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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: like there is all this noise, there's instant stories, there's

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Speaker 2: constant there's constant noise in the world, and when you

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Speaker 2: come back to music, writing, reading, creative process, whatever that

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Speaker 3: Sense of purpose and stability and happiness.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lenn Hoffman, and welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we dig deep into the healing power

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Speaker 1: of music with musicians who all have their own unique

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Speaker 1: story to tell. Our guest today is the singer and

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Speaker 1: songwriter who truly knows the healing forces of music. Antonette

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Speaker 1: Costa is a singer and songwriter whose style ranges from

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Speaker 1: jazz to soul, to classical and even hip hop. She

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Speaker 1: has new music out called Pitpopatter and recently revealed that

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Speaker 1: she's facing her own health chare challenges, and we are

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Speaker 1: so fortunate that she actually wanted to share her story

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Speaker 1: on our show today, and the story of immersion. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: emotional and physical recovery. Let me give you that line again.

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Speaker 1: She has new music out called Pitt Pattern and recently

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Speaker 1: revealed that she's facing her own health challenges, and we're

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Speaker 1: so fortunate that she wanted to share her story of

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Speaker 1: emotional and physical recovery along with the healing power of music. Antonette,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Music Save Me. It's great to have you here,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for wanting to be here.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Lynn, thank you for that kind intro, and to Buzz

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Speaker 2: as well for having me on the podcast. I love

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Speaker 2: the episodes and your guests and the topics that you

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Well, let's dive right in, and

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Speaker 1: first let me ask you what were your first experiences

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Speaker 1: That's kind of two questions, no great questions.

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Speaker 2: As a small child, I started writing music naturally so

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Speaker 2: It was my first introduction to it, and I started

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Speaker 2: writing my own musicals early age, At around five years old.

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Speaker 2: I'd use the fireplace as my stage and would start

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Speaker 3: So very natural songwriter.

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Speaker 1: Wow, at five you're writing plays.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because my brother's daughter, so my niece,

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Speaker 2: she's doing the same thing a little bit earlier than me.

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Speaker 2: She's three and a half and she came to my

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Speaker 2: performance at the Kimmel Center this past week and she

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Speaker 2: has it in her So maybe it's a little bit genetics.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, there's a lot of that. Definitely. Can you

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Speaker 1: share I kind of pinted about it a little bit upfront,

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Speaker 1: but would you to share the recent challenges you've had

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Speaker 2: I had a brain tumor and was sick for about

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Speaker 2: for over a year and eventually needed surgery. During that time,

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Speaker 2: music was my therapy. It was my hope. And my

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Speaker 2: mom gave me the idea when I was at my

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Speaker 2: she said, why don't you if you can sing after

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Speaker 2: this surgery, why don't you record an album? And that

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Speaker 1: Wow. So visualization you mentioned that word. That's a powerful word,

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Speaker 1: almost as powerful as music and the vibration. A lot

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Speaker 3: It's so true. Even with performances.

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Speaker 2: I was a bit afraid to perform this past week

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, And it really does go down exactly how

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Speaker 1: In the middle of it, right and you're looking around.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you said that because there was a little

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Speaker 1: That I read that. Tracy Chapman was a big influence

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Speaker 2: Fastcar is one of my favorite songs ever before the

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Speaker 2: He's done some do wop, but I like his live performances,

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Speaker 2: songwriters in terms of voices. I've always loved Annita Baker

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Speaker 1: Well, I read that you said, writing a song I

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Speaker 2: And I experienced that when I decided to open up

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Speaker 2: I usually don't like to say what I've written a

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Speaker 2: every good sound with that big, bad mouth, And People

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Speaker 2: magazine did an article about that songwriting process, and I

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, I think of music as the bridge to

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Speaker 2: it definitely saved me because I was at a point

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Speaker 3: That was one person who listened.

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Speaker 2: It was about finishing and completing the process so powerful.

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Speaker 1: Can you highlight a few of the songs that might

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Speaker 1: with Crumbles. Oh so good Soldiers, Cry you.

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Speaker 3: Crumbles was very much you keep it on the right.

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Speaker 2: and that comes from within. You can't ever have a

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Speaker 1: Well, if there was anyone going through a similar challenge

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Speaker 2: To surround yourself with positive forces and people. My world

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Speaker 1: Tell me about collaborating with other artists. I know you've

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Speaker 3: There is definitely a magic and on this album pit

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Speaker 2: So there are incredible musicians that dropped so much to

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Speaker 2: in December that we recorded this ray Angry of the Roots,

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Speaker 2: Because everyone put the heart and soul into the album,

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Speaker 3: It's about the team.

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Speaker 2: And that also motivated me to release it and finish

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Speaker 2: it because I wanted everyone's work to be heard.

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Speaker 1: And the musicians on call you also worked with them

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Lynn, It's hilarious the timing of this because Sam Hollander,

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Speaker 2: So it's just this timing of everything falling into place

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you just kind of let yourself be guided.

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Speaker 2: And here you are.

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Speaker 3: And I remember watching the VH one and seeing you.

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Speaker 2: one day i'd be I'd be in front.

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Speaker 3: Of you, Oh my looking interviewed by you.

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Speaker 1: Funny you should say that I was reading you were

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Speaker 3: I did, I did, I would blog, I would blog.

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Speaker 2: That was my first internship through the whole to fifteen

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Speaker 2: fifteen Broadway. But I wish that I could speak like you,

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Speaker 2: because you have this calm, assertive voice. And I remember,

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Speaker 2: actually I had heard your voice before I saw your

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Speaker 2: your image, and I had been I like YouTube, looking

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you it's just equally as surreal for

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Speaker 1: you to say that to me, because I don't place

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Speaker 1: always like you're talking to somebody else next to me,

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Speaker 1: because when I guess maybe people are people, and I guess,

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Speaker 1: it gets me a little. As you can see, I

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Speaker 2: We'll be on again because it's like Benjamin Button in

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Speaker 2: front of me, because you look younger then back then,

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Speaker 2: and your presence on screen and of course your voice.

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Speaker 2: I'm just very excited to be on here and that

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Speaker 2: you're still you're still doing what you love and you're

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Speaker 2: so great at well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks and Tonet Well just a beautiful woman, a beautiful

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Speaker 1: heart full of music, and I can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show today and sharing some of

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Speaker 1: your story. Hopefully it's helped lift some up. Like you say,

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Speaker 1: just one is enough, Yes, one is enough, One's enough.

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Speaker 1: Antonette Costa, thank you for sharing your remarkable journey with

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Speaker 1: us and your story on music saved me. And keep

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Speaker 1: fighting a good fight and please keep in touch and

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: Welyn thank you so much for having me as an honor,