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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the draymond green show. We have a
Speaker 1: very important topic to discuss today and I think you
Speaker 1: all know what it is. Is Um. I've sat back
Speaker 1: on this topic and just kind of watched Um for
Speaker 1: a few days or a week or so of statements,
Speaker 1: of reactions, actions taken, and it's been very interesting to
Speaker 1: me and obviously the topic that we are going to
Speaker 1: discuss today, uh, is Robert Sarver, the governor of the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns, who was recently suspended one year Um by
Speaker 1: the NBA and find ten million dollars for his or
Speaker 1: how he conducted himself in the workplace, Um, how he
Speaker 1: ran the organization, and I think it's very interesting because
Speaker 1: to get suspended for one year and find ten million dollars,
Speaker 1: I mean the only way you and suspended for one
Speaker 1: year and find two million dollars is if you are
Speaker 1: the owner of an asset and you can't be fired,
Speaker 1: because I think anyone else in the NBA who and
Speaker 1: especially from a front office standpoint like maybe not a player,
Speaker 1: although we've seen players get thrown out of the leaf
Speaker 1: for less, but I think anyone of that's an employee
Speaker 1: of an NBA team, not NBA Player, although you could
Speaker 1: possibly throw them us in there as well. Would one
Speaker 1: thousand percent be fired if half of the things that
Speaker 1: came out of the investigation into Robert's saver came out
Speaker 1: about anyone else. And, as I said before, I've sat
Speaker 1: back four or five or six days and just kind
Speaker 1: of watched different people's reactions and a lot of things
Speaker 1: around this are surrounding this is very interesting to me because,
Speaker 1: number one, if you use the n word to redscribe
Speaker 1: something that someone said, or telling a story that Um,
Speaker 1: someone has told you, or using the word because someone
Speaker 1: else did stop it that's ridiculous, because the level of
Speaker 1: comfort that you have to have to even use the
Speaker 1: word again, does it not validate or make it okay
Speaker 1: for Robert Sarver to use the n word? I saw
Speaker 1: the report also said he used it at least five times. Okay,
Speaker 1: at least five times, could be one hundred times. At
Speaker 1: least five times, could be six times. At least five
Speaker 1: times could also be that is just a word that
Speaker 1: you use in our comfortable using. Now, quite frankly, I'd
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that he's using the world
Speaker 1: with an a ending and not an e Er ending. However,
Speaker 1: not really that that matters or not, but e Er
Speaker 1: does get a little harsher than he and, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that in his vocabulary is the n
Speaker 1: word ending in A. I can't imagine in his vocabulary
Speaker 1: is the n word ending in e R. What significance
Speaker 1: does that have? Zero. The significance or the relevance that
Speaker 1: it had is that. It baffles me that people try
Speaker 1: to decipher the difference in between the two. Well, if
Speaker 1: that guy used it ending in e R or a,
Speaker 1: it's less discriminatory or it's less of a gut punch
Speaker 1: or it's less meaningful if it's used with e Er
Speaker 1: or an A. It's absolutely ridiculous. What also, what else
Speaker 1: is ridiculous is, and by the way, I say this
Speaker 1: as someone who actually uses the word, and I am
Speaker 1: amongst my friend groups, when I am amongst people I
Speaker 1: am close with, I may use the word. I do
Speaker 1: use the word at times period. I too am a
Speaker 1: little out or just say wrong. I too am a
Speaker 1: little wrong for using the word. I too, I am
Speaker 1: a little out of touch because, and here's why I
Speaker 1: say this, the fact that I myself and others Um
Speaker 1: will use such a word as an endearing term. It's
Speaker 1: a little fucked up. It's a little messed up in itself.
Speaker 1: I grew up using that word. I grew up as
Speaker 1: the word being okay, and I'm also not gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and lie to you and say I probably won't
Speaker 1: use the word again. That would probably be a lie.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of not into line like it is what
Speaker 1: it is. I have gotten better at about using the
Speaker 1: word Um, but the reality is I still do use it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's actually sad that, like you, don't,
Speaker 1: you don't really hear Um words in that vein for
Speaker 1: other nationalities, for other races, used as an endearing term.
Speaker 1: So why is it that the term that's been used
Speaker 1: for us as African Americans too Um degrade us, to
Speaker 1: disrespect us, to call us everything except for except for
Speaker 1: Our Name? Why is that term used as a term
Speaker 1: of endearment? I think it's actually insane. I've been doing
Speaker 1: more thinking about this, especially since all of this stuff
Speaker 1: came out. I've just been thinking about it. But let's
Speaker 1: not get off topic, because that's a totally different conversation.
Speaker 1: But the conversation that needs to be had is how
Speaker 1: can someone that's leading an organization like Robert, sorry, which,
Speaker 1: let's face it, the reason your organization thrives, the way
Speaker 1: the organizations thrive, is pretty much built on the backs
Speaker 1: of African Americans, because, I mean, you could just look
Speaker 1: at the team roster. Um, this is also this is
Speaker 1: also a team that has an African American coach. Um,
Speaker 1: this is also a team that has an African American generalmatic.
Speaker 1: So the thriving that's going on this or and in
Speaker 1: that organization is one being heavily driven by African Americans. So, okay,
Speaker 1: let's say Robert Sarver gets a one year band, as
Speaker 1: he did in the ten million dollar fine. So when
Speaker 1: he returns next year, because it's only a year, it
Speaker 1: does everything just go back to normal? Are Those guys
Speaker 1: supposed to unsee everything that they just saw and heard?
Speaker 1: Are Those guys supposed to feel comfortable with continuing to
Speaker 1: work with this guy? And quite frankly, I think it'd
Speaker 1: be absolutely insane if they were. But to each his own.
Speaker 1: I can't judge how they feel or how they may
Speaker 1: or may not feel. That's not up to me to judge.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's absolutely insane that you know
Speaker 1: you Robert sarvags is going to receive a one year
Speaker 1: band and and and and and ten million dollar fine
Speaker 1: and just returned to the sidelines next year and returned
Speaker 1: to the building next year. It actually goes against everything
Speaker 1: that the NBA stands for. The NBA stands for inclusion,
Speaker 1: the NBA stands for diversity. The N B A definitely
Speaker 1: stands against bigotry and racism and I commend Adam Silver,
Speaker 1: our commissioner, and the entire staff at the League Office
Speaker 1: for the stands that they have taken over the years.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's been any other organization or league
Speaker 1: that supports their players like the NBA supports us. So
Speaker 1: this does not erase like one thing you do. I
Speaker 1: know we live in the world of where you can
Speaker 1: do like a million good things and one bad thing
Speaker 1: and people paint you to be a bad person. Let
Speaker 1: me say this. This does not paint Adam or the
Speaker 1: NBA as like these bad people, as if all the
Speaker 1: decisions that they've made up until this point have been
Speaker 1: incredible and this one kind of fell short of what
Speaker 1: should be. This does not paint them as that. But
Speaker 1: for everything that the NBA stands against and stand for,
Speaker 1: this report that came out last week is the total
Speaker 1: opposite of everything that the NBA stands for, and so
Speaker 1: to think that someone like Robert Sarverer that's acting in
Speaker 1: that manner can continue to represent us, that's bullshit. You
Speaker 1: can't continue to represent way more people than herself with
Speaker 1: those views was speaking to people the way he did,
Speaker 1: with treating Um African Americans and women the way he has.
Speaker 1: That's not okay because the moment the moment um any
Speaker 1: of us do something wrong, it's always we, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't support that, we don't do this, we don't
Speaker 1: do that and we're kind of left out on our
Speaker 1: own to figure it out. This this guy gets to
Speaker 1: just come back in the folds as if he's still
Speaker 1: representing us and as as if he's a part of
Speaker 1: one of us. That can't be so because for us,
Speaker 1: especially as African Americans, I'm uncomfortable. I'm very uncomfortable. And
Speaker 1: knowing that, M and in that position, you could just
Speaker 1: essentially do whatever you want and because you you own
Speaker 1: an asset, you can't be punished. And so I saw
Speaker 1: where commissioner silver said, I've taken the steps that I
Speaker 1: can take, the maximum penalty that I can hand out.
Speaker 1: I hand it out, and now it falls on, you know,
Speaker 1: in order for him to be kicked out as an
Speaker 1: owner of an of a franchise and forced to sell
Speaker 1: that that vote will fall on two thirds of the
Speaker 1: other owners of these assets. And so what I was
Speaker 1: saying then, why don't we pose a vote, because that
Speaker 1: is definitely an offense that it's probably grounds for forced
Speaker 1: being forced to sell. I personally myself was actually a
Speaker 1: part of the game that was about to be played
Speaker 1: right after the Donald Sterling press conference which, if you
Speaker 1: remember back, it was commissioner Adam Silver's first thing that
Speaker 1: he really had to take a stand on as the
Speaker 1: commissioner of the NBA, which was a tough one. And
Speaker 1: and I remember, we were not going to play that
Speaker 1: game that night if Adam, if if we, the players,
Speaker 1: didn't think that Adam had taken the necessary steps that
Speaker 1: should be taken, that, if the hammer that he dropped
Speaker 1: was not as tough or as hard as it should
Speaker 1: have been dropped, we were not going to play that night.
Speaker 1: Looking back on that, I even with that, I still
Speaker 1: didn't think we should have played. However, I was super young,
Speaker 1: probably think I was in my second year in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Had No say. Whatever it was gonna happen was I
Speaker 1: just had to go along with I had no say,
Speaker 1: but I was a part of that game and I
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing that announcement that Adam may was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess we're gonna play. And so
Speaker 1: a part of me wonder why was it okay then
Speaker 1: but not okay now? Um, I would really need some
Speaker 1: clarity on that. Of how was it able to like,
Speaker 1: how was it that Donald starling could be forced to
Speaker 1: sell and he's not? It's the same thing. The only
Speaker 1: difference is. We don't have a recording, but we do
Speaker 1: have a ton of people and if you've read the
Speaker 1: interview Um, if you haven't, you should and if you have,
Speaker 1: if you have, you know the amount of people that
Speaker 1: were interviewed as a part of this investigation. Now let
Speaker 1: me say something. I do not support cancel culture. I
Speaker 1: do not believe in cancel culture. I think, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: if you want my opinion, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it is a bunch of bullshit. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of cancel culture are people that didn't work as hard
Speaker 1: in life or didn't make it as far in life
Speaker 1: and think they're just allowed to punish those that did.
Speaker 1: So let me make it clear. I do not support
Speaker 1: cancel culture. This is not cancel culture. This is not
Speaker 1: like I'm sure most people that are basketball fans can't
Speaker 1: walk past Robert Sarver and say, Oh, that's Robert Sarver.
Speaker 1: So canceling him is like canceling someone that. That's like
Speaker 1: two totally different things. So I want to make that clear.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's a little baffling to me
Speaker 1: that we'll walk into the arena next year the Phoenix
Speaker 1: Suns were walking into arena next year he'll sit on
Speaker 1: the sideline and we'll just continue on planing. So the
Speaker 1: one thing that I am going to need is someone
Speaker 1: to explain to me why is it that it was
Speaker 1: okay to get rid of sterling but it's not possible
Speaker 1: to force Robert Sarver to sell after what we read?
Speaker 1: And secondly, why isn't there just a vote, being like
Speaker 1: all right, so let's have the vote, because then also
Speaker 1: what we all know is who else may be saying
Speaker 1: it behind closed tours? That's something that I would love
Speaker 1: to know and based on the votes, maybe we'll know
Speaker 1: that or maybe we won't. Just because someone votes know
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean they are using that word behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: Because be that this, that is a fireble offense. I
Speaker 1: would never just throw that on somebody. I would never say, Hey,
Speaker 1: if one of the other twenty nine voted no, they're
Speaker 1: using the word behind closed doors. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all. But what what you
Speaker 1: will know is values, like what what are the values
Speaker 1: of others that you know? Quite frankly, we're playing for UM.
Speaker 1: What are they values? What they believe in? Um, you know, morals,
Speaker 1: like you you will just have a better picture of
Speaker 1: all of those things and you will know how to
Speaker 1: operate yourself. I think that's one thing that we we
Speaker 1: would learn from a vote and, quite frankly, we will
Speaker 1: simply know who stands with us and who don't, because
Speaker 1: it's easy to sit back and not say nothing. We
Speaker 1: all can sit back and not say anything that way.
Speaker 1: European just hasn't heard. It's not that you had an
Speaker 1: opinion and it was against the popular opinion or not.
Speaker 1: It's just not heard and no one's really asking for it.
Speaker 1: I'm asking that there be a vote. If that's the
Speaker 1: only way, then let's see what those numbers are. Let's
Speaker 1: see what they are, because what I did see was
Speaker 1: a minority owner of the Phoenix Sun said if he's
Speaker 1: going to continue to be there, I'm out. I did
Speaker 1: see paypal say, if he's going to continue to be there,
Speaker 1: our sponsorships out. So be that. These those things are happening.
Speaker 1: It's definitely grounds for a force to sell. Now it's
Speaker 1: how would that take place, because that one needs to
Speaker 1: take place. So how do we get to a space,
Speaker 1: into a place of where that's going to happen? That
Speaker 1: is my question. That's what I need answers on. I
Speaker 1: think more of my brothers in NBA need answers on
Speaker 1: and I am looking forward to hearing that. Lastly, before
Speaker 1: we get out of here, and this is two guys
Speaker 1: in the NBA. This is to agents. This is too,
Speaker 1: anybody who may hear this and then make concerns. I
Speaker 1: recently read, I know everybody's caught up on the news
Speaker 1: of Oh man, we're gonna get high school players going
Speaker 1: back from high school to the NBA. Great, I have
Speaker 1: no problem with that. Have had it to your business.
Speaker 1: Don't get so caught up in the big headline that
Speaker 1: you that you miss out on a fine print. And
Speaker 1: what I read in the fine print was harsher luxury
Speaker 1: tax penalties are being discussed. Why is that important? I
Speaker 1: think that's important because don't for one second fool of
Speaker 1: yourself and just think harshal luxy luxury tax penalty don't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with me, because that's not true.
Speaker 1: Harshal luxury luxury tax penalties that just falls on the owners.
Speaker 1: They got the money, they can pay it. Let me
Speaker 1: explain something to you. What I've learned in this league
Speaker 1: and what I've been taught in this league it's normally
Speaker 1: there's three to four teams per year really trying to
Speaker 1: win a championship. And, quite frankly, if you're really trying
Speaker 1: to win a championship this year, unless you just overhearder roster,
Speaker 1: you're really trying to win the championship next year and
Speaker 1: after next year, unless you just overhearder roster, you're really
Speaker 1: trying to win one that following year. So you really
Speaker 1: have three to five teams per year that is really
Speaker 1: trying to compete for championships. Why does that matter? That
Speaker 1: matters because harsher luxury tax penalties just mean those teams
Speaker 1: that aren't winning, which is the vast majority of the NBA,
Speaker 1: they're just not going to go into the tax because
Speaker 1: there's harsher penalties. Well, guess what, guys, if those teams
Speaker 1: aren't willing to go into the tax, what does salaries do,
Speaker 1: or the amount of people getting bigger salaries? They go down. Why?
Speaker 1: Because teams aren't going into the tax. So don't make
Speaker 1: the mistake of saying harsher luxury tax penalties, that ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with me. It has everything to
Speaker 1: do with you. It has everything to do with me.
Speaker 1: When you speak of harsher luxury tax penalty, because most
Speaker 1: won't be willing to pay those penalties. So in turn,
Speaker 1: most won't be getting paid, and so that's something that
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw out there. Read defined print, don't
Speaker 1: just read the headline. Don't get close so caught up
Speaker 1: on the pretty headline that you miss the fine print
Speaker 1: and the things that really do matter. Because, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: if high schoolers start coming into the NBA, what I
Speaker 1: mean there will be seven of them drafted in a
Speaker 1: great year. Okay, so if there's seven drafted in a
Speaker 1: great year, realistically there maybe three or four in a
Speaker 1: year most of the time. Okay, that's three or four
Speaker 1: spots of the sixty harsh luxury tax penalties. That's six,
Speaker 1: eight guys not getting paid what they could possibly get paid.
Speaker 1: So don't let that go over your head. Pay attention
Speaker 1: to those small things and don't get it twisted and
Speaker 1: think that don't bother me, I don't got to pay
Speaker 1: the luxury tax fiancy because you do. So keep your
Speaker 1: eye for that. That's a wrap on this segment of
Speaker 1: the draymond green show. This was obviously I wanted to
Speaker 1: share my opinion, my thoughts and my most importantly, my
Speaker 1: questions based on this Robert sarver thing. Um, I think
Speaker 1: it's we all know what needs to happen. I've said
Speaker 1: what needs to happen. I've been a part of a
Speaker 1: very crucial game that happened right before forced to sell.
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen it all unveil and I think
Speaker 1: it's time that we see this one as well. That's
Speaker 1: a rap from the draymond green show piece.