WEBVTT - MARCUS SPEARS PART 2 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.640 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.920 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.920 Steve Smith Senior and I'm Little John and this is 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.360 cut to it. Cut do it, Cut do it. Let's 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.880 get down to do it. God do it. We asked 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.160 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:29.080 ever asked, let's cut to it. If you ain't heard 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:34.720 about it, then we're about to let you know. It's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:43.600 all My uncle Phield used to tell me. Literally, I 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.320 got an uncle nay Field, Philip Spears, and my grandfather's brother. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.360 He used to tell me all the time. The smartest 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.320 men in the world know what they don't know like 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:59.400 and you can't be you can't be um so immature 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.800 and not the not acknowledge that. Like man, Listen, bro, 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.920 I've spent the last four years with Dan Orloski. I've 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.520 learned more about quarterback play in the last four years 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.720 than I did mind Ticker in the NFL, because that's 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.759 his area of expertise. And tell walkers, walk us through 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.000 what you've learned and get and give Dan some credit 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.119 walking through what you've learned over what he's he's giving you. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.920 Because people do look at Dan and I and and 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.640 you could tell him. I said this because Dan is 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.720 Dan's text someone that's text me to tell Dan said, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.399 stay off such as such. But you know the quarterbacks. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.520 But I just I'm on the quarterbacks a lot because 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.720 they get paid so much money. I've said this. We 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.760 had Doug Williams on and I asked him. You won't 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.280 hire a receiver that can catch. You won't keep a 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.160 running back that can't hit the whole your damn show, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.600 won't let the left tackle who can't block stay. But yeah, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.840 you'll give a quarterback a bonus, extend him for being 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.400 a I. And then he goes, well, let's talk about 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.880 just backups, right, and I, oh goodness, talk about back ups. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.120 You allow a backup who you hope, Let's be honest, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:19.120 you pray that backup never ever, ever, ever place unless 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:24.280 you need folks. Right, So tell us about Dan, What 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.080 what he's taught you, and why why has that been 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.560 so good? And what what exactly? Just just big up 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.000 Dan and just what he's done for you. Well, one thing, man, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.200 is you know we we never sit in quarters. Well 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.239 I never said in a quarterback meeting, So to hear 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.440 some of the verbis that go on, how those meetings 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.239 are conducted, and then to just like quarterback play from 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.040 you know, this meeting, like you were talking about Tyrek 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.360 Hill crayon routes and all of that. Um, I didn't 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.640 know how important it was to marry your feet with 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.520 your upper body. Um, to have your shoulder pointing to 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:07.880 your target. Yeah. You don't play golfer, No, not at all. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:12.280 That's why a lot of the quarterbacks are extremely well golfers. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.440 So a lot of the technique with it right, Um, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.600 A lot of the things that they have to see 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.519 prior to a ball being snapped that that is either 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.600 gonna help their team or put their team in the 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.959 worst possible situation they can be in. Still a line, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.239 you want to get your line to use, quarterbacks must 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.280 confirm where they're going with the ball before the snapper, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:40.600 before not discovering. If you're discovering and you that receiver, yeah, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.240 that bad news. We wanted you to be that way. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.760 I'm speaking as a defensive We wanted you to be 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.200 that way. We didn't like what we talked about with 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.960 Peyton and what we talked about with Tom is that 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.240 they know where you're going before you know. Sometimes they're 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:59.280 telling you the line of hey, shift, don't exactly like 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.680 big fella. If you don't move, we're gonna run right there. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.840 But but but I'd have been up before with Peyton, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.720 like bro first year in Baltimore, Payton through six touchdowns 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.360 on us when I was with the Ravens and me 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.920 and me and Terrel so Sizzle was sitting on the bench. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.680 Sis said, they ain't nothing we can do. We we 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.560 We called Dan ps who was out decordinator, said, Dean, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.960 you know everything we're doing, he said, he said, best 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:30.880 to luck to y'alls. You're talking to. Dean is with 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:37.800 the defense, courting that he's in Atlanta right now. Dean 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.640 was in Baltimore to Dean, but he came to tell you, hey, well, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.560 all we can do is bless him. All we can 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:50.159 do it. Thanks go or you come in the offense 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.000 and defense they say, hey, office, we need some help 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.040 from you. Yep, reality bro. So I think a lot 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.840 of it, man, A lot of it. Um is just 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.280 see kind of seeing the picture through a guy that 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.280 was behind center. And honestly, like when I'm when I'm 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.880 on set, like even with even with Ryan Clark RC, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.040 the secondary plate. Now I had a great idea of 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.880 that because when I was at L s U, we 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.000 did a lot of his own pressure. So I had 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.680 to understand um coverages. I had understand where dudes would be, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.359 where my flat area was, where my drop hooks was, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.280 all of that type of stuff. But but just like 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.200 seeing it from a safety who played downhill, like what 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.920 it is like when you what it's like when when 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.719 when Marvin Harrison running a running a crosser and you 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.640 know that you can't run with it, Like what's the 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.359 technique to try to intercept him? Not the ball, just 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:51.680 to get him on the grounds, right. So it's just 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.000 it's a it's a lot of stuff, man, And and 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:59.320 I think that's why, Um, that's why for me, like 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.000 being around on different different guys like and and to 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.680 your point, different levels of expertise. Louis Riddick was in 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.599 the front office is also you know what I'm saying, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.960 Like he had to break he had his job depended 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.839 on getting the right guys, like making sure that the 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.720 talent he was seeing allaying with what they was gonna 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.760 do when they got to that team or he was 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.400 out of them. Um, So it's just a lot, bro, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.760 It's a lot Man. Even Mina comes and I know 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.120 people get crazy. Bro, I have the amount of film 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.880 and breakdown in time that Mina puts into understanding football 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.920 and really knowing by talking to players. If you ever 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:46.560 with Mina comes around the NFL like people, why how 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.680 many players show her respect? I met her? This is 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.640 the first time I get I got the meter. We're 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.560 at the combine and I said that was great me 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.279 and you. I love what you do and your respect. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.520 And she came and gave me that look like yeah, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:06.360 sure you do right. But here's the problem. But here's 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.160 the problem. I don't hand out those compliments to everybody 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.840 because there's a lot of times I see a lot 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.960 of people on television. I don't think they're great. I 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.960 don't think they do a good job. I think sometimes 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.520 they're lazy, right. And the reason I know is because 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.280 there are times I've been lazy where I I know, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:29.720 I know I'm gonna be on a show where maybe 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.800 my football knowledge is not required as much they want 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.560 to store they want to They desire the storyteller, and 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.440 I don't like the storyteller. I like the storytelling in 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.160 in like this setting where we can we can mixture football, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:51.240 and the storytelling amplifies the conversation, but not where the 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.679 storytelling and it minimizes the football knowledge because the people 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.320 that are getting paid to represent a talk about football 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.720 actually don't know any football. So I try to show 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.040 sometimes I'm just kind of you to do that. I 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.000 don't say this man like, I don't go that far. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.680 I just listened to the people. I think, you know 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.560 what the hell they're talking about? Well, I like to 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.600 I like to watch everybody because it gives me. It 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.280 gives me a sense, right I And is so much 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:26.200 sports out there that I also I stay out of 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.960 it because you can get inundated. You can go down 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.880 a worm hole, a false false like I mean, you 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.720 can find some alternative facts. Yeah, you start getting, you 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.400 get You get a post for sixteen seconds that people 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.120 are following you. One point five million people view a 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.160 sixteen second post because I'm in the New York Giants uniform, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.440 UH coaching staff and say, hey, I'm going to coach 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.400 it on. Oh it must be real And it happens 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:57.600 every summer for both of y'all being in this sports 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.760 media game. What has changed that you're a fan of 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.360 and then what would you like to see you change. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.960 I'm a fan of players having a voice, and they 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.720 all platforms. I like that, um because when when smittic 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.440 in the test when we was in the league, you 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.520 only got what you gave a sound bite up. Um. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.199 You know this whole thing with Drake Muond and this 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.360 podcast right now after after games and he's not playing 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.520 well that that he not muted because he didn't play 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.520 a good basketball game, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.160 Like now, you could get into what he's doing spending 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.960 this time. I don't care about that. That's a grown man, um. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.440 But ultimately I understand the other side is that you 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.520 know people watching that, watching you playing the finals, and 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.400 they yeah, they quote unquote had his expectation of what 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.360 you should be doing when you're not playing, um, living 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.240 your life. And I run into issues with that, But 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.840 that's for a whole another podcast when we get into it. Um. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.400 But ultimately, for me, man, I like players having a voice. UM. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.480 I like I like when they say stuff because you 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.600 get to you get to know how they really think it. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.160 Yeah they see. That's the other part too. It does 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:11.880 give you a peek into who they are, right and 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:16.319 and and the one thing I do love about podcasts 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.640 that I love to listen to. It's how they transition. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:26.560 The transition tells you how they're thinking from the game 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.560 to the podcast in the conversations. A great, great example 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:35.559 Tarik Hill or Cheetah. I listened to it, how he transitioned, 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.600 what he said, how he said it, his eyes, his 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.960 his attire. Right, he's wearing his his jersey with a suit. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.480 He's trying to fix it and figure it out, and 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.440 he's utilizing his stuff. The only advice I'll give him 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:54.280 is when he's no longer, can he sustain it? And 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:59.160 can he does he give hisself an opportunity and does 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.320 he give his helf from the opportunity? Like we are 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.240 where people are engaged and there's enough things to discuss 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.640 in its organic And that's my that's my only thing 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.840 is he's hot right now. But at some point will 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.880 you be able with my coach? She always tells me, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.120 Jail Montgomery, right, shout out to Jail. Make it about 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.200 the other person. Yeah, right, And so that that's the 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.920 only thing right, even even you though, like right like 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.319 I heard I heard, I heard M J. J. Reddy 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.080 Uh say something that that that was intriguing to me. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.120 Y'all know, I love basketball, man, I love talking about it. Um. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:48.040 But he talked about um steps, competitive stamina right Like. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.560 I didn't accomplished all this, Bro, I canna walk away 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.080 from the game as one of the top seven, if 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.240 five players ever in the history of the NBA. That's 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.640 why I have a tremendous amount of respect for Lebron. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.640 Tremendous amount of respect for use to me a career 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.040 where you continue to elevate, but in the off season 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.320 you approach it like you saw it right like, and 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.560 sometimes that don't translate to being a Hall of Fame 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.280 or great player. I work my ass off in the 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.080 off season like I approached every off season like I 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.079 had to earn a job because you went in saying right, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.880 I never went in saying I'm a first round pick 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.520 them up. I'm gonna how this. They're gonna know. I 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.960 gotta earn this job every single year. Um, And some 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.720 dudes don't. Some dudes they stuff, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.120 They like the stuff. It ain't they run out of 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.880 the energy to continue to prepare and get ready. Um. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.199 But for me, like to your point, having an inside 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.240 view of how these guys not only operate when they balled, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.240 because we could see that they got the footage of 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.760 that um, But like, you know, what's important tool what 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.040 kind of stuff are they saying? You know, we could 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.439 see the tend we could see the thirty second minute 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.920 and a half workout clips, but is it translating to 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.440 what we see when you play on Sunday or what 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.600 we see when you're playing on the court. So I 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.600 just like that. I like that they have a have 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.120 a voice because for me, it says you can't lie 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.800 to me through sound bites, and and so that leads 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.200 that leads me to the one thing I dislike about 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:24.320 working in media is former players have to when we 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:31.680 when we break news, they have to verify. Yeah, but 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.920 other media people who are not former players, there's no 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:42.360 verification required, go with it. Yes, And that that's the 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.880 one thing, and and and as a former player I 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:51.320 dislike I the one thing. There's a few things I dislike. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.000 One of the other biggest things I dislike is beat 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:59.200 writers who give a false a false security, a false 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:05.720 sens to the fans that they actually do know the 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.160 players they're covering because they don't like not every beat 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:17.319 writer actually has a really good relationship, but understanding of 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.000 that individual. They sometimes only know that individual for the 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:25.280 fifteen or twenty minutes of open locker room based off 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.480 if they even speak to him. They may see someone 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.720 and say, oh, he's always upset. Sometimes maybe they just 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.320 have that resting face, that's his demeanor. But oh, he's 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.960 always angry. But have you ever spoke to him? Right, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.320 And then they go to, well, I have to write 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.200 the article based on like my eight year old grandmother 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.040 is reading it, meanings, I have to state all the 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.720 bad things, not the good things, all the bad things 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.000 to tell you how he got to today. And a 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:03.120 lot of beat writers the fans stink, oh you know, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.520 I'm using to us an example. Gerard little John has 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.280 a great relationship with all of the all of the 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.480 Carolina Panthers players here, So when he writes this article, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.920 he must have talked to several people. He may talk 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:22.520 to one scout who may have a extra grind or 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.160 a reason to talk about that individual, So there's a 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:31.720 false narrative of that. They're all close ahead. I'm gonna 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.640 get an example. Let's tell you what I hate, all right, 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.600 and it just happened I hated this Davante Aaron Rodgers thing. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.400 All right, bro, it's coming sense for Davante Adams not 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:42.920 the one to be in Green Bay. He don't know 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.360 if it's the quarterback coming back, but I said it 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.680 on television and I'm hating you when you just don't 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.240 like Aaron Rodgers. No, if if me, it's me to 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.840 go into business together. And every day on summer he 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.920 telling me, Man, I'm about to bow out. I'm gonna 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.240 say on my half, I'm gonna sell my share, and 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.760 an opportunity comes along for me to have stability. And 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.200 I've been on this roller coaster with Smitty, I probably 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.200 should take that stable situation and the business with your 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.800 best friend that you that you grew up with ya 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.720 playing high school, so I had I had a big 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.680 issue with the whole um. No, No, it's they. It's fine. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.040 They they love each other. They hug when he threw 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.760 his hundred touchdown and look broke a lot of NFL 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:34.600 relationships in locker rooms are necessity. It ain't real. Circumstantials, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.520 circumstantial ain't real. Friendships that ain't real. Brothers were cool. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.000 We go alone and get along at times, and sometimes 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.000 we just flat out no, like some of our team. Yeah, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.720 that's the reality. So that that's the part that that 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.520 bothers me about some of the media now is that 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.720 it's it's either because of the success that they see 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.160 it happened in a three hour window. They assume that 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.800 this alliance and brotherhood just exists, like we're doing dinner together. Bro. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.520 Majority of the NFL players go home to their family 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.000 and don't talk to their team. They say it said 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.320 the next day, are you serious? I know, dudes, but 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.760 but yeah, man, like, but but you know something to 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.760 your point, man, Sometimes it's this false narrative that that 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.919 it's just this one structured way to have success. Like 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.399 if a team win a championship, everybody is on the 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.440 same page. That's a lie. No, they ain't. Like there's 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.760 here's the thing that a lot of people don't know, man, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.000 that Baltimore Ravens team when they want to super Bowl, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.240 it was anarchy. It was beef and it was like 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:47.200 inmates was about to overtake the press. I'm not even 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.880 gonna get into it, but I'm just I just know 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.760 it was bananas what I heard. But yet when I 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.200 got to Baltimore, we had some issues oh, it's just 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:04.200 like such a such year. We I was like, what yeah, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:10.399 and I heard and that just lets you know, well, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:11.840 I had a good I had a good time. Let 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.680 me say this. I had a good time in Baltimore 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.560 because I was still in checks. That was really all 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.800 that investment I wanted the two gaps played first second down, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.720 get three or four tackles a game, and then let 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.040 the young Bucks come in and get all that pass 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.320 rushing and all that our new system. So I had 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.120 a great time. I had agreed that I went downtown 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.879 with Smidia after games and we got at the what 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.359 it was that the Ritz and we would sit there 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.240 at the ball and enjoy ourselves. And not for one 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.199 minute of that season when I was in Baltimore that 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.320 I think I need to I need to get I 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.520 need to come out here and I need to be 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.520 a great superstar player. Not one time, not one time. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.399 I just wanted to do my job and get my 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.240 check and get the hell out of there. When the 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.399 season was over, and and and and the Lord be 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.920 knowing what we need, because they cut me week eight 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.760 and submitted the next day. I was back in Dallas 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:18.240 at my I love cut to it and I love 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.399 it even more when you download us and subscribe, and 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.080 you can follow us on social media too, Smithie, where 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.040 where at? That's at? Cut to it on Instagram? What 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:33.280 about Twitter? At? Cut to It Facebook? Cut to It 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.199 featuring Steve Smith singr? What about online? And you can 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.879 follow us at cut to It podcast dot com where 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.000 you can buy merch and you can subscribe to us 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:47.760 wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Uh, yeah, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.760 I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.640 a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. What did 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.320 you think about retirement would be? Yeah? And and now 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:05.080 you're retired, what has it been? Um? I thought retirement 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.040 would be I want to just do whatever I want 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.240 to do all the time, no schedule, I just wanna. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.879 I'm I'm fishing, hun, I'm a comfortable I fish. I 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.600 thought that's what I was gonna be doing, and following 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.760 my kids around because I figured they'd be athletes. My 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.439 wife played in the w n b A, so we 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:26.440 knew our kids was gonna be athletes and some some capacity. Um, 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.560 but but then not realizing, Man, I think a lot 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.479 of players I went through like I went through like 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.439 two and a half three weeks of depression. Um, I 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.879 didn't know how to define it at the time, but 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.440 my wife was like, I think you need to gonna 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:43.480 talk to somebody because but for real, bro, seriously, Like 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.120 and I thought about it, man, after you know, after 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.439 talking to the therapist. I thought about it. From the 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.560 age of six until I was thirty one, I knew 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.600 what my year was gonna look like. I knew football 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.600 season was coming, basketball season, and then when you get 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:58.960 to the pros, you know how structured we are. We 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.240 got our times in the yield, what we decided to do, 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.280 what we do, and then when it's gone. And that's 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.240 what I tell everybody, Bro, they don't throw no parade, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.200 they don't throw like there's no there is no exit 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.440 program that you go through to to get you ready 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.879 for quote unquote normal civilian life. Um, Jared Jones ain't 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.960 called me one time to check on me to see 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.760 how I'm doing right. So it's it's just it's just 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.000 one of them things where I went through that phase 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.040 and then when I what I realized is and retirement 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.679 holdamn overrated, bro, I gotta have something to do, Like, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.080 I gotta have something to do. I gotta have a 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.200 purpose outside of my main purpose, which is to love 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.399 my wife, take care of my kids, and let the 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.320 Lord lead me where I need to be. Um, but 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.280 from a work standpoint, doing what I'm doing in television now, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.439 I tell people all the time, bro, the reason why 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.640 I have a great time is because this, this job 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.280 is still not real to me. Like, I can't believe 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.680 you can make this much money talking about football like that. 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:03.399 I just didn't. I never equated potentially making more in 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.560 a television career than I did in my football career. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.520 I never thought that was like something that was possible. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.320 And then and then the other part, man, is like 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.640 I like structure as much as I can probably say 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.359 it all my life. I want to be where I 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.880 want to be. I don't wanta know about it telling 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.120 me where I need to go. I do like having 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.200 a having a having a calendar. I do like having 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.800 things that I want to get accomplished, but also having 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.879 a having a job structure of Look, you're gonna be 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:36.359 doing this between September and February, right, and you got combined, 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.960 and you got um the Super Bowl, and you got 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.280 the Pro Bowl, and then to all of the experiences 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.520 that TV has afforded me as well. Smitty, I met 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.240 you in Charlotte because of television, like I was working 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.560 at the SEC Network at the time. Um, So it's 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.840 it's a lot of that, man. So I've I've enjoyed 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.159 not only having you know, being able to work at 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.080 ESPN and you know, ascending and have success in this 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.960 in this arena, but also like the stuff that what 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.359 I tell people all the time is the gnomes for 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.320 me should be the nomes. I'm never gonna sacrifice time 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.800 with my wife or my kids when when it doesn't 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:21.400 need to be for any job because I don't have to, right, 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.040 like the Good Lord gave me a long career to 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.879 care my money and I'm fine, um, But also do 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.840 value my responsibility to my job and to my co 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.800 workers who depend on me to do what I do. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.320 So that to balance both of those things and still 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.800 be able to live within those and give the proper 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.080 amount of time and attention that they need is something 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.400