WEBVTT - FROM THE VAULT: The Goonies (40th Anniversary Edition) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:09.799 Too Much Information is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello everyone, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.239 and welcome to Too Much Information, the show that gives 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.640 you the secret stories, a little known facts behind your 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.040 favorite music, movies, TV shows, and more. We are your 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.520 two one eyed Willies of wanton Over explanation. My name's 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.600 Jordan run Tugg. These are just getting longer and longer. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.599 It's gonna be a run on sentenced by the time 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.800 we're through with it. And I'm Alex Heigel. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.400 Yes, and today we are talking about the Goonies. Yes, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.880 one of my favorite movies of the eighties. We've had 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.279 several requests for this one, which is really great. So 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.720 nice to know that you're as excited about these as 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.720 we are. Quick PSA. Feel free to reach out with 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.120 any topic requests, find us on Twitter or whatever. We 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.600 love to hear from you. But Goonies is a special 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.400 one because this was one of those movies that I'd 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.240 watch on repeat, really almost every day as a kid. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.560 I loved it so much. I have nothing especially enlightening 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.520 to say about it. I just think it's a wonderful movie. Basically, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.720 it's Junior Indiana Jones, which makes sense considering it came 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.520 from the mind of Steven Spielberg. I personally love gang 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.040 movies like this, and The Sandlot definitely gave me unrealistic 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.520 expectations about like friendship goals and the Beatles too. I 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:17.280 guess you know, Sandlot, Goonies, Beatles, all great gangs. I 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.520 was also really obsessed with shipwrecks as a kid, so 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.160 he sent me into like my family basement in search 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.399 of something akin to the treasure map that sets this 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.959 plot in motion. Hock. We talked a little bit about 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.559 this earlier. What are your thoughts on this movie? 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.200 I don't have love for it the same way you do, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.720 but it's great. I don't know what you're gonna do 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.960 on the Coonies. It's incredible, I mean, inspiring on all cylinders. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.880 It's Richard Donner and Steven Spielberg. It's like, even if 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.640 it didn't have the amazing cast that it had and 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:47.800 the sort of rough hewn charm, it would have still 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.280 been a great movie just by virtue of those guys 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.000 knew how to make movies. Yeah, I don't know. I 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.960 mean we talked a little bit about this when we 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.880 were first pitching this. But like the eighties, like fan 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.680 to see movie that I watched more was Eddie Murphy 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.320 starring in The Golden Child. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.160 Wait, I don't think I I don't remember this at all. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:08.680 What is this? 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.679 It's like either The Golden Child or Big Trouble in 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.080 Little China. I have Big Trouble Little China. I watched like, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.320 yeah that I that was Goodies for me. I watched 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.280 that movie like hmm weekly. But yeah, Golden chowd is 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.240 Eddie Murphy. It's like a weird fantasy movie about him, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:28.160 like shepherding mystical avatar of some kind back to Nepal 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.280 I think or something. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:29.640 I don't know. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.919 It's just got this crazy. It doesn't make any sense. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.000 It's not a good movie. It's just funny, like it's 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.200 one of those things I just had laying around on VHS. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.960 I have never even seen this movie before. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.440 People really people don't really talk about it. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.840 They don't want you to know about it. Anyway. We'll 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.040 get ready because we're gonna tell you all about Steven 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.840 Spielberg's secret role as the unofficial co director, the authentic 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.680 blood and skulls use for props, and the real life 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.600 shipwreck that inspired the plot. We've also got the crazy 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.519 connections between the goonies Gremlins, back to the future in 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.480 James Bond, plus Sloth's nightmarish makeup prosthetics that nearly electrocuted him. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.760 There's the on set few between Corey Felban and Martha Plimpton, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.959 the prank war between the Fortelli brothers, the time Michael 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.960 Jackson called Sean Aston, and the lost subplot involving escaped gorillas. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.960 You'll learn how about of chicken pox almost cheated us 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.440 out of Jeff Cohen's hilarious performance as Chunk, how the 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.120 production crew built and destroyed a full size pirate ship, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.560 and how Alice Cooper crashed the epic cast party. So, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.200 without further ado, here is everything you didn't know about 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:44.760 The Goonies. Wow, we're starting this with a section that 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:51.600 I have subheaded childhood sads. It's like this in Dad Issues. Yep, yep, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.920 both coming together very often with Steven Spielberg. Like so 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.120 many great things in this world, The Goonies was conceived 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.960 by Steven Spielberg, who acted as execus, a producer, and 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.320 as will find out, sort of a secret code director 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.240 because he's Steven Spielberg and just couldn't help himself. So 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.520 Spielberg was inspired by two things, the first being his childhood. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.360 Again because he's Steven Spielberg. He said that the idea 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.200 of the Goonies came from a group of kids he 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.120 knew as a boy in school. And Spielberg had a 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.039 tough time in school because he struggled with undiagnosed dyslexia, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.040 and as a result, he learned to read a few 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.200 years later than other kids in his class, and he 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.840 was bullied mercilessly because of it. He described himself as 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.960 being a nerd and an outsider growing up. Quote like 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.840 the kid that played clarinet in the band and orchestra, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.039 which I did, which I personally take offense to because 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.480 I do as well. And I recently went out of 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.200 my way to tell that to a friend the other day, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.880 And now I'm wondering if I shouldn't have. I didn't 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.520 know that the clarinet was that loaded of a band instrument. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.600 Do you know that you can hear Spielberg playing clarinet 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.839 on the Jaws soundtrack? No, it's when there's like a 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.720 school marching band coming by, and apparently they couldn't get 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:58.440 like one of these. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.520 I guess they either either. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.440 Williams did it as a favor for him, or they 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.239 couldn't find like an actual orchestra musician to playly enough 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.160 to sound like a high school clarinet player, that they 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.960 just got Spielberg to do it. But you can see 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.640 him playing clarinet on there's photos of him playing clarinet 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.760 on the set of on the set of Jaws. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:21.400 Really cute, that's adorable. Yeah, But he was also bullied 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.760 in his town as a kid because he's one of 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.000 the only Jewish families in I think the neighborhood he 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.000 was growing up in Arizona, which led him to be 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.240 mocked and even beaten a little later in high school, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.000 and Spielberg apparently got revenge on his bullies one night 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.920 by sneaking out and smearing peanut butter on their windows. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.719 The fifties ladies and gentlemen anyway, So during this rough 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.560 period in Spielberg's youth, he was embraced by a gang 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.640 of outsiders who sort of took them under their wing 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.679 and made him feel included and for a time somewhat normal. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.280 This was, at its heart, the genesis of the Goonies, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.400 this gang of inclusive outsiders who go off in search 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.680 of a legendary seventeenth century pirates treasure. As I said, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.240 it's sort of an Indiana Jones adventure written by S. C. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.400 Hinton for the legend of One Eyed Willie and his 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.680 shipped The Inferno. Spielberg was inspired by the wreck of 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.880 the Santa Cristo de Burgos, which was a Spanish galleon 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.200 that set sail from the Philippines to Mexico in sixteen 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.240 ninety three but never made it to its destination. It 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.320 vanished on its journey, taking with it a precious cargo 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:30.080 of porcelain, silk and bees wax. Something about bees not 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.120 being indigenous to certain parts of the world. I don't know. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:39.479 Beeswax hot commodity in the sixteen hundreds, So bizarrely, this 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.560 Spanish galleon was thought to be shipwrecked off the coast 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.000 of Astoria, Oregon, which is a long way off from Mexico. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.640 I guess the trade route would take it down the 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.160 coast of northern California, but they must have went off 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.919 course somewhere to end up in Oregon. Indigenous tribes in 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.960 what's now known as Oregon passed down stories about this 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.160 galleon throughout the generations, calling the bees wax wreck because 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.880 of these blocks of beeswax that would wash ashore from it, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.200 as well as bits of blue and white porcelain and 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.600 bits of wood we'd get tossed up on the rocks 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.720 or buried in the sound every now and then, And 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.240 this led to this whole run on the area by 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.960 treasure hunters in the late nineteenth century, not long after 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.760 the gold Rush. And so these reports in this area 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.240 about this being this lost pirate ship, right, it wasn't 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.640 a pirate ship, right, but this lost Spanish galleon helped 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.800 inspire Spielberg to create the One Eyed Willie plot of 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.040 the Goodies. And for years this wreck was basically thought 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.240 just to be like a local legend. But then in 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.480 June twenty twenty two, just earlier this year, National Geographic 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.840 confirmed that they found what was left of the Santa 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.720 Cristo de Burgos. Found a few dozen timbers, which is 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.160 extremely rare for a century's old ship and waters, and 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.320 I think they found more peace wax, which is good 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.160 that the world needs. So it was a happy ending there. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.560 First you get the money, then you get the bees wax. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.480 Then you got the tower. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.000 Yeah, there's a famous British warship that's near the hell Gate, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.440 which is that super cool name for the like stretch 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.360 of water between Randall's Island and Astoria and New York. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.240 And uh, something like two to four million dollars in 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:13.280 gold down there. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.120 Did they get it? 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.720 I there's like a whole there's a whole thing about 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.320 treasure hunters trying to find it. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.440 But no, I think they blew it up because they would. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.040 This is I mean, this is maybe a little too 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.640 NYC granular history, but this place was so treacherous that 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.920 at one point the US Army Corps of Engineers detonated. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.760 Uh like they just tried to blow it up, essentially 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.200 to like blow up a bunch of the rocks in 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.400 a crucial area too, to kind of change the flow 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.319 of water. So they maybe they probably blew this ship up. Anyway, 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.520 it's supposed to also be super haunted. Uh, well, I 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.240 imagine that all shipwrecks. Well there's a bunch of there 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.080 are a bunch of like prisoners of war and I 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.679 think slaves on this particular ship. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.959 So oh yeah, so extra haunted. All shipwrecks are haunted. Yeah, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:00.800 extra haunted. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.600 There was a great hang on there's a great I 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.280 forget the name of this ship. There was a great 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.040 quote the hussar. Oh yeah, oh you. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.640 Know the husser. Well, go go, go go. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.760 In eighteen seventy six, the USR recorps of engineers blew 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.240 fifty six thousand pounds or twenty five tons of dynamite 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.080 to try and to try and blow that up and 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.079 failed or succeeded. I don't know what the metric of success. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.280 They are there. That was what they're gonna do for 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.040 the Titanic. They were going to try to set off 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.040 before they realized it was like two and a half 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.800 miles down. They were going to try to set off 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.080 explosives that were going to try to dis lodge it 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.600 and bring it to the surface or fill it with 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:39.560 ping pong balls. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.400 Oh yes, I remember the ping pong ball's bit. Yeah, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.040 I guess. In twenty thirteen they found uh, okay, so 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.319 they found a cannon from it at least, and they 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.480 were cleaning this cannon and they found out it was 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:55.920 loaded and still had nearly two pounds of gunpowder in it, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:01.640 which is like, oh my god. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.400 Smoke break as they're cleaning this thing. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.760 Yeah, you have like you're like your your nice docile 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.080 job as a as a preservationist and you find a 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.640 fully loaded active cannon. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.079 That's a huzzer. Yeah. Wow. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.199 Anyway, getting back on track, speaking of old wooden ships. Uh, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:26.200 Spooberg hired screenwriter Christopher Columbus. Two we did there, Yeah, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.880 ties back, ties back together. Columbus had just written nineteen 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.600 eighty four's Gremlins, which is a personal favorite of mine, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.600 and he would obviously go on to direct Home Alone, 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:45.360 Missus Doubtfire, the first two Harry Potter movies by Centennial Man. Ooh, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.079 this is this thing on? 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.719 Uh. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.560 He brought his own ideas to the story, though he 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.920 grew up in Ohio, where he spent a lot of 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.600 his youth exploring the abandoned coal mines, not an activity 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:57.640 I can recommend. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.760 This show does not condone pencil. I feel like that's. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:09.160 Yeah, I sure a lot of speaking of haunted places. Yeah, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.480 I don't know. I guess instead of the docks, his 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.840 pitch was to have them all be in coal mines. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.319 I have a question for you, God, I had always 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.800 heard it as the boonies or the boone docks. I 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.559 think the goonies is the phrase I had never heard 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.679 unless it was in the context of this movie. Have 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.000 you heard that? Nope? 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.280 So boondocks. Oh this is interesting. This is this here, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.720 this will interest you. Boon Docks comes from the word 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:42.280 in Tagalog bundock for mountain. It was adapted by American 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.760 soldiers stationed in the Philippines and then readopted in the 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.880 early twentieth century, and then picked up again in World 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:54.240 War Two. So that's boondocks goon. Oh boy, I thought 0:11:54.280 --> 0:12:01.280 it was going to get racist. Oh it's early May. Yeah, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:06.040 goony goon could be made up. Etymology Online traces it 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.520 to Harper's in December of twenty one, possibly originating from 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.800 sailor slang referring to Albatross's or other big clumsy birds. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.640 But I guess yeah, Spielberg was probably like, you know what, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.760 coal mines not especially cinematic. What about a boat? Just 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:23.880 think about a boat, plus. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.440 Trying to imagine lighting all that. Oh yeah, anyway, there 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.400 are a lot of rewrites on this movie. I didn't 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.599 find anyone else credited. Did you find anyone who's like 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.800 a script doctor on this or it was just they 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.680 just kept sending it back to Chrystalmas. Yeah, it's like 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.920 Becker Fagan just be like, Nope, not it, that's not it. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.240 So yeah, I guess much like Xana do a recent episode. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.760 I guess the actors didn't get pages for their scenes 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.040 until right before they were about to shoot, which sounds 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:50.840 nerve wracking. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.800 And they're all kids too. Yeah, it's resilient, they'll bounce back. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:55.439 It's fine. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.000 Yeah, I guess, like they didn't even know what was 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.960 happening to Chunk. They had no idea what his plot 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.199 line was. They were just like, hey, he gets separated 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.679 at some point, we haven't seen him for. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.520 A couple of weeks. Does kill off Chunky? 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.040 So I guess we mentioned Chris Columbus also at the 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.600 script of Gremlins, And so there's a reference in Goonie's 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.760 Two Gremlins. You said that this presupposes then that they 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.640 take place in the same shared cinematic universe. So when 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.280 Chunk calls the cops, they nod to this habit he 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.440 had of prank calls. The officer reminds him of the 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.680 time when he called with a story about little green 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.520 creatures that multiply when you pour water on them. Gremlins. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.600 That movie was also executive produced by Spielbergen features a 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.120 young Corey Feldman, who will get to And there's another connection. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.920 Did you know that the town in Gremlins, which is 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.160 Kingston Falls, is shot on the same soundstage as Back 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.840 to the Future the set for Mill Valley? 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.960 What the universal backlot? Wow? Courts square my god Well. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.040 On the topic of Back to the Futures, internet sleuths 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.160 have discovered an interesting connection between The Goonies and Back 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.160 to the Future My favorite movie. Appropriately enough, it all 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.200 has to do with time. There's a wall calendar seen 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.880 ten minutes into The Goonies that shows that it's October 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.280 nineteen eighty five, and there's also a newspaper front page 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.880 that's seen around the forty three minute mark that's dated 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.239 October twenty fourth, nineteen eighty five, which was a Thursday, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.640 And at one point in the movie, mouth says that 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.800 it's Saturday, two days later, which means that the whole 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.400 movie takes place on October twenty sixth, nineteen eighty five. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.440 This is the exact day that Marty McFly takes the 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.640 DeLorean back in time to nineteen fifty five. And considering 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.240 Spielberg was involved with Back to the Future two, I 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.040 don't think there's any way that could be an accident. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:43.920 This sets the stage for and verbal contract, a movie 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:48.480 in which Marty McFly meets the Goonies, meets the Gremlins, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:53.400 meets the Flintstones, meets the Jetsons in Viva Rock Vegas. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:02.680 And the Flintstones Kids with the WWE And this answers Yeah, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.880 on the Rockets, Ladies and Gentlemen, the Aristocrats. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.160 We do so much uncredited development work on the show, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.720 like come on, we're just spinning. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:22.480 Gold Man well, getting back to Corey Feldman, as all 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.880 things must do. He apparently goes way back with Spielberg. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.800 He talks about going to visit him on the set 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.280 of Poultrygeist, which Spielberg wrote and, depending on who you believe, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.440 may have covertly directed. Feldman claims that he was originally 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.680 cast in et as Elliott's best friends, but the roles 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:43.800 written out sure. Feldman says that Spielberg felt so bad 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.600 about this that he promised to put him in his 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.320 next project that he was working on, which was Gremlin's. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.240 Considering this is Corey Feldman, I'm inclined to call bs 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.960 on this, but Spielberg does have a history of doing this. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.120 When he was casting for Hook, he really liked this 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.400 one kid, but didn't cast them, but to me put 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.960 him in his next movie, which was Jurassic Park, and 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.360 that was the little boy in that Joseph Mazzella, So 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.040 he does have a track record of doing that. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.320 Later went on to play Queen. Bassist John Deacon made 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:11.880 me rasty. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.440 I didn't know that until this morning, and I almost 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.240 texted you about it. That blew my mind. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.400 Loved John Deacon less so that movie. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.760 Yes, So Gremlins led to Corey Feldman's evolvement in Goonies, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.200 but he still had to audition. I guess Bilberg was 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.760 originally slated to direct the Goonies, but then he dropped 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.520 out and director Richard Donner took over, which we'll talk 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.640 more about in a little bit. So Corey Felban lost 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.920 his favorite status and had to go back to auditioning. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.440 So he goes to the audition and he meets another 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.600 young kid in the waiting room who's also there to 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.760 audition to play the character of Mouth, and that was 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.240 Corey Hame and they would famously be joined at the 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.160 hip throughout the eighties and early nineties, becoming best friends 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.280 and starring together in The Lost Boys and apparently six 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.720 other movies together, Too Sweetly. Feldman said that after Ham's 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.800 death in twenty ten, one of the first people to 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.560 call him the check on him was his Goonies co 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:08.800 star Shaan Astone. Like the sweetest the goodest boy, but 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.040 as you can imagine, Feldman kind of the opposite of 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.560 the goodest boy. You can sometimes get on the rest 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.480 of the cast nerves. He was basically his character in 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.480 the movie. He and Martha Plimpton in particular, had kind 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.400 of a tempestuous relationship, sort of a big sister little 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.520 brother relationship. She recalls flipping out on him one day. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.960 I was sitting at my typewriter doing my homework and 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.399 he came over and started annoying me. I got up 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.240 from the typewriter and got him on the floor and 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.679 started smashing his hand on it, shouting, shut up, shut up, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.960 shut up. I think this was I think she tells 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.359 the story like during some kind of Goonies event, like 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.760 to his face, So I think they're okay now. When 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.040 Feldman was a guest on Steve O's wild Ride podcast 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.600 Friend of the Pod Stevo, he said that he was 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.120 only paid forty dollars for six months work on the Goonies, 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.760 which I find weird for a Spielberg production. Sure, maybe 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.600 that's just what his parents told him here a Yeah, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.600 he emancipated himself, I think not long after. But yeah, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.080 Feldman remains inordinately proud of Goony's, calling it the Willie 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.560 Walker of our generation. I don't know if I get 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.920 the analogy, but sure, yeah, I. 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.480 Mean poor Corey, yeah kid who truly got cheered up 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.760 and spit out by the entertainment industry. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:32.720 Yeah. Yeah, this leads us somewhat perfectly into the Michael 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.080 Jackson corner. Yes, there's a line in the movie where 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.040 Chunk talks about, you know, some made up story about 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.760 Michael Jackson coming over to his house to use the bathroom, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.880 which is ironic because Corey Feldman had a burgeoning friendship 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.639 with Michael Jackson around this time. Is Director Richard Donner 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.199 and Steven Spielberg apparently used the Jacksons as something of 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.880 a carrot during the production. They sent the young cast 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.160 to see the Jackson's Victory Reunion tour at Dodger Stadium 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.400 during pre production. This a treat, And I guess when 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.760 they were filming the pipe scene, you know, the scene 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.040 where they're all banging on the pipes and try to signal, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.760 you know, that they need help to the people in town. Feldman, 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.600 he didn't have the passion that director Richard Donner wanted. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.359 So Donner told him a little surprised that he was 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.480 going to tell him later. He told him, Michael Jackson's 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.320 coming to visit the set tomorrow, you know. And then 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.960 they went to shoot the scene again, and Corey's all 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.440 amped up because his hero is about to visit the set. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.280 And I think it's when he's the scene when he's 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:33.480 screaming the line reverse pressure. Yeah, it's interesting, Donna, really, Uh, 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.080 we'll talk about this later. That's some really unique ways 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.400 of trying to get good performances out of these kids, 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.480 kind of like Kubrick doing the Shining when he had 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.000 this cole separate plot that he made up to tell 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.480 the little boy he was playing Danny, so that he 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.800 didn't traumatize them by telling him the real plot. I 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.600 don't know. I like Richard Donner's approach here. Sure enough, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.040 Michael did come onto the set. There's amazing pictures of 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.000 him on One Eyed Billy's pirate ship with his arm 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.560 around Chunk, which which is kind of funny because it 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.639 validated chunks bs story from earlier on the plot about 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.720 hanging with Michael Jackson. So Corey Felbrian was close friends 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.840 with Michael and the two lady became estranged for reasons 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:18.119 that are murky. But uh, well, actually, you I believe 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:19.159 have found. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.240 Something desperately hope is true. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.080 Yeah, what's that? Well, Corey felban and Michael Jackson fall out. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.720 One of the reasons that I've read cited was that 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.639 Michael Jackson was afraid of how Corey Felbman was going 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.959 to talk to him about talk about him in one 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.359 of his books that he'd written, and backed off accordingly. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:40.080 But. 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.520 Feldman the whole you have to we have to talk 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280 about nine to eleven when we talk about Corey Feldman 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.639 and Michael Jackson. I don't know if people know this, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:54.520 but apparently Michael Jackson drove Marlon Brando, Elizabeth Taylor, and 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.440 Liza Minelli out of New York on nine to eleven. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.879 There was a like a made for TV movie with 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:02.560