan or West Virginia.

1097
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Graham Barton was available from Duke and like

1098
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: to lot to Hedge from UCLA.

1099
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't It doesn't make me bite, but that's fascinating.

1100
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: Which I wondered wonderfully.

1101
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Sue a Matilla available.

1102
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: Kingsley, Sue Matia was available. Would you go Sue Matia

1103
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: over Geyton?

1104
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: No?

1105
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: But I think that's an opportunity where you could potentially

1106
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 4: trade back, pick up a couple of spots.

1107
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Jordan Morgan was he available?

1108
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: No?

1109
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's an.

1110
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: Opportunity where you could trade back, pick a couple of picks,

1111
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: and and kind of plug.

1112
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: In Sue Matia as you as you feel necessary.

1113
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: But I like Guiden, I do would take I don't

1114
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: want to say that I'm out on Guiden. I just

1115
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: think he's going to take a little bit of development.

1116
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: He's going to really piss off some fans wherever he

1117
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: goes and in his rookie year. But I think as

1118
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: he develops and as he gets better, I think he's

1119
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 4: going to be an All pro And.

1120
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: In what way is he going to be ticking fans on?

1121
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's a lack of development.

1122
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: It's a lack of experience there at the tackle position,

1123
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: especially if you're moving him to the left side. You

1124
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: just got to be able to account for those things.

1125
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit of all that he plays with.

1126
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: The high pad level guys are going to get under him,

1127
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: He's going to struggle against athletic pass rushers, and he's

1128
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: just gonna have to be able to kind of account

1129
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: for that.

1130
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: It's interesting. My highest graded player out of those is

1131
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: a lot too. So if I'm not window address on

1132
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: the board, Ryan Rodis would say, I'm taking light two

1133
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: a lot too. In that scenario, that doesn't make you

1134
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: bite at all.

1135
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: It does. You just don't need that in the first round, don't.

1136
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: But I mean don't. Yeah.

1137
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see we're doing VPA, and we're doing VPA.

1138
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: Let's say you take a lots too.

1139
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: I've also got Barton ahead of Guiden, so I think

1140
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: it'd be between Bartner a lot too for me. And

1141
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: that's what you know in that scenario.

1142
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: Let's say you take a lot to a lot two

1143
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Colson Benson. You have no offensive line that you know there,

1144
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: I know.

1145
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: You're you're pretty screwed. Yeah, okay, so here here's how

1146
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: this falls. All right. So let's let's say we took

1147
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: a lot too for fun, pick fifty six, they go

1148
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: junior Colson. You'll also have Kean Coleman wide receiver Florida

1149
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: State on the board.

1150
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: At fifty six.

1151
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: At fifty six, I know, shocking uh to Andre Sweat,

1152
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 3: Texas defensive tackle and Mike Sanders still the cornerback from

1153
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: Michigan hopefully I said his last name, right.

1154
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking uh oh Man. I think I'm still

1155
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: taking Colson there. But Sweat is making the sweat is

1156
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: making me go back and forth.

1157
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: Sw what's making Sweat.

1158
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: Is what's making me sweat a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

1159
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Colson. I think he's more of the

1160
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: sure thing.

1161
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: If I'm going. Based on my board again, it's Coleman,

1162
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: and I know we're an addressed all needs. It's you know,

1163
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: if I'm if I'm not window drest and I'm going BPA.

1164
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: It's a lot too. It's Coleman that those would be

1165
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 3: my two picks for a Cowboys perspective, if I'm taking

1166
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: all things considered, Yeah, I'd be interested in Sweat to

1167
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: be honest, out of these three players, Sweat's my third. Yeah,

1168
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: which stinks, But I think for me, I'm going I

1169
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta stay true, gotta stay true to the board.

1170
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: Here we look up four years from now, how are

1171
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: we feeling? This isn't about right now? I'm trying to

1172
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: draft some all pros law too, Coleman number three at

1173
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: when they take Benson, Patrick Paul tackle from Houston's available,

1174
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: Cedric van Prant center from George's available, Chris Abrams drain

1175
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 3: cornerback from Missoo.

1176
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you could talk me into anything other

1177
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: than Benson here.

1178
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, even if we don't have any linemen, we've

1179
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: gone law to, We've gone you go tea Sweat.

1180
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

1181
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: You kind of already given into the fact you just

1182
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 4: said you may as well just go ahead and take

1183
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: your running back you be able to run through the

1184
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 4: between the tackles, but he might in a couple of years.

1185
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, I think in this scenario, you're right,

1186
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: Benson's my top guy, and I don't. I'm looking at

1187
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: this and I'm thinking, who the heck am I gonna

1188
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: have to block? But I guess we're gonna rock with TJ.

1189
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: Bass and Brock. Yeah, and we're just gonna line up

1190
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 3: and say, let's party. But I do love the players

1191
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: that we've got here.

1192
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: You touched on something a little bit, and I kind

1193
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: of want to make it a deeper conversation. Let's do it,

1194
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: because I think some fans are kind of looking at

1195
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 4: it a similar way. You look at how they've addressed

1196
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: free agency, You look at the needs around the around

1197
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: the building going into the draft that you would you

1198
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: there's still a lot to play out in free agency

1199
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: in the next couple of weeks. But let's say that

1200
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: they enter the draft with what we know right now.

1201
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: Do you plan for the future? Do you plan for

1202
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: this year? I think you plan more for the future,

1203
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: and that's the case.

1204
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: You look at a scenario too, with Brian Thomas Junior,

1205
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: trade Benson and Cedric Gray. You just say, hey man,

1206
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 2: we're just not.

1207
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 4: Gonna block this year because what's what's what's the point there?

1208
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 4: You go pick up your offensive line next year, but

1209
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 4: you have really good weapons and Brian Thomas Junior and Trade.

1210
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: Benson the bill for the future. I think it's a thought.

1211
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm I'm going in on that, but

1212
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 4: fans have addressed that on Twitter with me a little bit,

1213
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: and we've had some back and forth there. If you

1214
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable about, you know, the potential of the

1215
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 4: Cowboys going into twenty twenty four, and you don't feel

1216
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: like the needs can help get them to a super

1217
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: Bowl or wherever else they feel like they can reach,

1218
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: do you just start building for the future then. Granted,

1219
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones did say that his definition of all in

1220
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: is drafting for this year. That was part of his

1221
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 4: definition is drafting for this year, not drafting for the future,

1222
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: not making.

1223
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: Moves for the future.

1224
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: So the likeliness of this happening probably not high, but

1225
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: I think I think it's something you think about.

1226
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am future. I think that's how you have

1227
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: to address when you get caught into I am drafting

1228
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: for need in this year, and I think when this

1229
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: team has run into troubles where their drafts aren't as

1230
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: good as some others. Maybe last year you look at that,

1231
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: maybe they're saying, man, we got to get better against

1232
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: the run. Mazzie Smith's our pick, Man, we really need

1233
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: we lost Dalton Schultz, We've got to go out there.

1234
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: We will need a better blocking tight end. Luke schoon

1235
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Maker's our pick. Right when you're starting to draft for

1236
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: need over trusting, good point, the evaluation and who we've

1237
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: got on our stack here, that's where you start to

1238
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: run into trouble. So, yeah, am I worried about how

1239
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna line up? Maybe? But I know that that

1240
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: I've got football players that we've graded highly that I

1241
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: think we're going to look up and have the potential

1242
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: to be Pro Bowl, maybe all pros if we hit

1243
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: on them, and we're gonna feel really good because the

1244
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: needs that I have right now are not the same

1245
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: needs I'm gonna have next year. You're telling me you

1246
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: couldn't use another receiver? Is edge not a sneaky need

1247
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 3: for this football team?

1248
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 8: You know?

1249
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: So you're still addressing your needs, You're just not maybe

1250
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: addressing your biggest glaring red flag weaknesses right now. But

1251
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: I think what the draft is all about, especially for

1252
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: this team, when it's drafting, developing, and then re signing

1253
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: your own that is a premium. Here with the Dallas Cowboys,

1254
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: we want to get to a second contract. You might

1255
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: not get that if you're going to reach for a

1256
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: player just because hey we really need a center. Oh,

1257
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: we really need an offensive tackle. If I've got like

1258
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: too lid to who I think is the best edge

1259
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: in this class fall to me at twenty four, I'm

1260
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: not passing them up.

1261
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make some good points, Sarah. I think that's

1262
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: very valid to about law too. Specifically.

1263
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: You look around the bill, You look around the room,

1264
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: Dorrin's armstrong, Dante Fowler out with the out going to Washington,

1265
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: DeMarcus Lawrence is on the back end of his career.

1266
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: You know, you would like to have a guy that

1267
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: could be that primary edge rusher opposite of Michael Parsons

1268
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: as time goes on.

1269
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wouldn't be upset with Lats.

1270
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 4: I think what I what I struggle with going any

1271
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: anywhere other than tackle in the first round is the

1272
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: fact that this tackle class is so deep, and I

1273
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: just I feel like you can get a guy there

1274
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: at twenty four, then in years past you would have

1275
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: to get it nineteen or eighteen.

1276
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: And I just feel like the value is really there,

1277
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: neat or not.

1278
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: I think it's and it just happens to be in

1279
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: need it works out for the team, But I think

1280
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: need or not going to get a tackle, especially if

1281
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: a good one like a Marius Mims, JC Latham. I'll

1282
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: throw in Tyler Guy and Jordan Morgan, Troy Fontnu. If

1283
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: one of those guys is there, take them, take.

1284
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: Them, and ultimately I think that's where it's going to be.

1285
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: And I lean taking an offensive lineman there at twenty

1286
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: four more than anything, but man, it just depends. It

1287
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: depends your slides there. The one I want to do

1288
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: with you real quick for we boggie out of here,

1289
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 3: that pick eighty seven in the second Mox scenario where

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Speaker 3: they go Cedric Ray. The other three options Braylan Trice,

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Speaker 3: Okay Edge, Ada Washington, Johnny Wilson Florida State receiver, and

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Speaker 3: Blake korm running back from Michigan. Now obviously that would

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Speaker 3: be Hey, you don't take Trey Benson in fifty six

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Speaker 3: in that scenario and you take Cooper Bebee at an I, Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: Johnny Newton, the defensive tackle from Illinois was sitting there.

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Speaker 3: You go with one of those other options, and then

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Speaker 3: you'd consider Blake Korm. But out of that stack of four,

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Speaker 3: let's say you don't have a running back yet, so

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Speaker 3: Korum's more in play. You didn't take Benson there in

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Speaker 3: the second round. Out of those four guys, Gray, Trice, Wilson, Korum,

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Speaker 3: who would you take?

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Speaker 2: This is factoring in that Benson was not taken in

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Speaker 2: the second round.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's say you went Cooper bebe out a case.

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Speaker 2: Okay, running through the four names again.

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Speaker 3: Cedric Gray linebacker, North Carolina, Brayln Trice, Edge Washington, Johnny

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Speaker 3: Wilson wide receiver Florida State, and Blake Korm running back Michigan.

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Speaker 4: I'm between Gray and Koram here. I think I go

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Speaker 4: Gray because I feel more comfortable about the running back

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Speaker 4: depth on day three than I do a linebacker depth. Gosh,

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Speaker 4: although I do feel like there's some good options there

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Speaker 4: on day three as well. I'm okay with either pick.

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Speaker 4: I really am. I think Grey gives you more longevity

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Speaker 4: than Korm. We've talked about Korm. I love Korm, I do.

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Speaker 4: I think there are concerns about how much, how many

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Speaker 4: hits he can take, can't he get to a second contract?

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Speaker 4: And if you're looking for a guy to get to

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Speaker 4: a second contract, I think Cedric Gray is probably your

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Speaker 4: better option.

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Speaker 2: So in that case, i'd probably take Gray.

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Speaker 4: But if you're looking for a guy then come in

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Speaker 4: and immediately produce year one, then you take Korm. I

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Speaker 4: think it's just kind of the The answer to that

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Speaker 4: question kind of answers what it is for.

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Speaker 3: The war room, right, I agree, I'm gonna go Cedric Gray.

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Speaker 3: I think I've got him graded higher. Honestly, Brailan Trice

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Speaker 3: would be in the conversation for me. I do like,

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Speaker 3: right there, you don't love him. I know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people that feel the same way as you do.

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Speaker 3: I think in the third round of eighty seven, that's

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Speaker 3: good value. He doesn't have a lot of bend, but

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Speaker 3: Braylan Trice, I mean the motor that I like him

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. I see more upside and potential

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Speaker 3: in terms of the pass rushing there than some others.

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Speaker 3: But ultimately I think i'd still go to Cedric Gray.

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Speaker 3: So I agree with you there there's been fun man,

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Speaker 3: Thank you for hanging out with.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we gotta do this every show. We got to

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Speaker 2: every out, Get out of boy.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the crew will be back on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Chris Beam as always, of

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Speaker 3: course U, Nick Harris, myself, Zach Walchuck, keep partying, keep

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Speaker 3: mock drafting, hit us up on the socials. Appreciate you helping.

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Speaker 3: That's a wrap for this edition of The Draft Show.

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