1
00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,480
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

2
00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

3
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:18,520
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

4
00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:27,640
Speaker 1: into strategy of normalcy. Welcome to a Tuesday edition of

5
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,200
Speaker 1: One Bills Live here in Orchard Park, New York, cloudy day.

6
00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,879
Speaker 1: We did a live stream Mattie Glavine I just a

7
00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,960
Speaker 1: few about an hour ago during practice the Bills, as

8
00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,440
Speaker 1: we say every day, they are neck deep in at folks,

9
00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,560
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills getting ready for the two twenty season.

10
00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here from the Seneca Studios here in Orchard Park,

11
00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,960
Speaker 1: and I'm pleased to be joined today for the entire

12
00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,320
Speaker 1: three hours by my co host, Kevin Connors, ESPN anchor

13
00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,320
Speaker 1: on Sports Center. He's been in the broadcast industry since

14
00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,040
Speaker 1: he was an a college kid playing hoops in Ithaca. Kevin,

15
00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,760
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show. It's great to meet

16
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440
Speaker 1: you and and I'm glad you have a free three

17
00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,399
Speaker 1: hour to spend with us today, you know, day off, Steve,

18
00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,800
Speaker 1: I thought what could possibly be better than three hours

19
00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,319
Speaker 1: of talking Buffalo Bill's football with a Hall of Fame player,

20
00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,360
Speaker 1: I say hall of Fame player I know that the

21
00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,320
Speaker 1: official call hasn't come, but I don't care about that

22
00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,399
Speaker 1: because anyone who watched you play knows you're a Hall

23
00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,520
Speaker 1: of Famer. So in my book, that's what I'm going

24
00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,760
Speaker 1: with the title is Steve Tasker Hall of Famer. Well,

25
00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,039
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's it's nice here, But I you know,

26
00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,720
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you how you became. I mean,

27
00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,479
Speaker 1: you grew up out where'd you where'd you were? Bristol,

28
00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720
Speaker 1: New Yor where is Bristol? Is that a Long Island? No? No,

29
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,520
Speaker 1: I so ESPN's in Bristol, Connecticut. I grew up on

30
00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Long Island in the town called Rockville Center. That's it.

31
00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 1: So it's a south shore of Long Island. We're probably

32
00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,880
Speaker 1: got down Sunrise Highway. It's a ten minute drive to Queens.

33
00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200
Speaker 1: My dad took the Long Island railroad into New York

34
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 1: City for about forty years, so that's about a forty

35
00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800
Speaker 1: five minute commute into Penn Station, which is right for

36
00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,240
Speaker 1: those who don't know, right below Madison Square Garden. So

37
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,959
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm a I'm a Bills fan. I've got

38
00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,120
Speaker 1: I've got a picture of me when I'm like six

39
00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,120
Speaker 1: for Christmas, I got a I got an O J

40
00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,480
Speaker 1: jersey and a what's now the current helmet, what used

41
00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 1: to be the old helmet now again the current helmet,

42
00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,640
Speaker 1: the white Bills helmet. Been a Bills fan ever since.

43
00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,280
Speaker 1: And believe me, Steve, let me tell you, not easy

44
00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720
Speaker 1: when you're a Bills fan on Long Island surrounded by

45
00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 1: Jets and Giants fans everywhere. Yeah, how's that go? I mean,

46
00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,000
Speaker 1: how did it happen that you didn't go with the

47
00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,840
Speaker 1: Jets or Giants? Being a Long Island kid. My dad's

48
00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,359
Speaker 1: from central New York. He's from just outside the Utica area. Okay,

49
00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,280
Speaker 1: so I you know, like like him, I rooted for

50
00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,400
Speaker 1: the Yankees, I rooted for Syracuse basketball and football, and

51
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,440
Speaker 1: I and I rooted for the Buffalo Bills. And it

52
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,079
Speaker 1: was in the eighties. Of course, we're early on, we're

53
00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,720
Speaker 1: lean years. And then as obviously you well know, and

54
00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,079
Speaker 1: we're a huge part of we we you know, we

55
00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,280
Speaker 1: hit the glory years of the franchise there in the

56
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,239
Speaker 1: late eighties and early nineties, and it was a surreal experience.

57
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't get the Bills all the time.

58
00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,480
Speaker 1: Obviously the national TV games we'd get, but you know,

59
00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,959
Speaker 1: it's Jets and Giants country down on Long Island, so

60
00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,639
Speaker 1: you know, every time the Bills were on it was

61
00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,840
Speaker 1: appointment television. And then of course the Super Bowl run

62
00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320
Speaker 1: and going up against the Giants and Super Bowl twenty five,

63
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,440
Speaker 1: it was it was me against the world, baby, but

64
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,960
Speaker 1: it was an awesome experience. So wait, yeah, what do

65
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,160
Speaker 1: you remember about that? What was your favorite Bills memory?

66
00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly the Super Bowls were great and all

67
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,280
Speaker 1: those times, and there's a lot of ups and downs.

68
00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what galvanized you when you were a kid,

69
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760
Speaker 1: and what what was your proudest moment when the you know,

70
00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,760
Speaker 1: when you're watching the Bills from so far away, you

71
00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,760
Speaker 1: don't even get to see every game, like like kids

72
00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800
Speaker 1: here in Western New York do. I was gonna say,

73
00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,320
Speaker 1: how much time do we have? But I know it's

74
00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,400
Speaker 1: three hours. So I mean, here's here's a I'll try

75
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,720
Speaker 1: to boil it down as as easy as I can.

76
00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,760
Speaker 1: So Tech Mobile, the original great video game for Nintendo,

77
00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,640
Speaker 1: comes out. But of course those those diehard Tech Mobile

78
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 1: Bowl fans know the Bills weren't on the original version,

79
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 1: so we got to wait till Tech Mobile too, So

80
00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,760
Speaker 1: I can't even begin to explain the excitement that I

81
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,400
Speaker 1: had when the Bills are part of tech Mobil too,

82
00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,280
Speaker 1: because I spent an ungodly amount of time playing that game.

83
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680
Speaker 1: But watching games, I mean, look, Steve, it's obviously the

84
00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,880
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. It's it's the elation and the heartbreak

85
00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,880
Speaker 1: of those four games. Fifty one three over the Raiders,

86
00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 1: of course, is one of the classic games that I'll

87
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,520
Speaker 1: never forget. It's it's some amazing Monday night football memories.

88
00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,120
Speaker 1: It's the playoff runs that that we got to experience.

89
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,480
Speaker 1: Of course, so many incredible memories. I mean I've got,

90
00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,640
Speaker 1: I've got so many of my all time favorite athletes

91
00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,000
Speaker 1: are a part of those teams, yourself included. So you know,

92
00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,520
Speaker 1: we could go deep as deep as you want to

93
00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,080
Speaker 1: go and again. And you know, I'm not just someone

94
00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,520
Speaker 1: now who who roots for the team but doesn't watch.

95
00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean every Sunday, I'm Jerry rigging away to get

96
00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,960
Speaker 1: onto some redded stream illegally to watch Bills games here

97
00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,360
Speaker 1: on my TV and my basement. So I'm die hard. Yeah,

98
00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,200
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because I know that there are

99
00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,480
Speaker 1: a lot we get a story after story about people

100
00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,960
Speaker 1: who actually come every weekend from far away to be

101
00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,680
Speaker 1: at home games and that kind of thing, and you

102
00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,040
Speaker 1: hear the stories about how this kid is the only

103
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 1: kid in his school who's a fan of a different

104
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,240
Speaker 1: team than everybody else who were in the city, and

105
00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,480
Speaker 1: you kind of fall into that. Knew you also now,

106
00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean we kind of pre parallel because I'm I've

107
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,880
Speaker 1: been in broadcasting now way longer than I ever played

108
00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,480
Speaker 1: football in the NFL, and you have been. You went

109
00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,960
Speaker 1: to Ithaca College, you came out, and you started working

110
00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,960
Speaker 1: in the industry, and now you're at ESPN. You're at

111
00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,560
Speaker 1: a sports network and there ain't no sports. How was

112
00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,360
Speaker 1: that inside the halls of you know, the the you know,

113
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,520
Speaker 1: entertainment and sports programming network of the of the world.

114
00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,640
Speaker 1: To go into this pandemic when there was absolutely nothing

115
00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800
Speaker 1: to talk about, they just send everybody home. Well, how

116
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,799
Speaker 1: did that work? Basically? You know what I mean? Steve,

117
00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400
Speaker 1: and I will tell you that even with the return

118
00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,839
Speaker 1: of sports, it's still a ghost town. I mean, what

119
00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,960
Speaker 1: you have to think of is a compound or like

120
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,800
Speaker 1: a college campus, which is essentially what the layout of

121
00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,839
Speaker 1: ESPN is with about five six thousand employees. Under normal conditions,

122
00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,440
Speaker 1: I've been working there back on campus since May. Let's

123
00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,280
Speaker 1: see March, I was on the set for College Basketball.

124
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I did a sports center the day after College Basketball

125
00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080
Speaker 1: canceled everything, and then I didn't get back on campus

126
00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,400
Speaker 1: for about a month and a half. So since May

127
00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,760
Speaker 1: I've been back there. There are probably one hundred people

128
00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,400
Speaker 1: on the main campus, so you gotta again envision six

129
00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,839
Speaker 1: thousand to one hundred. It's a ghost town now. But

130
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,640
Speaker 1: that's the incredible thing about Espsteve is that and like

131
00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 1: so many other places too. But I can speak to

132
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,680
Speaker 1: this from you know, from personal experience, is we're putting

133
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,679
Speaker 1: on the same number of shows, essentially, and we're doing

134
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,880
Speaker 1: it with people editing video on their laptops in their

135
00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,320
Speaker 1: living rooms. I mean, necessity is the mother of invention,

136
00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,520
Speaker 1: and that's kind of been what it's been at ESPN.

137
00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, there are people who will

138
00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,840
Speaker 1: knock ESPN, and I'll tell you that at times maybe

139
00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 1: it's warranted, but the way this machine is operated over

140
00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,080
Speaker 1: the past couple of months is unbelievable. And now with

141
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,240
Speaker 1: the return of sports, of course there's a little bit

142
00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,920
Speaker 1: more normalcy, but it still is a different time. Like

143
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,600
Speaker 1: everybody else, people are wearing masks everywhere. You go to

144
00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040
Speaker 1: the cafeteria. You got to order your food ahead of

145
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,720
Speaker 1: time on your phone and you go there and you

146
00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,720
Speaker 1: pick it up and you're out of there. So it's

147
00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,480
Speaker 1: a totally different normal now here in August of twenty twenty.

148
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440
Speaker 1: But for the most part, when you turn on the

149
00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,720
Speaker 1: TV and you watch, things mostly look the same. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

150
00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,880
Speaker 1: Steve Task along with Kevin Connors, we're here on one

151
00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Live Today, Kevin Connor's ESPN SportsCenter anchor. He's a

152
00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 1: play by play guy. He's going to join us for

153
00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,360
Speaker 1: all three hours and help me out here carrying the

154
00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,160
Speaker 1: load during Bills training camp. ESPN. Every kid, and I've

155
00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,440
Speaker 1: met hundreds and spoken to groups, and you probably have

156
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,320
Speaker 1: to every kid wants to be on ESPN as a

157
00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,320
Speaker 1: sports reporter because most of them, you know, most of it,

158
00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720
Speaker 1: don't really have aspirations to play professional sports. But you

159
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,720
Speaker 1: see so much of it, you love it so much

160
00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,840
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of it, and broadcasting

161
00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,480
Speaker 1: is a great way. Is tell us and you can

162
00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,760
Speaker 1: be honest, Nobody, nobody I'll ever know. Is it the dream?

163
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,760
Speaker 1: Is it the dream job you always thought it would be?

164
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,959
Speaker 1: You've been in broadcasting a long time before you ever

165
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,480
Speaker 1: got to ESPN, and certainly you've been at ESPN now

166
00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,439
Speaker 1: for since what two thousand and five, two thousand and seven,

167
00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,560
Speaker 1: something like that. What you know, is it the dream

168
00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,720
Speaker 1: job you always dreamed it would be? And what do

169
00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 1: you tell young people about their aspirations. I'm going to

170
00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,520
Speaker 1: correct you on one thing. Most of us dream of

171
00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,920
Speaker 1: being a pro athlete, but most of us don't have

172
00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,400
Speaker 1: the skill and ability and work ethic that Steve Tasker

173
00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,320
Speaker 1: and so many others have you had. So the fallback

174
00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,360
Speaker 1: plan is what can I do? Because I'm so passionate

175
00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640
Speaker 1: about sports? What can I do and make a living

176
00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,400
Speaker 1: out of it? And it was broadcasting. And it's a

177
00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880
Speaker 1: great question, Steve, because you know, growing up, for me

178
00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,200
Speaker 1: in many ways, the dream was could I do what

179
00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,679
Speaker 1: Marv Albert does, which at the time for me as

180
00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,599
Speaker 1: a kid growing up on Long Island and getting the

181
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 1: New York City stations, was Marv would do the six

182
00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,080
Speaker 1: pm local news at WNBC. He does three minute pop.

183
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,240
Speaker 1: Sue Simmons, Chuck Scarborough and Al Roker are the rest

184
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,160
Speaker 1: of the news team there, and they're tossing it to

185
00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,880
Speaker 1: Marv and he does US three minutes, and then Marv

186
00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,240
Speaker 1: gets over to Madison Square Garden Steve and he's calling

187
00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,240
Speaker 1: a Knix Or Arrangers game. And then he's back at

188
00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,000
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock and he's doing the news, and I'm thinking,

189
00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,640
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you can make a living out of this.

190
00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,359
Speaker 1: This is the most incredible thing. How this so ultimately

191
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,960
Speaker 1: I get the opportunity. And I did play high school basketball,

192
00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440
Speaker 1: played at the Division three level in college, but I

193
00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200
Speaker 1: was looking for an opportunity where I could play but

194
00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 1: also study broadcasting, and Ithaca provided me that. And and

195
00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,720
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, when I was in college,

196
00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240
Speaker 1: the dream was to get to a local TV market.

197
00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080
Speaker 1: It was to it was to get to New York City. Boy,

198
00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,880
Speaker 1: if you could ever do that, you will have made it.

199
00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 1: ESPN was always there, but it was it was it

200
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,480
Speaker 1: was almost unattainable, like are there's so few jobs at

201
00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,559
Speaker 1: that place, it's a needle in a haystack that that's

202
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,480
Speaker 1: a long shot. But then you get into the industry.

203
00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,120
Speaker 1: And I had some very trying times early on in

204
00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,720
Speaker 1: my career. In many ways, like yourself, you believe in

205
00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 1: your abilities and you work hard, and ultimately you get

206
00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,400
Speaker 1: to New York City, which is what I did at

207
00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,360
Speaker 1: that point, and then all of a sudden it was now,

208
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,880
Speaker 1: maybe this is possible. So, in a long winded way,

209
00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,839
Speaker 1: I didn't start out thinking ESPN is where I want

210
00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,199
Speaker 1: to get. Once I got into the industry, it kind

211
00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,000
Speaker 1: of worked out that way, And I will tell you

212
00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,400
Speaker 1: it's not without its trying times. It's a competitive place.

213
00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes decisions are made that aren't the most popular. But

214
00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,600
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, if you love sports and

215
00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,360
Speaker 1: you have a passion to be in front of the

216
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,200
Speaker 1: camera and talk about them and do journalism but also

217
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,760
Speaker 1: have fun, there is no better place on the planet

218
00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,720
Speaker 1: than ESPN. Kevin Connor's ESPN. He joins us as co

219
00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,439
Speaker 1: host today for the full three hours noon to three

220
00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live. Where you're day eight of

221
00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,040
Speaker 1: training camp. And you've observed this NFL thing and how

222
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,000
Speaker 1: they've kind of benefited from the timing of the pandemic.

223
00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,240
Speaker 1: They've had what's now eight months, almost nine months before

224
00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,840
Speaker 1: they have to play a game, and they saw, they

225
00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,880
Speaker 1: saw how hockey handled it, they saw how the NBA

226
00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000
Speaker 1: handled it, Major League Baseball, they've got a chance to

227
00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,439
Speaker 1: wait and see. Now we're in day eight of training

228
00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,640
Speaker 1: camp technically day eight of training camp. And even with

229
00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 1: the rash of false positives that happened over the weekend

230
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,680
Speaker 1: and then and the snapfoo and the big scare that

231
00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,720
Speaker 1: it gave everybody, this day, one week one, September thirteen

232
00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,240
Speaker 1: is gonna kick off as normal. What have been your

233
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,440
Speaker 1: observations of the league so far? As we get closer

234
00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,000
Speaker 1: and closer to opening day. It's so funny you asked that.

235
00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, we did Sports Center on Sunday night with

236
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,920
Speaker 1: John Butcher Gross and I was looking for a line

237
00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,719
Speaker 1: to get into something I can't remember what it was,

238
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,320
Speaker 1: and I looked at it. I said, wait a minute,

239
00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, football starts in less than three weeks.

240
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,199
Speaker 1: We're playing games in less than three weeks. It's kind

241
00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 1: of been amazing because, you know, again, at first, you

242
00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,880
Speaker 1: go from oh my god, we don't have anything, to

243
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,400
Speaker 1: how much Netflix can you watch? To the floodgates open, right,

244
00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,600
Speaker 1: everything comes back. You've got the NBA and the WNBA,

245
00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,079
Speaker 1: and you've got the NHL and Major League Baseball, and

246
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,120
Speaker 1: it's all kind of coming back, and you're, you know, really,

247
00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800
Speaker 1: now what do I keep my eye on? And then oh,

248
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,320
Speaker 1: by the way, this locomotive just keeps coming down the tracks, right,

249
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Roger Goodell says the NFL Draft is going

250
00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,960
Speaker 1: to happen. Boom it happens. You know, free agency, you know,

251
00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,040
Speaker 1: boom they happen. So the fact that it's almost here

252
00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760
Speaker 1: now is is pretty remarkable. I think it's been. And look,

253
00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,280
Speaker 1: we're living in essentially unprecedented times and and I still

254
00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that people have their arms around what

255
00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,680
Speaker 1: exactly is happening on a global scale. So for professional sports,

256
00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,000
Speaker 1: steve as you know, to figure out a way to

257
00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,839
Speaker 1: get back and to have relatively few bumps in the road,

258
00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,000
Speaker 1: it's been just incredible to watch. The NBA has been amazing,

259
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600
Speaker 1: The NHL, of course, has been great. Baseball has had

260
00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,560
Speaker 1: a couple of hiccups along the way, but that's a

261
00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a different animal, not being in a bubble.

262
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: So I think we can expect that the NFL might

263
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,679
Speaker 1: have some hiccups. But the fact that, like you said,

264
00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160
Speaker 1: three weeks away and games are going to be played,

265
00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,880
Speaker 1: it is pretty incredible to me. And it's it's been

266
00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,200
Speaker 1: tremendous to watch. Yeah, I think so too. It's been

267
00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,480
Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch the league chug along even

268
00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,840
Speaker 1: though they did. You know, the draft was different, free

269
00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000
Speaker 1: agency was a little different, all of that stuff, it

270
00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,679
Speaker 1: still happened. I mean, the NFL. You don't just pause

271
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,840
Speaker 1: a twenty seven billion dollar industry, you know they did.

272
00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,800
Speaker 1: They're going to keep it rolling. And you know, for

273
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160
Speaker 1: those of you out there listening, Kevin Connor's a ESPN

274
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,400
Speaker 1: is my COEs today on one of those lives. Now,

275
00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,240
Speaker 1: Kevin and I have never I don't know that we've

276
00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,520
Speaker 1: ever met in person. We've never met, right, So we're

277
00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,760
Speaker 1: we're sitting here watching it and people on MSG you know,

278
00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,319
Speaker 1: you're you're seeing Kevin and his Jim Kelly jersey. You

279
00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,320
Speaker 1: gotta love it. So we do have that in common.

280
00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,000
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's our second favorite player, me of course being

281
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680
Speaker 1: our first favorite player. I'm just gonna make that. I'm

282
00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,520
Speaker 1: just gonna make that generalization. But we also you've been

283
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,880
Speaker 1: in broadcast. You are a college athlete as well, Ithaca

284
00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,280
Speaker 1: College here in western New York. Um, I have ties

285
00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,600
Speaker 1: to Ithaca to one of my son went to Cornell

286
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,360
Speaker 1: and my daughter in law went to Ithaca College. So

287
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,400
Speaker 1: and um, so I know Ithaca really well. You great

288
00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,080
Speaker 1: country man, it's just awesome. We enjoyed going down to

289
00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,560
Speaker 1: Ithaca with during that time. So I was gonna ask you.

290
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,360
Speaker 1: So I've asked you all these questions. Is there anything

291
00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,520
Speaker 1: you want to ask me? But since we're since we're

292
00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,560
Speaker 1: best buds now for for the at least for today,

293
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,160
Speaker 1: until until I make you angry? Um, any what can

294
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,960
Speaker 1: I What do you want to know about me? That

295
00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,280
Speaker 1: I could tell you that you've you know, maybe not

296
00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,440
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, but now have the opportunity. Well, see,

297
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,400
Speaker 1: so so you know, for me, obviously, I'm so aware

298
00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,160
Speaker 1: of you as both a broadcaster, what twenty years at CBS,

299
00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,840
Speaker 1: but then of course you're you're what I considered to

300
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,400
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame career. I don't know that

301
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,840
Speaker 1: I've heard the path that you took properly explained, and

302
00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,840
Speaker 1: and you know what, for the benefit of our audience,

303
00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what, the draft is seven rounds long right now? Right,

304
00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,560
Speaker 1: So when Steve Taskers coming out of college, he's not

305
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,640
Speaker 1: even drafted here in under the current conditions, you're you're

306
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 1: a ninth round pick, right, I mean, help me understand

307
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,240
Speaker 1: what your aspirations were following your senior season of college. Well,

308
00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, you're it's a good question. I

309
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker 1: was playing Northwestern University in Chicago, and Dennis Greene was

310
00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,160
Speaker 1: my college coach, rest his soul and I was owned.

311
00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240
Speaker 1: It was, you know, college was different. It was in

312
00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,960
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. I had some injury issues in college

313
00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,000
Speaker 1: and so I was relegated. Really, I was playing special

314
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,640
Speaker 1: teams in college, returning kicks and covering hicks, much like

315
00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,520
Speaker 1: I did in the NFL. And so when the about

316
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,240
Speaker 1: a year I was a fifth year, I was, I

317
00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720
Speaker 1: read shirted my real senior season because I had a

318
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,040
Speaker 1: little back issue and then my real seatment. So after

319
00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,960
Speaker 1: that senior season, I ran for pro scouts, but I

320
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,760
Speaker 1: still had another year of eligibility and I wanted to

321
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,280
Speaker 1: come back and play, and they were gonna let me

322
00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,520
Speaker 1: do it. So I did that. And this right after

323
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,960
Speaker 1: my red shirted season. The pro scouts said, you know,

324
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 1: you're you know, we'll be interested in looking at you

325
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,520
Speaker 1: next year. You know, we'll see how you test out

326
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,120
Speaker 1: and all that. So, and it was there was no

327
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,200
Speaker 1: combine then, actually there was. It was a combine. That

328
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,920
Speaker 1: was his first year was my senior year that I

329
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,680
Speaker 1: read shirted. Then the second year of the Combine was

330
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120
Speaker 1: my senior year, so that's how long ago it was.

331
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800
Speaker 1: So scout, I'd get a call like on a I

332
00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't even get a call like yeah, I would. I

333
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,720
Speaker 1: get a call and they'd say, hey, listen, the scout

334
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,160
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati is coming, or the scout from Bledsoe Scouting

335
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360
Speaker 1: Services coming. He's gonna be here a day after tomorrow.

336
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,080
Speaker 1: Can you be at the field house at such and

337
00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,040
Speaker 1: such a time. So that's how I got scouted. I

338
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't get invited to the combine or anything like that.

339
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,280
Speaker 1: And then I started the thing about it was when

340
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,600
Speaker 1: they tested me physically. My numbers were pretty good. I

341
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,760
Speaker 1: was really strong. I could bench a ton, I could

342
00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,120
Speaker 1: run a good forty and I could jump and so

343
00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,879
Speaker 1: my numbers on a draft sheet looked favorable to a

344
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of guys that got drafted. But I played at Northwestern.

345
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,640
Speaker 1: I was just a kick return. I didn't have any

346
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,199
Speaker 1: film that you could really watch, and nobody saw me

347
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,159
Speaker 1: in person, really, because if they saw me in person,

348
00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720
Speaker 1: they'd be like, no, you're not gonna get you know,

349
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,840
Speaker 1: because I looked ten years old, right, so I you know,

350
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,720
Speaker 1: and certainly so the team that drafted me was the

351
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,920
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers now the Tennessee Titans, but the Oilers, they

352
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 1: had their whole entire staff was Hugh Campbell and their

353
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,480
Speaker 1: entire staff, and most of those guys, a lot of

354
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 1: those guys had spent a lot of time in the

355
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,040
Speaker 1: Canadian Football League. In the Canadian Football League, there's a

356
00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,280
Speaker 1: lot of guys that looked like me, so they weren't.

357
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: They were like, you know, they didn't, I didn't. I

358
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,639
Speaker 1: passed their eye test, right, So when they looked at me,

359
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it looks okay. Right. When a

360
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,600
Speaker 1: lot of other teams looked at me, they were like

361
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 1: a little teeny guy. No, he's no, he can't. He's

362
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 1: not gonna play. So they drafted me. I was one

363
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,640
Speaker 1: of three wide receivers that the Oilers drafted. I went

364
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 1: in and had a nice first year. I played half

365
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,439
Speaker 1: the year. I was leading the AFC and kickoff return

366
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 1: average and stuff. Got my knee hurt about eight games

367
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 1: into the season and missed the rest of the season.

368
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Came back. This is Warren Moon. Yeah, Warren Moon. Jerry

369
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,199
Speaker 1: Glanville was a defensive coordinator and then at the end

370
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,920
Speaker 1: of my rookie season he became the interim head coach,

371
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 1: and then they gave him the real job in the offseason.

372
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,879
Speaker 1: He liked me, and I got a thousand stories about Jerry,

373
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 1: the last of which is he coached my son in

374
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: the CFL. To you yet last year two years ago

375
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 1: as if he was a defensive coordinator the Hamlton tiger Cats,

376
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 1: and I saw him up there as a great to

377
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 1: see him. So anyway, so Jerry brings me back for

378
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 1: my second year and I'm returning. I got nicked up

379
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: early in the season, was out for six or seven weeks.

380
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 1: They needed me to be active, and they put me

381
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 1: over procedural waivers, which means they waived me for twenty

382
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: four hours and brought me back off waivers. And during

383
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 1: that time. The procedural waivers is a gentleman's agreement. Back then,

384
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 1: everything was different, obviously, and if you'd put me over

385
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 1: a certain waiver wire, it meant they were going to

386
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,000
Speaker 1: activate you. And it was a signal to other thirty

387
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 1: one or well at that time, the other twenty seven

388
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: teams not to touch him. We need the guy to

389
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: play Sunday. Don't take him because even though he's a

390
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: free agent, he's not a free agent he's ours right. Well,

391
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 1: Marv Levy had just gotten the job in Buffalo, and

392
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: they need they wanted to get better. One of the

393
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: coaches from my rookie year had moved to his staff,

394
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: was then Hank Bullet staff. So he ran down the

395
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: hallway to Marv and said, Hey, this Caskerk had I

396
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: coached him last year. He can play special teams. He's good,

397
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 1: you can And Marv said pick him up. And so

398
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 1: the next weekend Marv Levy's very first game as head

399
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: coach of the Buffalo Bills. I was the first new

400
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: player they signed by Bill Polian signed and I was

401
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: my first game as a Bill was Marv Levy's first

402
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 1: game as a billow and later and eleven and a

403
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: half years later, my last game of as a Bill

404
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 1: was Marv Levy's last game, except I got thrown out

405
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: of my last game. That's an unbeloved So you never

406
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 1: played an NFL game with the Bills with any other

407
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 1: head coach. Nope, it was me, and it was me

408
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: and ma and I teased Marv because he couldn't go

409
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: on without me. I retired and then two months later

410
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 1: he called it quits. He couldn't go on so so,

411
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: so I'm fascinated by because you're talking about Northwestern, but

412
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: you're you spend two years at a community college. So yeah,

413
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: so you're you're a kid from Kansas, right western Kansas,

414
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: rural Kansas, Western Kansas. So you're so when does Steve

415
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: Tasker believe he can play in the NFL. I'll tell

416
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: you why. I got through my first training camp and

417
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: it was a final cutdown. It was like it was

418
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: a big deal then because you didn't know, you know,

419
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys in training camp. They

420
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,239
Speaker 1: didn't have a limit. I think they might have had

421
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: a ninety five guy limit or something in training camp

422
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: by that time. And I was living in a hotel

423
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: in Houston for the Oilers and it was cut down day,

424
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, you can signed to sit

425
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: by your phone and waiting for him to tell you

426
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: to show up with your playbook. I was one of

427
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: three wide receivers they drafted in that in that draft

428
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: and and I finally, let's listen. I called the office

429
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: and I said and some secretary, nameless secretary. I said, Hi,

430
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: I'm the Steve task I was warned to do I

431
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: need to show up over there. Come over there and

432
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: I'm and she goes and she goes, why what are

433
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: you talking about? I said, well, I should I look

434
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: for a place to live and she and I said, I,

435
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, do they need to Are they gonna release

436
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: me or what? And and this secretary goes, oh, no,

437
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: I saw the list. Yer, Okay, Steve, you can go

438
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: get an apartment. That's when I thought I could play

439
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL, right when the secretary told me that

440
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: I made a list. That's how I knew I had

441
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: because it's just even though I was playing and I was,

442
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was competing with these guys. But man,

443
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: oh man, how do you how do you project yourself

444
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: into saying, yeah, I belong here when you got Warren

445
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: Moon and Greg Bingham and Avon Riley and Bruce Matthews

446
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: and Mike Munchaker on that team, Harvey Sale, you got

447
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: some guy Micro'sier. You know, you got some guys out there,

448
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't believe it until they told me

449
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: i'd made it. I really didn't. I really didn't. So

450
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: you make the oilers and then you transition to the bills.

451
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, I can hijack the show and

452
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: we can do this, we can do this Q and

453
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: A with Steve all day rights, I'm concerned, right, I

454
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: can't get enough of this. So so at some point,

455
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: not only do you know you can play in the NFL,

456
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: but you're a valuable commodity in the NFL. And what

457
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the most as

458
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: a fan. Maybe it's different when you're on the inside.

459
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: One of the most charming aspects of those Bills teams

460
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: is that there are so many stars on the team.

461
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: And how in the heck Bill Polian fits everyone under

462
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 1: the salary cap and keeps everyone you know, keeps all

463
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: these these mouths full, is incredible. But at some point

464
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: you realize you're worth as a player, Steve. And so

465
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: what prevents you from saying this is great and I'm

466
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: a part of something special, but I could I'm Steve

467
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Tasker behind Andre Reid and James Lofton, etc. Etc. What

468
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: keeps you in Buffalo? What prevents you from going to

469
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: the Jets or the Browns or the back to the

470
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: Oilers and becoming the guy that's interesting you asked that

471
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: I was, and that that was a common question even

472
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: back then. It's like, you know, are you bummed that

473
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: you're just playing spe and I was like, no, I

474
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I like the ability to contribute. I want to play.

475
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: And I'm I knew I was sitting behind James Lofton

476
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: and Andre Reid, who ultimately are both in the Hall

477
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: of Fame. Obviously, it's hard. Who are you going to

478
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: sit down? You know, I mean somebody. You can't just

479
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: put me in and not take somebody off the field.

480
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: And it was. It was a great roster. I loved

481
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: being on the team. My wife and I love Buffalo

482
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: and there and to be fair, I came here in

483
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: November of nineteen eighty six and there was not free

484
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: agency or at least Plan B even until ninety one

485
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: or ninety two, so I was going to nowhere anyway.

486
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: And my first year, after I finished my first full

487
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: year after eighty seven, my contract was up, and that

488
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: happened to be right after a Pro Bowl season. So

489
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: Bill Polian gave me a kiss, you know, financial kiss there.

490
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: So I got a nice bump in pay. So I

491
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: wasn't going anywhere for a while. And Bill, and I

492
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: know he got in trouble from Ralph for this, but

493
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: he laced my contract with a lot of incentives and

494
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I said, listen, it's hard to quantify my incentives. How

495
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: are you gonna what are you gonna compare me to

496
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: as a special teams player? You don't nobody even keeps

497
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: track of statistics, even right, How are you gonna do

498
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: that night? So what we did, asked him, is, how

499
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: about this. If I play every play they want me

500
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: to play, whether it's kickoff, kickoff return, punp punt return,

501
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: and the team wins so many games, that's my incentive.

502
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: If the team does well, I do well. And he

503
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: said great. So I got money for the team winning

504
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: eight games, ten games, twelve games, fourteen? It right? And

505
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: they and I got it. If we won eight, I

506
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: got that bonus, we won ten, I got another bone

507
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of say. So it added on.

508
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: So we go twelve and four in eighty eight, and

509
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm rich, right, I mean I've got more you know,

510
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: I've got more money. And I didn't. I didn't. And

511
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: and about you know, March or February, February or March,

512
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Bill Pollian's phone rings and it's Ralph saying, what did

513
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: tasker do? Right? So that contract lat was great, you know,

514
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: so it got me through a couple of years and

515
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: then you know when we and then the next contract,

516
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: which I don't know when it was Bill. Bill's like

517
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: giving me the Yeah, he ain't getting at again. You

518
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: know I've done. I'm done getting beat over the head

519
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: with a club by Ralph over the money, you know. So,

520
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: but I was never I love the team. I love

521
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: the guys, and I will say this, it's not for

522
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: nothing I did make. There was once, at least once

523
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: in my career where I did choose Buffalo over going

524
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: somewhere else. So it wasn't like a yearly, every time thing.

525
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I grew up in Kansas, like you said,

526
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and I was a big, huge Chiefs fan. Marty Schottenheimer

527
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: was there. I'd played for him in a Pro Bowl.

528
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: His brother Kurt was running their special teams. They had

529
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: called me and asked me if I, you know, if

530
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I would consider coming to play for him, and and

531
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: ultimately I just couldn't do it. You know, I just

532
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: wanted to stay here. Might we have you know, we

533
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: were having children here in Buffalo. We were Buffalo people

534
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: from that point and we still are. So it's thirty three,

535
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: thirty four plus years later, and you know, we just

536
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: found a home and we didn't want to leave. And

537
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: it's not like I listened. I didn't sacrifice anything by

538
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: staying here, so don't I'm no hero. So it was great.

539
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: So I I just my wife and I were smart

540
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: enough to be happy in a place that was treating

541
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: us extremely well, and went on a lot of games.

542
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: It was fun. So that was that was my time here.

543
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: And you know, Stephen, and you know one thing again

544
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: as someone who has never lived in Buffalo, but as

545
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: we've obviously discussed as a huge fan, that's one of

546
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: the best parts of the story of the Buffalo Bills

547
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: is that so many people who would never have thought

548
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: of living in Buffalo come there and they are embraced

549
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: by the community, and in turn, they embrace the community.

550
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: And so many guys live in the area now right

551
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: and like our our a fabric of the community. I

552
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: mean to me, that's maybe it's true of other places.

553
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know of a ton of guys who settle

554
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: in Green Bay when their playing career is done. To me,

555
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the best parts of being a Bills

556
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: fan and rooting for guys who look who become, who

557
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: become people who you respect and admire and cheer four.

558
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: So it's the rooting for people, for me, anyway continues

559
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: beyond what you're able to do on the football field.

560
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's it's really neat.

561
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: By the way, I can keep going here asking you questions.

562
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: You can tell me. We got a break. We're almost

563
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: about radio break. First of all, we're gonna give out

564
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: it we've got every day here, Kevin. We're gonna have

565
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: a question that we're gonna ask our viewers to answer,

566
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put it out on Twitter and Today's question,

567
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to your You're gonna let you

568
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: answer the question right after this break, and you can

569
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: think about it during the break. What does Josh Allen

570
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: need to do to silence the critics in twenty twenty

571
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: we've noticed here in Buffalo and maybe you have two

572
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been a real polarizing figure since he

573
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: was drafted. He's got this high end athletic ability, but

574
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: his statistics don't measure up to the gifts that he

575
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: physically brings to the table. And no matter how many

576
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: games they win, Josh is always going to be a

577
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: polarizing figure. So we here in Buffalo are kind of

578
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: sensitive to it. We're gonna ask, you know, we asked

579
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: our listeners what he's gonna have to do to silence

580
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: the critics. We'll get to your questions, your answer to that, Kevin.

581
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: After this break, at one o'clock, we've got the NFL

582
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: Networks Kim Jones coming to join us. She's been in

583
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: town for a couple of days watching Bill's practice, doing

584
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: some stuff for NFL Network here in Buffalo. We're gonna

585
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: have her on at one o'clock. The tweet sheets coming up.

586
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: After the break. Kevin Connor Steve Task on One Bills Live.

587
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: We're broadcasting from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Studio, nothing comes close.

588
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

589
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Steve Task along with my

590
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: co host Kevin Connors of ESPN, here for the full

591
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: three hours of One Bills Drive the Bills Day eight

592
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: of training camp happening even as we speak. In fact,

593
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: just before we came on the air, I could hear

594
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: the soundtrack, the music thumping on the other side of

595
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: the wall as those guys are out on the grass

596
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: fields practicing. Kevin I just before we went to break,

597
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: I asked you, I put the Twitter question out there

598
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: to you, and before we get to your answer of

599
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen needs to do to silence the critics

600
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, we've got a call on the line

601
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: from Nick Online. One go ahead, Nick, You're with Steve

602
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: Tasker Kevin Connors. What's your question? Hi, guys, Hi, I

603
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: love the show, big longtime fan, grew up in the nineties,

604
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: loving the nineties. Bill awesome. Please the team, the team

605
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: itself doesn't really have to do much with put they

606
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: gather a winner. Josh Allen, honestly, all he has to do.

607
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: He's proved everything he needed to do in the last

608
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: two years. He just needs to win a division or

609
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: win a playoff game. Here for what if it What

610
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: if it comes out Nick and he looks like a

611
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: game manager, you know what I mean? What if he

612
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, like thank you Andy Dalton or somebody.

613
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Not that Andy Dalton's a bad example, but he's a

614
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: great dude. But you know he was one and done

615
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs a lot. What if what if the

616
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: team wins and goes deep in the playoffs and Josh

617
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: doesn't play all that well, or doesn't carry the team,

618
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: or isn't you know, isn't big, or maybe he's perceived

619
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: as the reason they lose the championship game. Well knocked

620
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: his wall in the past, but Jim Kelly never really

621
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: made that many good decisions on the field early in

622
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: his career either in Buffalore. Yeah, that's true. We're throwing

623
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot of picks. He This team that we have

624
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: built looks so much like a mirror image to you

625
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: guys in the nineties that all he really needs to

626
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: do is go be himself. Let the ball rip. He's

627
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: got the weapons, they can do it. Then they can

628
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: succeed on the field. So if he does, so what

629
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I and and I'll ask Kevin to

630
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: chime in on this too. So you're telling me, if

631
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has statistically like the same numbers he had

632
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: this last year, and the team wins two more games

633
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: at the end, wins it wins a division round or

634
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: a wildcard round, and then a division round, you're saying

635
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: that nobody will ever criticize Josh again. I just I

636
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: think there's always gonna be critics, but they're gonna be silent.

637
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: If he actually just wins the playoff game, they'll look

638
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: at Lamar last year. He got so many different statistical records.

639
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: They're they're running numbers two brs. If Josh runs out

640
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: with like a ninety five two BR at the end

641
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: of the season and her leads with like two or

642
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: three statistical categories, maybe even just yards, they'll start to

643
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: shut off a little bit more. They'll start giving them

644
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: his respect. I get you. There's always gonna be critics, Kevin,

645
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: what do you think which Steve I you know, Listen,

646
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm a diehard Bills fan. Unapologetic doesn't mean I'm entirely

647
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: a cheerleader, though I can be one. I it's amusing

648
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: to me how much this guy is not. Like, what

649
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: the hell is Baker Mayfield done and his NFL career?

650
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: What has what has Sam Darnold done in his NFL career?

651
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: There's always there's always a yeah. But with Josh Allen right,

652
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: and by the way, he is a work in progress.

653
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that this is a finished product.

654
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Bill's won ten games last year, and you could say

655
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: could have, should have, would have. But we're leading a

656
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: playoff game that quite honestly, we probably should have won.

657
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Does Josh need to get better? There's no question. Is

658
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: ball management an issue, you know, protecting the football, fumbling

659
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: the football, making the throws that we see him make

660
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: sometimes that we all want to pull our hair. There's

661
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: no question those are things he's got to get better at.

662
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Guy's been in a league for two years, So this

663
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: this feeling that he has to come into the league

664
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: as an unpolished player out of a Nonpower five school

665
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: and immediately be Peyton Manning, who, by the way, wasn't

666
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: even Peyton Manning early in his career. I don't understand it.

667
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: The Bills won ten games last year, and I recognize

668
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: we've got a great defense, and I recognize that things

669
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: went our way, But I always bristle at the yeah,

670
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: but things when the results are there. Ten wins in

671
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: the NFL is ten wins. Does he have to make

672
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: progress this year, There's no question about it. Does he

673
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: have to keep Stefan Diggs full? Do you have to

674
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: work with a compliment of receivers and raise the bar?

675
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: There's no question. But let's see it happened first before

676
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: we start saying he's not the guy. That's my thing, right, Nick,

677
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: what are you the anything else you got? All right?

678
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Nick's gone? Thanks. I appreciate the call, Nick, that's that's nice.

679
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Kevin, And that's something that

680
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: the caller actually said that I hadn't. I forget about you.

681
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: No matter how good you play, is always going to

682
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: be Lamar Jackson had critics last year, right, and he's

683
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: the MVP. Pat Mahomes. Now, Pat Mahomes is kind of

684
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: a golden child. He won the Super Bowl. It's kind

685
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: of hard to criticize him. Served All of those critics

686
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: are gonna be sitting down and shutting up pretty quick.

687
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: When you win the Super Bowl, it's, you know, all

688
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: you have to say is hey, scoreboard, you know, and

689
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: and it goes away. Very few guys in the National

690
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Football League have zero critics. I kind of forget about

691
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: that sometimes because we tend to, you know, stick up

692
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: for our bills guys, you know, all the time. And

693
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: it was a long time. It was a long drought

694
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: before Sean McDermott came in. But two playoff runs in

695
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: the last three years, and this roster that they've accumulated,

696
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: the culture that they've put together, and the continuity and

697
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: the number of things that the confluence of events Kevin

698
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: that have come together this season all point towards the

699
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Bills really having no excuses. They look good. They got

700
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: their quarterback of the current day and the future. They

701
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: got a defense that was all that was elite last year,

702
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: top three defense in the National Football League last year.

703
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: They've got their financially stable. Their salarycap is in line.

704
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: They've got room to spend free agency whatever they want

705
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: in the coming years. In the foreseeable future, their head

706
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: coach and coordinators are intact from the last three years.

707
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: They're starting to grow as a team. They got a

708
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: shiny new toy in Stefan Diggs, I mean, and their

709
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: greatest rivalry in the division lost a Hall of Fame

710
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: player to an NFC team, and their defense lost four

711
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: of their starters from the number one defense in the

712
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: last year. The Patriots lost a bunch of starters. They

713
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: had some key players opt out, so their number one rival,

714
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: who is on scheduled, you know, for the last twenty

715
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: years to go on and win the division again, seems

716
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: to be derailed, even with the signing of Cam Newton.

717
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: So all this confluence of events has got you thinking

718
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: this is the Bill's year, and so it is really

719
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: difficult to sit here on you know, on August twenty fifth,

720
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: day eight to training camp and not feel really good

721
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: about where you're not only your team and your organization,

722
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: but where they're headed this season. And that includes the

723
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: quarterback who took a big step last year. I mean,

724
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: it's this has been the easiest show to do for

725
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: the last six months talking about a team that up

726
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: until this point, with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, has

727
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: done absolutely everything right well and and Steve just to

728
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: just to prove the point that I'm making, and you

729
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: hit everything on the head. Look, the bottom line is

730
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Josh has got to win football games this year, right,

731
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean you know, yes, he can't be the guy

732
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: that turns it over. And we can't go backwards now,

733
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: I said when I joined you on the show as

734
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: a guest a couple of weeks ago. Anything short of

735
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: winning the division, in my mind, is a disappointment because

736
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: of the way that we're set up, because of all

737
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: the things you just said about New England, Miami is

738
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: going to be improved. I think the Jets are gonna stink.

739
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: But anything shy of winning the division, in my mind,

740
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: is a disappointment. But again I want to point out

741
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: that the Bills won ten games last year and Josh

742
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: was a big are to that. You can you can

743
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: talk about the defense all you want, and you know,

744
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, was John Brown a borderline Pro Bowl player

745
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: before he joined the Bill I'm not sure he was.

746
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: I think John Brown was a good player. I think

747
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: Josh Brown had a good year last year. I mean,

748
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: do we credit Josh Allen for that at all? I mean,

749
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, Cole Beasley obviously was a weapon in Dallas.

750
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: I think Cole Beasley was the best Cole Beasley that

751
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: we've seen in the NFL last year. At point, yeah,

752
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, you know, we can say, yeah,

753
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: but they they they're winning despite Josh Allen. But at

754
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: some point he deserves credit. But I will be the

755
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: very first one, Steve to tell you if we take

756
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: a step back this year and it's because of him,

757
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: he deserves the criticism. But right now, as a second

758
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: year guy, he took us to the playoffs. That's more

759
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: than anyone else in that draft class is done. Shawn

760
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: Watson won ten games last year. Why why are we

761
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: not talking about Josh in the same conversation that we

762
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: are about the Sean. That's all I'll ask you. Yeah,

763
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: it's a good question, and it's a good point too.

764
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: You look at the guys he's played with. His team

765
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: has been more successful over the three years of his

766
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: career than the other guys. Let's take one more call

767
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: from Tim and Tim in north Tonawanda. Tim, you're on

768
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: with Steve and Kevin. What's on your mind. The biggest thing.

769
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: I think they needed receivers that will hang out of

770
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: the ball more. We had the worst catch reception rate

771
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: in the league. That's why I mc dermot keeps talking about,

772
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, having receivers that will hold one of the

773
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: ball and it matters. Yeah, it's a good point. We

774
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: did know a lot. Yeah, I think you're right, Tim

775
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: or there's no question the Bills dropped too many balls

776
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: last year. And I'm and I know this too that

777
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: you know, in the social media world we live in, Kevin,

778
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: you always hear people, Yeah they were dropping the ball

779
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: because Josh was throwing at six feet out of their

780
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: way and they could barely reach it. That's not all

781
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: the case. You go back and look at the drops

782
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: they had there was times when they were nonchalanting it,

783
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, and you get that from like Dawson Knox

784
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: has taking some criticism because he's kind of the the

785
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: poster boy for the Bills drops last season, but they

786
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: all contributed to it. Devin Singletary dropped his share of

787
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: passes last year. That's kind of stuff that rookies tend

788
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: to do when they're trying to press a little bit

789
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: and try too hard to help their team, no question,

790
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: and he's got a point. The Bills dropped too many

791
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: passes last year, but no, this they can look at

792
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: those numbers and and do the math, just like weekend.

793
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: And that's one thing that is as a former wide

794
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL, that's an easy thing to fix.

795
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: It's an easy thing to fix. You just get to

796
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: the jugs machine and don't leave. You just stay there

797
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: and catch a couple hundred balls a day and lo

798
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: and behold, you get better at catching it. It's it's

799
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: pretty simple. Yeah, that's yeah. I appreciate the call to him.

800
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Mark and Tona want to hold on. We're

801
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: gonna go take a break and come back and take

802
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: your call after the break. Marking Tonawanda. We'll get to

803
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: you in a minute. Steve Tasker, Kevin Connors here on

804
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. What does Josh Allen need to do

805
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: to silence the critics in twenty twenty? Also at the

806
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: top of the hour, Kim Jones of it hell Network

807
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: joining One Bills Live, presented by Kalidah Health on Buffalo

808
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve task

809
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: along with Kevin Connors of ESPN joining me as co

810
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: host today for all three hours. We're here till three o'clock.

811
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: At one o'clock coming up, just after this little segment here,

812
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Kim Jones of NFL Network coming up.

813
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: She's spent the last couple of days here in Buffalo

814
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: doing some work around the Buffalo Bills, watching a little

815
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: bit of practice, and we're gonna get her thoughts on

816
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: that as well. We've been talking to you, our listeners

817
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: about what Josh Allen needs to do to silence the

818
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: critics in twenty twenty. So let's take one more call,

819
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: Mark in Tonawanda online too. I guess go ahead, Mark

820
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: here on with Steve and Kevin. What's on your mind?

821
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: How are you doing guys doing great pleasure work. I

822
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: want to say, Stephen, I called, I watched football in

823
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: your Super Bowl years and you were the person that

824
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I watched most because I could rely on you getting

825
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the ball back and knocked him back for a loss

826
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: on kickoffs. And you're the top player of the Buffalo

827
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: bilsturing that time. What's Mark? You can call in anytime

828
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you want. What else you got? Go ahead, Well, it's

829
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. You're a questioning of what does Josh

830
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: have to do? Now? They brought him the kid named

831
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly that broke all the records for running shoot offense,

832
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: and your very first year they brought them back and

833
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: then they had an I formation. I think we might

834
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: might have gone six, six wins, ten launches. And that's

835
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: when Bill Polian was going through the get out of

836
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: the town face and he was on Danny Never's show

837
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: and I called him. Um, I said, I said, you

838
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: get this kid that broke all the records of running

839
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: shoot and you put him in the I formation. I said,

840
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Should you know I took Jack

841
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Nicholas and changed his swing. I'd be able to beat

842
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: him on a golf courch. So um, they just needed

843
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: to put Jim and running shooting. They came out with

844
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: the K gun next year. Now why they put them

845
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: in the eye formation, I have no idea. But now

846
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: as far as Josh, same thing. We had a sad line.

847
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: We had receivers, you know, maybe one good receiver. What

848
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: does the Bills have to do And they've done it.

849
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: They've got the offensive lines, they've got the receivers now

850
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: and I think Josh the same thing is gonna light

851
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: the light the game on fire. Well, thanks, Mark, I

852
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I get what you're saying. You're right, um, coaches,

853
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: and it's it used to be. And Kevin, you can speak.

854
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: You've been around, you know long enough to know this too.

855
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Back in the old days when I was coming through us,

856
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: particularly when I was a kid, it started to evolve

857
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: away from it that coaches. It was my way or

858
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: the highway kind of guys. You know, it's like, listen,

859
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, you're gonna play the offense we run,

860
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna do to that that. You know, We're gonna

861
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: do it this way that way, you know, And that's

862
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: all it was. But now coaches, particularly at the highest level,

863
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: at the NFL. They are all about finding out what

864
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: players they have, the players they have can do, and

865
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: coaching and putting in a system that fits those guys.

866
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: And Kevin you can speak to this and what you

867
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: with ESPN you see it and hear about it all

868
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: the time. That's the mantra. It's about getting your guys

869
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: to play their best in a system that fits them

870
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: and picking matchups against your opponent that are in your favor. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, Steve,

871
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: you're you're right, and mark a great call here, you're

872
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, listen, it's it's it's how the game has evolved, right,

873
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: It's it's it's step when you played. I'm sure it was, hey,

874
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: go run sprints. Now when that happens and when when

875
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: when the Giants coach makes the Giants go do that.

876
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: It's it's a big story, right because that doesn't happen anymore.

877
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: And look, at some point you had to go out

878
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: and get weapons. So I was in favor of the

879
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Digs trade despite the fact you give up a first

880
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: round pick. And so let's see what Josh Allen it

881
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: is again, I'm not drinking the kool aid to the

882
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: extent that he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

883
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: He's not there yet, but we got to find out

884
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: what he is. And so right now he's surrounded by,

885
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the top five receiving corps in the NFL.

886
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: You're one right that the coaching extent, you know, for

887
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: for a long time there with Tyrod, to me, it was,

888
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, we we were coaching him to what his

889
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: level of ability was. You couldn't open the playbook, as

890
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: best I could tell with Tyrod to a certain extent

891
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: because he wasn't capable of making certain throws. Let's find

892
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: out if Josh is. You know, obviously we all know

893
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: about the arm strength he's got receivers now that will

894
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: allow him to showcase his natural abilities, and right now

895
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: it is on him. There's no doubt about it. But

896
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged. But what that's the point that I'm trying

897
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: to make through two years, Steve, I'm encouraged by what

898
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: I've seen and I got to agree with you and Mark.

899
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call from Tonawanda. Appreciate it. And I

900
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: hope Bill Pollyan probably remembers you giving him the entire

901
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: idea for the k gun and implementing that so it's

902
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: amazing how people remember the past. But it's true. Jim

903
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: Kelly came into the league and Hank Buller was the

904
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: head coach of the Buffalo Bills, and they went through

905
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: an entire year or part most of a year too,

906
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: from September through November with Hank Bulle's head coach and

907
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: an eye formation and all that and Marv leave You

908
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: got the job midway through the season and finished out

909
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: that season. Came in the next offseason, hired Teddy Marcha

910
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: Broda and all that gang, and all of a sudden,

911
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: they started evolving that offense very quickly into something that

912
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: made Jim a better quarterback. I've long said and said too.

913
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: I know it's not for nothing, but one of the

914
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: one person I've always thought that deserved to be in

915
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame was ted Marcha Broda. If you

916
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: look back at hit the offensive coordinator of the K Gun,

917
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: if you look back at all the quarterbacks that he

918
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: worked with, and it goes all the way back to

919
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Sonny Jurgenson and Billy Kilmer, Burt Jones in Baltimore, Vinny Severity,

920
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. I mean, there's a long list of Jim Harbaugh,

921
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: he Ted Marcha Brod almost got the Colts to the

922
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Jim Harball as their quarterback. Teddy Marcher

923
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Brodo was an all time great quarterback coach, all time

924
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: great offensive mind, alto a really good head coach. And

925
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: I've long thought that he got overlooked. And he's the

926
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: guy that not only had the knowledge and the experience,

927
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: but also the courage and the confidence in Jim to

928
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: give him the reins of the football to the football

929
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: and let him call his own play. So there's a

930
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: lot in that call that Mark just had in Ton

931
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: of One. Is fun to hear him. And there's a

932
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of old guys out there that do remember those

933
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: days pretty well. Well, you know, Steve. I mean, think

934
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: as you're going through this, think of how far ahead

935
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: of his time, Ted Marcher Brod and others there were,

936
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: there were certainly a few others around that time, but

937
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: think of how far ahead of their time they were.

938
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Look at God, do you know Super Bowl twenty five?

939
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: How many times did the Giants run the football? Right?

940
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the game has evolved to the point today

941
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: where everyone throws the ball forty fifty times a game, right,

942
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: I mean, and and how many times do quarterbacks checked

943
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: down at the line of scrimmage or audible to their

944
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: own plays? I mean, you tell me if I'm wrong,

945
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: but that that didn't happen other than with the Bills,

946
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: and you know what, maybe Marino's Dolphins in the eighties.

947
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems to me that it's certainly throwing

948
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: the ball and putting the ball in the hands of

949
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks so to speak, didn't happen anywhere near the

950
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: way it does today. What does Josh Allen need to

951
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: do to silence the critics in twenty twenty? Give us

952
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: a call. We're taking calls today and we're also live

953
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: on the air with Kevin O'Connor of ESPN. He's a

954
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: co hosting today all the way until three o'clock. Coming

955
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: up right after the break is Kim Jones of NFL Network.

956
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: She's been watching practice for a couple of days. We'll

957
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: pick her brain about what she sees. This is One

958
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

959
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, along with

960
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Conners of ESPN, co hosting today till three o'clock.

961
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: We are talking about what Josh Allen can do to

962
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: silence the critics in twenty twenty. But we're gonna take

963
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: a break from that and go on the line with

964
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: our good friend of the program, Kim Jones, NFL Network reporter.

965
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: She has been in Buffalo for a last couple of

966
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: days watching the Bills practice. Kim, Welcome to the show,

967
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Kevin and Steve here, how are things going at What

968
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: are you thinking about the Bills training camp on day eight?

969
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: They look good to me? I mean interesting to see

970
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: how Digs is fitting in, and he's fitting in nicely.

971
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: By the way, we can't give details, as far as

972
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: I know, no team letting us give any details this

973
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: year without preseason games. You can't even say something happened

974
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: at the twenty yard line with some teams this year.

975
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: But and I understand that. But he's fitting in incredibly well,

976
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: at least as well as I would have thought. So yeah,

977
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Stefan Digg is going to be a big

978
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: playmaker for this team, provided everyone involved stays healthy. And

979
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: that's got to be good news for Josh, good news

980
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: for Sean and Brandon and the whole operation here. So really,

981
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: I was happy to see that these last couple of days, especially,

982
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: I thought today with a couple of plays in particular, well,

983
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: one thing, I gotta get to you, what do you

984
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: what did you make of the seventy seven false positives

985
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: over the weekend and and what that means for the

986
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: league going forward? It to me, the fact that they

987
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: got it straightened out so quickly kind of gives me

988
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: some even more confidence that at least the beginning of

989
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: the season is going to look pretty normal. Yeah. When

990
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: I talked to Brandon Being yesterday, you know, he called it,

991
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, a fire a good fire drill, I think

992
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: is how he said it. And I think he might

993
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: have said that more broadly than that as well. So yeah,

994
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense, right. They got to try it,

995
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: They got to see how it worked. They obviously missed

996
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: Josh for a day, and I was interested that Brian

997
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: day Ball then changed at least some of his practice

998
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: script and Matt Barkley's not Josh Allen as we understand.

999
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting and probably good for

1000
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and offense overall to have to deal

1001
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: with that. Josh was frustrated to miss the reps. I

1002
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: certainly understand that as well. So you know to me

1003
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: that lab's got to clean things up, and I have

1004
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: to believe the NFL thinks that as strongly as it

1005
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: possibly can. But other than that, it seemed to have

1006
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: been something that some positive outlooks can be taken in

1007
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: terms of how they handled it and what protocols they

1008
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: had to go through. Hey, Ken, it's Kevin Connors from

1009
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: a ESPN. I'm I'm a big fan. I've been a

1010
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: big fan since you were covering the Yankees, and of

1011
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: course I love your coverage now on the NFL. So

1012
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to go the TV reporter route question here,

1013
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: help our audience and frankly Stephen me too, help us understand.

1014
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: Can you compare what it was like covering training camp

1015
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: last year versus what it's like covering camp this year. Yeah,

1016
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good question, Kevin, and I appreciate

1017
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: your kind remarks as well. You know, I love Rochester,

1018
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: I love Buffalo. I have no issue with Buffalo, but

1019
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: but I got used to going to Saint John Fisher

1020
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: like everyone around here did, and that set up there

1021
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: is just so wonderful, and you know, for my purposes,

1022
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: for our purposes media friendly, it has great views and

1023
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: everything else, and there's nothing wrong with the Bills practice fields,

1024
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: of course, but that's the biggest difference obviously. But I thought,

1025
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: I thought watching the Bills yesterday and today, it felt

1026
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: like I was watching a team that's been together longer

1027
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: than it has And to me that the only way

1028
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: to look at that is obviously a very good sign.

1029
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this looks like a group where some veterans

1030
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: as well as some rookies took the virtual period very seriously.

1031
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: It looks like a team that knows it can be good.

1032
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: And what I say when I say that, I mean

1033
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: the way they carry themselves. You just kind of watch

1034
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: a team and say, these guys could be onto something,

1035
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: and then there are other teams you can watch where

1036
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: you say, this team could could really have some growth

1037
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: moments this year. So I look at the Bills as

1038
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: a team that looks in my opinion for August twenty five,

1039
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: in this year in particular, it looks pretty fine tuned

1040
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: to me. Now, Sean McDermott would probably tell everyone I'm

1041
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: crazy and thinking that, but for my eyes, I gotta

1042
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: be honest, the Bills look pretty good these two days

1043
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker alone with Kevin Connors. We're talking with NFL

1044
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Network reporter Kim Jones. I got to ask you this

1045
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: about the NFL business keeps going on. The Bills were

1046
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: reportedly working out a Jets former first rounder. And I

1047
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: know you're very familiar with the Jets and Giants and

1048
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: those teams around the city. What about Darren Lee? He's

1049
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, spent the last couple of

1050
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: years with Kansas City. What did not work out for

1051
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Kevin or for Darren Lee? Uh? In his time with

1052
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: the Jets, they didn't pick up his fifth year option.

1053
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: He's got first round talent, He's got a lot of ability,

1054
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: but it has just not gone as well as probably

1055
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: Darren Lee and others thought it would. Yeah, I mean

1056
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: it was a bad pick, to be honest with you, Um,

1057
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 1: it was a bad pick, a bad fit. Um, I don't,

1058
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess that would surprise me a little

1059
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: bit here, although um my sense would be here in Buffalo.

1060
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: They probably think you can bring in a player and

1061
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: get his best. Um. Yeah, Darren ly just was among

1062
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: the draft picks that are busts for the Jets. And

1063
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: are the reasons why the Jets are on, you know,

1064
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: a new regime you know again, and the new GM

1065
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: again and all of that stuff. So yeah, Darren ly

1066
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: just really in every way did not work out for

1067
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: the Jets. It can, you know, speaking of the defensive

1068
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball, the Bills bring in Josh and

1069
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, who is going to provide even more up

1070
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: in that secondary. What can you tell us about how

1071
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: Norman is viewing this opportunity with the Bills at this

1072
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: point in his career. Well, I'm intrigue. I was intrigued

1073
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: when they signed him because to me it seemed like,

1074
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, he couldn't get it done in Washington, you know,

1075
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: and now he's come into the Bills. But I think

1076
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: the envisioned him being used quite differently here. He played

1077
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: a lot of man in Washington. I'm not so sure

1078
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: he'll be asked to or required to do any much

1079
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: of that here. And I'm not suggesting the Bills don't

1080
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: play man, but I'm just saying with Josh Norman, I

1081
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: think they believe they can scheme him to a point

1082
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: where he can be a contributor here. I think obviously

1083
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: the hamstrings of shame knocks him out the clock's ticking

1084
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: on Week one for any player with an injury. I

1085
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: think we all recognize that. But there is a firm

1086
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: belief inside the Bills building that that Josh Norman is

1087
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: going to be a contributor and a big one. And

1088
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be very interesting to watch.

1089
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: And I don't doubt their sentiments at all. Yeah. Yeah,

1090
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: And it seems as though he's got a chip on

1091
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: his shoulder. This regime seems to have the ability to

1092
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: sign guys to either short term prove it deals to

1093
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: keep them motivated, or to bring in guys like Josh Norman,

1094
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: no matter what the length of their contract is, to

1095
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: give them that incentive to keep playing hard and continue

1096
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: their career. And even the same has been said for

1097
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: guys like Stefan Diggs. When the Bills got him, they

1098
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, people thought they overpaid for him, gave up

1099
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: too much draft capital. But if Stefan Diggs is the

1100
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: player they think he can be, they've got him tied

1101
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: up to a four year deal that's way below market value,

1102
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: which is a huge plus for the club. Do you

1103
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: think they have all the pieces they need in the

1104
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver room? Oh? I think so. I mean, I

1105
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where else you'd need a piece. I mean,

1106
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 1: I love Gabriel Davis, the rookie. I mean my eyes

1107
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: went to him on the field, I felt like almost

1108
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: as often as anyone else. And there were times during

1109
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: practice where Stefund Diggs was dominant. You know again, I

1110
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, I want to be careful, I want to

1111
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: abide by all the rules, and different teams are a

1112
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: little more sensitive about what you give away. But today

1113
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: I thought Stefan Diggs had a dominant practice in every way,

1114
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: and yet I was still watching Gabe Davis at times,

1115
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: and he preferred Gabriel, So I'll call him Gabriel. But yeah,

1116
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine that. You know, obviously

1117
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: we no one wants to predict injuries, nor would I ever,

1118
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: But you know, you're talking about if that group stays healthy,

1119
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a wide receiver room. Kim. What

1120
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: stands out to you about the I guess it's not

1121
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: a competition per se. But what stands out to you

1122
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: about about where the running backs are right now? Well,

1123
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: what stands out to me is a year ago, and

1124
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: I was probably up here, you know, right around a

1125
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: year ago or so maybe slightly earlier and well certainly

1126
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: earlier in camp as well last year. Is you know,

1127
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary was third string a year ago. He is

1128
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: now the lead guy with Ac Moss. I'm guessing following

1129
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: every you know, every in every one of his footsteps.

1130
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: So I think that that speaks to the NFL. Obviously,

1131
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: it speaks to a lot of things, including Devin Singletary.

1132
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: And my understanding is he ran hills in Miami to

1133
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: get in better shape. That'll do it. I think wait wise,

1134
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: he's about the same. I think the body composition is

1135
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: probably a little bit different, and I think he took

1136
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: the heart the fact that the Bills talk to him

1137
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: about taking care of his body in the off season,

1138
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: about the idea he missed three games last year, they

1139
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: missed him in those three games, and they'd love to

1140
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: have him for all sixteen this year, sixteen plus. So

1141
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: I really I like Devin last year. I thought it

1142
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: was adorable the way he and Frank Gore were, you

1143
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: know me and mimie me. And clearly Frank Gore has

1144
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: imparted some lessons on Devin, as he has so many

1145
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: players in this league, Frank or as everyone here knows

1146
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: how so highly respected. But I like seeing Devon grow.

1147
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of fun. I haven't had

1148
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him yet to see, but

1149
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: it's fun to see a guy who last year was

1150
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: this rookie with great promise and like I said, you know,

1151
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: kind of falling around Frank and now he's the guy,

1152
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: right Steve Task Kevin Connors on One Bill's Live. We're

1153
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: talking with NFL Network reporter Kim Jones, who's been in

1154
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo watching the Bill's practice for a couple of days.

1155
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: But you spend a lot of your time during the

1156
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: regular season and in your regular routine during the regular

1157
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: season talking about and looking at the New York Jets

1158
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: and the New York Giants and the Jets camp. We're

1159
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: interested in how it's going here in Buffalo because they're

1160
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: obviously in the AFC East, and we're trying to keep

1161
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: track of and we've always got the constant comparisons going

1162
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: between Sam Darnold and Josh Allen, and two short years

1163
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: ago in the offseason, the Bills and the Jets were

1164
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: on parallel tracks. They both drafted their future quarterback, they

1165
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: both had tons of cap space to spend on free agency.

1166
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: The Jets spent THEIRS on CJ. Moseley and Levon Bell.

1167
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: The Bills spent THEIRS on less well known free agents,

1168
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: more middle of their own road free agents and got

1169
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: more mileage out of them. Levion Bell was out for

1170
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: the year. CJ. Moseley was hurt, and the Jets got

1171
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: nothing for all the money they spent. So the two

1172
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: teams have diverged. And now you've got people saying the

1173
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: Jets gonna go three and thirteen this year and they're

1174
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: picking the Bills to win the division. What is going

1175
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: on with the Jets these days? What is the vibe

1176
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: coming out of They can't be doom and gloom the

1177
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: way some people have. I know that Greg Williams is

1178
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: an excellent coordinator. Adam Gase has got to feel confident

1179
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: about his second year with Sam Darnold. What's going on

1180
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: with the Jets and what's the vibe coming out of

1181
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: their locker room and their training camp? Yeah? Well, first

1182
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: of all, Avon looks terrific. He's down to two hundred

1183
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: and ten pounds. That's his lightest since high school. He

1184
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: talked on Zoom very much like a guy who doesn't

1185
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: want to have regrets when he leaves this game, and

1186
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: he admitted he said, I thought I was in good

1187
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: shape a year ago. I wasn't even close. Now he

1188
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: looks physically, he looks fantastic, and I think will have

1189
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: some more more confidence in him this year. He got

1190
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: plenty of touches. Last year, the line wasn't really capable,

1191
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: and I think the growth in terms of getting to

1192
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: get to know a runner with the patience of Leavon

1193
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: certainly had growing pains. But I do suspect he'll be

1194
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: better this year. Frank's right there, and I don't think

1195
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: Adam Gates would shy away from using Frank or any time.

1196
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: This is the year of Sam for the Jets. Sam

1197
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: Darnold has to show progress, and I think Adam Gates's

1198
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: job probably depends on it, and I think Adam probably

1199
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: would acknowledge that. So, you know, it's a big year

1200
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: for the Jets in terms of making progress. But they're

1201
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: they're not to a point like the Bills are where

1202
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: I can talk about oh sixteen games plus. I mean,

1203
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: they're very much rebuilding an all new offensive line. They

1204
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: will have a lot of cap space after this season,

1205
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: so we'll see what they can do. But but their

1206
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: biggest priority this year is Sam Darnold leaving this season

1207
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: as the player they drafted and the player fulfilling all

1208
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: of that potential. That's what they hope to leave this

1209
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: season with, above it and beyond all. Such a critical

1210
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: year for Darnold and boy, it seems like the Jets

1211
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: are perpetually rebuilding. At least that's been the case for

1212
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: a little while. Kim. You know, the safety position is

1213
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: so interesting. It's been a busy offseason at that position

1214
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. From speaking of the Jets Jamal Adams

1215
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: going to the Seahawks to the last twenty four hours,

1216
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: there've been a couple of developments, one certainly a very

1217
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: positive for Buddha Baker, the other one a serious injury.

1218
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: I guess let's start with the Browns and I wear

1219
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: the college football had an ESPN on Saturdays. I'm in

1220
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: studio and man, Grant Delpit was a guy who was

1221
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch at LSU. That's a

1222
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: tough blow in Cleveland. What can you tell us about him? Yeah,

1223
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: not much to be candid with you, but I know

1224
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: it's a he was going to start and that's tough,

1225
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: and I think Greedy will is injured. I don't know

1226
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: anything about his injury. That's literally all I heard was

1227
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams is also injured, and he of course had

1228
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: a big step back to start last season. So yeah,

1229
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Browns can't get healthy, you feel

1230
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: for him, because I did think that this year would

1231
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: be much better. I still think it's going to be

1232
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: better for the Browns, but certainly health is something that

1233
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: once you start losing players for the season, and obviously

1234
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: you're not coming back from a torn achilles during a season,

1235
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: so that'll be a next year deal. You know, it hurts,

1236
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: and I at this point don't know how they'll replace him.

1237
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: They'll certainly find someone, but but it won't be the

1238
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: rookie they drafted. Also, one of your in your pur view,

1239
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time looking at the New

1240
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: York Giants, and Joe Judge just made some waves by

1241
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: making everybody run laps. He wants to get his team

1242
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: hard nosed, and I know it's it's it's kind of

1243
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: normal for a guy to come in, take a new

1244
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: job and be a hard guy in the early going

1245
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: because you can always ease back on that as the

1246
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: season rolls along, and to start out with setting a

1247
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: stard and then you know, having guys work to get there.

1248
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: But the other day we heard that he he was

1249
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: very unhappy with the Giants and yelled at him for

1250
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: a minute and made him practice forty five minutes longer.

1251
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: How do you think it's going for Joe Judge? What

1252
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: are the Giants expectations and how is he being perceived

1253
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: not only by the Giants fan base but by the

1254
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: players in the locker room. Yeah, you know, just the

1255
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: one thing about the forty five minutes longer, because that

1256
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: does seem extreme. I think that report had to be

1257
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: walked back because it really wasn't a longer practice. The

1258
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: PR's approximates practice time, so I think the reporter in

1259
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: that case might have made an assumption that you know,

1260
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: that eventually walked back. But there's no doubt that these

1261
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: are long practices for the Giants, that these are tough

1262
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: practices for the Giants. That does include running laps for

1263
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: mistakes and that sort of thing. It is a fast

1264
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: paced practice. Um, sometimes the running backs go through you know,

1265
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: a drill each, let's say, to the left, a drill

1266
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: each to the right, and then they're moving on to

1267
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: another drill. Um. You know, all of this is going

1268
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: to be something that that you know, after this season,

1269
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of this season, because we do I

1270
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: would say in years, except we don't do anything in

1271
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: years now. We do it much more, um, you know,

1272
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: much and more short term. So we will start evaluating

1273
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: Joe Judge when you see his seat, when we see

1274
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: his team against competition, Uh, it is uh, you know,

1275
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: it has a hard edge to it. Um, you know,

1276
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: getting yelled at. I mean to me, that's a shrug.

1277
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 1: But some of the drills have been you know, pretty tough,

1278
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: pretty you know, there was an injury in one, that

1279
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So, um, we'll see. With the New

1280
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: York Giants, they are a relatively young team. They would

1281
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: tell you a very young team. It's probably somewhere in

1282
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: the middle there. And they're they're they're rebuilding for sure,

1283
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: which is a hard thing for the Giants to admit

1284
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: that they are rebuilding. Uh. And we're going to see

1285
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: how the goes. There's a lot to like about Joe Judge,

1286
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: and you know, some of the discipline, clearly is what

1287
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: he believes this team has lacked over the last few years.

1288
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: I think ownership would agree with him, and he was

1289
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: brought here to toughen them up and to make them better,

1290
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out in real time how that's going. Hey, Cam,

1291
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: you know we've been asking the question all show. What

1292
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: does Josh Allen need to do in twenty twenty to

1293
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: silence the critics? I will fully admit I am a

1294
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: big time Bills fan, but I've also got the national perspective,

1295
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of the criticism that

1296
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: he gets has been largely unfair. And as I've been

1297
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: telling Steve, you know, this is a team that won

1298
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: ten games a season ago and Josh was a major

1299
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: part of that. What's your opinion? What do you think

1300
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: he needs to do in twenty twenty to silence the critics.

1301
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: I think he needs to complete a seventy six yard

1302
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Stefon Diggs where the ball is right

1303
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: where Diggs needs it, and he can run the rest

1304
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: of the way. That's it, and then that highlight can

1305
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: live literally forever for him and for the build. Um.

1306
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: I will say this about Josh Allen. I said this

1307
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: today on NFL Network. He is the most and I

1308
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: don't say this lightly. I've been doing this for decades.

1309
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't say this lightly. He to me is the

1310
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: most self aware and the most willing to take it

1311
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: on his shoulders and use the pronoun I have to

1312
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: get better of any quarterback I think I've ever covered

1313
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: he just and I haven't covered as many as some

1314
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: because Eli had a sixteen year reign, so um. But

1315
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of quarterbacks. And Josh told

1316
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: me last year at one point that he made an

1317
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: improvement during the season because he realized he couldn't play

1318
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: here roball anymore. He didn't need to do that, get

1319
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: plenty of teammates who could help him win games. And

1320
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: as I said on the network today candidly, in the

1321
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: playoff game, he reverted back to some of that, and

1322
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: he and the Bills would agree he reverted back to

1323
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: some of that. But you know, there's a reason we

1324
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: have a cliche that habits, old habits die hard, right,

1325
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: because they do. And I think that Josh is now.

1326
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: My sense is that Josh is now taking that step

1327
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: where he does truly understand he doesn't he truly doesn't

1328
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: have to do it all anymore. Guys. I mean, look

1329
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: at the players around, and he really really has a

1330
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: lot of help there, and certainly on offense. And I'm

1331
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: not even including the terrific defense, which I love watching

1332
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: them practice. By the way, So I think that Josh

1333
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: has always taken at least, if not many times, more

1334
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: than his share of blame on his shoulders. I don't

1335
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 1: think people should take that lightly, because not every quarterback

1336
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: does that. I'm not going to name names because why bother,

1337
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: but a lot of quarterbacks say we need to play better,

1338
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: and it's always we need to play better, Josh says

1339
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: I and I really have always respected that about him,

1340
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: and I respect about him that at least with me.

1341
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,480
Speaker 1: And we're not going to get locker room time this year, unfortunately,

1342
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: but at least with me, he has always been willing

1343
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: to open up in terms of shortcoming, ways that he

1344
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: wants to improve and ways that he needs to improve.

1345
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: I have tremendous respect for everything I know about Josh

1346
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: Allen Kim, thanks so much. I know that this year

1347
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: is different, as we've talked about earlier in this segment

1348
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: about how it is to travel. I can't tell you

1349
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: how much we appreciate you dropping by Buffalo to check

1350
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: out the Buffalo Bills and spending some time with us

1351
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live. We really appreciate it. I

1352
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: hope you travel well and travel safely the rest of

1353
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: your training camp trips. I enjoyed it. Thank you so much,

1354
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: Kevin and Steve. You know I always enjoy joining you.

1355
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Kim Jones, NFL Network reporter, and Kevin,

1356
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: you get that sense, and it's always nice for us

1357
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: because you know, we're a little bit you know, laser

1358
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: focused here and One Bills Live on the Bills as

1359
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: you might imagine, it's nice to get and that's why

1360
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to have you on this show, because you know,

1361
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: you you cover the entire league plus baseball and hockey,

1362
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: and you do playboll so you're more of a national

1363
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: set of eyes to come down and and look at

1364
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: these bills a little more closely. We always interest it's

1365
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: always interesting to all of us, you know, hearing the

1366
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: show and in the control room to hear what other

1367
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: people who aren't part of the everyday life here at

1368
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive how they see the team. And you know,

1369
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: Kim Jones has always been one to be really honest

1370
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: with and and you have been too, and to hear

1371
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: her voice time words about Josh, I think that's it

1372
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: echoes the fact that everywhere you go, every player who

1373
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: plays with him says, man, they love that guy, they

1374
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: love playing for him, playing with him, and maybe it

1375
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: gets back to something as simple as him saying, hey,

1376
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: I need to be better, not we me. It's you know,

1377
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: it take a lot more of the blame than maybe

1378
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: even he deserves. Steve. That's that's what stood out to

1379
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: me from what Kim said about Josh was the accountability.

1380
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: And I think you can boil it down forget football

1381
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: for a minute. I think like life, if you're if

1382
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: you're friends with someone, if you're in a relationship with someone,

1383
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: if you're working with some one, you want someone who's

1384
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: going to be self aware and accountable. And so to

1385
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: hear that a guy like Josh Allen, despite being a

1386
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: successful NFL starting quarterback, can be humble enough to admit shortcomings,

1387
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: to own up to certain things and say that he's

1388
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: got to get better in a league where man, you

1389
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: had better have an ego if you want to be successful,

1390
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. I got, you know, and I guess

1391
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: that's why I get defensive of Josh is because I think,

1392
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: and you're closer to it than I am. I think

1393
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 1: he's done everything right from the time he's gotten to Buffalo.

1394
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: He's embraced the city, he's embraced being part of the team,

1395
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: he's embraced certain shortcomings, and he's been successful. I guess

1396
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: that's why I get defensive, and so I look, it

1397
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: was really neat to hear Kim, who has gotten out

1398
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: to cover the team on a more regular basis than

1399
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: I have, say those things about him, right, and I

1400
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: agree it completely with you. We're Steve Tasker, Kevin Connors.

1401
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: We're here one Bills Live till three o'clock or than

1402
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: to Kim Jones for coming on of NFL Network. You

1403
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: can go back and listen to those on the podcast

1404
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills dot com or on the Bills app

1405
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: on your phone as well, or on Spotify as well,

1406
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. You can go back and

1407
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: listen to any part of the show. Now. Coming up later,

1408
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: we've got post practice sound of guys coming off the

1409
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: practice field with Gabriel Davis and also Isaiah Hodges, the

1410
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: two rookie wide receivers of the Buffalo Bills. Steep Tasker

1411
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: Kevin Conners here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1412
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's

1413
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: Live Steep Tasker. Along with Kevin Conners of ESPN co

1414
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: hosting today, we're asking you, our listeners, what does Josh

1415
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: Allen need to do to silence the critics in twenty twenty.

1416
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: We've got a tweet sheet on the go. We've got

1417
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are chiming in. This tweet

1418
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: sheet is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems. This

1419
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And

1420
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: first up on the tweet sheet is actually I'm gonna

1421
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: have to ask you, Kevin to read it because I

1422
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: deleted the email before we came on the air. I

1423
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: can't find it. You gotta at who's on the tweet sheet?

1424
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Is that generally what happens when Jay sends

1425
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: out an email, it immediately goes to the trash bit?

1426
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: Is that is that how it goes? I didn't want

1427
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: to say it like that, but yeah, probably that's that's

1428
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you, that is probably exactly

1429
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: what happens to it. So um, yeah, I can't find it.

1430
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: We got from from Bills and Mets fan. He writes,

1431
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: take the next step toward being great, connect on passes,

1432
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: win consistency, consistently lead the team, win one or more

1433
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: playoff games. Look like a true franchise quarterback. So he's

1434
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: got to do it all. What's interesting to me, So

1435
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: like win one playoff game is interesting to me? Is that?

1436
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: So will you walk away from twenty twenty If if

1437
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: the Bills win one playoff game, will you say I'm

1438
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: okay with that? That's progress? Yeah, No, there's so much

1439
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: goes into it. They could go not as far as

1440
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: they did last year, and it would be progress for

1441
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen if the offense comes out and and lights

1442
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: it up, scores you know, twenty six points per game,

1443
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: and something else is the reasons they lose these games

1444
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: or what you know what I mean. So, yeah, there's

1445
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways. And now you don't anticipate

1446
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: that happening because you don't think this Tiger is going

1447
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: to change its stripes in one offseason, particularly this last

1448
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: offseason that we had, So it's gonna be more building

1449
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: on what they've done. But yeah, you can certainly draw

1450
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: unlikely scenarios about you know, Josh Allen could be highly

1451
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: successful in the team not doing it as well as

1452
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: it did last year. That's hard to conjure up. But

1453
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: still you've seen other teams do it. It would cause

1454
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: this team to go in a completely opposite direction. But

1455
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm not going to be satisfied with a

1456
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: one playoff win. You want to It depends on how

1457
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: that second playoff game is lost. You know, you that

1458
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: last game counts as a full regular season to me,

1459
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: if you can get in that tournament. I mean, I

1460
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: still think about I don't think about too much about

1461
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: the entire season last year. I think about the missed

1462
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: opportunity they had in an overtime game on the road

1463
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs where they had a chance and could

1464
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: have should have didn't win that game. That's what I

1465
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: think about the entire season last year. So I want

1466
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: to see that game. The next they win a playoff game,

1467
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens in the second one,

1468
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: what they didn't win? Why's that happen? How's it happen?

1469
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: Is that? Was it a better team or was it

1470
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: just that they made one more play than the Bills did?

1471
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: To win it. That's much of what happened. I thought

1472
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: in the Houston game. Both those teams were one play

1473
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: away from it in overtime, and you know, the Texans

1474
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: end up making the play that gives them a chance

1475
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: to kick the winning field goal after the Bills had possession.

1476
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: So I think that's the way it happened. But anyway that,

1477
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, they end up losing the game on a play.

1478
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna I get it. It's people will

1479
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: say in the big picture, winning a playoff game is

1480
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: further than they got this year. I'm not really just

1481
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: waiting to ready to say that is the be all

1482
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: end all of the entire season, and they'll be happy

1483
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: with the result. I'm not. I'm not ready to go

1484
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: there at all. We've got another one from the tweet.

1485
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: It is go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, and Steve, it

1486
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: is just to put a button on the point. It

1487
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: is funny how we we like to quantify, all right,

1488
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: if we can just win one playoff game, Well, you're right,

1489
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what if you're playing a team that has

1490
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: no business being in the playoffs. So and the other

1491
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: great point that you made, and I'll let you continue

1492
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: with the tweets. The other great point is the value

1493
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,520
Speaker 1: of that playoff game last year to me for Josh,

1494
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: is for the whole team obviously, but for Josh to

1495
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: understand what it's like to understand the value of every play.

1496
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see him continue to jump

1497
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: this year because of that game. Yeah. And it's it's

1498
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: interesting too, because you can always go to statistics and say,

1499
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, well, this year, he's got to put together

1500
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: a season excuse me, that is statistically on par with

1501
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, one of those guys

1502
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: you know. And I think this next tweet from Jeremiah

1503
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: is kind of where I'm more at. I'm saying, he says,

1504
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: improve his consistency with making the right decisions and finding

1505
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: his open receivers. He's got as much, if not more ability,

1506
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: than any QB in the league. He just needs to

1507
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: put it all together and be consistent. And when I

1508
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: think about it, that's kind of where I'm at. I

1509
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: don't really I can't really put a number on it

1510
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: like this many yards passing, this many touchdowns, this many interceptions,

1511
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: this QBR this yard's per attempt For me, because I

1512
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: know this, I'm like every Bills fan. I'm gonna watch

1513
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: every snap. It's how I feel about Josh Allen every game.

1514
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, how do I feel about the way he

1515
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: played this game versus the games he put together last

1516
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: year or the year before or last week even. And

1517
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: I think that's more the conversation I have with myself

1518
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: about how Josh how much you know? How in I

1519
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: am on Josh Allen his ability to be a franchise quarterback.

1520
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: Do I feel week to week like he's the guy? Sometimes? Yeah,

1521
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: he is, There's no question, and then other times it's like,

1522
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: oh man, I wish you'd have played better. So it

1523
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: is a little bit like that, but I hesitate to

1524
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: put numbers on it. You know, Steve as someone who

1525
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: ran the routes and knows what it means for a

1526
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: quarterback to be more consistent. What does that mean for you?

1527
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: Is it as simple as god, You've got to make

1528
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: that throw more? I mean, like, like us understand what

1529
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: more consistent means beyond the box score? Yeah, I think

1530
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: for me it is about when the throw's there, he

1531
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: sees it. It's also this this offense, and I've used

1532
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 1: the word efficient a lot during this offseason, because there

1533
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: were times last year when Josh would make a throw

1534
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: or whether it was completed or not, where if you

1535
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: go back and if you watch a little bit of

1536
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: the film, or if you see it from a high

1537
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: angle without every rewatching, you can say, well, why didn't

1538
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: he throw it to that guy right there, or why

1539
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: did he wait so long before he came to this

1540
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: other guy over here? Because by then it was almost

1541
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: too late. If he would have thrown this shot on

1542
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: first net on first down, they would have been in

1543
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: third and one instead of third and nine. If you'd

1544
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: have made the quick throw on second down, they would

1545
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: have been in third and one. Now the throw was

1546
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: too late. Now it's third and seven. And now they

1547
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: got this. Now they got to this conversion to make

1548
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: instead of a third and one, it's a third and seven.

1549
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: That kind of thing I saw last year some and

1550
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: it not always, but there was also those And then

1551
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, there was contributing factors too, Like we had

1552
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: one of our callers today said, you know, well they

1553
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: had you know, you get to that point and then

1554
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: Josh makes the right read, makes the right through and

1555
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: how he dropped it. You know, they were like number

1556
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: three in the league and drop percentage, So all of

1557
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: those things in that confluence of events and all that

1558
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: stuff they're going together. You think we'll shoot. That's why

1559
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: they can't stay on the field offensively, That's why they

1560
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: need to score an entire touchdown more a game this

1561
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: year than they did last year. If they can do that,

1562
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: that's the only stat that matters is how many points

1563
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: you can score offensively, And I think if they can

1564
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: get better at that, I think everybody will shut up

1565
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: and sit down because Josh will get some credit for that. Yeah.

1566
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: So then what I take away from what you're saying

1567
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: there is it's much about physically making the throws as

1568
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: it is recognizing the throws that you have to make.

1569
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: But and I and again, I keep beating the same drum.

1570
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: But to me, isn't that part of process? Like isn't

1571
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: that how many quarterbacks come into the NFL as sophisticated

1572
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: as the NFL is now? And I know these guys

1573
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: play pro systems in college at the Power five schools,

1574
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: But how many guys comm into the league and immediately

1575
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: the light is on and they perform at that level.

1576
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is for me with Josh

1577
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: like these things take a little bit of time. Defenses

1578
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: are sophisticated. You're going up against the very best in

1579
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: the world, who, by the way, now have all the

1580
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: tools in which to quantify what's happening on the field.

1581
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a little time. So that's why I

1582
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: point to, Yeah, you better continue to see the growth.

1583
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: But I've got reason to believe that it's there because

1584
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 1: I've seen the growth from year one to year two

1585
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: and where we were in the playoffs last year. Steve

1586
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: Task along with Kevin Connor's ESPN SportsCenter anchor, joining us

1587
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: here for the co hosting duties all day. Today. We've

1588
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: got a caller on the line from Buffalo on Line one, Mark,

1589
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? You're with Steve and Kevin on

1590
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. Go ahead, and good afternoon, Good afternoon. Hey.

1591
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: Before I talk about what I called about, you guys

1592
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: are talking about Buffalo athletes and why our areas special.

1593
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that as a sports fan,

1594
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: as a lifelong sports fan, you guys aren't just celebrities

1595
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: in our community, your family, and we treat you that way,

1596
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: we love you that way, and we embrace our teams

1597
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: that way, and I think, you know, I think it's

1598
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: a special place obviously because I've lived here my old life.

1599
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: But I really am proud of my community as to

1600
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: how we embrace our athletes and even if you don't

1601
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: live here, then you're considered extended family and they're always welcome.

1602
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: So well, that's what makes our area special. Well, Mark,

1603
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And you're talking to one alumni from

1604
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills who says you should be proud of

1605
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: your community for because it's true they do do that.

1606
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: They've done it for me, and they've done it for

1607
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: a number of other guys, and so I agree with you,

1608
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: you should be proud of your community for that reason.

1609
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: What else you got on your mind? Oh, Josh Allen,

1610
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: You guys are talking about Josh a lot for me.

1611
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I liked I liked the draft pick of

1612
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: Josh when they did it. I had my eye on

1613
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: him when he was a junior. I was hoping the

1614
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: Bills would draft him. But anyway, I think during the

1615
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: regular season, for Josh to take that next step regularly,

1616
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: weekend in week out, he's got to be a contributor

1617
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: to a major contributor as to why the team is winning,

1618
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: and then when they get into the playoffs, and this

1619
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: is a big if if and when if they would

1620
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: lose in the playoffs, when we look at that game

1621
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: he's got he can't be the reason why we lost,

1622
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: either through mistakes or because he didn't do enough. And

1623
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: as long as he plays to that kind of level

1624
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: and he's always moving the team forward and if we

1625
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: just playing good beat I can't accept that. But I

1626
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 1: don't want to see him take a step back, especially

1627
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: in the playoffs where he makes mistakes cost us the game,

1628
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: or he didn't just do enough leading the team or

1629
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: making enough passes whatever to help us win. So that's

1630
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: how I look at it. Mark, thanks for the call.

1631
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Kevin, what do you think about that?

1632
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I got about. You know, you

1633
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: kind of feel it more than you can quantify it.

1634
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's on the money. But

1635
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: again I think that this. You know, look if if

1636
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen played at Georgia or Alabama and he's throwing

1637
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: to Jerry Judy or you know, or some or AJ

1638
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: Green or some top flight receiver on a regular he

1639
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: played a Wyoming which is I mean the knock Wyoming,

1640
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: but it's a different level. And so now you're in

1641
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: the NFL and you're playing with and against all these

1642
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: elite players, it's gonna take a little bit of time.

1643
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone when we drafted Josh felt he

1644
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: was a finished product. So to me, I'm fine with

1645
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: where he is. But again, as Mark pointed out, and

1646
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: as we've been pointing out throughout the course of the show, here,

1647
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, now it's big time, right, you know anything

1648
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: I think last year it was wow, this is really nice.

1649
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: This may have happened a little bit sooner than we thought.

1650
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: Now he's dealing with expectations and so you better deliver.

1651
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: And it's year three, and every year is in the

1652
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: NFL for a quarterback anyway is big. So let's see.

1653
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: But but I again, I keep on beating the drum

1654
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe our listeners are thinking, boy, this is

1655
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: an apologist. I'm not. I just I'm pretty pleased with

1656
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: where we are through two years. Steve Tasker and Kevin

1657
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: Connor here on One Bills Live. We're gonna come up

1658
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: with some news and notes from around the National Football

1659
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: League coming up at the two o'clock hour, We've got

1660
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: sound coming up post practice from the Buffalo Bills rookie

1661
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: wide receivers Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodge. Coming up, Steve Tasker,

1662
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Kevin Connors here one Bills Live on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1663
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of those live tea task along

1664
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: with Kevin Connor's a lot of stuff going around the

1665
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: National Football League. Day eight of Buffalo Bill's training camp.

1666
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: This just came across just before we came on on

1667
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: the on the air, Buddah Baker is what's how do

1668
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: you say? His name? Is it Buddha Baker? Yes, Buddha

1669
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: Baker's the safety from Arizona just made himself or the

1670
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals made him the highest paid safety and National

1671
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: Football League history, fifty nine million dollars, four year contract

1672
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: with thirty three point one or something that we are

1673
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood guaranteed. So Buddha Baker signing as a

1674
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: what has to be considered a foundational piece of the

1675
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Arizona defense for years to come. Big day for him,

1676
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and congratulations to him on making that deal. Wiles, He's man, Steve,

1677
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: I hear that, and you know who I either the

1678
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,919
Speaker 1: first thought that I had. You know, who's the happiest

1679
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: person in America, maybe even more than Buddha Baker? Yeah,

1680
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, Micah Hide or Jamal Adams. Right, I meanever

1681
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: you hear bill deals like that, you know, the guys

1682
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: who are the premier players of the position say hey,

1683
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm up next, right, Yeah, it's true. And you know

1684
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. Um. Now, I mean those all these all

1685
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: these safeties, every and every position is going through it

1686
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: where it's going to be transformational. And I'm surprised at all.

1687
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: I don't know why I am, but I'm surprised given

1688
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: the outlook of the next twelve months or fourteen months

1689
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: of the National Football League and the salary cap that

1690
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: is that they're staring at in the face that these

1691
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: clubs are signing these guys to these deals they're just

1692
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: making They're just making the commitment. Um. And I've also

1693
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: heard this too, and I don't know how this works,

1694
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: but the big prevailing sentiment is teams can fit guys

1695
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: under the cap whoever they want. The cap is not

1696
01:27:53,920 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: as hard to manipulate as what we sometimes in the

1697
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: media is. Certainly the average fan might think sometimes and

1698
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: I've heard analysts say this that if a team says, well,

1699
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: we can't fit him under the cap, it's really akin

1700
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: to the old relationship thing. Well, you know, they're just

1701
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: not that into you. You know, that's why they won't

1702
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: white fit you under the cap. And I'm beginning to

1703
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: see that that's probably the case. As safeties are now

1704
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: signing for fourteen million on average per year around the

1705
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: National Football League. The salaries are going nowhere but up,

1706
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: even in a year where the salary cap may contract. Yeah,

1707
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: and what do you think of that, Steve, Because you

1708
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: know what, for me, like so many of my friends

1709
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: or Jets fans, so there, I have a sympathetic spot

1710
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: in my heart for the Jets. And yet for me,

1711
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I said, boy, you as good as Jamal Adams is,

1712
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: and he is a good player. You know, do you

1713
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: really want to lock up a safety to that kind

1714
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: of money? I mean, what's your opinion is that money

1715
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: will spent when you're talking about the entirety of a

1716
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: football team. I think when you're making a guy the

1717
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: highest guy at his position in the National Football League,

1718
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: it's more than what he does on the field. It's

1719
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: got he's got to be great character, great teammate, great citizen,

1720
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: coach on the field, sold out for the team, for

1721
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: the community. He's just got to be a foundational piece

1722
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, well at the

1723
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, at the end of his career,

1724
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: he will be a guy who is in the community

1725
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: even after he's done playing. He's got to be one

1726
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,759
Speaker 1: of those pillars of the community like the Jim Kelly's

1727
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: of the world and the Thurman Thomas is Who guy too,

1728
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: hall of famers who live here locally in Buffalo. You

1729
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: got to be that kind of guy for me, in

1730
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: my opinion, to be a top the top paid guy

1731
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: at your position in the NFL. And I'm not talking

1732
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: about a guy gets cut from another team and all

1733
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're the top. A guy who

1734
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: sets the standard. That's a huge commitment for a club

1735
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: to make. And there are a lot of things that

1736
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: go into that, and I think most of them are

1737
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: things that the average fan will never see. And it

1738
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: comes down to a number of things too. You've got

1739
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: the coaching staff believes in the guy. He fits their system,

1740
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: he's him, his position is important in their system. Safeties

1741
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: are more important than some defensive schemes than they are

1742
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: and others. It's got to be that kind of fit

1743
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: as well. And we've had this conversation to Kevin over

1744
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the course of the last year where we've had analytics

1745
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 1: people come on and start to tilt the scales away

1746
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: from defensive philosophies where they believe pressure is more important

1747
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: than coverage, or coverage is more important than pressure, and

1748
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: more and more teams are deciding the coverage. When you

1749
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: talk about analytics, coverage is a bigger factor in a

1750
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: good defense than the pressure is. And that's new to

1751
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And maybe this the new signing

1752
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,759
Speaker 1: of Buddha Baker is you know, one more team deciding

1753
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: the coverage in the back end of their defense is

1754
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: more important than the guys they got rushed in the passer.

1755
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: It's the fascinating part of sports. And it's amazing how

1756
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: analytics right. It used to be that analytics was a

1757
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: baseball thing, and now, of course, why wouldn't it translate

1758
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: to the NFL and the NBA. And I just was,

1759
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, just for me when I think, not not

1760
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: to downplay the importance of the position, but for me,

1761
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: when you're talking about paying what's four years sixty. So

1762
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're fifteen million dollars a year

1763
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: for a safety. I just wondered if that. But clearly

1764
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: that's where the league is going, because again Micah and

1765
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams are going to certainly be in that neighborhood,

1766
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: if not in a better neighborhood. Yeah. Now, yeah, Jordan

1767
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Porry just signed a new deal. He's got to be

1768
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: extremely happy with it. No, no, And for me, during

1769
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: my playing and even now that I'm an old guy,

1770
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: where I've When I was playing, all the old guys

1771
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 1: were like belly aching about the money we were making,

1772
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: you know, So I told myself, don't be that guy, right,

1773
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I I am so happy for all

1774
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: these guys signing these begging because they're life changing deals

1775
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: now and when I was in the league, maybe less

1776
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: than a handful of guys on the team would change life,

1777
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: would sign life changing deals. Maybe a handful of guys Now, guys,

1778
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's a high percentage of the players on

1779
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: the team. If you're a starter and a long player

1780
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: that gets into your second contract, that contract very likely

1781
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: is life changing. So I'm very happy for those guys.

1782
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I am not bitter at all. And if a guy

1783
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: like Buddha Baker can sign a fifty seven or fifty

1784
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: nine million dollar deal, you know, I'm all about I

1785
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: give him a hug. That's great. So I'm just happy

1786
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: that the league is growing the way it is. It

1787
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 1: doesn't shock me so much how big the league has

1788
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: gotten because Kevin, for me, this league is going to grow,

1789
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:46,879
Speaker 1: continue to grow. It is too well run and depending

1790
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: on the outcome of this season. Can you imagine this

1791
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: season going off without and I don't know if it

1792
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: can happen, but if it goes off a sixteen game

1793
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: schedule without a hitch, through the playoffs, through the Super

1794
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: Bowl without a hitch, with these teams just plowing through

1795
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: whatever outbreaks they may have or injuries or what have you.

1796
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 1: Given the atmosphere of the country and the world health

1797
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: that we've all seen, if the NFL can pull this off,

1798
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: it is just one more reason why they're the eight

1799
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: hundred pound guerrilla in the American landscape of sports. They

1800
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: did it in the face of a pandemic, and they're

1801
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna grow like wildfire in the aftermath of this.

1802
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: I think if they can pull this off without a hitch.

1803
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: So I'll wrap it up by by saying this, NBA

1804
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: ratings are down, and you can you can jump to

1805
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: your own conclusions why that's the case. I'm sure it's

1806
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: several different reasons, but NBA ratings are down. Major League Baseball,

1807
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: Steve is headed towards another labor dispute that's going to happen.

1808
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: The NFL continues to just chug along and and more

1809
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: than chug. I use the analogy earlier. It's a locomotive,

1810
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: and you're right, people are thirsting for football. If there's

1811
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: no college football, I think you might see the NFL

1812
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 1: more days of the week than we have it already

1813
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: for TV reasons. It's only growing. And you're right. If

1814
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 1: you're not happy about these these contracts people are signing

1815
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: right now, you better get used to it, because they

1816
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: ain't going down, They're going up. Yeah, that's right. Kevin

1817
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: Connor Steve Tasker on One Bills Live. We're gonna take

1818
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: a break and come back. After the break, we're gonna

1819
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: hear from Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins. We've got some

1820
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: soundbites from them from today after practice. We're gonna let

1821
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: you hear from the two rookie wide receivers of the

1822
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. This is One Bills Live presented by Kali

1823
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: to help on Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll be right back.

1824
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chief Task along with

1825
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Connor's ESPN anchor of SportsCenter, joining me here for

1826
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: the day till three o'clock. We've talked to Kim Jones

1827
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: earlier in the program. We're also asking you are listeners,

1828
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 1: you know, what does Josh need to do to silence

1829
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: the critics in twenty twenty who've got a ton of

1830
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: responses from that. But also today is day eight of

1831
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's training camp, and after practice, the two rookie

1832
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: wide receivers were made available to the Western New York media.

1833
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: The fourth round draft pick Gabe Davis and the sixth

1834
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: round draft pick Isaiah Hodgins were made available. And you know,

1835
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: the first thing you always ask these guys, Kevin, is

1836
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: you know how they're transitioning to the National Football League.

1837
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: You want to hear how it's going in practice. Nobody,

1838
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 1: particularly this year, because nobody can see it. So Gabe Davis,

1839
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 1: certainly enough was asked about his transition to the National

1840
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Football League. And here's what he said on the transition

1841
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: to Uh, this is Gabriel Davis art second sound bite.

1842
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually going out of order. So Gabe Davis on

1843
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: his transition to the National Football League. Here's how he

1844
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: answered the question. The transition has been well, these guys

1845
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: welcome all of us with open arms. And you know,

1846
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,799
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a family here. It's it's again.

1847
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: I keep saying it over and over again like a

1848
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: broken record, but I'm just happy to be a part

1849
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: of the team. This is a great organization to be

1850
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: a part of and couldn't be anywhere better. And you know,

1851
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: just to get the plants on me again, like I

1852
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: like I've been saying again, just going out there trying

1853
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 1: to compete every day to take advantage of the opportunity,

1854
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: just like everybody else is out there. Yeah that Kevin,

1855
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? And we've had this

1856
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: conversation a lot here in Buffalo over the last three

1857
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: years about this culture. You know, yeah, let me just

1858
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: do the finger quotes, um, the culture thing that and

1859
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: you were college had he played college hoops, You've you've

1860
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: been a part of some you know, some teams. Just

1861
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: give us your impression about how important it is, Like

1862
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: this Cape Davis, a young kid coming in and say, hey,

1863
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: they opened their arms to me that I feel like

1864
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm part of a family. How does that help a

1865
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: team win games? Culture was immediately the word that I

1866
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: thought of when we played that when we played that

1867
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis SoundBite. And so you know, you can say, well,

1868
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: maybe the Bills just went out and drafted a guy

1869
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: who was a high character guy, right, But that's also

1870
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 1: true of Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds and Devin Singletar,

1871
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: and you can go right on down the list. So

1872
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: at some point you say, are they just hitting home

1873
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: runs by drafting all these really good character, high character guys,

1874
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: or is it the culture in the organization? Is it

1875
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: the organization identifying guys who will fit the culture? And

1876
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: is it the culture that's around that these players are

1877
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: learning and adapting to. And it's one of the biggest

1878
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 1: reasons Steve that you know, even in year one and

1879
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: year two I was high on Brendan Bean and Sean

1880
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: McDermott because I thought there was something a little bit

1881
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: different to what was happening. And so, yeah, culture is

1882
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: a real thing. And you had better have a pretty

1883
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: good culture because I can't think of too many instances

1884
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 1: where teams it's happened. It has happened, but I can't

1885
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: think of too many instances where teams with poor cultures

1886
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 1: have succeeded. And that's what's most encouraging about what the

1887
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Bills are doing here, is it's not just for this year.

1888
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: When you build a culture that guys buy into, and

1889
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,759
Speaker 1: it was the case for your teams in the eighties

1890
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: and nineties, like that lives for a while. So it's

1891
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm as encouraged as i've

1892
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: been since you're playing days, since the Glory days. Well,

1893
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: and it's also interesting too because I'm with you, and

1894
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: sometimes you wonder you get into this, this conversation about

1895
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: the chicken and the egg, because all great teams you

1896
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: can point to seem to have that great culture. And

1897
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the question is, of course, do you win games because

1898
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: of the great culture, or do you have great culture

1899
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: because you all of a sudden put it together and

1900
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 1: started winning games and then your culture becomes great. Don't know,

1901
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: don't care, but I know they're they're not very often

1902
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. You've got to have both of them for

1903
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: your team to be considered one of those teams, and

1904
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,600
Speaker 1: why not work for getting getting one for sure? Or

1905
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 1: if you got draft a bunch of high character guys,

1906
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: get there first that way and then and get the

1907
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 1: results that way if you can. You know, you mentioned

1908
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: they draft these high character guys, and Gabriel Davis is

1909
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: obviously one of those guys. And but that's not the

1910
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: only thing he brings to the table. And the type

1911
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: of receiver he could be for the team was also

1912
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: one of the questions he fielded today as well. And

1913
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: here's how Gabe Davis answered the question on the kind

1914
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: of receiver he might be for the Buffalo Bills. One

1915
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: thing say, I know, I know, I'm a bigger receiver.

1916
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm one of the bigger guys on the team. They

1917
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: want me to be that guy that has to make

1918
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: those contested catches. And I feel like when opportunity has

1919
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 1: come my way to make a contested playing in practice,

1920
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I've been coming down with some of the um so

1921
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: I feel like that that was probably one of the

1922
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing that probably caught people out. It was me

1923
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: making contested plays. Um. But again, you know, again, like

1924
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: you said, I'm that humble guy on. You know, this

1925
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: is practice. I'm China, you know, just get better of

1926
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 1: my team and you know, just just getting ready for

1927
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: the year. And I remember as a rookie wide receiver, Kevin,

1928
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: it takes some courage to be a rookie wide receiver

1929
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: and to go out and compete on the field with

1930
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: guys who have been doing it for a handful like

1931
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: a Tredavious White and Micah Hyde, Jordan Poor and go

1932
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: up in a one on one situation, which is kind

1933
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: of one of the drills these guys do. It takes

1934
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 1: some courage to just say, you know what, I'm gonna

1935
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: do it. U Gabe Davis has been doing that. He

1936
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: is a guy who has just stepped up and said

1937
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go as hard as I can

1938
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: go and see if I can compete. And he has

1939
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 1: really impressed somethink some of the older guys on the team.

1940
01:40:54,520 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna play another SoundBite from On about what he

1941
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: thought about what Micah Hyde is him. You know how

1942
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 1: impressed Michael Hyde was with him. But I gotta tell you,

1943
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: a young player coming out of college, I don't care

1944
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: where he played college and step onto an NFL field

1945
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: and just start playing hard. It takes more courage than

1946
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: it sounds like it does. I know these guys play

1947
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot, but Gabe Davis has certainly turned some heads

1948
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: with his ability to compete for fifty fifty balls in

1949
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: training camp, being a kind of guy where they have

1950
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: laid some expectations on him. Most rookies don't have very

1951
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: much very many expectations or pressure put on them. But

1952
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: if you've got a team telling you that, I listen,

1953
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: we want you to be this kind of guy right

1954
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: now eight days into training camp is first one. He's

1955
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: handling it pretty well, it seems, you know, and you

1956
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: could speak to this obviously far better than I Steve.

1957
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: But you know what, isn't it funny when you're on

1958
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 1: a losing team and a young guy comes in and

1959
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: the veterans are maybe sort of looking at him like, oh,

1960
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: who's this young guy? And you go to a winning

1961
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: team and you got a young guy comes in and

1962
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, hey, let's embrace this

1963
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: because you know what, we're ready to win and this

1964
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: guy's only going to make us better. So boy, I've

1965
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: loved what I've heard I've loved what I've read. Can't

1966
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: wait to see this guy on the field. Played in

1967
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 1: a fun system at UCF. They obviously had they dealt

1968
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: with a serious injury to their quarterback a season to go,

1969
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: but he was a guy whose name we called on

1970
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and it's good to hear. I can't

1971
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: believe I went through high character guys and didn't mention

1972
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Trey White, Who's a guy I hope we lock up

1973
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: to a long term deal soon. But yeah, it's been

1974
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 1: pretty neat to hear some of these guys and their

1975
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 1: approach to what it's been here is among this rookie

1976
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: class in twenty twenty. It's interesting you say that was

1977
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: I think back to those teams that I was on

1978
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: that were in the playoffs a lot and in the

1979
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: super Bowl. One of the things that was indicative about

1980
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: that team, and it came from our head coach, Marv Levy.

1981
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: We didn't do any too much hazing of rookies. In fact,

1982
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: we didn't do any at all, and we started to

1983
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 1: take great pride in our ability to treat them include

1984
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: them as equals almost from day one. As soon as

1985
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you get to know them, they were they were treated like, Hey,

1986
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: we want to win. We need you to win, so

1987
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna do what we can to get you ready

1988
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: to help us win. You know, back in the in

1989
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: the days before the eighties when I came in in

1990
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: the seventies and sixties, you would have rookie show talent shows.

1991
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: They'd have their rookies do you know this hazing thing

1992
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: where they'd put on a party for the veterans and

1993
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: they have to do skits and comedy things. They have

1994
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: to get up and sing their fight song. And they

1995
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: still some teams still do that today as a tradition.

1996
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: I have most of the teams I was on never

1997
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: did that because we were too interested in saying, listen,

1998
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: we got a lot of work here to do here,

1999
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: and we'll get to know you through your work ethic.

2000
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: We're here to help you be successful because we need

2001
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: you to be successful. And that seems more of the

2002
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: modern way to do it. I don't I don't want

2003
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: to overstep my bounce saved this for every team, But um,

2004
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: you don't hear as much about rookie amzing as you

2005
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 1: did once because these teams are more ready to include

2006
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 1: these guys into their into their family. A lot quicker

2007
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 1: because it helps them win more games. So that if

2008
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: you want to talk about what culture can mean, that's

2009
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: as big a reason for it as any we said.

2010
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 1: M Gabriel Davis talked about the guys embracing him, and

2011
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde has already spoken about how he feels about

2012
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. And this is what Gabe Davis said about

2013
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde and and their relationship and how they perceived

2014
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: each other on the foot on the practice field. I

2015
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: remember watching Micah Hide when he was at the Packers,

2016
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: and not even obviously it's my first year in the league,

2017
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 1: watching him when I was little with my grandpa. All

2018
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm in the league with him and

2019
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: on the same team. You know, It's just a blessing. Um.

2020
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: That's why I try to not take every single day

2021
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: for granted. I try to improve every single day at

2022
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: a high level. And again it's it's be all words

2023
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: to say how happy I am to be a part

2024
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: of this team and be in the NFL. And I'm

2025
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: just trying to take advantage of every opportunity I have.

2026
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: You talk about high character guys, sometimes they you know,

2027
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: they almost say too much of the right stuff. You

2028
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like, wow that you know

2029
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like he's in a job interview

2030
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: and I get it. He's on it's not probably is

2031
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 1: well versed in the media and all that, but it's

2032
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 1: tough to put any better spin on how Gabe Davis

2033
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: has got to be perceived than the few sound bites

2034
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: we've heard from him just today and plus all the

2035
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: others we've heard from him over the course of the

2036
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: preceding weeks. Just the exact kind of guy you want

2037
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: to draft on your football team. And Steve the other

2038
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: thought that I have, and of course I agree to

2039
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: co sign that one percent. The other thought that I

2040
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: have is it seems to me in the NFL that

2041
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: we all know you got to hit on your first

2042
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,440
Speaker 1: round picks, right. It's it's it's so hard to overcome

2043
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: swinging and missing on those picks, and even really the

2044
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 1: second round anymore, with with the way that players are scouted,

2045
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: and you know the importance on getting those right. But

2046
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: then when you start getting into the third and fourth

2047
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: and fifth round guys and and you're you know, you're

2048
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: not only connecting on these guys, they're they're becoming pivotal

2049
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: pieces of the team. Those are that's where you start

2050
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 1: seeing teams make exponential growths. Like I mean, you know,

2051
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 1: not listen where there's a bill show and I mean

2052
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:36,839
Speaker 1: to to to you know, back the truck over previous regimes.

2053
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: But how many times did we swing and miss on

2054
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 1: first round picks in the past. Now we're connecting on

2055
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: third and was Davis? Davis was a fourth fourth fourth rounder? Yes,

2056
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: fourth rounder. I mean you know, you you nail a

2057
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 1: fourth round pick and you get a guy that could

2058
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:59,839
Speaker 1: potentially be a starting wide receiver at some point. Man.

2059
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean that just speaks to what's happening in the

2060
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 1: front office and the scouting department and all that other stuff.

2061
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: So obviously I love hearing what he's saying and the

2062
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: humility that he's showing, but I'm more excited about what

2063
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: we're seeing on the football field and what that could

2064
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: mean to the team. Yeah, and it's all it's you're right,

2065
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: and they've done it on a number of occasions. You

2066
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: look at Dawson Knox, the third round pick tight end

2067
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: turned into a starting tight end for the Buffalo Bills.

2068
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, a fifth round draft pick who was playing

2069
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 1: when at times during his career here. In Buffalo's short

2070
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: career in Buffalo, he's been playing at a Pro Bowl level.

2071
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 1: So you're right, and you look at teams that went

2072
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. You look back at the Seattle

2073
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: Seahawks will say in twenty twelve, two drafts in a row,

2074
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: they got four starters out of both drafts. It's that's

2075
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,520
Speaker 1: what propels you to be a team like the Seahawks

2076
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: have been over the last decade. They're in the conversation

2077
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: year after year after year. And so you're right. You

2078
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 1: get guys like Gabe Davis who hit all the right

2079
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: buttons in the meeting and tend to think, Wow, what

2080
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 1: a nice young man. The guy can play foot ball,

2081
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 1: and that makes your team better. A guy who is

2082
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna work hard to make himself better and make your

2083
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: football team better as as well. Last thing we got

2084
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Gabe Davis about we'll hear him.

2085
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: A lot has been said about the Bills wide receivers

2086
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: this year. Steph Diggs is in the mix. Cole Beasley

2087
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 1: is virtually a household name around Buffalo, and so is

2088
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: John Brown. These two guys came in last year, both

2089
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: had personal bests and catches and yards last year with

2090
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen as their quarterback, and he made rightly, So

2091
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen should deserve a little credit for that, and

2092
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: those two guys, obviously, with Steph Diggs into the mix,

2093
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: puts the Buffalo Bills in a different place than they

2094
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 1: were a year ago with the wide receivers. But Gabriel

2095
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Davis is a rookie raft pick coming in and this

2096
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: is what he says has been his philosophy about learning

2097
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: from the veteran wide receivers. They're all established guys, for sure,

2098
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I learned every day from these guys

2099
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: in their certain positions, whether you know from across the board, um,

2100
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: but I also know their background as well, and I

2101
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: know that they were in the same situation I was in,

2102
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: if not a worse situation. These guys have all been

2103
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: in the same shoes, and I feel like that's what

2104
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: that's what makes them so helpful and wanting to to

2105
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: to show me how it is to get to their level.

2106
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 1: So I'm just I just want to perform great for them.

2107
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: It's not really I don't want to make a mistake

2108
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: in front of them and and you know, discourage them.

2109
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: But it's like I see the opportunity and I want

2110
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 1: to make them, you know, happy to see a young

2111
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 1: guy making plays by what they're teaching me. So you know,

2112
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: it's all fun. I love playing with these guys. It's

2113
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: not a it's not like I'm scared to, you know,

2114
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: not perform well in front of them. I know I

2115
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: will because I want to put them on my back

2116
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: for sure when it comes time. That's Cabe Davis and uh,

2117
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 1: that's a yeah. It's a humble guy obviously knowing too

2118
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: that he's got some guys that he can learn a

2119
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: lot from and uh, and being willing to admit that

2120
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: he needs to and wants to. It's a good place

2121
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 1: for him to be in certainly too, one of the benefits.

2122
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: And certainly every wide receiver. Every player wants to be

2123
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: on the field all the time. They would love to

2124
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: be a starting guy. But I think Gabe Davis coming

2125
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: in fourth round draft pick, there's no pressure on him

2126
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: to get on the field right away and push one

2127
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: of these other guys off the field or even force

2128
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: the team to put four wides on the field. That

2129
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing great spot for Gabriel Davis to develop.

2130
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: And this has been a coaching staff that's been very

2131
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 1: good at player development as well, So Gabe Davis a

2132
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to be happy about it, but also

2133
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: one of him is that there's no hurry to get

2134
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: him on the field, even if we all feel like

2135
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: he's ready to go right now. Steve, you you listen

2136
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: to him talk, and you know from from all the

2137
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 1: reports that you hear about and that the early returns

2138
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 1: are really good. How in the world did this guy

2139
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: slipped to the fourth round? Right? I mean, you know,

2140
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I like, as someone who was part of a team,

2141
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: you hear a rookie player talking like that, and you're thinking,

2142
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? You tell me what Steve Tasker's thinking

2143
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:07,759
Speaker 1: when a rookie teammate says that, yeah, well it's it's

2144
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 1: exactly what he should do. Because and I'll tell you this,

2145
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: when a guy comes in saying those kind of things

2146
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 1: when he wants to come in and learn, it's like

2147
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: they're like players are really like everybody else. You're flattered

2148
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: when people ask you advice. You're more than happy to

2149
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: share it. You know, you're more than It makes you

2150
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 1: feel like a wise person, you know, I feel like

2151
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: you've got something to offer. That nobody else appreciates. When

2152
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: you get asked for advice, it's a great compliment, and

2153
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: I think most players feel that way, and I think

2154
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: these veterans are really I think it goes a long

2155
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: way towards making the group a close knit group. And

2156
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:46,839
Speaker 1: it also when you get advice from a veteran player,

2157
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: you use the advice and it works for you. The

2158
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: level of trust in the locker room goes up and

2159
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 1: up and up, and it creates a bond between players

2160
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: and across the line of scrimmage that it really does

2161
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: does in the long run help you win games. I

2162
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 1: think that's what you got to remember that this is

2163
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: all about, is trying to win games. And it also

2164
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: says to me, Steve, the quick last quick point I'll make,

2165
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: is it all. I'm listening to Gabriel Davis and I'm

2166
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: hearing a confident guy. Like usually the guys who talk

2167
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: the most and make it the most about them usually

2168
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: are the guys maybe that aren't quite as confident. When

2169
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:29,919
Speaker 1: when you're when you're coming in and acquiescing to a culture,

2170
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: and when you're as confident as you can say, you know,

2171
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm here because I want to raise my level of

2172
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 1: play to to carry these guys on my back at

2173
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: some point. But I'm also willing to learn from what

2174
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 1: they have to say. That's that says maturity and confidence

2175
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,600
Speaker 1: to me. So, man, these three sound bites that I

2176
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 1: I was excited about about Gabriel Davis based on what

2177
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: I'd read from some of the recaps of camp. I

2178
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: hear these sound bites, I'm even more excited, absolutely, And

2179
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: he seems like he's a guy who puts himself in

2180
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: a position at least to be ready to contribute even

2181
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: if he's not called upon because of the depth at

2182
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: the position. Another guy on the list is also sixth

2183
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: round pick Isaiah Hodgins. Now Hodgens is, along with Gabe Davis,

2184
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: two rookies coming in. We had John Brown on a

2185
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: week ago and he said these two rookies have done

2186
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: a better job of digesting an NFL playbook than any

2187
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: two rookies John Brown's ever been around. Isaiah Hodgins was

2188
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: asked about that by the Western New York Meet and

2189
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: here's what Hodgens, the NFL or the Buffalo Bill sixth

2190
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,480
Speaker 1: round draft pick wide receiver, had to say about digesting

2191
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 1: an NFL playbook. He said this today right after practice. Yeah. First,

2192
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, going through the combine process and job process,

2193
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: you know you're kind of, you know, intimidated by it

2194
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: and you think, you know, it's going to be like

2195
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: the worst thing ever and you'll never pick it up.

2196
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: But it's really hasn't been too bad. And I think,

2197
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, all the rookies have done very well, and

2198
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: I think the coaches have done very well taking up

2199
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 1: all those zoom over the whole offsea's been really helping us.

2200
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: And you know that was a big help for me.

2201
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like kind of the playbook

2202
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 1: pretty well right now. And you know that's just a

2203
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: credit to coaches, the players, the vets and everyone who's

2204
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: been helping us out. Yeah, and it's also too because

2205
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: you get into this and so many of these young

2206
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: players are so good at the lower levels that the playbook,

2207
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,919
Speaker 1: the playbook was was structured around them and their talents.

2208
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have to learn anything, but a

2209
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of them didn't have to learn the amount of

2210
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: things they have to learn, even philosophically, even technique wise.

2211
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: They're just so good physically that at the lower levels

2212
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: they stood out because of those physical gifts and when

2213
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: you see like Isaiah Hodgins, even even on the NFL

2214
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: practice field. You go out on the practice field, I

2215
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: called him Ike. I don't even know if anybody calls

2216
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: him like I'm calling him Mike. Ike. Hodgens stands out.

2217
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,839
Speaker 1: The guy is all the six three, he's the tallest

2218
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the roster. He's athletic, he looks great

2219
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: in his uniform. He's one of those guys getting off

2220
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: the bus it's like, Wow, that's your wide receiver. Wow,

2221
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: you guys must be really good. He's that kind of guy.

2222
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: He stands out in the room. And so to have

2223
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: a guy like that come in a lot of times,

2224
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: guys with those kind of gifts size, strength and speed,

2225
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, you know, I'm good enough. You

2226
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: know I don't really need it. And Hodgens and Gabe

2227
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Davis have not taken that attitude at all. They know

2228
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: that there's a lot to learn. They know that they've

2229
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: got to get into the playbook. They know there's techniques, formations,

2230
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 1: route running thoughts that they have to get in and

2231
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: get down before they can even think about being on

2232
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: the football field. And it's really neat to see these

2233
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: guys understand a not only that there is a lot

2234
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: to learn, but be knowing that that if they don't

2235
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: learn it, their career is not going to get off

2236
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: to the kind of start they wanted to get off on.

2237
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: So it's got kudos to these two young guys for

2238
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: knowing being humble enough to know that as good as

2239
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: they have been in their careers, they got a lot

2240
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: to learn. Steve, I want to be really careful with

2241
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do here because I hate making comparisons,

2242
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 1: So forgive forget that I'm comparing these guys as individuals.

2243
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: But in the course of having this conversation, I'm just

2244
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: quickly going through some of the Bill's draft classes from

2245
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: the mid eighties, and I'm looking at Frank Reich as

2246
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: a third round pick, Andre Reid's a fourth round pick,

2247
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Mark Pike, seventh round pick, Leon Seal's fourth round, Keith

2248
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 1: mckeller ninth round, House Ballard eleventh round, Jeff Wright eighth round.

2249
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: The point that I'm trying to make, and I'm not

2250
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: trying to draw the comparison between this team and the

2251
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: teams that you played on, But the point that I'm

2252
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: trying to make is great teams are made when you

2253
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: can hit on guys in later rounds, And so will

2254
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Hodgens even make the team. I have no idea. It

2255
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: certainly sounds like Gabriel Davis is going to make the team.

2256
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: I know Devin Singletary has made the team. When you're

2257
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: nailing these middle round picks, man, the value of that,

2258
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: for so many reasons is great. And so I'm encouraged

2259
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: to hear everything about this rookie class because it sounds

2260
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: like another really good one. Absolutely, and you've got to

2261
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 1: find these guys. And some of it is economics. So

2262
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 1: we've talked about how teams are now are signing these

2263
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: guys to these big deals, and teams, at least from

2264
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 1: their actions, don't really seem concerned about the cap shrinking

2265
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: next year. They can certainly roll over whatever cap room

2266
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: they have this year, and maybe we'll see some economic

2267
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: decisions made later in training camp as they release guys

2268
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 1: and get some cap space, that kind of thing. But

2269
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think keeping these young rookies is all

2270
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,839
Speaker 1: about the economics of them being on their rookie contracts.

2271
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: Certainly you can make the case for quarterbacks and those

2272
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of things, and those those positions where when they

2273
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: do get their second contract, it is going to be

2274
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: a hit on the cap. You know, Matt Milano, he's

2275
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 1: not going to break the bank, even even if he's

2276
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: the top played player at his position. Same thing with

2277
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Michaeh Hi, Jordan Poi. The safeties, defensive tackles something. They're

2278
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: not gonna make twenty five million bucks a year now,

2279
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: Corners and quarterbacks, safeties, I guess now maybe get into

2280
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: that wide receivers can you know can make that argument.

2281
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Not too many other team other players in the league

2282
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: can say, hey, I need twenty twenty two million bucks

2283
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: a year or you're not gonna get my services. The

2284
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: salary cap has become seemingly a formality, even in a

2285
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 1: year when it's gonna go down. So you get these

2286
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 1: young players in here. They're making the team and contributing

2287
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 1: because they're good football players, not because it's some economic choice.

2288
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: And if you can get better, and when you when

2289
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: these guys make the team, it's because somebody else couldn't

2290
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: they played better than somebody else's. They're not keeping these

2291
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: guys because they're cheap. Sometimes you can make that argument,

2292
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: but this regime doesn't have to make any of those decisions.

2293
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: They they're financially secure, they've got plenty of cap room.

2294
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: They can like the number. The buzzle guy that's going

2295
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 1: around about an economic cut is Trent Murphy. It's gonna

2296
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: seven or eight eight and a half million bucks this

2297
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: year and everything's wow. I don't know if he's worth

2298
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: eight and a half. They don't care. They can keep him.

2299
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott does not have to make salary cap decisions

2300
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: at cutdown day. Now. They can and they may, but

2301
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 1: they're they're not backed into a corner with twenty million

2302
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 1: dollars a cap space. These guys are making the team

2303
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: because they're good enough to make the team. And that's

2304
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 1: why this team, after three years of this regime, is

2305
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: sitting on the precipice of being one of those Teams'

2306
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: is like, man, these guys are gonna win the division.

2307
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna win double digit game. They were

2308
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, they're better this year. That's

2309
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: the reasons because they don't back themselves into a corner

2310
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 1: where they say, well, we gotta cut Starlow Tulay, and

2311
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: we gotta cut Trent Murphy, we gotta cut what other

2312
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 1: other player? Because because the salary cap reasons. They are

2313
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: not at that point because everything else is working so well.

2314
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: So these young players who are making the team, they're

2315
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: making it because they're good enough to make it, not

2316
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 1: because the team wants to get rid of some high

2317
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 1: priced guy who perhaps is not quite living up to

2318
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: his contract. And that's been the real difference I think

2319
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 1: in this organization and staying inside the lines financially giving

2320
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 1: themselves a freedom to keep the best players no matter

2321
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: what they cost. I think that's a fun place to be.

2322
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 1: How how refreshing is that, Steve Right? I mean it's

2323
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: and it's a product of putting yourself in this situation

2324
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 1: by some of the moves that they made a few

2325
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: years ago by getting rid of guys who Marcel Darius

2326
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 1: didn't work out, you know what that was. That was

2327
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow at the time. But you know,

2328
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: you think the franchise is better now by after making

2329
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: that move, or or Sammy Watkins too. So again, I'm

2330
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: not part of the PR department now with the team,

2331
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: but I really am. I am. There aren't too many

2332
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 1: moves that I haven't been on board with. I think

2333
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I think the front office has done a tremendous job.

2334
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Here we are we're still asking you,

2335
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 1: our listeners and our viewers as well on MSG what

2336
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: does Josh need to do to silence the critics in

2337
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We'll read a little more from the tweet

2338
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: sheet coming back. Maybe we'll get to some NFL true

2339
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: falls in the next half hour. We're also got what

2340
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 1: have we learned? Coming up? Also in the next half hour,

2341
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Kevin Conner is coming at you from

2342
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is One Bill's Live and this

2343
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

2344
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 1: Seve Tasker, Kevin Connor here with you until the top

2345
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: of the hour three o'clock. Got a lot going on

2346
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 1: in the show, a lot of soundbites from Isaiah Hodgens

2347
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 1: and also from Gabe Davis. We also had Kim Jones

2348
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: from NFL Network on this show, and we also asked you,

2349
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 1: our listeners, what Josh has to do to silence the

2350
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: critics in twenty twenty. What kind of season does he

2351
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 1: have to have? What kind of season do the Bills

2352
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 1: have to have? What do you think has to happen

2353
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: for Josh to be above all the criticism he's had

2354
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: he has taken during his career so far. But it's

2355
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 1: time now for NFL True false, brought to you by

2356
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and cheese. All right, Kevin,

2357
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 1: this is I know you're probably not familiar with this,

2358
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: but here's how it works. I'm gonna read a statement

2359
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 1: and you can put it into context in any way

2360
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 1: you want, but say if it's true or is it false.

2361
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple, straightforward. Are you ready? I'm ready. Let's go.

2362
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 1: All right, here we go NFL true false Number one,

2363
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 1: The NFL should pump crowd noise into stadiums. Actually, it's

2364
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good thing for you to ask. You you're

2365
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 1: in the broadcast industry just like I am. What do

2366
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 1: you think should they pump that into the stadiums? Now,

2367
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: this is not the broadcast, This is into the stadiums.

2368
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 1: What do you think should they do that or not?

2369
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: True false? I'm I'm in favor of it to a point.

2370
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I will tell you I'm not a fan of the

2371
02:02:55,920 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: virtual fans, which we've seen on some broadcasts, the computer

2372
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 1: generated images of quote unquote people, the audio I'm okay

2373
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: with though, Steve, I'm also okay with with hearing what

2374
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: it's like on an NFL field. You know, you lived it,

2375
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. I don't. So for me,

2376
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 1: it brings me even more into the game than that

2377
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: I have been in the past. But I will acknowledge

2378
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 1: that when if, especially in the NFL, if there's a

2379
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 1: big touchdown and it's kind of quiet or it's just

2380
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: the sideline, maybe you do need that. So I will

2381
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: say in this case, true, I would say it's interesting question,

2382
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: really because the curiosity I have over what it's going

2383
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: to sound like without fans in this moment kind of

2384
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 1: outweighs going you know, doing it fake? You know, and

2385
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't. But here's the thing, after about two games,

2386
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 1: I might be okay, I'm done with it, Like I

2387
02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: wish the fans were there, you know what I mean.

2388
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 1: So for right now, I'm with you. I'm really curious

2389
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 1: as to what it's going to sound like with no

2390
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: fans in the stands. I want to hear the ambient

2391
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 1: yelling and screaming that goes on the offensive line calls,

2392
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 1: the defensive line calls, the secondary yelling, coverages, the quarterback.

2393
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Of course, that we can hear, you know, a lot

2394
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 1: of times anyway. But I'm really interested to hear what

2395
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: it is like when it is quiet in the stadium.

2396
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to hear what that game sounds like. Not

2397
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 1: only that, but you'll you're gonna hear sideline you out

2398
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 1: yells too. You're gonna hear the noise between what happens

2399
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 1: after a tuck tackle and those guys got get up

2400
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 1: john at each other. And it probably won't be fit

2401
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:42,480
Speaker 1: for broadcast. And I'm you know what I mean. I mean,

2402
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna get some of that too. They'll get some

2403
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: they'll get some words in there that you know you

2404
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't get in. But I'm way into that. I'm way

2405
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 1: into seeing letting this game be stripped down to its

2406
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: essentials and see it I thicking hold water and hold

2407
02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 1: my attention. I don't like hockey that way. I watched

2408
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 1: some hockey games and it's like it's not that great.

2409
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, I missed the crowd. But I do want

2410
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 1: to see some NFL games. And I don't think there's

2411
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: any reason to pump it in for the players into

2412
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 1: the stadium on the broadcast. You can sprinkle it in

2413
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: nobody has to know. But on the field, for the players,

2414
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 1: don't waste your time. They don't need They practice every

2415
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 1: day with no fans. They played at lower levels of

2416
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: football with no fans. There's no need for it for

2417
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: the players. So pumping it into the stadium, no, that's false.

2418
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 1: You don't need to pump that into the stadium. The broadcast,

2419
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:37,600
Speaker 1: that's another story. But I'm really interested to see this

2420
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 1: game broken down to its essentials. I want to hear

2421
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 1: it when it's silent. I think it'd be really I

2422
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 1: think it's really going to be interesting to hear that.

2423
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 1: Not normal, but really interesting. So that's my take. I

2424
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's false. They should not. You

2425
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 1: should not pump crowd noise into the stags, all right,

2426
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 1: NFL true false? Number two the Dolphins. Out of all

2427
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 1: eight teams who finished last in their division last year,

2428
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have the best chance to go from worst

2429
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:12,280
Speaker 1: to first. True or false? I would have. I would

2430
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 1: have to dig in and look at the standings and

2431
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 1: see every other team. I'll tell you this. Here we go.

2432
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 1: It's Miami. In the ANFC, it's Miami, Cincinnati, Jacksonville and

2433
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and in the NFC side, it's Washington, Detroit, Carolina,

2434
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: and Arizona. I'm gonna say false. I don't think the

2435
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins are there where some of those other teams are yet.

2436
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 1: The Teddy Bridgewater story, by the way, is going to

2437
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 1: be a fascinating one to keep an eye on Carolina.

2438
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, Steve. You know, it's

2439
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:53,400
Speaker 1: sacrilegious to say this, but I like what the Dolphins

2440
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 1: have done. I mean, they went out and they spent

2441
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 1: money on guys. They were aggressive in free agency, and

2442
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: I really like Flora's and you know, for as bad

2443
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 1: as they were at the start of last year, go

2444
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 1: back and look at the numbers to how they finished

2445
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: up the second half of the year, and the Dolphins

2446
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:11,200
Speaker 1: were a totally different team. They were. They were a

2447
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 1: competitive team the second half of the season last year.

2448
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that they're that they're as good

2449
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 1: as some of the other teams that you mentioned, but

2450
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 1: they're trending in the right direction. Yeah, I agree with you,

2451
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 1: and I think you go back and look at where

2452
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, they finished five and four in this last

2453
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: nine games of their season last year, and that's about

2454
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 1: right for a new head coach. New defense, new philosophy,

2455
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: and they also had to go through addition by subtraction.

2456
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: Remember Minca Fitzpatrick and all of the things that happened

2457
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins roster. They went through some of the

2458
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: same stuff that the Buffalo Bills had to go through

2459
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 1: with Marcel Darius and Sammy Watkins and those kind of players.

2460
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 1: So when they kind of started to do that and

2461
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: the players and the culture in the locker room decided, hey,

2462
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 1: this is not going anywhere. We got to start doing

2463
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 1: better and we're going forward this way, things started to

2464
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: turn around. And that's there's your you know, part of

2465
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 1: your answer, where does culture win games? Well, Brian Floor

2466
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: is instilling that culture and it took a long time

2467
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 1: to do it. But when things started to change, they

2468
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 1: changed for the better and they won five out of

2469
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 1: the last nine games. So I'm kind of with you.

2470
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they're there yet. In fact, if I'm

2471
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna say it, I'm gonna say false to that. I'm

2472
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: going to say the best team that has a chance

2473
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:30,680
Speaker 1: to go from worse to first, I would say it's

2474
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 1: more about Jacksonville than it is the Dolphins. Jacksonville with Indianapolis,

2475
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Houston. For this reason, Houston is not going

2476
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: to be the same team this year. DeAndre Hopkins makes

2477
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 1: too too big a difference on that team. JJ Watt

2478
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 1: is now an old pass rusher and DeAndre Hopkins is gone,

2479
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watskins. Watkins is not going to have that same

2480
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: offense around him that he did a year ago. They

2481
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: aren't going to struggle. And then you look down the

2482
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 1: rest of that division. With Tennessee, I've long said Bryan

2483
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 1: Tannehill is going to be closer to what he was

2484
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:09,320
Speaker 1: in Miami than he what he was last half of

2485
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: last season. I don't think he's going to carry that

2486
02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 1: team he's I don't think he's gonna complete seventy percent

2487
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: of his passes throughout a sixteen game season for the

2488
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Indianapolis with Philip Rivers, I love Frank Reich,

2489
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 1: He's a friend of mine, and I think they're gonna

2490
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 1: be better and they may be a team that keeps

2491
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 1: Jacksonville from going I think they're the team that may

2492
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 1: keep Jacksonville from going from worst to first. But I

2493
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 1: think that division, with so many question marks with the

2494
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 1: other three teams, I think Jacksonville could if Gardner Minshue

2495
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 1: turns into something other than what we think he is,

2496
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,880
Speaker 1: and their defense does step up and Doug Marone can

2497
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 1: keep it together down there, that's the I think it's

2498
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: because of the rest of the division that Jacksonville has

2499
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 1: a chance maybe to hang in there and get to

2500
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,360
Speaker 1: the top. And in the NFC, I think maybe Washington,

2501
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Washington has a chance to catch lightning

2502
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:00,960
Speaker 1: in a bottle with a new you're kind of a

2503
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 1: new attitude down there and the name change and all that.

2504
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 1: The Cowboys got a new head coach, Washington's got a

2505
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 1: new head coach, the Giants have a new head coach.

2506
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:14,200
Speaker 1: And Philadelphia Eagle that's the team. I mean, if Philadelphia

2507
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 1: Eagles stumbles in any way shape or for him, if

2508
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: if if their quarterback who now I'm blanking on, yeah,

2509
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. If Carson Wentz can't get it done, yeah,

2510
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 1: who else is gonna win that division? Why not Washington?

2511
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they do catch lightning in a bottle. Maybe Dwayne

2512
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 1: Haskins is a little better than we thought he was.

2513
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they do have the reason to have faith in him,

2514
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: with the guys who see him every day. So we'll see.

2515
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:42,440
Speaker 1: But Yeah, Miami Dolphins. I think we saw where they

2516
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 1: were headed, maybe at the second half of last year.

2517
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can say they're the team

2518
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 1: that is ready for that yet. Certainly they have some

2519
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 1: pieces in place, no question, but we'll see. I think

2520
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:55,839
Speaker 1: those other two teams in Jacksonville and perhaps in Washington

2521
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 1: have a better chance to do it. Steve Tasker along

2522
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: with Kevin Connors, got more segment left in the show.

2523
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: We've got What have We Learned? Coming up right after

2524
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 1: the break One Bill's live on Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll

2525
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 1: be right back. What Have We Learned brought to you

2526
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:25,840
Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of the

2527
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. NFL Networks. Kim Jones was on our show today.

2528
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 1: She's been watching the Buffalo Bills in the last couple

2529
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 1: of days, and she had this to say about how

2530
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 1: the Bills look during practice. It felt like I was

2531
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 1: watching a team that's been together longer than it has

2532
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 1: and to me that the only way to look at

2533
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 1: that is obviously a very good sign. I mean, this

2534
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:51,680
Speaker 1: looks like a group where some veterans as well as

2535
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 1: some rookies took the virtual period very seriously, it looks

2536
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 1: like a team that knows it can be good. And

2537
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 1: what I say when I say that, I mean the

2538
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 1: way they carry themselves. You just kind of watch a

2539
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 1: team and say, these guys could be onto something. And

2540
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 1: then there are other teams you can watch where you say,

2541
02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 1: this team could could really have some growth moments this year.

2542
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: So I look at the Bills as a team that

2543
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 1: looks in my opinion for August twenty five, in this

2544
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 1: year in particular, it looks pretty fine tuned to me.

2545
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 1: That was Kim Jones of NF Hell Network talking to

2546
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: us earlier in the program. You can go back and

2547
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 1: listen to that on the Bills app or Buffalo bills

2548
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 1: dot com. Thanks again too to Kevin Connors, who's going

2549
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 1: to join me again tomorrow noon to three as co host. Kevin,

2550
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 1: we started out the show with a little Q and a.

2551
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:41,640
Speaker 1: Ye had all these questions about old Bills guys. You

2552
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:43,680
Speaker 1: know you grew up with those those Bills teams on

2553
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 1: Long Island. You were a pilgrim in an unholy land

2554
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,840
Speaker 1: as a Bills fan, and he had all these questions.

2555
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 1: Will tip We'll pick that. I'll give you a chance

2556
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 1: to ask some more questions of an old guy tomorrow,

2557
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you what you tell young

2558
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 1: broadcasters as well? Right, I mean you get must get

2559
02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:01,000
Speaker 1: asked all the time working as an anchor for ESPN

2560
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 1: Sports Center. I mean, you guys are the kind of

2561
02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 1: the gold standard in sports broadcasting, and kids really want

2562
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 1: to know how you got there. Well, I will promise

2563
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:12,960
Speaker 1: you this, Steve. I will answer anything that you have

2564
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 1: and I'm going to promise our listeners this. I want

2565
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 1: a deep dive into Super Bowl twenty five. I want

2566
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 1: to I want to get more than just the what

2567
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:24,480
Speaker 1: are your memories of the game. I want to walk

2568
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 1: through that with you, and I want to hear much

2569
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 1: more about the game, which to me is the best

2570
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:33,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that I've ever watched. So we'll look forward

2571
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: to that tomorrow. Yeah, it's I'll tell you this. I

2572
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 1: don't remember too much about it, and I know I'm

2573
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 1: like a lot of the guys who played on that.

2574
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 1: This might be the first answer to your question. I've

2575
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 1: never seen that game other than the time the film,

2576
02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 1: never studied it. So there you go. Well, talk about

2577
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. We start at noon tomorrow. Stick with us.

2578
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of guys coming on the show

2579
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 1: after practice. Post practice sound from all the players that

2580
02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 1: are available to the Western New York media. You'll hear

2581
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: from them tomorrow here on One Bill's Live Noon to three.

2582
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Connor, Steve Tasker, thanks for being with us. Everybody.

2583
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:05,560
Speaker 1: This has been Buffalo Bill's Radio