WEBVTT - Carlos Mendoza Fired, Reaction and Fallout | 581 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.720 Well, Mets fans, It's finally happened. Carlos Mendoza has been 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.120 fired as the manager of the New York Mets. It's 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.760 about a month and a half too late, which that's 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.560 probably the most frustrating part of this. But Andy Green 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.840 has been announced as the interim manager. Shot out my 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.400 dad for being first to that, calling Andy Green all 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:28.920 the way back in April when the Mets really were 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.000 starting to stink it up. Andy Green could be the 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.600 guy shot Big Mark. But Carls Mendoza error is over, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.400 and it was not a good one. No, it was 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.040 not a good one. There's We're gonna have two kind 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.360 of parts that we talk about with Carlos mendoza firing. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.720 One is the fact that I think he was a 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.120 poor manager. Who is the fact that there's no way 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.680 this was all his fault. Both of those things can 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.199 be true right now. I think if you take a 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.520 scroll on Twitter, you would think Carlos Mendoza like spent 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.040 his free time. I don't know, like mother Teresa. Yeah, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.760 like I can't even imagine what he was doing that 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.360 maybe we don't know about. Maybe the there's a lot 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.120 he was doing that we'll know about. Maybe that'll all 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.399 come out. I'm excited for what's going to come out. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.280 Can't because now we're going to get some great anonymous 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.520 quotes sourcing articles. Whenever Will Salmon or Anthony Dicomo decides 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.760 to write the next book, that's going to be amazing 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.440 with great quotes from Carlos Mendoza here. But I think 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.840 that's the story, is that even even the game last night, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.959 let's talk anecdotally, just briefly, there was a golden opportunity 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.600 in the fifth inning. Left handed Matthew Boyd is being 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.680 taken out of the game because Mark Fiantro's coming to 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.679 the play. Mark Fiento's for all of his sports, demolishes 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.120 left handed pitching, absolutely demolishes them. There is a runner 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.199 on first I think Solo has just drawn a walk 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.920 or had a single, bringing the righty to face Fientos, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.800 and you have Jared Young sitting on the bench. Jared 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.160 Young has become the starter for this team against all 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.880 right handed pitching at first base sometimes the age sometimes 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.920 corn rautfield and the situation where every single game where 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.600 one of the pitcher with that hands and it starts 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.080 the game and Jared Young gets the playing time, gets 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.480 the played appearances he does. In this situation, Marfanti is 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.360 a horrible at bat, go into the field the first play. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.000 The next inning, Ryan Breshow doesn't make the best throw 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.400 from shortstop, which again he's starting a short stop anyway, 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.959 and Mark Fianto's on a pick, closed his eyes, moves 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.480 his head out of the way, and just lets the 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.239 ball clank off the heel of his glove. Let's a 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.720 big inning happen, Mets to lose the game, and then 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.959 Jared Jones comes up next time. Mark Fiantros comes to 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.760 the plate against the right hander hits a home run. Yeah. Now, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.600 the process we've always talked about with Carlos Mendoze, even 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.200 when things went well, was head scratching. We didn't think 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.200 he was a particularly good in game manager. It felt 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.120 like a lot of times there was the feel was 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.160 very broken. It didn't seem like the feel ever particularly 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.400 made sense. We really hated how much he shuffled around 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.560 the lineup so much in terms of where guys were hitting, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.919 and he loved pressing the button of oh you're struggling, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.480 now you go to the leadoff spot. There's a lot 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.720 of things that can be said about Carlos Mendoza's tenure 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.160 as a manager. But I think ultimately, at the end 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.280 of the day, the Mets were extremely disappointing as an organization, 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.919 as a team performance wise when Carlos Mendoz was on 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.160 the field. And I know a lot of people are 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.880 going to bring up twenty twenty four, but I think 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.560 it's really important to remember that it took a Latin 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.520 pop star and JD Martinez getting onto this team for 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.080 the Mets to completely turn it around. That beginning of 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.960 the season was an absolute disaster. There's too many ebbs 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.640 or ups and downs. It's not an ebb and flow 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.520 because that's a little bit different, but there's too much 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.519 up and down. It was too much of a roller coaster. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.720 Carlos Mendoza was extremely steady with his emotions, but in 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.960 terms of performance, the Mets were anything but that. Yes, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:28.880 and kind of like you said, even the magical year 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.600 twenty twenty four, this team started poorly. The Mets didn't 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.120 have a consistent season under Carlos Mendoza, and maybe that's 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.960 kind of futile to expect a consistent season. Baseball is 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.000 a game built on randomness. One hundred and sixty two 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.200 games in the season. It just never felt like the 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.400 team really responded to him in a way that was 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.960 beneficial to winning. I think they responded to him a 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.720 lot as a person. As a man, I think they 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.760 respected him and really liked him as that seems like 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.960 a great dude. Like all the stuff that we say 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.400 about him as a manager has nothing to do with 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.880 Carlos Mendoza the person. And I don't think this team 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.360 ever quit on Carlos Mendoza. I never saw blatant issues 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.520 with effort, even in the disaster game on Wednesday night 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.520 that we gave you guys emergency episode after last time, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:07.880 it was one of the worst baseball games we've ever 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.280 seen a team play. It wasn't effort, it was sucking. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.960 Big difference there, huge difference. It was being bad at baseball, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.800 not not wanting to play baseball. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:15.360 Yeah. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.640 I think if there was ever something to talk about 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.840 in terms of the players and Mendoza, the connection between 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.480 the two, it just felt like there was a lack 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.640 of preparedness at times. It felt like this team played hard, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.280 but sometimes they weren't ready to play the game that 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.960 was in front of them. Whether it was the preparedness 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.719 at the plate for the pitchers that are coming into 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.200 the game, or defensive positioning, or even just something again 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.960 as simple as there was six errors in a baseball game. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.840 That doesn't happen at the little league level in games, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.800 and that happened for a professional baseball team. The players 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.360 were not put in situations to be the most advantageous 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.560 or successful. I don't think they're the most prepared. I 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.040 don't think they were the sharpest. And at some point 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.000 it does have to fall on the manager and for 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.040 everybody saying, well, David Stearns, David Stearns, David Stearns, we'll 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.839 talk about that a little bit more later. He's not 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.480 going to fire him, So the manager is always going 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.440 to be the first pin to fall. Now, all the 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.720 pressure knows go to David Stearns about what this team 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.240 can look like moving forward. But Carlos Mendoz, I think 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.159 we can objectively say did not do a good job 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.120 as the manager of the New York Mets. He's two 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.080 hundred and six and one ninety nine. Totally. Both guys 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.560 did the poor job heading into this season, absolutely true. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.400 And I do think that there's something about organizational structure here. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.120 This isn't Mets specific. There is everywhere where. The manager 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.640 is going to have to eat a lot of shit 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.680 for the executive because the executive built the roster. The 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.320 mager can just play the roster, and then the executive 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.640 probably can have to eat some shit for the owner 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.600 because we don't know exactly the directives they're getting from 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.080 up top. Apparently there's non dishes. Everything goes together, so 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.919 you're always eating shit for the person above you. So 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.840 I guess that also gives you more slack, which is 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.760 why I kind of thought that we might have gone 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.960 through this whole season. Mendoza may have not gotten fired, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.479 But what we say from Harpers Hits the other day, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.200 like all that shit was happening, and Mendoz looking numb 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.560 on the top step like he did kind of look 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.840 numb for the last month. I think he knew he 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.320 was a dead man walking. He looked this entire season. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.359 He looks him last year too, And I feel like 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.440 at times like you do want that steady hand, you 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.719 want that e and keel guy, right, But for a 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.919 team that so desperately seemed to need a spark so 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.760 many different times, even in the season of twenty twenty four, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.159 their most successful season that they had. You can point 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.320 to a moment where they literally had this huge spark, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.640 this this massive thing happened and it turned things around. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.080 And it seems like this team and this organization, whether 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.240 for good or bad, needs that. And Mendoza is not 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:24.360 that guy either. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:24.960 No. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.039 I mean, but also, are there that many guys like 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.200 that in the league anymore? Are there many raw round 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.880 managers left? Might not be? I mean, I think Pat 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.640 Murphy's a guy who can get some people go, and 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.960 I think he's got to. He's also a big softy. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.120 He well, yeah, he's a softy. But I do think 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.520 like the and something that we've talked about, and maybe 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.120 me so more so than that, is I don't necessarily 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.160 know how much of like a leader of men Carlos 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.920 Mendoza is. 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As a manager with 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.800 fields manager knows what the trust his gut turns out, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.360 that's a hard thing to rely on over and over again. Yes, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.040 and we'll probably never really know, or at least until 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.800 the articles come out next Monday, about what the spread 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.080 was in lineups and decision making processes between the front 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.440 office and the manager here. But there were a lot 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:51.840 of decisions that were made, and we talked to them 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.800 about you with you guys every single week that were like, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.319 there's no one who would make that decision if they 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.400 had numbers in front of them. It helps career in 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.160 twenty twelve, twenty five, coming in out part of the 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.880 All Star Break, first pitcher out of the All Star 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.040 Break in a close game, Alex Carrio, and again things 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.800 like not pinch hitting Mark Fianto's against the ride of 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.480 the day before, things like you said, having Mark Fiandas 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.760 in the lineup, like it seems like maybe that could 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.640 have been a sticking point as well, sticking with your 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.600 guy Mark Fianto's because you were there, you were his 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.160 manager for the breakout season, and you're hoping that guy 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.319 comes back. I could see that having been a pressure point, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.520 a wedge between Carlos Mendoza and David Stearns, while also 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.480 understanding that probably a lot of these moves did come 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.080 from David Stearns. We'll never know about all the horrible 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.200 lefty lineups the Andy of Bania at the Austin Slater 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.120 time in May, like, we don't know who was making 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.640 those decisions. I'm assuming that was David Stearns. There's probably 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.800 some kind of conversation about what was happening lineup every 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.080 single day, but just regardless, it was time for this 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.640 to happen. Yeah, No, it was time, and I think 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.439 it was time A month ago might have been a 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.880 time almost two months ago. Might have been time. By 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.400 the end of last season, when the Mets had an 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.079 absolutely catastrophic second half collapse and couldn't get anything going. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.319 At the end of the day, Carlos Mendoza started off 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.920 with an absolutely bang, and it's been worse and worse 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.240 and worse and worse ever since. And he just simply 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.040 cannot be the manager of the New York Mets any longer. No, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.080 he's not the manager of New York Mets any longer. No, No, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.360 it's Andy Green now. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:11.720 No. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.520 And quick recap of Andy Green's credentials here right off 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.840 to Wikipedia. He led the Missola Osprey to the Pioneer 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.440 League Championship of twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, led the Mobile 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.400 Bay Bears to consecutive first second half titles, Southern League 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.640 Manager of the Year twenty fifteen. Guys first job in 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.120 the Major League bench their base coach at Diamondbacks. Then 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.320 he was the Padres manager for a few years. He 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.480 was don't look at their records, don't look at their records. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:36.920 Not a very good time. But he was the first, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.120 wasn't he the first Preller manager? The second he might 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.680 have been, Yeah, and that twenty nineteen team that would 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.839 have been Tatis, right, that would have been Tatis Rokie year. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.760 That twenty fifteen team, that was when they went ballistic 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.200 though they had the first crazy offseason with Preller. Yeah 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.760 he yeah, and he came in for twenty sixteen Andy Green, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.440 that was his first year managing the Padres. Oh yeah, okay, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.319 so maybe it was the second the second Preler year 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.640 after the team completely fell apart into fifteen and he 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.040 had to trade everybody that retrade everybody. Then he was 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.160 fired from that job. And then he was a bench 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.240 coach for the Cubs, and then he's been in our 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.880 front office. Yeah. No, he's been working player development side, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.560 I believe, senior VP of player development. Yes, and he 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.560 has experience. People you know, sometimes don't like these first 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.800 time managers, even though a lot of these the ones 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.320 I know he's not, so there you go, can't be 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.320 mad about that. He's also interim in the season's over, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.400 so whatever. Andy Green was probably just the guy who 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.920 wanted to manage his team, honestly, right, And this probably 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.559 is about one Andy Green having a good relationship with 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.679 David Stearns. These two guys working together closely, with Green 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.600 being the VP of player development is probably also going 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.320 to be about Green now in the second half of 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.920 this team, playing this roster in a player development style. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.320 I was going to say, developing the players at the 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.959 major league level, which is something that we have seen 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.880 some inconsistencies with for the Mets, especially with just playing 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.120 time for some of these guys that are trying to develop. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.480 And this this season is over Patent Lee speaking, and 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.760 we can say that very openly, especially after getting just 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.040 swept by the Cubs, after losing two straight to the Phillies. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.080 This latest six game losing streak the official final nail 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.959 in the coffin absolutely no chance this team makes a 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.680 playoff run. So this is about seeing who's going to 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.120 be here in twenty twenty seven, who's real and who's fake. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.920 This is the last gasp of air for Brett Baty 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.040 and Ryan Marazio still with the final options definitely as 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.760 trade chips. This is seeing what's going what's going with Bobaschet, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.960 What are you going to do? How goods Jared Young, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.719 what's gonna happen with Eric Wagerman, Whether we gonna get 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.280 out of bench and you wing? No, I'm serious, because 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.440 that's it's actually going those guys are actually absolute candidates 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:37.320 for the roster next season. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.600 I know. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.000 It's just it's just insane to say out loud, like 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.320 we're talking about the twenty twenty six Mets and I 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.960 heard you just say out of your mouth on video. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.880 Gotta see what Eric Wagaman could look like. It's an 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.320 insane world we live. And yeah, to the game yesterday 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.000 and everything changed on the dime, Like those two guys 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.400 should be a first base right now. It should be 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.720 no more. Marek Viento's should not play again. Mark Vianto's 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.280 can definitely play against lefties because he still hits them well, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.680 but there has to be a l a lot of 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.040 manicuring of when he comes in out of games because 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.880 he can't hit righties and he can't play defense at 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.240 any position. And again, that may have been the final 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.240 nail in the coffin, say in terms of Carls Mendoz's 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.680 decision making, because I was there with my whole family. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.720 It's like, why in the world's Mark fiancee is getting 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.560 to that bad against rity. There just can't be a 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.680 reason for this. No, it did it again from a 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:25.000 process standpoint, it made absolutely zero sense. But yeah, Carls 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.079 Mendoza's and it wasn't good, should we? So we switch 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:33.439 the conversation now to the sentiment online. Yeah, definitely, bullshit's 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.760 going on on the internet right now, just patently speaking bullshit. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.560 You're seeing every beat reporter, every media person and this 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.560 and that, like you mentioned early on, like was Carlos 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.640 Mendoza mother Teresa, Because the way that his firing now 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.600 is being talked about in the media when it's so 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.120 obvious he should have been fired. It was obvious a 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.439 month ago. This team lost twelve straight games, they're fifteen 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.720 games out of first place in the NL East. Like, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.560 there has never been a more obvious firing than this 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.120 one right now. And it's being talked about as if 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.640 the team had all the success in spite or not, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.040 because I shouldn't say in spite all the success in 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:17.040 Carlos Mendoza was a part of every reason for that. Yes. Also, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.200 these are people in the media who had dated day 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.280 relationships with Carlos Mendoza. Yes. And when your friend gets 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.720 fired from like the coolest job your friend, the best 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.320 job your friend's ever had, you're like, oh, I feel 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.520 bad for my friend. And also there is like I 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.840 said before, there's the push and pull between Mendoza and 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.040 David Stearns, where David Stearns freezes every single one of 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.200 these media people out consistently, doesn't seem to really give 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.920 them anything, seems he seems that he had horrible answers 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.160 the other day. He seems to make their job more 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.800 difficult on absolutely not even day by day basis, hour 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.680 by hour basis. So it makes tons of sense to 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.560 absolutely cop for the guy that you liked more, that 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.160 treated you with more respect than the other guy. I 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.680 do love. Just also, hearing how David Peterson talks with 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.920 the Cubs starts six weeks ago, we didn't hear a 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.680 peep about it, you know, drives these media people absolutely 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.240 insane that they can't get a morsel of a leak 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.320 from the New York Mets front office. A big reasons 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.040 for part David sertins. But the thing that does bother 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.080 me again is the revisionist history stuff that also goes 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.160 on here, like John Haman going on MLB Network and 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.440 mentioning incorrectly unless he was being tongue in cheek, but 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.880 I don't think he has that kind of juice to 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.800 him where he said Luis Robert, Well, Luis Robert and 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:28.200 Jorge Polanco have never been injured. I surely that has 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.320 to be sarcastic, but he didn't have a sarcastic tone 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.920 to it. Then also talking about how the Mets were 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.160 given in Carlos Bondoza was given an awful roster this year, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.080 when I'm pretty sure we have articles from Hayman in 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.520 the offseason talking about all the great moves that they made, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.760 everybody doing this and even passing did it yesterday to 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.520 about that the entire Mets season has been at Litany 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.040 in an error, when I believe Jeff passion and talked 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.760 about how the Mets were like one of the five 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.720 teams that could win a World Series this year. It's 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.240 just it's crazy how there is a lot of revisionist 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.720 history when this happens, and we've seen it happen with 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.640 these guys too, like when Jared Porter got hired and 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.120 stuff like that. But Nicky, Yeah, yeah, at the end 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.480 of the day, it was a failure of a season. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.479 It is a failure every season. David Sturts deserves Yeah, 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.000 two fires seasons, Yeah, two failures season. David Sturtns deserves 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 a ton of Flack. It's a lot of his fault. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.080 He's made a lot of very bad decisions, decisions that 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.560 have backfired. 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