WEBVTT - TRACY TUTOR TAKES RHOBH! | With Gibson Johns

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, rain drums. We have a I'm gonna call this

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency episode, but in the best way possible because

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<v Speaker 1>I am here with Gibson. You know, he and I

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<v Speaker 1>love to gab about all things reality television, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Some very incredible news to share. Gibson, how's it going

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<v Speaker 2>now that we hear to have this news? It's going

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<v Speaker 2>even better? You know, I'm a happy boy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like Anti with the Fifth Bump.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have watched that Carlos, I think probably

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred times this week. It is like serotonin boost.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so good that clip. Are you kidding? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>What else is going on? Like? It's just the reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to the drop is insane. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no so good and so good. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>little announcement to make that was rumored for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>so listen, give uson and I are here not only

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<v Speaker 1>to give y' all the tea, We're also here to

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<v Speaker 1>give y'all the backstory as well. So for I would

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<v Speaker 1>say for the past couple of years, maybe three years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have wanted million dollar listing star Tracy Tudor, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I have a friend Corey Diamond who

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<v Speaker 1>used to work on the show, and she and I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk and I would be like, you tell Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's everything. And Gibson she let you texted

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy and was like, Carlos King says you're everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like tell him. I said, thank you. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, I've always been in love

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<v Speaker 1>with her. I watched I used to love that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so mad it's not coming back. Josh Autman left

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know he no Shay, no Shaye. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Autman is sort of like you, yeah, okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>fair to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>So he left and of course there's no Josh all minute,

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<v Speaker 1>no Shade, no show. Josh Flag is great, but Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Black always gave me ins and out. You know Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>personal story with her hot trainer boyfriend. We you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she started the show with her husband, they got divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a great mom, beautiful kids, these daughters she has.

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<v Speaker 3>But ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>J just to mcgays and bays when the show with

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<v Speaker 1>no hiatus, I think Gibson and I were the only

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<v Speaker 1>ones in the business who kept campaigning for her to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Housewife of Beverly Hills, and bitch she is

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<v Speaker 1>because Tracy Tutor announced yesterday, Well, the secrets officially out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joining the cast of the Real Housewives of Beverley Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could not be more excited for the next chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills is home.

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<v Speaker 4>Shade already.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that later because ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the Beverly Hills housewives do not live in Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll get to that in a second. I've raised

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<v Speaker 1>my girls here, built my career here, and now apparently

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<v Speaker 1>I've decided to let you all in even further into

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Excited, very nervous, a little likely to get

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<v Speaker 1>into some trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So I'd like to hear give this.

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<v Speaker 1>She is my saying. So what's left to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's fucking go.

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<v Speaker 3>Gives it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the energy we want, baby, that's the energy we want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, for the rain drops who aren't viewers, watchers,

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<v Speaker 1>the fans of million dollar listing, give them the backstory

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<v Speaker 1>on the awesomeness that is Tracy Tudor and why you

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Both campaign for her per year totally. So. She born

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<v Speaker 2>and raised in Beverly Hills. First of all, has a

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<v Speaker 2>very rich connected father. He's he does something in like

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<v Speaker 2>construction or real estate or something like that, so that

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<v Speaker 2>she was always sort of like kind of bound to

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<v Speaker 2>go into real estate. I believe that's sort of part

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<v Speaker 2>of the story. She's extremely successful in real estate, Like

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<v Speaker 2>she's genuinely rich as fuck. Shout out to Amanda Francis.

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<v Speaker 2>She has. She came onto the show, I forget exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>but she got divorced like her first year on Million

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<v Speaker 2>Dollar Listing. She was on for six seasons. They have

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<v Speaker 2>two daughters. At first they say it's amicable, but then

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<v Speaker 2>she later says that he had had an affair, so

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<v Speaker 2>she's so again. She's open. She shares her life a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>She she gets into a relationship with the hot young

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<v Speaker 2>trainer there together for a while. I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they're together anymore, but they would post these

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<v Speaker 2>like workout videos together on Instagram, and it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like very steamy and she like even just

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<v Speaker 2>like her dating a younger man, like I'm into that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like that's a good that's a good it's

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<v Speaker 2>good energy. But like what I liked about her on

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar listing was that she shared her life very openly.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not afraid of conflict, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the way that she was able to keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>like her male co stars, who have huge personalities. They're

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<v Speaker 2>also very dramatic, but they but men generally speaking fight

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<v Speaker 2>in a different way from women. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>way that she was able to hang with them and

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<v Speaker 2>give them shit like without like missing a beat, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that bodes so well for her on Housewives,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's not afraid of of anything, and like I

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<v Speaker 2>just that would That's really what sticks out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like in terms of what she could she could bring

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<v Speaker 2>to Beverly Hills. But again, she's rich, she's stylist, she

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<v Speaker 2>serves looks. The reason why I think maybe you and

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<v Speaker 2>I had her so top of mind was that she's

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<v Speaker 2>really good friend with Crystal m Humming Gough. And when

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<v Speaker 2>Crystal was sort of struggling on the show, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, who's she needs an ally? Basically Krystal

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<v Speaker 2>needed somebody to really be in her corner, and Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a formative, formidable ally for for Christal.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's really that's really where the idea came from

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<v Speaker 2>from me a few years ago. And you know, since

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<v Speaker 2>Millan Darlasting has been you know, on pause or cancel,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever it is. Tracy has not been shy about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that she's down for this. Like that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>also like about it. She's not like trying to be demure.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, fuck yeah, I'd be a Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 2>house life. I don't care like that. That's her no

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit energy that we h Beverly Hills needs this. It

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<v Speaker 2>does right. I could go on, baby boy, baby boy.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you're so right, because here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I are fans of Beverly Hills Housewives, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is no shade to anyone in particularly, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's safe to say Gibson and Gibson and I

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<v Speaker 1>have not talked about this prior to this episode taping.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all can say last season wasn't amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was, it was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all can say that what we loved

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<v Speaker 1>about the great days of Belly Hills when you had

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Renna, you had Lisa vander Pomp, you have Brandy Glanville,

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<v Speaker 1>you have these women who went there Kim Richards and

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<v Speaker 1>what was interesting, even even even my one of my faves,

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<v Speaker 1>Eileen David said, you know what I mean, like one

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<v Speaker 1>of these these powerhouses that have powerful voices. What has

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<v Speaker 1>happened I think last season, the season before that, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit of the season before that, is

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<v Speaker 1>these women have been quiet and nobody has been activated,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a little bit of a sleeper. Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody that I think is going to inject some

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<v Speaker 1>energy into this much needed, awesome show that we love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Rachel Zeau. I thought Rachelzel was a great

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<v Speaker 1>casting choice. No, no shade to Rachel Zeaux. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>an activator, you know, that's that's not her thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge fan of the Rachel's project. What made

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<v Speaker 1>that show great, No shade to Rachel was Braggerreski and

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor and Rachel's words, her sayings, you know her.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the vibe, the aesthetic, the yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not she's not a conflict. She doesn't love conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, And she also is somebody who values relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and she's not going to go against Kyle, Kathy Hilton, Sutton,

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Jane because she she understands my currency in this

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<v Speaker 1>business lives and relationships, and these are the top women

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<v Speaker 1>not only on this show, however, also on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in Beverly Hills. Tracy doesn't give a fuck. She just

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy was born with this wealth. She also is self made,

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<v Speaker 1>she has relationships. She also called out Dried on Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis Live. And that's the other reason Gibson tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about that backstory in terms of Durite needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>to work because Urit wants to work. We're over Deri

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<v Speaker 1>versus Kyle. We're over Deurit and sence bullshit. Durit wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get activated outside of her Marbles cigarette, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think casting Tracy is the best activation from our girl

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<v Speaker 1>Derie too.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree said I guess it was like Tracy was

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<v Speaker 2>on Jeff Lewis Live, which is where you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>we know at this point many a housewife feud will

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<v Speaker 2>start on Jeff Lewis Live. Right, She's on that show,

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<v Speaker 2>and she basically says that some like a hairstylist or

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<v Speaker 2>a makeup artist that she is close to or works with,

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<v Speaker 2>uh is owed money by Dee. She has some unpaid

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<v Speaker 2>bills for work that he's done with her with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and Durit responds on walch Appins Live, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 2>she says some convoluted story about how like the reason

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't pay him yet was because he included some

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<v Speaker 2>flight on his bill that she shouldn't have had to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for this whole thing, and like so she has

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<v Speaker 2>some answer for it. She's like she kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>shady about Tracy, and Tracy doubles down. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>said what I said, Like, I I know this is

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<v Speaker 2>for a fact that he's owed money by Juid and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the fact of the matter. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>built in food for us. And I again, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a fearlessness with her that I just feel like she

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to shake her. I think I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>many people on Beverly Hills cast making Tracy Tutor shake

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<v Speaker 2>in her boots, you know, Like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>anybody will.

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<v Speaker 1>This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back into the show. No, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the other thing. Andy asked to read

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<v Speaker 1>about it and watch What Happens Live, and Dree's comments

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy want an attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that was kind of like Durei's clap back,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, she needs a because you know, Gibson interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>these girls, they love to say, Oh, she wants a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh, all of a sudden, if I was a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you pay him his money?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so to your point, to your point, Tracy also

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<v Speaker 1>responds to Shade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that these years, six years of fighting with men exclusively,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the only female castle around millandar list in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Six six years of fighting with these I mean and

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<v Speaker 2>real estate agents always like are kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>big personalities, egomaniac types generally speaking, again, she had to

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<v Speaker 2>keep up with these. She not only kept up with them,

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<v Speaker 2>she like dominated them sometimes, you know, like her and

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Flagg had like some drama. Her and Josh Altman

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<v Speaker 2>had drama. Her and Frederick when as Frederick Ecklin from

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<v Speaker 2>Million Dollars in New York he came to LA for

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<v Speaker 2>a season, they had drama. Like She's I think that

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<v Speaker 2>she got green in reality TV in an environment that

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<v Speaker 2>I think I can't think of anybody else who like

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<v Speaker 2>has a similar background from that perspective, and like it

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<v Speaker 2>excites me. And I think that like her not batting

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<v Speaker 2>an eye at Deree saying she wants attention, She's like that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best you got, you know, like that's the yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you what you're asking for. So Tracy is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody rain drops that is going to activate Derie because

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<v Speaker 1>listen love or hey de Deree is fantastic television.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree she's great TV, and you will also agree

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<v Speaker 1>Deree doesn't mind picking a fight with anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the last two years like she's something unlocked

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<v Speaker 2>in her post divorce posts sort of like laying it

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<v Speaker 2>all out there with Kyle, like she doesn't really give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck either, to be honest, and so like I

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<v Speaker 2>love that like that Kyle is less that way, So

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<v Speaker 2>hering Dreek going at each other. Kyle's less willing to

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<v Speaker 2>like go there as quickly, I feel like, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tracy is, and so I actually think they could be,

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be pretty electric, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 2>can mention I guess that Dreet very much does not

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<v Speaker 2>like Tracy viscerally and also like given the financial issues

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<v Speaker 2>that are kind of playing out in the press with

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<v Speaker 2>her divorce, with Dreet's divorce, Like that's also just like

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<v Speaker 2>another level. They're different right now, you know, Tracy and Jury.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm feeling I'm feeling good about this. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>go as far to say that, like, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna save Beverly Hills and bring it back to like

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<v Speaker 2>the glory days of like Lisa Rinovis, but like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's incredibly promising and I think this is like

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<v Speaker 2>as exciting an addition to Beverly Hills as you could

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<v Speaker 2>ask for, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's just the right temperature that show needs.

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<v Speaker 1>We did learn two weeks ago, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts on this too, Gibson. Yeah, we did

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<v Speaker 1>learn two weeks ago that Amanda Francis, allegedly, according to TMZ,

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<v Speaker 1>was not asked to come back by production. TIMZ was

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<v Speaker 1>the first to reveal this. Amanda Francis hours later did

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<v Speaker 1>a lengthy post where she intimated she left one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I both know that Bravo allows anybody to

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<v Speaker 1>state how they want to, you know, position they're leaving, firing,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you based on the news of Tracy Tudor

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that Amanda should have gone a second

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<v Speaker 1>season or do you think, oh, now it makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta makes listened Rang Johnson if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>on my YouTube gifts is nodding. He's like, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask him like or do you think the producers

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<v Speaker 1>felt that let's get rid of Amanda to make room

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<v Speaker 1>for Tracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more the latter, because I feel like, when before

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<v Speaker 2>the Tracy news post Amanda news, in that like two

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<v Speaker 2>week period, I was kind of upset that Amanda wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>coming back because I if they're not gonna sort of

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<v Speaker 2>overhaul the cast in a bigger way, it was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like, okay, like now like who's gonna who's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>ask those questions? Who's gonna mix it up and not

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<v Speaker 2>really care and kind of it feels like there's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a sometimes there's like an implicit agreement amongst the cast,

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<v Speaker 2>like not touch certain topics or whatever. Yes and I

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<v Speaker 2>and the news that Amanda wasn't coming back, I'm like, damn, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in a second season she would have

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<v Speaker 2>been more emboldened to ask those questions and behave that

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<v Speaker 2>way because I think that she felt the support from

0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the audience. I think that would have helped Heranna to

0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.720
<v Speaker 2>total end Rihanna. Yeah, but you know, she she's apparently

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<v Speaker 2>leaving or whatever, despite Rihanna asking her to stay. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was a little bit upset. But now that

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<v Speaker 2>we have the true news, I'm like, I'm excited in

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<v Speaker 2>like a different way. And I think that Tracy could

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy could do that in a way that's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit less like from an outsider, Like Amanda was an

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<v Speaker 2>outsider in this group, but I don't think that Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>is fully an outsider. But also it's like Tracy, like

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the Dereet feud and like she was

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<v Speaker 2>friends with Crystal, but like she's been in the Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>world for you know, six seven, eight years. She's known

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle for a while. She's in real estate. I'm sure

0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.040
<v Speaker 2>her and Mauricio are friends. You know, I'm sure that

0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.040
<v Speaker 2>early their colleagues know each other. She's known Kyle, probably Erica.

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<v Speaker 2>She's known these girls just from being a Bravo con

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<v Speaker 2>or being at Walchrappans live Like so she I bet

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<v Speaker 2>there's more connections than we even realize she's gonna feel

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<v Speaker 2>like she fits in, I think more than Amanda ever

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<v Speaker 2>really did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, and also think too, I think the deficit

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<v Speaker 1>of Amanda, and I agree with you. I was sad

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda was not asked back, so I'm like, we need

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<v Speaker 1>some new blood in this show. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I did love about a man the two was she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care about the alliance and she was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to do her thing. The unfortunate part, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is those women just did not respect how she made

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<v Speaker 1>her money and they and it was, well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so sad, and I'm gonna say this, I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like those girls purposely iced her out. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, we don't like you, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>fit with us, and we're not going to make room

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<v Speaker 1>for you by making it clear that we like you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of it's kind of how they treated Crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, like, I think Crystal is somebody who,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've also kind of wanted to been curious about

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to see her back, even as a friend, because

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like she never really got the chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the women didn't really let her in in

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<v Speaker 2>that in that way when she was on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think that she's been emboldened by her

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<v Speaker 2>time away from the show with her podcast with Cynthia

0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and kind of I think her her point of view

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<v Speaker 2>on things feels more now to be honest, that she

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<v Speaker 2>feels like more willing to really say the truth and

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<v Speaker 2>be totally forthcoming. Like I felt that that's like kind

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 2>of promising for her having potentially come back. So that's

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody else where. I'm like, yeah, they treated her that

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<v Speaker 2>same way. And I do think that Tracy coming back

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<v Speaker 2>this year, maybe that plants the seed for a Crystal

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<v Speaker 2>return in another year, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So the rumor now is whether or not Christal was

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<v Speaker 1>coming back. I believe that Crystal this upcoming season that

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<v Speaker 1>they're filming right now, should at least appear as a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on humble Brag. Christa and I are now friends.

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<v Speaker 1>After she cussed me out on my podcast, Thank You,

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<v Speaker 1>GiB said, I have it.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, my opinions are weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, girl, whatever other pants are weird. I'm

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:10.120
<v Speaker 2>just kidding. I love Crystal. I love Crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>Crystal.

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<v Speaker 1>We were able after podcast taping with Cynthia Bailey. We

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<v Speaker 1>were able to have dinner and we like sat down

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<v Speaker 1>for like two and a half hours and wow, oh

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<v Speaker 1>and I enjoy her so much And I kept saying

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<v Speaker 1>to her, ask her, I'm like, I did see the

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<v Speaker 1>side of you on the show, Like I think, what what?

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<v Speaker 2>There was space for her too? Yeah, there wasn't space

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<v Speaker 2>for her too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe I believe the beauty is this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I do think some housewives should have a pause

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<v Speaker 1>moment to to love it again and to to to

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<v Speaker 1>to really come back stronger. And I am an advocate

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<v Speaker 1>for Crystal to come back this season now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know that her and Tracy we're friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that I her and Tracy are friends, Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to me is going to be so electrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in love with Tracy Tutor.

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<v Speaker 4>She's gorgeous, she's rich, she's a great mom, she's a

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 4>strong business woman. She she she's everything you look for

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 4>into Beverly Hills housewife. Along with Crystal, I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is the dynamic duo that Beverly Hills needs this season.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will be a stand for this if this.

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<v Speaker 2>Happens me too. I just think it just feels right,

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<v Speaker 2>and like there's a chance that they still kind of

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.360
<v Speaker 2>treat Crystal in the same way, but I don't think

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 2>she'll take that treatment lying down. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>like she was so defined last time by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>losing the fifteen girlfriends or whatever it was, and like

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<v Speaker 2>like that was like her reputation almost like preceded her

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 2>in a way that like felt almost like misrepresentative of her.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you can kind of have a clean slate.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like I'm sure there's some residual stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>like Erica and maybe maybe some Sutton stuff, maybe some

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Kyle stuff. I don't know, but like there's probably stuff

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 2>there to explore, and I think that that is that's great,

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 2>you know. So, like I think as even as Atlanta

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>showed us like bringing somebody back into the fold, who

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:31.439
<v Speaker 2>there's unresolved issues to talk about that sort of harken

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<v Speaker 2>back to another time for the show. That's a good

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<v Speaker 2>feeling for viewers actually, because it feels familiar. It feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, like I remember when they had this little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good. I love when we have moments

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:45.119
<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm with you Carlos, Yes, yes, yes, so rain Drops,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if you're with U. Are you excited

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that Tracy is a housewife? Are you still said that

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda's gone? Or are you now like Okay, if this

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>had to happen to make room for Tracy, I'm here

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 1>for it. And let us know if you really want

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Crystal back at least as a friend this season, just

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<v Speaker 1>to see what can happen, because I think one thing

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that Cynthia Bailey is showing us that being a friend

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<v Speaker 1>after the show isn't a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine both hubble brag hosts redividing the friend roll, you know,

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like that's it's kind of fantastic. Carl has Carlos has

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<v Speaker 2>lost his life. He's just he's just sould has left

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<v Speaker 2>his body.

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>CNC Crystal and Cynthia redefining the friend roll.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hubble brag. That's a humble brag. If I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard one.

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<v Speaker 1>Clock it clocker clock now, that would be that would

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing, amazing. Okay, So Gibson, my last question for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for this upcoming season of Billy Hills Housewife mm hmm,

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you eight housewives in total, who is Gifts

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 3>and John Dream Beverly Hills Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we know Tracy is officially.

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<v Speaker 2>Like realistically.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, now listen, we're humble bragging, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so like for example, like for example, okay, so

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 2>let's Tracy's on there, Crystal's on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these are things? Are these are diamond holders?

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, Tracy, Tracy's Crystal, Rachel Ze, Eric Countrie, m H.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think that there's some history there and there's

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>some stuff to with with Tracy and Crystal probably to

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>talk about. I have two more. I mean it's not realistic,

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>but I would love Lisa Minna to come back, Okay,

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and Eileen Davidson. Okay, it's good because I I don't personally,

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like over Sutton right now. I don't

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>really why. I just think that like she's the ARC

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>feels sort of complete with her. I think that she's

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 2>sort of she's sort of in with the she's in

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>with the cool girls, Like I don't think that she's

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>really challenging them anymore. I don't really know like what

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 2>she's I don't even need this in the shady way,

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>like what like purpose she's really serving like in the group,

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, that's my that's just my I'm going

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to co sign your list. Okay, I guess I didn't.

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 2>I should have bosee instead of Eileen. I just like

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 2>there's something, Yeah, I should I should have bose there,

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I should be both there instead of Eileen.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, okay, so yeah I did too saying

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I did too, Okay, so balls for sure. But I

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.959
<v Speaker 1>will say this, and I'm in by saying this. I

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>would have preferred to see Amanda Francis full time and.

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:27.239
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, totally, I just yeah, And it's it's

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't even dislike Sutton, like I think that she's

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of a purpose on the show, which is I

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>don't we feel I feel like we've like come sort

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of full circle with it, you know that's how I felt.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I agree, all right, So we got these hot takes.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So once again I agree with Gibson lists. We First

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of all, we'll talk later about why you struggled with Kyle.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's not that I struggle with her. It's what

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you said earlier, Carlos. I've been saying for a couple

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 2>of years. I think that she would benefit so much

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>from one year off, just one year, okay. I think

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that she's had a decade and a half of being

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<v Speaker 2>in this world now leading it for the past five

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<v Speaker 2>or six years. I think that she would benefit from

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<v Speaker 2>living a little life, getting a little bit away from

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<v Speaker 2>the camera is the pressure of it all, to really

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<v Speaker 2>find her love of it again. I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>would She's like the number one person I think would Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Kyle. That's that's that's where that is from. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>She's my favorite housewife, as you know. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I really I love Kyle. I just there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>she feels like a little removed right now for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, listen, she's my favorite housewife like Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>Gorga is. So I want to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had that conversation many a time. So for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to give it to Gibbs that that's an insight.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be a Gibson. By the way, see Melissa Gorga back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show this season. But we all know Teresa

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<v Speaker 1>is my sister. Okay, so Gibson, where could the range jobs?

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<v Speaker 1>But already know thanks not my love. Where can they

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<v Speaker 1>find you? Follow your support to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you for having me as always and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to have There's always something for us to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be back on Gavian with Gibson Gaalian Gibbs my

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<v Speaker 2>talking about all the Bravo shows these days, and you

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Carlos, I will see you soon, Gibson, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for this, my love.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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