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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Too Much Information, the show that gives

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Speaker 2: we're through with it. And I'm Alex Heigel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and today we are talking about the Goonies. Yes,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of the eighties. We've had

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Speaker 1: several requests for this one, which is really great. So

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Speaker 1: nice to know that you're as excited about these as

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Speaker 1: we are. Quick PSA. Feel free to reach out with

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Speaker 1: love to hear from you. But Goonies is a special

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Speaker 1: one because this was one of those movies that I'd

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Speaker 1: watch on repeat, really almost every day as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I loved it so much. I have nothing especially enlightening

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Speaker 1: to say about it. I just think it's a wonderful movie. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it's Junior Indiana Jones, which makes sense considering it came

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Speaker 1: from the mind of Steven Spielberg. I personally love gang

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Speaker 1: movies like this, and The Sandlot definitely gave me unrealistic

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Speaker 1: expectations about like friendship goals and the Beatles too. I

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Speaker 1: guess you know, Sandlot, Goonies, Beatles, all great gangs. I

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Speaker 1: was also really obsessed with shipwrecks as a kid, so

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Speaker 1: he sent me into like my family basement in search

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Speaker 1: of something akin to the treasure map that sets this

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Speaker 1: plot in motion. Hock. We talked a little bit about

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Speaker 1: this earlier. What are your thoughts on this movie?

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Speaker 2: I don't have love for it the same way you do,

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Speaker 2: but it's great. I don't know what you're gonna do

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Speaker 2: on the Coonies. It's incredible, I mean, inspiring on all cylinders.

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Speaker 2: It's Richard Donner and Steven Spielberg. It's like, even if

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Speaker 2: it didn't have the amazing cast that it had and

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Speaker 2: the sort of rough hewn charm, it would have still

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Speaker 2: been a great movie just by virtue of those guys

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Speaker 2: knew how to make movies. Yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: mean we talked a little bit about this when we

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Speaker 2: were first pitching this. But like the eighties, like fan

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Speaker 2: to see movie that I watched more was Eddie Murphy

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Speaker 2: starring in The Golden Child.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I don't think I I don't remember this at all.

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Speaker 1: What is this?

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Speaker 2: It's like either The Golden Child or Big Trouble in

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Speaker 2: Little China. I have Big Trouble Little China. I watched like,

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Speaker 2: yeah that I that was Goodies for me. I watched

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Speaker 2: that movie like hmm weekly. But yeah, Golden chowd is

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Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy. It's like a weird fantasy movie about him,

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Speaker 2: like shepherding mystical avatar of some kind back to Nepal

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just got this crazy. It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good movie. It's just funny, like it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things I just had laying around on VHS.

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Speaker 1: I have never even seen this movie before.

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Speaker 2: People really people don't really talk about it.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to know about it. Anyway. We'll

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Speaker 1: get ready because we're gonna tell you all about Steven

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Speaker 1: Spielberg's secret role as the unofficial co director, the authentic

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Speaker 1: blood and skulls use for props, and the real life

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Speaker 1: shipwreck that inspired the plot. We've also got the crazy

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Speaker 1: connections between the goonies Gremlins, back to the future in

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Speaker 1: James Bond, plus Sloth's nightmarish makeup prosthetics that nearly electrocuted him.

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Speaker 1: There's the on set few between Corey Felban and Martha Plimpton,

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Speaker 1: the prank war between the Fortelli brothers, the time Michael

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Speaker 1: Jackson called Sean Aston, and the lost subplot involving escaped gorillas.

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Speaker 1: You'll learn how about of chicken pox almost cheated us

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Speaker 1: out of Jeff Cohen's hilarious performance as Chunk, how the

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Speaker 1: production crew built and destroyed a full size pirate ship,

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Speaker 1: and how Alice Cooper crashed the epic cast party. So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is everything you didn't know about

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Speaker 1: The Goonies. Wow, we're starting this with a section that

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Speaker 1: I have subheaded childhood sads. It's like this in Dad Issues. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: both coming together very often with Steven Spielberg. Like so

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Speaker 1: many great things in this world, The Goonies was conceived

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Speaker 1: Spielberg was inspired by two things, the first being his childhood.

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Speaker 1: Again because he's Steven Spielberg. He said that the idea

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Speaker 1: tough time in school because he struggled with undiagnosed dyslexia,

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Speaker 2: Do you know that you can hear Spielberg playing clarinet

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Speaker 2: on the Jaws soundtrack? No, it's when there's like a

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Speaker 2: Williams did it as a favor for him, or they

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Speaker 2: couldn't find like an actual orchestra musician to playly enough

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Speaker 2: him playing clarinet on there's photos of him playing clarinet

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Speaker 1: Really cute, that's adorable. Yeah, But he was also bullied

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Speaker 1: and Spielberg apparently got revenge on his bullies one night

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Speaker 1: The fifties ladies and gentlemen anyway, So during this rough

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Speaker 1: period in Spielberg's youth, he was embraced by a gang

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Speaker 1: This was, at its heart, the genesis of the Goonies,

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Speaker 1: this gang of inclusive outsiders who go off in search

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Speaker 1: it's sort of an Indiana Jones adventure written by S. C.

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Speaker 1: Hinton for the legend of One Eyed Willie and his

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Speaker 1: shipped The Inferno. Spielberg was inspired by the wreck of

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Speaker 1: the Santa Cristo de Burgos, which was a Spanish galleon

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Speaker 1: vanished on its journey, taking with it a precious cargo

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Speaker 1: of porcelain, silk and bees wax. Something about bees not

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Speaker 1: what's now known as Oregon passed down stories about this

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Speaker 1: of these blocks of beeswax that would wash ashore from it,

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Speaker 1: a pirate ship, right, but this lost Spanish galleon helped

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Speaker 1: the Goodies. And for years this wreck was basically thought

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Speaker 1: I think they found more peace wax, which is good

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Speaker 2: First you get the money, then you get the bees wax.

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Speaker 1: Then you got the tower.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a famous British warship that's near the hell Gate,

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Speaker 2: And uh, something like two to four million dollars in

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Speaker 1: Did they get it?

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Speaker 2: I there's like a whole there's a whole thing about

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Speaker 1: But no, I think they blew it up because they would.

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Speaker 2: This is I mean, this is maybe a little too

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to also be super haunted. Uh, well, I

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Speaker 2: imagine that all shipwrecks. Well there's a bunch of there

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Speaker 2: think slaves on this particular ship.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so extra haunted. All shipwrecks are haunted. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There was a great hang on there's a great I

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Speaker 2: forget the name of this ship. There was a great

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Speaker 2: quote the hussar. Oh yeah, oh you.

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Speaker 1: Know the husser. Well, go go, go go.

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Speaker 2: In eighteen seventy six, the USR recorps of engineers blew

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Speaker 1: They are there. That was what they're gonna do for

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Speaker 1: the Titanic. They were going to try to set off

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I remember the ping pong ball's bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess. In twenty thirteen they found uh, okay, so

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Speaker 2: they found a cannon from it at least, and they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have like you're like your your nice docile

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Speaker 1: That's a huzzer. Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, getting back on track, speaking of old wooden ships. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Spooberg hired screenwriter Christopher Columbus. Two we did there, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: ties back, ties back together. Columbus had just written nineteen

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Speaker 2: He brought his own ideas to the story, though he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a hell of a movie.

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Speaker 2: That's a great, great movie that that should be made.

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Speaker 1: Damn it. Here's a question. I mean no offense when

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Speaker 1: I say this. Do you think the car trip? Do

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Speaker 1: you think it was funny? Do I think it was funny? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Scream? Are you imagining? Imagine all those personalities in that car.

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Speaker 2: It's better if it was like a compact, if they

433
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Speaker 2: weren't in like like and they weren't a limited.

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Speaker 1: It was my driving.

435
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: God, that's a great question. I wonder who drove. I

436
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: don't know, man, Maybe they took turns. Liz McNeil wrote

437
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Speaker 2: about this at People.

438
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Speaker 1: Oh ah.

439
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: Tim Mendelssohn, a close friend and trustee of Elizabeth Taylor's estate,

440
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: shot down the rumors, saying there was never any road trip.

441
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth was in New York after nine to eleven. Wow,

442
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: that is wild. So, Corey Feldman, you wrote that distrack

443
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Speaker 2: megaloman for nothing? All right, Well, that was one of

444
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: our most bizarre at tensions we've ever been on this Well,

445
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Speaker 2: I mean.

446
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Speaker 1: Corey's become a passionate crusader against child sexual abuse, and

447
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: although he's repeatedly insisted that nothing inappropriate ever happened with

448
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Speaker 1: him and Michael, after seeing the explosive Leaving Neverland documentary

449
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, he said he no longer felt comfortable

450
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Speaker 1: defending Michael, and also admitted the possibility that Jackson could

451
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Speaker 1: have been grooming him as part of their friendship. So yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: but he's still dressing up as him.

453
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Speaker 2: As recently as twenty thirteen, he did a Michael Jackson

454
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Speaker 2: tribute performance in costume performing Billy Jean at a Limp

455
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Speaker 2: Biscuit show.

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00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Wow, Who's that okay? Michael took an active interest in

457
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: more than a young boy. Yeah, yeah, I was really

458
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Speaker 1: trying to find a way to say that didn't land

459
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Speaker 1: on that phrasing, But yeah, the movie star Sean Aston,

460
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Speaker 1: and he even called him at home. Sean Assen told

461
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Speaker 1: Vulture in twenty seventeen, I remember Michael Jackson once called

462
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Speaker 1: to see if I was feeling okay because I'd gone

463
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Speaker 1: home sick from the set of the Goonies. They shut

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Speaker 1: down production for a couple of days. I was so

465
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Speaker 1: excited he called, but he didn't leave his number, and

466
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Speaker 1: the first thing my mom said was, I don't understand

467
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: what does he want? Why is he calling you? And

468
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: Sean Aston's mom was Patty Duke, who was a child

469
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Speaker 1: actress in the sixties who'd starred in The Patty Duke

470
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Speaker 1: Show and won an Oscar for her portrayal of Helen

471
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Speaker 1: Keller in The marri Arcle Worker, and probably most relevant

472
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Speaker 1: to my tacky interests, starred as Neili O'Hara and Valley

473
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Speaker 1: of the Dolls. So yeah, she probably being a former

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Speaker 1: child star herself and having gone through it, she probably

475
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Speaker 1: was very wary of who's coming around her son. God uh.

476
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Sean Aston, yeah, his family history is really fascinating.

477
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: For years, no one had any idea whose father was,

478
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Speaker 2: including him and his mom. She had a relationship with

479
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Speaker 2: Dizzy Arnez Junior, who is Lucy and Ricky's son, but

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Speaker 2: she also had a relationship with a music journalist named

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Speaker 2: Michael Tell, and so when she got pregnant she didn't

482
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Speaker 2: know who the dad was. Michael Tell, this being the seventies,

483
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Speaker 2: offered to marry her to keep her out of the

484
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Speaker 2: tabloid sheets, but their marriage lasted thirteen days. God dam,

485
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Speaker 2: I didn't even make it too. That's got to be

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Speaker 2: a record. Yeah, that's like Pam Anderson and John Peters Territory.

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Speaker 1: Do you not remember that? No, John Peter's the producer,

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Speaker 1: the very same he was married to Pam Pam Anderson. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: they watched Pam Anderson. John Peters played by Bradley Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Gotta love tail so much it's gonna it's gonna kill me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How long were they married? Twelve days? They beat

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Speaker 1: them twelve days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is big page six. When I was working there,

494
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Speaker 2: claimed claimed. He claimed that he paid off all of

495
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Speaker 2: her debts. Wow, and then they at least but she

496
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: had almost two hundred grand in bills and no way

497
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Speaker 2: to pay it. And then he said, and this is

498
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Speaker 2: the thanks I get. Well, he's kind of a scumback,

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Speaker 2: so oh yeah, well, yes, anyway, thirteen day marriage. Jesus

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Speaker 2: Christ Sean was born in nineteen seventy one, so Patty's

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Speaker 2: marriage to Michael Tell was over by that point. A

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Speaker 2: year later, she married John Askedon, who played Gomez in

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Speaker 2: the Adams Family.

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Speaker 1: And was the dad on the original Freaky Friday.

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Speaker 2: And John asked in as Sean and gives him his last.

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Speaker 1: Name, Patty Duke and John Assen then split when Sean

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Speaker 1: was a teenager and Patty married another guy named Michael Pierce.

508
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: And this was the same year that Sean was filming

509
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Speaker 1: The Goonies. Patty told him that Desi Jr. Was his

510
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Speaker 1: real dad, and so he got really close with Desi Jr.

511
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Speaker 1: And then after ten years of believing this, he took

512
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Speaker 1: a blood test and learned that music journalist Michael Tell,

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Speaker 1: the guy of the Thirteen Day Marriage, was actually his dad.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, further evidence in Sean Aston just being the

515
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Speaker 2: goodest boy he has just he is a very zen

516
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Speaker 2: viewing it all, he says he's close to all four

517
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Speaker 2: of them, saying I can call any of them on

518
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Speaker 2: the phone anytime I want to, John, Desi, Mike or

519
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Papa Mike. My four dads.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: John Aston and Patty Duke were divorcing by the time

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Speaker 2: Goonies came out, but they held hands and cried through

523
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Speaker 2: their entire first viewing of it because they were so

524
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Speaker 2: proud of their little boy. Oh you know, as testified

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Speaker 2: by a long career in Hollywood, inherited his Oscar winning

526
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Speaker 2: mother's talent, and the scene where he tells the story

527
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Speaker 2: of One Eyed Willy is improvised, or at the very

528
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Speaker 2: least recalled from very short memory. Richard Donner wanted to

529
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Speaker 2: get a naturalistic performance read out of this scene, so

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Speaker 2: just before they shot this, Donner told him the story

531
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Speaker 2: of One Eyed Willy, and then when the cameras were

532
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: basically said, all right, just repeat that as best you

533
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: can while the cameras are rolling. So that's why it

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Speaker 2: kind of looks like, you know, he's like recalling it

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Speaker 2: in real time guesse. He was, Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love all the ways that Richard Donner got these

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Speaker 1: really natural performances out of these.

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Speaker 2: Kids, just despite hating them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that. Yeah. Uh, just a

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00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: quick pause here before we go any further. One Eyed Lilly.

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Speaker 1: That is a dirty joke, right, that's obvious. Okay, okay,

542
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: good fun check. There are really a disproportionate number of

543
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Speaker 1: kids with famous parents in this movie, or maybe it's

544
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Hollywood nepotism. I don't know. It just seems weird to me.

545
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: In addition to Sean Aston, there's Martha Plimpton, who's the

546
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Speaker 1: daughter of Keith Carradine and also distantly related to the

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Speaker 1: writer George Plimpton. In a way, aren't we all distantly

548
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Speaker 1: related to the writer George Plimpton. And of course you

549
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Speaker 1: have Josh Brolin, the son of noted handsome man actor

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Speaker 1: James Brown, who's still alive. I didn't realize this was

551
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Speaker 1: Josh Brolin's film debut, and he was very intense and eager.

552
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: In fact, he was a bit of a tryhard. He'd

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Speaker 1: been reading about the Stanislavsky method of acting, and he

554
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: later recalled the day that they were filming the scene

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Speaker 1: where the goonies slide through the underground water tunnels that

556
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Speaker 1: dump them out in the water around the pirate ship,

557
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: and Brolin later said I came up to Spielberg and

558
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Speaker 1: said that I wanted to climb the walls of the

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Speaker 1: tunnels and that it represented my mother's womb. For some

560
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: odd reason. Spielberg's response was, why don't you just act?

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Speaker 2: I would prefer if it were Richard Donner, and he

562
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: was just like, son of a bitch, I'm so sick

563
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Speaker 2: of these damn kids.

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Speaker 1: Uh. It's the shades of the Dustin Hoffman Lawrence Olivia

565
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: exchange during Marathon Man, when Dustin Hoffins like, oh, I

566
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Speaker 1: lost my motivation and Olivia is like, why don't you

567
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: try acting Darling? Yeah? Uh yeah. The directorial approaches on

568
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: this movie were a little less high concept than Stanislavsky.

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Speaker 1: I guess when director Richard Donner wanted more intensity, he

570
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Speaker 1: would just yell big eyes during a major scene where

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Speaker 1: it works every time. Uh. Josh Brolin is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite lines in this movie when he's yelling at

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Speaker 1: his younger brother Mikey, I'm gonna hate you so hard

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Speaker 1: when you wake up, your clothes are gonna be out

575
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Speaker 1: of style. Yeah, it's a great line. Yeah. There's a

576
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Speaker 1: funny little goof in the scene where the Goonies are

577
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Speaker 1: in the abandoned restaurant where the for Tellies are hiding out,

578
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Speaker 1: like just after Chunk breaks the water cooler. Sean Aston

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Speaker 1: aka Mikey calls Josh Brolin by his real name instead

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Speaker 1: of his character brand, but left that in for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Chunk, we have to talk about the kid

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Speaker 1: who played him, the amazing Jeff Cohen, truly the MVP

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Speaker 1: of this movie. He is so good yet it's I believe,

584
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: the only live action role he ever did, and we

585
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: very nearly didn't even get that. He got chicken pox

586
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: just before the shoot and was worried that they'd recast

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Speaker 1: the role if he told them about it, so he

588
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone and he showed up anyway, I'm sure,

589
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: leading to an outbreak of chicken pox on the setup,

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Speaker 1: and you can see it when he's doing the truffle

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00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: shuffle and lifting his shirt up. You can actually see

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Speaker 1: the spot still in his chest and stomach. I feel

593
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: really bad for this kid. He really hated doing the

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Speaker 1: truffle shuffle. Like that look of dismay you see on

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00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: his face when mouth makes him do it is like

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00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: authentic and to make him feel better, Director Richard Donner

597
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: actually cleared the set when he did it, which is

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00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I really feel bad for him.

599
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: Richard Donner really loved this kid. Jeff Cohen, who played Chunk.

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00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: In the scene where Chunk starts crying when the Fortellies

601
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: take his ice cream even spoon away, you could actually

602
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: hear donn Or giggling off screen if you listened to it.

603
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: I think Jeff Cohen, kid play Chunk, actually ad libbed

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: a lot of that. I know he ad libbed the

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00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: Hebrew prayer that he says when he first sees Jake

606
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Fortelly and the scene where he tells the story about

607
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: vomiting off a theater balcony. He's just an inspired performance.

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00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: The anecdote itself is a real life prank that Spielberg

609
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: did when he was growing up in Arizona. I don't

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00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: know much more about it beyond that, I'd love to

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: hear Spielberg explain how he fake vomited in the middle

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00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: of a theater. But yeah, this kid, Jeff Cohen is

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00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: just so damn good. He appeared on a very famous

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00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: British chat show called Wogan, just himself, not with the

615
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: rest of the cast of the movie, you know, right

616
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: after Goonies came out, and he's absolutely hysterical. Check it

617
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: out on YouTube. He's wearing this like bizarre duck hat

618
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: that has wings that randomly flaps, and like he handles

619
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: all sorts of like really terrible body shamy questions from

620
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: the host, which is incredible quick comebacks. It's really funny.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps because of all this flack about his weight, he

622
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: left acting soon after The Goonies. He slimmed down and

623
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: pursued a law degree, but his reputation as Chunk followed

624
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: him wherever he went. He ran for class president UC

625
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: Berkeley with the slogan chunk for President, which you know,

626
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: use what you got good publicity. It was also during

627
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: his college days that he performed the truffle shuffle for

628
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: the only time publicly. He later said, I was the

629
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: mic man at the football games, trying to pump the

630
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: crowd up. I wasn't certain everyone knew who I was.

631
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: I got up there to say go Bears, and this

632
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: frat guy in the back row started screaming, truck full

633
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: shof full. Then the last three rows started chanting it.

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00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, it caught on and ten thousand

635
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: students were cheering truff full shuff full guy. So I know,

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00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I know. But now he works as an entertainment lawyer

637
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: where he counts the kid who played Data among his

638
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: many clients. I didn't realize the kid who played Data

639
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: is also in everything everywhere, all.

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00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Why yeahund as well in Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When that movie came out, he did a bunch of

643
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Speaker 2: interviews where he was talking about how basically how disillusioned

644
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Speaker 2: he was with Hollywood after being in these two enormous

645
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Speaker 2: back to back movies and then just being unable to

646
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Speaker 2: find work because of the climate of Hollywood racism. You

647
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: also will remember this is the era of Long Duck

648
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Speaker 2: Dong being in sixteen Candles. So not only were there

649
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Speaker 2: not opportunities for people of Asian descent to be in movies,

650
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: but they Hollywood was just comfortable being openly racist towards them.

651
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, he had a really interesting career. I guess

652
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Speaker 2: he worked in Hong Kong for a while. He was

653
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: choreographing fight scenes. He was doing ad assistant directing work

654
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Speaker 2: for One car Y who's cultishly adored director. Oh yeah,

655
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: and everything everywhere all wants whips. So happy ending for

656
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Speaker 2: him after years of misery.

657
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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of offensive names in films, I guess Data's

658
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Speaker 1: real name in this movie is re Wang Dick. Oh boy,

659
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: come on, come on. You'll notice how everyone in this

660
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: movie is a nickname, Data, Chunk, Sloth, Brands, and their

661
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: real names are rarely ever mentioned. But we hear too

662
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: much information, have dug them up. And Mikey is Michael Walsh. Obviously,

663
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Speaker 1: Mouth is Clark Devereaux. Data. We just said, Richard Wang

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Speaker 1: Brand is Brandon Walsh, Chunk is Lawrence Cohen, Andy is

665
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Speaker 1: Andrea Teresa Carmichael's boring, and Stephan is Stephanie Steinbrenner and

666
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Speaker 1: sloth is Lotney for Telly, I remember his mom says

667
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Speaker 1: that a couple of times lotany that's a name, funny story.

668
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: The real life last names of all the Goonies end

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Speaker 1: in the letter and Aston, Brolin, Cohen, Felman, Green, Plimpton,

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Speaker 1: and Kwan. Wow. Do that check that out? You seem

671
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Speaker 1: genuinely wow. Okay, that's cool. That's called acting. Oh, I'm

672
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Speaker 1: glad you tried it.

673
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Speaker 2: As you meditate on that, We'll be right back with

674
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Speaker 2: more too much information after these messages.

675
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: But enough about the prep. Let's get into the shooting

676
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Speaker 1: of The Goonies. When Spielberg stepped away from directing, presumably

677
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: because he had his hands full with Indiana Jones and

678
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: all sorts of other stuff, they brought in director Richard Donner,

679
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: late of the Superman series starring Christopher Reeve, and he

680
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: went on the direct radio Flyer written by the guy

681
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: who wrote the Samlot And as we discussed in a

682
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: previous episode, the Goonies was shot almost entirely on location

683
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: in the town of Astoria, Oregon, though the tunnels and

684
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: the cave with one of Willie's pirate ship were shot

685
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: on sound stages in Burbank, California. The shoot went on

686
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: for five months and was done almost entirely sequentially, which

687
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: is very rare. Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, as you can imagine,

688
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: the Goonies is a huge boon for the tourist trade

689
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Speaker 1: in Astoria, a huge goon if you will. They celebrate

690
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Goonies Day, thank you. They celebrate Goony's Day on June seventh,

691
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: which was the day the film was released in nineteen

692
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Speaker 1: eighty five. The jail where the Fatellies make their escape

693
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Speaker 1: at the start of the movie is now a film museum,

694
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Speaker 1: appropriately enough, which opened on the twenty fifth anniversary of

695
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Speaker 1: The Goonies release in twenty ten, and contains memorabilia from

696
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Speaker 1: the movie. And this is weird. I didn't know where

697
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Speaker 1: else to put this. The field where the Fatellis restaurant

698
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: hideout is located was used again in the movie Kindergarden Cop.

699
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Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, and this is really funny. The

700
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Speaker 1: actor who played mister Walsh Mikey and Brand's dad, it's

701
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: a guy named Keith Walker. He was so inspired by

702
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Speaker 1: the scenery of Astoria that he wrote his one and

703
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: only screenplay Free Willie, Free Willy and Free Willy two

704
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: were both filmed in his Historia Electric Booglo. Yeah that

705
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Free Willy too, Secret of the Ooze, Willy Harder Ye

706
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: never gets a good day to Free Willie.

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Speaker 2: Free with Me with a Vengeance. Just all the die

708
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Speaker 2: hard ones are so funny. They filmed Black Stallion there

709
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Speaker 2: as well. There was this whole run of mid to

710
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Speaker 2: mid eighties to early nineties movies filmed in Astoria, Oregon.

711
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Speaker 2: I did not know that beautiful Astoria. Visit Astoria. Yeah,

712
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Speaker 2: I'll take that money now, Astoria, Oregon Town Council.

713
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: The Walsh family home became something of a local landmark,

714
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Speaker 1: known as the Goonies House. The nice lady who lived

715
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: there spent years giving tours to the fans who'd show

716
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Speaker 1: up on our doorstep from all over the world, sometimes

717
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: up to fifty people a day. But our dear producer

718
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Speaker 1: Mike Johns paid a visit to Astoria a few years

719
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: back and discovered that there's now a sign on the

720
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Speaker 1: property warning off trespassers and gooney fans. Apparently, during the

721
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Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of the Goonies in twenty fifteen, the home

722
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: was descended upon by an army of rowdy fans who

723
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Speaker 1: trampled the grounds, pete in the bushes, and generally wrecked

724
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Speaker 1: the place. This is why we can't have nice things.

725
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: That's what of OSMA. We got to give a shout

726
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: out to our beloved Mike. It's truly criminal that we

727
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: mention and our fictitious producer Jamie more than we do

728
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: our actual colleague and buddy. Mike is not only the

729
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: best friend this show has ever had, but also one

730
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: of the best friends anyone could ask for, makes a

731
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: sound way better than we deserve, and is an incredible musician.

732
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Speaker 1: Go to Mike's YouTube channel and bancamp meaning of everything.

733
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Speaker 1: My personal favorite is this gorgeous tribute to the recently

734
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Speaker 1: departed Loretta Lynn. This amazing shoegaze version of you ain't

735
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Speaker 1: woman enough. Mike. We love you, Sorry, we made you

736
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: listen to us talk about Steely Dan the other day

737
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: for ninety minutes.

738
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Speaker 2: We'll get a Jethro Toall episode in for you.

739
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Speaker 1: Yeah one, Yeah, these days.

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Speaker 2: We touched earlier on Steven Spielberg's habit of ghost directing

741
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: to the UH to the consternation of the actual directors.

742
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Speaker 2: I mean The famous one that I remember is Poltergeist

743
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: and Toby Hooper. Yeah, it's so talked about, especially in

744
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: the horror nerd community. But yeah, it got so bad

745
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Speaker 2: that I think Spielberg at one point had to take

746
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Speaker 2: out a Variety. It did take out a Variety ad

747
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: where he was like, I did not co direct this

748
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: movie because I think it was a whole DGA Director's

749
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Guild issue. But I mean, I don't know. It's it's

750
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Speaker 2: just funny that it is such a running theme with Spielberg.

751
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Speaker 2: In particular, one of Toby Hooper's collaborators, Mick Garris, said

752
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen that the same thing happened on the

753
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: set of Used Cars to Robert Zemeckis, to the point

754
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: where Kurt Russell told Spielberg I can take direction from

755
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Speaker 2: you or Bob, but not both, and Spielberg backed off,

756
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: which is amazing because I just, yeah, I mean, if

757
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: somebody's going to intimidate Steven Spielberg, it's probably going to

758
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: be eighties Kurt Russell.

759
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Speaker 1: Let's say Escape from New York era Russell.

760
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Richard Donner had known him since he was

761
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: a kid, which probably made all of this backseat directing

762
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: that much more galling. Spielberg got started on shows in

763
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Speaker 2: the early seventies like Marcus Welby and an episode of Colombo.

764
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Speaker 2: I want to see that, And so Donner was kind

765
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: of shepherding him through that. And so despite the fact

766
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: that Spielberg was basically only a producer and had a

767
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: story by credit on the actual log line of the film,

768
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: there are photos of him walking around the set with

769
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Speaker 2: a baseball hat reading head Gooney, and different cast members

770
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: have said that he was Oh, it's awful, it's awful.

771
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: Side note, I love the cottage industry of like film

772
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: crews making like I love film merchandise, like film production.

773
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Just just for the crew.

774
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Speaker 2: Did you ever hear about the battle that happened on

775
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: the set of Blade Runner?

776
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: No? They.

777
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: Ridley Scott gave this interview famously protracted shoot. Ridley Scott

778
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: gave this interview where he was talking about how much

779
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: he liked working with English crews better than American cruise

780
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: because he said English crews would just say yes, Governor

781
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: and do what he asked. And so all of the

782
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: American crewmen made a series of sarcastic t shirts that

783
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: just said yes Governor. On the back and warn.

784
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Speaker 1: All pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. But yeah, some

785
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: of the.

786
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: Goonies cast members have basically said that Spielberg was co

787
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: directing this thing. He was shooting the aforementioned pipe banging

788
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: underground pipe banging scene phrasing, and the scene at the

789
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Speaker 2: wishing well where Andy, the rich girl accidentally kisses little Mikey.

790
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Speaker 1: Makes so much sense. I mean, that just looks like

791
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: such a Spielberg scene. This is great, like still photo

792
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: of Mikey and Andy and silhouette and like they look

793
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: like cartoons. They look like Peter Pan and Tinkerbell or

794
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: something like it. All of his childhood stuff really just

795
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: has this kind I mean, no one that we went

796
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: on to do Hook a couple of years later, Like

797
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: there's always like this kind of a little magical element

798
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: with all the child stuff. I mean et obviously this

799
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Speaker 1: scene's great. Sean Aston, who was like thirteen, was super

800
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Speaker 1: pumped to kiss the woman playing Andy Carrie Green, who

801
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: was like seventeen. Carry Green, on the other hand, I

802
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: thought the whole thing was creepy and was worried she

803
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: traumatized this little kid. Yeah, well, seems to be doing fun.

804
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: Set askedonsidered okay, but yeah, this tough set for Donner.

805
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: One of his associates later said, I think it was

806
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: a difficult time because it's very difficult to have a

807
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: producer on the set who's also director, and I think

808
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Dick allowed Spielberg to shoot a lot of second unit stuff.

809
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: I'd imagine it wasn't the warmest or easiest of collaborations.

810
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: Promotions for this movie made a big deal about Spielberg

811
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Speaker 2: teaming up with Richard Donner, who was still a big

812
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: deal at the time, and there was even a teaser

813
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: trailer for The Goonies that took the letters from its

814
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: title sequence from the famous movies that Spielberg and Donner

815
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Speaker 2: had just been involved with, the g from Gremlins, the

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Speaker 2: O from The Omen, the O from Raiders of the

817
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Speaker 2: Lost arc and from Close Encounters, an I from Indiana Jones,

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Speaker 2: and the Temple of Doom E from E T and

819
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Speaker 2: the S from Superman, which doesn't have anything to do

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Speaker 2: with the movies, but it belongs in the annals of

821
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Speaker 2: great teaser trailers. Surely an annal sum.

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Speaker 1: The people pumped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's another thing that's brought into this, which

824
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: was a boatload of James Bond references. Dad's belt you'll notice,

825
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: which has his all of his gadgets has double seven

826
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Speaker 2: inscribed on it.

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Speaker 1: And he also in the scene when he's ziplining into

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Speaker 1: Mikey's house, he plays the James Bond theme on a

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Speaker 1: walkman or something. Spielberg threw that in there in exchange

830
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Speaker 1: for Bond producer Albert Cubby Broccoli using the Close Encounters

831
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Speaker 1: theme in nineteen seventy nine's Moonriker the Bond Movie.

832
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and funnily enough, four years after Goonies came out,

833
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: Robert Davey, one of the Fertellies, plays the villain not

834
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Speaker 2: the two thousands indie band who will get to later.

835
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Speaker 2: Davey played a villain in the Misbegotten, The red Headed

836
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Speaker 2: step child of the Bond franchise, Timothy Dalton's Licensed to Kill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the less Engling Dan Lendling ding

838
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Speaker 1: Ding Ding Ding that and like late Era Oh Broson,

839
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Speaker 1: Lately Era Broon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Joey Pants, he loved Joey ban and

841
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: I love it how much you love Joey Pants?

842
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, the American legend. This brings us to the

843
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: for Telly Brothers. Robert dave and Joey Pants. What's his

844
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: real name, Joe Pantaliano. Yes, apparently Robert Dave, who's a

845
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: trained opera singer. By the way, that's why he's singing

846
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Madam Butterfly all the time in the movie. He's supposed

847
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: to be in Rambo two or Rambo First Blood whatever

848
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: the second Rambow was.

849
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second one is confusingly titled First Blood Part two.

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00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, all right, first Blood Part two.

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Speaker 1: So he'd gotten in shape for it and was poised

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00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: to fly to the jungle to film. But I guess

853
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: there was a communication snaffoo when he accepted the Goonies

854
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: and they mistakenly recast his part, which made things weird

855
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: between him and his friend Sylvester Stallone for a while.

856
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe he took his frustration out on

857
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: his goony brother, Joey Pants. The two were engaged in

858
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: a fairly high stakes prank war throughout the shoot. At

859
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: one point, Robert Dove nailed Joey's dressing room door shut

860
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: I believe, with him inside, and Joey retaliated this isn't

861
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: as good by stealing his license plate, and I guess

862
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: the director sort of cottoned on to their antagonistic I

863
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know how playful it was, but a relationship, and

864
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: he put the sibling rivalry in the movie. Another instance

865
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: of Robert Dove's aggression coming through was the scene when

866
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: they're making the jail break and they shoot the gasoline,

867
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: which causes it to ignite. They're originally going to light

868
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: a dollar bill and try to throw it on the

869
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: gas line, but Dobby said that it would take too

870
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: long for this piece of paper to land just right,

871
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: just kind of like what happened in Greece when they

872
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: were trying to get Sandy's cigarette to land right in

873
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: her feet, right in front of Danny. So he came

874
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: up with the idea of just shooting it, which I

875
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: don't even know if that actually would cause gasoline to ignite,

876
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: but looks cool. Yeah, it looks really cool. Maybe the

877
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: bullet ricochet's off the ground, Maybe there's a little spark

878
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: that happens there. I don't know.

879
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: Ann Ramsey really slapped him in that scene, Robert Goddy.

880
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm glad we got Ann Ramsey in here,

881
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: because I didn't have any anything about her throw Mama

882
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: from the train. She's so scary. I think that's consciously

883
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: why I didn't. Yeah, I'm still prod of her. Could

884
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: she's still alive?

885
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: She could be, she could be right behind you. No,

886
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: she does in eighty eight? Uh yere after anyway, that

887
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: wasn't a coincidence?

888
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: Is it safe yet?

889
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: Okay, while we're running down the for Telly family, we

890
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: must get to the third for Telly brother, Latany aka Sloth,

891
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: played by former Oakland Raiders star John Matt Tussac, who

892
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: did two stints in the Super Bowl before trying his

893
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: hand at acting. He wears a Raider shirt in the movie,

894
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: which could be considered as just a pirate's joke but

895
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: actually a non to his old team, and then he

896
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: rips that shirt to reveal a Superman shirt under that,

897
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: which is at of course, a nod to Richard Donner,

898
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: who had directed The Superman. Spielberg loves his heastray as

899
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: a running theme that will develop into this I guess.

900
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: Before The Goodies was even filmed. A few years prior,

901
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: Methusac had placed ninth in World's Strongest Man competition, where

902
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: those damn beefy slabs of men like tow trucks and

903
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: expressed tires and he just looks like a it looks

904
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: like animal.

905
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Mountain, yeah, yes he does, or the mountain.

906
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: From Game of Thrones. Yes, just a large slab of

907
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: a man. The stunt double for Sloth is a guy

908
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: named Randall Winner.

909
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

910
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: And he says, he just said, I don't drink, so

911
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: I would escort John Matusac to all the bars so

912
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: I could get him home. I was the John Wrangler.

913
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: I'd drink Coca cola and make sure he didn't beat

914
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: up the place.

915
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: He said.

916
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Matusac was a big kid with very few limitations about

917
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: how he conducted himself. He was taking painkillers, and when

918
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: you put a gallon of wine on top of that,

919
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: you have controlling yourself. At times he was like a

920
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: lost child in a lot of ways. Oh but yeah.

921
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: A bit of a partier.

922
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: He died in eighty nine at the age of thirty

923
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: eight accidental prescription drug overdose. Had traces of cocaine in

924
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: his bloodstream. But still a hell of a life, and

925
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: his time in the goonies was checkered. Five hours of

926
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: makeup each day it took to get him into that

927
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: and one of these prosthetic eyes was manually operated by

928
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: remote control. So someone would start a count off camera

929
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: and he would blink his other eye at the appropriate

930
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: time to sync them up. And then for the scenes

931
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: in the pirate ship, all the kids were told him

932
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: not to get wet because this was an electrical rig,

933
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: and they promptly they promptly did any any way, which

934
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: prompted a shooting shutdown of a week. Sluck can't blink,

935
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: I chopping executive. I'm looking at the dailies and sloth

936
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: can clink. Shut it down, Doc Broland's pay. Oh, come

937
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 2: on you, kiddo, it's Feldman. Yeah, it would have been Felban.

938
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: Bring me that Feldman kid again. I'm gonna carve my

939
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: initials into his chest.

940
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

941
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: Matt Music had horrific backpain due who's used in the

942
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: NFL and had a tough time actually picking up chunk

943
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: and throwing the people around in the movie. Fun fact,

944
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: the candy bar he eats the movie was supposed to

945
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: be an almond Joy rather than a baby Ruth.

946
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Here's a fun fact. That's the trivia question I got

947
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: right on our episode of Food Court with Richard Blaze. Uh,

948
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: where I triumph over you for defending milk chocolate? Where

949
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: I handily defeated you in single combat. The novelization of

950
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: this movie, did you did you have this? No?

951
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Because I know you're a novelization guy.

952
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: A little bit. Not really, No, The only hate you.

953
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: The only reason I had movie novelizations were when I

954
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: was going to elementary school and I wish I could

955
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: be watching a movie, but I couldn't.

956
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: So I would be reading the novelization. Yeah, I was

957
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: a big novelization guy. I had a bunch of those.

958
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: I would always just get them at like the like

959
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: half priced bookstore when we were on vacation and just

960
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: read them. I'll tell you the novelization of the movie

961
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: Blade Blade. That book taught me how to curse as

962
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 2: a child. I had no idea. There were so many

963
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: permutations on the F word. Speaking of improv, do you

964
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: know Wesley Snipes at a table read improv the single

965
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: best line from that movie, which is some mothers always

966
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: trying to ice skate up hill, right before he kills

967
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: the bad guy, Wesley Snipes, blady gentlemen, the friend of

968
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: the pod Wesley Snipes.

969
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: Anyway.

970
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: The novelization of this movie delves deeper into Sloth's life,

971
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: revealing that after the events of the movie, Chunk's parents

972
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: adopt him and throw him a bar mitzvah that is adorable.

973
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Imagine Sloth reading the torah.

974
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm you're not gonna get ready to do that impression.

975
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: There was also a scene that was storyboarded but never

976
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: shot where Sloth flexes first steph Martha Plimpton's who swoons

977
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: over him, saying, Hunk City.

978
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: God.

979
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: The deleted scenes of this movie are so weird. We'll

980
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: get into Garriz.

981
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best ones. Yeah. Yeah.

982
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: The pirate movie that Sloth watches while he's chained up

983
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: in the basement is the nineteen thirty five Errol Flynn

984
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: swashbuckling classic Captain Blood. Dave Gruson, who did the score

985
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: to this, recycled some of the cues from those classic

986
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: movies for this film's score, specifically from Adventures of Don Juan,

987
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: which does star Erl Flynn. Yeah, and it's such a

988
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: cute turn for his character. You know, he's watching the

989
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: Errol Flynn movies and then he gets his h he

990
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: gets in agativity, Yes, while chained in a basement by

991
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: his family, who among us, and then he gets to

992
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: do this pirate ship. He gets a sliding at the end,

993
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: just like Errol Flynn speaking of the set ah the

994
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: Epic Showdown with the Fertelly family aboard one eyed Willie's

995
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: treasure laden pirate chip, the Inferno hidden in a massive cave.

996
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: This was one of the scenes that was filmed on

997
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 2: stage in California. Required nine hundred thousand gallons of water.

998
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: That sounds like a made up figure, But I don't. Yeah,

999
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: I mean bit rich considering California has been in like

1000
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: a thirty year drought.

1001
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: That's uh. When he how Old's goonies, Yeah, that's correlation.

1002
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: This was the same set where the water shoot slides

1003
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: were used, which dumps them into the water in the

1004
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: pirate cave. That was a fully functioning water slide courtesy

1005
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: of the Langford Surf Coaster Corporation. Anyway, anybody they do

1006
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: anything else whatever. Richard Donner later said that he and

1007
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: the crew would sneak off after a busy day of

1008
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: filming to ride those water slides, which is adorable, along

1009
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: with friend of the Pod Harrison Ford. Once stopped by

1010
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: the set and according to Corey Feldman, was climbing around

1011
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: the caves with all the kids.

1012
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: This is like the one moment of joy Richard Donner had,

1013
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: after all, after fourteen hour days of being tortured by

1014
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman, chose filling up to him coming up some

1015
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: weird talking about his thing.

1016
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard Donner just pours himself many martinis and rides

1017
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: the water water slide. That ship was real and had

1018
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: been built especially for the production over the course of

1019
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: only two and a half months.

1020
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: That's insane movie magic. Yeah, or one hundred five people.

1021
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: One hundred and five well, yeah, one hundred and five. Well,

1022
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: today they would have just done CGI.

1023
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: At least the prop people were union, so they would

1024
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: He's making okay money. Fun fact, folks, always remember when

1025
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: you're watching these CGI monstrosities that those are not union jobs,

1026
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: and that is why they are constantly being favored as

1027
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: opposed to practical effects, makeup and wardrobe. Anyway, all one

1028
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: hundred and five feet of that ship were designed to

1029
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: resemble Errol Flynn's ship from the film The Seahawk. Some

1030
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: of that rigging was recycled from the Pirates of the

1031
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: Caribbean ship at Disneyland, which was being renovated at the time.

1032
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: The sails on that ship required over seven thousand square

1033
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: feet of material. The largest one of them was sixty

1034
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: by thirty and you can spot R two D two

1035
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: scrolled away in there, because once again Spielberg loves his

1036
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: little Easter eggs.

1037
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: In order to get an authentically overwhelmed reaction from the cast,

1038
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: Richard Donner forbade the kids from seeing the ship before

1039
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: they shot the scene, and was constructed on another set

1040
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: and was hidden behind a very gigantic tarp I imagine.

1041
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: Donner later said, the day we were gonna film them

1042
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: first seeing it, we backed them all into the water

1043
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: and set the cameras on action. They knew what they

1044
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: were going to see, but they didn't know what it

1045
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: was going to look like. I love this. During some

1046
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Gooni's event with Richard Donner in two thousand and one,

1047
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman claimed that he snuck onto the ship while

1048
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: it was being built, and a visible annoyed Richard Donner

1049
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: just tried to shrug off these claims. For Donner felt

1050
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: like fifteen years later, Corey Selman still making his life

1051
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: a living hell being haunted by Corey Feldman, And for

1052
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: the most part, for these kids, seeing the ship for

1053
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: the first time as a really emotional moment, and Martha

1054
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: Plimpton later said she almost started to cry, and Sean

1055
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: Aston's mouth just dropped open, and he remembered thinking, the

1056
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: whole adventure we'd gone through had a happy ending. The ship.

1057
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, because they filmed it sequentially, filmed it order

1058
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: right exactly. I love it too much, but the whole

1059
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: thing sort of backfired. Josh Brolin was so shocked he

1060
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: apparently let an S bomb slip, which supposedly required the

1061
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: scene to be shot again. Maybe just the master shot.

1062
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure because I think some

1063
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: of those close ups of them reacting to it are

1064
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: authentic first, you know, first reactions. I've seen multiple explanations

1065
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: for this. I prefer to think that some of the

1066
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: close up reactions for that are real. The swearing in

1067
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: this movie is really funny for a PG movie. The

1068
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: S word and its variations are used twenty times throughout

1069
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: this movie, and in order to skirt a harsher rating,

1070
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: the profanity was strategically placed that it could be drowned

1071
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: out by background noise like police sirens or running water,

1072
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: or just the film's score during TV broadcasts, and it

1073
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: was also edited in a really specific way so that

1074
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: all you had to do was trim the first or

1075
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: last few seconds of a scene to lose the swear word,

1076
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: which is very clever. You may notice that in the

1077
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: scene where rocks are falling from the cave ceiling, Data screams,

1078
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: holy shit. He spelled it out because his mother made

1079
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: him promise not to use any bad words in the movie,

1080
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: which is adorable. This brings us to my favorite segment

1081
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: of this show. It belongs in a museum, probably the

1082
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: biggest instance of it belongs to the museum that we've

1083
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: ever had. The one hundred and five foot Inferno ship

1084
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: would have made an absolutely incredible tourist to try. Unfortunately,

1085
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: no one had the foresight or the money to make

1086
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: this reality. No one wanted this pirate ship after the shoot,

1087
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: so it was destroyed, that beautiful pirate ship. Oh my god,

1088
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: that breaks my heart. But yeah, right, I know, you

1089
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: think that we could just save it to use. I

1090
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: guess there aren't that many movies that require, you know,

1091
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: waten pirate ships. But you'd think that it would be

1092
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: handy to have around on a back lot somewhere. But yeah,

1093
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: I guess not. But there's another treasure from the Goonies

1094
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: which has gone missing. For a far more frustrating reason.

1095
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: The map to One Eyed Willie's Treasure Map is so badass.

1096
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: It comes to us courtesy of production designer J. Michael Reva,

1097
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: who I believe is also responsible for the ship as well.

1098
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: He put his sweat and blood into this map. Literally

1099
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the night before he was due to drop it off,

1100
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: he came to the conclusion that it looked too new.

1101
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be three hundred years old, so

1102
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: he set about trying to age it in his hotel room,

1103
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: pouring coffee onto it, you know that old trick, and

1104
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: even cutting his finger to drip his own blood around

1105
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: the edges, which I don't even I don't you know

1106
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: that the coffee or tea trick to age paper. I

1107
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: mean that not heard smear and blood around groper. Yeah, violation, Yeah, yeah,

1108
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: very much. So he later said, you do these crazy things.

1109
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: You get so into it, and it worked. You look

1110
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: at the map and it looks like an old map

1111
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: that's seen many years in battles, So that's uh gross map.

1112
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: The map was given to Sean Aston Mikey, who treasured

1113
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: it for many years until his mother, Patty Duke, came

1114
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: across it in his room and threw it away thinking

1115
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: it was an old scrap of paper that hurts a lot. Yeah,

1116
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: I know, spent almost cancels out valley of the dolls.

1117
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of OSHA violations, there is at least one yew

1118
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: that has been lovingly preserved for posterity, the skull of

1119
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: One Eyed Willie. Richard Dawner kept that on display and

1120
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: a stand in his home next to a model of

1121
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: the Inferno Pirate ship until his death last year. We

1122
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: don't know where it is right now, right.

1123
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would assume that it's got to be well

1124
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: accounted estate somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

1125
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: According to a website dedicated to the film Goonies, it

1126
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: was mentioned on the cast list that the skeleton of

1127
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: One Eyed Willie was played by.

1128
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: Real Well, well, you're bearing the lead here. It's a

1129
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: real skull.

1130
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: It's a real skull belonged supposedly to a guy named

1131
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: Raoul Wu who died from lead poisoning. I have been

1132
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: not been able to track down anymore on that. Why

1133
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: would you want a lead poisoned skull on the set

1134
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: of your children's movie?

1135
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Why would you want a real skull at all?

1136
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, an actor prepares there's a scene with

1137
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: storyboarding but never shot, where Mikey and Andy find one

1138
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: eyed Willie with daggers in the eye sockets and Andy

1139
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: has to pull them out.

1140
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of auction materials, Jordan, Yes, As a point of fact,

1141
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: the Lou Garrig baseball card that Mikey finds elm Chester

1142
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: Copperpott's body is worth two hundred and seventy five thousand

1143
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: dollars at auction in mint condition. And according to international

1144
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: maritime salvage law, rights to salvage a vessel and its

1145
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: contents go to the person or persons who first successfully

1146
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: brings something off the vessel in question. In this case,

1147
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: this is Mikey who brought the jewels off the ship,

1148
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: so legally the inferno and everything on it belongs to him,

1149
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: including one on Lilly's body.

1150
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: Surely, the first time we have ever cited international merit

1151
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: time law on.

1152
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: This is episode sixty three.

1153
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised it took that long too.

1154
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: On it if we were coming up on about probably

1155
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: roughly three straight days of us talking at each other,

1156
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: and I'm amazed it took that long for that to

1157
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: come up. Yeah, we're going to take a quick break

1158
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: but we'll be right back with more too much information

1159
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: in just a moment. And this brings us to the

1160
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: end of the movie. And you'll notice at the end

1161
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: of the movie, Data, when he gets to the beach

1162
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: talking to a group of reporters, says the octopus was

1163
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: very scary. I always thought this was just the kids

1164
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: telling tall tales, even though Data is probably the most

1165
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: trustworthy of the bunch. I don't know, maybe Mikey too.

1166
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: But this line actually refers to a deleted scene that

1167
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: involves Steph and Mouth, Martha Plimpton, and Corey Feldman getting

1168
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: attacked by an octopus after they try to flee one

1169
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: i'd Willy's ship. And since this is pre CGI, as

1170
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned, this all had to be practical effects, so

1171
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: they built a thirty two foot octopus. But unfortunately, the

1172
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: general consensus was that the octopus looked kind of goofy

1173
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: and basically too to be considered scary. For what was

1174
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: the climax of the movie, Sean asked them. Put it bluntly,

1175
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: the octopus always sucked. But the octopus featured prominently in

1176
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: the promo campaign for the movie. It appeared in trading

1177
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: cars that were made as toys. It also appeared in

1178
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: the video for the Cyndi Lapper song Goonies Are Good Enough,

1179
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a moment, And there was

1180
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: also a song on the soundtrack called eight Arms to

1181
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Hold You by the goon Squad, and the filmmakers were

1182
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: convinced this song was gonna be a huge hit, so

1183
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: they pressed it as a twelve inch dance single, but

1184
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: it sold miserably and is apparently one of the rarest

1185
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: most valuable Goony related items out there. So if you

1186
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: have a copy of eight Arms to Hold You by

1187
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: the goon Squad on twelve inch, hold on to it.

1188
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: Also a point of fact, eight Arms to Hold You

1189
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: is the working title of the Beatles second movie Help

1190
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Know That? So like a gang Bang scenario. No, it's

1191
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: one of the statue of the I believe fake Indian

1192
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: god Kayli with the eight arms coming off of it.

1193
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure that's a weird movie.

1194
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it is very much so. Yeah. So. There are

1195
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes from The Goonies that were cut

1196
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: from the theatrical release but reinstated for cable broadcasts, where

1197
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: scenes that have been deemed inappropriate for broadcasts were cut

1198
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: and they needed to make up the running time, so

1199
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: they put these previously deleted scenes back in, which is

1200
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: really interesting, kind of weird. I'm not totally sure if

1201
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: the octopus scene is one of them that made it

1202
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: onto the TV broadcasts. I've heard some accounts that it

1203
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: did make it onto TV airings, but there's another scene

1204
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: earlier in the movie that definitely did. It's when the

1205
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: Goonies stop at a convenience store early in their adventure.

1206
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: Mikey compares his treasure map to a modern map. Chunk

1207
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: buys junk food, and probably most crucially to the plot

1208
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: is the scene where the Goonies meet steph Andy and

1209
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: the rich bully Troy for the first time. I think

1210
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: Troy's dad is the one that's trying to destroy the

1211
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: Goonies home and make a golf course or something out

1212
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: of it. Troy threatens to use the treasure map as

1213
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: a rolling paper and light it up. Brand shows up

1214
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: to defend his little brother Mikey, and then it cuts

1215
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: the Brand riding his bike home when try pulls up

1216
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: alongside him in his Mustang and tries to run him

1217
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: off the road. Remember he holds onto his hand when

1218
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: he's on his bike and like runs him to the

1219
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: edge of the cliff and just like sends them all. Yeah, yeah,

1220
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty freaky. So that whole scene makes a lot

1221
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: more sense that they just had like a fight earlier

1222
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: on in the you know, in the day, because otherwise,

1223
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: just out of context, it seems like a pretty aggressive

1224
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: thing for somebody to do that we've not really seen

1225
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: in the movie before. That's to kill him for no reason.

1226
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: Now we must come to a segment we like to

1227
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: call monkey business. That's that's hey, that's I got nothing. Hey, hey, hey,

1228
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: they have a monkey. Yes, they're not monkeys, though garulas

1229
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: are apes of a bitch. We threw this whole conceit off.

1230
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, yeah, there was a whole subplot in

1231
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: The Goonies involving escaped gorillas that Spielberg insisted on being

1232
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: in there. I love this so much. There were a

1233
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: few scenes that were left on the cutting room floor.

1234
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: One of the goonies protested against the demolition of their neighborhood,

1235
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: and another word Data tries out a gadget called the Intimidator,

1236
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: which puffs air into his shirt to make him look muscular,

1237
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: not unlike a pufferfish, but the most bizarre, easily was

1238
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: this whole elaborate subplot involving two gorillas who'd escaped from

1239
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: a zoo. This was scripted, this was storyboard, and this

1240
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: was even shot. This is one of Spielberg's ideas, and

1241
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: he loved it so much he insisted on it, even

1242
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: going so far as directing the sequences himself, to the

1243
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: apparent chagrin of actual director Richard Donner. It begins when

1244
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: the goonies are underground, signaling for help by banging on

1245
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: the underground pipes. We've talked about the scene a few times.

1246
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: This sets off a chain of chaotic events in town,

1247
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: and one of them was going to be that these

1248
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: two gorillas, Bonzo and Bertha, gap from a local zoo,

1249
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: and then we're going to run am uck through the

1250
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: town for the rest of the movie, hijacking a golf

1251
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: cart and then later stealing Troy's red Mustang and embarking

1252
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: on a French Connection style car chase with stunt drivers.

1253
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: It was just gonna be this random element that would

1254
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: keep popping up through the rest of the movie, and

1255
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: Spielberg was so enthusiastic about the subplot that Donner was like,

1256
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, what about how did you direct it yourself?

1257
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: So he did. It's like really complex, probably very expensive

1258
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: series of scenes.

1259
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: I just found this thing from Willamette Week, which is

1260
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: I believe, an Oregon publication talking about the Ape Seed. Well,

1261
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: it's like an oral history of it filming in Astoria

1262
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: with a bunch of local residents. Quoted Dave Johnson, a

1263
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: retired Astoria Police Department officer, had this to say about

1264
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: the gorilla scene, which is hilarious. There were two gorillas

1265
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,959
Speaker 2: in a Mustang convertible. They wrecked a brand new car,

1266
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: but it was never part of the movie.

1267
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: There was a part. There was a part on the dock.

1268
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: It's like in the French Could when they actually crashed

1269
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: into a real car. He says.

1270
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: There is a part in the dock during the big

1271
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: car chase. They were supposed to come flying down the dock.

1272
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: One police car was supposed to go through the railing

1273
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: and landed a boat. Somebody screwed up and the jeep

1274
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: that they were driving a rental they had gotten in

1275
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 2: Portland that they weren't supposed to mess up. Someone mistimed

1276
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: it and the police car hit the back of it.

1277
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: The police car landed on the boat where it was

1278
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: supposed to go, Donner goes, somebody get me a car.

1279
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: I gotta go fire somebody. So the ape scene. Spielberg's

1280
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: insistence on this gorilla chase scene cost someone their job

1281
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: when a stunt involving a police car went awry.

1282
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: For those of us who've never seen Richard Donner, just

1283
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: what actor would you get to play him? How would

1284
01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: you summ up that that pissed off, exhausted energy. Yeah

1285
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: like that, I'm the idiot crash on the runway. Yeah, yeah,

1286
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: that's that seems about right. But this was all cut

1287
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: supposedly because Richard Donner reshot the ending of the movie,

1288
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: and Christopher Clumps's original script had the film end at

1289
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: Mikey's house, the Walsh House, where Rosalita, the maid would

1290
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: find the bag of jewels that Mikey had taken off

1291
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: the ship while doing the laundry, thus providing the family

1292
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: with the cash to save their house and save their neighborhood.

1293
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: And then the gorillas We're gonna show up, And then

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: the gorillas show up, and the shopping executive, Hey, the

1295
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: gorillas show up at the Walsh House as they're all celebrating,

1296
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: and then they're finally apprehended by the cops and taken

1297
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: back to the zoo. None of this has anything to

1298
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: do with the plot of the movie at all. Spielberg

1299
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: just loved it. But yeah, I just apes on the loose,

1300
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: I guess. But Richard Donner, he just felt that this

1301
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: scene at the house felt like such a small ending

1302
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: to such a you know, an epic movie. They just

1303
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: had an Errol Flynn's style swashbuckling fight on a pirate ship,

1304
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: and now they're in this kind of rundown house. But

1305
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: Donner wanted to be able to see the pirate ships

1306
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: sail away at the end of the movie, so we

1307
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: decided to reshoot the ending at in Cola State Park

1308
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: by Haystack Rock, that very distinctive rock formation, and you

1309
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: get that epic shot of one eyed Willie's pirate ships

1310
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: sailing away. Funnily enough, in the ending, some of the

1311
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: parents of the Goonies of their parents in real life.

1312
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: I think Chuck's parents are in that scene, and Richard

1313
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: Donner actually shows up as a cameo and an ATV.

1314
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: So there you go. You will be able to get

1315
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: to see if Donna. If you watch The Goonies so

1316
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: you got Donner, but there's no gorillas rolling into the ending.

1317
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: The official reason that this whole gorilla subplot was cut

1318
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: was because it lost its conclusion when they reshot the

1319
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: ending at the beach. I don't know if they just

1320
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: deemed it too expensive to get all those stunt drivers

1321
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: back or what you know, could have the gorillas just

1322
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: show up on the beach. I guess, but Dnner acxd it.

1323
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: I have a funny feeling he was just looking for

1324
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: an excuse to get rid of it.

1325
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: We just pan away and there's two gorillas like sit

1326
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: in there, arm in arm.

1327
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And these Spielberg directed gorilla sequences have never been

1328
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: seen in full. There have been a few behind the

1329
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: scenes photos that have surfaced in recent years, and a

1330
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: rough work print of part of one of the car

1331
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: chase scenes, but other than that, it remains in Spielberg's

1332
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: vault of special things. It's just the scene from Raiders.

1333
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: Now we must talk about my beloved Cindy Laupper and

1334
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 2: a song.

1335
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: Oh I love Cydey Lapper.

1336
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a whole sidebar and I didn't even

1337
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: get to write in here, but I'm going to talk

1338
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: about it.

1339
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: Which is the professional wrestling.

1340
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: Tie in Goonies Are Good Enough, the theme song to

1341
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: the Goonies. Cindy was asked by Spielberg directly and she

1342
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: agreed to do a twelve minute, two part music video

1343
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: for the song, which includes a cameo from Spuberg along

1344
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: with a who's who of professional wrestling. At the time,

1345
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 2: Sidney Lauper had such a connection to eighties wrestling culture

1346
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,919
Speaker 2: it rules. She met Captain Lou Albano, who a wrestling

1347
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: personality manager, on a plane from Puerto Rico, and when

1348
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: it came time to shoot the Girls Just Want to

1349
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: Have Fun video, she wanted to put him in there

1350
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: and this led to like a long standing association with it.

1351
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: She was basically invited onto to do WWF promotions. And

1352
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: I didn't know this, but because of that, and because

1353
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: she was such an MTV star, there was this whole

1354
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 2: synergy between MTV and professional wrestling. At the time, MTV

1355
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 2: broadcast the first live wrestling match on cable television, and

1356
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: at Cindy Lauper's behest, the first live professional wrestling match

1357
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: between women, Wow Yeah, and with Andy Kaufman. Sadly, sadly

1358
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: no anyway, Corey Feldman was a massive Cyndi Lapper fan,

1359
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: and he was super prompted that she was doing a

1360
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: song for this until he heard it, subsequently saying it

1361
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: was terrible, the worst song I've ever heard Cindy Lauper do,

1362
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: but it went to number one, even though she has

1363
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: also said it was not a particular favorite of hers.

1364
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: She didn't play it live for over twenty years. Eventually

1365
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: debuted and her True Colors tour in two thousand and seven.

1366
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: Apparently in her autobiography, she talks about a meeting she

1367
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: had with Steven Spielberg to discuss their ideas for the

1368
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: music video for this, and at one point she told

1369
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 2: him his ideas were not very creative, which ended the

1370
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: subsequently ended the meeting.

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she pushed to have the Bengals on the soundtrack.

1372
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: That was again at her behest and Oscar and Grammy

1373
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: winning composer Dave Gruson his original score for this was

1374
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: just not issued for very many years, but the cue

1375
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: that he wrote for Telly Chase has just popped up

1376
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different movie trailers, including Inner Space,

1377
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: the Steven Spielberg produced movie, so that for a while

1378
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: you could just hear that part of the score in

1379
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: movie trailers, which is so funny because it's kind of

1380
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: like how Clint Mansell and Kronos Quartet wrote this piece

1381
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: for rock Raem for a dream Ah which is called

1382
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: I Think lux E Turna and it just got this

1383
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: second life of its own.

1384
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: You would just see it. It was in like the

1385
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings trailer and like you would just

1386
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 2: see it get popped up, completely divorced of its context

1387
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: as like I just go to trailer music. I always

1388
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: just love that.

1389
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: That's so funny to me.

1390
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: Speaking the Fortellies speak of music.

1391
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for me, the best part of the Goonies

1392
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: musical legacy is that inspire the name for the mid

1393
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: two thousand Scottish rock band the Fortellies, the song Chelsea Dagger,

1394
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: that song whips and also whistle for the choir. It's

1395
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: a great song. Shout out to my friend Katie if

1396
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: she's listening. She loved that song. There's a lot of

1397
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: personal shout outs in this one. Yeah, this brings us

1398
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: to the rest, rest and the rest. Let's go to

1399
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: the box office stats. The Goonies was released in June

1400
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five and initially trailed behind Rambo Forest Blood

1401
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: Part two at the box office, which must have pissed

1402
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: Robert Dovey off to no end. That's the movie that

1403
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: he was supposed to be in. Also, it ultimately made

1404
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four million dollars on a nineteen

1405
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: million dollar budget, making it the ninth highest grossing movie

1406
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: of the year. Critics' responses were largely positive. Robert or Ebert,

1407
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I do know why we're

1408
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: going for him. He's Roger Ebert, but he had a

1409
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: great review. It's a fantastical story of buried pirate treasure,

1410
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: told with a slice of life approach that lets these

1411
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: kids use words Bogart didn't know in Casablanca. What a phrase? Oh.

1412
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: Over the years, various sequels and spinoffs have been proposed,

1413
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: including an idea for our Cartoon Network series that would

1414
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 1: have seen Corey Feldman reprize the role of Mouth. I

1415
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 1: think that one stayed on the on the old development

1416
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 1: slate of of all the characters to base the spinoff

1417
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: around all right. In two thousand and seven, a musical

1418
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: adaptation was proposed, but even though Spielberg and Donner discussed it,

1419
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: project went nowhere. Like a Broadway show that could have

1420
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: been cool, So okay cool quotes. In February twenty twenty,

1421
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: Sarah Wattson, the creator of the show The Bold Type,

1422
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: began work on a pilot drama series in which a

1423
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: woman helps film students create a shot for shot remake

1424
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: of The Goonies. I don't know anything more about that.

1425
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: That's fascinating to me. I like really really specific shows

1426
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: like that. It's a plot of b kind rewind. Oh,

1427
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: you're right, that's true video store employees.

1428
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: But yeah.

1429
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: In interviews for years, Sean Astins insisted that a Gooney

1430
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: sequel was an absolute certainty, just a question of when

1431
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: there's an IMDb page for Goonies two that slated for

1432
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, which is hell of a long way off.

1433
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: The possibility of a sequel began circulating sometime around the

1434
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: early two thousands, when and Gooney's director Richard Donner and

1435
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg were on board for a story, but Warner

1436
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: Brothers apparently wasn't interested in a sequel, despite the fact

1437
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: that many of the original stars had expressed interest in

1438
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: appearing in it. I mean, as much as I'm kind

1439
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: of opposed to doing later era sequels, of beloved movies.

1440
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: It seems like kind of a miss at least curious. Yeah, yeah,

1441
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: it's like not quite long enough for it to be

1442
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: one hundred percent definitely terrible if it was what sixteen

1443
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: years later, Like, I'm curious how that would have gone,

1444
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: but never came together, and I guess. Corey Felman and

1445
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: Shawn Aston later pitched their own sequel idea in apparently

1446
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: as late as twenty nineteen, but never came to fruition

1447
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: due to a combination of high budget requirements and the

1448
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: cast and crew's inability to come to a consensus about

1449
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: a story, and then Richard Donner's death in July twenty

1450
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: twenty one almost certainly put an end to the dream

1451
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: of a Goony sequel or a nightmare. Corey Felerman more

1452
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: or less said as much in August of this year

1453
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: that it's probably not going to happen, and he, for one,

1454
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: is sort of glad because sequels ruin everything.

1455
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, quantica that in April, saying I feel like, after

1456
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: Donner's passing, I'm kind of at peace with leaving that

1457
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: movie alone now, even though I want Gooney's to two

1458
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: to happen, I'm kind of at a place where I

1459
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: think it should just be the way it is.

1460
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: You shouldn't mess with it. Agreed.

1461
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: There's just a tremendous story that comes out of the

1462
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: end of this shoot, even.

1463
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: The perfect way to end. I love this.

1464
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: Poor Richard Donner, I mean, had to watch his former

1465
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: protege become a much larger director than him and possibly

1466
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: take over his shoot. He was stressed out constantly by

1467
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: dealing with children. His quote in the making of documentary is,

1468
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: I think the most unique thing about working with this

1469
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 2: many kids is that every night I'm contemplating suicide. It

1470
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: is the most difficult thing I've ever thought I was

1471
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: going to get into.

1472
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: Did you watch this clip? Like there's no humor in

1473
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: his face as he says this.

1474
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: But so by the time the shoot was over, Donner

1475
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: was just thrilled to get back. He couldn't wait to

1476
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: get back to his home in Maui and Hawaii and

1477
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: just relax without a bunch of children around. But Spielberg,

1478
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: that son of a bitch, wouldn't let this happen. For

1479
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 2: the last week of the shoot, Donner had noticed that

1480
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: the kids were acting a little cold, little standoffish towards him,

1481
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 2: and they had been shooting for five months for this,

1482
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: you know, so they'd become very close and this freaked

1483
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: him out a little bit, so he tries to put

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: it out of his mind, flies back to Maui, where

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01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: he runs into some neighbor who has this excuse to

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: keep him out of the house all day, Eron's or something.

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01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: And by the time he finally gets back to his house,

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: the entire cast of the Goonies, along with all of

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: their spouses and partners, are hanging out at his house,

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01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: having come directly from the airport, luggage and all. Spielberg

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: flew them all down there for a rap party barbecue,

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: and Donner's other neighbor, Alice Cooper, came by to party

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: as well.

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: There was a film crew on hand as well to

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01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: film all of this. Uh And according to the documentary

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: The Unauthorized Story of the Goonies, things got a little

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01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: too out of hand for this to be included on

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01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: the special features of a rated PGE movie. But it's

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01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: out there somewhere, folks. If you can, if you can

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 2: get it, mo.

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: You five bucks this time, will mo you? Well? To

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: close out, I'd like to read a section from another

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01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: deleted scene in this movie where Andy and Steph take

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: the sacred Gooney oath. Never made it in the movie,

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: but uh I personally said this oath before we started taping.

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: So I'm already a goony. But higel, if you'd be

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: so kind as a repeat after me and anyone else

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: listening at home, please feel free to follow along repeat

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: as well. I will never betray my goondock friends. I

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: will never betray my goondock friends. We will stick together

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01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: until the whole world ends. We will stick together until

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01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: the whole world ends, through heaven and hell and newular war,

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: through heaven and hell and nuclear war. Good pals like

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01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: us will stick like tar. Good POWs like us will

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: stick like tar. Doesn't rhyme, but okay, in the city

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01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: or the country, or the forest or the boonies.

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: In the city or the country, or the forest or

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01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: the boonies.

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01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: I am proudly declared a fellow gooney.

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01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 2: I am proudly declared a fellow gooney.

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01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: Congratulations side, congratulations to all of you at on. Well,

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01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Goonies never say die, so we'll just say until next time.

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01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: This has been too much information. My name is Jordan

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Runtalg and.

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01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Iigel and until that one last gooney weekend,

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01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: executive producers are Noel Brown and Jordan Runtalk. The supervising

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01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: producer is Mike Johns.

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: The show was researched, written, and hosted by Jordan run

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 2: Talk and Alex Higel.

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Speaker 1: With original music by Seth Applebaum and the Ghost Funk Orchestra.

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