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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Phillies Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury.

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Speaker 2: I'm Todd's lucky.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, June twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. The

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Speaker 1: Phillies Thursday night reached the halfway point of their season.

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Speaker 1: They played eighty one games. They have the best record

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Speaker 1: in baseball. They are on pace to win one hundred

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Speaker 1: and six games for the season, which would be a

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Speaker 1: franchise record.

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Speaker 2: But it was kind of a disaster of a night

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Speaker 2: for the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Potentially probably Spencer Turnbull earlier in the day goes on

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Speaker 1: the fifteen day injured list with a strained right lat

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Speaker 1: He's gonna miss six to eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: And then late in the game.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber leaves because of left groin tightness. And then

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Speaker 1: in the final play of the game, Bryce Harper pulls

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Speaker 1: up lame as he's running the first base with a

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Speaker 1: left hamstring injury. The Phillies said they will know more

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Speaker 1: on Friday, which is today, But man, oh man, and

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Speaker 1: talk about it coming fast and furious. You know, you

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Speaker 1: lose Turnbull, you already have Walker on the Angel list.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have Michael Mercato get into the rotation.

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Speaker 1: But losing Harper and Schwarber potentially that that's going to

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Speaker 1: be tough to overcome.

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Speaker 3: It was your proverbial ship show yesterday on so many levels.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 3: on so many doves from nine o'clock on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: things discuss disastrous on on the for the country and

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Speaker 3: and for the Phillies. But I gotta say, I gotta

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Speaker 3: say this, if there's a team that can handle the

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Speaker 3: and be resilient enough to be able to handle this

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff, I think it's the Phillies that said,

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Speaker 3: you know sometimes you know, this is a war of attrition,

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Speaker 3: and you know, one of the biggest concerns that Rob

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Speaker 3: Thompson had, I'm sure as a GM Dave Debrowski, you're

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Speaker 3: a president of Baseball offs all those guys in the

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Speaker 3: front office, is okay, we got to worry about injury.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got them piling up at a ridiculous rate. Now,

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Speaker 3: the fact that they happen this early is actually not

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Speaker 3: the worst thing in the world. JT happened early. He

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Speaker 3: should be back. Turner's stuff happened early. He's back and playing,

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Speaker 3: but you know, keep losing guys like this, and it

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Speaker 3: makes it very, very tough. I mean, the rest of

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Speaker 3: the rest of the league at some point may be

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Speaker 3: catching up again. I say this in so much that

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Speaker 3: they're the Phillies, have the ability and have had the

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Speaker 3: next man up and mentality. But when you start getting

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Speaker 3: like the next three men up or four men up,

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Speaker 3: it gets a little daunting. My biggest concern is a pitching.

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Speaker 3: I'm less concerned about the offense. I'm more concerned about

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Speaker 3: the pitching because now you've lost Taiwan Walker to a

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Speaker 3: blister or a hot spot and he can't throw a

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Speaker 3: split and it's not very good, and he hasn't been

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Speaker 3: very good. And then you have Spencer Turnbull, who's going

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Speaker 3: to be sort of like the savior in that rotation,

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Speaker 3: and now he's down. So the next man up and

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Speaker 3: mentality becomes a little bit more difficult when you have

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Speaker 3: to go with the Michael Mercado, who's I like him,

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Speaker 3: but he's not a you know, proven guy, and so

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Speaker 3: you start talking about starting pitching depth. It becomes a

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Speaker 3: little bit more daunting for the guys, Jim.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, next man up is a beautiful thing to say.

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Speaker 4: It's a great quality for a team to have, and

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Speaker 4: this team has indeed had it. You know. He lost

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Speaker 4: Harper for a good stretch in twenty twenty two with

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Speaker 4: the thumb injury, the broken thumb, and then he had

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Speaker 4: the elbow. But they've overcome losses to key players before.

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Speaker 4: They are tough. They are resilient. But even the toughest

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Speaker 4: and most resilient team has its limits. And you're looking

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Speaker 4: at real Mudo Schwarber for all the handwringing early in

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Speaker 4: the season about you know, is he a good leadoff man?

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Speaker 4: Can this team survive with him in the leadoff man?

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Speaker 4: He's been exceptional. They've done a great job. Look at

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Speaker 4: the record, Look at the basis centers they've done. Look

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Speaker 4: at the Knights. They jump out to one nothing leads

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Speaker 4: or have big first innings and demoralize the other team instantly.

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Speaker 4: And Harper been the best player in baseball pretty much

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Speaker 4: since May one. He was the player of the month

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Speaker 4: in May, is maybe going to be the player He

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Speaker 4: might be the player of the month in June. Even

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Speaker 4: with this huge losses. There are limits, you know, the

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Speaker 4: goofiest cliche. Guys are going to have to step up,

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Speaker 4: but you can only absorb so many losses. They have

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Speaker 4: to hope neither one of these is serious. I think

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Speaker 4: there's a chance that Schwarber's is not. That seemed to

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Speaker 4: have a precautionary bent to it, but it was quite alarming.

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Speaker 4: As you know, Harper's accelerating to the bag, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, he's grabbing his left hamstring that had the

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Speaker 4: look of a pop or something acute, even if it's

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Speaker 4: mild like the old grade one. You're looking at three

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Speaker 4: to four weeks, right, so we have to wait till

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Speaker 4: what comes back in terms of the evaluations. But it

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Speaker 4: didn't look good. Injuries continue to test this team, Injuries

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Speaker 4: to core important important pieces. But this team has been

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Speaker 4: built since day one on starting pitching and knock on wood,

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Speaker 4: and thank goodness, you know, just this week they've had

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Speaker 4: a couple of setbacks in the starting pitching, but not

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Speaker 4: to the bedrock of that rotation, not to the elite

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Speaker 4: level talent that has that you've built this team on it,

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Speaker 4: that has carried this team so far. But you know

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Speaker 4: there are limits. You have to hope these things pass

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Speaker 4: quickly and they are not serious. But I love where

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Speaker 4: the team is at the halfway point. Eight games up

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Speaker 4: pays for one hundred and eight wins. But these are

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Speaker 4: little things. Yeah, you gotta you gotta take them serious,

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Speaker 4: and you've gotta be a little concerned about it because

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Speaker 4: these are such important guys.

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Speaker 2: Rubin, So you said you're more concerned about the pitching.

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Speaker 1: Is it because you're concerned about if something happens to

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Speaker 1: the other four guys, who's going to step up?

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Speaker 2: Or are you more concerned about the number five?

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Speaker 1: And I don't say that because I feel like the

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Speaker 1: first four guys in that rotation are so good they

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Speaker 1: could you know, they can handle Michael Mercado potentially right

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Speaker 1: or whoever, however long it goes. So what's what's your

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Speaker 1: concern with the rotation? Because when I looked at I

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Speaker 5: But you feel differently, Yeah, to me, it's about whether

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Speaker 5: or not they lose one of the core play those

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Speaker 5: other core four. And when I say four four, you

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Speaker 5: know we're talking about Nola, Wheeler, Sanchez and Suarez. I

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Speaker 5: mean we lose one of those those Phillies who lose

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's it's really super concerning. But then you

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Speaker 3: and especially in the rotation, then it becomes disastrous. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the reasons why it's so

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Speaker 3: important for Dave Dombrowski to wait and to settle in

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Speaker 3: be as we get closer and closer to that trade deadline,

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Speaker 3: because these are the things that happen. It's one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty two games. And you know, when I was

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Speaker 3: sort of, Okay, we needed a right fielder, we needed

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Speaker 3: a new starter, we needed whatever. But you sort of

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Speaker 3: have to wait to see as close to the deadline

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Speaker 3: as you possibly can, and sometimes you're forced to do

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Speaker 3: it because there's so many teams, especially now there's so

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Speaker 3: you don't know who's going to be selling, who's buying.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, in the Phillies case, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got to really assess what do I really need.

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Speaker 3: God forbid they have a blowout in one of those

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Speaker 3: That's what you're gonna do, because if you got Turnbull down,

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Speaker 3: you got an ineffective Taiwan Walker. Now you have to

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Speaker 3: build for if you're thinking about winning the World Series,

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Speaker 3: you need another start first and foremost. Right now, I'm

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm all about pitching. I'm always about pitching,

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Speaker 3: because at some point those players who pulled their hamstrings

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Speaker 3: or got those soft tissue injuries, they'll be back. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't worry me nearly as much as making sure the

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Speaker 3: guys on the mound can keep guys and they can

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Speaker 3: keep this team in the in the game, as they

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Speaker 3: have done so well this year.

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Speaker 2: So Michael Mercato, I guess they haven't.

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Speaker 1: Phillies have an off day on Monday, so they could

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Speaker 1: skip the fifth starter, so Mercado could make two or

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Speaker 1: three depending on what they do with the rotation before

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Speaker 1: the break, and then after that, who knows. But you

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Speaker 1: talk about like depth behind you know that your concerns

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Speaker 1: with depth. I was looking at just the Triple A

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Speaker 1: if somebody takes a shinberger, a line drive comebacker off,

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Speaker 1: a game or two or something like that. Colby Allard,

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Speaker 1: he's on the forty man roster. He was not good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the He's back now, uh four one five ERA in

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Speaker 1: he'd probably be the next guy up. But then you're

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Speaker 1: looking at Tyler Phillips, who Dave Dombrowski loved in spring

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Speaker 2: That would be an awesome story, but you know we're not.

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Speaker 1: Phillies are trying to win games, not you know, make

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Speaker 1: awesome stories.

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Speaker 2: The killer, I think is just Mick Abel. He's he is.

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Speaker 1: It's it's killing him. It's killing him. Like he would

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Speaker 1: be the guy right now. That would be up if

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Speaker 1: he was doing what everybody expected to do. He's one

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Speaker 1: in seven seven point zero eight e RA in twelve

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Speaker 1: he's walked more than he has struck out.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's a that's a that's a kill.

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Speaker 4: This is the time he should be knocking at the

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Speaker 4: door and blowing down the door in terms of he's

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Speaker 4: been around enough a little bit where there should be

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Speaker 4: some signs of readiness. I'm not saying all the way,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he's just not doing it. I think

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Speaker 4: problem there. They need kind of somebody like that at

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Speaker 4: if Mercata is not the answer, there will be a

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Speaker 4: need because uh, you know, Turble's going to need more time.

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Speaker 4: This is how injuries go. He comes out of the

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Speaker 4: at six eight weeks.

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Speaker 4: Kids, So you never know until the evaluation happens. But uh,

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Speaker 4: Mick Abel's inability to throw strikes at the core of pitching,

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Speaker 4: throws strikes right at the most fundamental thing the pitcher

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Speaker 4: It's just really a head scratcher.

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Speaker 4: Can I can I ask this question, Uh, just to

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Speaker 3: The man doesn't bruise, and the man doesn't swell. He's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say three to four weeks. If it looked

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Speaker 2: Awful and next thing you know, he's back.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a cyborg.

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Speaker 2: The man's a cyborgs a cyborg. Jim, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I I and what I know about hamstrings? And he's

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Speaker 3: Not a crap, if it's not a cramp, it's six weeks. Okay,

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Speaker 3: With Marrorfield plays first base, and they're playing him at

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Speaker 4: Even with the way Sosa swung it while Trey Turner

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Speaker 6: Move Bome over the first I don't I they may

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Speaker 4: It might be a you know, it's certainly an interesting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you've gotta make a decision because if

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Speaker 4: Maybe the right side, the reps, the extra reps, the

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be against the lefty, it's not

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Speaker 3: they gotta find out. They got to find out really ultimately,

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Speaker 2: They might prove it either way.

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Speaker 2: And you've got Johann Rojas who could come back.

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Speaker 1: He's he just got sent down, but he could come back,

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Speaker 1: That's that doesn't seem to be as serious, but that's

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Speaker 3: Sure, Jim, I.

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Speaker 4: Wonder if you may look at Stot there a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's a tough position to put everybody in. And we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who hits third?

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Speaker 4: Who you're texting?

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Speaker 3: I'm not texting anybody. I'm trying to figure out who's

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Speaker 2: Who who do you who do you have hitting third?

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Speaker 4: But didn't you feel like watching last night? You know,

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Speaker 4: injury to insult. It was like you know what else.

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Speaker 4: It was almost surreal. So they come out of this

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Speaker 4: got you know, two decent medical reports all things considered. Uh,

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Speaker 4: that that's that's a win right there. But victory. They

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Speaker 4: needed to catch that victory last time. I'm sorry. Even

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Speaker 4: though your eight games up and have the best record

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Speaker 4: in the nationally, you know, the game you're supposed to win,

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to win, And that was one that they like.

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Speaker 3: That away Man an astrominator. He's been outstanding, but you

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Speaker 3: know he and and Hoffman and Show's Haffman, they gave

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Speaker 3: it up. I mean, Hopman hangs a breaking ball.

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Speaker 4: But they've been so good. Yeah, you know they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have a bad way. I'm talking mostly about the defense.

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Speaker 4: It's just got away from him.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll get and lose.

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Speaker 1: Later today on Harper and Schwarber, we know Turnbull's going

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Speaker 1: to miss six to eight weeks. We know Walker will

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Speaker 1: not be back until after the All Star break.

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Speaker 2: So things are getting interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was like it was like the summer,

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Speaker 1: the Great Summer of Phillies baseball.

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Speaker 2: Everything was just going swimmingly.

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Speaker 1: People were, people were, people were angry because you know,

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Speaker 1: Turnbull wasn't in the rotation for Walker, and you know

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Speaker 1: that was the big problem. Is you know, which solid

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Speaker 1: number five starter can they put in there? And now

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Speaker 1: it's now you're talking about. Is Buddy Kennedy going to

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Speaker 1: be up later today?

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Speaker 2: Is Wes Wilson? Is Johann Rojas? How long is Harper

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Speaker 2: out for? How long is s warp out for?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to make a trade. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: summer love. Now we don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: We will find We will find out later today and

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Speaker 1: we'll be back.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday. You know, maybe maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: this is all for not and there everybody's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm nothing to see here.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to see, nothing to see here. All is well,

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Speaker 2: All is well.

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Speaker 4: You guys, will you want to talk about golf handicaps?

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Speaker 2: Not mine? Not mine either, No, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Not good.

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Speaker 2: We'll save that, We'll save that for another time.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go play some golf right now to

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Speaker 3: try to lower a little bit more because it's been inflated.

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Speaker 2: God bless you. We'll be back on Monday.

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Speaker 4: Can carry your own bag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not carrying my bag, not doing it awesome ja.

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