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Speaker 1: The show goes on the official show on the Fish

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Speaker 1: Strips Podcast. I'm Eli Susman, managing editor of Fish Stripes,

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Speaker 1: wishing you a happy New Year, hopefully the last got

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Speaker 1: to wish you a happy New Year. We're already like

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Speaker 1: a full week into it. Bringing the heat to the

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Speaker 1: program today mister Marlin's Barbecue. Alex contraras, Alex, what's your

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Speaker 1: rule with the happy New year greetings? How long into

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Speaker 1: the new year can you still wish a person that

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Speaker 1: happy New Year before move on with your life?

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Speaker 2: Two days? That's it? Hey, Happy new Year to everybody.

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Speaker 3: Man, Happy New Year, all the Fish Stripe followers, everybody

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, Marlin's Nation, Marlin's Twitter Nation. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: Fish on the Farm man that did a great job

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Speaker 3: on marlin Twitter Madness back to back years on there man,

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Speaker 3: Fishtraps really giving everybody a run for their money. Man.

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Speaker 3: Really proud to see our community coming together in the

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Speaker 3: middle of a crisis where the damn owners can't seem

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Speaker 3: to get on the same page with the players, and

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Speaker 3: it's a damn shame, you know. Sidetracking here, I was

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Speaker 3: watching Ballers, so it kind of reminds me a little

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Speaker 3: bit about Bollers.

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Speaker 2: If you ever saw Ballers with Dwayne Johnson, I know it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it kind of just reminded me, like at

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Speaker 3: the end, you know what I'm saying, It was like,

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Speaker 3: the players want this and the owners want to another

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Speaker 3: the damn, let's just get on the same plage.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it for the players, baby, Let's just do

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Speaker 2: it for the players.

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Speaker 1: We are Yeah, we're five and a half weeks now

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Speaker 1: into this lockout. Since things came to a pause. I

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Speaker 1: was I gave some people the wrong idea, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was of the impression that not that it was

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Speaker 1: going to be resolved quickly, but that we'd still have

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Speaker 1: some spicy things to talk about when it was shut down.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. But I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of the fans are going to sympathize with the players

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Speaker 1: on how this is progressing. But I guess at the

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Speaker 1: moment right everybody is kind of in the crossairs because

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Speaker 1: all indications are that there's no action negotiations whatsoever between

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Speaker 1: the two sides. So that's what's hard to understand, right,

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Speaker 1: is that we're now almost a full week into the

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Speaker 1: new year. Everybody's were like two weeks after Christmas. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: back from their vacations whatever they were at. You know,

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Speaker 1: from a personal time, everybody should be refreshed and you know,

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Speaker 1: ready to go and feeling some emergency. But that doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be the case. It's all all crickets out

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Speaker 2: One thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, it's a big disappointment not not even having

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Speaker 3: one or two meetings between the players Association and the owners.

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Speaker 3: You know, like, come on, commission, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Why do you get paid the big bucks? What does

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Speaker 3: he get paid? Like eleven million dollars a year or

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Speaker 3: something like that. Don't quote me on it, but damn,

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Speaker 3: come on, man, what the hell do you gotta do?

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Speaker 3: What are the requirements for you to be the commissioner?

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Speaker 3: Every day that I find myself going a ziprecruitter dot

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Speaker 3: com looking for the MLB commission apply for it, man,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What the requirements are? What

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Speaker 3: they're really look for? Like, what what's this guy's background?

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Speaker 3: When he's it had to be something with law or finance?

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Speaker 3: Is something besides douche? You can't be a master and douche.

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Speaker 1: He reminded me of a tweet that I saw a

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Speaker 1: what's the worst contract in baseball? And somebody said, Rob

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Speaker 1: Manfred is the worst deal in baseball. Whatever they're paying

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Speaker 1: him is is way too much to yeah, to like

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Speaker 1: at every turn, just trying to it's seemingly trying to

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Speaker 1: all these getting in the way every way that he can,

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Speaker 1: I mean, And the latest straw was parting ways with

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Speaker 1: But he for people that haven't heard, he'd been with

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Speaker 1: if you're If you're doing that, it's just going to

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Speaker 1: embolden more people to step up and rally behind the

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Speaker 3: He's not leading baseball in any direction. Really, that's how

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Speaker 3: it really feels.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's tearing us apart instead instead of

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Speaker 3: Last time you've seen Eli? When's the last time you've

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Speaker 3: seen a Major League Baseball commercial?

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Speaker 2: Forever? Go exactly? You know what I'm saying? What happened?

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Speaker 2: What happened to all these great campaigns Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 2: Would do? You know?

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Speaker 3: I remember this, Uh, I live for this campaign. It

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Speaker 2: Crowd going wild, and then it'd be like a live

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, there's a whole series of them.

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Speaker 3: Why the hell don't we have a campaign for this?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: MLB oh Man transitioning here. Let's talk about the job

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Speaker 3: Kim Ang has done here at the throne. When she's

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Speaker 3: been here a year and a half now, and yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think at this moment not even that. It's just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, two key guys that stood out that she acquired,

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Speaker 2: You know, you can put them all over place.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen him out in center field.

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Speaker 3: Statistically, I don't think he's ever played out in center field,

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Speaker 3: but I could be wrong on that. Excited to have

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Speaker 3: It's gonna give a lot of options to Don Mattingly,

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Speaker 2: You know, Versatility, I think is a key word.

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Speaker 3: I've ran out about this in the past, you know,

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Speaker 2: That was all cool, and I didn't want to come

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Speaker 3: But I just felt like this is this is cool

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Speaker 3: The momentum Kim and the Marlins had going into winter.

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Speaker 1: And I'm the center fielder that they could have had

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Speaker 1: part of it. Maybe maybe Aggie suspects that there could

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Speaker 1: be a deal going down on the other side of

435
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Speaker 1: the lockout, and that's why he wasn't feeling too attached

436
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 1: to it. That's that's one possibility.

437
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 3: You're a wise guy, Missus Sussman I think you might

438
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 3: be onto something there. Hey, so all right, man, let

439
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 3: me let me talk to you about one guy that

440
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 3: we forgot to mention that Kim deserves a lot of

441
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 3: credit for. We got to talk about Jacob Staalings. How

442
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: we went from having the guy with the most pass

443
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 3: balls to the guy with know pass balls.

444
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 2: How epic is that?

445
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't go any further on that aspect of

446
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: the game. And it goes more than just the pass balls.

447
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: It goes to just like the situational understand I had

448
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: to call a game. You know, the pictures on the

449
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: Marlin staff, especially in twenty twenty, remember when al Farow

450
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 1: was benched for Chad Wallach, like they were they were

451
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: not shy about kind of implying that that they weren't

452
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 1: on the same page with al Faro. That even though

453
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 1: Alfara has been a catcher, you know, his whole pro

454
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: career dating back to the minders, like a whole decade

455
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: of experience, that there still wasn't like an understanding of

456
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 1: what pitches a call and what situation and how to

457
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: set it up in a way, how to like properly

458
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: set up hitters to put them away. And I mean

459
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 1: the stats don't really bear that out, but it just anecdotally,

460
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: it was clear that that Alfaro wasn't getting what was

461
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: just a lot of people would say is the most

462
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: important part of being a catcher is having that really

463
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: firm and like being able to have a mind meld

464
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: with your pitcher, being on the exact same page with

465
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: what your picture is trying to do, and that those instincts.

466
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 1: You know, there's you could study it, but really some

467
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: of that is just like it in you and Alfaro

468
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: didn't really have that quality. The Padjets are going to

469
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: give him a shot. Stallings definitely has that quality in

470
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: terms of just totally having the mastery of the position

471
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: of how to use these pitches and as you said,

472
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: how to block the pitches as well when they're coming

473
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: his way, not just the pass balls. You know. The

474
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: other thing that goes hand in hand with that is

475
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: wild pitches. We like to draw a line between them.

476
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, one of them is the pitcher's fault, one

477
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: of them is the catcher's fault. But to be honest,

478
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: the catcher has a lot of impact on both of those.

479
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 1: You know, the catcher has a lot of impact on

480
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: those balls. In the dirt that otherwise could get away

481
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: from a lesser player. But Stallings, if you look at

482
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: it that way, when he was with the Pirates, you

483
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: know he was doing a better job overall in terms

484
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: of preventing wild pitches as well. So it was really

485
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: in all aspects of being able to defend his position

486
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: in that way, being a decent thrower and being able

487
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: to like allow these pitchers to get more comfortable with

488
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: their sequencing and all that. So I love the move

489
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: and especially what they gave up. I didn't feel they

490
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: gave up anybody that was all that essential to who

491
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: they had my dream and it was still I think

492
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: the best thing they could have done. It was on

493
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: the table is somehow bring over Wilson Contraras because Stallings.

494
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of worried about Stalling's bad. That's the thing.

495
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: Everyone to be at all worried. He does not hit

496
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: the ball hard at all. Like his most famous moment

497
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: as a hitter was this walk off grand Slam that

498
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: he hit last year against the Mets and Edwin Diaz,

499
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: and it is so famous just because off the bat

500
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: it looked like a pop up and it kind of

501
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: defied all the laws of physics getting over the wall.

502
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: There was no way it should have been able to

503
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: make it, and it was able to just clear it

504
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: by like the tiniest of margins and that ended up

505
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: being enough. But that's the type of stuff that's not

506
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: going to work for him at Lone Depot Park. So

507
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: he was having enough trouble hitting for power as a pirate.

508
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna hit for any power at

509
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: all with the Marlins and he it's gonna be not

510
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: a defense only player, but that's gonna be a whole

511
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: lot of his value. It's putting a lot of pressure

512
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: on him just they'll be a Gold Club caliber guy.

513
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he could do it, at least for the

514
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: first year of this deal, at least for twenty twenty two.

515
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Is an upgrade, it's gonna be different, you know, if

516
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: people are expecting him to be night and day difference

517
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: from the catching situation last year. I don't think it's

518
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: quite that simple. He's an upgrade, but he's not perfect.

519
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 3: I got a couple of jokes here, so so the

520
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: reason I'm gonna go back to Alfaro and they work

521
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: out because al Farrow was a left field that disguise

522
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: as they catch it.

523
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: It was a catch out of left field. You get it,

524
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: all right, I'm bad, I'm bad. It was anyway.

525
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think Jacob Sealim is kind of

526
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: giving me like if he comes in and he's got

527
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: that Paula Duka mentality, I think we'll be good.

528
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: You know. Paula Duka wasn't a guy that was known

529
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: for like hitting a lot of home runs and nothing

530
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: like that.

531
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Actually projected like I did, like a little little way

532
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: too early mock of my opening day lineup right, and

533
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: I got I got Stallings batting ninth, and I project

534
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: him to have ten home runs on the season.

535
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit much.

536
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: It is Lone Depot Park, you know, but maybe he

537
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: hit fucking thunder out on the road.

538
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: Man. I was trying to keep it PG man. I'm sorry.

539
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm running at. And that's what getting it

540
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: was Stalling. It's like, you gave him ten home runs

541
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: he hit Okay, So he had eight last year and

542
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: that was his career high. And I mean he's you know,

543
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: he's the thing about him offensively is he's really consistent

544
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: a year after year after year. His last three years,

545
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: he's been the exact same hitter really in each of

546
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: those years. But last year was the very first time

547
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: that he played a full length major league season. I

548
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: spoke to him about this when they held the introductory

549
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: presser right before the lockout, about how he'd never played

550
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: this much baseball in a year before, like this was

551
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: something brand new for him last year to be that

552
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: full time arder for a major league team, and how

553
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: his body was holding up, and so he seemed pretty

554
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: confident that he could do the same thing next year.

555
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of what he's supposed to say, is that

556
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: he's ready to like fill in the lineup every single

557
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: day if necessary. But you know, the track record isn't

558
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: really there, and like you just look at a lot

559
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: of the balls that he hits, you know, overall, he

560
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: just it's it's kind of discouraging. It's just he does

561
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: not seem like a guy that it's ballhard. He's a

562
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: guy that's really satisfied with his singles, and there's some

563
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: value to that. You know, that's going to be certainly

564
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: compared to somebody like Sandy Leone, where Sandy Lone he

565
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: can really pushed the limit right in terms of what

566
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: people can tolerate as offense from the catchup physician, Like,

567
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: people were saying all the right things about Sandy Leon

568
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: and how well he worked with people and like all

569
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the intangibles that he brought, but he was one of

570
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: the worst offensive players in the league because of his

571
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: whole package. You know, he hit a buck eighty every

572
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: single year and with no power, and like stop is

573
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: better than that. But there are you know, some similarities

574
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: where even on his best days, I wouldn't count on

575
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably forecast like five home runs for him. And

576
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: that's another way of saying it, is that I think

577
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: he's really near the bottom of the scale in that

578
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: hitting department, especially if he's gonna be catching like five

579
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: games a week, that that's going to wear you down.

580
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: Is That's what I'm worried about, is him just wearing

581
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: down from all the defensive responsibilities and from the fact

582
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: that Marlins at the moment, you know, they don't have

583
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: an established backup catcher, but they have some decent options

584
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: as long as we'll see what they do with between

585
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: Nick Fortes and Alex Jackson and Peyton Henry, Like, I'm

586
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: actually really interested in that battle for the backup spot

587
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: this time, because they really haven't had much of that

588
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: in the past few years, like a competition for that

589
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: final catch up spot. And this time they have three

590
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: guys and they're all young. All those guys are still

591
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: in their mid twenties, and Fortes really lit it up

592
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: small opportunity last year. He's the one that I hope

593
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: wins out. He's the one that I think sooner than

594
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: people think that he could be actually eating into a

595
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: lot of Stalling's playing time. I think it could be

596
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: closer to an even split of playing time if Nick

597
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: Fortes does what he's capable of. I'm worried, though, you know,

598
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: about them riding with Alex Jackson, just because they made

599
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: that trade for him. They don't want to look like

600
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: idiots and get rid of him, you know, just a

601
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: few months after we've seen them do that in the past.

602
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that getting back to, you know,

603
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: our overall thoughts about the kim ang Era. That's what

604
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: drove people crazy last year in twenty twenty one, is

605
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: that they stuck with They're playing Brinson every single day,

606
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: even once he cooled down. They were keeping Mags on

607
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: the roster throughout the entire year, even though it was

608
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: clear that he wasn't bringing anything to the table, and

609
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: that when it was time to get rid of Alfaro

610
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: after the trade deadline, you know, that was like the

611
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: time to say to say goodbye to him. It was

612
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: clear that he was not helping them win, that he

613
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: didn't have a future with the team, and yet they

614
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: rode with him the rest of the year in that

615
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: stupid left field experiment that this team in the past,

616
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, when they make mistakes, that they are stubborn.

617
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: It's been a stubborn front office in recently that goes

618
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: both before Kim got here and especially this past year

619
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: with her in charge. They don't They are really hesitant

620
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: to like admit mistakes even when the evidence is piling up,

621
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: and they got to be better at that, because you

622
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: need to win all these little battles on the roster.

623
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: You need to get something out of everybody on that

624
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: roster if they're going to be that surprise team and

625
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: if they are going to improve a life from where

626
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: they were this year.

627
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't have anybody. I don't project I don't have

628
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: any projections. I don't know what this little thing that

629
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: we have in front of us is it's hard to

630
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: see my eyes.

631
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't have the same vision anymore. I sound like

632
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: a dinosaur.

633
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: This is a lot on our screen. I threw up

634
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: the line of projection. This is from roster resource. Where

635
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: so their idea for what the I don't totally agree

636
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: with it. The way they based on current rosters, they'd

637
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: have Miggy leading off at shortstop. They'd have Jazz batting

638
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: second in the line up at second, av At in

639
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: the three spot playing right field, Aguilar in clean up

640
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: playing first, Hay Susanchiez and left betting fifth, then Brian Anderson.

641
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: They're not even assuming a DH. So that's kind of

642
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: the difference here is they're not assuming a DH, and

643
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: so they're squeezing Cooper to the bench right now, and

644
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: that could you know, if they do have a DH,

645
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: then they think that Laywin is gonna get sent down

646
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: to Triple A to start the year. And that just

647
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: goes back to the fact that I think there's gonna

648
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: be a trade somewhere or another because Laywin is ready

649
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: to play every day, and that there's some value to

650
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: both Coop and Aguilar, But to have all three of

651
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: them on the roster at the same time, it's kind

652
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: of clunky because you want that versatility, you know, the

653
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: way that this projection goes. They see Wendyl is obviously

654
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: on the roster, and Bertie is on the roster as well,

655
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: and between those two guys and Bertie playing a whole

656
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: lot of outfield, that that gives you a whole lot

657
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: of options and some good options. I'm a big I'm

658
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: on the Birdie train. I think he's going to bounce

659
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: back quite a bit from where he was last year.

660
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: That last year he got kind of unlucky and unfortunately

661
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: we just didn't get to se him on the field

662
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: the whole second half. But that's anyway, slicely that they

663
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: still need that one more They still need one more hitter,

664
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: and probably in the outfield. I just don't know how

665
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: they're going to get it. They're going to have to

666
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: make whether it's reach out to the Orioles or reach

667
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: out to the Diamondbacks about Cedric Mullins, about Catel Marte,

668
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: like there there are big players.

669
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: On hit up the Nationals. I want so, yeah, you want.

670
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: You mentioned this before we got on the show. Give

671
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: me I think you I guess what you're with. Peter

672
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Pratt on this. He's the one that's been hysterical about

673
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: want Soto to the Marlins. You want to make your

674
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: case about how come together?

675
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: Give them any three pitches you want, any three? Any three?

676
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Look at that. Some would be like, oh no, only two,

677
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: only two? Any three you want from the major league?

678
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Rosson do it?

679
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Sandy might be gone, Pablo's gone. Who else are you taking?

680
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Trevor Rodgers, Taylor or Trevor Rodgers or jezus Lozardo or six?

681
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: So Sanchez you can have ed with Cabrera, you can

682
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: have Max Meyer.

683
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: Who do you want man Semi? Juan Soda? All right,

684
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: he's on what's not on the jet?

685
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you brought this up, what I went to

686
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: is looking at Soda, what he's done in the big

687
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: leagues and comparing him to Miguel Cabrera and what Miggy

688
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: had done when he got traded. That was There's been

689
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of big trades that the Marlins have done

690
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: the past, lot unpopular trades. I think that one takes

691
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: the cake, isn't that takes the cake as the one

692
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: that they regret the most. Right, they broke my heart,

693
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: that's most pop And that's the one that pretty quickly

694
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: they realized they made a mistake and every for now

695
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: fifteen years on and he's still playing, and he's still

696
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: breaking records and like patting his Hall Fame cases not here,

697
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: And I think there are some similarities between them, to

698
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: be honest, Like you dive into it, and Soto is

699
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: he's younger, he's broken younger even than Miggy was when

700
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: he broke in. I think he's better. I think he's

701
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: a little bit better than even Miggy was at the time.

702
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about what's gonna take to make

703
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that trade, Marlins got what five or six players in

704
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: return for Miggy. That included a couple of guys at

705
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: the time who were premium super prospects. Cameron Maben. Everybody

706
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: loved Cameron Mayben. He was gonna be that five tool

707
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: center fielder and he had. That was a lot to

708
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: give up for the Tigers, to give up him, to

709
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: give up Andrew Miller, to give up a few other

710
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: veteran pieces around them. There's just not a lot of

711
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: history of these guys getting traded because they are that special,

712
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: because they're that hard to replace.

713
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: And keep in mind that they also threw Don troll

714
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Willis in there.

715
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: They did at a time when he was coming off

716
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: a bad year though, and I think think he was

717
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: more of as much as we love d trained earlier

718
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years prior to that, you know, at

719
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: that stage, he was kind of a throw in at

720
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: that point. I yeah, So just to be I think

721
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: everybody that's listening to this, almost everybody that's listening to this, no,

722
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: it's it's at least not now. It's not gonna happen.

723
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: But I understand why it comes to mind because the

724
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: nets they are, it's rough. You look at how they're

725
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: setting up for next year that they yeah, at least

726
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: for one year that unless they do a whole lot

727
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: once we come back from the lockout, that their team

728
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a chance. And as Sodo gets close

729
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: to their free agency. But I mean, really, the reason

730
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: why wouldn't work is because you know, he's a Scott

731
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Boris guy, and with the numbers that he's putting up,

732
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: he he's gonna wait until he gets a free agency

733
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I think, until he gets that really record breaking deal.

734
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Like there are great players that could trade for, but

735
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Sodo is at the top of the list. Of guys

736
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: that are next in line to get paid at like

737
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: a recue setting number five hundred million. Guy, I wouldn't

738
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: be shocked if he gets, you know, half a billion

739
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: dollars on his next contract. And you know, you know

740
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: deep in your heart that the Marlins are not gonna

741
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: be that team that ends up making that deal at

742
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: that price.

743
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: Why not usque the Mike Hill clip? Why not? Damn man?

744
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: A man kldream be like, it's twenty twenty two. Man,

745
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: Why can't Why do we have to have the mentality

746
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: that our team's not gonna do it? Come on, man,

747
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 3: let's make a fucking splash. I already said it once.

748
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: I can say it twice. Hey, hey, I don't I

749
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: forget what was the name of the page again? That's

750
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: doing this projection?

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: This is from Roster Resource, and I threw up the

752
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: pictures here. I wanted to at least mention the pictures

753
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: a little bit while we're here. I love I love

754
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: what they have, at least in the rotation.

755
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna go ahead and give you the Acon

756
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: all right, the Acon projections?

757
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, It's mine.

758
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: I got Jazz second Base Projecting twenty five home runs,

759
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: twenty five stolen bases, all right, we got batting second

760
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: shortstop mkhl Rojas. I got fifteen home runs, ten tolen

761
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: basis for the guy all right batting third.

762
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: Don Maddley's not gonna agree with me, but what the

763
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: hell this is mine, not his? All right?

764
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: I got a Zon Sanchez in right field, twenty five

765
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 3: home runs, not the RBI's all right, batting fourth, Abi

766
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: sel Garcian left field, twenty home runs eighty five RBIs.

767
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 3: We got Aggie at DH he has the same number

768
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: as twenty home runs eighty five RBIs. You got Coop

769
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: at first fifteen home runs seventy RBIs all right, And

770
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: I put Ba in this starting lineup, in this opening

771
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: day lineup, but I put means to bring a game

772
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: if it's versus a left handed pitcher, because BA hasn't

773
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: been all Ba, you know, versus left handers. He's he

774
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: hasn't been himself, so he needs to get it together.

775
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: If not, we got to get Joey Window, and there

776
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: gave him the opportunity. That's the beauty of having a

777
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: guy like Joey Window in their left handed bat nice

778
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 3: option after him. I got mister Brian de la Cruz

779
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: out in center field, Battie eighth. I got fifteen home

780
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: runs for DLC. Not putting too high a ceiling, you

781
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, something that he can achieve, he

782
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: can do, and then rounding it off.

783
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: You know, Jacob staalins ten home runs, baby, that's it.

784
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: That's it. If he hits ten home muns, we did it.

785
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: We don't need we don't need the.

786
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Guy to be also a caliber top ten offensive catcher.

787
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: If the guy does minimal and.

788
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: He's doing great things with the glove in the arm,

789
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: that's the same thing people can compare it to like

790
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: a and Alyx Gonzales.

791
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: I know, those different positions. But every time Gonzo would

792
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: come up.

793
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: In battles, like damn, Gonzo's either going to strike out

794
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: or he might strike gold and hit the double or

795
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: a home run. You know, that's hit or miss with Gonzo,

796
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: And that's the beauty of baseball. Not everybody has to

797
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: be a great offensive player, right.

798
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: But so that's that's where in this situation that I

799
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: see it differently because based on the guys that they

800
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: currently have, I got fingers crossed that they make it

801
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: more big trade or one other free agentcy deal, Like

802
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: some people have mentioned, there's some free agents still out

803
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: there and Michael Conforo and Kyle Schwarber, who you put

804
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: in the corner spot and you shift somebody else to

805
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: center field? Like there are a lot of you are

806
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you putting it?

807
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, who are you putting out in

808
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: center field? Right now?

809
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: We're talking about the Marlins outfield there. We got Brian

810
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 3: de la Cruz, you got Garcia, Hezel Sanchez, Gary Cooper.

811
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Who's the fact. I'm not gonna put Magneer Sierra in

812
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: it because we know he's the fastest one out of

813
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: all of them.

814
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 3: But out of those four guys that I mentioned, who's

815
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 3: the fastest one right there that you think is gonna

816
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: man loan people apart?

817
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: That is unnecessarily too big?

818
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Well, what's crazy is that ouse is of those guys,

819
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: he might be the well Birdie is the fastest one,

820
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: but he's the one that's.

821
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Not gonna be it's not gonna be together.

822
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: And it's not really as much as I like him,

823
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: You don't pennsil Limits an everyday player definitely, I mean,

824
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: but one they currently have. It would be for me

825
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: at the moment you put Hayesius Sanchez and left in,

826
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: Brian de la Cruz in center, and obviously el Garcia

827
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: and right. I'm assuming that if they make some type

828
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: of trade, it's the get like a corner, a new

829
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: corner bat that the next guy if Brian dela Cruiz

830
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: gets bumped out of that starting lineup, then the next

831
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: guy you would slide in there would actually be obviously

832
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Ale because he's the one that did play a lot

833
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: of center field in twenty twenty. I looked this up

834
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: and it was hysterical that he is like the fattest guy,

835
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: the heaviest guy to ever play center field on a

836
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: consistent basis in the majors. He was weighing in. I

837
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: pull up the number, like about two hundred and sixty pounds.

838
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: Right in the twenty twenty season. He was overweight. Who

839
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting to be a center fielder. He got pushed

840
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: into it kind of by default with the Brewers. They

841
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody else, and he didn't do great out there.

842
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: He moved film.

843
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: So you're telling me, you're telling me in football terms,

844
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: when people are listening to football and we had a

845
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: center out in center field, Come on, man, Hey, I

846
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: said it onto the Twitter spaces when we signed Garcia

847
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: and everybody was all happy and everything.

848
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll take this guy on in the foot race.

849
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: I'll take him month, We'll go from from home to first,

850
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: and I'll beat him out.

851
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: He's always been He's always had like for his size,

852
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: he's always been really fast. It's just it's other finer

853
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: details about how to play the position that I don't

854
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: think he really has. He's fine there in an emergency,

855
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: and the team actually believes that a little bit. I

856
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason why they signed him

857
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: to a deal that was not people. A lot of

858
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: people were expecting him to get a four year guaranteed

859
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: deal the fifth year option at the end. They did

860
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: that because they liked his is athletics. He does have

861
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: a legitimate athleticism that they think can help them in

862
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: that department. But that being said, what the team as

863
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: is currently constructed, that as much as I like the

864
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: pitching staff a lot, at the moment like, there's no

865
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: combination of pieces to me that gets this current team

866
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Do you agree with that based on

867
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: what they currently have.

868
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely need we have a whole, big hole

869
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: that we got to take care of. Like all those

870
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: guys that I projected him on the Akon lineup, none

871
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: of those guys had over one hundred RBIs projected, right,

872
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like you also got to take

873
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: into the type of team that you have. The yeah

874
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: Aguie Lar, Yeah, Coop, Yeah, Garcia, you know, Sanchez are

875
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: all nice bats and everything, but these guys like they're not.

876
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: Going to hit for like over thirty home runs.

877
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna hit over thirty home runs, and if they do,

878
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be wholly crap surprised.

879
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Right to what you were saying a few minutes ago,

880
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: a mental responsive about Stallin and how he doesn't need

881
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: to be anything more than just a defense guy. My

882
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: thinking is that on this team as currently constructed, there

883
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: is the pressure on him to be more of an

884
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: all round player because there's not enough from the supporting

885
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: cast to pick up the slack that they don't have

886
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: enough offense from those other positions. They have good sometimes

887
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: they have a lot of solid guys at those other positions,

888
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: but you add it all together and it's just it's

889
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: still going to be below average. They were terrible at

890
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: scoring rounds last year. They're improved, but not enough. There's

891
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: still exactly a year that they have to go to.

892
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Any way you switch around these positions. The only way

893
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: that they get to that gear is if somebody breaks out.

894
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: If Jazz, there's like this thought of Jazz as being

895
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: that emerging superstar. He didn't look like it totally on

896
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: the field last year. He struggled for a big stretch

897
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: up last year, and you put all together, he was fine.

898
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: If he's the guy that has the potential to take

899
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: a leap forward, and they like they have a really

900
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: interesting cast of next man up up in the minor leagues.

901
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: People know about JJ Blade, people will soon know about

902
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: Peydon Burdick, who had a great year and he has

903
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: great power potential. He's built a lot like I guess

904
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: he's a shorter version of Avy Garcia where he probably

905
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how much he weighs. He is

906
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: all the way filled out, but he's like six feet tall.

907
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: He has some Josh Willingham in him. I compare him

908
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: to Hammer. Yeah, another Hammer potentially if everything goes together

909
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: and we'll see him in the majors later this year, like.

910
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: It would be great if he catches.

911
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: You can dream about these guys like being reinforcements during

912
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: the year and taking them to another level, taking a

913
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: step up. But if they are really focused on being

914
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: contenders from the start of this year, if they want

915
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: to avoid getting off to a bad start the way

916
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: that they did, especially in twenty nineteen and even last year,

917
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate really flat as well, and

918
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: never digging themselves out of it, then yeah, they need

919
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: to do more. Make sure that they're ready, because they're

920
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: not totally ready to be that good team at the

921
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: gate next year because the offense is still too limited.

922
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still I got them.

923
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: I like the improvements that they've made, but I still

924
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 3: feel a little short changed.

925
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Again, I'm gonna say.

926
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Being optimists and thing positive and you know, once we

927
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: get out of the strike, Kim's gonna keep rolling.

928
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: She's hot, you know what I'm saying.

929
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: She's hot at the crap table, So keep going, Kim

930
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: uh to go out there, yes the center field there

931
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: and make it happen. But as it stands right now,

932
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm projecting our fish. Call me an optimist, but I'm

933
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: seeing finishing third the Braves World Cities Champs.

934
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: We gotta give him credit with credits due. They're gonna

935
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: have to be the throne.

936
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: They got a guy, some guy named Akunya coming back

937
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: that you know a lot of fans dislike out here

938
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: in South Florida.

939
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: Well, for the moment, they don't have Freddy Freeman. Freddy

940
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Freeman is still out there in free agency.

941
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: They're not gonna let him walk. Man, come on, man.

942
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: You think he's you think he's resigning, said.

943
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, come on, and he's a Brave's life here.

944
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: Come on.

945
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: You don't think Chipping Jones is calling to him. Johnson

946
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: everybody telling her, Yo, my man, you did it. Where

947
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: the hell you going? You think his kid's.

948
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: Gonna allow him to go somewhere else, get out of

949
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: the town. That was gonna tell you, all right.

950
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: So yes, so I got projected as of right now,

951
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: I got Braves, Mets, Marlins, Philly's nuts.

952
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: Right, That's That's what I'm going with.

953
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry at that times it sounds like I'm critical

954
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: of the team.

955
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: But if I'm critical, man, it's because I care. You

956
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

957
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: I always think of every time I say that, man,

958
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: I think about saying Jo Robo, Man, I think about

959
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: that first season covered the team and being in the clubhouse,

960
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: and you think you're like you're a little bit nervous

961
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: or something.

962
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: You're critical. You're critical and you're nervous because you care.

963
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: And that's deep.

964
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you want to

965
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: be critical, something you want to be critical of this

966
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: team is because we care. This fan based kids. You

967
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: don't want people not talking about the team.

968
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: Look at this man, and.

969
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: We're in the middle of a striking no what can

970
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: be need tell? Look at the great job Fish Stripes

971
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: is doing. How with this Marlond Jeopardy, all the content

972
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: that we're providing keeping everybody alive pumping. You know what

973
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying that baseball passionate enthusiasm into into our hearts,

974
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: into our veins, and that's the beauty of it. That's

975
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: what's gonna get us to keep it going till baseball seasons.

976
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: There.

977
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: Man, Look it's we're in January already, baby, a whole

978
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: week into it.

979
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Spring trainings right around the corner. You know what I'm saying.

980
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: Now's about the time where everybody's gonna go out and

981
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: get like the clean cut.

982
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Look at you. I ain't getting no no cut yet.

983
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: I haven't let me and the barber haven't made up yet.

984
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: So I'm still like rocking hard with the long head.

985
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: But look at look at Eli. Eli is ready for

986
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: spring training. We've got the clean cut. You know what

987
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Shad, Yeah, and so so you know, I'm

988
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: gonna stay positive. I know great things are gonna happen.

989
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: I feel like a barbecue's coming real soon, you know,

990
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: And I feel like our baseball's right around the corner.

991
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe these guys only need just one

992
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: meeting players union and the owners, and bam, they just

993
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: do it.

994
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Well. You said you being an optimist, and you're definitely

995
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: being an opto Yeah, from the from the asset. You know,

996
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm still the opinion that they get all settled without

997
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: interrupting the regular season. What I'm worried about is spring training.

998
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm worried about like them really eating into spring training

999
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: and screwing up that schedule. And you know, for me personally,

1000
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I was planning all flying down in spring training this

1001
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: year and I can't book my tickets until I know,

1002
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, what's what's going on. And when players that

1003
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: are allowed to report, you know, they could report to uh,

1004
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: they could fly into Jupiter. They can not allowed in

1005
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: the team facilities during the lockout, just so people understand,

1006
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: you know how ridiculous this is. Actually the minor leaguers

1007
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: are all the minor league players. Their season is gonna

1008
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: go on as normal. And that's that's I guess that's

1009
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: one thing in remind people is that there's gonna be

1010
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: baseball played this year. We know it's gonna be played

1011
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues. Of the question is, of course,

1012
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: at the highest level. And we know that this year

1013
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: is the most critical year yet for the Marlins to

1014
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: win at the highest level at the major league level

1015
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: and put it all together and give the fans something

1016
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: to root for and show out for. And then that's

1017
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. That there has been some bad luck,

1018
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: you know with this rebuild overall, the fact that COVID

1019
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: struck when it struck, and kind of that that was

1020
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: supposed to be a big year for them too in

1021
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and on all all the lingering effects of

1022
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: the pandemic has had. In addition to collective bargaining, man like,

1023
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't make excuses for the team, but in some

1024
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: ways we have an article that went up from from

1025
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Barral about like grading the rebuild and like putting

1026
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: that in perspective. And there it's been a really like

1027
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of years in baseball that have

1028
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: been unlike any other, these last years. And it strikes

1029
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: at a time that when they put these plans together,

1030
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: they had this five year plan right for how the

1031
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Marlins were going to look under new ownership Project Wolverine.

1032
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: That got leaked out to the Herald about Jeter's plans

1033
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: for the revenue, for all the innovations that were gonna

1034
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: put out, And I encourage people to like look at

1035
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: read that and like see the details in there, and

1036
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: how like how off they were, just because like real

1037
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: life comes at you man, like it's so much different

1038
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: than you can plan out, especially the timing of this

1039
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: it has been. It's gone way differently than anybody could

1040
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: hope for. But just segaling back to what you said,

1041
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: we stay busy. There's at fish Stripes, you know, we

1042
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: breathe Marlin's baseball, you know, and even when that baseball

1043
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: is not being played, that's on our minds and that's

1044
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna find ways to still enjoyed and still celebrate

1045
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: it with other people. So we hope that's been working

1046
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: out and we hope that people appreciate that. Go to

1047
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: fish Stripes dot com. We're doing our best for sure.

1048
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: Yo.

1049
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: Man, you know what's funny real quick before we close

1050
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: this out, shout out to shout out to everybody on

1051
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: the fish.

1052
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: Shipe the staff.

1053
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Man.

1054
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: I was laughing at uh when you say Kevin, And

1055
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 2: every time I think about Kevin. Now, hey, you guys,

1056
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: quit bullying him, man. Quit tell them about Chuck E

1057
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 2: Cheese and all this. Yeah, y'all hit him with y'all

1058
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: quit doing that to my man. Kevin. Man, he's a

1059
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: cool boy.

1060
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: We love getting. We do it because we know we

1061
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: can take it. He can sell.

1062
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: It's all right, Kevin. We'll get you a happy meal

1063
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: man opening day. I got you my dollar anyway.

1064
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: Man, it's good to be back out here on the

1065
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: way he's talking, Marlon's baseball talking well inside, Eli Sussman

1066
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: and Alex Treres. Thanks for joining us out here, uh, Eli, man, Yo,

1067
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: cue the music, do your thing and cue the music.

1068
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on again. Man, happy to see

1069
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: you and let's go fish Baby