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Speaker 3: Oh yo, Team Shot, Win's the All Star game? Forty
Speaker 3: one twent five Overteam Chuck the Ogs. When's the first
Speaker 3: ever new formatted All Star Game? Oh Joe, I know,
Speaker 3: I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. Did you like your format? Listen? I didn't
Speaker 2: like the format. I don't even like the games.
Speaker 5: For one, the players aren't even playing for real obviously,
Speaker 5: it is all star breaking. Want to you want to
Speaker 5: be cautious to make sure You're able to come back
Speaker 5: and get through the All Star break injury free. The format,
Speaker 5: it hasn't made it any more interesting than it was before.
Speaker 5: The point of having this format was to make it
Speaker 5: a more interesting for the viewers for those that are
Speaker 5: basketball fans. But I think they made it maybe five
Speaker 5: or ten times worse than it already was.
Speaker 2: Honest with you, and this is from.
Speaker 5: Someone who who is not a huge basketball fan but
Speaker 5: is getting more into the game of basketball. This didn't
Speaker 5: help any not one bit. I'm not sure what mister
Speaker 5: Silver is gonna do about it. I think maybe at
Speaker 5: the players can come up with a better idea to
Speaker 5: make it interesting.
Speaker 2: This just wasn't it. It just was.
Speaker 3: It's hard to get it back once you lose it.
Speaker 3: We saw that with the Pro Bowl, Yes, sir, and
Speaker 3: I kept trying to tell those guys on Joe, Yes,
Speaker 3: I see guys, they're gonna cancel this. They're not gonna
Speaker 3: keep giving you guys free money like this. You can't
Speaker 3: play touch football in a tackle football league. And y'all say,
Speaker 3: I listen, I'm not telling Look, I want you guys
Speaker 3: to go. You can play. We've done it. I went
Speaker 3: to a number of all Star Games. You went to
Speaker 3: a number of All Star Games. It wasn't like a
Speaker 3: regular season game, but it was like a nice padded
Speaker 3: practice what they were doing. And now, I mean, they're
Speaker 3: just running down, jumping up, shooting three. It's just it's hard,
Speaker 3: o Joe. And when I tell them, I said, man,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to get it back.
Speaker 2: And this is not it. Look I get it.
Speaker 3: I thought the team shot when they played the upp
Speaker 3: the Rising Stars, I thought they played harder than I was. Like,
Speaker 3: you know what if the East and West actually played
Speaker 3: like this, Yeah, okay, this might be doable, oh Joe.
Speaker 5: But then you're not gonna You're not gonna get the
Speaker 5: Stars to play like that. You know them boys even
Speaker 5: to go out there playing hard like that.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you try one on one, Maybe you try horse.
Speaker 3: You gotta try something on your because this just ain't
Speaker 3: cutting it. But you know it's not cutting it.
Speaker 5: You know, horse ain't The horse is not going to
Speaker 5: to get the viewers. That's not going to grab you attention.
Speaker 5: You have to have some type of format that's going
Speaker 5: to grab the viewers' attention and had them locked in
Speaker 5: the entirely of the time. If anything, I say, bring
Speaker 5: back the East West and let's say the winner gets
Speaker 5: home at home home court advantage or something. Do it
Speaker 5: buying where eighteen puts up a million dollars. You know,
Speaker 5: if money is an incentive, they will play unh You
Speaker 5: know that's what about. They already had a few money,
Speaker 5: So what is an incidive for them to play hard.
Speaker 3: Well, they used to be ojo before they started reading
Speaker 3: the revenue because when I first went to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 3: the winners got ten thousand and the losers got five. Well,
Speaker 3: you really needed that money because if you invited ten
Speaker 3: to eleven people, that ten thousand was gone.
Speaker 2: You damn sure better try to win that. That's your
Speaker 2: overhead it.
Speaker 3: You better damn sure better try to win that game
Speaker 3: on Joe to uh to offset some of that cost.
Speaker 3: But I just don't I just don't really know how
Speaker 3: the NBA can get it back because the guys have
Speaker 3: made a decision.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna play hard. They're just not Ojo.
Speaker 5: I just told you, listen, get it back to the
Speaker 5: East versus the West. Yes, have a pot, have a pot,
Speaker 5: have the play and you know the players. Let the
Speaker 5: NBA put up the pot let's say five million dollars,
Speaker 5: say five million, and the players get to spit that
Speaker 5: five million, they get a cut. That's the only way
Speaker 5: it has to be in order feeling to play hard.
Speaker 5: It has to be incentivized with money. Nothing else. There
Speaker 5: is no format that's gonna get them to play hard.
Speaker 3: Thank you about what you just said, O Joe. I've
Speaker 3: got if. Some of these guys got two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty and three hundred million and three hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: million dollar contract and I've got to incentive Now, I
Speaker 3: got to incentivize you for you to showcase your sport.
Speaker 2: Well, let us think it. Think about what you're just
Speaker 2: I've got the fuck.
Speaker 3: I've got to further incentivize you to showcase your sport.
Speaker 3: So this is one of the collection of the NBA's
Speaker 3: best player twenty four of the best NBA players. Now
Speaker 3: I need to further incentivize you. It used to be
Speaker 3: an honor to go to the All Star Game. It
Speaker 3: used to be an honor to go to the Pro Bowl, right,
Speaker 3: Oh cha, what happened?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: You know why you have to incentivize it. We're in
Speaker 5: a different why we're in a different era. All Star break.
Speaker 5: That's PTO. That's the player's PTO. This is my time off,
Speaker 5: So you're telling me I need to work doing my break. Okay,
Speaker 5: you know what, I made the All Star team. I'm
Speaker 5: an All Star. It's a great achievement, you know what.
Speaker 5: I am honored at the midway point, you feel I
Speaker 5: played to a certain level while I'm worthy of being one.
Speaker 5: But you know what, if you're not paying me right
Speaker 5: like I'm being paid during the regular season where I do,
Speaker 5: go on, nobody plays the All Stars like that NFL,
Speaker 5: you don't get paid like you're in the regular season.
Speaker 3: On Joe baseball, hockey, Oh Joe, think about this. So
Speaker 3: if it doesn't mean that much to you, why the
Speaker 3: hell they complain when they don't make it. Because every
Speaker 3: year we hear NFL players complaining they didn't make the
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, and we basketball players complain and we see
Speaker 3: all of this.
Speaker 2: But now when you get there, you don't want to play.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you why they complain when they'll make
Speaker 5: the All Star Because they understand when they make the
Speaker 5: All Star, when their resume look good, when it's time
Speaker 5: to get paid. Understand that is leverage for their agents.
Speaker 5: When it's when it's time to talk contract negotiations. Yes,
Speaker 5: I'm an all star, I'm all pro. You know, whatever
Speaker 5: it is. It may be that LEAs don't go oh joe.
Speaker 5: You know how it is once you get tired, once
Speaker 5: you reach a certain level. What did Tom Brady do?
Speaker 5: He stopped going a lot of these quarterbacks they stop
Speaker 5: going right right, Okay, let somebody else have that spot
Speaker 5: that's going to be inspired to play and play and play.
Speaker 5: That's what I did with ad Man who the back
Speaker 5: of who first aft in it a bro, I'm out
Speaker 5: go ahead and take it, cause I understand, like you said,
Speaker 5: gonna look good in their resume.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go over there, bull drive around. I
Speaker 3: did one year, but I was in a contract year.
Speaker 3: Well in the contract, yeah, hey, contract year. I said,
Speaker 3: oh no, y'all not finish. I'm not finna get in
Speaker 3: and we ain't take the two tight ends. And Tom
Speaker 3: Complin was running double tight end. I said, y'all, kiss
Speaker 3: my butt. I'm out of this thing. I say, I'm
Speaker 3: out of here. First quarter, I went and got me
Speaker 3: to two ice bags put on both knees. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they were hurting or not, but they felt good.
Speaker 3: After the game. But I just this, this buzz this
Speaker 3: bugs me, Ojo. I really hate it because this is
Speaker 3: an opportunity. I grew up watching the All Star Game
Speaker 3: and watching Bird and Magic them go at it. I
Speaker 3: sailed them, and you see the younger Cats guard that
Speaker 3: in Kobe, it was trying to beat the these guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know, O Joe. I'll be honest.
Speaker 3: I don't know when this happened, whether the disconnect was like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's just dunk and shoot threes.
Speaker 2: Ain't no defense, don't shoot threes.
Speaker 3: I don't know whenning in the Pro Bowl that they
Speaker 3: decided they want to play two hand touched. I don't
Speaker 3: know the exact year, but I knew the exact moment
Speaker 3: when I said, you know what, they're gonna cut this inshot?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, who comes up with a format? Huh,
Speaker 5: mister Silver, You.
Speaker 2: Know, well, he just trying. He's trying stuff. You see baseball.
Speaker 3: See if I get it in baseball, Oh Joe, you
Speaker 3: throw the ball, you try to put bat on ball,
Speaker 3: and you run the base, you try to catch. But
Speaker 3: it says, okay, whoever wins the all whoever wins the
Speaker 3: All Star Game, that's who has home court home field
Speaker 3: throughout the playoffs. Well, maybe you might need to do
Speaker 3: that for the for the All Star Game instead of
Speaker 3: the best record win the All Star Game.
Speaker 5: You know who needs you know who needs to come
Speaker 5: up with the format for it for to be interesting
Speaker 5: to get the players to play who the players.
Speaker 2: Players? But you know what, you don't wanna kill me
Speaker 2: all these players?
Speaker 3: Oh Michael Jordan, Oh Kobe, and not go look at
Speaker 3: Kobe and Michael Jordan all start gameing.
Speaker 2: Oh they y'all love them so much, they're going all out.
Speaker 2: But that's what I don't get.
Speaker 3: I love the Mamba mentality and black Jesus. And then
Speaker 3: y'all get over there, y'all lay it down. See that's
Speaker 3: the problem I got on yow ain't gotta listen. And
Speaker 3: guys that make it, I think they're more than they've
Speaker 3: earned that right to be there.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, but you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't applaud and lawn someone for how they approach
Speaker 3: the game and then you go over there and you
Speaker 3: lay it down because that's what y'all do, right, that's
Speaker 3: what y'all do.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they need to have Michael Jordan come in
Speaker 5: there and give them a pep talk. Na, Mike, Mike
Speaker 5: chilling with that cigar man. Mike ain't coming there and
Speaker 5: talk nothing. But I'm telling you, I'm telling you what
Speaker 5: the fore man needs to be.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact.
Speaker 5: You know what you can do sometime You can listen
Speaker 5: to the people. That that could that could always be one.
Speaker 5: If you don't listen to the people and it's not working,
Speaker 5: the format not working with the NBA officials who create
Speaker 5: the format.
Speaker 2: Leave it in the player's hands.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, they left it in the player's hand. You see,
Speaker 3: you got two or les to what eighty six? You
Speaker 3: got shooting threes in dunks. They left it in the
Speaker 3: players head, and that's what you got. Don't let the
Speaker 3: players players f it up. They left it in the
Speaker 3: players head, just like the Pro Bowl and what happened
Speaker 3: on Joe.
Speaker 2: You got no game no more. You got the skills
Speaker 2: competition flag flag football.
Speaker 3: Yes, so no, do not leave it up to the players.
Speaker 3: That's the problem they left it. The problem is is
Speaker 3: that they gave the players too much control. Somebody decided
Speaker 3: this is the way we're gonna do it. They tried everything. Well,
Speaker 3: whoever wins this quarter gets three hundred thousand for their
Speaker 3: favorite for the Boys and Girls Club and your favorite
Speaker 3: the charity that was adopted. That didn't work. They tried
Speaker 3: something else that didn't work. This right here was a book. Look,
Speaker 3: I Love I Love Jimmy and mister Bee's and he
Speaker 3: come out there and the kid won one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: But come on, man, at some point in time, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's still basketball game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all these gimmicks and all that other stuff. Oh Joe,
Speaker 5: it's still the fundamentals.
Speaker 3: Look the MLB they have the home run derby, right,
Speaker 3: but you still it's an All Star game.
Speaker 2: You put back on ball. That's what it's about.
Speaker 3: Football is about catching, running, and tickling basketball. They play
Speaker 3: tougher at UCLA. They play tougher at the Summit in
Speaker 3: New York. Now you mean to tell me you're gonna
Speaker 3: do that in the offseason, But come All Star Game
Speaker 3: when it's the opportunity for you to showcase for the
Speaker 3: world to see.
Speaker 2: Lay it down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then y'all wonder why the ratings, don't wonder,
Speaker 5: don't wonder why the ratings are falling.
Speaker 2: You know why. But also, now you got to be
Speaker 2: careful that now we're asking for the players to play a.
Speaker 5: Little bit harder, a little bit harder the All Star
Speaker 5: Game own great, Now we're happened when somebody get hurt?
Speaker 2: Then what old Joe at the fifty years before they
Speaker 2: did this.
Speaker 3: So you make it seem like all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this is a new, something new, like they just instituted
Speaker 3: an All Star game and asking these guys, so you
Speaker 3: know what, play basketball. You make it seem like they
Speaker 3: just two to the Pro Bowl and ask them guys
Speaker 3: to tackle and catch and run.
Speaker 2: They've been doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only thing that we didn't try. They didn't try
Speaker 3: to do was kill the quarterback. They didn't try to
Speaker 3: kill the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But other than that, yeah, you got tackle. God didn't
Speaker 5: got to catch you come across the middle. He ain't
Speaker 5: gonna really try to lay into you. He might have
Speaker 5: put a shoulder to you. But you know, I got uh.
Speaker 5: They threw me a scene one year and run it.
Speaker 5: I saw him. I just braced. That's all I could do.
Speaker 5: He ain't go all out.
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm not gonna go all out, But you got
Speaker 3: to do more than what they're doing.
Speaker 2: That's just not nearly good enough. What I enjoyed. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you're air.
Speaker 5: In my era, when it came time to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 5: we played some football and now yeah we didn't. We
Speaker 5: didn't like try to knock somebody's head off. But no,
Speaker 5: we thought up. Now, we thought up, you're gonna thut
Speaker 5: up real good? Right, you know I'm here now, I'm here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Remember when when Sean Remember when Sean Taylor caught the punter? Yeah,
Speaker 5: Brian Moran, I was like, yeah, yeah, man, stop playing.
Speaker 2: But I get it.
Speaker 3: But I mean, but I just don't know. I just
Speaker 3: don't know what else something needs to happen. But I mean,
Speaker 3: because you know, I don't know how salaries keep increasing
Speaker 3: if the fan viewership keeps decreasing.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know they're about to lock their start next year.
Speaker 5: They on a new what how about a billion eleven
Speaker 5: billion dollars I think they got eleven was ten eleven
Speaker 5: billion dollars with Amazon, NBC ESPN. Eleven billion. Yeah, over
Speaker 5: the over the next over the next ten years or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, Oh.
Speaker 3: Eleven year deal worth seventy six billion. Come on, salaries
Speaker 3: are going thank thank about it. Salary are going super
Speaker 3: Max players with one team? You be on one team,
Speaker 3: you make x amount of all the NBA teams three
Speaker 3: fifth in five years, that's gonna be four hundred million.
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna be wanting their money.
Speaker 5: Now, y'all get mad when teams trade y'all and keep
Speaker 5: y'all from getting that super max contract, cause you feel
Speaker 5: a lot of people think it.
Speaker 3: That's what they did with Luca. They keep from paying
Speaker 3: three fifty. Hey, nah, we got this thing under control.
Speaker 3: So don't get hey, I just like I told you
Speaker 3: the other night, Oh Joe, don't get mad about a
Speaker 3: problem you created.
Speaker 2: Is right?
Speaker 5: I got a question now, I understand that Luca and
Speaker 5: his greatness, especially on the court, they traded him away
Speaker 5: because of the things that were going on off the
Speaker 5: court in which they went didn't want to be on
Speaker 5: hand to pay him three hundred fifty million for that Supermax.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me another player who's in line to
Speaker 2: get a Supermax?
Speaker 3: Uh, Shae can get one, But Shave's onna be two ninety.
Speaker 2: So what's the difference.
Speaker 5: Why is his two ninety and Luca Zone's gonna be
Speaker 5: through fifty.
Speaker 3: Cause Luca but that's not Shane's original team. Shay got
Speaker 3: traded from the Clippers.
Speaker 5: Clippers right, why they wait, wait, wait a minute, why
Speaker 5: they Why are they pushing him for him getting traded.
Speaker 3: Because they called that they called that Bird Rights team
Speaker 3: that drafted you, Ladd Bird. You could you could play
Speaker 3: a guy up team and it doesn't count as much
Speaker 3: against the cap, or doesn't count anything against the crack cap.
Speaker 2: Oh hell oh they are man.
Speaker 5: So he meant now he missing out on money because
Speaker 5: y'all decided to trade me. As matter of fact, if
Speaker 5: you look back at it now, you should.
Speaker 2: Have kept you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Clippers should have kept it because they traded
Speaker 3: what they wanted. They Paul Kawhi was gonna go to
Speaker 3: the Lakers unless they got him Paul George, And that
Speaker 3: was one of the things that was one of the
Speaker 3: pieces that they wanted.
Speaker 2: They wanted uh uh.
Speaker 3: They wanted Shade, they wanted Gallinari, they wanted all those
Speaker 3: first round pick up protect the picks, they wanted all
Speaker 3: that those pick swaps. And they got it and Shade
Speaker 3: his blossom. Reports said Doc did not want to do him, saying, hey, Kawhi,
Speaker 3: just give this guy a little time.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be special. QUI say, I don't got time,
Speaker 2: and there it is. Yes, so.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's I just like I said, I mean
Speaker 3: the dunk contest. I mean Clung, he's handedly saving the
Speaker 3: dunk contest.
Speaker 5: Listen, but it is he man. What is what I
Speaker 5: like about it? I like the reaction from the players.
Speaker 5: I like the reaction to the players. I like the
Speaker 5: reaction from Zach Levant, Zach Levie. I like the reactions
Speaker 5: with John Moron, with them boys want to now that
Speaker 5: that will make it exciting again, I'm not sure if they.
Speaker 3: We've heard that before. Huh, we've heard that before. Guys
Speaker 3: get excited. Oh if you do it next year, I'll
Speaker 3: do it next year if you do, and may never happened.
Speaker 5: Now, now, listen, we talked about two dunkers. Now we
Speaker 5: ain't just talk about know anybody. We talk about two
Speaker 5: people that are creative.
Speaker 3: We've seen we we we we we've seen and heard
Speaker 3: that before. We'll see. I hope it happens. I hope
Speaker 3: they come back and they play. Matt McClung says, naw,
Speaker 3: y'all need to give me a million dollar appearance feet
Speaker 3: and if I win, I take that little meets me
Speaker 3: one ten. I ain't just coming back. I ain't just
Speaker 3: coming back. And if I don't win, I don't get nothing.
Speaker 3: No y'all will give me a I'm a free I'm
Speaker 3: the only guy in NBA history to win three can
Speaker 3: take it the dunk context.
Speaker 5: I have a question, Uh, yes, how can he continue
Speaker 5: to elevate and involve his game outside of Duncan so
Speaker 5: he can have an opportunity to play it at the
Speaker 5: highest level.
Speaker 3: Well, he seemingly can't get out of the G League.
Speaker 3: He was on the Lakers and had a couple of
Speaker 3: good had a couple of good runs. But he and
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves came in to say didn't he oust Reeves
Speaker 3: come in together, and you see oster Reeds just.
Speaker 2: Get better and better and better and better. How tall
Speaker 2: is awesome?
Speaker 5: Reads?
Speaker 3: You think probably like six four six ' five. Well,
Speaker 3: how tall is mcloon six two? That's why it looks
Speaker 3: so good when he dunk.
Speaker 2: There's your problem. He's elevating, yep.
Speaker 5: But there there's your problem as well, though you and
Speaker 5: if you're six to two and then going to play
Speaker 5: in the NBA at the highest level, do you understand
Speaker 5: how special you have to be yes, you have to
Speaker 5: be how's tall in John morn.
Speaker 2: Trom six to two?
Speaker 5: You see the difference special it's only one of them,
Speaker 5: and it's only one of the man NBA. It's only
Speaker 5: one job. Yeah, yeah, But the thing is you got
Speaker 5: to do more than jump high. Oh yeah, you got
Speaker 5: to be explored John Jock and joh has handles. He
Speaker 5: can get to the rim. It's slithery. Do you get fitted?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Everything. He's gotten better at shooting. He's got better
Speaker 2: at shooting. Yeah. Uh, you know, Matt, he has the jumping.
Speaker 3: Now to got work On another aspect, Graymond Green says
Speaker 3: players on the Rising Stars don't deserve the privilege to
Speaker 3: play on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Do you agree, O.
Speaker 5: Joe, that's not nice. I mean, if they're riding the Stars,
Speaker 5: look at the name. What are they called again?
Speaker 2: On the what Rising Stars? That means, hey, Dray Bond.
Speaker 3: Had y'all guys done what you're supposed to guess what,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Your commissioners trying anything to drum up interest in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you creating a problem. And then when they other people
Speaker 3: try to solve and rectify the problems that you guys created,
Speaker 3: you get mad. How about you guys flail a little harder,
Speaker 3: and the rising Stars wouldn't be playing on Sunday.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't have had.
Speaker 3: This far back four teams and divided up and this
Speaker 3: and that and the game goes to parting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm confused.
Speaker 3: But what I'm confused Why he's upset for a problem
Speaker 3: they created.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't agree with Draymond, but obviously he's feeling he
Speaker 5: might be the voice of reason for other players as well.
Speaker 5: That feels like the writing Stars shouldn't be playing, shouldn't
Speaker 5: be playing.
Speaker 2: But listen again, they wouldn't be.
Speaker 5: When Draymond needs to do is get with Lebron, get
Speaker 5: with some of the other veteran heads in the NBA,
Speaker 5: and figure out a way to get the interest back.
Speaker 2: And only the only thing I can think of, and I.
Speaker 5: Know the n ME might not like it, is they
Speaker 5: need to incentivize it even more to getting them boys
Speaker 5: to play hard. Go back to the East and West
Speaker 5: and have a pot of money that the winner can
Speaker 5: split the matter of fact, and the loser don't get nothing.
Speaker 5: The loose shoe get nothing. Oh Joe, you making seventy
Speaker 5: million dollars a year. You're gonna get it centiviized. You're
Speaker 5: gonna get it excited about a million dollars. Stop it,
Speaker 5: old Joe, I stole a million, I said five, Oh Joe,
Speaker 5: Then oh think about it.
Speaker 3: Every one of every I guarantee you, every one of
Speaker 3: those guys today that was on that court pulled up
Speaker 3: in a private jet after the game. They're gonna get
Speaker 3: in that private jet and go to wherever they're going. Right,
Speaker 3: it ain't money, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: And listen.
Speaker 3: Money might have been a modivating factor for them to
Speaker 3: get to that level, right, but after that, after perceived
Speaker 3: That's what you have to really really appreciate about the
Speaker 3: really really great, right the Brady's, the Jordan's, Da Kobe.
Speaker 5: After they had all the money and nothing, had all
Speaker 5: the fame, nothing changed, they still played it that they
Speaker 5: were flat ass broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Chase that I mean that.
Speaker 3: Now we gotta continue, we gotta continuously incentivize it. I've
Speaker 3: got to ask a guy, hey, bro for extra five
Speaker 3: hundred thousand when you play hard, when you're making fifty million,
Speaker 3: when you're making fifty million on the court and you're
Speaker 3: making another twenty five to thirty off the court. But
Speaker 3: can you just just just want just do this for
Speaker 3: us different that that that that it is different. At
Speaker 3: some point in time, they're gonna have to come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion that the game is not gonna be played.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 5: How about I got another one? I got another one.
Speaker 5: How would you like to see this? Now you might
Speaker 5: not like it. I'm just throwing this out there. We
Speaker 5: have all these people in the world that play La
Speaker 5: Fitness on the park. What do you think about cimillions
Speaker 5: playing the NBA players on All Star Break?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Yay, they remember they was complaining. They complained about Mac McClung.
Speaker 3: He was in the G League. They complained about him
Speaker 3: being in the Dunk contest. You think they're gonna be
Speaker 3: excited about somebody coming off the street.
Speaker 5: And I'm listening, I'm just trying to think of things
Speaker 5: that he that will get the viewer's attention. Now, bad
Speaker 5: it get the viewers attention because you got dudes that
Speaker 5: playhoop that never made it, getting get stars, getting stars
Speaker 5: get fans attention.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, why you stars? Why you think team want
Speaker 3: to get them?
Speaker 5: Hold on, If stars get fans attention, then the viewership
Speaker 5: wouldn't be declining, but.
Speaker 2: They not playing hard.
Speaker 3: He you, oh Joe, When you come down and you
Speaker 3: see a team shooting fifty five, sixty seventy threes, what's
Speaker 3: excited about that?
Speaker 2: When you miss it?
Speaker 3: When you missing the fifty or sixty of them, you
Speaker 3: take sixty five, you take seventy threes, and you miss
Speaker 3: fifty five of them.
Speaker 2: Right, clink clink, clank clank. Nobody run, Nobody runs.
Speaker 3: Hey, you get a three man break, Everybody run behind
Speaker 3: the line and try to spot up four three. Nobody
Speaker 3: goes to the nobody goes to the whole. That's not
Speaker 3: nothing excited about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, you're right. I don't have an answer.
Speaker 5: I don't have an answer. Somebody do. But they got
Speaker 5: to come up with something. They gotta cut. They really
Speaker 5: don't have to castle the game.
Speaker 2: It's okay, And it wouldn't be no All Star break,
Speaker 2: Yes it would. You still have the three point competition,
Speaker 2: you have the skills Challenge. Oh okay, okay, just cancel. Okay,
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. Yeah, the All Star Game.
Speaker 3: Hey, you get selected the All Star you're not gonna
Speaker 3: go play, Hey, skills Challenge you want to do the
Speaker 3: skills challenge, you want to participate in something, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: but there will not be a game on Sunday, Okay,
Speaker 3: cause y'all ruined it.
Speaker 5: That's a good way. That's a good way to look
Speaker 5: at it. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But I like where you. I like where your mind
Speaker 2: is at.
Speaker 3: Lebron sits side of the All Star Game. It's his
Speaker 3: first time missing an All Star Game in his career
Speaker 3: year twenty two. He's did twenty one time start a
Speaker 3: player because of lingering discomforted his left foot in a
Speaker 3: do you agree? Lebron accepted knowing he probably wouldn't play right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but that twenty times before.
Speaker 5: That hadn't okay, So why he's the Rays earned the
Speaker 5: right to be able to sit out in the All
Speaker 5: Star Game where they're not going to be playing serious anyway,
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 2: Exactly sit out. Now.
Speaker 3: Let Norman Pole get an All Star Game selection. Just
Speaker 3: like Yiannis Yais knew he had the league had a
Speaker 3: little slight injury. He pulled out. Now Trey Young is
Speaker 3: a four time All Star selection. That's the problem that
Speaker 3: I got. You're right, He've earned the right but he
Speaker 3: didn't come. He didn't get it until Saturday. You know
Speaker 3: you're not gonna play. Why you block somebody else from playing?
Speaker 3: That's just like just like you, Oh Joe, you know
Speaker 3: you're not gonna play in the Pro Bowl something your
Speaker 3: first alter that, But you go over there.
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, man, now, hold on, now, what is
Speaker 2: Lebron even though he wasn't playing one to be there
Speaker 2: and be part of the team. Jannis was there? Did
Speaker 2: you not see Giannison? That you what's there?
Speaker 5: Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
Speaker 5: He should have pulled out completely. In general, Yes, okay,
Speaker 5: I see they obviously they still gonna let him come.
Speaker 5: He's still the biggest, biggest name in basketball. Sure, they're
Speaker 5: gonna love to love to have him come.
Speaker 3: Let him walk, get introduced and year twenty one and
Speaker 3: year twenty two or twenty one time starter NBA starting
Speaker 3: for Lebron James, give him that.
Speaker 2: Let the fans see that.
Speaker 3: Bro. Come on, man, Norman Pole deserved to be I
Speaker 3: thought Norman he didn't deserve it. He earned the right
Speaker 3: to be there with the way he's played in the
Speaker 3: first half of the season. Now, I ain't breaking news
Speaker 3: to the chat. Y'all know, I'm the biggest fan of
Speaker 3: Lebron's biggest supporter, right being that, But I disagree. I
Speaker 3: I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly, extrenuously disagree with the decision to make
Speaker 3: this announcement the day of the All Star Game. He
Speaker 3: knew he wasn't gonna play. Y'all think Lebron just made
Speaker 3: this decision today? Really?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm? Anybody thinks that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: But but and honestly, uh, I can't even be mad
Speaker 5: at him, because we talked.
Speaker 2: This is Lebron, I mean this, this is Lebron.
Speaker 5: If if there's one person that you know what, if
Speaker 5: if I'm not gonna play, I earned every right to
Speaker 5: decide Sunday morning or the side Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: No, Lebron James is not bigger than the game of basketball.
Speaker 2: I didn't say. I didn't say it was bigger than
Speaker 2: you thought. He earned the right. No, he has not. No,
Speaker 2: you have it.
Speaker 5: No, I definitely Oh and no, no, I I vehemently
Speaker 5: disagree with you on that. If Lebron, Lebron James, the
Speaker 5: all time leading scorer in the NBA, decides, you know
Speaker 5: what at the All Star Game this Sunday, you know
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to play, he said, see no, see no, No,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he doesn't have that right. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: saying he doesn't have the right to do that Sunday
Speaker 3: to day of the game. Make that decision on Thursday
Speaker 3: when you're telling you the team, now shock team only
Speaker 3: has seven players. They're down a man, seven players, five players,
Speaker 3: four players. They ain't even playing for real. They might
Speaker 3: play one on one. You just said it yourself. They
Speaker 3: just shooting three. They might just play horse. Okay, So
Speaker 3: he can't do he couldn't do that. Okay, do what
Speaker 3: Janni's did. Janna says, I'm not gonna play. And guess what,
Speaker 3: Trey got to come. Norman Power would have got an
Speaker 3: opportunity to come.
Speaker 5: I have a question, Yes, what if what if it
Speaker 5: was a lingering issue and it didn't flare up until
Speaker 5: he got there?
Speaker 2: Man, stop it, o Joe. I'm just I'm asking a question.
Speaker 5: That's and Lincoln. So, so what did he do to
Speaker 5: call it to flare up? You know, you know, shit
Speaker 5: be acting up now when you hit your forties? Now,
Speaker 5: what did he do to call the laguer? Did he
Speaker 5: play basketball in between Wednesday night today. He just played Wednesday. Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Wednesday, he played Wednesday, Remember, yeah, he played Thursday, was off.
Speaker 2: Friday, he was off Saturday, he was off Sunday.
Speaker 3: He makes an announcement that he's not gonna play an
Speaker 3: All Star game.
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 3: What did he do in between Wednesday after the game
Speaker 3: and today that calls it to flare up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question. I
Speaker 5: will I will text him and ask him. But you know,
Speaker 5: I kind of I agree and disagree with you, honestly
Speaker 5: because it is Lebron and the fact that he's made
Speaker 5: the All Star for his twenty twenty first year, if
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, twenty one straight start, twenty one straight,
Speaker 5: you know, and he wanted to actually be there even
Speaker 5: if he didn't play, And I think that's why he didn't.
Speaker 2: Pull the joke. He could have. Jannis is there, Joanne?
Speaker 5: That's Janni's did we talk about Lebron? Lebron said he.
Speaker 2: Wanted to be there. He could have come and do
Speaker 2: exactly what he did. Nothing, Yell, I listen.
Speaker 5: I I agree with you to an extent, and there's
Speaker 5: another side of me that doesn't agree with you.
Speaker 2: So I I get what you're saying. That's just that's
Speaker 2: what to do. That's all o Cho that is.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, yes, sir, you know I don't want
Speaker 3: to play, but don't show Ojo. You know good, Well,
Speaker 3: if you've been fit for three days, why you show
Speaker 3: up on the people job and then walk into work.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna be able to come to work today.
Speaker 3: You could have called in to do that, so we
Speaker 3: could have had somebody to come in and field fill
Speaker 3: up your job. Now now you leave it, we ain't
Speaker 3: got nobody to feel the spot, right, Why you come?
Speaker 3: Why did you come? Tell Ojo? Why did you come?
Speaker 3: Tell me you're not gonna be able to work today?
Speaker 2: Did that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 2: I just like, like I.
Speaker 3: Said, Look, hey, y'all know how I feel about Lebron,
Speaker 3: but I don't disagree with him on this one. These
Speaker 3: disagrees e streniously and vihiblely on this on this decision.
Speaker 3: Oh no, hey, let's take a listen to Lebron's explanation
Speaker 3: of why he didn't play.
Speaker 2: Kind of more a maintenance type of wearing terarra situation.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a little bit of both, you know,
Speaker 6: I was hoping that it would feel a lot better
Speaker 6: this morning, you know, but it's it's not as where
Speaker 6: I wanted to be, and you know what, thirty games
Speaker 6: left and us trying to make a playoff push in
Speaker 6: the Wild Wild West. I felt like it was very
Speaker 6: important for me to kind of take care of myself
Speaker 6: and understand, you know, what's what's coming on.
Speaker 2: So I want to say it's maintenance.
Speaker 6: Well, it is maintenance, but at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 6: you know, I have to look out for myself when
Speaker 6: it comes to this, to this injury that I've been
Speaker 6: dealing with for years.
Speaker 3: See, yeah, okay, the Lemons ship quest, there's thirty let
Speaker 3: me Shaques, So I just want to know this little
Speaker 3: till maybe you can help me out with this talk
Speaker 3: to So, when did he realize that they needed to
Speaker 3: make a playoff push? There was thirty games left and
Speaker 3: they're in the Wild Wild West. Was it Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
Speaker 3: Or was it Sunday morning three hours before the game?
Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to figure out when did that
Speaker 3: dawn on him?
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Man, We're in the toughest conference, the Western Conference. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's only thirty games left this is the wild wild West.
Speaker 3: We need to make a payoff, playoff push. So I'm
Speaker 3: just asking you, humbly, when did he come to that conclusion,
Speaker 3: you know, humbly answering.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure when he came to the conclusion. But again,
Speaker 5: we talked about Lebron James. We talked about the Lebron
Speaker 5: James who has thirty games left and he's deciding he's
Speaker 5: deciding to take the All Star break off and letterally
Speaker 5: take it all the way off. I understand your point
Speaker 5: and saying, you know what, if you're not going to
Speaker 5: play in the game, allow someone else to come in
Speaker 5: and you can still attend.
Speaker 2: He chose not to go that route. In him choosing
Speaker 2: not to go that route, I still agree.
Speaker 5: With him because it's Lebron James and that's what he
Speaker 5: decided and felt was best for him to do.
Speaker 3: But guess what talk to me. Tell the people at
Speaker 3: home when you fly. What happened to joints?
Speaker 2: What they do? O Joe flare up? Oh so you
Speaker 2: beat a tempee? He got on a plane altitude with
Speaker 2: joint swell? Ain'tle Swell needs swell? Yeah? You mean he
Speaker 2: could have stayed at la and nurse those injuries. You
Speaker 2: don't say, oh, cho, that's a goo one, that's a go,
Speaker 2: that's a good one.
Speaker 3: A lot of times, you know, if you have things
Speaker 3: like knees and stuff like that, they might wouldn't let
Speaker 3: you travel because I mean, you traveling it doesn't help it.
Speaker 2: Nah, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: So that's all I'm saying. Lebron has a right. But
Speaker 3: I'm just saying nothing changes. If he makes this decision
Speaker 3: on Thursday, he still gets an opportunity to come. He
Speaker 3: still the crowd still gets to hear him introjuice. Norman
Speaker 3: Pole gets his excuse me, his first All Star Game selection.
Speaker 2: No harm, no foul. That's all I'm saying. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 2: Got you, I got you, I hear you.
Speaker 5: It's just that uh And like I said, normal, I
Speaker 5: think Norman Powells has earned the right based on what
Speaker 5: he even before, Like when James Hard not James Harden
Speaker 5: earned the right to be there.
Speaker 2: But early in the.
Speaker 3: Season, Power was cooking for power with the what now
Speaker 3: James has gotten it going early scoring doing what he did.
Speaker 3: You know, James always gonna be able to quarter ball,
Speaker 3: but mainly he was facilitating, you know, getting you know,
Speaker 3: Tenel says getting level of says things like that, Norman
Speaker 3: Power is a straight Hey, let the rip, James come
Speaker 3: up and James and now they got a qui back.
Speaker 2: So they got three scores. They're playing really, really well.
Speaker 3: But I would love I would have loved to see
Speaker 3: Norman Powell get an opportunity for his first All struggle.
Speaker 2: But you know what he gotta do. You got to
Speaker 2: use that as motivation. God damn Lebron don't want to move.
Speaker 5: By the way, Lebron ain't want to give up a spot, boy,
Speaker 5: you gotta do something else.
Speaker 7: You gotta come a little harder next year. Oh Joe,
Speaker 7: he's never gonna get voted in With the fans. Trey
Speaker 7: Young is leading the All, leading the league and assists
Speaker 7: and it's not close. He didn't get voted in. He
Speaker 7: had to or somebody had to get pulled. The players,
Speaker 7: the players and.
Speaker 3: What you call him and what you call him the
Speaker 3: fans like, okay, Trey, if y'all just doesn't pull out,
Speaker 3: he doesn't go.
Speaker 2: Last year he was twenty seven and ten, he didn't go.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now,
Speaker 5: hold on now, wait a minute, now, my little nephew,
Speaker 5: my little cousin. My little cousin ain't played the night either,
Speaker 5: So we got the same manage, we got that same energy.
Speaker 2: Man, man nephew ain't played the night either.
Speaker 3: Man, the reports are that he was sick. Now, I
Speaker 3: don't know if he got sick.
Speaker 5: So when did he get sick. Did he get sick Wednesday?
Speaker 5: Did he get sick Thursday? Did he get sick Fried?
Speaker 2: We don't. We won't know. But here's the thing. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing.
Speaker 3: No, oh Joe, look and man hate to draw Lebron
Speaker 3: is it's not gonna make it's not gonna treat I
Speaker 3: mean people do I see people in the chat talk
Speaker 3: about what about what about at really y'all compared to
Speaker 3: at Lebron. All I'm saying is, look, Lebron, just let
Speaker 3: what you call him, Norman Power go.
Speaker 2: He's still gonna.
Speaker 5: Get introduced, just like they introduced a man.
Speaker 3: You see a man, let's give it up a mad man.
Speaker 3: He walked down and he walked down there there applauded it.
Speaker 2: You hey, holdo, you heard what you just said, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: you just said.
Speaker 5: I know, y'all not comparing ant Man to Lebron but
Speaker 5: you saying no, you saying Lebron should have pulled out
Speaker 5: for somebody else.
Speaker 3: Lebron should have pulled out for Norman Power. I don't
Speaker 3: know who. Look, my thing is, this is how I am, Joe,
Speaker 3: This is how I operate. If if I'm not gonna play,
Speaker 3: I'm letting somebody else go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but see you you you talk about what you
Speaker 5: would have done. We talk about Lebron and Lebron don't
Speaker 5: want to move the way you would move and make
Speaker 5: the decisions you're honest with.
Speaker 3: Why it's still it's pretty one because, oh Joe, what
Speaker 3: I once I found out that, Hey, it's not like
Speaker 3: they're gonna take what if I don't go, they gonna
Speaker 3: take my my Pro Bowl start away? Because then I
Speaker 3: just go ahead, Hey, I'll be on crutching going over there,
Speaker 3: old choke and I need this, but I need this,
Speaker 3: Hey cuse and and I was first all to the
Speaker 3: three times old Choke, right right, So I just think, Hey,
Speaker 3: in fourteen season, Sharon Shark goes the liven Pro Bowls.
Speaker 3: That looks better than Ain't doning it? And yes it does,
Speaker 3: but I just loove, Like I said, I don't know
Speaker 3: ad situation they said he was sick and probably got
Speaker 3: a lot of other stuff on his mind. But like
Speaker 3: I said, that's the only that's the only thing. And
Speaker 3: I don't have a whole lot of critiques or criticism
Speaker 3: and lebron because I think he's got enough of that.
Speaker 2: Ye in this social media a in this social media era.
Speaker 3: But if a man knew he was sick on Thursday,
Speaker 3: get your ass out the way too, you know, man
Speaker 3: it no, I have I keep it a. I keep
Speaker 3: it right down, oh right down in the middle. And
Speaker 3: if you were sick under the weather, I don't know
Speaker 3: who who who's the uh, who's another who's another team
Speaker 3: guy that probably would have made it if he uh
Speaker 3: because a dull AD's got an injury.
Speaker 2: Ad made it. He had to come. He he's hurt.
Speaker 2: He ain't got no choice, right.
Speaker 3: Hey, But that was funny, bro, But you don't hold
Speaker 3: you A lot of times these guys like they don't
Speaker 3: always be in position right because it's just like a
Speaker 3: lot of times these guys that go they go every
Speaker 3: single year, yeah, every single year, just look at you
Speaker 3: go look at your offensive lineman. For the most part,
Speaker 3: the offensive lineman once they go come a time they
Speaker 3: go and go and go, Cause you look go average
Speaker 3: offensive lineman probably have the most, have the most. Look
Speaker 3: at Bruce Matthews fourteen. You look at merland O's from fourteen.
Speaker 3: You look at the offensive lineman, they go a now
Speaker 3: ten lim times unless they just completely fall apart. Yeah,
Speaker 3: guys that's up and coming that don't have it's harder
Speaker 3: for It's hard to break through.
Speaker 2: Now. Once you break through, hard idiot, But once you
Speaker 2: get it, it's smooth sailing. All you got to do
Speaker 2: is just insisting at what you do. That's it. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Uh, I don't because here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Tyree's Maxi is in the East, so they needed somebody
Speaker 3: from the East to pull out and for Maxi because
Speaker 3: Maxie is playing out of his mind. So I don't
Speaker 3: know who the other guy would have been in the
Speaker 3: in the west had ant Man and Lebron pulled out.
Speaker 2: But that's just me.
Speaker 3: That's just the way. That's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe Matt McClung wins the Dunk Contest three. Pete
Speaker 3: Job might enter next year. Levigne said he might come
Speaker 3: back one time. Uh. Janni's on the twitter, Yiannis, we've
Speaker 3: seen you in the dunk contest.
Speaker 2: No, no, you're too tall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only is he not only is he too tall.
Speaker 5: Jannis doesn't have the creativity. He doesn't have the creativity
Speaker 5: to win. Now, you know, first first round he might
Speaker 5: do a little something, but you don't have the creativity
Speaker 5: to go deeper into the rounds for the dunk contest.
Speaker 3: Man, right, Uh, he said, I got hacked. My kids
Speaker 3: tweeted that they came next to her. Night's dad took
Speaker 3: my phone out of the charger, went in the room
Speaker 3: and tweeted, I found out this morning. Yeah that's but see,
Speaker 3: that's the thing, and people people get upset. Back Lebron,
Speaker 3: Lebron didn't enter. I don't look at Lebron as a
Speaker 3: creative dunker. I look at Lebron as a power dunk.
Speaker 3: And if he goes against someone that's creative, he don't lose.
Speaker 2: Lose. Yeah, he's gonna lose. It's only there's only a
Speaker 2: few of them. Now, it's only right.
Speaker 3: But you look at a Zach Levine creator, you look
Speaker 3: at uh uh uh, who's the other Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 2: You look at some of those guys like that.
Speaker 3: You look at a Vince Carter you look at guys
Speaker 3: like that, they're creating dump. You see when Jordan's see
Speaker 3: Dominique lost to Jordan. I do think Dominique one. I
Speaker 3: think domit. But you see when Jordan came with the
Speaker 3: creativity doing all this up and under there, and they're
Speaker 3: doing all this stuff through we hadn't seen before, and
Speaker 3: you like because before that it was one hand power dunk, dunk.
Speaker 2: It for the free throw light.
Speaker 3: Jordan, they do it for Jordan did for the free
Speaker 3: throw light and put it out there in front of
Speaker 3: you like this here. Let you see it. He coming
Speaker 3: and doing it sideways, rocking the baby with it. You
Speaker 3: see how that look. That's why Mac McClung. Mick McClung
Speaker 3: jumped over the top of the car and reversed it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Mac McClung reversed.
Speaker 5: It and then spent and dunked it over Evan Mobley.
Speaker 2: He caught it up the guy off of a hubble board,
Speaker 2: dumped it and dumped it.
Speaker 5: Hold on, what about the one where he jumped over there.
Speaker 5: He jumped over the dude then touched the rim of
Speaker 5: the basketball. Yeah, the remb of the ball, and then creativity,
Speaker 5: creativity every time, you know, and get the one he
Speaker 5: did with Evan Mobile. You got to be able to
Speaker 5: jump first. Now, you got to be able to jump first.
Speaker 5: And I don't think that stretching. The taller guys have
Speaker 5: enough creativity to be able to do some of that
Speaker 5: stuff or just no, no.
Speaker 2: No, it won't look the same because they too damn tall.
Speaker 2: They're too tall. You see.
Speaker 3: That's why Jordan looks so good doing it because he's sick, sick.
Speaker 3: Mike McClung looks even better because he's see it too,
Speaker 3: and you're like, how long is this guy gonna stay
Speaker 3: in the air?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh? Jo to take it from the guy put
Speaker 2: the ball on the rim. Look, he's looking at the
Speaker 2: rim as he touches the rim and then dumps it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Think about the guy off the hubble board. He takes
Speaker 5: it out of his head. Boom boom. Right McClung got
Speaker 5: my kind of Verden man. I say, what you think
Speaker 5: is is vertical is.
Speaker 3: Probably I would say above forty five, but maybe even
Speaker 3: fifty fifty.
Speaker 2: Has there ever been anybody could jump like that? Fifty? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But see the thing is they measure their jump running,
Speaker 3: you know in the NFL, you stand flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: We've had guys that go forty five and a half
Speaker 3: forty six. I think Gerald Senopal went forty six. Boss
Speaker 3: Bailey went forty six. Oh yeah, we got a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean just app let us, just raw app lettuces.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the NFL players, they got it now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you can tell a guy
Speaker 5: that can run fast is normally explosive because that's fast
Speaker 5: twitch muscle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you look at guys that run them four to three,
Speaker 3: go check their burn those are the guys that do
Speaker 3: with forty right, and so so I would I would
Speaker 3: not be surprised if mac McClung has like a forty
Speaker 3: eight fifty inch vert to be able to be that
Speaker 3: how over the real bot Joe and fixed two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got it. You got to have bunnies, now,
Speaker 2: you got that. And he ain't. He don't have he
Speaker 2: don't have long arms.
Speaker 5: Use So you look at a guy like John is
Speaker 5: a guy like kd have you know, have wingspan of
Speaker 5: damnar eight feet.
Speaker 2: Mac mac McClung really is a normal dude. If you
Speaker 2: saw mac.
Speaker 3: McClung walking down, and if you're not an avid basketball fan,
Speaker 3: you walked right past Yeah, he looked like an average dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's crazy. I ain't know me and his
Speaker 5: VERD was exactly the same.
Speaker 2: Numbers.
Speaker 3: Now, oh but he but he was. He was all
Speaker 3: fifties castle that castle. Had he not missed that first dump? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he missed it like three or four times. So I
Speaker 3: was surprised they gave him his high score as they did,
Speaker 3: considering he missed it so many times.
Speaker 2: Difficult.
Speaker 3: Matt McClung. What he missed the first dunk? I think
Speaker 3: he missed it? What one time? You think he ran
Speaker 3: up there one time he's like, okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: Out it now? Yeah, fifty fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: It ain't a whole lot of if you go back
Speaker 5: and look, I don't know how many times he's got
Speaker 5: anything but fifty. I mean, bro, you dunking over shack
Speaker 5: or you dunking over taco fall man, Come on now,
Speaker 5: So it's gonna it was it was, And see I
Speaker 5: think the thing is, oh Joe, people don't want to
Speaker 5: give it got credit because because normally the old when
Speaker 5: I first started, because the dunk contest started in the.
Speaker 2: ABA, it wasn't the NBA. And when the NBA absorbed
Speaker 2: the Aba they brought it.
Speaker 3: And you had stars, your guys that actually participated the
Speaker 3: dunk contest, they were actually in the game. You had
Speaker 3: the Doctor Jay's, you had to Clyde Drexel, you had
Speaker 3: to dominate. You had uh, the Michael Jordan's, you had
Speaker 3: the best car with the Kobe's and you know, you
Speaker 3: had those guys. So those were the stars. Now Mac
Speaker 3: McClung got the g League. You got guys that are
Speaker 3: like role players and like nobody knows who they are.
Speaker 3: You're like, who is he? Yeah, So that's that's the
Speaker 3: problem that they're running into. And then and this was
Speaker 3: just when you thought that the creativity, like what can
Speaker 3: they do? Come, Mac mclun say, I'm gonna jump over
Speaker 3: a damn car, the body of the car, not the hood,
Speaker 3: the body, and I don't reverse it, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take it out your head as you stick it through
Speaker 3: the sun roof. I'm gonna take it out your head
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna reverse it. I remember I did that.
Speaker 3: I did that at Bunch Fark.
Speaker 2: He was it's gonna be a but he's he's saving
Speaker 2: the dunk contest, O Joe. He really is. I mean
Speaker 2: he really is. He did an unbelievable job.
Speaker 5: But the think about it after after a three peat,
Speaker 5: Now you got other players chiming and players that can
Speaker 5: actually dunk, players that are created, our creative players that
Speaker 5: we have former Dunk Contest winners saying they gonna come back.
Speaker 5: That will make the game that much more interesting. It's
Speaker 5: getting to the point now when mcclunk continued to win,
Speaker 5: the Dunk Contest might be a little bit more interesting
Speaker 5: than the All Star Game itself because you not well.
Speaker 3: Nobrel, But think about it, oh Joe, Now the three
Speaker 3: point competition, I mean you get because think about it,
Speaker 3: you get Steph, you get Damn, you got Clay, you
Speaker 3: got some of the best three point shooters, but none
Speaker 3: of the best dunkers in the three point is in
Speaker 3: the Dunk Contest. So that's what's like when you remember
Speaker 3: you go back and look at it's a Clyde going
Speaker 3: up against Mike and and and and Dominique. Yeah, when
Speaker 3: Sean Kemp was in it, I mean they used to
Speaker 3: have guys that are.
Speaker 2: Uh deep deep Brian remember Deep Brown.
Speaker 3: Yep, Dee Brown wanted Larry Nance. Larry Nance, I think
Speaker 3: beat Doctor j in the first one. I think it's
Speaker 3: back in eighty eighty three, eighty four.
Speaker 2: Uh, but.
Speaker 3: It's tough, it's and I think the thing is like
Speaker 3: I said, for me, I never thought bron was a
Speaker 3: creative dunker power dunk.
Speaker 2: Can he dunk on people?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely, But I think the most creative dunk
Speaker 3: was the Rocker Baby. I think that was maybe like
Speaker 3: after the Kobe situation, he did the rock the Rocker Baby.
Speaker 3: But I would like to see a man. I would
Speaker 3: like to see Jah. I would like to see go
Speaker 3: against and and Levine and Aaron. Aaron Gordon said he's done.
Speaker 3: He said, y'all, ain't robbed me three Both times I
Speaker 3: done got robbed. I don't got robbed him this block two.
Speaker 3: I ain't coming down here. The more I don't got
Speaker 3: robbed two or three times, I ain't coming down this
Speaker 3: block anymore.
Speaker 2: Damn y'all. And would be nice and creative as hell too,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, check this out.
Speaker 3: CEEP three and Winby were disqualified after trying to hack
Speaker 3: the NBA Skills Challenge. CEP three thought he figured out
Speaker 3: a way to skirt the rules of the NBA All
Speaker 3: Star Game twenty twenty five Skills Challenge, but He and
Speaker 3: Women were disqualified for the Shenanigans, the final stage of
Speaker 3: the three point three part skills challenge of bobs shooting,
Speaker 3: but to get through the relay with the fastest time
Speaker 3: it's possible. Women and Paul didn't actually shoot the ball.
Speaker 3: They just rake them from the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Instead they flung the balls quickly towards the basket, not
Speaker 5: engaging in any sort of shooting motion. Hey, listen, if
Speaker 5: you're not they violated the spirits, Ojo, See what I
Speaker 5: tell you?
Speaker 2: What what what?
Speaker 5: If you create something, somebody is gonna try to find
Speaker 5: a way to be cheated always always, Now you know that.
Speaker 5: Now if you if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
Speaker 5: Now don't tell me. You don't tell me you ain't.
Speaker 5: You ain't cheat on your tests back in the day,
Speaker 5: and now you know, look at the skills challenge ojo.
Speaker 2: Oh man, here you go, Skills Challenge s A T
Speaker 2: F CAT any kind of tests.
Speaker 5: Well, if I cheat on the SAT and then got
Speaker 5: and gott like five hundred, right, I don't know who
Speaker 5: the hell paper I was cheating off for what they
Speaker 5: get free?
Speaker 2: You need to complain. You need to complain.
Speaker 5: That's why you you always got to sit next to
Speaker 5: somebody smart shoe. How do you think I passed mine?
Speaker 2: Bro Uh? Last cha?
Speaker 3: When you going to say, take a sat on a
Speaker 3: college campus, you're not gonna know any of them, damn people,
Speaker 3: At least I didn't.
Speaker 2: They from all over the state.
Speaker 3: They coming from Savannah, Reidsville, Glenville, Hinesville.
Speaker 2: Forest, They coming from all over. I ain't know no
Speaker 2: one person in that class.
Speaker 5: And I had just played the game, got in late,
Speaker 5: had to get up there early.
Speaker 2: I was like, I already know you got you got
Speaker 2: you gotta look, you know, the smartest small folk. Gotta
Speaker 2: look to him now. But I see you and that's
Speaker 2: my dog. That what my home. Yeah? What they do
Speaker 2: twin when they do boy.
Speaker 5: Huh yeah yeah yeah yeah, made his lot appearance.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna see you down the south floor. You
Speaker 2: want to go down to Florida. Yeah, come on down
Speaker 2: here with you. Boy.
Speaker 5: Say they got they got some labradodles down there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: they got they looking for a labradood We got we
Speaker 5: got them about ninety five pounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Make sure she got all the shots. She up
Speaker 2: to date.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she up to date, She up to date.
Speaker 5: I got something for I take good care of Titus.
Speaker 5: I got Farmer's dog. We got farmers dog man bad
Speaker 5: CP three, c Pree three no better hello CEP three,
Speaker 5: bitter League nineteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, try try trying to try to find a short cut. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that was what you call him. That was CP three.
Speaker 5: But he know everybody who's going track couple CP three
Speaker 5: women like I take.
Speaker 2: I take, I'll take it, I'll take the blow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like uh uh uhh when you remember
Speaker 2: the Pistons didn't shake the bull's hand.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and Bill Lambert said that was me with
Speaker 5: everybody said bad that everybody you know, damn where.
Speaker 2: That was Isaiah. Uh but Bill Labert don't really care
Speaker 2: at all. Bill Labert, Okay, I take the.
Speaker 3: Adam Silver says he's emphatic with angry, empathetic, excuse me,
Speaker 3: empathetic with math fans, but believes Maths did what was
Speaker 3: the best interest of the organization in terms of anger
Speaker 3: at the fan base. I'm empathetic. I understand that was
Speaker 3: the final. It was in the finals last year. I've
Speaker 3: also said this before. I liked Luca very much. It
Speaker 3: seems truly authentic that there that he was stunned and
Speaker 3: you could see it, and it's body language. I am
Speaker 3: sympathetic to the Mavericks organization. I've known Nico Harrison for
Speaker 3: a long time from its prior tenure at Nike. I've
Speaker 3: also gotten close to Patrick Dumont, our new governor in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I can say one thing for share, whether or not
Speaker 3: history will ought to be judged as a smart trade.
Speaker 3: They did what they thought was in the best interests
Speaker 3: of their organization. I have absolutely no knowledge or believe
Speaker 3: that there were any ulterior motives.
Speaker 2: Oh choke, chime in.
Speaker 5: They thought they did what was best for the team.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question on real quick or chat?
Speaker 5: That's your question? The trade was made, has been by
Speaker 5: what a week? Maybe two weeks to this point? Two
Speaker 5: weeks weeks?
Speaker 2: How's that trade going right now? Eighty got hurt? How
Speaker 2: is it okay? Okay?
Speaker 5: I'm just curious. I would like Adam Sandler to come out,
Speaker 5: Adam Sandler. I would like Adam Silver, he come out,
Speaker 5: He come out. Hey, I want Adam I wish I
Speaker 5: would like Adam Silver to come out and speak and
Speaker 5: speak the real How about you to tell the truth?
Speaker 2: How about you be honest. You know what you want?
Speaker 2: What you want him to tell me? What you want
Speaker 2: him to say me?
Speaker 5: I want I want him to say how he truly feels.
Speaker 5: I want to say exactly how he truly feels. You
Speaker 5: make it, you god damn trade. What was goddamn ridiculous?
Speaker 5: But you do realize he's the commissioner of the NBA
Speaker 5: and that's the problem, the fact that he's in a
Speaker 5: position of power and he can't say how he truly,
Speaker 5: god damn feels because he's a commissioner.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard Roger Dale say how he truly feels? Yeah,
Speaker 2: when the cameras ain't rolling, okay, is he probably said
Speaker 2: that with the cameras they rolling.
Speaker 3: Oh t You gotta understand people in position like that,
Speaker 3: you can't say everything that you feel, or you won't
Speaker 3: be in that position long.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the problem with society now, that's the
Speaker 5: problem with people in positions the power. Everything is fake,
Speaker 5: everything is PC. They never getting the people some of
Speaker 5: the things they want to say. The people are saying
Speaker 5: it at home, but the person that's sitting in the
Speaker 5: highest seat refuses to say it because they got to
Speaker 5: be PC.
Speaker 2: When you had trash quarterbacks. You didn't say that. Huh.
Speaker 3: When you had trash quarterbacks, you didn't say that suck.
Speaker 3: Why didn't you say that publicly?
Speaker 2: Time out?
Speaker 5: Let's rewind. Let's go back to my career. Yes, what
Speaker 5: quarterback did I have?
Speaker 2: That suck? All your all your quarterbacks? So all your
Speaker 2: quarterbacks were great.
Speaker 5: I had John Kidnap good and I had Carson Palmer.
Speaker 2: They were game.
Speaker 3: There were game they weren't good, and you didn't say
Speaker 3: they weren't GOODA This is a game of football. Now,
Speaker 3: way let me finish. We strive for perfection. We strive
Speaker 3: for perfection the greatest. If you fall short, that means
Speaker 3: we're good. They weren't bad. Everybody has a bad game.
Speaker 3: You had bad, but you didn't say did had a
Speaker 3: bad game?
Speaker 2: Why didn't you say that? Because ninety nine point nine
Speaker 2: percent of the time they're good.
Speaker 3: When they had a bad game. Why didn't you say
Speaker 3: my quarterback suck? See, you said do you want people
Speaker 3: to speak through? That's what you said, chat chat. That's
Speaker 3: not what he says.
Speaker 5: What are you doing now? He said, that's completely different.
Speaker 5: You say, I would you just speak how you really feelable?
Speaker 5: Kind in a bad game doesn't mean you suck. You
Speaker 5: know what, My quarterback had a bad game. He sucked
Speaker 5: this game. Said my quarterback wasn't good this game. For one,
Speaker 5: all of them to talk like that. For two, I
Speaker 5: just want Adam Silver. See that's what we need. You know,
Speaker 5: you know you talk about you can't do certain things
Speaker 5: when you're in certain positions.
Speaker 2: Look what forty five be doing. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 2: a name. Look with forty five be.
Speaker 5: Doing haaking a plumb fool, all the things you're not
Speaker 5: supposed to do when you have the Yeah, when you sit,
Speaker 5: it's the highest seat.
Speaker 3: But he but you have to understand what he is.
Speaker 3: He's their doctor king they no you laughing, But that's
Speaker 3: how they view him because he's in bold of them
Speaker 3: to say, to say what they feel. So there's no
Speaker 3: more decorum, right right right, there's no real respect.
Speaker 2: You throw that out the window. You say whatever, right,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to live in a society where you
Speaker 3: get to say whatever, do whatever, and it gets like,
Speaker 3: oh that's how I really feel.
Speaker 2: I don't want to live like Okay, I understand what
Speaker 2: you mean. I understand what you mean.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: It was like that, it used to be like that
Speaker 2: in the sixties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they said whatever they did. Whatever you came home
Speaker 5: in your uniform and you wore your uniform out, they
Speaker 5: could they would literally kill you because a black man
Speaker 5: had a uniform on.
Speaker 2: Right. Nah, I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think as a society, as we become more advanced,
Speaker 3: our behavior should also become more advanced.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't go back. Now.
Speaker 3: Some people might think that's okay, let's go back to
Speaker 3: where it was. Well, where it was for you might
Speaker 3: have been great. It wasn't great for all, and it's
Speaker 3: never gonna be great for all, But I think it
Speaker 3: can be better for most.
Speaker 2: That's just me.
Speaker 3: Hey, but no, Look, I understand people in position like
Speaker 3: a commissioner, you have to like sometimes you gotta just
Speaker 3: you gotta take all that because that's what the owners do.
Speaker 3: The owners pay you to take all the criticism that
Speaker 3: they're supposed to get.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, you see how people blame it.
Speaker 3: Adam Silver he knew about it, so what's he gonna do?
Speaker 3: You See, David Stern was able to block a trade
Speaker 3: because the NBA, they owned the hornets or the dependam
Speaker 3: with the hornets at the time, so they could block
Speaker 3: that trade because they didn't think it was in the
Speaker 3: best interest of them.
Speaker 2: They got no say so all of that.
Speaker 5: It's just like what did Rogers said, Roger Cadellong Commission
Speaker 5: always says, you know, we let team handle team fiends.
Speaker 2: That was a team decision.
Speaker 3: You can't force us to keep a player if we
Speaker 3: want to trade it. I just look, I get that.
Speaker 3: I get it because you look at that Luca at
Speaker 3: twenty five years of age five time first team, all
Speaker 3: the NBA selections, and they made a move that came
Speaker 3: out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear anything. You heard no more.
Speaker 3: You heard nothing about Anthony Davids being traded, You heard
Speaker 3: nothing about Luca Doncis being traded, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Seans drops that bombshell. Yes, sir, so it caught everybody
Speaker 3: off guard. And because of the players that are involved,
Speaker 3: and also because you didn't hear anything about it.
Speaker 2: That is the biggest trade. That's the biggest trade it
Speaker 2: in be a history.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely though, But like he said, we'll
Speaker 1: see if the only time will tell, Oh Joe, if
Speaker 1: this was the right move, and.
Speaker 5: Listen, the only time will tell. But it's telling right now.
Speaker 5: It's telling right now, and it's telling real early.
Speaker 2: Nights. Get out here, go flames. Oh, go ahead with Joe.
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Speaker 2: past his bedtime. So around eight o'clock he's gonna start
Speaker 2: getting assy. He gonna want to go to bed. All
Speaker 2: over the place.
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