1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Can't Fully Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: and the Black effects. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Man. Just like that, we back on the air. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to yet another carefully reckless episode with Sugarl 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: just hilarious. 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Listen, y'all, it's been a lot going on. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, I actually had the pleasure 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: of hosting Jocelyn's Cabot season four reunion. 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all gotta get into it. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Make sure if y'all don't got zoos, make sure y'all download. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I have to pay a prescription. It's like 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: a subscription. 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Make sure y'all paid a subscription. Gonna watch y'all, good 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: old Sis host that reunion. It's something I've never ever 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: done before. Now that this is the show where they 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: be fighting, but it ain't like batties where you gotta 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: fight to be on it. It's actually some good, enlightening 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: shit like I'm proud of Joscelyn. I can't wait for 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: y'all to see because it's one thing that you would 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: expect about Jocelyn is to always see her beat the 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: shit off of mine, and she actually shocked the fuck 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: out of me. So I need y'all to go ahead 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: and watch souone into that. That will be coming very soon, y'all, 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: but we're gonna jump right into fixing the mess now. 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: This is the lady from a few episodes back that 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: she called herself checking me, you know, because I didn't 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: know the laws and I guess the rights of bisexual 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: women per se, so she called herself checking me. I 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: did tell her that I knew everything that she was 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: telling me, and that that still didn't change what I 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: thought or what I said to the woman that I 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: was giving the advice to. And this is what she 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: has said back, because this was the woman that told 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: me that she didn't even finish the whole episode because 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I basically I she didn't say I disgusted her, but 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: she got upset so she couldn't even finish it. So 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: how the fuck are you gonna come at me? You 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: didn't even finish the fucking episode. But this is what 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: she said. 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: I haven't listened to it. This is my first time. 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm listening to it, just like it'll be y'all first time. 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: So here we go, Jess. I hope your day has 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: gone well. 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, I'm just hitting you up today just for 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: two reasons. Firstly, to thank you for listening to my 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: last messages to you and responding to them, responding to 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: me directly and using it and the fix my mess 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: for last week. It was very enlightening to be able 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: to hear that. I didn't even know you would use it. 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: So I just wanted to thank you once again just 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: for taking the time well yeah, your day, to even respond, 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, and get back with me on that about 53 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: how I was feeling about that particular topic. So I 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: thank you so much for that first off. And then 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: also you told me not to contact you again. But 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm just honestly quite glad that you didn't lock me, 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: which I expected, just so that I could have this 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to reach back out to you, and thank you 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: once again for listening. 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: I also want to. 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna block you, girl. No, I ain't say 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna block you. I did tell you I 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: don't reach back out to me, now, y'all. I did 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: say that, now that there is audio of me saying that. 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: But I was just so upset because I'm like, damn, 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: how you gonna come at me hear? 67 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: And you finished listening to what I said, I don't 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: give biased advice. 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: If I and if I feel like I don't know 70 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: that much on a topic, one thing I ain't gonna 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: do is stick my foot of my mouth. 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: Because I don't know. 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the ins and outs of everything that 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm asked, You know what I mean. But I only 75 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: give advice on my own experience and my own wisdom, 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: you know. 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: So if it's anything I don't know. 78 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I will gladly tell you I can't help you, or 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: it won't be on an episode because I'm not going 80 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: to put your business out there if I can't advise you. 81 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: So, yeah, this is also what she said. 82 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: I also want to issue a formal apology to you 83 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: for offending you. 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: And I can't. 85 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: Clearly tell by your response to me directly and when 86 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: you were doing the fix my mess that I clearly 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: offended you by trying to critique your advice. 88 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: To someone else. 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: And I also want to thank you for mirroring back 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: to me how important word choice is when you're trying 91 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: to convey something in a conversation, because I clearly now 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: recognize let me using the term check you in the 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: beginning of the conversation. Yeah, definitely put everything in a 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: more negative light and put you on the defense, rightfully, 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: So just a little bit, just a little bit, I 96 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: feel like I definitely could have used the better term, 97 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: because when I use the word check, I didn't mean 98 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: that as in correction. I definitely did mean it as 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: in education or just to try to give you another perspective. 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, see this is what grown women can do. 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: I love this, Thank you girl, what I've seen done. Okay, 102 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: one of her voice notes are not playing, but actually 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: listen to all of it. 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: It was about thirty four minutes, I believe, and stop 105 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: when there was just not minutes left. So when I 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: got your response saying that I needed to listen to 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: the rest of it, I went ahead and went back 108 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: to it, and you know, it picked right. 109 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: Back up where it was, and I realized, you know, 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: it was just nine minutes left. 111 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: So the last part of what I heard was just you, 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: you know, giving her more advice. 113 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: Then you did the you know in your pam voice piece. 114 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: The next set of advertisements came on, and then that 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: was the end of it. So I actually did get 116 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: the whole bulk message and that whole session. 117 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: So my apologies for misquoting that as well. 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: I actually had listened to the majority of it before 119 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: I would had applied excuse me, replied, So I can 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: hopeordily understand how you thinking I only meant because of 121 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: my misspeaking, You thinking that I had only listened to 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: nine minutes and then trying to judge everything. I would 123 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: have been off put by that as well, So I 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: absolutely get it. So I just wanted to correct that 125 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: one point. 126 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: Right there, right there you go with the jail right there, 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: and then. 128 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: To answer your question. 129 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: So you asked when what I mentioned being triggered, Let 130 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: me also explain what I meant by that. I did 131 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: not mean about that specific situation. 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: I meant in more general terms. 133 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: It just seems like in society today, in past and present, 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: that US women get blamed for a lot that the 135 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: men do and not a lot of accountability is placed 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: on the man. There's a lot of double standards, I mean, 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: and I know you see it. You see every day 138 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: in social media, the different posts they come about, different 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: podcast conversations between opposite sexes. It just seems like women 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: can never do right. You know what I'm saying, And 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: that's what I was triggered by not by this particular situation, 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: just those double standards and how us women have to 143 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: take so much on the chin and in my reality 144 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: and my. 145 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, I wonder why all her voice notes are 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: not playing our sisters frustrating me because she heard. 147 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Some good things to say. 148 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: So that's basically it. 149 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there were some other things that you mentioned, 150 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: but you did mention that you did not want to 151 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: get into it back and forth, so I'm just gonna 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: let those things go by the wayside. We can agree 153 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: to disagree on this particular topic, but please know that 154 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: it's not going to stop me from listening to your 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: fix my message. I still love them, I still love 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: you and thank you for everything that you do. And 157 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: please know I was not at all offended by anything 158 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: that you said or anything thank you, she said in 159 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: response to me, at all, not at all, thank you. 160 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: I like to debate. 161 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: I've been on the debate team in schools and things 162 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: like that, so that conversation, even though we weren't talking 163 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: directly back and forth to one another, I felt like 164 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: that what was going on, and that feeds me, so. 165 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: I wholeheartedly appreciate it. 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Never took offense to anything, and I still love you, 167 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: just the same, just the same. Last I want to 168 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: say is and then I'll get off her because I 169 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: need to eat lunch. 170 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: The last thing I want to say is you may 171 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: not be aware, but. 172 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure you can see my picture when I write you, 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: I do look very youthful, so I don't know. 174 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Yes you do. 175 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: Responding to me as baby girl is meant in. 176 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: A oh no no. 177 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: But I'm actually a few years older than you, so 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: I just wanted to point that out. 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: That's it. 180 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: But once again, Jess, you are awesome. Keep doing what 181 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: you do, my sister. You are a voice for the people. 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: I love your platform. I will continue to listen, and 183 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: I hope you have a beautiful, blessed day. 184 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Love. But bye, Hey mss ma'am. 185 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, I literally call if 186 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 5: you listen all the time like you say you do, 187 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 5: I say baby, I call a lot of my women 188 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: baby girl, just because I don't know the ages that 189 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 5: you women are. Yes, you do look a lot youthful. 190 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 5: You look you look very very youthful, and you're a 191 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 5: photo very nice and curvy too. But yeah, you know, 192 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 5: you know, little petite, slim little thing, But yeah, you 193 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: do look young, so that that's the only reason that 194 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: I call you baby girl. 195 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Not to be smart. I ain't one of those that 196 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: be a baby girl, a sweetie. Uh yea. No, not 197 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: to be smart. No, I'm not. I literally wasn't. I 198 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: do want to. 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I appreciate you being vulnerable enough to 200 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: actually reach back out after me saying don't be you know, 201 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: don't reach back out to me and all of that. 202 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: I was just very upset because I was like, no, 203 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: she did not call herself checking me. Yes, it does 204 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: put a negative connosation on things when you say things, 205 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: so I'm checking you. 206 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 207 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: Just these days, wordplace, so it can mean so many 208 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: different things. If you're not directly talking to a person 209 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: one on one, anything can get misconstrued or misin turn, 210 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: bitter or anything. 211 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: When you're sending voice notes or when you're sending. 212 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Text messages, like if you're not in the same like 213 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: area as a person, if you're not talking one on one, 214 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: she can kind of get lost in translation. You know, 215 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: people can assume things. I'm so happy that you were 216 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: not offended by anything I said. I'm so happy that 217 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: you did hit me back. Guys, I did send her 218 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: a message that I did not preview you guys too, 219 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: because I felt like that was for me and her 220 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: and not for you guys. Basically, just you know, telling 221 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: her that you know, I hurt my feelings. I ain't 222 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: think that she you know, she critiqued me and came 223 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: at me and all of that. You know, check me, 224 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: But she ain't listened to the whole thing. And and see, 225 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: this is why communication is good as well. I didn't 226 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: know that she listened to twenty one minutes of it. 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: She didn't listen to nine minutes. 228 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: I thought. 229 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: She said she listened to only nine minutes of it. 230 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: So yes, but I appreciate you girl. Keep on going 231 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: back and forth with me, and if you got any 232 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: more mess for me to fix, let me know. Hold up, 233 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: hold up, I know this shit getting good, But listen 234 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: to just a couple seconds of a commercial. 235 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: If you love me, you'll listen. 236 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: All right, Moving on to the next story, here we go, Hey, Jess, 237 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: am I wrong? So my best friend of fifteen years 238 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: just got engaged and she asked me to be her 239 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: maid of honor. I respectfully declined because I know that 240 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: she's cheating on her. Now fiance and has no plans 241 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: of stopping. 242 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: Damn. 243 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: I told her I can't support her nor attend the wedding. 244 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: She said, if I don't come, it will raise red flags? 245 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Or should I stand my ground? M 246 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: all right? So look check this out right. 247 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 5: What I think is this is a very complex story, 248 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: and this can tear you as a best friend and 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 5: then as a woman, because as a woman, you standing 250 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: on dignity, you standing on integrity, you standing on morals. 251 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and what you believe in. 252 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: What you believe is that when you're marrying somebody, you 253 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: have to be faithful, and. 254 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Upon getting married, you're you're riding your vows. 255 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: This is a covenant, you know, of commitment that we're 256 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: about to you know, signed before God. 257 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Aka, this is a contract, Nigga. 258 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: You can't you can't fuck this up. 259 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: Basically, and in God's eyes, this is a sacred contract, 260 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: a covenant of commitment to be together forever, for better 261 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: or for worse. This bitch is already a how worse? 262 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: God? Damn? 263 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: So basically, your best friend is cheating on her husband, 264 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: on her soon to be husband who's now you know 265 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: her fiance, you don't want to attend the wedding because 266 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: it goes against what you believe, which is you have 267 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: to be faithful within your vowels, within your relationship, within 268 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: your marriage. But you know she ain't gonna stop cheating, 269 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: so you like, don't. I don't even want to be 270 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: a part of this shit. 271 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: Hmm. 272 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: As a woman, you are doing the right thing. As 273 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a best friend, you are doing the right thing. I'm sorry. 274 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If it were me and my best friend 275 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: was going up to be married and I knew she 276 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: was cheating on her husband or her wife, you know, 277 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: because my best friend is gay, I don't. I would say, 278 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't not be in the 279 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: wedding just because my bond with my best friend trumps everything. 280 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: Like it, I put my bond with her over everything. 281 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: My best friend is my girl, like that's my ride 282 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: or die. And y'all know how much I hate that term, 283 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: that phrase ride or god. No, this is my real 284 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: life of a half type best friendshit. Like best friend 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: is used very loosely these days. The term friend in 286 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: general is. 287 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Used very loosely these days. 288 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like to defined friend that that gotta be, man, 289 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: you're confidant. The person that tells you when you're wrong, 290 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: the person that you run to for advice, the person 291 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: that runs to you for advice, person that loves you 292 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: in and out, that loves you no matter what you 293 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: got in your bank account, that loves you no matter 294 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: what obstacles are throwing your way and shit like that's 295 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: that's a friend. 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: That's a friend. 297 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: And a person that holds you down, man, no matter 298 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: what you're going through. A person that spots you, that 299 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: can see when something is wrong, a person that doesn't 300 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: ignore you, that sees you for who you are, no 301 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: matter what what's going on, whether that's good or bad. 302 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: They with you in your times of ups as they're 303 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: with you in your times of down. So that's what 304 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: a friend is for me. That's what a That's what 305 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: a best friend is that I just described. And her 306 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: cheating on her fiance still would not make me decline 307 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: being her. 308 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Maid of honor at her wedding. 309 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Now, will there be a conversation put in place prior 310 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: to the wedding and what I think she should do, 311 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: what I feel she's up against, and how bad I 312 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: feel as a woman standing up there, knowing what you're doing, 313 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: knowing that you are already breaking your vowals, knowing that 314 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: you that you're up here living a fucking lie. You're 315 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: living in sin before God and your wife and you know, 316 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: and or husband. Whatever that's gonna bother me, It's not 317 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna bother me to the point where I'm gonna say 318 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be in a wedding, but hmm, it 319 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: will bother me a great deal, or yes it would, 320 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: but she would definitely know how I feel before she 321 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: walked down that owl. You know what I'm saying, whether 322 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: she still want to go with it or not, whether 323 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: she gonna keep it real with her damn self or not. 324 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: To be honest, I would object. 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 326 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one of them to object. I Am 327 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: not going to not be there again. I want to 328 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: stress this. I'm not gonna not stand there as her 329 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: maid of honor. But what I'm going to do is 330 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: tell her what the plan is. Look, I'm gonna stand 331 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: up there with you. But if you let that preacher 332 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: or pastor whoever or whoever is marrying you, guys, if 333 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: you let him include that one little part where he say, 334 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: speak now, will forever hold your peace? If you feel 335 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: you know that these two shouldn't get married, I'm gonna say, Okay, listen, 336 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I do I feel like they shouldn't. I feel like 337 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. I don't feel like they ready yet. And 338 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: then the husband or the wife would be like, yes, 339 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: I am, and then look at my best friend, like, 340 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: why is your best friend stepping out of line saying 341 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: this shit? And she gonna have to tell that nigga 342 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: or tell that woman right there, because she knows something 343 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: that the rest of you don't know. She knows something 344 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: that you don't know. I'm cheating on you currently and 345 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't plan to stop. And so my best friend 346 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: had a problem with that, and she's actually battling her 347 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: morals standing here next to me today marrying you knowing 348 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: damn well, I cheat and I'm not gonna stop now. 349 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: She may not say it like that shit. It ain't 350 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: my place to tell him. It's definitely my place to object. 351 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: It's your place to tell him. So yeah, while I'll 352 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: be there with ringing bells, bright out and bushy tailed, 353 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: supporting my girl, I'm going to give that objection. 354 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that she's ready. I do not think 355 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: that she's ready, And I'm. 356 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Sorry if she choose to be like, I don't know 357 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: what she's talking about, I'm ready, I'll be like, all right, 358 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: that's fine, and then I will. 359 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: Step back in line. 360 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: So niggas, no niggas, could just try to stop the shit, 361 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: so that way that the voice won't look so ugly, 362 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: the voice won't look like it just came out of 363 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: fucking nowhere because just tried the warners. 364 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: Period. 365 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: Now we got a commercial, and if you click off 366 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: this podcast, I swear I'm gonna beat your ass. 367 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: Listen. 368 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Now, I know a lot of my listeners are gonna 369 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: be like, Jess is lying. She is not about to 370 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: stand up there against our best friend and say no 371 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: bullshit like that. 372 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: And da da da da da da da, and said, listen, 373 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: you shitn't me? You shitting me? 374 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely understand as a best friend the position that you're 375 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: put in. And I honestly feel like you should have 376 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: a conversation with your girls. She says, sh don't want to, 377 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: She don't, she ain't gonna stop, don't be in a wedding. 378 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: I honestly feel. 379 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: Like that I just gave you what I would do, 380 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: and what I would do would probably embarrass her much more, 381 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, embarrass her furthermore. But it's better to get 382 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: that shit out the way then then later on break 383 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: this man's heart over something that could have been prevented, 384 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 385 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: I know the wedding is. 386 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: Already probably paid for. She wants to have a cake 387 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: and eat it too, and shit like that, and. 388 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: I know that. 389 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 5: But you know, obviously you are a woman of deep morale, 390 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: and you just don't. 391 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: You don't. 392 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: You don't like certain shit, you don't stand for certain shit. 393 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: And I feel like as a woman, you're doing the 394 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: right thing, and as a best friend, you're doing an 395 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: even wright thing. Just have that conversation. This may put 396 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: a wedge, drop a wedge between you and your best friend, 397 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: but when it's for the greater good and the bigger picture, 398 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't see anything wrong with that. 399 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: And if it ain't gonna physically. 400 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Hurt you or mentally hurt you or emotionally hurt you 401 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: to lose a friend for a little while, I say, shit, 402 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: don't go, don't be in it, or you can go, 403 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: just don't be in it, you know what I mean. 404 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: But definitely tell her how the fuck you feel. You 405 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: definitely gotta tell her you can't just like say I 406 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be in a wedding and then she 407 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: not know why, you know what I mean? Obviously she 408 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: knows you have your reservations about this shit because you 409 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: told me that. She said it would be raising red 410 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: flags if you don't come. 411 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: How the fuck would that be a red flag? To 412 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 5: be honest with you, it'd just be me and my. 413 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: Best friend fell out. 414 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 5: Has your best friend ever come close to her husband 415 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 5: finding out that she cheating my fiance finding out that 416 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: she's cheating? 417 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: And is it with multiple men? Is this like a 418 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: mistress type of thing? 419 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Like does she have an go on a side or 420 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: just one main nigga on the side? You know, I 421 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: need to know. Is she just I don't know, does 422 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the husband the fiance have money? Is she marrying this 423 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: nigga for security financial security and she just getting her 424 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: little dick on the side, or you know, I need 425 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: some more meat on the bone. I know you probably 426 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: don't want your best friend to figure out that you're 427 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: talking about her, but bababy, she probably already gonna know. 428 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, you brought this shit up to her obviously, 429 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: and she's probably gonna know because she's probably an avid, 430 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: carefully reckless listener. I also can't help but to point 431 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: out the fact that you said I am not the 432 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: only person that you gave this story to, because you 433 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: really are torn. 434 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: You need to know. You want to know what you 435 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: should do. Oh man, But that's that's what I. 436 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Think you should do. Baby. 437 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: Just be honest and just get back Timmy. Tell me 438 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: how the shit go. When is the wedding and shit, 439 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: I might pop out and object. 440 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: You never know if it don't. 441 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: If you don't want it to be you, how about 442 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: you go and I go and shit? And then when 443 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: they say, oh, if anybody objects, I can say object 444 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: because I know that she cheating on this man and 445 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't want him to find out later. 446 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: So better now or whatever? 447 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Does anybody else want to get married? So these people 448 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: money don't go to waste on these decorations. And then 449 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: we'll see how that go. But just let me know, 450 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: baby girl. And just like that, we have done this episode. 451 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: We've come to the end of yet another carefully reckless 452 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: with your girl. 453 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Just hilarious. And what I be doing, I'll be fixing 454 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: mess Like how I be doing. 455 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: So if you got messed that you want me to fix, 456 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: whether you want me to fix it on Carefully Reckless, 457 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: on a Black Effect, shout out to I Heart or 458 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: on Breakfast Club, make sure you hit me up in 459 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the Carefully Reckless podcast DM sending me a story now. 460 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: You can send it via voice note, or you can 461 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: type a long gas paragraph, but make sure you do 462 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: punctuations correct, because if it's a long run on sentence, 463 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna read it. I'm getting tired of trying 464 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: to fix you all broken english and shit broken literature. 465 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't want my nigga to know my voice. Well, 466 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: bitch you need to go take a punctuation class. You 467 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: need to go take an English class over and figure 468 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: out how to fucking write. If I got to read it, 469 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: your mess ain't gonna never get fixed. 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