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Speaker 1: This is a Headgun podcast Celebrity Club Ring Ring Ring Ring. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up ten. This is Bradley from ICCTV Studios and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the team in Netflix. Here. We got

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Speaker 1: you on speaker. Um, we have a minute. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: we have some awesome news. We love your stuff, we

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Speaker 1: love your personality. You had amazing chemistry with the rest

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Speaker 1: of the boys. We'd love to offer you the position

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Speaker 1: you gotta dude. Oh no, yes, you're gonna beat a

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Speaker 1: passion queer Eye next generation. It's gonna be sick. Dude,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be sick. No, you simply must be joking.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think I'm right for this position at all.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it that that snarky British

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Speaker 1: sense of humor that you're doing. That's awesome. I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to be cheeky at all. I'm just cheeky. I'm

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Speaker 1: going through. You're freaking hilarious. Okay, So we we're starting production.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's super fast. Obviously we wanted to even

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Speaker 1: start this yesterday. So we're gonna need you be flying

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Speaker 1: down tomorrow. Oh god, I just I'm in the middle

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Speaker 1: of selling a lot of my Instagram based apparel businesses

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Speaker 1: that I run out of Salt Lake City with a

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Speaker 1: fellow Mormon girl. And it's just it causes a lot

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Speaker 1: of anxiety and stress for me to consider going on television.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just not that dynamic or interested in attention.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how I could ever be on

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Speaker 1: your television show. Oh dude, you're so real. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: see you Monday. Are you sure that it's me? Are

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Speaker 1: you sure that I'm right for television? I need to

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Speaker 1: talk about where with my husband, with my strong, masculine

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Speaker 1: rancher cowboy husband. You can give your husband myself. I'm

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Speaker 1: headed to a dinner thing in three minutes, but I

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Speaker 1: could fit them in. Probably I forgot to the Apple

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Speaker 1: store actually in one minute. Maybe I could talk to him. Look, chan,

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Speaker 1: no one else was like you. There's a look in

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Speaker 1: your eyes when you see a blazer and you see

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Speaker 1: a pair of dark work, slim, skinny jeans. Your eye

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Speaker 1: is amazing. Your heart is even bigger than your eyes.

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Speaker 1: That's such a beautiful, poetic thing to say. And perhaps

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Speaker 1: the world, which is knowing a lot about I got

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Speaker 1: a meeting of the Apple Store. Okay, I can, my

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Speaker 1: laptop is frozen, but um see you in La Monday.

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Speaker 1: Well I'll have a think about it. But okay, okay, awesome,

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Speaker 1: love you, Cheerio, love it. Oh God, oh dear, who's

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Speaker 1: that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, you

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Speaker 1: filthy horror. Your husband's gone and we've got books and

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Speaker 1: sure it's memoir, it's Martini clebook Club can read it

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Speaker 1: while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell your secrets. We

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Speaker 1: won't talk celebrity books. No boys are allowed. Celebrity book

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Speaker 1: say it. Celebrity book Club. Bus Man, I brought the

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Speaker 1: queer foe Hey bass mate. I'm Lily from Yankin Share.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steven from Fistlewap, fur to Shire and we're so

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Speaker 1: excited to podcast with you today. Is this Celebrity Book Club.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. We're live in the Chelsea Wick Studios

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Speaker 1: for the first time recording our podcast Proper Proper, Start Book,

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Speaker 1: Proper Proper, not just behind a weird screen in our

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Speaker 1: own little homes were really We're back in studio. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and We're just so happy to be here. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: a bit buzzy. Yeah, come back to Manchester with me

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Speaker 1: for a second, so I need to pull it in.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? We are, of course, gathered here to

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Speaker 1: celebrate a short man, a short petite man though sorry

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Speaker 1: average height for men in the UK, height for US

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Speaker 1: and UK man. Of course, we're talking about none other

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Speaker 1: than ten France. Ten Frants. You know him as the

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Speaker 1: fashion maven from the reboot Oh Queer, I say it

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Speaker 1: with me, reboots, reboots stuff. So it's truly while that

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Speaker 1: we're doing tamp France because we actually kind of we

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Speaker 1: met the pretty culture. We met Carson Gresley at the

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Speaker 1: Nantucket Aids Galla two one. We were eighteen, Yeah, drinking oyster. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: I'm not old, but yes, no, no, no, it was

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Speaker 1: oh four. Yet we were so young and I remember

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Speaker 1: we were drinking under age. I just but everyone thought

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Speaker 1: we were so glamorous. Yeah, and your hair was like

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Speaker 1: you were doing the full steth from the OC shaggy boots.

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Speaker 1: It was, it was shaggy, but there may have been Jelinette.

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Speaker 1: Were you jelling that? I mean, that is the ultimate

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Speaker 1: about you hate hair, Joel, and I agree, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: never and I will say this as a gold staff,

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Speaker 1: hair is like soatsane. Yeah, and we'll talk about his

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Speaker 1: hair tragedy in my opinion in a minute. But like

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Speaker 1: I hate those things in a sexual contact with a man,

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Speaker 1: Like there's nothing grosser than when you get like naked

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Speaker 1: It is like quite enough super quiet. Um. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know you're very like natural man and you don't use Didoran.

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Speaker 1: I used deodorant, but I also don't feel like I

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Speaker 1: totally need it, like I alway have a gorgeous cent. Well,

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Speaker 1: put on this like Gel Gillette deodorant honestly to feel

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Speaker 1: hate his hair. Way too huge. It's way too huge,

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Speaker 1: he says at one point in the book where he's like,

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's no, it's like, now everyone's seeing your

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Speaker 1: Like actually, if you wear this crop jacket and play

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Speaker 1: and it his hair looks good, and like when he

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Speaker 1: But even just in like I feel like twenty fourteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I would kill for that hair. Like I will

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Speaker 1: do this. He called curtains the sort of like Leodacapri

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Speaker 1: and I was a middle part. Yeah, it was just

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Speaker 1: you know, I've never had hair that falls down. I've

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Speaker 1: never had like strange, gentile, shining hair, and you do well.

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Speaker 1: And I've always I don't know what this cost, but

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Speaker 1: I've always said I can give you my locks, and well,

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Speaker 1: creepily I have them because I meant to give him answer,

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Speaker 1: but like we can locks for love it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that would be nice. But I have the hair

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Speaker 1: you know, no, you certainly do, and it grows, it

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Speaker 1: grows fast. Bamboo. Yeah, that's what I always say, just

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Speaker 1: fucking that bamboo rates. But I did I identify with

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Speaker 1: So you think video games called cold one, I know,

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Speaker 1: kind of the most iconic part about his childhood and

451
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: like where he got into fashion is that because grandfather

452
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: runs a denom factory for Disney. Part it was Disney brand.

453
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: It was so insane. Disney was so like every big

454
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: nineties like Mickey Mouse varsity jacket or big denims with

455
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: goofy like, and he was obsessed with the tallerine and

456
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: he like and he would just like take so much

457
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: of this Disney gear yeah, and just be rocking it

458
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: so hard. And he is very technically minded, you know,

459
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: he's very into the purchasing and selling and fabrication and

460
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: sewing and all, you know, all of the elements that

461
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: go into the So what's also kind of like so

462
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: funny is like, you know, rather than reading this fashion

463
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: moment of someone being like I want to be still

464
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: in mccottoney, like, he is very upfront about how he feels, like,

465
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he is so basic. Yeah, He's like, I'm

466
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: a huge basic bitch and I just wanted to like

467
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: design for Zara and He's like I wanted to work

468
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: at Zara, and I wanted to be like the purchasing

469
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: director at Zara and like the regional purchasing manager at

470
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: Zara and then go to another store and via regional

471
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: sale was director for Ancient And I think that's why

472
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: he has such a good understanding of what the rand

473
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: layman wants and needs to wear and like what that

474
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: person will be comfortable with. And I will say I

475
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: think in some ways he is better at his specific

476
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: task of addressing the men than Carson went. Well. I

477
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: was going to say, I pen times we're entertaining, go

478
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: back and watch the original Queer episodes, which I recommend

479
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: you do because again, I mean they're genius. Yeah, and

480
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: but he was still like putting men in the most

481
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: like crazy diesel genes that were like yeah, I mean

482
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: that was also the style. Then, Yeah, he was being

483
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: more of the moment, putting this long moment, more of

484
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: a bad hearty moment and like yeah, we're going with

485
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: a huge vertical stripe button down, and it's like Tan

486
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: has basically just being like Okay, you need a blazer

487
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: that fits, you need to pull all that fits you need,

488
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: Like yeah, classic dad, speakers that are leather with like

489
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: a rubber so Carson would just be like, oh um,

490
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: you love He's not British. Carson would just be like,

491
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: oh um, you love the band Motley Crue. We're gonna

492
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: find a vintage Motley Crue T shirt like shredded, shredded

493
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: iron it onto another shredded stetted denim jacket and give

494
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: you this amazing custom piece that you can wear and

495
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: show up to your friends. And it's just like this

496
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: random slubby streak. It's just like this is insane. I'm

497
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: not gonna wear this a gay eighties drest. He's gonna

498
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: being the marriager mortgage bitch just being like, oh you

499
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: like this one thing, well, I'm gonna go completely insane

500
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: with that one idea and thousands of dollars yeah, and

501
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: like create this insane like Motley Cruze shrine room in

502
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: this house. I'm trying to sell you and like make

503
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: you cry and like emotionally manipulate you. Um. Similarity between

504
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: have we I feel like we've of gay guys books,

505
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: We've only read Tan Friends and Chastin is that I

506
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: feel like this makes Chastin's memoir look like the fucking

507
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: coal miner's daughter. Like it literally makes Chastin look like

508
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: he's had this insane, interesting, hard scrubble life that's like

509
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: so full of like drama and intrigue, and it's just

510
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: like he was literally just being like and then I

511
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: worked at Sarah and then I dated one guy, and

512
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: then I dated one more guy and then I married him.

513
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: That's also very CHASTI I didn't one of the person

514
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: these and they work at retail jobs and they're so basic, right,

515
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: is that these gay guys like they spend so much

516
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: time just telling you about like retail jobs that they had,

517
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: and he's like, and I couldn't keep a job, he

518
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: was like. And so I think this is actually so

519
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: indicative of the gay experts. And I've said this before,

520
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: I really don't think that gay people can work culture.

521
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're really capable of it because

522
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I think Tan like is kind of like me in

523
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: some way. I feel like he is like, you know,

524
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: good at taking like standardized tests, and like he does

525
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: a job. I think he likes very good in the room,

526
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: and he's like good in the room, but like, ultimately

527
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: we're really not made for offices, like really cannot survive

528
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: in that sort of like heteron or ord of like setting.

529
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: I think we're just like we're too obsessed with ourselves.

530
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: We're too talking to ourselves in our head. And he

531
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: was getting in fights. There's so many gens, always like

532
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: getting crazy arrivalries with these random gens and laurens at

533
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: the office. It's just like, we're really not cut out

534
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: to work. And I don't think gay people can finish

535
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: tasks or do normal jobs. I absolutely, I agree, I

536
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: just I just I don't think it's in the cards

537
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: and we shouldn't be expected to. And this pre speed

538
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: to my next point of just so like, okay, so

539
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: he randomly hates women is like the vibe in this book. Well, okay,

540
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: he loves women, but then also he's like the part

541
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: he says that women are always caddying offices. Yes, which

542
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: is true, it's literally true. Well that's very true. But

543
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, have you ever, like, as someone who

544
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: has worked in many offices, the thing is the men

545
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: like don't talk shit about each other. They're in the

546
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: same way, whereas every office I've worked in women have

547
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: this way, and I've yeah, they talk shit, no, no,

548
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: but there's a specific way in which they do over

549
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: what I call the reverse stage whisper, where it's like, oh,

550
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: they talk like that, they talk like in a normal way,

551
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: but I'm if I'm two feet away, I couldn't hear

552
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: what they're saying. They've like figured out a way to

553
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: just like have the actual like death like the sound

554
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: waves of their voice, just like mimic the air conditioning

555
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: or something, so you like can't hear them because while

556
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: they're just being like, oh yeah, I mean, here's the thing,

557
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: isn't that Stephanie isn't right for this project and she

558
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: and she knows that she's not right for it, and

559
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: so she's trying to overcompensate. The thing is this is

560
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: all going to go to hell a meeting next two

561
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: staff and it's just like wait what It's like, It's like,

562
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: actually crazy. I've been in this situation so many times.

563
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: We're literally two computers over. I cannot hear the conversation

564
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: and they're not whispering. Oh yeah, I guess my point

565
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: is that it's like one that is true. But I

566
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: still do think he does hate women because he so yeah,

567
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: he's like a gay man, he wants to be a woman.

568
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: And he's like so angry and also like so much

569
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: back here. Here's this whole chapter about drag where he's

570
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: like drugging kids for me. He's like, it's not for me,

571
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, a thing it was they have

572
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: to do one lipsying challenge and he's like and he

573
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: was like, just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm gonna

574
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: be amazing a drag. Yeah. He'll he'll start a topic

575
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and then he'll kind of spiral with his insecurity where

576
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he has something that I always felt

577
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: as a kid, which was jealousy of women for having

578
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: access to dresses, something you can wear because a dress

579
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: is like so easy. And I always thought growing up,

580
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: I was like women's were does have more options, and

581
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: I think historically women were has always been so much

582
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: for interesting and so much were varied. I think obviously

583
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: now that conversation is very different in the past twenty years. Absolutely,

584
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: the men's right industry has changed so much, and we

585
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: have people like virtual applo to thank for the evolution.

586
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: But I do you know, historically women have had more

587
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: options and like the idea of being able to flit

588
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: around in a dress is something that seems freeing, and like,

589
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: obviously he is so repressed for so many reasons. I

590
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: mean he's British, British and game in Pakistani, so I think,

591
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: and Muslim, So all three of those things are something

592
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: that makes you really sort of uptight, repast, like all

593
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: those cultures are classically like, and so I think he's

594
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: the most like you know he also, I mean he's

595
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: obsessed with he busy, is Mormon. Yeah, it's it's really okay.

596
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: So so he moves to Utah and marries this guy

597
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: and just he starts a fashion business with a Mormon

598
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Instagram or like how he came to it. First of all,

599
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't really explain how he got selected for Netflix,

600
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but his whole career up until Queer I was running

601
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: a like retro swimsuit business for women, then running a

602
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: knockoff version of his own retro sims business for women,

603
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: then starting a separate Mormon dress business with this Instagram

604
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: influencer influencer blogger who loves the color pink. And it

605
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: sounds like they had an insanely tense volume still friends

606
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: to this day. It's like, you're not It sounds like

607
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: he literally feels so betrayed by you. This is if

608
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I can just read the passage of the first time

609
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: he discovered Salt Lake. His so many trips make no

610
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: sense because in his teenhood he's like, so sometimes my

611
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: friends and I would just rough New York City and

612
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: you're just like that was the reveal of him being rich,

613
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: where he was like nothing. I would like lie to

614
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: my parents and say I was like going to London

615
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and we would just fly to New York for the week,

616
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: me and my friends and like go to Jake to

617
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: go to forty forty and like buy a ton of

618
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Timberland's because they were cheaper in America. So m and

619
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: go ahead and be like one twenty nine, you're buying

620
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: four pairs at one twenty nine, going to forty forty

621
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: getting bottle service with your chicas. Obviously had a credit

622
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: card and needs a daddy's girl. Yeah, because I was

623
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 1: always quitting jobs with a band. And when he just

624
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: walks off that when he's working at that gay bar

625
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and he just it's pride and he jumps out over

626
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: the bar. I'm sorry, I can't I my first pride,

627
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: which I did. I love that moment. Okay, when I

628
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: was twenty five, I visited Salt Lake sitting on vacation

629
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: and they're already just like, I'm sorry, who told where?

630
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Why Lake City on vacation? Like what, We're just browsing

631
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Kayak and we're like, let's do sta Salt Lake. I

632
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: want to. I want to try their bar bites, Like

633
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: what are you doing there? I had been going there

634
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: regularly for a couple of years after initially visiting on

635
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: a trip my coworker who convinced me to come check

636
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: out his home state. Okay, so coworkers, more, men, cokers more,

637
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: he's a regional district drawn to conservative people. Well yeah,

638
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: because I feel like for all the reasons we explained, yes,

639
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Olive Garden dates. So

640
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: these fair weather friends of his in Salt Lake City

641
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: are just like, Okay, get on this random app and

642
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: it's pre grinder and like like it was like not

643
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: connection with an ax or something. I mean, I want

644
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. Okay, So I used to be in

645
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: an app. There used to be a website called man Hunt.

646
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: There's also website called Adam for Adam, So oh yeah,

647
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: you remember those days. I was like sleeping with guys

648
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: on Adam for Adam like when we lived together, Like

649
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: this was before Grinder anything, and it was was it

650
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: location based, I think it was address or something, but

651
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: it was still being very profile and weird, and like

652
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: Manhunt was so profile and it was it was also

653
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: very you were way more likely to was very meshed. Yeah,

654
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: well was more like wanting to be bad under a

655
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: bridge by like a full catfish. Anyway, So they meet

656
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: on Connection and right, so it's kind of in the

657
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Manhunt area of time, and he meets this guy Rob

658
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: who ends up being like his person who he ends

659
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: up getting married to and who was like his soul mate.

660
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: And they meet for a date at the Olive Garden

661
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: because Tan was like people told me, it's the most

662
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: boring place on Earth. So I thought if I could

663
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: have a fun date at the most boring place on Earth,

664
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: then like then I know would be for real, which

665
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: in some level, like it's kind of cute and it

666
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: is like a ram Calm like story, but I also

667
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: just think this is this thing where he basically is

668
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: the most basic personal live and he just like the

669
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: first thing he goes on with this like guy who's

670
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: like mask and hot, He's just like into and it's

671
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: like and he's making up this whole story also because

672
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well three pages ago, you said you

673
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: were at chilies and you said this is the most

674
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: amazing place I've ever been to, and you're like, why

675
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: are you calling olive gardens apport? Yeah, I mean that's

676
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: and this is why he's so more man culturally, because

677
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: it's like the two ends of the cultural spectrum are

678
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: chilies and olive gardens. Chili's is like super fabulous, and

679
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh, the food is bad except for

680
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: the breadsticks dipped an old Fredo sauce. And it's like,

681
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: well that's kind of the point of the olive gardens.

682
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you loved it, babe. I just

683
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: wanted to find this section, the part where he's talking

684
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: about um women getting banks and he's like, the decision

685
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: to get bangs is yours. This is but he's like,

686
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: but dope, Okay, this is his hated women where it's

687
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: just like you're like, okay, so you're like, so you

688
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: hate when women get banks, and then you're just like,

689
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: and you hate when women wear two beast bathing suits,

690
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: and you also hate when women dye their hair. Well,

691
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean, I think you're misreading it

692
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: and funny. It's funny. Actually you're racing the game experience

693
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: and ways talking about So he says, all right, I

694
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: love Banks, but women, you must do your gay friends

695
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: a favor. The decision to get Banks is yours. Don't

696
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: put that shit on us if you want to shoulder

697
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: to cry when your house going to that awkward growing

698
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: up face. I can't be the person when I was

699
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the one who warned you I love and I told

700
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: you so more than anyone I've ever meant. It's my

701
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: worst quality for sure. So it's like he's being like, oh, yeah, yeah, bangs,

702
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: but don't be mad at me when you're like crying

703
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: when they grow out, because it's like girls are always

704
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: being like should I get bangs? Which I do feel

705
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: like is one of the top five questions that a

706
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: straight girl asks for gay best friends. Should bangs? I

707
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: guess are you under so much persecution when they grow out?

708
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: And she's mad, I mean, I don't have the relationship.

709
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: Put the random office girls who get bangs, right, And

710
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: he is more gay who does? He's a game who

711
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: does because his whole thing is I've you know, I

712
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: am not a gay man, but I've been at and

713
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I would tell you no because of the growing out concept,

714
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And if you did them that,

715
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I would say, don't blame me for the growing out moment.

716
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I've had girlfriends on my own, you know, who say

717
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: should I get bangs? And I usually say I like bangs.

718
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean. The thing about bangs, though, is it's just

719
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: it's always a thing that when a girl gets bangs,

720
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: it's like some sort of signal that's something's going on,

721
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: that something's going on, and then you're supposed to acknowledge

722
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: the bangs, and it's always a little like, oh, okay, yeah,

723
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: they need to make a statement there's something going on

724
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: in their life. Yeah, I guess what I'm saying here

725
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: is also the reason why he's like mostly excited when

726
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: he gets the call to be on Queer Eye, which

727
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: again I wish he would explain more. He basically says, like,

728
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: why were you selected? Like you randomly have this Instagram

729
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: dress business that's like four moments okay, But it's also

730
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: so weird how he keeps on saying I could I

731
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: was about to retire and it's like you're thirty and

732
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: you're like, sorry, so you started all these successful businesses.

733
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: I was like how much was he? Yeah, I'm like

734
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: so and he was like, don't even get me started

735
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: on how he was being so like here the two

736
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: in lesbian, who needs to tell you how much he

737
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: is a full time job? Yeah, where It's like, okay,

738
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: I get it, you have like three copyrights. It was

739
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: so shark Tank because he was just like yeah, and

740
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: don't ever like have the second job, like don't pay

741
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: yourself a salary to three years in like you will

742
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: be in debt and just this invest everything back in

743
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: the company. It was very Barbara and like actually, just

744
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: like you you think you can be rich, You're not

745
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: going to be rich. O way. I did like when

746
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: he was being so fake and that he was pretending

747
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: to be all of these other women at a company

748
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: and it was like Christine and and liked and he

749
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: would be like the head of operations, the head of payment,

750
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: like the head of booking, and like any client who

751
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: would email, he just like sorry Christine and I'm gonna

752
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: see c Vivian And it's just like okay, that is this.

753
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: This is so gay. That is One of this fabious

754
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: is he's pretending to be ten Mormon women at the

755
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: office who work for like a conservative yet retro high

756
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: waisted bathings. And I do respect his love of the

757
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: fifties because he's always like in the seventies were he

758
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: saying how all these men who were super mask actually

759
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: did were highwaisted, like funky suits that highwaisted would come

760
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: back into style. It's like, it's pretty in style. I

761
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: want to talk about the part where him and Anthony

762
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: go sweatshirt shopping and ask if they have scissors cut

763
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: offs like at the store and New York City and

764
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: they're walking through Soho and everyone's like, you guys aren't

765
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: cut offs right, and they're freaking out. But then he's

766
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: also like my boys. He keeps referring to them as

767
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: like my boys, like gets so mad at me because

768
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: like Bobby or Anthony can like go undercover. Once Tan

769
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: is in the mix, everyone gets like recognized. Wait, sorry,

770
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: he says that like blows up their spot because hands

771
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: like the most famous or the most noticeable is what

772
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: he's saying. I mean, obviously two queer Eye cast members

773
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: together is more recognizable than one one that's not really

774
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: basic math, basic math math, Like it's not that. Tan

775
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: is like, so the clockerella and that's it. And he

776
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: has this whole chapter about how much like he hates

777
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: press junkets and how like how hard it is to

778
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: be on queer eye. He's like, oh, I know you're

779
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: probably like, oh sob story, but like you're a famous

780
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: movie start but because it, but you don't get it.

781
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: He was like, I would give anything to be going

782
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: to bed with my husband. Part ten PM. It's like,

783
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: shut litter, really, shut up. You literally fucked over Rachel.

784
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh wait actually okay, yeah, we used to talk about

785
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: the woman he fucked over. Um wait, I just had it. Well,

786
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: while you're reading that, I'm going to read this passage

787
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the Art of not being a Bitch at Work, which

788
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: is funny because it sounds like he's actually a bit

789
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: at work. Realize you are not in competition with everybody

790
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: at your workplace. Realize that the success of your colleagues

791
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: does not mean you're at risk of not achieving your goals.

792
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Do not talk about your colleagues with other colleagues, because

793
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: negative everybody spreads like wildfire. If you're working on one

794
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: of my offices and you dare bitch about a colleague

795
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: so you can one up them. No, who hotay that

796
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: the person you're bitching about would be praised and you,

797
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: the bitching person, will be fired. This is very Biden's

798
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: rule that he was like, and if you are negative,

799
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: you will be fired because we're anti negativity in our

800
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: safe space. Champ is biting everyone is like an actually

801
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: almost toxic male dog. Talk about big toxic of the workplace.

802
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: If you're bitching about people to other people, you are

803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: the problem. If you truly don't appreciate something that's happening

804
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: with a colleague, speak to them privately. I love like

805
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: confronting colleagues, but yeah, about something I don't appreciate. I

806
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: even think because he says that, but then he like

807
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: literally backstabs that girl at work and then gets her

808
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: fired and like friends to sue the company when she

809
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: fires him for like never showing up. I'm just like,

810
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: you're actually insane, psychotic, like revenge count who's just like

811
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: fucking people over it. He's like taping people and like

812
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: printing out emails. I'm just saying with all of tan

813
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: just being so like women, you all the bitches at work. Meanwhile,

814
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: like you're going like full Ashley Judd like court case.

815
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like you're the same bitch. Yeah, I

816
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: mean he's very no, I mean pot cattle. Well he

817
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: thinks that he's like, he's just like no, I would

818
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: never like talk about you like at the office. I

819
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: would actually just like file a suit against you like

820
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: when I leave the office, and then I'll only write

821
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: about it in this Instagram book. Okay, So this is

822
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: the part where he has to get out of his business,

823
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: his pink Instagram Mormon dress business with Rachel, his Mormon friend.

824
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: We need to look up her tops, and so he

825
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: claims that he was unwinding himself in the business because

826
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: he was suicidal because he was so busy. Yeah, and

827
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: then he got the call to band Netflix and he

828
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: was like, well, actually I can do this Netflix show,

829
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: but I do need to get out of my businesses

830
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: TVH though I would totally gad and as someone who

831
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: like does have jobs and I has to work as

832
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: copy writor it's like it literally kills me and I

833
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: wish I could die. And I'm just like everyone offer

834
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: never sure would be like those if I was running

835
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: also like a Mormon influencers like dress brand. I also too,

836
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I would want to drive off. So he says he

837
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: literally almost he's like at a bridge and he calls

838
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: his husband sobbing yeah, and it's like I'm gonna kill myself. Yeah,

839
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: and he was like Rob talked me off, and when

840
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: we got dinner or something, I'm gonna like we got

841
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: dinner with no drinks. Okay. A couple of weeks after

842
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I announced I was leaving so leaving the Pink dress

843
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: Instagram Mormon business, I got a call about this job

844
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: for Netflix. When Rachel caught wind of the news, she

845
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: thought I was leaving the company fourth this job, and

846
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: she was incredibly hurt. I tried to explain that, yes,

847
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: the timing seemed very suspicious, but it was just a

848
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: coincidence and a very fortuitous opportunity. Then he goes it

849
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: was hard for our relationship, but I was able to

850
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: show that I wasn't actually necessari anymore, as the business

851
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: was running perfectly with the team we'd hired, and that

852
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: she and her husband could do it on their own.

853
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: I was right about that. Of course, Rachel Parcel Incorporated

854
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: is more successful than ever, and she had still friends

855
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: to this day it's like, what, you're still friends. Also,

856
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: he didn't say like and we're the best of gals.

857
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: He said still general friends, general Salt Lake City, like

858
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: acquaintances to this day. Also the fact that he probably

859
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: told her that he was he was already telling her

860
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: that he was leaving. So she's like, okay, I guess,

861
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: like that's super upsetting, but I can like accept that

862
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: you're like suicidal whatever. Yeah, and then he's like, no,

863
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: it's actually yeah. And then he's like, oh my god,

864
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: I actually go to some amazing offer to be on.

865
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: It's even worse that six show. And she's like, well, wow,

866
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you see you are going to work. Oh, these are

867
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: the dresses. Okay, so it's full like Easter Pinterest. It's

868
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: very easter. It's honestly even more. It's like more boring

869
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: than um Draper James and Riese. Witherspoon's like, yeah, okay,

870
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: so we're seeing like a white blazer jeans. I mean

871
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: it's just like, I mean, it's the most normal ass

872
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: like Forever twenty one. It's like a peasant top jeans

873
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: with a couple of strategic or Christian than for twenty one,

874
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: but not much. It's for petite women. Yeah, for petite

875
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: they describe it's very um feminine. This is more Christian,

876
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: the super we're looking at a super long in front

877
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: of the LDS church, that massive, insane mo darn like

878
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Mormon church. It's all like we need to be doing

879
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: more shoots in front of Mormon churches. Belmont, Well remember

880
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: when they went when they built it. I was so

881
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I was in the old girls math class because after

882
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: that study came out where they were like girls are

883
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: so intimidated by boys that they do better in math class,

884
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: like when they're part of this pilot program. Yeah, it

885
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: was like me Bella, like Beryl Dianna, and now you

886
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: guys are all really good at division. Um, actually don't.

887
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Maybe this was even a Cohen Meth class. We were

888
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: all like roasting that Mormon church that was being built

889
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: because we were like sketched out at thirteen year olds

890
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: that this Mormon church were being built. And then those

891
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: girl looks up from her like equations or whatever and goes,

892
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: my dad is actually the architect of that Mormon church.

893
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: Just so of course, Um, Julia copis beep, wait are

894
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: you serious? Yeah? I guess I knew this at a

895
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: time and I forgot about it. So he was just

896
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: like a random like Charket. He's like not Morman at all,

897
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: just like the church for Mitt Romney in Belmont, Okay.

898
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: So basically Tam gets a call because like someone knows

899
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: someone knows someone and yeah, and then he doesn't want

900
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: to take the job, and then he takes it. I

901
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: mean honestly, this whole process of getting the job is

902
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: like the most boring, just like okay, and then you're

903
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: meeting a casting director and then you meet again and

904
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: then they like do a chemistry test and then you like,

905
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: oh wait, I wouldn't say classic of course, like all

906
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: of our books. He was like, I was so instead

907
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: of being tall and skinny, he has five nine, but

908
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: he was I was so pistite skinny when I was younger,

909
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: I was so tiny and and I'm still so tiny.

910
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: And then so I I guess the Queer Eye edition

911
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: was like very speed dating and they just like put

912
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: a lot of like the gaze in this room. And

913
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: he was like, so I just set up shop at

914
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: a high top and I just had the boys come

915
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: to him. He literally said, I'll sid up top of a

916
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: a high top and the like, and the boys came

917
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: to him and him and like Bobby and Kruma were talking.

918
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: He was like Kruma had the most deep beautiful eyes

919
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: and like, look, you were like the only person in

920
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: their own Okay. I did think the interesting tea though

921
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: of this section was saying that Antony was the last

922
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: to be hired and that like they had settled on

923
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: the other four and Antony they were just kind of like,

924
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, well, the reality was it was

925
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: like it was in the four of us. Oh, your

926
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: actual tea? Oh, okay, so my actual tea is one

927
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: I went to Ted Allen's house three years ago, who

928
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: is the food guy from the original Queer Eye. Yes,

929
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: and he was who then hosted Chop and actually became

930
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: the most successful of any of the original And he

931
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: lives in Blank Green and four Blank. He was neighborhood

932
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: of New Blank City. He was like hosting a cookbook

933
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: event for my girlfriend's family friend who was like this

934
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: fabulous like lesbian who wrote like a Kubano cookbook. Okay um.

935
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: And his house was like, well yeah, huge Marboro Island.

936
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: The dining room was like super insanely dark, huge heavy

937
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: table like hutches full of China, huge funky funky hutches

938
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: filled and insane wall paper that was like on the

939
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Eastern Vibe. Yeah, and so it had a back yard

940
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: and there we was like helpers there, but he was

941
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: like slow roasting like a pork butt in like some

942
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: like we had like the Green. It was like Huban

943
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: recipes from the book. And he was holding this huge

944
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: pork putt and he was like, I like big butts,

945
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: and I need you to get out of the way,

946
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: okay to like someone who was in his way. Yes,

947
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: like insane. She's jokes. But the tea is that the

948
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: reason why Anthony was picked is because Anthony was like

949
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: his neighbor and he just thought he was hot. Yeah,

950
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: so that's so I guess that's how Anthony got like

951
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: in because he lives in the same building. Yeah, and

952
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: so it's insane that just like food Gates live in

953
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: this four green building together. And then they obviously like

954
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: didn't think that Anthony was either that dynamic on screen

955
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: or that good at Green because they were just like,

956
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: we are good on the other four but like we

957
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: probably won't. But as Tan explains it, they all loved Anthony. Well.

958
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: They also said they just all thought he was hot.

959
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: He was the last night, like they all kept talking

960
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: about how they how attractive. Thought this one man was Anthony?

961
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: I say, I didn't. I didn't really get it. He's

962
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: like I thought Chroma was the hottest. Yeah, sure, and

963
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: he's like and then and Anthony of course has that

964
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: sex pack. Yeah. I feel like like it's surprising he

965
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: says it because I feel like Tan's husband, Rob is

966
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: pretty kind of like basic standard like hot in a

967
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: way that antone waspy like, but like has this kind

968
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: of like square job muscularity to him that like Anthony

969
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: has that. I'm kind of just like general hotness. Do

970
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: you really see it? I feel like it's kind of well,

971
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm saying. Like he's being so

972
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: like my marriage is perfect, right, and then he's always

973
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: been like people will always DM me Like just because

974
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: me and Anthony are like having lunch together doesn't mean

975
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: we're dating. It's like, oh yeah, super defensive. You everys

976
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: want to fuck Anthony segment denim. What does she wear?

977
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: What does she how does she live? Okay, what does

978
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: she ask? I don't have what she asks? She loves

979
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: like a super loves jeans Okay, I will say this.

980
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: He is right about a lot of his basic tenants

981
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: of fashion, which is that it's like dark collars look

982
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: better most of the time, Yes, because they pair better

983
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: with most things, and like they make you look slimmer,

984
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: and they're more day to night. It's yeah, it's just

985
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: like pretty dark gene's kind of hard to argue with that.

986
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: And he's just like and he's like, I think, like

987
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: a slim gene looks good on me, and like and

988
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: like low rises on flatter It's like, yeah, that's basically true.

989
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: And high rise like, yes, play with it, but like

990
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: it's not like the go to Yeah, I don't know,

991
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: it depends. I mean, if you like, if you kind

992
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: of have a fopa, high rise can be a little

993
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: bit fupania. Yeah. I mean I usually hate a high

994
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: rise because it's just like it can fouopa someone who

995
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a foupa. Yeah. And it's like some

996
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: people are just like obsessed with fopa themselves. Yeah, I

997
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: mean I well, it also like if you are going

998
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: for like fam and you want to go then like

999
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: that can really work true. But yeah, I think I

1000
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: guess some roles I think tend to and maybe in

1001
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the more of the queer from space, right, they they're

1002
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: not trying to, and yet they are, and they think

1003
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: that they're not. They foopa themselves like to death and

1004
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, didn't need to do. Oh you actually

1005
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: are making yourself more and more that you're giving yourself

1006
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: a food. Yeah, you're doing front diaper and it's like

1007
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: we didn't need to truly didn't need to um. But yeah,

1008
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: he also loves Okay, why is everyone else with Tom Brown?

1009
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: He talks about he like, where's Tom Brown to the Emmys?

1010
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: And he's like, we like, can't talk shit about Tom.

1011
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not here to talk shit. It's just very Darby's law,

1012
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: where I feel like no one was ever time Tom

1013
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: Brown last year and now everyone is in Tom Brown

1014
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: for a photo shoot. I love that we're saying that

1015
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: phrase Darby's law, which is someone that we saw on

1016
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: a Facebook group from like some girl who went to

1017
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: my high school that I'm not even friends with, that,

1018
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: like some other friend groups said, is Darby's law when

1019
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: you hear something and then hear it again. I'm sure

1020
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: there's another term that's much more well known for that phenomenon. Well,

1021
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: but let's yeah, nine Am Club Club put it, put

1022
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: it in the reddita can Darby's law. So yeah, he

1023
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: also loves He's like remember when mock Y Mack, we're

1024
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: crop tops, and this is where he starts like doing

1025
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: crop tops. And he also loves He's like, I love

1026
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: printed tops. But he's actually wore white T shirts and

1027
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: there was actually only three. Law, Well, this is why

1028
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: he's so basic because he didn't realize that. So because

1029
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: he talks about how like everyone made fun of like

1030
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: him for putting every stroke in floral top, and he

1031
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: doesn't really understand a floral top is sort of a

1032
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: metaphor for the baseicness of the show itself, and he

1033
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: is kind of just like I only used full floral

1034
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: tops in season one, and it's like that's not the point.

1035
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: We're not actually like keeping score. It's that like your

1036
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: vibe is floral top, and like that's what you don't understand.

1037
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: He is true. So he says, like gay guys invented

1038
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: tight T shirts, oh like because of like the seventies

1039
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: and eighties or whatever. Yeah, but it's also like straight people,

1040
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifties Marlon Brando like cigarette in the shoulder,

1041
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: like he's basically always saying gay guys invented every piece

1042
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: of clothing, and it's like, again the past, actually, like

1043
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know Marlon Brendon wearing it. Well, Marlon Brendon

1044
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: was by though, so right and hello, like fancy clothes.

1045
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: The church. Obviously, everyone in the church has been gay

1046
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: since the beginning of Tons of straight guys are all

1047
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: we're all wearing highways and pants and the twenties, so

1048
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: that's true, No, I mean, like twenties style is amazing. Yeah,

1049
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys were totally straight. People actually

1050
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: don't remember that. We need more awareness or straight apples

1051
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: in the twenties. The twenties, Okay. Also, what I thought

1052
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: was interesting was he he mentioned I don't remember this

1053
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: outfit from season three, but he wore this sweatshirt that

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00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: he belted with an off white belt. Yes, and then

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00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: he wear shorts with it. Yeah, And it was really

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: conspicuous and it was really cheesy. It was very James Charles,

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00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: do you know. Yeah, And he talked about getting pushed

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00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: back from the producers, which was insane that part. And

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00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: he's like, and they told me, like, you're always telling

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00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: people not to wear sweats like, you can't wear this,

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00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: And this is when he honestly tell yes, Tan France,

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: stand up for yourself and he was like, no, the rules,

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00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: to break the rules, bitch like and it's like ultimately

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00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: like doesn't realize like that that outfit look horrible on

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00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: him and he looked like such an insane faggot. But

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00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: I think he was like, I need to break out

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00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: of this like printed Hawaiian crop. One moment in Tant's

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00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: own rules, it's like if you are a mua like

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00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: where that it's like if you are James Tarles, like wow,

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: that outfit and like being insane moa. But it's like

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: he's not Ama, he's insanely basic salt Lake gay who's

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00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: like thinks that he is just like first or whatever.

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00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: And it's just like, can't be wearing this like belt

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00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: in sweatshirt with this soft white belt. Um, what is

1075
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: he eat? What does he eat? Now? I'm like, literally,

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00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: but did he mention food once? In this part? He did?

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00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: He know? He mentioned like going how like he sprints

1078
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: racing like no at this like Taco Bowlder And this

1079
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: woman was like, do you want poyo? And he was mean,

1080
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: so you gotta taco bowl. So ultimately I think he

1081
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: is He's sweet Green, He's Taco Bowl. He's going to

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00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: like Anthony is making him a grand bowlder, getting grand

1083
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: bowls at Anthony. He is an insanely basic gay and

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00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: if he were ten years younger, he would just be like,

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00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't bottom because I had Chipotle

1086
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: like or don't chipital as they say, like he just

1087
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: has in Roman Like yeah. I think him and Rob

1088
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: like go to Salt Like they go to a big

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00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: booth place and he gets like a turkey burker. Yeah.

1090
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: And the rest it is very like craft services. Like

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00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: he's not even thinking about it. It's just like they're

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00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: bringing them gobbles and of sweet green. Yeah, and he's

1093
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: having gold busts a salad. I mean, yeah, he's craft

1094
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: How does she live? How does she live? I think

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00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: he probably has the most boring. It also sounds like

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: he hasn't totally upgrad and he's like, I don't need

1097
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: a fancy house. Yeah, because he was living in one

1098
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: bedroom when he was running his Mormon dress and bathing

1099
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: for companies, and like husband was like being so shipping fulfillment.

1100
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: It was like so a shark tick update where they're

1101
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: like having so many boxes in their empty living they're

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: going to sleep on like so many rollers. It's also

1103
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: weird how he always is like referencing his husband's job

1104
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: at the hospital, but like Lily, the husband's not a doctor. Yeah,

1105
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: because the husband's the husband is like seems pretty available. Yeah.

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00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: I think there's literally just like one like dark gray wall,

1107
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: one green wall, one like one table, like nothing on

1108
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: the table, like no books on the shelves. It's just

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: like kind of an empty way. I think he has

1110
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: like a big comfortable book about Audrey Hepburn, or not

1111
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: even Audrey Hepburn. It's just kind of like Glamour. It's

1112
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: like Vogue covers, yes, even as specific as Audrey Hepburn.

1113
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: It's just covers from like nineteen forty to nineteen eighty six.

1114
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: And it's like a big comfortable couch that him and

1115
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: his person can like watch American Idol on. Yeah, and

1116
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: I go to about at eight and eat sweets and

1117
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: bon bons. Yeah. It's like it's hotel esque, but not

1118
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: even in this way where you walk. It's not like

1119
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: luck though. No, it's still salt like big proportions. It's

1120
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: comfy for sure. Yeah, like big you know, big chairs

1121
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: like around the island, Whitish Rug Island. I'm like even

1122
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: sleep sleep thinking about this house. And it's like even

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00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: the closet isn't fabulous either. It's like I guess it's

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's like a walking he must have

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: a nice walk in and because he always just like, oh,

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00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: my husband is like his husband is like probably like

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: stealing like a cashmere blazer and he's like, that's mine,

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: rob I hate it when you steal my style and

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: wear like another gray blazer. One just weird thing that

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00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I just want to call him out for. He says

1131
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: that he hasn't gone swimming in like years, and then

1132
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: he references all this time where he's gone swimming. He's like,

1133
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassed my body. I haven't gone swimming years.

1134
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: And then he's like me and Robbert by the pool,

1135
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: like getting ready for the Emmys, Me and Robert in Hawaii. Okay, well,

1136
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: actually I'm going to stop you right there. Okay, Okay,

1137
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Well I love that you are this sleuth and just

1138
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: like doctor Detective is in the house, like you can

1139
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: sit by a pool and not go swimming, and that

1140
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: is a that is a huge element of like a

1141
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of conservative British Mormon culture is sitting by a

1142
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: pool and not getting in the water. But he says

1143
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: he's in his bathing suit lounging by the pool. But again,

1144
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: you can get a bathing suiture go sit by the

1145
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: pool and not going. I feel like that's so many

1146
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: people are just like sit by the pool, and I'm

1147
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: not sure to call myself in because I think there's

1148
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: so many people who actually do not swim and just

1149
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: sit by the pool that I'm always confused by them

1150
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: because I'm such a water well, you are a why

1151
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't you soak yourself? Yeah, and you're always just like

1152
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: time to cool off? He did, Okay, um, who are

1153
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: you in the book? Who am I in the book?

1154
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we're both his like fair Weather, Like

1155
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: the fair Weather probably made fun of him. It's all

1156
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: like and they went out a few times. Yeah, he

1157
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: was ultimately much Yeah, or with the Manchesta mates like

1158
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: who also were drinking too much. I think I'm the

1159
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: Salt Lake frond and you're a man chat. You're a

1160
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: friend of Dave's who was like He's like, if that's

1161
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: your bag to go clubbing and drinking every day in Manchester.

1162
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: You know that guy I slept with who died of

1163
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: autoworotic association is from Salt Lake. Wow. Yeah, so there's

1164
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: sort of a darkness there. But I guess that's why

1165
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think that maybe we are the fair

1166
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Weather So we're fair Brother Friends. It's salt like at

1167
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: a big empty Salt Lake gay club and we're like

1168
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: talk to him and then we're kind of like, I

1169
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Tanna is like a little random sus and really, oh,

1170
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: Tan's in town and we're like and he like invited

1171
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: us to like the launch of a bathing suit on Facebook,

1172
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, I didn't go to Tan's launch.

1173
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Really are there going to be drinks there? But it's

1174
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: ultimately Mormon virginal sty like, so we're pre gaming and

1175
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: then there's like not drinks the law. We're just fucking

1176
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: drinks because it's a fucking morn chaser. We need to

1177
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: launch our own like cocktail business called fair Weather From

1178
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: and it's like bottled drinks to have before dry opening. Yeah,

1179
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: loser friends, dry opening just like they wasted before with

1180
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: fair Weather from fair Weather Friends. It's seven point five

1181
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: alcohol yeah, I was more like, oh, okay, yeah, got

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01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: Our next book is Sharon Stones new memoir, Hot of

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01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: the Press, and it's called How to Live Twice. There's

1184
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: the beauty of Living Twice. Honestly, the cover is insane.

1185
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. Looking back is insane. I've seen so far

1186
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: like this is a real Marquee episode. Yeah. The back

1187
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: of the book also is a blurb from the book

1188
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: that already feels like it's going to be absolutely max

1189
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: for waking up from surgery or something. Yeah, like god

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1194
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Speaker 1: this was so funny. I think this. I think that's

1195
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Speaker 1: so hilarious, Like a proper screen record, super cheeky, super cheeky,

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