1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: My step son is hospitalized and my family doesn't care. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Should I go no contact? Sam? 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Should it be go no contact? 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 3: I mean, if they don't care about your son, then maybe. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: You know I was. I had my hair appointment. That's 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: a red flag. I had my hair appointment and it 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: was important. Okay, do you actually have a hair appointment? Uh? 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: In this hypothetical world, I do? Do you have hair appointments? 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: And no, no, I don't. I went like a year 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: without cutting my hair, but now it ends. Now in 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: this hypothetical world, I'm getting taken care of my wit 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: ends and I can't be bothered about your step son. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Are you going no contact with me? 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: That's how good the hair looks, because I might forgive 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: you if it looks freaking amazing. 16 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know there's only one way to find out. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: Spill that d So. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: This actually comes from our slash Okop show. If you 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: want to submit your own story and have it read 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: like this, go to our slash Okop show. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: Or call four four zero five zero eight six five 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: six seven. But John tell me that juicy story. 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: So Buffalo cheddar Biscuit says the post was too long 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: for most am Ida whole pages. So I figured here 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: would be a good spot for some judgment, and you. 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Figured I'll give you that judgment. Oh yes. 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: This week has been a whirlwind of insanity, all of 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: which I wish was made up for a while. My 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: steps on twenty three mail has had some serious symptoms 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: that he finally got checked out, with results shared to 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: him earlier this week. Our family, me my husband, stepson's 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: biological mom, and the bio mom's partner, and my stepdaughter 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: rushed three states away, driving through the night to meet 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: at one of the country's top neurocare hospital. 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Which is what you should do if that ever happens, right, 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: So that is what like a good family does. 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing but green flags, which I think we need 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: some flights. 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Read. Oh we do, we do. 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: We gotta bring those up, we bring those up. I 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know, honestly, it seems like a green flag that 42 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: it does. These are green if it's not showing through. 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Our family rushed three states away, driving through the night 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: to me at one of the country's top neurocare hospitals, 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: where my step son was admitted and surgery was performed 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the very next day. Turns out he had hydrophallis caused 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: by a brain tumor that we now know is cancer. 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, they removed almost two leaders of spinal fluid 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: build up, and doctors confirmed that had he waited longer, 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: he might have passed away. 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: My family was scared out of our minds. No one 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: could sleep, pretty much walking the corridors like zombies. Yeah, 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I can imagine a little more background. I have gone 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: no contact with a large portion of the family. I 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: grew up with my full blood sisters, my mom, etc. 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I am low contact with my brother, but reached out 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: to let him know what's been going on before we 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: headed to the hospital, and also to give him updates 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: during the trip. I also reached out to one of 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: my sisters. She had asked me to send her a 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: recipe for a gift for my niece, and I messaged 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: saying that I couldn't participate something had come up. She 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: tried to push me to still send the recipe. 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Bro Well, she doesn't know yet. 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: She doesn't know yet, which is when I said I 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: had a family emergency and wasn't sure when I'd be 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: back in town, to which she never replied. 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Totally fair to not reply to. 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Totally fair that you know OPI's doing the most by 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: even responding, here, it's a crazy situation. Who cares about 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: your freaking recipe. About midway through the trip, I broke 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: down and I called my mom, who she was no 74 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: contact and we don't know why yet, we don't know why. 75 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: While I was trying to give updates, she insisted I 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: visit the famous Mormon temple in that city and walk 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the grounds. And I called the temple to get my 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: steps on on their prayer slash blessings list. 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: So so I imagine Opie is Mormon. 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: We're inferring that they that they are Mormon, could very 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: well could be. I shot the suggestions down very quickly, 82 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: and while my mother was arguing that I need to 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: do it for my own solace, I told her that 84 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna bother tracking down information while I can 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: barely function, only for the Mormons to use it to 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: show up either at our house or at the hospital, 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: and that we are not Mormon. 88 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Oh so Obi is not? Mom? Obi is not, but 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: maybe the mom is. Yeah, if she's not, that'd be 90 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: the weirdest. 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: I should check out the Mormon I mean, the Mormon 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: temples are pretty sick, that's true. 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: They do a good job. They do a good job. 94 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: She tried to argue, which is when I told her 95 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: to shut up and let me give you the updates 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: on my steps on his condition, I gave the bare bones, 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: at which point my mom started telling me I needed 98 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: to dissolve my four to oh one K to start 99 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: paying for things. 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: What the fuck? And that is what I was there for. 101 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: I think she was worried I was going to start 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: asking for money, which is strange as I have always 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: done everything I can to be as independent from her 104 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: as possible. She likes to use money as a manipulation tactic. 105 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I jumped off the call as my mom was making 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: a big deal about checking the mail for her Christmas car, 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: and I had to stop and explain it is a 108 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: terrible time to be making a fuss about that, as 109 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: we will resume normal life once we return home, but 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: can't do anything about it right now. She's worried about 111 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the Christmas card while. 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: HERR step son is dying. Like what priorities? Priorities serious? 113 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: Like you would? 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: God, it seem so obvious, like how do you how 115 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 3: do you have your priorities so out of whack? 116 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, just it's just unfathomable, how out of order 117 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: they are. Then I touched base with my brother. I 118 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: told my brother I had broken down and called my mom, 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: and he mentioned that he was glad. She answered, and 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: he had mentioned to my mother it's time to put 121 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: the petty bs aside, and what I am going through 122 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: is any parent's worst nightmare. I thought it was a 123 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: bit strange, but pretty much on par for my mother. 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Surgery went well, the brain drain worked, and we were 125 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: then just waiting a few days for our steps on 126 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to be released. Oh wow, yeah, big weight off their shoulders. 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: I imagine. 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: My husband and I said our goodbyes to head back home. 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: It was then the sister I messaged days earlier, finally 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: reached out, saying she heard the news from our mom 131 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: about my husband's son and wanted to let me know 132 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: that she was praying. I said, thank you, but my 133 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: blood started to boil. There's been a lot of bad 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: blood between my sister and I. She has done several 135 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: tactics intending to cause me extra hurt. After my sisters 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: had been the one to choose no contact. So this 137 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: was them going no contact with OP, not the other 138 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: way around, which is. 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: They you know, why. I imagine maybe Ope left the 140 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Mormon church. 141 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: There we go. That is sense. 142 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: I would put on the tinfoil hat, but that seems 143 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: very likely, very likely. There's been a lot of bad 144 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: blood between my sister and I, as she has done 145 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: several tactics intending to cause me extra hurt. After my 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: sisters had been the one to choose no contact, told 147 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: me that we already had one dead sister, they were 148 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: fine with another. Wo what, Oh my god? And they 149 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: got mad when I held them to the no contact 150 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and tried to punish me. 151 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 152 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there's not many ways to come back from 153 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: saying something like that. 154 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 155 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: So I asked my sister if she even knew my 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: stepson's name. I told her that this wasn't just my 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: husband's son, that this was my stepson, her nephew, and 158 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: our mother's grandson. She started to get huffy and defensive 159 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: and said that she wanted me to know that she 160 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: was praying and that we can stop the conversation right there. 161 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: That's okay too. 162 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: Like, how can you be praying and then at the 163 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: same time say the worst thing possible. 164 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: It makes no sense, divorce your family. 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, please red flag to which I promptly asked to 166 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: end the conversation as a relationship was too broken. She 167 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: responded that she was reaching out to let me know 168 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: that she was praying insincerity and she wasn't trying to 169 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: mend our relationship. I snapped and told her prayers are 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: meant for the Lord's ears, not mineoo Hey, men's sister, 171 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: bless your heart. Tell it to the choir, and told 172 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: her not to contact me on personal matters again. The 173 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: following day, I was messaging with my mother on a 174 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: few updates, at which point my mom told me she 175 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: knows how I feel, as she always worries when my 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: stepdad goes in for surgery, and that we need to 177 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: check the mail for her Christmas card. 178 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: This is not the time to ask for these favors. 179 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: I lost it again. 180 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: I told my mom that the only comparison is had 181 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: her daughter, who died in a scene at a car 182 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: wreck made it to the hospital and her life hung 183 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: in the balance, and that my stepdad's surgeries didn't compare 184 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: as they are mainly elected orthopedic surgeries knee replacements until 185 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: he got tired of them and then opted for amputation. 186 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: It's all apples and oranges, and that reaching out to 187 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: her was a mistake that I won't make again, so 188 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: really quick. It basically seems like the step mom, or 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: the mom rather was like hey, like check my Christmas 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: card and also saying like, oh, well, you know, maybe 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: we were in touch when you know your stepfather had 192 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: these surgeries and whatnot. And Op's like that isn't comparable, 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Like this was like a knee surgery and then later 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: an amputation, not life threatening exactly. 195 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: Life don't know whether the stepson is going to be 196 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: okay or. 197 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Not exactly, And this is, you know, I'm no medical expert, 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot more pre planned than this, which was the. 199 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Just murgency of all emergencies. 200 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of my frustrations are from 201 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: the helplessness of the situation, but my side has rarely, 202 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: if ever been there for me in ways that are real. 203 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: This is the closest thing my mother has to real empathy. 204 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: But my sister knew from the very beginning all of this, 205 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: and I had a family emergency even before my brother knew, 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: but couldn't be bothered to ask and reached out to 207 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: let me know she was praying because she wanted me 208 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: to know, but couldn't even tell me my own step 209 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: son's name. My mother seemed more concerned with the Christmas card. 210 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: She spends twenty five dollars on a Starbucks card most years, 211 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: which is what she wants me to have. But I mean, 212 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: come the hell on context of what's going on in 213 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: my life, caring more about that than her grandson. I've 214 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: tried to keep this mainly about myself, as my step 215 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: son is entitled to his privacy from strangers and he 216 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: is currently doing better, but not out of the woods entirely. 217 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: So please tell me, am I hate the ael. 218 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: I mean laughing say it together. No, I feel like 219 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: we always swap. 220 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one three, ready one two three, No, there 221 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: you go. 222 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this. 223 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Is one of the most clear cut things of not 224 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the a hole. 225 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, these the things that your mom 226 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: has asked you to do are not big things, right, Like, 227 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: they're not big things, and under any other circumstances, probably 228 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: totally fine to ask check the mail. 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: And also but also don't be mad about it. 230 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like totally but but if your step son 231 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: is their life is in danger, I'm not gonna be 232 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: freaking checking the mail. 233 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it. 234 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be tending to my step son. So read 235 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: the room, read the contacts. Mom OPI, you are not 236 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: the A hole. I am curious because this is a 237 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: member of the Okay fam. Yes, the a a an 238 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Okay biscuit. Some might say a tea biscuit. People didn't 239 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: want to be called tea bags, so I think tea biscuits. 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: It's off off the table, our own little tea biscuit. 241 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: Where are you, ex Mormon? I would love to know 242 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: if that that's true. That's like something that John and 243 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: I are kind of thinking. But let us know in 244 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: the comments if you're watching. 245 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: This true and and praying everything is going better, that 246 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: you get solace from your insane family, and and just 247 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: supporting you in the decision of like, you. 248 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: Don't need to talk to these family members. They are 249 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: not here to. 250 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: Start exactly, and like your family, like what your family 251 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: should do is love you. Because what your family should 252 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: do is love you. But if you love us, make 253 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: sure just subscribe We love you and see you tomorrow. 254 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. Time 255 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: for okop. 256 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Reelam am I the a hole for refusing to let 257 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: my husband's infertile friend name our son. 258 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: If she infertile, then she don't deserve a turtle. 259 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: That's right. If you can't, if you can't squirtle, then 260 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: you're infertile. Then you're a hurdle. 261 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So my husband, male thirty three's best friend, 262 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: male thirty seven, will is infertile. 263 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: How's that common knowledge? 264 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: It's funny, yeah, bus when people just walk around like, oh, 265 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know old Willie, his his will don't 266 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: work because Willy ain't. 267 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: It's so hot, ain't it. 268 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: He got divorced two times because of it, because he 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: lied and hid his infertilla two times. 270 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: Way, so he's like thirty seven now, yeah, thirty seven 271 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,119 Speaker 3: and lying about his Willy. 272 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: Like that's that's way too much. 273 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Like come on, I get it sucks, but you can't 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: lie about it to your partner. 275 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: Of all people. Yeah, you want to be long term? 276 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And his life was not the same the day 277 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: he was told he couldn't have kids. He'd always had 278 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: a soft spot for children, and when he found out 279 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: that my husband and I are expecting, he was so thrilled. 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: He started buying his gifts and making decore pieces from 281 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: his woodwork for the baby. 282 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: That's super cute, which is taking woodworking decore pieces like man? 283 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: I do like that? Yeah, man, Man, Man's Karen, he's caring. Allegedly, 284 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: we'll see. 285 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: My husband thinks that those are real nice gestures. But 286 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but feel uncomfortable, especially with how. 287 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: Much he keeps mentioning the baby. 288 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any reason to feel on 289 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: right trying. 290 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: To garner some sort of rumpel Stiltsk situation my would 291 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: work for your child. No, that was a good reference. 292 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: A few days ago, my husband and I found out 293 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: the gender of the baby. The minute we told Will, 294 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: he started calling the baby a random name he had picked, 295 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: the one that he would give to his baby if 296 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't infertile. 297 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: A little weird. That's strange, weird Will. 298 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: He then started begging us to use this name, and 299 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: my husband said, hey, buddy, it's a done deal. 300 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: What yes? What I mean? What's the name? Though? Like? 301 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: What is it? 302 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: Is it. 303 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: Classic? 304 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: I refuse, but my husband called me heartless and asked 305 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: me to do this one small eatsy weeds, tiny nice gesture. 306 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: That's a whole less name. That's like a huge decision. 307 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: That's a big gesture. 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, for his friends struggling to give him closure and 309 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: honor him after all the things he's done for us. 310 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: He has done a lot. Here's the thing. 311 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Imagine though the kids like, you know, mommy, where did 312 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I get my name from? It's like, well, you see, 313 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: uncle Will, his penis doesn't work. So because his penis 314 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't work, we were like, hey, let's name. 315 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: Him the name. Name you the name he wants? What 316 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: is that name? Though? 317 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: That's true, they need to tell what other. I flipped 318 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: out and said, it's my baby, not his. True Will 319 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: heard this and he left immediately. My husband yelled at me, 320 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: saying it's his baby too, and my behavior towards Will 321 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: was abhorrent. He left after him and didn't come back 322 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: until the morning. He kept saying the same thing and 323 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: pressuring me to agree on the name. 324 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: But I refuse. Am I the ahole for choosing this 325 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: hill to die on? I mean no? But what if? 326 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: I mean it's like if the husband likes the name, 327 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: that's one thing, like, you know, just very strange name. 328 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Like you're choosing a name should be a joint decision. 329 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, of of the parents, Like. 330 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 3: Maybe like like friends can have input and give suggestions, 331 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: but it's ultimately the parents that get or. 332 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Like, let's say there was someone who was like really 333 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: like was like this guy was like a brother to 334 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Opate and then he like passed away. 335 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Like maybe that's more. That's a lot more of his 336 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: dation work. His Willy just eight. Willian so not the ahole.