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Speaker 2: The first question we asked everybody, and this is a

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Speaker 2: two point question because you used to hoop. Who's the

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Speaker 2: first person that bust your ass on the court and

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Speaker 2: who's the first person that bust your ass in the studio?

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Speaker 1: If that has happened?

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Speaker 3: All right, so we're gonna go to the on the court.

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Speaker 4: When I was younger, I think I was about twelve,

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Speaker 4: maybe thirteen, my mom's took me to Tennessee. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: city boy. I hate it even going. I ain't want

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Speaker 4: to go there my summer. I love New York City summers.

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Speaker 4: My mom's like, yah, were going down to visit our

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Speaker 4: cousins in Tennessee. Go down there, hating it? Finally want no,

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Speaker 4: No course, they live in a stick somewhere when they

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Speaker 4: see a kid across the streets shooting hoops in it,

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Speaker 4: and it's I guess he bought a hoop and he's

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Speaker 4: shooting hoops in the in the in the driveway. So

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Speaker 4: I came walking over there like, yo, what's up? I

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Speaker 4: can shoot around with you?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, cool. So the one thing led to another

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Speaker 3: one on one time. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like I'm coming down there to represent Brooklyn.

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Speaker 4: I got he ain't really got no moves.

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Speaker 3: He just you know, shoot around. What's her name? But

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Speaker 3: he was cracking my ass. He had a jumper, man.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he knew his striveway, he knew

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Speaker 4: his points and angles.

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Speaker 5: That's why you.

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Speaker 4: Like week straight bro. I was like, so now I'm

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Speaker 4: on the last day. I'm like, i gotta play this

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Speaker 4: dude one more last time. I'm not going back to

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Speaker 4: New York without cracking him once.

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Speaker 3: Beat me by one.

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Speaker 1: I was sick yo. Live on location. We in New

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Speaker 1: York City. We got the man in the building f

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Speaker 1: a bo and it's our first hip hop artist. Man.

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Speaker 1: We pulled up on one of our favorites, right man, Right,

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Speaker 1: I got the blackest one with me. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. We in here chilling man, y'all need to

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Speaker 1: tune in. Man. A lot of New York, a lot

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Speaker 1: of hipop, a lot a lot of going on up

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Speaker 1: in the building. The night fab with us. It's your boys,

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Speaker 1: q Rich and Demails challenging the podcast season two.

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Speaker 5: And how we're thinking what we do Like, it's just like,

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Speaker 5: how did y'all come up with that?

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Speaker 1: Is this thing? Go little scripted?

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Speaker 5: We kind of just get into it.

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Speaker 1: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 3: You weren't winning with just one star player.

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Speaker 1: This is a story that people don't know. This dude,

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Speaker 1: have my shoes on, right, He just talking hot mess.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were just young and wanted to prove

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Speaker 2: ourselves and you were in the way.

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Speaker 5: This is nice.

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Speaker 1: Man bought me some hony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a gra.

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Speaker 2: Grave Phield, grave Phield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield.

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Speaker 4: It was ill because it wasn't even like this style

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Speaker 4: of play up here was like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: It was like playing somebody who played a whole different way, right,

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Speaker 4: playing but figure out how to win.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It kind of open my eyes like this ain't even

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Speaker 4: the only way to play basketball.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming from New York and Brooklyn.

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Speaker 4: And you know it's a lot of style and swagging.

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Speaker 4: I'm cutting them up and everything. I'm doing all of

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Speaker 4: that too. M I'm dropping all of that. He getting

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Speaker 4: the ball after I miss, He getting the ball back back.

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Speaker 3: To that line.

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Speaker 1: That's how we looked at New York dudes. Though. When

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Speaker 1: we was coming through, like early on, I would say, man,

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Speaker 1: New York dudes can't shoot, you go, they play around.

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Speaker 1: They got chained that or no next like how you

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Speaker 1: can shoot? Like all them dudes drip on the court

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Speaker 1: they got but it ain't none of christ. That's how

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Speaker 1: we looked at New yorkerss like New York Dude's gonna

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Speaker 1: cross you up and da da da dah, like.

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Speaker 4: That's definitely part of it, Wil and Swag. You know

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Speaker 4: a lot of our point guards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was known for, some of the

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Speaker 1: at New York for. They got ball handles all big,

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Speaker 4: What about the student in the studio, I don't think

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Speaker 4: inside the studio. I ran into somebody in the studio

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Speaker 4: that really gave me that feeling. Somebody sent me a

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Speaker 4: verse back, like you know, we it went from being

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Speaker 3: You know you send them the joint.

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Speaker 4: So like, somebody has sent me a joint back, and

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Speaker 4: I've been like, WHOA, that was tough.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think when I got hold verse back

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Speaker 3: There's been a couple of those, but.

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Speaker 4: Those email ones like I still got a shot now

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Speaker 4: now to you know what I mean, now the balls

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Speaker 4: I could rise to the occasion. So you know, but

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Speaker 4: a couple couple guys have sent me some verses back

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Speaker 4: Hole definitely was one.

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Speaker 1: Drake.

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Speaker 4: Drake was on a remix and these wasn't even like

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Speaker 4: like hard Streak versus. It's just that they did they thing,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, to the point where you

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Speaker 4: off the top of my head, say Jay and Drake.

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Speaker 4: But for the most part in the studio, I haven't

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Speaker 4: really I remember liking that this is a crazy story.

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Speaker 4: In like ninety nine, I had just signed an interscope.

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Speaker 4: We wanted to do a song with Lil Wayne, so

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Speaker 4: they set it up between Clue and I think Birdman,

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Speaker 4: and you know, Wayne was really young. It was funny

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Speaker 4: because they had like requests to come to the studio too,

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Speaker 3: Five bottles of Chris Style, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But you know, the label took care of it at

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Speaker 4: that point, you know what I'm saying. So even in

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Speaker 4: b onom Birdman and you know, they came with him.

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Speaker 4: I think they pulled up actually like on a tour

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Speaker 4: bus birdman.

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Speaker 4: Wayne's still very young at that point, you know, slim,

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Speaker 4: all of they you know, they crew came, They came.

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Speaker 3: In there, they threw the beat on.

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Speaker 4: I think Wayne might have like either had like a

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Speaker 4: Christalle with him. I mean, we got the Wayne verse,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't done like they came there Wayne.

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Speaker 4: I guess he had a verse that he you know,

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Speaker 3: Went in there, came out that be up. They was gone.

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Speaker 5: How was the verse?

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Speaker 3: Verse was cool? He did he did his thing. We

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Speaker 3: never we never the crazy part.

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Speaker 4: We never released that song, never released it, and they

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Speaker 4: got paid before before they got.

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Speaker 5: There, before the Yeah you was a hooper and you rap.

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Speaker 2: We're in that moment of time that your mentality was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm finna stop doing this sports stuff and I'm finna

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Speaker 2: focus on hip hop. I'm finna focus on rap. Oh

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Speaker 2: was you like when you like changed? Like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm a rapper.

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Speaker 3: But I love sports up until I think.

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Speaker 4: Maybe midway through high school where I thought where I

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Speaker 4: like started figuring that I wasn't gonna play professionally. Hip

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Speaker 4: Twelve years old. So now I'm in high school, it's

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Speaker 4: about my sixteen seventeen. I'm looking at it like I

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Speaker 4: still love to play ball. I still love sports, but

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Speaker 4: still would play sports. I still would. I was involved

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: At that point too, I had heard that a few times,

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Speaker 4: It was always the background or ran concurrent with whatever

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, Art was another thing too.

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Speaker 4: I remember like getting discouraged in art school because you

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Speaker 4: that's crazy. If you go to art school and it's

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Speaker 4: all right, I ain't maybe not as good as I

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Speaker 4: different things to look at, like, you know, all right,

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Speaker 4: what am I really gonna do? I started really feeling

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Speaker 4: in that point, but hip hop still felt genuine or organic.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have to look at that and say like,

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Speaker 4: all right, I'm not gonna be this. I can't fuck

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Speaker 4: with it no more, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I could look at it like I still love hip

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Speaker 4: hop even if I go.

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Speaker 3: Be a mailman.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be going to work listening to you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's kind of how. And then

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Speaker 4: things just started happening where people was hearing about me,

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Speaker 4: just gradually until it let up until clue, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And that was the thing that I

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Speaker 4: really got like, you know, I ain't get shot up

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Speaker 4: nine times like fifty or half different, like, but my

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Speaker 4: So they was cool with Skane who was Clues manager,

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But I just had to like get ready right here,

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Speaker 4: But you may have never got the rap ever again,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Or that was your shot

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Speaker 3: It's on the radio, so you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I always remembered that as making the most of opportunity

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Speaker 2: When did you feel like you was nice? He was

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because I'm looking at what's

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Speaker 4: just hear their styles here, to watch the movements, just

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Speaker 4: But I never wrapped in front of like I'm sure

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Speaker 3: High school, yeah, man college, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like it was some ship like that. It was still

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Speaker 4: It wasn't even something yet that I had feel but

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Speaker 3: And even when I went on Clue that night.

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Speaker 3: When I came to school, she was like, Yo, there was.

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Speaker 1: So we look at you, I mean we both, like

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Speaker 1: How did that become part of your style?

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Speaker 4: Truthfully, I couldn't say that. I like tapped on it

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Speaker 4: I'm ana show what's cool or whatever thing i was

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Speaker 3: Or when I first got the GT.

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Speaker 4: Bentley maybe like oh four, when I shot the video

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Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, were putting the big lead like this

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Speaker 4: and this is the look that I'm trying to you

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Speaker 1: That was. That was it.

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Speaker 5: Everybody. I still got jerseys to this day downtime.

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Speaker 3: Man, I got boxes of them and they see at

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Speaker 3: Like I got a big box of the story of.

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Speaker 5: The Jersey collection like some of the ones like and then.

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Speaker 4: I had that has to go with it, the Jays

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Speaker 4: I really put them in like these big tall boxes,

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Speaker 4: Like it's connected to players too, Like so if I

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Speaker 4: like you know the throwback ones was you know, old players.

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Speaker 4: He was wearing the people at the time, like you

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Speaker 2: Everybody known you to rock and fly Jersey that nobody else.

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Speaker 4: It was the time, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: So you know, big guys get the.

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Speaker 4: Football never gave me props for that, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, just just giving them a lane.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, fly to.

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Speaker 1: instant like outside of shock, it was like joking and Shack,

440
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, solidified himself with with the crew he was

441
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 1: rolling with. He went and got all the real.

442
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 4: Get itself around the right and he ain't compromised itself

443
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 4: really like you know what I'm saying. So that's why

444
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 4: he was.

445
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 3: But I was.

446
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 4: I would say, Dame Dame is game, Dame Dame tough.

447
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 4: I like the game and and on the mic, you

448
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I would say one of my

449
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 4: favorites right now.

450
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 5: Rooker part Rucker, like Rooker.

451
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 4: I got more like, I got more connection to Rutger

452
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 4: than Dykeman. Dykman is is is amazing. The energy is

453
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 4: is really dope like. And I like that for you know,

454
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 4: this era, and it's keeping the energy of Rutker, this era,

455
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

456
00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that too. But like Rutker was like like.

457
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: Rain go to Gauchos.

458
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 4: Just the energy of it being there across the street

459
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 4: from the projects, you know, it's all kind of Rutger.

460
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: Rutger literally made other cities try to emulate it. I

461
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: found myself going home to the greend I'm saying, I'm

462
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: almost shamed to say Chicago. I'm like, wait a minute, Chicago,

463
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 1: We Chicago need to be emulating nobody like they got

464
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 1: somebody run around the damn microphone talking. I'm like, man,

465
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: this is our pro we don't do all of this.

466
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody running on the damn court after you then

467
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: bought somebody like the ass in the crowd. It's all good.

468
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: But like Rutger was the first place to make cities

469
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 1: all over the place they wanted to emulate what was

470
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: going on that Rutger, and they didn't want it to

471
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: be in the gym. They wanted it to be at

472
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: the park because it was at the park and here

473
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Speaker 1: in New York, and they tried to like, y'all had

474
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: an energy. My man walking around with the belt. He

475
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: was wilding with the belt.

476
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Speaker 2: It was favorite movements in Rutger that you remember like

477
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: crazy that day.

478
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: It might have been there. It gotta probably beat him

479
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 4: bringing Kobe out right.

480
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,479
Speaker 1: That boy had the earpeach people walking around.

481
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a rumor like he came on a helicopter probably.

482
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: Wait, first of all, that's not literally a rumor. He

483
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: went from game, every game from home to the game,

484
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: and the helicopter we talked to him about, asked him,

485
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: he's the black Bruce Wayne the man, come come out

486
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: the back cave and the helicopter, get the.

487
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: Jo get the chop up. Yeah, I think it was.

488
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: They said he came and came through, landed the chopper

489
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: somewhere on the west side, came up, walked in there

490
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: like you're just not expecting to see Kobe in that

491
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: kind of.

492
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: Platform, you know what I mean.

493
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 5: Then he got off.

494
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 4: Y'all might be the second of the podcast and it's Rucker.

495
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: Then the podcast and you know what I mean.

496
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: You got listen when we got the confirmation, it was

497
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: like the President like, Yo, don't say nothing, take no pictures,

498
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: cram and nothing, like you know what I'm talking about.

499
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: This is this is on the need and no basis.

500
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: But I think that definitely might have been it.

501
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Though.

502
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: You cross the street from the projects and you're seeing

503
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 4: Kobe playing the park.

504
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you're seeing Kati.

505
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy, you know what I mean, that's crazy for

506
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 4: inner city kid, Like you know what I mean, Like

507
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: that's even motivation, that's you know, inspiration that you can't

508
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: even like pay for right there. And I'm sure it's

509
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: like I don't know what I'm sure it's somebody who's

510
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 4: been in there who've seen that push them, you know

511
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like if they like I want this energy,

512
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: like because when you see that, it's a different it's

513
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 4: different from the NBA. It's a whole different energy in that.

514
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 4: So like you like see that and see how people

515
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: loving you and you walking out the park and the

516
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: whole park following you, and that pull up was legendary.

517
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 5: Pulling up to the record, that's legendary.

518
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your New York fandom.

519
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: I think I already know the answer when it comes

520
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: down to like Brooklyn, like you Brooklyn.

521
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: Right with the Nets in the in the Knicks.

522
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the what? Where where we staying with?

523
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 4: It's a touchy subject, but I definitely got a roll

524
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 4: with Brooklyn because it's like it came to where my

525
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: home is, you know what I'm saying. I always was

526
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: a Knick fan because it represents New York. I'm from

527
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: New York.

528
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: But once the Nets came home, I gotta like, you

529
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

530
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 4: This is is And it's a deeper appreciation too, because

531
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: when they built the Barclays, it was kind of community driven,

532
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: Like I see people from my hoods and like, you

533
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: know they work in the Barclays, you know. Yeah, So

534
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty cool too as an organization.

535
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: I like that they opened the doors too from Brooklyn

536
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: and and you know what I mean, I'm seeing people

537
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: that I really you know, and grew up, you know

538
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 4: what I mean seeing. So I was like, that's that

539
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: was cool, you know what I mean. So I always

540
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 4: had a respect for.

541
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Speaker 1: Them for that and said, what what you think you

542
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: got Kyrie coming to town, KD. You got Jordan.

543
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: It's Lita about to you know what I mean. It's

544
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: about to be living Brooklyn real quick, so you know

545
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: what I mean. Me and Cas got to soap Brooklyn

546
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: running right now, so I can't wait.

547
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: To really be in there and really root for Katie.

548
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 4: And it's also two guys that you know, I appreciate

549
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: their game like they always been solid with me straight up.

550
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 4: Now getting them guys to play for you know where

551
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: you're from as a different respect for him as.

552
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 5: Well, Giants and the Jets.

553
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: I was, I was a Giants fan. I wasn't I

554
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: wasn't feeling the just the Oldell trade. I wasn't really

555
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: feeling that crazy certain stuff I'll be taking personally, even

556
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: though you shouldn't take it personally, like especially sports, it's

557
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: hard to take sports personally.

558
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: But as a fan sometimes you.

559
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: Be like, what did you feel when that came across

560
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: your phone and you saw that ob.

561
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Speaker 6: I wanted them to like like no, no, no, like

562
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 6: no disrespect to Eli, like but I wanted them to

563
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 6: get rid of Eli and run with this, like O'Dell sakon.

564
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: You want to him get something?

565
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: I thought the Giants. Well, I thought we was in

566
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: the same place, but I thought we both was like,

567
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: when the O'Dell trade came through, I'm like, what is

568
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 4: y'all doing?

569
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: I thought he was cool?

570
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: Cool?

571
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: What about the Yankees or the Metsu With.

572
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: The Yankees.

573
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: Fan, I've never been a fan. I went to some

574
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: Mets games though when I was in school. When I

575
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: was a kid, this guy like, if you got on

576
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 4: the honor roll the teacher, if you got on an

577
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: honor roll, he would take you to a Mets game.

578
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: So one time, like I wanted to really be on

579
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: like go to the games. So I worked my got

580
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 4: my grades up, got on the honor roll, went to

581
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Speaker 4: the Mets game.

582
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: It was cool.

583
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I think the next thing. I

584
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: wasn't even on the honor roll no more.

585
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: I just wanted to go.

586
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: And my mom was like, see, that's how you know

587
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 4: you could do it, because if you want something, you

588
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: know what I mean, you apply to it and you

589
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 4: do it. But from that point, you know what I mean,

590
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I always was a Yankees fan based

591
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: on the players, and you know, even through the nineties

592
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: when they had those great years and stuff like that,

593
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: I always was a Yankee fan, so I'm still like

594
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: more Yankee out.

595
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Speaker 1: Then you talked about like how seeing Jay come from

596
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: Marcie and your projects being similar to his, how that

597
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: inspired you and let you know, like yo, I could

598
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: do it? Talk about when you first met him, was

599
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: he well clearly wasn't as big as he is now,

600
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, but was he still like to you, like

601
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: meeting like MJ. Was that like your MJ moment? And

602
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: how has he like impacted you and everything you do?

603
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Showing you how he's moved and the moves he's made

604
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: and success he's had a lot.

605
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: Of it was was watching as well, you know what

606
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I didn't like ever like come at him

607
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: and be like yo, how you do this or how

608
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: it was?

609
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: It was more like us coming from the same place.

610
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: It's like it helps you relate to that person, but

611
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: at the same time, you still got your own story,

612
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: your own you know, Jay's J and Fab is fab.

613
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

614
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of things that he do. He

615
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: also gave me a lot of game throughout the years.

616
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: And just like you said, when he when he first

617
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: was I remember the time where it was kind of

618
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: like I felt like I was like the young guy

619
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 4: coming up and he was a guy in position that

620
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 4: was there at a certain time too, you know what

621
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

622
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: So I had to figure my own way.

623
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't just about coming and trying to figure out

624
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: how to come like him, you know what I'm saying.

625
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: It was like me, I gotta figure my own way.

626
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: Clue was connected to Jay, and Jay would do whatever

627
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: that he could do on that type of side. But

628
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: we had our own situation over here. I wasn't on

629
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: Rockefeller out. He had his own artists he got, you know.

630
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: So it was always like a respect thing too and

631
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: also an admiration a relation just coming from Brooklyn, you

632
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean. He got his own story, I

633
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 4: got mine, But we come from a similar part of

634
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: a part of town, you know what I'm saying, where

635
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: we could relate to what we see, what we grew

636
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: grew up seeing what we You know, he lived.

637
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: In a project, so I lived in a project too,

638
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

639
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: We got separate stories, but the relation of that alone

640
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: connects you, you know what I'm saying. So it was

641
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: a cool relationship. I would say number one point it

642
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: not like a competition, but it was just like you

643
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: gotta step in your own shoes. You gotta walk, you

644
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean. You gotta put your feet in

645
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: your own shoes and do it. And I never looked

646
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: at him like, yo, you gotta accept me. I'm young,

647
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: Brooklyn coming up. I just felt like, ya, gotta make

648
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: my my way, you.

649
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

650
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 4: And I know it's a lot of artists too, where

651
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: he would like look at getting a feature from Hole

652
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: that was like something they would aspire to, you.

653
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.

654
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: It was like a goal, you know what I'm saying.

655
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: So even with me, like.

656
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: I had to just wait till I got to that

657
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: point where it was time. And people have asked me this,

658
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: like other ya audio, how you get how you get

659
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: the features with whole? Like how you you know how

660
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: you listening? I'm like, it's really like you get there

661
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: and he kind of sees it almost like you know

662
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, It's kind of like he you know,

663
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: he knows when it's time or you know what I mean,

664
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: Like he's psych It's not something you just come to

665
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: him and be like, yoh, I need you on this

666
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: joint and he just jumped on, you know what I mean.

667
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: So I just worked until it got to that point.

668
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: And organically you ain't like just you can't force that,

669
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: can't rush it.

670
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: You can't force it even down to what you're doing.

671
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: If you're not, and he he take note of it,

672
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's still you put the work.

673
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: In to get there, you know what I'm saying.

674
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: So you gotta appreciate that, especially if somebody at his

675
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: level on caliber of what he's done in the game.

676
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Back in the day, do you feel like it was

677
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: more competitive amongst rappers than it is now?

678
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: It's like, y'all kind of like having.

679
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: The conversations, more people definitely that you can kind of

680
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: talk to and get We.

681
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: Was just talking about that with basketball too. Everybody's come together.

682
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: Instagram summertime, you know, make it. We don't want it

683
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: to seem like, yeah, we didn't hang out. We hung

684
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: out and did all that, but.

685
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: Like the competitiveness and the same people we hanging with,

686
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: we could fight in the game, right, I don't see

687
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: these young boys about to fight each other with the

688
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: dudes they cool with, like bruh.

689
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Like literally, me and Corey mcghetty is go back to

690
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: sixth grade, and you didn't sing it in practice with

691
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: us where we face to face, head to head about

692
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: to go at it right or wrong. I don't see

693
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: these young boys.

694
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: It's a different energy. I think the same thing in

695
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: hip hop, like you know what I mean. It's hip

696
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: hop has went through a couple of different transitions. We

697
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: lost some like you know, legends of scuffs too, Like

698
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: you know, bigg and Tupac was two people that hung

699
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: out together to you know, and.

700
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: Bok went on his rant. Biggie used to sleep on

701
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: my couch like you know what I mean.

702
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: So they definitely had a friendship in a camaraderie and

703
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: it ended up going the wrong way. And I think

704
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: the things that surrounded them too is what and neverly

705
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: made them like really bump heads as hard as they did.

706
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: I don't even think Biggie was that much on it

707
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: because he was not looking at it like in the

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: same way that Park was looking at it. But you know,

709
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: I think hip hop we've tooken a few losses, you

710
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And I think that comes into

711
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: play with where people is like, all right, let's not

712
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: make it as competitive. Everybody's here to try to make

713
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: great music, make some money, you know, take their families

714
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: out the hood, do different things like that. But it's

715
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: still the sport of hip hop is still a competitive sport.

716
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

717
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: You want to be the best, You want to be

718
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: on a song and have the best verse. You want

719
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: to you know, had the fly is fit at the

720
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: Awards show.

721
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: You you know what I mean. Like, you know, some

722
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: of those things are connected to being.

723
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: That guy, you know what I'm saying. And I think

724
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: in sports it's the same way. We've seen a lot

725
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: of Even we talked about how me and my boys

726
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: talked about how there wasn't a lot of team up

727
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: kind of basketball in the nineties too.

728
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: It was you know, Jordan had his squad.

729
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: Wilkins had his squad, had his squad, Magic had his squad.

730
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: You know, they build teams, but the superstars didn't like

731
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: look to like, all right, the summer we're going to

732
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: talk about getting together, right, you know, I don't know

733
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: when it was the first, Uh we had to talk

734
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: about what was the first that it might have been

735
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: the Boston Big Three? Was it was it what we

736
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: were saying, was it them that came together and really

737
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: put together like a big three.

738
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: And then I think the Lebron.

739
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean people would see the thing where you see

740
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: on TV. People would argue, like, well, the Lakers had

741
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: like all them dudes became Hall of Famers because they

742
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: won like twelve, you know, having many championships, like at the.

743
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: Time, the team Magic Jams, and.

744
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: They say, they say, even though they were like built,

745
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: they still were They say they were a super team

746
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: because they had four Hall of Fame, but like the

747
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because they won.

748
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: And some of them may be role players who grew into.

749
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: Being They weren't always they finished product.

750
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: They grew to They got Kareem like Kareem in the

751
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: trade and then you got your draft Magic Karen, you

752
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: got Worthy, and you got the rest of them.

753
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other people were great role player players

754
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: as well. You know what I'm saying.

755
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: The Byron Scotts, the Michael Cooper's, all of those guys

756
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: helped make the team a great team. So it wasn't

757
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: like coming together in the summer saying, yo, you need

758
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: to come over here.

759
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: That that wasn't going on.

760
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: To me back then, you know what I'm saying, Like

761
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: Jordan's team was built off of him, the drafted pipping

762
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: and you know.

763
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had their squad and they rolled with their

764
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: second run.

765
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: They always touched first.

766
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Speaker 3: Many years they lost.

767
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: They became the m v P. It's over the first

768
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: time he got a coast that we went and we

769
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: went the rest of the way. So that anybody that's

770
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: that's a irrelevant conversation for me.

771
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: The Pistons is all of them teams that was great

772
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: teams in them eras they put together a team and

773
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: the team the Superstars though, didn't come together like some

774
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: time of superstars.

775
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: Came together with the dream teams.

776
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't though, you know what I mean, It wasn't

777
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: And that was you know what that was special seeing

778
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: as a girl, he was like damn Michael playing with

779
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: Magic Barry David.

780
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: Robb seeing them when they get together, like all of

781
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: the footage we saw from the documentary on like they

782
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: was Addy, you watched the All Star Games. Now, I

783
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: don't be like, what do I want to see the

784
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: All Star Game when them dudes get together, Like all right,

785
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping, like I get it. It's just the

786
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: all start break kick it in the first second half,

787
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: turn up, turn up, like what Cole said. Turn up,

788
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: he said him and CP when they was on team,

789
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: they was undefeeded. He told it. They took it sherious

790
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: like and he want to see it too, like turn up.

791
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: This is what the millions and everybody want to say

792
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: when she the best collection of all the players on

793
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: the planet get together and not let's go in it,

794
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: clash the Avengers, let's go at it. This is what

795
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: it is when you get to the all starcond. I

796
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: ain't tripped, I ain't trying to see nobody get hurt

797
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: out there, and all started show chill time a little bit.

798
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: But they then gave us some extra days. Now it

799
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: ain't like you just there for the weekend and you're done. People.

800
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: They didn't give y'all a bigger like the team to

801
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: win get a million dollars or something. They get a

802
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: bonus like brou who go out there and get at it.

803
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: Y'all want to see Kyrie against Dame. I want to

804
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: see whoever against whoever. And I want to see y'all

805
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: square up and like take it serious. Don't let them

806
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: walk to the hole and go show out like no

807
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: second half. Let's real, let's second quarter and on. Let's

808
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: let's get to it, see some real hoop. Everybody's getting

809
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: out there.

810
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: Get too The real question is do you think it

811
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: ever will get back to that or it's gonna get

812
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: more friendly?

813
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: It just take the main guys, the main guys. If

814
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: like when Lebron go, when when KD go, when everybody

815
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: else is new to the game, to have me, they

816
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna fall in line. That's how this go when the

817
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: big boys started like going, Man, who go Lebron out

818
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: there playing hard and playing serious and tell y'all let's go.

819
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Who ain't gonna follow him? I don't know who else?

820
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if he ain't seeing yo,

821
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's not ain't no layups.

822
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: He know this.

823
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: It just take one of the main dudes to turn

824
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: the tie, like, hey, we real so you know how

825
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: that's like me playing in the Big Three this year?

826
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: What I told you something for? I play for man

827
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: be out there just telling us that thing you're getting

828
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: the ring like, hold up, it's a real NBA A ringer.

829
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Hold up, it's cameras we on TV. Hold up, way

830
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: he just tried to come at me, like, now, Pa,

831
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: come to play like all this I just said I

832
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do. Now I'm doing and I'm taking this

833
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: serious and I'm about to fight too whatever it is,

834
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: because like Pride gonna come, you know, shot on me

835
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: in front of TV. So like all to take it

836
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: one person up, pop pop or do something to somebody

837
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: and here.

838
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: We go, yeah playing, oh yeah, playing for real?

839
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: There you go. If somebody get for real, you trying

840
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: to Okay, hold up, run that ball, give me the

841
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: ball back right? What you're gonna do if somebody come

842
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: down on you and whatever said? When you and your

843
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: prime and you're doing you a hose? What run that ball? Like,

844
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: tell him what it is.

845
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: I even think the the sportsmanship was so high with

846
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: players back then too, like even with the team it

847
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: was a little different. Like I've I ain't been in

848
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: no huddles or nothing, but like I've seen or heard

849
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: like on docs or like Michael Jordan's too, like he

850
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: stepped to you if you ain't like you know what

851
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like fuck is you doing? You're trying to

852
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: win and you you slouching around when I throw you

853
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: that past? You make that like they was on them

854
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: in that way, not like on something like everybody just yeah,

855
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: holding you accountable. You got one job, Steve Kurr. Knocked

856
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: that fucking shot down, knock that ship down.

857
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: That's it.

858
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 7: You shoot. You don't do nothing up. Who you got

859
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 7: to win the championship this year? But what you got?

860
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 7: What team you got coming out to East, what team

861
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 7: you got coming off the world? He say, I got

862
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 7: the Clippers win it all?

863
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Opinion like this is my d this is this is

864
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: my take on it right now as a symbol both teams.

865
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: If the Lakers stay healthy, I can't go against a

866
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: D Lebron together healthy. And that's before you can't tell

867
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: you know they didn't put some pieces with them. But

868
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying before they even did anything, once the

869
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: trade was complete. You remember I told you when they

870
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: ad got Tellor. I said, well, I said, it's not

871
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: really over. I say, but it's over if they The

872
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: only thing is semantics, like if they could you know,

873
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: because a D may get hurt here or there. I

874
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: don't think Lebron. I know Lebron and did everything possible

875
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: not to have what happened last year happened. So only

876
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: act that God is gonna change that. So he gonna

877
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: be ready. Them two could stay healthy. Not to say

878
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: that it's just unstoppable, but it's pretty much it's.

879
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: Too about the La Golden State, Denver.

880
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: G stay really, Clay ain't gonna be back to the February.

881
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: So about Houston, who'st gonna.

882
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Be in the running. But I don't know that they

883
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Like I say, a healthy a D. A D was

884
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: wrecking on entire league by himself, the entire league with

885
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: no help. So what I'm saying the man got Lebron

886
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: with him, and we already know what Lebron do not.

887
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm just listen, Clipper was strong, but I'm just I'm

888
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna be real. We already know the last how many years,

889
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: whatever team Lebron was on automatic be it to the finals,

890
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: that was automatic. Now he adds somebody who a top

891
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: three or four player in the league, and he's young,

892
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: who could really say, okay, Lebron, go manage yourself, game

893
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: manage and take a couple of games. I'm just go

894
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: forty these games while you out, and he legit could

895
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: do that if he's healthy. Ad could be a potential

896
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: MVP candidate. Easy well, Lebron setting up the table. He

897
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: potentially if he stays healthy the entire time outside of

898
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron, I mean outside of the way Lebron had

899
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: no better teammate than him.

900
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: The crazy part is that is all of these teams

901
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: are so brand new that this is all speculations, like

902
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: to go from their twenty eighteen roster and just say,

903
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: like I'm looking at it, like that's what I was

904
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: sitting here thinking.

905
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: Everybody's different.

906
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: Everything.

907
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: Everybody who is the top tier teams last year, They're

908
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: all different except for maybe Denver.

909
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 5: I don't feel like them were gonna be up there

910
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 5: as as they was last year.

911
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: Utah gonna be harding them.

912
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Denver ain't gonna do the Prove

913
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: shuffle and change like now you've got the Clippers, you

914
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: got the Lakers.

915
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: Right, it changes the whole dynamic. Slippers was eighth even

916
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: on the e likes has changed so much. Boston changed

917
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 4: a little bit, Yeah, Miami changed a little bit, lost Kawhi,

918
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, there's so many different changes.

919
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: Is that I'm go for their twenty eighteen history, like

920
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's like I got to

921
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 4: just open the book and see where it starts.

922
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: Out this year.

923
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: League is gonna be lit subscribers getting it in.

924
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: I'm undecided, man, But y'all Clippers, I'm gonna watch out

925
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: for y'all picks though, Clippers and you don't got no pick.

926
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

927
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: I'm so it's such a juggle for me. I can't

928
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 4: even say. I can't even say nobody that I think.

929
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: I want to see how all of these new new

930
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: teams plan out, Like I don't even know, Like like

931
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: I said, Houston, but then I said that, I'm looking

932
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: at see all these means we're harder than Westbrook fight

933
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: over the ball, like you know, you don't like.

934
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: That's something I don't know how it's gonna go compenation

935
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: like how.

936
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 5: I like it.

937
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: I like that that duo because it's not in insane

938
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 4: Like when I look at KAWHII and Paul George, I

939
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: feel like it's.

940
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: A similar.

941
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, hardening. They both ron and they you.

942
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, go back to how.

943
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: Big like Kobe and Ship.

944
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: In l A what I hope for. I won't see

945
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: Clippers and the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. Let's

946
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: see that. I'm satisfaction popcorn.

947
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: We can't get y'all that.

948
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: Sin go to New York and Brooklyn and these I don't.

949
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Think that's gonna happen, Not right now, not right now.

950
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: That's the pipe dream.

951
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: Brooklyn gonna be in the city, Brooklyn gonna get in them,

952
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna get in the sleigh offfs.

953
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: They're gonna get up there there in there.

954
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: When k get back, when KD get back, then it's

955
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: gonna be a whole different ball. That's a whole different ball.

956
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: Guy.

957
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't even talking with KD, but KD, that's a

958
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 4: whole different Ballgan.

959
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: I want to ask you this.

960
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: You deep into fashion, and I like our fashion era

961
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: more than I like the fashion era now. I feel like, yeah,

962
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: our stuff was baggy, but we wasn't wearing this.

963
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: Hip hop.

964
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 2: He hates the fashion back then to the fashion now

965
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: because you got guys wearing skinny jeans like the rock stars.

966
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: Like, it's a whole lot of stuff.

967
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just changed.

968
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: I think you gotta be do what's comfortable for you

969
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: and your style. That's how I always approach fashion period.

970
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: You know, there's different trends, like you said, and I

971
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: and I, you know, during the during the early two

972
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: thousand era, everything was bigger, it was baggier, and that

973
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: was just, you know, the trend of the time. Now,

974
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: you know, I might not be wearing super skinnies, but

975
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna wear you know.

976
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you Euro. I'm nowhere near Euro. But I'm

977
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: not five exhal no more either. I'm closer to my

978
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: regular one exale. I should be wearing. No, I don't no,

979
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't stop it, stop it.

980
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: Don't what you think about the younger catt this new

981
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: style of clothes, because you think it's.

982
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's the day time.

983
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

984
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: You can't, you know, it was a time we would

985
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: look at we would look at what our parents was wearing.

986
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: Look at them crazy too, and or they would look

987
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: at what we say.

988
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: It was a time when we came in, like when

989
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: we came in the league, were wearing Jordan everything do

990
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: rags literally the game everything was doing our entire wardrobe.

991
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: He too, made him suit up. Y'all ever responsible for

992
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: making you ain't gonna be just coming to these games

993
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: and do rags.

994
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: And uh, you know he I got mama braid is

995
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: here on the bench on his braids popped us. She

996
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: fixed it on the bench boy, like we come on man.

997
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: We came in under the heavy AI influence, big change,

998
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: the Ice age, everything was going on, and that was

999
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: that was like now it's kind of coming back, but

1000
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: Ice had went out it for men. Now it's coming back.

1001
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: But we was when it was dumb, stupid. We had

1002
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: everything but our social security on our first change piece boy. Everything.

1003
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: We wanted that thing as.

1004
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Big as it could be, Like yeah, that's that was.

1005
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 4: That was the error that was, and it was an

1006
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: era of hip hop also ushering into the NBA.

1007
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: This man Jersey was in every beat. We like man

1008
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: we used to last he used called a bay while

1009
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: mister one on six in part what would you say,

1010
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: no he ain't my young boy right here? Come on man.

1011
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: We was in La Bro. He came in La He eighteen,

1012
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen. We can't get in a no club. And

1013
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: then it took only so long to find out, Wait

1014
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: a minute, all the video girls lived together. My boy

1015
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: here hiped everybody to that and it was, you know,

1016
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: like mister one on six in part legit legitimately like man,

1017
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: come on man from from his from if it wasn't

1018
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: his jersey in the video. It was somebody in the

1019
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: video like you feel me with one that I.

1020
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Say, Man, I think I would. I think I would

1021
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: the joining.

1022
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: It with him or Jersey was the most popular Clipper

1023
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Jor you might catch one off me eld nor Corey,

1024
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: but it was the Miles and low. Jersey was in

1025
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: everything back then. Literally Yellow was from New York and everybody.

1026
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: He was like co runner off rookie year the year before,

1027
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: and he was the man on our team again. He

1028
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: was the highest rookie well straight out of high school

1029
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: ever taken and with just a fema. It was one

1030
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: of them too. It was out of there. That was

1031
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: the first time we really start, like he said in

1032
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: the thing like that was the first time people started

1033
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: rocking with the clips in a positive way.

1034
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: Y'all was drafted together or.

1035
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: Together to Yeah, two thousand. What about jerseys back then

1036
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: to jerseys now? I like the fit better now.

1037
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 5: Of the material of it.

1038
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: No, I like the way we're wearing them now, Like

1039
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: I like, you know, it's more fitted.

1040
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: It's more like a clean look, you know what I'm saying. Like, Yeah,

1041
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: Like last.

1042
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: Summer I was wearing it like a like a basketball

1043
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: jersey with like a like a button up over.

1044
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think Nike completely changed everything they took.

1045
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: They every just the whole gear game on the NBA sides,

1046
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: just out of this world. You'll see the hoodies, everything

1047
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: just Nike just swagged out. But I would was you

1048
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: asking more as like the designs, like like yeah about

1049
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: like the nineties. The nineties with like the Raptors jerseys

1050
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: were like now it's kind of more like.

1051
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: Even the throwbacks, like they looked at dope just being

1052
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: brought to you know that era they was seventies jerseys

1053
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: or eighties jerseys.

1054
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: But in that era, the you know what I mean.

1055
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I feel like Jordan and Nike them doing a dope

1056
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: job with the jerseys. But I want to see them

1057
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: go back to when I think about when Mike played

1058
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: and they had to Cactus jerseys where they had them dumb,

1059
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: dumb till blue with the like they're going like all

1060
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: white and black. Kind of to me, it's like man

1061
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: freaking out of y'all going to Miami, go with the

1062
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: pink Miami fights for the whole thing.

1063
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: Story because that was the Phoenix.

1064
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Whatever. You do something like that and get somebody to come.

1065
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: In and like you hear that word up.

1066
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, get back to it. That

1067
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: was hard.

1068
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: Albums or mixtapes.

1069
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Used to be mixtapes. But I think it's albums now.

1070
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 4: I think because mixtapes have are coming out on the

1071
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: same platform as albums now, like you can't even like

1072
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: people are titling them mixtapes. But mixtapes before, you know,

1073
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: like it was freestyles, you over other people's beats. Now

1074
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: mixtapes have become the project where just over your own,

1075
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, over your own beats, you know what I mean.

1076
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: So it's changed the mixtape dynamic.

1077
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: The way we get it is. Yeah, I missed that

1078
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: miss used.

1079
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: To have to like it was a process. It was

1080
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: sneaky underground man.

1081
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I used to on the street. I got that news.

1082
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: You used to be.

1083
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Her.

1084
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: You ain't heard that news, oh like you had you

1085
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: had to take People want to or they want to

1086
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: burn it or cobby digital streaming. So it's it's a

1087
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: different hole. How you digest it, it's different.

1088
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: What about Uh, what's your favorite verse? You ever?

1089
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, so many, so many, man, I got that's

1090
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: even hard down to songs, so verse I don't know.

1091
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: I just want one of my favorites Gotta be.

1092
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: Young O G two because I talked a little bit

1093
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 4: about just raising my son and having a son and

1094
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: that whole experience and telling him how I want to

1095
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: like raise him and teach him to do things. And

1096
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: I wasn't taught these things, but now it's made me

1097
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: make sure that I want to be be there for

1098
00:49:59,480 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: doing that.

1099
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: And and it was kind of like.

1100
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 4: Me speaking on how he's evolved me as a man.

1101
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you have a kid,

1102
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 4: but at the same time, you having a kid grows

1103
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: you up too, you know what I'm saying. So me

1104
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: speaking on that in that song, that was one of

1105
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: my favorite verses. People have hit me and told me

1106
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: they they related to it too, just from having a

1107
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: having a kid, and.

1108
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: It just raises them up a little bit more.

1109
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: It become a different You know, when you're out here

1110
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: just you, you don't have no responsibility. You know, you

1111
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: still you're a man, You're still doing with you. But

1112
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: to have another responsibility.

1113
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 5: Now purpose who in rap?

1114
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: Now that you you mess with us out just kind

1115
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: of doing any thing that you kind of listen to

1116
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Come.

1117
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: Up, man, I like a lot of guys. Man, I

1118
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 4: like him for different, different reasons.

1119
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: Different you know.

1120
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 4: Some of them is you know, their energy, some as flows,

1121
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: some is songs, you know what I mean. Still listen

1122
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: to some of the old old school, I guess you

1123
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: would say old school, the nineties, two thousands.

1124
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: Like I still feel like that's a vibe that you

1125
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: can't take away.

1126
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: It's like I.

1127
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: Grew up on this, so it's you gotta and it's

1128
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: not the same anymore. Yeah, I missed that right.

1129
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: It's almost like it's it's different, little different versions of

1130
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 4: the same music.

1131
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1132
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: It's like nineties is two thousands and twenty ten on

1133
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: it might be a little different whole vibe, you know

1134
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And now we're here in twenty nineteen.

1135
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: So but I appreciate all styles of it. I got

1136
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: a son now he's eleven, so he listening to all the.

1137
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: Little guys little you know what I mean.

1138
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: So he you know, I appreciate all of it, you

1139
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1140
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: And sometimes it even cross a line, like I do

1141
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: a song with a little UZI he like my son,

1142
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: could you're like, oh yo, he did a song with

1143
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: louse you know what I'm saying. So it kind of

1144
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: connects to they world a little bit more, you know

1145
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So cool, Yeah, hit my cool point,

1146
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: so you know what I mean, And some of the

1147
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: things I do just to because he wasn't here during

1148
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 4: the times.

1149
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: Where I was those positions.

1150
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: But you know, I did two K twenty recently, so

1151
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: that's like a thing for his dad. In two K twenty,

1152
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, you know what I'm saying. But I

1153
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: had did I think NBA Live, what O three or

1154
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: something like that, but you know what I mean, he

1155
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: wasn't here for that, so he adn't really get So

1156
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: that was one cool thing about doing it now, was

1157
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: like not him getting to see it and him being.

1158
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: Experience it too.

1159
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Rock Nations explain to me what the Rock Nation meaning

1160
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: you and being under the unbrother.

1161
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: Rock Nation is family.

1162
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: It's always been that way, you know, even everybody through

1163
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: their structure. Like I said, I was signing the Clue

1164
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: and Clue was signed the Rockefeller. It's always been like

1165
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: distant family. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So when

1166
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 4: I went over there, it was you know, still connecting

1167
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 4: with Lennis. You know, their whole team and Tata and

1168
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: all the guys there, Emery, everybody there was. You know,

1169
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: it was like working with family, so it didn't even

1170
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: feel like work. It didn't feel like he was just

1171
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: signing to somebody and you had to worry about where

1172
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: how it was gonna play out. Also with whole he's

1173
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 4: like artist artists, you know what I'm saying.

1174
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: So he.

1175
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: When he does things, he's doing it from a platform

1176
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: of not just business, but also for the artists and

1177
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: keeping the artists forward in the front of what he's doing.

1178
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: You know, when he did the title, it was it

1179
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: was about the artists getting fair share and the streaming.

1180
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: What'sn't it because you may not get that with Apple,

1181
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: you may not get that with Spotify, you man, you

1182
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So they were giving you the

1183
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: best splits and I always, you know, admire that as well.

1184
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1185
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: It's like when a player gets to be a coach

1186
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: or a player gets to be a GM you know

1187
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: what I mean, if they don't lose lose it on

1188
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: the way up, they remember it, you know, coming from

1189
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: the same walks of life as the players as well.

1190
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: So you know, you gotta appreciate that.

1191
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: That's dope. My my question. I always like to know, Bru,

1192
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: like when you first got to a point where whatever

1193
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: the amount of money was. You know, we all come

1194
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: from the from the hood, and I know when we

1195
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: became rookies, the little whatever money we got, we thought

1196
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: we was rich. So in mind, I'm like, what I'm

1197
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: about to get something like, I ain't nobody.

1198
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: It was rich to your previous lifestyle.

1199
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: You feel me, we are rich instantly we thought we were.

1200
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: We thought we was rich. Like what like, So I

1201
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: want to know what you did, what you go by

1202
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: that looking back on now as an adult like ship,

1203
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: that probably wasn't the best thing to do, but like

1204
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: when you did it, it was like like now I did.

1205
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: I won't regret I bought a car and I was

1206
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: lit that summer. I don't regret that at all. Like

1207
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: l six hundred bens.

1208
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: Big boy bow legging, I know you put them things

1209
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: on the den.

1210
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 3: That was one of my best summers ever. I have

1211
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: no that was.

1212
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1213
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: Was it old?

1214
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Because I ain't had a six hundred. I had to

1215
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: ceel fifty five, AMG. And I'm proud of it to

1216
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: this day because we was on Lincoln Avenue and I

1217
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: tore Corey mcghetty ass out the frame and the Ferrari Spider.

1218
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: You remember when we got the practice. I told you

1219
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: about it, you know, gotta change gears and do all

1220
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: that shit. We'd have went about about ten seconds longer.

1221
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: He would have told my ass out of the frame,

1222
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: but I had it not already liked that I did,

1223
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: it took off and you still back there changing gears.

1224
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that was one of my favorite cars.

1225
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Average yeah, but that you was like, I can't believe

1226
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: I payed that much for it for that, and he's like, damn,

1227
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: I did that.

1228
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't a crib because I think when you buy

1229
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: a house, you were kind of like you can tell

1230
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: what accepted like. It probably was some jurry, It probably was.

1231
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: It probably was a chain or to our boys, definitely.

1232
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: I mean, but I also looked at I was.

1233
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I was.

1234
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: I really don't have regrets on any of that though,

1235
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 4: because it it kind of is a part of where

1236
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: like your story, like if you look at your as

1237
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 4: your life and the story as chapters of your life,

1238
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: where you're gonna have to go through some things to

1239
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: get you to the ending chapters. So I look at

1240
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: you know, buying those things even how I used to

1241
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: buy jury versus how by jury. Now I've learned how

1242
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 4: to buy jury.

1243
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: Only because you went through what you went through, right,

1244
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: you know.

1245
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like if you're not and we don't

1246
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 4: come from nobody being able to teach us how you

1247
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, we don't have even down

1248
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: to want a rolex. It was because you wanted the

1249
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 4: rolex because but somebody could tell you, Yo, this is

1250
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: a rolex and it's gonna hold its value. Here we

1251
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: didn't have nobody. We ain't have nobody even ahead of

1252
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: us who had a rolex.

1253
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: Which is why we weigh so much money before you

1254
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: really realize and start saving, because we ain't had that.

1255
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, when you sit in the locker

1256
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: room with some of your teammates and some of your people,

1257
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 1: I can remember saying with you know what I'm saying,

1258
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: just talking with J. J. Reddick, say you ready don't

1259
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: got none of the same ship going on the weekend

1260
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: going on at the crib, bro You're talking about different stuff.

1261
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: They like, wait you guys, wait what you guys give

1262
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: your parents money? Like yeah, that's what I said. You

1263
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, nah, bro, like the.

1264
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: Go ahead, baby, do whatever you have to do. Lifestyle

1265
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: you're looking to take care of and we really have to.

1266
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: Like it ain't even like just something you always you

1267
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 4: want to do it, but it's like you if I'm

1268
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: not doing that, Like how would you even.

1269
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: You flew everybody out to your wedding? They can flew theirselves.

1270
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, bro, help out. You know what I'm saying.

1271
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: They couldn't come.

1272
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1273
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: Coover did an article with the players trip and uh

1274
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: he was talking about his Uh he was talking about

1275
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: andre Igdalard was one of his one his teammates, and

1276
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: he was like andre told him like yeah, man, I

1277
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: gotta pay my mama bill and I got to take

1278
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 2: care of all.

1279
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 5: These bill and he was like, man, you pay your

1280
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: mama bill.

1281
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: You're right.

1282
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: So he didn't know like this supposed to be this and.

1283
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 4: That, like right, we didn't have nobody even before us

1284
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: to even see it coming. Like you know what I'm saying,

1285
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: we didn't even have seen nobody Ndland bill. We've seen

1286
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 4: people struggling to pay their bills every month.

1287
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody around us ever had this much money. That's crazy. Actually,

1288
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this. You came to

1289
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: Saint Louis and I think we nelling them had like

1290
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: a game. I don't know if it was a pro

1291
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: am game or it was like a charity game or something.

1292
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: And we was in the locker room and he was

1293
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: about the battle hit man holler when he was like younger,

1294
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: young you don't remember that. No, I was like it

1295
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: was like early two thousand one, say like two thousand

1296
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: and one, crazy and you ain't hit me? And how

1297
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: about the ball? And the way you was looking at

1298
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: it was like you about the fight. And then Nelly

1299
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: came into locker road. It was like nah, nah man,

1300
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: forget that, come on shit And that was like a

1301
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: minute minute. And she was training on the island and

1302
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: there was three albums you had to have on the

1303
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: island with you.

1304
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 5: One of them three albums you would have.

1305
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: MM shit, I might go.

1306
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Speaker 4: Chay Z's Blueprint, I might go Nahs it was written,

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Speaker 4: and I might go I think I need one though.

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Speaker 1: R and B joint just I don't want to see it.

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: They're trying to curve you. But okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I like one though, that is it? Mm hm, who's

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Speaker 3: that one?

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Speaker 4: You ain't got no chicks there, so you just need

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: a good vibe, chicken straight.

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: If you don't want no.

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01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: Nothing that makes you think too hard, you just want

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01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: a vibe. Maybe maybe maybe marry j Blige the four one.

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01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: One say, I ain't know what you have, but I

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01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: was thinking married though my mom.

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Speaker 2: But if you had to pick two other rappers to

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01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: do three on three with to go against, and yeah,

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: who is the other two rappers you will pick to

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: play with?

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Speaker 7: You?

1324
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: Can it just be an artist or could it be artists?

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Speaker 4: And Chris is good? Chris Brown, Chris Chris Is, Chris

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: is amazing talent bro Like I don't even know. Yeah,

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01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: God just schooled all kind of all kinds of art

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: like this all kind of ship like you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. Uh, there's a couple of kids, a couple

1330
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Speaker 4: of guys I played with. I would say Chris, and

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 4: I would say Davies could play, to Tray could play.

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 4: There's some guys who play, but they're not like ball players.

1333
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Speaker 4: Like I'm sure y'all see a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Say, Ja Cole the Kobe Hooper, I want.

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Speaker 4: I seen I never played with Gucci, I play I

1337
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 4: never played with I just see the video. And you

1338
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: know one thing about the Instagram videos, you get all

1339
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: the highlights. That's the only thing I'm gonna say about

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 4: I g you know what I'm saying. But I played

1341
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 4: with Chris, I play with East, I played with Trey, you.

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: Know for the most part Themons.

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Speaker 5: Three that I know.

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Speaker 1: So basically, we got the special edition Hennessy vs. O P. Man.

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: This is the Knuckleheads edition. Man. We appreciate you for

1346
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: coming out rapping us.

1347
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: Put this up on the bar, man.

1348
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1349
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: I can't even touch this.

1350
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: That yeah, all right, man, that's the rap man. We

1351
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: just got through chopping it up. The blackest one in

1352
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: the building, got my man f a vido in the building, sir.

1353
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: We got it in the day.

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Speaker 3: Man Man, we talked some talk, some real ship.

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