Speaker 1: Oh, rain drums. We have a I'm gonna call this
Speaker 1: an emergency episode, but in the best way possible because
Speaker 1: I am here with Gibson. You know, he and I
Speaker 1: love to gab about all things reality television, and today
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 2: Some very incredible news to share. Gibson, how's it going
Speaker 2: now that we hear to have this news? It's going
Speaker 2: even better? You know, I'm a happy boy right now.
Speaker 1: I'm like Anti with the Fifth Bump.
Speaker 2: You know, I have watched that Carlos, I think probably
Speaker 2: two hundred times this week. It is like serotonin boost.
Speaker 2: It is so good that clip. Are you kidding? Now?
Speaker 2: What else is going on? Like? It's just the reaction
Speaker 2: to the drop is insane. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: It's no so good and so good. We have a
Speaker 1: little announcement to make that was rumored for a minute,
Speaker 1: so listen, give uson and I are here not only
Speaker 1: to give y' all the tea, We're also here to
Speaker 1: give y'all the backstory as well. So for I would
Speaker 1: say for the past couple of years, maybe three years,
Speaker 1: you know, we have wanted million dollar listing star Tracy Tudor, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have a friend Corey Diamond who
Speaker 1: used to work on the show, and she and I
Speaker 1: will talk and I would be like, you tell Tracy,
Speaker 1: I think she's everything. And Gibson she let you texted
Speaker 1: Tracy and was like, Carlos King says you're everything, and
Speaker 1: she was like tell him. I said, thank you. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I've always been in love
Speaker 1: with her. I watched I used to love that show.
Speaker 1: I'm so mad it's not coming back. Josh Autman left
Speaker 1: and then you know he no Shay, no Shaye. Josh
Speaker 1: Autman is sort of like you, yeah, okay, so that's
Speaker 1: fair to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: So he left and of course there's no Josh all minute,
Speaker 1: no Shade, no show. Josh Flag is great, but Josh
Speaker 1: Black always gave me ins and out. You know Tracy
Speaker 1: personal story with her hot trainer boyfriend. We you know,
Speaker 1: she started the show with her husband, they got divorced.
Speaker 1: She's a great mom, beautiful kids, these daughters she has.
Speaker 3: But ladies.
Speaker 1: J just to mcgays and bays when the show with
Speaker 1: no hiatus, I think Gibson and I were the only
Speaker 1: ones in the business who kept campaigning for her to
Speaker 1: be a Housewife of Beverly Hills, and bitch she is
Speaker 1: because Tracy Tutor announced yesterday, Well, the secrets officially out.
Speaker 1: I'm joining the cast of the Real Housewives of Beverley Hills,
Speaker 1: and I could not be more excited for the next chapter.
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is home.
Speaker 4: Shade already.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later because ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills housewives do not live in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: so we'll get to that in a second. I've raised
Speaker 1: my girls here, built my career here, and now apparently
Speaker 1: I've decided to let you all in even further into
Speaker 1: my life. Excited, very nervous, a little likely to get
Speaker 1: into some trouble.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I'd like to hear give this.
Speaker 1: She is my saying. So what's left to say, but
Speaker 1: let's fucking go.
Speaker 3: Gives it.
Speaker 2: That's the energy we want, baby, that's the energy we want.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, for the rain drops who aren't viewers, watchers,
Speaker 1: the fans of million dollar listing, give them the backstory
Speaker 1: on the awesomeness that is Tracy Tudor and why you
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Both campaign for her per year totally. So. She born
Speaker 2: and raised in Beverly Hills. First of all, has a
Speaker 2: very rich connected father. He's he does something in like
Speaker 2: construction or real estate or something like that, so that
Speaker 2: she was always sort of like kind of bound to
Speaker 2: go into real estate. I believe that's sort of part
Speaker 2: of the story. She's extremely successful in real estate, Like
Speaker 2: she's genuinely rich as fuck. Shout out to Amanda Francis.
Speaker 2: She has. She came onto the show, I forget exactly,
Speaker 2: but she got divorced like her first year on Million
Speaker 2: Dollar Listing. She was on for six seasons. They have
Speaker 2: two daughters. At first they say it's amicable, but then
Speaker 2: she later says that he had had an affair, so
Speaker 2: she's so again. She's open. She shares her life a lot.
Speaker 2: She she gets into a relationship with the hot young
Speaker 2: trainer there together for a while. I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're together anymore, but they would post these
Speaker 2: like workout videos together on Instagram, and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like very steamy and she like even just
Speaker 2: like her dating a younger man, like I'm into that,
Speaker 2: you know, like that's a good that's a good it's
Speaker 2: good energy. But like what I liked about her on
Speaker 2: million dollar listing was that she shared her life very openly.
Speaker 2: She was not afraid of conflict, and I think that
Speaker 2: the way that she was able to keep up with
Speaker 2: like her male co stars, who have huge personalities. They're
Speaker 2: also very dramatic, but they but men generally speaking fight
Speaker 2: in a different way from women. And I think the
Speaker 2: way that she was able to hang with them and
Speaker 2: give them shit like without like missing a beat, I
Speaker 2: think that that bodes so well for her on Housewives,
Speaker 2: Like she's not afraid of of anything, and like I
Speaker 2: just that would That's really what sticks out to me,
Speaker 2: like in terms of what she could she could bring
Speaker 2: to Beverly Hills. But again, she's rich, she's stylist, she
Speaker 2: serves looks. The reason why I think maybe you and
Speaker 2: I had her so top of mind was that she's
Speaker 2: really good friend with Crystal m Humming Gough. And when
Speaker 2: Crystal was sort of struggling on the show, like I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, who's she needs an ally? Basically Krystal
Speaker 2: needed somebody to really be in her corner, and Tracy
Speaker 2: would have been a formative, formidable ally for for Christal.
Speaker 2: So that's really that's really where the idea came from
Speaker 2: from me a few years ago. And you know, since
Speaker 2: Millan Darlasting has been you know, on pause or cancel,
Speaker 2: whoever it is. Tracy has not been shy about the
Speaker 2: fact that she's down for this. Like that's what I
Speaker 2: also like about it. She's not like trying to be demure.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, fuck yeah, I'd be a Beverly Hills
Speaker 2: house life. I don't care like that. That's her no
Speaker 2: bullshit energy that we h Beverly Hills needs this. It
Speaker 2: does right. I could go on, baby boy, baby boy.
Speaker 1: First of all, you're so right, because here's the deal.
Speaker 1: You and I are fans of Beverly Hills Housewives, and
Speaker 1: this is no shade to anyone in particularly, but I
Speaker 1: think it's safe to say Gibson and Gibson and I
Speaker 1: have not talked about this prior to this episode taping.
Speaker 1: I think we all can say last season wasn't amazing.
Speaker 2: No, it was, it was okay.
Speaker 1: I think we all can say that what we loved
Speaker 1: about the great days of Belly Hills when you had
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna, you had Lisa vander Pomp, you have Brandy Glanville,
Speaker 1: you have these women who went there Kim Richards and
Speaker 1: what was interesting, even even even my one of my faves,
Speaker 1: Eileen David said, you know what I mean, like one
Speaker 1: of these these powerhouses that have powerful voices. What has
Speaker 1: happened I think last season, the season before that, and
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of the season before that, is
Speaker 1: these women have been quiet and nobody has been activated,
Speaker 1: and it's been a little bit of a sleeper. Tracy
Speaker 1: is somebody that I think is going to inject some
Speaker 1: energy into this much needed, awesome show that we love.
Speaker 1: I love Rachel Zeau. I thought Rachelzel was a great
Speaker 1: casting choice. No, no shade to Rachel Zeaux. She's not
Speaker 1: an activator, you know, that's that's not her thing. I
Speaker 1: was a huge fan of the Rachel's project. What made
Speaker 1: that show great, No shade to Rachel was Braggerreski and
Speaker 1: Taylor and Rachel's words, her sayings, you know her.
Speaker 2: It was like the vibe, the aesthetic, the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's not she's not a conflict. She doesn't love conflict.
Speaker 1: No no, And she also is somebody who values relationships
Speaker 1: and she's not going to go against Kyle, Kathy Hilton, Sutton,
Speaker 1: Erica Jane because she she understands my currency in this
Speaker 1: business lives and relationships, and these are the top women
Speaker 1: not only on this show, however, also on you know,
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. Tracy doesn't give a fuck. She just
Speaker 1: Tracy was born with this wealth. She also is self made,
Speaker 1: she has relationships. She also called out Dried on Jeff
Speaker 1: Lewis Live. And that's the other reason Gibson tell us
Speaker 1: about that backstory in terms of Durite needs to get
Speaker 1: to work because Urit wants to work. We're over Deri
Speaker 1: versus Kyle. We're over Deurit and sence bullshit. Durit wants
Speaker 1: to get activated outside of her Marbles cigarette, and I
Speaker 1: think casting Tracy is the best activation from our girl
Speaker 1: Derie too.
Speaker 2: I agree said I guess it was like Tracy was
Speaker 2: on Jeff Lewis Live, which is where you know, as
Speaker 2: we know at this point many a housewife feud will
Speaker 2: start on Jeff Lewis Live. Right, She's on that show,
Speaker 2: and she basically says that some like a hairstylist or
Speaker 2: a makeup artist that she is close to or works with,
Speaker 2: uh is owed money by Dee. She has some unpaid
Speaker 2: bills for work that he's done with her with him,
Speaker 2: and Durit responds on walch Appins Live, I believe, and
Speaker 2: she says some convoluted story about how like the reason
Speaker 2: she didn't pay him yet was because he included some
Speaker 2: flight on his bill that she shouldn't have had to
Speaker 2: pay for this whole thing, and like so she has
Speaker 2: some answer for it. She's like she kind of a
Speaker 2: shady about Tracy, and Tracy doubles down. She's like, I
Speaker 2: said what I said, Like, I I know this is
Speaker 2: for a fact that he's owed money by Juid and
Speaker 2: that's just the fact of the matter. So there's a
Speaker 2: built in food for us. And I again, there's like
Speaker 2: a fearlessness with her that I just feel like she
Speaker 2: it's hard to shake her. I think I can't imagine
Speaker 2: many people on Beverly Hills cast making Tracy Tutor shake
Speaker 2: in her boots, you know, Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: anybody will.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. No, And I mean,
Speaker 1: and this is the other thing. Andy asked to read
Speaker 1: about it and watch What Happens Live, and Dree's comments
Speaker 1: was pretty much saying that.
Speaker 2: Tracy want an attention.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You know, like that was kind of like Durei's clap back,
Speaker 1: like whatever, she needs a because you know, Gibson interviewing
Speaker 1: these girls, they love to say, Oh, she wants a moment.
Speaker 2: She wants you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, all of a sudden, if I was a liar,
Speaker 1: why did you pay him his money?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so to your point, to your point, Tracy also
Speaker 1: responds to Shade.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think that I think
Speaker 2: that these years, six years of fighting with men exclusively,
Speaker 2: she was the only female castle around millandar list in LA.
Speaker 2: Six six years of fighting with these I mean and
Speaker 2: real estate agents always like are kind of you know,
Speaker 2: big personalities, egomaniac types generally speaking, again, she had to
Speaker 2: keep up with these. She not only kept up with them,
Speaker 2: she like dominated them sometimes, you know, like her and
Speaker 2: Josh Flagg had like some drama. Her and Josh Altman
Speaker 2: had drama. Her and Frederick when as Frederick Ecklin from
Speaker 2: Million Dollars in New York he came to LA for
Speaker 2: a season, they had drama. Like She's I think that
Speaker 2: she got green in reality TV in an environment that
Speaker 2: I think I can't think of anybody else who like
Speaker 2: has a similar background from that perspective, and like it
Speaker 2: excites me. And I think that like her not batting
Speaker 2: an eye at Deree saying she wants attention, She's like that,
Speaker 2: that's the best you got, you know, like that's the yeah,
Speaker 2: uh huh.
Speaker 1: I'll give you what you're asking for. So Tracy is
Speaker 1: somebody rain drops that is going to activate Derie because
Speaker 1: listen love or hey de Deree is fantastic television.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 1: I agree she's great TV, and you will also agree
Speaker 1: Deree doesn't mind picking a fight with anybody.
Speaker 2: I think the last two years like she's something unlocked
Speaker 2: in her post divorce posts sort of like laying it
Speaker 2: all out there with Kyle, like she doesn't really give
Speaker 2: a fuck either, to be honest, and so like I
Speaker 2: love that like that Kyle is less that way, So
Speaker 2: hering Dreek going at each other. Kyle's less willing to
Speaker 2: like go there as quickly, I feel like, and I
Speaker 2: think Tracy is, and so I actually think they could be,
Speaker 2: like it could be pretty electric, you know, And I
Speaker 2: can mention I guess that Dreet very much does not
Speaker 2: like Tracy viscerally and also like given the financial issues
Speaker 2: that are kind of playing out in the press with
Speaker 2: her divorce, with Dreet's divorce, Like that's also just like
Speaker 2: another level. They're different right now, you know, Tracy and Jury.
Speaker 2: So I'm feeling I'm feeling good about this. I can't
Speaker 2: go as far to say that, like, you know, she's
Speaker 2: gonna save Beverly Hills and bring it back to like
Speaker 2: the glory days of like Lisa Rinovis, but like, I
Speaker 2: think it's incredibly promising and I think this is like
Speaker 2: as exciting an addition to Beverly Hills as you could
Speaker 2: ask for, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's just the right temperature that show needs.
Speaker 1: We did learn two weeks ago, and I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this too, Gibson. Yeah, we did
Speaker 1: learn two weeks ago that Amanda Francis, allegedly, according to TMZ,
Speaker 1: was not asked to come back by production. TIMZ was
Speaker 1: the first to reveal this. Amanda Francis hours later did
Speaker 1: a lengthy post where she intimated she left one thing.
Speaker 1: You and I both know that Bravo allows anybody to
Speaker 1: state how they want to, you know, position they're leaving, firing,
Speaker 1: what have you based on the news of Tracy Tudor
Speaker 1: do you think that Amanda should have gone a second
Speaker 1: season or do you think, oh, now it makes sense
Speaker 1: because you gotta makes listened Rang Johnson if you're listening
Speaker 1: on my YouTube gifts is nodding. He's like, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask him like or do you think the producers
Speaker 1: felt that let's get rid of Amanda to make room
Speaker 1: for Tracy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more the latter, because I feel like, when before
Speaker 2: the Tracy news post Amanda news, in that like two
Speaker 2: week period, I was kind of upset that Amanda wasn't
Speaker 2: coming back because I if they're not gonna sort of
Speaker 2: overhaul the cast in a bigger way, it was sort
Speaker 2: of like, okay, like now like who's gonna who's gonna
Speaker 2: ask those questions? Who's gonna mix it up and not
Speaker 2: really care and kind of it feels like there's almost
Speaker 2: like a sometimes there's like an implicit agreement amongst the cast,
Speaker 2: like not touch certain topics or whatever. Yes and I
Speaker 2: and the news that Amanda wasn't coming back, I'm like, damn, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like in a second season she would have
Speaker 2: been more emboldened to ask those questions and behave that
Speaker 2: way because I think that she felt the support from
Speaker 2: the audience. I think that would have helped Heranna to
Speaker 2: total end Rihanna. Yeah, but you know, she she's apparently
Speaker 2: leaving or whatever, despite Rihanna asking her to stay. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so I was a little bit upset. But now that
Speaker 2: we have the true news, I'm like, I'm excited in
Speaker 2: like a different way. And I think that Tracy could
Speaker 2: Tracy could do that in a way that's a little
Speaker 2: bit less like from an outsider, Like Amanda was an
Speaker 2: outsider in this group, but I don't think that Tracy
Speaker 2: is fully an outsider. But also it's like Tracy, like
Speaker 2: we're talking about the Dereet feud and like she was
Speaker 2: friends with Crystal, but like she's been in the Bravo
Speaker 2: world for you know, six seven, eight years. She's known
Speaker 2: Kyle for a while. She's in real estate. I'm sure
Speaker 2: her and Mauricio are friends. You know, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: early their colleagues know each other. She's known Kyle, probably Erica.
Speaker 2: She's known these girls just from being a Bravo con
Speaker 2: or being at Walchrappans live Like so she I bet
Speaker 2: there's more connections than we even realize she's gonna feel
Speaker 2: like she fits in, I think more than Amanda ever
Speaker 2: really did.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, and also think too, I think the deficit
Speaker 1: of Amanda, and I agree with you. I was sad
Speaker 1: Amanda was not asked back, so I'm like, we need
Speaker 1: some new blood in this show. But one thing that
Speaker 1: I did love about a man the two was she
Speaker 1: didn't care about the alliance and she was kind of
Speaker 1: like trying to do her thing. The unfortunate part, though,
Speaker 1: is those women just did not respect how she made
Speaker 1: her money and they and it was, well, it was
Speaker 1: so sad, and I'm gonna say this, I do feel
Speaker 1: like those girls purposely iced her out. I feel like
Speaker 1: they were like, we don't like you, and you don't
Speaker 1: fit with us, and we're not going to make room
Speaker 1: for you by making it clear that we like you.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of it's kind of how they treated Crystal.
Speaker 2: To be honest, like, I think Crystal is somebody who,
Speaker 2: like I've also kind of wanted to been curious about
Speaker 2: wanting to see her back, even as a friend, because
Speaker 2: I do feel like she never really got the chance.
Speaker 2: I think the women didn't really let her in in
Speaker 2: that in that way when she was on the show.
Speaker 2: And I also think that she's been emboldened by her
Speaker 2: time away from the show with her podcast with Cynthia
Speaker 2: and kind of I think her her point of view
Speaker 2: on things feels more now to be honest, that she
Speaker 2: feels like more willing to really say the truth and
Speaker 2: be totally forthcoming. Like I felt that that's like kind
Speaker 2: of promising for her having potentially come back. So that's
Speaker 2: somebody else where. I'm like, yeah, they treated her that
Speaker 2: same way. And I do think that Tracy coming back
Speaker 2: this year, maybe that plants the seed for a Crystal
Speaker 2: return in another year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the rumor now is whether or not Christal was
Speaker 1: coming back. I believe that Crystal this upcoming season that
Speaker 1: they're filming right now, should at least appear as a friend.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I've been on humble Brag. Christa and I are now friends.
Speaker 1: After she cussed me out on my podcast, Thank You,
Speaker 1: GiB said, I have it.
Speaker 3: She said, my opinions are weird.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, girl, whatever other pants are weird. I'm
Speaker 2: just kidding. I love Crystal. I love Crystal.
Speaker 3: Crystal.
Speaker 1: We were able after podcast taping with Cynthia Bailey. We
Speaker 1: were able to have dinner and we like sat down
Speaker 1: for like two and a half hours and wow, oh
Speaker 1: and I enjoy her so much And I kept saying
Speaker 1: to her, ask her, I'm like, I did see the
Speaker 1: side of you on the show, Like I think, what what?
Speaker 2: There was space for her too? Yeah, there wasn't space
Speaker 2: for her too.
Speaker 1: And I believe I believe the beauty is this. I
Speaker 1: think I do think some housewives should have a pause
Speaker 1: moment to to love it again and to to to
Speaker 1: to really come back stronger. And I am an advocate
Speaker 1: for Crystal to come back this season now that I'm
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that her and Tracy we're friends.
Speaker 1: So now that I her and Tracy are friends, Tracy
Speaker 1: coming back to me is going to be so electrifying.
Speaker 1: I am in love with Tracy Tutor.
Speaker 4: She's gorgeous, she's rich, she's a great mom, she's a
Speaker 4: strong business woman. She she she's everything you look for
Speaker 4: into Beverly Hills housewife. Along with Crystal, I think this
Speaker 4: is the dynamic duo that Beverly Hills needs this season.
Speaker 1: And I will be a stand for this if this.
Speaker 2: Happens me too. I just think it just feels right,
Speaker 2: and like there's a chance that they still kind of
Speaker 2: treat Crystal in the same way, but I don't think
Speaker 2: she'll take that treatment lying down. And I think that
Speaker 2: like she was so defined last time by you know,
Speaker 2: losing the fifteen girlfriends or whatever it was, and like
Speaker 2: like that was like her reputation almost like preceded her
Speaker 2: in a way that like felt almost like misrepresentative of her.
Speaker 2: So I think you can kind of have a clean slate.
Speaker 2: But also like I'm sure there's some residual stuff with
Speaker 2: like Erica and maybe maybe some Sutton stuff, maybe some
Speaker 2: Kyle stuff. I don't know, but like there's probably stuff
Speaker 2: there to explore, and I think that that is that's great,
Speaker 2: you know. So, like I think as even as Atlanta
Speaker 2: showed us like bringing somebody back into the fold, who
Speaker 2: there's unresolved issues to talk about that sort of harken
Speaker 2: back to another time for the show. That's a good
Speaker 2: feeling for viewers actually, because it feels familiar. It feels like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like I remember when they had this little thing.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. I love when we have moments
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you Carlos, Yes, yes, yes, so rain Drops,
Speaker 1: let us know if you're with U. Are you excited
Speaker 1: that Tracy is a housewife? Are you still said that
Speaker 1: Amanda's gone? Or are you now like Okay, if this
Speaker 1: had to happen to make room for Tracy, I'm here
Speaker 1: for it. And let us know if you really want
Speaker 1: Crystal back at least as a friend this season, just
Speaker 1: to see what can happen, because I think one thing
Speaker 1: that Cynthia Bailey is showing us that being a friend
Speaker 1: after the show isn't a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Imagine both hubble brag hosts redividing the friend roll, you know,
Speaker 2: like that's it's kind of fantastic. Carl has Carlos has
Speaker 2: lost his life. He's just he's just sould has left
Speaker 2: his body.
Speaker 1: CNC Crystal and Cynthia redefining the friend roll.
Speaker 2: That's a hubble brag. That's a humble brag. If I've
Speaker 2: ever heard one.
Speaker 1: Clock it clocker clock now, that would be that would
Speaker 1: be amazing, amazing. Okay, So Gibson, my last question for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for this upcoming season of Billy Hills Housewife mm hmm,
Speaker 3: I'll give you eight housewives in total, who is Gifts
Speaker 3: and John Dream Beverly Hills Cast.
Speaker 1: Now that we know Tracy is officially.
Speaker 2: Like realistically.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, now listen, we're humble bragging, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be realistic.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like for example, like for example, okay, so
Speaker 2: let's Tracy's on there, Crystal's on there.
Speaker 1: Well, these are things? Are these are diamond holders?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, Tracy, Tracy's Crystal, Rachel Ze, Eric Countrie, m H.
Speaker 1: Kyle.
Speaker 2: Because I think that there's some history there and there's
Speaker 2: some stuff to with with Tracy and Crystal probably to
Speaker 2: talk about. I have two more. I mean it's not realistic,
Speaker 2: but I would love Lisa Minna to come back, Okay,
Speaker 2: and Eileen Davidson. Okay, it's good because I I don't personally,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like over Sutton right now. I don't
Speaker 2: really why. I just think that like she's the ARC
Speaker 2: feels sort of complete with her. I think that she's
Speaker 2: sort of she's sort of in with the she's in
Speaker 2: with the cool girls, Like I don't think that she's
Speaker 2: really challenging them anymore. I don't really know like what
Speaker 2: she's I don't even need this in the shady way,
Speaker 2: like what like purpose she's really serving like in the group,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, that's my that's just my I'm going
Speaker 2: to co sign your list. Okay, I guess I didn't.
Speaker 2: I should have bosee instead of Eileen. I just like
Speaker 2: there's something, Yeah, I should I should have bose there,
Speaker 2: I should be both there instead of Eileen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, okay, so yeah I did too saying
Speaker 1: I did too, Okay, so balls for sure. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, and I'm in by saying this. I
Speaker 1: would have preferred to see Amanda Francis full time and.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, totally, I just yeah, And it's it's
Speaker 2: I don't even dislike Sutton, like I think that she's
Speaker 2: sort of a purpose on the show, which is I
Speaker 2: don't we feel I feel like we've like come sort
Speaker 2: of full circle with it, you know that's how I felt.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So we got these hot takes.
Speaker 1: So once again I agree with Gibson lists. We First
Speaker 1: of all, we'll talk later about why you struggled with Kyle.
Speaker 2: But it's not that I struggle with her. It's what
Speaker 2: you said earlier, Carlos. I've been saying for a couple
Speaker 2: of years. I think that she would benefit so much
Speaker 2: from one year off, just one year, okay. I think
Speaker 2: that she's had a decade and a half of being
Speaker 2: in this world now leading it for the past five
Speaker 2: or six years. I think that she would benefit from
Speaker 2: living a little life, getting a little bit away from
Speaker 2: the camera is the pressure of it all, to really
Speaker 2: find her love of it again. I think that that
Speaker 2: would She's like the number one person I think would Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really like Kyle. That's that's that's where that is from. Okay,
Speaker 2: She's my favorite housewife, as you know. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I really I love Kyle. I just there's like a
Speaker 2: she feels like a little removed right now for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, listen, she's my favorite housewife like Melissa
Speaker 1: Gorga is. So I want to make sure that I
Speaker 1: was able to.
Speaker 2: We've had that conversation many a time. So for another day.
Speaker 1: I have to give it to Gibbs that that's an insight.
Speaker 1: Don't be a Gibson. By the way, see Melissa Gorga back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show this season. But we all know Teresa
Speaker 1: is my sister. Okay, so Gibson, where could the range jobs?
Speaker 1: But already know thanks not my love. Where can they
Speaker 1: find you? Follow your support to.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for having me as always and I'll
Speaker 2: have to have There's always something for us to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Carlos, I will see you soon, Gibson, Thank you
Speaker 1: for this, my love.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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