Speaker 1: Like Bill, like it's not as if like everything's rosy.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, man, we do this one
Speaker 1: more time. We're not gonna win a fucking game. It's like,
Speaker 1: all right, coach, we're sixteen and oh.
Speaker 2: But three time super Bowl champion, three time pro bowler
Speaker 2: and ultimate prankster and Matthew big Bear gulch light.
Speaker 1: I was the first guy off the field. I was
Speaker 1: the first guy showered, and I was the first guy
Speaker 1: at the bar. That's what was important. I heard that story.
Speaker 1: Once you went into his office and what'd you do?
Speaker 2: So I had this mouse.
Speaker 1: When you hit that mouse button, it would send like
Speaker 1: Jesus through your body real quick. And so I go
Speaker 1: in and I put that thing on his laptop on
Speaker 1: his desk. You know how many times Rabel would have
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy on tilt during practice.
Speaker 2: And like hard shots. What's the worst thing Rabel has
Speaker 2: ever said to Tom oh Man? And today we are
Speaker 2: looking at twenty ten week sixteen Patriots versus the Bills.
Speaker 1: Man, that was a special day.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The most treasured thing that I own in my life
Speaker 1: is an email exchange between Bill Belichick and I. I've
Speaker 1: never spoken to anybody's ever received an email like Bill
Speaker 1: doesn't do human stuff right, Like I got an email?
Speaker 2: What it was his email say? Games of Names is
Speaker 2: a production of iHeartRadio. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,
Speaker 2: and we are on the search to find the greatest
Speaker 2: game of all time. On today's episode, we're covering Week
Speaker 2: sixteen of the twenty ten season Patriots versus the Bills
Speaker 2: with three time Super Bowl champion, three time Pro Bowler,
Speaker 2: Patriots Hall of Famer and ultimate prankster Matthew Big Bear
Speaker 2: gulch Light. That's right, King of the pranks, you guys,
Speaker 2: you'll hear this dude is wild, nobody wild.
Speaker 3: No one saying them for three weeks to see what
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 2: To us exactly, we get into getting snowed in a
Speaker 2: Buffalo h This was a crazy game. You'll understand why
Speaker 2: where we went after the crazy night of clinching once
Speaker 2: again the division in Buffalo, Matt's infamous pranks around the
Speaker 2: locker room. This guy is a prankster, prankster and what
Speaker 2: it's like getting an email from Bill Belichick. You're gonna
Speaker 2: want to hear this. He said, this is the only
Speaker 2: thing that he will ever want.
Speaker 4: Like the one thing that if his house burned down
Speaker 4: or if he lost everything that he'd want to save
Speaker 4: is this email correspondence, this correct back and forth.
Speaker 3: How quickly he was able to pull it up twenty
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 4: Quickly insane?
Speaker 2: I mean he probably reads a daily for innovation. It
Speaker 2: is our thoughts on the TV twelve roast, Tom Brady
Speaker 2: roast on it was up there, Matt Light was there.
Speaker 2: And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
Speaker 5: December twenty six, twenty ten, Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, New York.
Speaker 2: With twelve and two Patriots are on a mission to
Speaker 2: clinch the division, but.
Speaker 5: The Bills and their Lake Effects snow have other plans.
Speaker 2: This is a Dinosaur for life game. Who welcome to
Speaker 2: Games with Names. We have a very special guest, Big
Speaker 2: Bear Gulch. Matthew Light from Purdue. Welcome to games and names.
Speaker 2: That's Jack, that's Kyler. And today we are looking at
Speaker 2: two week sixteen Patriots versus the Bills. Why this game, Matt,
Speaker 2: It's a great question.
Speaker 1: First of all, if you asked me about any details
Speaker 1: of any game at any point, I'm gonna know next
Speaker 1: to nothing.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I look back on my career, man,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you a specific moment of anything versus
Speaker 1: like what you and like people that actually touch the
Speaker 1: ball and do like athletic shit like you guys could
Speaker 1: tell me exactly what the coverage was. You know what
Speaker 1: you did all you know, I adjusted my route on
Speaker 1: this thing, and oh yeah, that was when I caught
Speaker 1: that I was with fourteen yards and and oh that
Speaker 1: was a big pivotal moment a game like we don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that, dude. I was
Speaker 1: the first guy off the field, I was the first
Speaker 1: guy showered, and I was the first guy at the bar.
Speaker 2: That's what was important. I'm gonna have a good time.
Speaker 1: And so like literally, you know, to sit here and
Speaker 1: come up with a game like the first one that
Speaker 1: came to mind was you know what I want to
Speaker 1: talk about. I want to talk about when Crowder and
Speaker 1: I got ejected in Miami having fun and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, no, no, no, no, there was one that
Speaker 1: was a little bit more like your era. This game
Speaker 1: what happened afterwards and to me and I know you're
Speaker 1: the same way, but again, you you played the game
Speaker 1: from a different perspective, Like your mindset was completely different.
Speaker 1: Like you can remember a lot of really cool things
Speaker 1: that happened because you actually were involved with them, while
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, basically trying to just catch
Speaker 1: my breath and you know, not fall down. But this game,
Speaker 1: in particular, what it represents to me is what most
Speaker 1: of us seek as players after you retire, and that
Speaker 1: is the camaraderie, the little things that happened in the
Speaker 1: locker room during practice, during training camp, the busting of balls.
Speaker 1: Because to be honest, man, that's why I was in it.
Speaker 2: You know this. So what happened after the game, Well.
Speaker 1: It wasn't normal. I can tell you that much. So
Speaker 1: you know, I always just tell people that, like what
Speaker 1: was it like being in a league and what was
Speaker 1: it like? You know, such a Belichick, But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: nine percent of it was freaking brutal.
Speaker 2: We ain't basketball baseball where you get to go on
Speaker 2: road trips.
Speaker 1: You have there slapping each other in ass having a
Speaker 1: great time right before game time. Oh no, like we're
Speaker 1: sitting there like running in the walls. Guys are like
Speaker 1: doing lines of cocon.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. They never did that, but it was like,
Speaker 2: it's such.
Speaker 1: A high that everybody's assholes tight, everybody's freaked out, puckered,
Speaker 1: and especially when you have a guy who literally has
Speaker 1: no sense of humor, like Bill, Like, it's not as
Speaker 1: if like everything's rosy. I mean, oh my god, man,
Speaker 1: we do this shit one more time. I mean, what,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna win a fucking game. It's like, all right, coach,
Speaker 1: we're sixteen and oh but.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're doing pretty good now. Something just
Speaker 2: came into my head. Bill used to he was notorious
Speaker 2: for fucking quizziness on spot, and I could have sworn
Speaker 2: Matt Light was sleeping in a meeting and Bill tried
Speaker 2: to catch Matt and he goes, Matt, you got all
Speaker 2: the fucking answer.
Speaker 1: Exactly what he said. Actually, I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 2: Man, you got all the fucking answers. What coverage is that?
Speaker 2: And hit? You hit the coverage? What was it like?
Speaker 2: Two blit zone two C.
Speaker 1: It was like the square root in a triangle is
Speaker 1: equal to the I'm like, and everybody turns around. They're like,
Speaker 1: because they know I sleep, Like you know I sleep.
Speaker 1: I slept through every meeting and I don't honestly my
Speaker 1: wife was like, you're gonna get fired. Like my first year,
Speaker 1: I remember Dante Scarnekia, my line coach, would make me
Speaker 1: stand up in the meeting room when we had our
Speaker 1: offensive line meetings, and I would fall asleep eating a
Speaker 1: candy bar, trying to stay awake eating a candy bar,
Speaker 1: fall asleep standing and he would be like like if
Speaker 1: you if you fall a sleep one more time, I
Speaker 1: will kill you. And I'm like, oh man, like I'm
Speaker 1: a rookie. I didn't know what was happening on that
Speaker 1: one though, so this is the greatest right, so notorious
Speaker 1: sleeper Copan would kick me. He sat right behind me.
Speaker 1: He would always feed me the answer too, because I
Speaker 1: have not fuck, I don't know what Bill just said.
Speaker 1: I was asleep and so and by the way, like football,
Speaker 1: like yes, a bunch of the Anderthals, but like I
Speaker 1: don't need to watch that seven hundred times, like all
Speaker 1: we do is sit rewind, watch, rewind watch. So on
Speaker 1: this one, if you think on that season, we had
Speaker 1: a bunch of young guys and defensively, as you know,
Speaker 1: the defense could get everything. You know, Bill would be like,
Speaker 1: all right, look, you know, you know what do we
Speaker 1: expecting you know, he'd be talking to the offense in
Speaker 1: this situation, what are we expecting them to do? I
Speaker 1: mean it's third down, we're in a red zone. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we got you know, whatever, we got trips,
Speaker 1: you know. And and he'd ask somebody a question and
Speaker 1: it'd be like a really difficult question and we would
Speaker 1: come up with an answer that's pretty good. He'd be like, Ah,
Speaker 1: I'm not what the fuck you know, that's not what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I mean, god damn it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'd be watching an ounce of film and then he
Speaker 1: would go to the defense and he'd be like, all right, guys, like,
Speaker 1: what's one plus seven? And they'd be like, uh, six
Speaker 1: and a half and they like that's pretty close, pretty good?
Speaker 2: All right? Now, moving on?
Speaker 6: What are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Coach? Like those guys that have no color the jerseys, right, Like,
Speaker 2: he would give you some fucking terrible you'd give the
Speaker 2: easiest questions. He's fucking defensive guys, and they.
Speaker 1: Always got to pass every time. So I'm listening to
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, these cats have no idea. And
Speaker 1: Bill's kind of pissed off. Like we had a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks of coming in and I want some answers.
Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday morning, right, and you better have my answers, right. Well,
Speaker 1: they weren't having this, so I go on my way out.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why. I just had this this epiphany,
Speaker 1: and I walk into Coach's office, which is always awkward,
Speaker 1: like you don't go in there just to go in there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, and you got to pass Bears, the little
Speaker 1: man purse right there at the front, right, and I
Speaker 1: love Bears, but you know, so anyway, I go in there.
Speaker 1: Coach is working at his computer and he looks up
Speaker 1: at me. He's like, you know, like there wasn't a question.
Speaker 1: It was just like a you know, and I'm like uh.
Speaker 1: And right then immediately I'm like why did I do this?
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be I'm like, Coach, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm like, these guys don't have the answers. They're not
Speaker 1: coming in with stuff.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be funny if, like, you know, next
Speaker 1: time we do this, like or the next Wednesday or whatever,
Speaker 1: you throw me some questions and I'll just rat them
Speaker 1: off and be like shit that even Brady wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, all right, what what are
Speaker 1: you thinking? And I'm like, uh, well, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, you you say something then I ran off
Speaker 1: for an answer, and then you you try to hit
Speaker 1: me with another one, try to catch me slipping, and
Speaker 1: I'll just keep writing them off. And all the guys
Speaker 1: are gonna in that way. Now they're gonna know, like, well,
Speaker 1: I got to get in the film room. I need
Speaker 1: if light knows this shit, then I really need to
Speaker 1: do a little bit more studying. And it fell on
Speaker 1: deaf ears.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: He was just like, you know, look, I mean you know,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like a hey, that sounds like a
Speaker 1: great idea or that's really stupid. It was just like indifferent.
Speaker 1: So I walked out of there thinking that that failed.
Speaker 1: Three weeks go by it, I'm walking in and Bear's like,
Speaker 1: hey Bill, what's to see? And I'm like, oh snap, what.
Speaker 2: Did I do?
Speaker 1: Like I totally forgot about the whole conversation, right, and
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I walk in his office and immediately
Speaker 1: he goes, all right, look, you know I'll hit you
Speaker 1: with you know that you know what they're doing the
Speaker 1: third down? And then I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to
Speaker 1: you about, you know, when we get into the red zone,
Speaker 1: you know what what that looks like. And then the
Speaker 1: last one, I'm like, and he rattles off these three
Speaker 1: questions he's gonna ask me, and I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the answer, Like I have no idea,
Speaker 1: Like you're speaking like I have no idea what you're
Speaker 1: even referring to Bill? And he's like, oh well, So
Speaker 1: I grab a pin and I start writing answers on
Speaker 1: my hand and we go in team meeting kicks off
Speaker 1: and he starts off with his typical I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: in the category of what we're not looking for, and
Speaker 1: it's some Bengals, you know, problem with some guy getting
Speaker 1: the rest of the strip club or something. Always a
Speaker 1: Bengals player, right, I swear to God, Always a Bengals player.
Speaker 2: And then then he looks learned the Bengal formation. The
Speaker 2: f was all the way and the inside because he
Speaker 2: was in jail, in.
Speaker 1: Jail, easy way to remember that. So when he asked me,
Speaker 1: when he says, exactly what you said, all right, like
Speaker 1: you got all the fucking answers, all right? Here we go,
Speaker 1: what are they doing this? And I literally just rattled
Speaker 1: off immediately. I remember I could hear the air come
Speaker 1: out of coping, and he's like, shit, he's awake. And
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that one. So the next one
Speaker 1: he throws out there, immediately answer that one, and the third one,
Speaker 1: I'm like literally looking at my hand, of course. And
Speaker 1: so when it's done and we leave the team meeting room,
Speaker 1: I remember the guys coming up to me and they're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck. I'm like, heydud just get in a
Speaker 1: film room, you know, like like I didn't acknowledge the
Speaker 1: fact that Bill and I set that up. And you know,
Speaker 1: here's the best part, Jules. I've never had a conversation
Speaker 1: with Bill about any of the funny stuff that's ever
Speaker 1: happened between him and I. I have the most treasured
Speaker 1: thing that I own in my life as an email
Speaker 1: exchange between Bill Belichick and I. You ever get an
Speaker 1: email from Bill Belichick ever in your history of text message? Okay,
Speaker 1: but never an email. I've never spoken to anybody that
Speaker 1: I've ever played with, or it came after me or
Speaker 1: before me, that's ever received an email. Like Bill doesn't
Speaker 1: do human stuff right, Like that's a that's like a
Speaker 1: like a human thing to do, like send an email. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got an email.
Speaker 2: What was his email saying? So I was a rep?
Speaker 2: Right and I was in Hawaii the way. Let me
Speaker 2: let me paint the picture for everyone out there. Light
Speaker 2: was a rep, a union rep. And Bill took all
Speaker 2: the everything out on the reps because they represented the union.
Speaker 2: And he hated like the limits, like you guys, figure
Speaker 2: it out, what this fucking shit?
Speaker 1: And he couldn't do anything to us because he had
Speaker 1: Rabel on myself and and like it look and by
Speaker 1: the way, last night, let's just let's just pause for
Speaker 1: one moment. First of all, why was the best roaster
Speaker 1: I've ever been around in my life? As you know,
Speaker 1: you war words with him, you're losing, Oh, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I could hold my own in a storm. But
Speaker 1: that cat, he's coming. He's a tidal wave of emotions.
Speaker 2: It's probably on purpose. He didn't want to cry. Tom
Speaker 2: didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Cry because you know how many times Vrabel would have
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy on tilt during practice every time I mean
Speaker 1: he got in his ship. It was funny. So but
Speaker 1: I will say this props to you. Last night was
Speaker 1: phenomenal and you absolutely crushed it, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you, man, I was a little nervous for
Speaker 1: all you guys. I was live on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, you didn't even stretch.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't want no pregame routine. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: taking energy shake. Just nailed it.
Speaker 2: But that was all.
Speaker 1: But Vrabel is the best I've ever been around, man.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he wasn't there, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: In like hard shots, there weren't a whole lot of
Speaker 2: functions ever said to Tom oh Man.
Speaker 1: He went at him with everything.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: There was nothing sacred to Vrabel for any reason. I
Speaker 1: will tell you this. One of the favorite lines I
Speaker 1: ever heard Rabel say that was directed towards me is
Speaker 1: we had a stag night to raise money for the
Speaker 1: Light Foundation in my hometown, right and we stopped doing
Speaker 1: it because I thought, Man, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of kids born in my little hometown that don't belong
Speaker 1: to these daddies, and so I was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it became a little crazy. But
Speaker 1: Rabe would come in town with all these other guys.
Speaker 1: We had aj Hawk when he was at Ohio State
Speaker 1: and younger cats too right, and the mayor of my
Speaker 1: little town, now you got to think Mayberry right. And
Speaker 1: he gets up and he has this proclamation where he's
Speaker 1: gonna make it matt light day, right, and he stumbles
Speaker 1: on some words. An hour later, Rabel gets up and
Speaker 1: we're having an auction and he's like, hey, and you
Speaker 1: know when he gets the mic, man, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be profound, and it's gonna be hilarious. He
Speaker 1: stops everything and he goes, listen, I'll give anybody one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars right now, they can get the mayor to
Speaker 1: spell matriculate, because he tried using that in a sentence
Speaker 1: and he stumbled over it and in real time, man,
Speaker 1: it was really uncomfortable, but nobody said nothing. An hour later,
Speaker 1: Vrabel has it up there on the auction block.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a thousand if you can get the
Speaker 2: mayor Greenville' spell matriculate. And we lost it. But that's
Speaker 2: our boy, man, that's a funny, very funny man, fucking.
Speaker 1: So so so so yeah. So he wouldn't mess with
Speaker 1: us as reps very much. But I get home from Hawaii,
Speaker 1: long ass flight Hawaii.
Speaker 2: It was the union meetings were there.
Speaker 1: And so I was the guy that they got him changed.
Speaker 1: I passed the resolution saying if I want to Hawaii,
Speaker 1: I go to Hawaii.
Speaker 2: I don't want to fly all the way Hawaii. Why
Speaker 2: don't we do this in the States.
Speaker 1: We got all these you know, and dude, I think
Speaker 1: half the island wanted to kill me because that was
Speaker 1: a big revenue. But anyway, noither here nor there. I
Speaker 1: get home and this is like way before, you know,
Speaker 1: we live in this crazy time now where like we
Speaker 1: think it's always been the way it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: back up ten years ago. Man, I wasn't checking emails
Speaker 1: from my cell phone.
Speaker 2: I had make sense. Yeah, but you've got somebody that
Speaker 2: will I never know what she's doing that, what is
Speaker 2: she doing? What does she do? I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I get home, I got Jay, I've got whatever
Speaker 1: it is like Microsoft whatever, And I get on my
Speaker 1: thing and I'm checking my emails and there's an email
Speaker 1: in my inbox Belichick Commo Bill and I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you know what I thought immediately, Thank god, finally one
Speaker 1: of my offensive linemen is busting my balls.
Speaker 2: All the stuff I've.
Speaker 1: Done, and nobody's really come at me. And then when
Speaker 1: I read it, I was like, Coping, you son of
Speaker 1: a gun, because he's the only one smart enough at
Speaker 1: the time that would have done this. So I spend
Speaker 1: all night, like I got home at like, let's say,
Speaker 1: ten thirty, and I missed the whole first week of
Speaker 1: the offseason program because because I was at the meetings,
Speaker 1: I had to go. So the next the next day
Speaker 1: was Monday, so I'm gonna be jumping in a week late.
Speaker 1: And I'm staying up till like one thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I finally find a service where I can send
Speaker 1: an email and make it look like it came from
Speaker 1: someone else, and I know this is how Copin did it.
Speaker 2: So I write one to Copin. You spent six hours
Speaker 2: trying to forever, dude, forever.
Speaker 1: But by by the way, you know how it is, man.
Speaker 1: You find one and it says it works, and you
Speaker 1: test it and it doesn't work. You have to pay
Speaker 1: for something. I'm like, this is stupid. Anyway, I found
Speaker 1: one sent Coping an email walking the next morning, and
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go toe to toe, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonnadmit the shit. So when I walk past Copin,
Speaker 1: immediately he's like, you send me an email, didn't you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, did you send me an email? I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And he's like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, because he has to admit first
Speaker 1: what he did, and then yeah, okay, let's talk about
Speaker 1: it because that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Cope, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: We go in, we get our workout done, he doesn't
Speaker 1: bring it up anymore, and then he comes back to
Speaker 1: me right when we get done working out and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you did send me an email. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: didn't send you an email. He's like, that's great because
Speaker 1: somebody send me an email and it looks like something
Speaker 1: you would do.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, well, if.
Speaker 1: I get an email that looks like some of you do,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know right And now as I'm walking out,
Speaker 1: we get done running right, and I'm walking out for
Speaker 1: the day, I can't shake it. I'm like, he's not
Speaker 1: messing around. So I see Bears and I walk in
Speaker 1: his office and I'm like, hey, man, cause if it
Speaker 1: wasn't Coping, there's no one else smart enough. Bears must
Speaker 1: have sent it from Bill's email on behalf of someone else.
Speaker 1: And the minute I say something, the bears. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, Bill, send you an email. I'm like, come on, mail,
Speaker 1: not my first rodeo.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: He literally gets up, goes into Bill's office he's in
Speaker 1: the staff meeting, gets his computer to fire up, and
Speaker 1: shows me in his outlook on the scent box the
Speaker 1: email to me, and.
Speaker 2: It's the email.
Speaker 1: And I'm like like, immediately, I'm like, oh man, damn,
Speaker 1: Like that goes up a notch. Right, I'll read it
Speaker 1: for you. It's literally my prized possession.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I get this and now I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is legit. So I take like four or five days
Speaker 1: because you know me, I can't like not acknowledge this.
Speaker 1: I have to have some kind of a response. So
Speaker 1: I send my response and immediately I get one back.
Speaker 1: And the essence of what he sent back was We're
Speaker 1: never going to do this again. Number one, because in
Speaker 1: the in the subject heading it was concluding remarks, right,
Speaker 1: no joke, no joke. That concluding remarks and and and
Speaker 1: to this day, and what he wrote in there, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this, I could lose everything every Super Bowl
Speaker 1: ring I could care less.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Possessions like that mean nothing to me.
Speaker 2: This you gotta read it, read it.
Speaker 1: Get in there, man, text me and I got big
Speaker 1: fat fingers. So we've never had a conversation. Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: and I've never once spoken about this ever. So and
Speaker 1: by way, I never break this out. It's one of
Speaker 1: these things that he kind of has to be in person. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So here we go, here we go. All right, So
Speaker 1: just so you can see this, Saturday, April seventh, two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, at two thirty four pm.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is in undefeated season, yeah, going into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Well that's here, yeah.
Speaker 1: Greed in the subject heading Greetings from the NEP Off
Speaker 1: season Program. Exclamation point, all right, oh okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: end quotes. It's how it starts, Not like hey, Matt
Speaker 1: or just wanted to touch base with you, sir. It's
Speaker 1: a chance for us all to bond and start putting
Speaker 1: the wheels in motion for the following season. Left tackle
Speaker 1: Matt light set in a recent interview, the foundation is
Speaker 1: put in place at this time of year. What you
Speaker 1: do in March, April, May and June. What's you do
Speaker 1: in that mini camp in the passing camp. It has
Speaker 1: a direct effect on the beginning of your season, and
Speaker 1: you have to come out of the gate swinging pretty hard.
Speaker 1: That's what we've been able to do around here. In
Speaker 1: the quote bad right, that's.
Speaker 2: Kool aid, it's a good quote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. I got asked by a reporter in
Speaker 1: Hawaii about whatever I gave, the typical you know, do
Speaker 1: your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt, just read this quote
Speaker 1: from you dot dot What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Question Mark?
Speaker 1: And by the way, so you see like when I
Speaker 1: see this, like, that's got to be coping. They're messing
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: That's not real. And Bill doesn't send emails.
Speaker 1: We have over fifty guys here working out today, and
Speaker 1: the one who isn't here does all the talking about
Speaker 1: how important the offseason is. Figures a lot of your
Speaker 1: teammates were concerned about you and asked why you weren't here.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. We let them all know that you're
Speaker 1: in Hawaii for a week. If you want to get
Speaker 1: something productive done out there, why don't you have him
Speaker 1: move this meeting to the week before all in Caps
Speaker 1: teams start their off season programs. Question Mark, very respectfully,
Speaker 1: Yours Bill, Belichick, head coach New England Patriots. Okay, so
Speaker 1: when you got that, if you got that, you know
Speaker 1: that's not it's from Bill Belichick. All right, So we've
Speaker 1: been through this. You guys got the background. It took
Speaker 1: me day and I did elicit a little bit of
Speaker 1: help from a family member who's far smarter than me,
Speaker 1: and I send him this now and again, I will say,
Speaker 1: my wife from day one always told me you're gonna
Speaker 1: get He's gonna fire you. Like, please don't do that, Matt,
Speaker 1: Please please don't leave here with that device. Don't put
Speaker 1: that on anyone's you know whatever. Don't shock, don't do
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about doing every single day, because that
Speaker 1: will get you fired. This one I did kind of
Speaker 1: think may I was gonna get fired Coach b. I
Speaker 1: thought that was awesome. That was a way to go right.
Speaker 1: First of all, allow me to apologize for not responding
Speaker 1: earlier to your prior email. It has been my experience
Speaker 1: limited as it may be that a reflexive response did
Speaker 1: not serve anyone well. Thus, I felt it necessary to
Speaker 1: permit time to militate a more measured, philosophic response. As
Speaker 1: you are certainly better aware than anyone. We as human
Speaker 1: beings are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a compilation
Speaker 1: of free will, rational beings. Given this, it becomes critical
Speaker 1: to impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit of
Speaker 1: the order. I realized that the concept of collectivism strikes
Speaker 1: a measure of aberance and our rugged individualistic society. But
Speaker 1: it is such a collective good that allows us all
Speaker 1: to benefit. And it does not require a study of
Speaker 1: the encannabulum to realize that both coaches and players gained
Speaker 1: from a measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit
Speaker 1: held by the owners. Given this, in despite my commitment
Speaker 1: to the off season programs, I felt compelled to move
Speaker 1: forward the collective good of the players through attendants of
Speaker 1: the PA meetings. In a long run, it is generally
Speaker 1: for the benefit of all. My commitment to this end
Speaker 1: is in no way a negative reflection on my dedication
Speaker 1: and commitment to optimizing my personal performance to the grace
Speaker 1: advantage of the team. Your humble, free wild left tackle
Speaker 1: Matt Lait. Now that said, I figured I covered all basises, right,
Speaker 1: that's an email basis, and I'm good and I kind
Speaker 1: of got off my chest. Why I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed to be in attendance right like. It didn't seem
Speaker 1: like that big of a deal. I had no idea
Speaker 1: that this would be the response to that Gibberis and
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, this is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things in life again. April eleventh, twenty seven, twelve
Speaker 1: forty five pms like a midday email, midday weird concluding remarks,
Speaker 1: You're gonna love this, Matt. I need some time to
Speaker 1: let this one settle, but I'll start with this. Why
Speaker 1: don't you consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and
Speaker 1: not leading the team in once again being the most
Speaker 1: penalized player on offense. Your numerous false start penalties and
Speaker 1: evidence again at the Pro Bowl, and other transgressions like
Speaker 1: tawning continue to make me think that your distractions off
Speaker 1: the field affect your concentration on the field. My advice,
Speaker 1: if you have an interest in improving your performance would
Speaker 1: be to minimize your distractions and focus on maximizing your
Speaker 1: physical development and technique in the off season program. That
Speaker 1: one week really killed you. I continue to feel that
Speaker 1: you were totally out of line commenting on the importance
Speaker 1: of the program when you were not in attendance with
Speaker 1: the rest of the team. Now this is what it
Speaker 1: gets great. Finally, Matt, there is no need to use
Speaker 1: multisyllable words in your email that neither you nor I know.
Speaker 1: I am unimpressed.
Speaker 2: This will conclude my email exchange.
Speaker 1: And I will return to my efforts in trying to
Speaker 1: do a better job and coaching this football team. As
Speaker 1: for the PA meetings, don't worry about helping me. As
Speaker 1: I have said many times, and I remind myself, the
Speaker 1: best thing we can do for ourselves and our families
Speaker 1: is win all in caps. Try to keep that in
Speaker 1: your mind for in your quest for world peace. Sincerely,
Speaker 1: respectful yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, doing purchase. That's it, man,
Speaker 1: That's all I need in life, and we've never once
Speaker 1: acknowledged it. I played for another four seasons and it
Speaker 1: never came up in a conversation. Never or the fact
Speaker 1: that I fired him and he lost all of his information.
Speaker 1: That never came up, although he did stop me in
Speaker 1: the hallway and he said, I like you ever go
Speaker 1: in my office again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you do? I heard that story once
Speaker 2: he went into his office and what did you do?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: I had this remote right. And again this is back
Speaker 1: in the day when this stuff didn't really exist. But
Speaker 1: I was always surfing the net and it was a
Speaker 1: mouse and it plugged in actually, but they didn't do
Speaker 1: anything when you plugged in. You couldn't actually control the mouse.
Speaker 1: But there were I don't know how you get this
Speaker 1: much energy out of two triple A batteries, but those
Speaker 1: two triple A batteries, when you hit that mouse button,
Speaker 1: it would send like Jesus through your body, like real quick.
Speaker 1: And so he was in a staff meeting was it
Speaker 1: was in training camp, and nobody was there. So I
Speaker 1: slip in and I'm on.
Speaker 2: My way out.
Speaker 1: They're still working really hard, trying to make us better.
Speaker 1: And I go in and I put that thing on
Speaker 1: his laptop on his desk. I come in the next morning,
Speaker 1: you know, dying next killing me. It's like the start
Speaker 1: training camp. I'm not even thinking about what I did
Speaker 1: to night before. And Ben Bears is like immediately when
Speaker 1: I walk in, he's like not good, like like seriously like,
Speaker 1: and you can see in his eyes like the bear,
Speaker 1: the Bears, the bear.
Speaker 2: He not good.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what, but I know I know what
Speaker 1: he's saying, right, but I'm like, what are what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Deny to you die? And he's like
Speaker 1: just telling you. It's not good man. What happens is
Speaker 1: not good. And I'm like, hey, look, I can't play
Speaker 1: this game right now. I gotta go get ready. So
Speaker 1: I walk into the meal room. And when I walk
Speaker 1: in there, Matty p Is just got some toast or something,
Speaker 1: and he turns around and he sees me and he's like,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. And I'm like what, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: two and he's like, hey man, he's fired up and
Speaker 1: because of your dumb ass, we spent like two more
Speaker 1: extra hours here last night. And I'm like for what
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, he goes, I know it was you.
Speaker 1: And when he shocked himself. The first time he had
Speaker 1: he had his hand off the keyboard. The second time
Speaker 1: his hand hit the keyboard and it deleted his notes.
Speaker 1: You know how he takes notes everything of everything, everything, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, this is crazy, man. Here's here's a
Speaker 1: great example. We're let's say we're playing the Jets and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Monday afternoon, so we're playing a divisional game. Right,
Speaker 1: It's we're coming off a loss on the road, and
Speaker 1: you know, we we have a two key players on
Speaker 1: defensive went down. He'll go back in his notes and
Speaker 1: do keyword search or something, and he'll find a scenario
Speaker 1: that mimics that almost to a t. And then he'll
Speaker 1: look and see, how did I address the team. Did
Speaker 1: I go hard on him? Did I take it easy
Speaker 1: on him? Did I push him? And how hard did
Speaker 1: I push him? Did we practice a certain way? What
Speaker 1: was the outcome? How did it come out?
Speaker 2: All that stuff gets analyzed.
Speaker 1: Man, that's the craziness in the complexity that a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't realize. I don't know how much that
Speaker 1: weighs in his success or whatever else, but that's who
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So when now, by the way, first time he didn't
Speaker 1: have his hand on a keyboard, the second time he
Speaker 1: shocked himself, he did, and it closed in a program.
Speaker 1: The way I look at that is you're an air repeater.
Speaker 1: That the first one was my fault, second one that's
Speaker 1: your fault. Now we didn't talk about that, but I
Speaker 1: will say this. When he lost that, that was not
Speaker 1: a good day because it wasn't like auto save apparently,
Speaker 1: so all of his notes for that day apparently went
Speaker 1: by by and what I thought was real, So I
Speaker 1: wanted to go get my mouse, but I left that
Speaker 1: thing in there.
Speaker 2: Buddy.
Speaker 1: Once I heard about that one, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that thing's going on. I mean literally he said something like,
Speaker 1: I mean he stopped me. And by the way, Bill's
Speaker 1: kind of like Tommy, like, I have no idea how
Speaker 1: tim he got from one meeting room to the next.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he floated in the atmosphere, he
Speaker 1: like like became particles and just reappears like in weird places.
Speaker 1: Obviously he didn't shower time. He never showered.
Speaker 2: Never.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever saw him in there weird.
Speaker 2: Well, actually I see him a couple of times. He'd
Speaker 2: have the two shower heads on him. Ember he would
Speaker 2: be in the corner sometimes rarely shower heads. I'm like, dude, yeah,
Speaker 2: I had two showers I know, and neither one of
Speaker 2: those heads wanted to be pointed to him. No, seriously,
Speaker 2: Like the water was like, he's he's hydrophobic, like it
Speaker 2: like water doesn't like him. He got to think about it.
Speaker 2: He probably goes to like his sick home where like
Speaker 2: he's got like hydrogen based water.
Speaker 1: No, I'm listen I think he has every day. I
Speaker 1: think so seriously, it's Alex little tiny hands, like, so
Speaker 1: what did Bill say?
Speaker 2: Hey man?
Speaker 1: He was fired up. He basically told me if you
Speaker 1: go in my office again, I will kill you. And
Speaker 1: of course I did not. I'm like, coach, what are
Speaker 1: we even talking about? He's like, you know exactly what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. I really don't, I said, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get some food here, I'll see in the meeting room.
Speaker 1: And and but it was weird because Maddy p came
Speaker 1: at me and so the Bears and I thought it.
Speaker 1: I thought they were like flipping it on me right, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make him think that. You know, coaches really
Speaker 1: fired up? No coaches because Dante was the last one,
Speaker 1: because you know Dante doesn't mess around. Dante was real
Speaker 1: matter of what did say, Like, He's like, I don't think.
Speaker 2: That was a good idea.
Speaker 1: You probably shouldn't go in the head coach's office. And
Speaker 1: I'm like you too, I'm like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're even talking about.
Speaker 2: So did you deny it?
Speaker 1: Till day to forever forever? But that's the so again,
Speaker 1: we didn't have a conversation about it. It wasn't like at
Speaker 1: some point he came to me. It was like, hey,
Speaker 1: that shit was kind of funny. You got me that
Speaker 1: sh had hurt, you know, like we cool to acknowledge
Speaker 1: any of this, Like, hey, remember that email you sent me?
Speaker 1: Like that was funny. But there's a part of me
Speaker 1: that believes, like what he reiterated on his concluding remarks email,
Speaker 1: that he was kind of serious.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that serious. He may have
Speaker 2: been dead serious. He probably would try to kill you
Speaker 2: if you went in his office again. I bet sure
Speaker 2: he got cameras put in for that. Probably.
Speaker 1: You know, he probably had Brigs sitting there like with
Speaker 1: like some Samurai sword waiting for me to walk in.
Speaker 1: By the way, brit Briggs legit s a s yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a head of our security. I mean, this
Speaker 1: dude was a legit miss leg Yeah. Did miss a
Speaker 1: leg get bit by a shark or something? That was
Speaker 1: always the rumor that because it was a swimmer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like his shark took his leg off.
Speaker 2: Guy's British too. Yeah, the meanest motherfucker you'll ever meet.
Speaker 1: Hey, do you remember when he and I had a
Speaker 1: serious confrontation Now in San Francisco. I don't think I
Speaker 1: was there outside the meeting room.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Oh I think you had to have been when we
Speaker 1: went back to back. We played to West Coast always
Speaker 1: right before you got there, that's right though. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it was great. So I had this girl that stole
Speaker 1: from us and uh, she was like a babysitter, girl
Speaker 1: that stole from you. Yeah yeah, like not not not
Speaker 1: anything like that, but she was.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: She was babysitting and she ended up taking like jewelry,
Speaker 1: and she's like that. She came from a good home.
Speaker 1: She had one of those sicknesses where she's like stealing stuff,
Speaker 1: which I kind.
Speaker 2: Of like that. It's kind of cool, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Keep your eye on the green flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, listen, I won't I won't take nothing from me.
Speaker 1: But she so we caught her on the cameras. Now
Speaker 1: we're on the West Coast, and you know how they
Speaker 1: always tell you, right like, hey man, if anything comes up,
Speaker 1: give it to us. We'll offload it. We want you
Speaker 1: to focus on football. So I kind of like doing
Speaker 1: things on my own, right, But on this one, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, we're far away from home. So Briggs is
Speaker 1: there obviously running security, and I said, hey, may can
Speaker 1: you just have your guys deal with this? And dude,
Speaker 1: it was like the easiest thing in the world. Don't
Speaker 1: tell the girl what we know she stole. Just interrogate
Speaker 1: her and make her confess to what she took, right, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like if you're going to introgate some mean
Speaker 1: you don't let them know, like, hey, we know you
Speaker 1: took this, this, this, and this, what else did you take?
Speaker 2: Well? No, I didn't take anything else. You got it?
Speaker 1: Like you make her spell out because if she doesn't
Speaker 1: say all the stuff we know she took, we got
Speaker 1: her on camera, then she's lying.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: It was like freaking the worst you know, detective work.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: They get her in there and they basically literally say,
Speaker 1: we know you took this, this exactly what not to do.
Speaker 1: So I lost my mind. I'm like, hey, man, you
Speaker 1: had one job like Bill does, and and and you know,
Speaker 1: Briggs like, hey for you, And I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take your leg and beat you with that thing. And
Speaker 1: that was the wrong thing to say, because actually I
Speaker 1: love Briggs.
Speaker 2: Briggs he is when you get to know what when
Speaker 2: you're new he hates you.
Speaker 1: Hates you, Well he's got it. That's like a whole
Speaker 1: British thing, man, Like what false superior? Then you idiots?
Speaker 1: You know, we own your country, Like no, you lost.
Speaker 2: The war revolutionary, Yeah you lost. Yeah we want part
Speaker 2: up with the damn French.
Speaker 1: But but if your essays, man, regardless of whatever, beat that,
Speaker 1: those guys are legit, real deal. And he was a
Speaker 1: good man, So.
Speaker 2: What did what did? So you yelled at him and
Speaker 2: San Francisco.
Speaker 1: But Bill's Bill was coming down because we're getting ready
Speaker 1: to go in the meeting room, and it was like
Speaker 1: right at the start of like one of those days.
Speaker 1: You know how weird it is when you're hotel and
Speaker 1: you got team meeting in the big room and you
Speaker 1: have these breakout rooms and we're sitting out there and
Speaker 1: we're going at and Bill basically walks out. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, what what are we doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, what the fuck? And I was like, this
Speaker 2: guy's an asshole.
Speaker 1: And the girl got away with him. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, dude, scot Free. Hey, by the way, that's
Speaker 1: isn't that our world?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, hey, you know we're not going to prosecute robbery.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, that's a good idea. I'm sure they'll quit.
Speaker 1: By the way, the guy before Briggs was a madman,
Speaker 1: Frank Mendy's who Frank got the boot and uh and
Speaker 1: our boy Briggs. He came in when Frank chewed out
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. He was like a Craft family member.
Speaker 1: Frank didn't last night longer, No, no, good man.
Speaker 2: How about that Brady roast last night?
Speaker 1: There was a there was a part of me that wondered,
Speaker 1: how is this gonna work?
Speaker 2: Live?
Speaker 1: Event live? Kevin, I will say, Man, as funny as
Speaker 1: that dude is on everything I've ever seen, he nailed
Speaker 1: it like last night, Man.
Speaker 2: And it was so impressive to watch those guys, like
Speaker 2: the professionals, because I was watching the teleprompter the whole time,
Speaker 2: like seeing are they going to hit it at this right?
Speaker 2: And they would just like segue and do their own shit.
Speaker 2: They would say the same thing in a different way
Speaker 2: and then yes, like it's it's an it's fucking a skill.
Speaker 1: A true profession And as we were talking earlier, Man,
Speaker 1: like those guys support each other so much, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, mos, yeah, comics, like I think it's it's
Speaker 1: probably one of the most intimidating things from a professional standpoint, right,
Speaker 1: like if you're going to get to where you're well
Speaker 1: known and recognized, but then to sustain it, right, and
Speaker 1: and you think about like like in football analogy, right,
Speaker 1: like winning back to back, that's really really hard to do,
Speaker 1: right it We did it, and and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we can we came
Speaker 1: really close at other times, but to actually do it.
Speaker 1: And so for these guys, some of these guys have
Speaker 1: had hit it. I mean you think about a Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle who was there last night. You know, you think
Speaker 1: about Bert and some of these new guys that have
Speaker 1: been rising over the last five, seven, eight years, right,
Speaker 1: how they do it? They do Jim Gaffigan was there
Speaker 1: last night. I mean, all these iconic comedians and and
Speaker 1: what was cool was that they were all throwing a
Speaker 1: lot of love and a lot of shade to each
Speaker 1: other because I think that even though they may be
Speaker 1: competing for the same dollars or whatever, right and all
Speaker 1: that there's the total love amongst all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and Kevin though, Kevin Man, dude, he was man.
Speaker 1: If somebody did something like when Gronk grabbed the wrong
Speaker 1: thing or when you know or when by the way,
Speaker 1: you see him back that teleprompter up.
Speaker 2: I was like that.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, no, back back back, back, back back.
Speaker 1: But if you were at home, you probably have no
Speaker 1: idea none. That was just him being Kevin, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was legitimate. The whole thing was great, though.
Speaker 2: I thought it was. The comics are kind of like
Speaker 2: the linemen put in the work. Yeah, real sexy grinders.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all kinds of weird have had trauma. In
Speaker 2: the words.
Speaker 1: Bert would be a good lineman.
Speaker 2: Though. Bert is a lineman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of. Yeah, but he's looked a little
Speaker 1: skinnier than I thought.
Speaker 2: He's been working out. He's been working out, but like
Speaker 2: he has Liman heart.
Speaker 7: Too much ego, too much, too much ego from Bert
Speaker 7: to be a lineman. Yeah, we can say that he's
Speaker 7: been here, Okay, friend of the show, friend of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had my joke last night.
Speaker 1: By by the way, he was he was loving your set, man.
Speaker 1: I was watching Bert, Bert, Tom all those guys are
Speaker 1: loving you. You you you did knock out the park.
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, I was a little intimidated for you.
Speaker 1: I was actually really worried about Gronk because he was
Speaker 1: amped up and he starts getting a little jeer. You know
Speaker 1: which way that golden retriever is going to go?
Speaker 2: Man? He may yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I love him by the way I took him hunting.
Speaker 1: This was such a special moment and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to get him out again. Although I don't think his
Speaker 1: missus likes the fact that he goes out and kills
Speaker 1: animals with me. But that's okay. We eat every one
Speaker 1: of them. We shot this deer, he said, light of
Speaker 1: He goes, he goes, you know how good wild game is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's all I eat. He's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: it's like really good. Have you ever had an elk?
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, just butchered one the other day.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, Kidney. He goes, I want to
Speaker 1: go hunt with you. I'm like, all right, cool. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, but you got to come out
Speaker 1: and take some shots. We got to get your hunter
Speaker 1: safety course all this stuff. He's like, no, no, I
Speaker 1: want to watch you kill. That's really not you hunting.
Speaker 1: But all right, so I got this this tag. We
Speaker 1: go out, I shoot this deer, and my dog goes
Speaker 1: to track it, right, because that's what he does. My
Speaker 1: dog can't find it, and Gronk is wearing like zubas
Speaker 1: and tennis shoes, and we had to go into like
Speaker 1: the thick, gnarmally nasty thorns everything. So my dog finally
Speaker 1: gets on this deer and we're trying to keep.
Speaker 2: Up with it.
Speaker 1: Gronk's like caught in a briar patch and he's like,
Speaker 1: is there ticks. I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of ticks.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you better check yourself, like legit. And so
Speaker 1: we finally get up on this hill and my dog
Speaker 1: stopped barking. I've had it. I've had it. I do
Speaker 1: have crowns. YEAHI bill noted that in front of the world.
Speaker 2: That was nice. I got one for him. I got
Speaker 2: one for him. But we finally catch up my dog
Speaker 2: the funk up? What do you say exactly? First of all,
Speaker 2: he is lucky I didn't have the mic because I
Speaker 2: would have had a field day with his ass that
Speaker 2: one right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. So my dog we
Speaker 1: get to this deer and Gronk and I witnessed my
Speaker 1: dog jump on the back of this buck and ride
Speaker 1: him down the hill and they're fighting and he's like,
Speaker 1: we gotta save your dog. I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: anywhere near that. I'm like, you can go in there
Speaker 1: and save my dog what you want, and it was
Speaker 1: it was classic.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: And then he actually helped gut it in the whole
Speaker 1: nine and he I gave him whole bunch of steaks
Speaker 1: off it and he got to eat his wild gay man,
Speaker 1: good man, you're gonna come hunt with me at some point,
Speaker 1: Not really that, that's kind of like.
Speaker 2: We did vesant hunting on that property. And then the
Speaker 2: guy cooked a pheasant pizza or something with the oh yeah,
Speaker 2: some good stuff. It is good.
Speaker 1: You take anyone else hunting, just uh, let's see Saturday,
Speaker 1: before we flew out out here to La we uh
Speaker 1: met up with Brew and his son.
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: Had a great hunt man turkey season.
Speaker 2: I think I remember, didn't you like post up on
Speaker 2: the Patriot property and take some fucking deers down or
Speaker 2: something or was it a turkey?
Speaker 1: I pulled up and I hunted that property forever because
Speaker 1: mister Kraft was like, I mean, look, he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about what you're doing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: It was like a green light, right, so I would
Speaker 1: hunt right behind a stadium. Were that Lawtons Farm close
Speaker 1: to that, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And they're great people. I went in one morning and uh,
Speaker 1: this is is before practice. This is before yeah, and
Speaker 1: this is the off season. And uh, I go to
Speaker 1: set up in. One of the security guys comes over, you,
Speaker 1: like the guy with like the weird lazy eye.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, hey man, you can't be here.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, huh, I'm like no, I'm gonna park
Speaker 1: it over here. I'm gonna go in here and kill
Speaker 1: this bird. I've roosted him last night, like I know
Speaker 1: where he's at. And by the way, it's three in
Speaker 1: the morning. It's dark, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: and I got my backpack, I got my bow and
Speaker 1: everything ready to rock. And he's like, no, Briggs said,
Speaker 1: you can't be here now. That's just like and this
Speaker 1: is the off season, right after that little kerfuffle. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, listen, because you know Briggs lives like right.
Speaker 2: Around the corner on the property.
Speaker 1: Yes, I said, if Briggs doesn't want me here, go
Speaker 1: wake his ass up and tell him to come out
Speaker 1: here because you're not stopping me. And I'm walking right there.
Speaker 1: So I get my stuff and he's like kind of mumbling,
Speaker 1: and I walk right in. I set my tent up,
Speaker 1: I wait for it to get light. Bird gobbles flies down,
Speaker 1: sits right next to my decoy. I shoot him, I
Speaker 1: breast him out, I take him in. I always put
Speaker 1: him in the fridge there in the meal room, and
Speaker 1: actually some of the sometimes the chefs there would would
Speaker 1: cook up some stuff for me.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: But anyway, as I'm eating breakfast, Bill walks in and
Speaker 1: he's like, I mean, look, what are we you know,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? You can't you can't have a
Speaker 1: fucking weapon on stadium property.
Speaker 2: And I go what.
Speaker 1: I go, Hey Bill, this, I go, the reason you're
Speaker 1: hearing about this is because you know, Briggs is a dickhead.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've hunted this thing forever. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn what you've done. You can't have
Speaker 1: a weapon on stadium property. I go, Bill, it says
Speaker 1: you can't have a handgun. You can't have a gun
Speaker 1: on gon't. I don't shoot a gun. I had a
Speaker 1: bow and arrow. He goes, this is awesome. He goes,
Speaker 1: you want to argue with me about what the rules say.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's pretty good at knowing what the
Speaker 2: rules are. I'm not gonna lie to here. And when he.
Speaker 1: Said that, I started second guessing myself. I'm like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: maybe it did say weapon. And so now the only
Speaker 1: thing I can pivot to. I'm like, I'll go, I go, okay, Bill,
Speaker 1: So I checked Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary at the
Speaker 1: door too.
Speaker 2: I go, these are deadly.
Speaker 1: That's my only thing I had, right, And I remember
Speaker 1: the other guys that we're in the meal room, like
Speaker 1: the younger guys. You're looking at me like, damn.
Speaker 2: Dude, like that's your heck out. You probably shouldn't be
Speaker 2: saying that.
Speaker 1: And Bill's like, hey, look, I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about it. Don't don't bring anything on here ever again.
Speaker 2: And he walked away.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, man, that maybe i'd been a
Speaker 1: great idea. But yeah, yeah I did. I had a
Speaker 1: little little hunt that morning, and that may have been
Speaker 1: the last time I did that.
Speaker 2: How did you stay on the pats for eleven years?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. Did you ever
Speaker 1: see the did you ever see the video right before
Speaker 1: one of the Super Bowls? Or were you there when
Speaker 1: I did the Harry Carey.
Speaker 2: I saw the video. I remember, didn't you do like
Speaker 2: a video around where he was like massaging you or something?
Speaker 2: Or yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Rabel for the happy ending. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I did that shot that because you know how the
Speaker 1: again the defense with all their little perks. You remember
Speaker 1: how they would show a funny video the night before
Speaker 1: the game and they would have something and they would
Speaker 1: all be cutting up, laughing over there while we're getting
Speaker 1: dog cuss you guys suck and like having a great time.
Speaker 1: So Bill came up to me, or it may have
Speaker 1: been Maddy p one of one of the defensive coaches,
Speaker 1: and was like, hey man, we want you to do
Speaker 1: this video. We do a video for us. And I
Speaker 1: used to always do Harry carry right, so it was.
Speaker 2: A Harry carry real quick. A Mike Rabel, you're a
Speaker 2: good Maya. You're a good Maya. I love you, Rabel.
Speaker 2: If you're bilk Hayes's off to sit youl anyway.
Speaker 1: If the boot were made of spare cheese, so we
Speaker 1: would do that and have fun, right, And I did
Speaker 1: that video, and I remember there's a security castle on
Speaker 1: this he maybe I was on a treadmill for a while,
Speaker 1: like half naked, and I don't even know why, like
Speaker 1: it was just stupid stuff. And I remember I had
Speaker 1: to get glasses. So there's a security guard that had
Speaker 1: these big coke bottle glasses. And this is like right
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl, and like I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: be serious, you know, like like I did take the
Speaker 1: game serious, but they're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got this vesus.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, say the video cruise video. And
Speaker 1: I remember the guy had to sit in a chair
Speaker 1: and couldn't move because he couldn't see his like right here.
Speaker 1: So this poor secure Guardy's just sitting there forever while
Speaker 1: I'm wearing his coke bottle glasses doing some stupid Harry
Speaker 1: carry bit. And I remember, thank god we won that
Speaker 1: super Bowl because I remember mister Kraft apparently got ahold
Speaker 1: of it and played it for all the people on
Speaker 1: this private jet on the way home. Because I met
Speaker 1: some of them. They're like, we watched this awesome video
Speaker 1: of you on the way back to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: And I was like, what though, yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I think that's why they kept me. It wasn't my
Speaker 1: stellar play.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that much. You didn't get cut.
Speaker 2: You got cut. No, no, no, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I made it as long as
Speaker 1: I did. Oh Bill was like, oh, he's gonna do
Speaker 1: something stupid. Yeah, you know, fucking Bill.
Speaker 2: Take us back to Ohio. What was the young man like?
Speaker 1: Like, I wanted to be a game warden until I
Speaker 1: found out that they don't. They don't get paid very
Speaker 1: much money. You know what's crazy? Man grew up in
Speaker 1: a small little town Homa, Antioakley. Yeah, a little miss
Speaker 1: sure shot. You know anything about her? While Bill Coate
Speaker 1: Bill Hiccott.
Speaker 2: Like, no, I can't stay. I don't know anything about
Speaker 2: She's like a little missure shot. She had a feed
Speaker 2: her family. Absolutely not Matt oh Man, Wow, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, so you're not gonna probably go to
Speaker 1: the Anioki Museum in a Gars museum, that's that's not
Speaker 1: a big deal. Small little town, big farming community. I'd
Speaker 1: never seen a game until I played the one, right,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know Prudue was in the big ten
Speaker 1: I'd never seen a college game. My dad severe polio.
Speaker 1: Growing up, right, we didn't do sports. We were into
Speaker 1: the outdoors, you know, pre eighteen hundred encampments, running around
Speaker 1: doing crazy stuff hawking, knife competition, hunting, fishing.
Speaker 2: Did you ESPN stuff like where they would do like
Speaker 2: the axine and loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the best, man, I used to watch it.
Speaker 1: You ever watch you guys? Know who Marty Stalfer is?
Speaker 1: You ever heard that name? No, I'm Marty Stalfer. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Our Wild America. That's not my favorite show growing up, dude,
Speaker 1: he like take you out, show you neat thing, like
Speaker 1: here's a pine Martin. They're really clever and he like
Speaker 1: film them.
Speaker 2: I mean it was awesome, dude.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Bob Ross meets you know, like David Attenborough.
Speaker 2: David.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go without the British accent. David Attenborough
Speaker 1: is a badass, so, sir, sir, by the way, Sir
Speaker 1: David Attenborough. So anyway, that was my world. Man, growing up,
Speaker 1: small little town. I had no idea to get a scholarship.
Speaker 2: You play high school? You played high school football?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I played well. My mom did not
Speaker 1: want me around so like like I played pee wee,
Speaker 1: I was. I was in football in my life, but
Speaker 1: and terrible, really terrible.
Speaker 2: I was tied end.
Speaker 1: I went to Purdue as a tight end for some
Speaker 1: unknown reason. I never did anything athletic. Ever, I was
Speaker 1: never a tight end in the high school.
Speaker 2: You keep on saying that, bro, you're like an undersized tackle.
Speaker 2: You have to be athletic.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I I can, I could I have. I
Speaker 1: have decent short space quickness, I think is what they said.
Speaker 1: You know, here's an awesome one. Right, So for you,
Speaker 1: how'd they describe you for the combine?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: You do remember the right.
Speaker 2: Up for your backer than fast doesn't have a position.
Speaker 6: You guys have this right up?
Speaker 2: Can you guys research this right up? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: go ahead, keep going. Quicker than fast doesn't have a position,
Speaker 2: played against shitty talent.
Speaker 1: This is depressing. I wasn't going this route. Get it out, though,
Speaker 1: get it over with. They were wrong, They were dead wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah they were.
Speaker 1: But the but they describe things right.
Speaker 2: Like what I'm getting at is white guys smart works hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, ever guy, ever, guy, yeah, ever, guy?
Speaker 1: I love how all white guys are guys you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like blazing speed. Nope, he's an effort guy.
Speaker 1: He's a gym rat, loves the game.
Speaker 4: Is in there, I'm looking here. Ken State staff comments
Speaker 4: on Julian Edelman from Fall two thousand and eight, upper
Speaker 4: echelon worker, knows his physical limitations.
Speaker 1: He likes be, likes to be s what's that mean?
Speaker 2: Bullshit? Wonderfil started podcast yelling at people. We do love
Speaker 2: the bullshit.
Speaker 4: Once the ball in his hands, football instincts will help
Speaker 4: him as a wide receiver, has the feet to play
Speaker 4: defensive back. They're right about that, most competitive guy I've
Speaker 4: ever coached.
Speaker 1: See that seed. But that's pretty good remarks, you know, mindset,
Speaker 1: all right, So there's a lot of things that that
Speaker 1: you can say about an offensive lineman, right, They talk
Speaker 1: about lower body strength, has a good wing span, real
Speaker 1: good punch, great drive off the ball, initial contact, you know,
Speaker 1: drops his hips. I mean, there's all kind of really
Speaker 1: short space quickness.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 1: None of that was said for me, you know, you
Speaker 1: know mine said, I swear to God, basically mine was.
Speaker 1: He's coachable.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: He's coachable. And I don't even know why that would
Speaker 1: even translate to anything that would actually help me get drafted.
Speaker 1: But basically I was coachable and having never seen anything,
Speaker 1: never seen a draft in my life. When I got
Speaker 1: drafted by New England, I thought I was going to
Speaker 1: some other country.
Speaker 2: I didn't know where New England was either. I had
Speaker 2: no clue.
Speaker 1: Man, I wouldn't have been able to throw at dark
Speaker 1: and come close.
Speaker 2: No, I knew because of Madden. I didn't you know
Speaker 2: where Foxborough was though, never heard of it because you
Speaker 2: guys are winning Super Bowl. So I used to play
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 1: Guys and once in a while, yeah became relevant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that was my world.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I I didn't know anything about the game of football,
Speaker 1: you know, blessed to do it. And and honestly, man,
Speaker 1: you know, just just the people we got in those
Speaker 1: early years, especially man like the you know, I think
Speaker 1: back on these guys, these guys like Roman Fighter and
Speaker 1: Grant Williams and so many guys that you know, the
Speaker 1: uh Rodney man, oh man, you know Jermaine Wiggins. You know, gosh, man,
Speaker 1: we had Mike Compton's we had we had all these
Speaker 1: guys that we didn't have our you know, we weren't
Speaker 1: individually announced. You know, that was a big deal. But
Speaker 1: that's because none of us, you know, were above the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I used to always say this man Bill could
Speaker 1: do it the way he did it, and he could
Speaker 1: drive all of our dicks in the dirt every single
Speaker 1: day because we were all in the same pit of despair.
Speaker 1: If if there was somebody that was up on a
Speaker 1: ledge looking down on us, that was a teammate, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked, you know, when you and by the way,
Speaker 1: there were times that he did show some favoritism and
Speaker 1: that's when things got ugly in the locker room defense.
Speaker 2: Defense. But but but if we had a good practice
Speaker 2: on offense, we had a bad practice as a team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like if we dominated the defense, we had a bad practice,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 1: But there were guys that he did put on a
Speaker 1: little bit of a pedestal and it created problems.
Speaker 2: Who like an ad when Ad.
Speaker 1: Got there, you know what I'm saying, Like there was
Speaker 1: there was there was some difference shown in certain ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like he didn't let Tommy off,
Speaker 1: you know, off of anything like he if there was
Speaker 1: an issue, it was coming out in the team meeting
Speaker 1: room full tilt with the number one guy in the league.
Speaker 1: He did not care. But I think that's why. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're all in the same pit together, if you
Speaker 1: don't rally as a group, it gets real.
Speaker 2: Bad, it does. We all dragging our dicks in the
Speaker 2: dirt together. That's a fact. Now you play with Drew
Speaker 2: Brees at Purdue. Any good Drew Brees stories.
Speaker 1: How was Drew love that guy?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Guy has not changed to this day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he has actually got that scar removed. Pernic
Speaker 2: what is it? Pernic? What we named it? We did?
Speaker 1: We actually named it and we had the rookies doing
Speaker 1: rookie skits at Purdue, and one of my favorite ones
Speaker 1: was we talked these guys in the glue and a
Speaker 1: dry eraser to their face to represent Pernic because dude,
Speaker 1: Pernic used to be real hairy. I'm talking like that
Speaker 1: was like a chinchilla. And hey, look, man, God love him, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and Pernik's a good guy too.
Speaker 1: But we had some fun, man, we you know, we
Speaker 1: had We had so much fun at Perdue that I
Speaker 1: think think they still talk about our era going through there,
Speaker 1: and to a degree, I kind of feel the same
Speaker 1: way about our time in New England. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: had so much fun. We did it at such a
Speaker 1: high level. But we you know, after games, we all
Speaker 1: went out together. Oh yeah, you know. But I think
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I look at now and
Speaker 1: I feel kind of sorry for these guys. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a different world. But if you have strong leaders,
Speaker 1: you can still have fun as a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that, but you had to sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Somebody has to plan it, somebody has to take the
Speaker 1: time to organize it and get them together. And I
Speaker 1: don't think guys are as willing to do that today
Speaker 1: as we were back in the day, because everybody's got
Speaker 1: a brand, everybody's got something they want to push, and
Speaker 1: what they don't realize is is that, man, when you
Speaker 1: take the time to do those little things like we
Speaker 1: had the Fat Man Cup Series two thousand go kart
Speaker 1: race where we ruined every go kart. We probably put
Speaker 1: this place out of business. It was all the linemen.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, wrecked them all the time.
Speaker 2: Were you You're the one planning all this stuff, right.
Speaker 1: I mean it was me, but it was also guys
Speaker 1: like Joe andrewsy I mean, you know it was typical
Speaker 1: offensive guys, and we're smarter.
Speaker 2: Than I mean, I say it all the time on TV.
Speaker 1: And and by the way, you remember how great those
Speaker 1: Halloween parties were.
Speaker 2: I didn't go. I was too young, really yeah, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't cool enough yet I didn't get to go
Speaker 2: to the infamous one where Bill came as a butup,
Speaker 2: I mean, a pirate. It was fitting. It was damn fitting.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 1: I can remember this about you, man, I remember you know,
Speaker 1: and I know you had this all the time too,
Speaker 1: but people, you know, whenever you had a break during
Speaker 1: camp or you know whatever, or you're talking to somebody,
Speaker 1: people had ask you, like, man, who's the new dude
Speaker 1: in camp that impresses you? And I remember I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's going to work out, but
Speaker 1: this little Edelman dude, this this kid wants it. He's
Speaker 1: gonna he's going to be a damn good player. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, I don't even know that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I heard that, and I'm like, no, trust me, man,
Speaker 1: this kid's going to be unbelievable. And I I remember
Speaker 1: saying that about you, and people kind of like bulking
Speaker 1: at the idea and then they didn't take long.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, hats off man your career. I wish, I
Speaker 1: wish we played longer together.
Speaker 2: But I did too, because I used to hang out
Speaker 2: with lining guys a little bit. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I'd go hang out with you guys. You guys like
Speaker 2: I was a young player, and Thanksgivings and and you know,
Speaker 2: holiday stuff. You guys always invited me over, and I'd
Speaker 2: always go over the house. And you guys just like
Speaker 2: I used to call you big Bear goals, you know.
Speaker 2: And I was a little gipper, little gipper, you know,
Speaker 2: and he always you know, Matt was a fucking superstar
Speaker 2: already at the time. And you know, when you're a
Speaker 2: young guy and you have one of your premier players
Speaker 2: on the team, that's like putting his arm around you.
Speaker 2: Like that gives a younger guy so much confidence and
Speaker 2: like that sense of belonging, you know, which you don't
Speaker 2: feel that a lot were you on nine? I was nine.
Speaker 2: That's right, Your Tommy came back, you know.
Speaker 1: You know what I remember, man, I stuck around till eleven.
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember you told me in the shower. You
Speaker 2: told me in the shower, I go because I didn't
Speaker 2: play that much in the Super Bowl, and I remember
Speaker 2: I go up and I'd always ask you after games, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you come out healthy, man, good You're like, I'm done, bubs,
Speaker 2: or you shaid I'm done. I retire right in the shower,
Speaker 2: Remember that I do? You know what? Man?
Speaker 1: With a year of my contract. The only thing I
Speaker 1: was thinking about at that time was it was probably
Speaker 1: the best season I had in my career. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: didn't win when it mattered the most, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: you know, that's football, right, But to me, it was like, man,
Speaker 1: and my daughter was closer to being out of my
Speaker 1: home than in my home Jesus. And the realization at
Speaker 1: that time was, you know what's like what is truly
Speaker 1: most important? I mean, look, I was having fun. I
Speaker 1: always had fun, but it was there was a cultural
Speaker 1: shift my last few years, right. So when you came
Speaker 1: in to know nine, that's when I started to sense
Speaker 1: that guys like I don't know. Remember I used to
Speaker 1: walk through the locker room and not guys phones out
Speaker 1: of their hand and be like, hey man, you know
Speaker 1: that guy right next to you, like.
Speaker 2: You're number thirty, he's thirty one.
Speaker 1: And you guys should talk to each other.
Speaker 2: This is really awesome, Like.
Speaker 1: This would be really cool. Look at you guys, Look
Speaker 1: at you guys. There was there was a shift in
Speaker 1: how we did things. It was hard to get guys
Speaker 1: to do stuff off the field together, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I started to get a little jaded
Speaker 1: by It's like, you put effort into it, and you
Speaker 1: want these guys to come out and do things. And
Speaker 1: I think looking back on them, man, I've had guys
Speaker 1: come to me and be like, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I missed the most is is just being around guys
Speaker 1: I trust. And that's a big part of leaving the
Speaker 1: game too, right, you know all the fun moments, all
Speaker 1: the winning, you know, even the losing, you know, the
Speaker 1: crazy moments, getting a jack whatever. I loved all the craziness.
Speaker 1: And I love the fights.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Man, I missed that the most. And it's hard to
Speaker 1: do that in the real world, Like it just.
Speaker 2: Doesn't work real well, you guys tried. That was it?
Speaker 2: The at the casino? Yeah? At the casino? Yeah, that
Speaker 2: whole that was a big lawsuit. You know what I
Speaker 2: love about that one?
Speaker 1: They put You know how we were always playing cards
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Yeah, we play Yuker and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. They took a picture and blurred out the
Speaker 1: lockers in the background and put that as the headline picture,
Speaker 1: like it was me at a casino, but it was me
Speaker 1: in the locker room, Like I knew where the picture
Speaker 1: came from.
Speaker 2: They're so sneaky, sneaky, so sneaky. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: after this quick break. Let's go back into time. This
Speaker 2: is a segment where we go back around where the
Speaker 2: game took place. December twenty sixth, twenty ten. We talked
Speaker 2: a little bit about pop culture. Number one movie was
Speaker 2: Little Fuckers. Remember that? You watch a movie I did? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Little near action in a comedy. Number one
Speaker 2: song was Fireworks by Katy perry Man. I remember this shit,
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem that long ago. Was that?
Speaker 1: Did she do that one when she was on the
Speaker 1: elephant for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Oh? Was that like this?
Speaker 4: It might have been. Let me double check on that.
Speaker 1: I remember that whole like a lot of pyate technics
Speaker 1: and a giant elephant.
Speaker 2: Remember that. I don't for the halftime show, right?
Speaker 3: It was the shark plushy things.
Speaker 2: Left Shark, Yeah, I remember, I don't.
Speaker 3: When Shark was animated and whin Shark was like kind
Speaker 3: of dead.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that weird Around this time December nineteenth,
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles beat the New York Jets in the
Speaker 2: Miracle at the meadow Lands. You know how many times
Speaker 2: you watch that goddamn film where you're not supposed to
Speaker 2: kick it to fucking DeShawn Jackson. Oh my god, how
Speaker 2: many times you watch this? After this it's no look,
Speaker 2: Assho'll just pump the fucking ball out of bounds.
Speaker 1: There's certain plays that he would bring up five years
Speaker 1: after the fact.
Speaker 2: Every year we went over the goddamn free kick, oh
Speaker 2: every Friday, and it hadn't been used since nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 2: the one where you fair catch a punt and you
Speaker 2: get to line up and have a free kick at
Speaker 2: the end of half.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, but there's a lot of things like that, though.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can dig up a lot of things
Speaker 1: that were brought up over and over again, practiced even
Speaker 1: ad nauseum, and then executed at some point, which kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. No, I mean two point play, that two
Speaker 1: point play.
Speaker 2: We hadn't which which two point it was? No, it
Speaker 2: was it was ful because it was k Falk's two
Speaker 2: point play where Tom would go yes, that's right, and
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: It was just like an up the gut kind of
Speaker 1: a misdirection.
Speaker 2: They throw the fade light in the box, you run
Speaker 2: the Kevin Falk. We use that for like ten years. Uh.
Speaker 2: December fourteenth, hul Cogan marries his second wife, Jennifer McDaniel.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Hulk, dude, Hogan still looks good?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: Is he still looking good?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen in a minute. Yeah, down Florida.
Speaker 2: You haven't aged a bit. Thank you, you look good.
Speaker 2: It's a lot gosh, you look good. Better look gray,
Speaker 2: I'm gray as fuck.
Speaker 1: You get you're getting there. But that's it's distinguished though.
Speaker 2: I like whatever Tron legacy, the Fight, True Grit Love
Speaker 2: and other drug drugs. I remember that was at the
Speaker 2: Gentle Hall Jalan Hall about VIAGRAA yep, that was a
Speaker 2: good one. Good one. We're all popping off in the
Speaker 2: box office.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Irish, Mickey Ward and the fighter.
Speaker 2: Baby you're you ever hangout Mick I have man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He did a bunch of charity stuff. I did it
Speaker 2: my first charity event. It was with him in the
Speaker 2: drop drop Kick Murphy's Great, Great, the.
Speaker 4: Most Boston event ever.
Speaker 2: Right right hard.
Speaker 1: You know, Brian Fox painted Mickey Ward for the opener
Speaker 1: for that movie. He did like the thing for the premiere.
Speaker 1: I didn't, and my daughter got to paint on that.
Speaker 1: Her breaststrokes were still on it. We went to a
Speaker 1: studio and my daughter was really into art at the time,
Speaker 1: and b Fox like, yeah, bringer over. By the way,
Speaker 1: he's one of the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any of his stuff
Speaker 1: in here, but he's the best in.
Speaker 2: The sports world. Twenty ten Super Bowl champions were the Packers.
Speaker 2: NFL MVP was Tom Brady. We heard the stat anytime
Speaker 2: a team had an MVP, they never won the remember that.
Speaker 1: And honestly, by the way, it kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 1: I never even heard that before he brought that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like fifteen twenty years drop you guys
Speaker 2: beat that Packers team this year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty ten, it would have been at their place, right, No,
Speaker 1: we on the.
Speaker 4: Road, Yeah, no, Green Bay came to July thirty week fifteen.
Speaker 2: We beat him.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: We were good this year. We were fourteen to two
Speaker 2: this year, won't we Yep?
Speaker 4: Jesus heck of a team.
Speaker 2: Giants won the World Series. Can you tell us about
Speaker 2: the Tiger scandal? Do you have any stories about that?
Speaker 2: I remember Bill giving the forty five minute presentation on
Speaker 2: why Tiger Woods is Tiger Woods. I do remember that.
Speaker 2: And then Randy as soon as it broke, went out
Speaker 2: to practice and was like, hey boo, hey boo, how
Speaker 2: about Tiger fucking watch down. Remember that. I do remember
Speaker 2: that that. I do remember that, just trolling his whistle,
Speaker 2: that fucking asshole.
Speaker 1: Oh my god's the best.
Speaker 2: And Randy never he was never with the offense. You know,
Speaker 2: he's me with will Fork on the defensive side, stretching,
Speaker 2: not really stretching, just talking.
Speaker 1: He was always the last guy in the meeting room too,
Speaker 1: for the morning meeting. You remember that, Like I'm talking
Speaker 1: like as Bill was walking in, the door was just
Speaker 1: closing behind Randy too, And I'm like, damn, man, because.
Speaker 6: If you were half a second late, that was perro
Speaker 6: de duct.
Speaker 2: I'm talking if the door was shut and you.
Speaker 6: Weren't in your seat and Bill walked.
Speaker 1: In there, it's I mean, that was a bad feeling, terrible,
Speaker 1: really bad feeling. And I remember one time I had
Speaker 1: the Randy Moss mask. I put my sweats on, I
Speaker 1: got I got his extra pair of sweats with his
Speaker 1: number which didn't fit real well, and I sat in
Speaker 1: his seat. Remember how I always just sit with his
Speaker 1: big ass legs way back and backing this thing with
Speaker 1: his hood up. And dude, when you have that stuff on,
Speaker 1: you looked just like him, Like that mask was amazing.
Speaker 1: And so when he walked in, I just stood up,
Speaker 1: was like straight cast little homie, you know I do.
Speaker 2: I remember Bill was just walking into and.
Speaker 1: He's looking at me like, you know, Randy, like damn,
Speaker 1: I come on, you're an idiot.
Speaker 2: Jack sent the stage for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 4: This was this was back when the Bills were the
Speaker 4: Bills that that we know in love. The Little Brothers
Speaker 4: just got the ship kicked out of him. Record four
Speaker 4: and twelve, first year of the illustrious chan Gaily Era
Speaker 4: drafted C. J. Spiller ninth overall. He was a rookie.
Speaker 4: This year started the year oh and eighth eight.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: This was the year Marshawn Lynch got traded to Seattle.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 4: And this was around the time that remember there was
Speaker 4: talking the Bills moving to Toronto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Buffalo move played a home game there.
Speaker 4: Played a home game in Week nine against the Bears,
Speaker 4: lost up in Toronto. This was the year of Fitzmagic.
Speaker 4: Brian Brohm, Trent Edwards all made starts for the Bills
Speaker 4: this year. The lone pro bowler was Kyle Williams, the
Speaker 4: defensive tackles. He was a beast.
Speaker 2: We played for a long time time time. Man.
Speaker 4: This was a team with some other dudes of like
Speaker 4: Roscoe Parish, Lee Evans, le Otis mcelvin. Speaking of another
Speaker 4: classic Bills Stevie Johnson, Fred Jackson was a beast this year, Johnson,
Speaker 4: But yeah, not a not a great Bills team four
Speaker 4: and twelve, yep, finished fourth in the.
Speaker 2: Fcast Later, how'd you feel about the Bills back in
Speaker 2: these days?
Speaker 1: God, I love beating them up. It was you know
Speaker 1: what it was? It was one of those things where
Speaker 1: on the road loved playing in Buffalo, loved it. I
Speaker 1: love the atmosphere you roll in there. First of all,
Speaker 1: they're the kind of fans that they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: piss on your van on the bus as it rolls by,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna high five you when it's a good game.
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean like they're a true football fan.
Speaker 1: They love their bills, love them no matter what, hell
Speaker 1: or high water man, they're gonna be there. They're gonna
Speaker 1: support them. They're burning trash canded.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's not like when you're in Oakland and you
Speaker 1: see like the chaos like Mad Max meets you know, fandom.
Speaker 1: It's like, like that's a crazy scene. But those guys
Speaker 1: do get it on, but they're doing crazy stuff. I
Speaker 1: remember watching the dude like belly dive onto a table
Speaker 1: full of beers. I'm like, that's redneck.
Speaker 2: There we go, we go get them, buddy. I'd never
Speaker 2: been flipped off by such a crazy age group, different
Speaker 2: from like six year olds to like ninety five year
Speaker 2: old women. Yeah, after you go in, you whoop their
Speaker 2: ass and old orchard. It's the best. Man. I remember you,
Speaker 2: didn't you steal a fucking used to steal.
Speaker 1: The amazing memory you have the amazing memory.
Speaker 2: You used to steal the stools.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, I'm not stealing anything from you,
Speaker 1: but I have been looking and I did. And by
Speaker 1: the way, that stool is in my house right now.
Speaker 1: My kids use it all the time to get on
Speaker 1: this like counters and that that stool was cool because
Speaker 1: it was it was very buffalo like. It wasn't real ornate.
Speaker 1: It was nice and square. It was it was it
Speaker 1: has to be. I'm gonna say, quarters on white Oak
Speaker 1: is where I'm going. Quarter Oak, yep. And it's it's real.
Speaker 1: It's real beefy. So it wasn't ornate in any way,
Speaker 1: but very solid, very firm, very heavy, has a big
Speaker 1: round top to it, and in the center has a
Speaker 1: recessed brass plate with the number seventy two. And I
Speaker 1: remember I searched all through the locker room to find
Speaker 1: the right one and put it in my equipment bag.
Speaker 4: I remember you from the visiting locker room.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I try to steal something from every busy.
Speaker 1: You know, my my most favorite stool is k C.
Speaker 2: You still you stole stools.
Speaker 1: From everywhere, from almost every place we went to. But
Speaker 1: but but by the way, you know this, not every
Speaker 1: very few. I bet you none of them today. They yeah,
Speaker 1: they did the building, so we were. It was the
Speaker 1: last year of the old Arrowhead Stadium and they had
Speaker 1: now this is probably courtssot white Oak too. But it
Speaker 1: was stained and it was nice and it was turned
Speaker 1: on the lathe. All the legs were real nice and
Speaker 1: it has the arrowhead with the KC logo and in No.
Speaker 1: Seventy two.
Speaker 2: But it's that's awesome. Yeah, I remember, I remember you
Speaker 2: were trying to put that thing in your bag or something.
Speaker 2: I got it. It was it, bros. Remember was that
Speaker 2: the old equipment guys like we can't do.
Speaker 1: This or something like guess you can?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that the was that the move to shove it
Speaker 4: in the Duffel bag and get out of there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because they're huge, right, because they got it. You get
Speaker 1: all your pads and all your stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, what's your favorite thing you stole from another stadium?
Speaker 1: Like, listen, is there statue of limitations? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to jail on your podcast.
Speaker 2: Like that's double Jeopardy, Bro, it's gone.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, it can't be tried twice,
Speaker 1: There's no way. Gosh, man, the best thing ever? Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, so some of my favorite stuff that I
Speaker 1: have hanging now. We just moved down to Chapatchet, Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: and in the move I found some stuff that I'd
Speaker 1: ganged from the Super Bowls. So again I was always
Speaker 1: the first guy off the field. Right, It was like
Speaker 1: my goal to get to the bar as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: Barl Lewis baby, and.
Speaker 1: I would rip down all these banners. I remember just
Speaker 1: jumping up and just running tintingdingdingding thing, wadding it up.
Speaker 2: Throwing it. And I have all these really.
Speaker 1: Awesome banners from the Super Bowl eras, like the ones
Speaker 1: that hang in the hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we get to the hotel, I couldn't stop
Speaker 1: myself there either. They'd be like hanging off like a
Speaker 1: big atrium and I'd find my way up in there like.
Speaker 2: Sink sink, sink, sink sink. Can we just get it?
Speaker 2: What is your craziest prank that you did as a
Speaker 2: New England Patriot?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I would say probably the best one that
Speaker 1: I did on team. I mean the best one I've
Speaker 1: done period was having some guys pulled off their private jet.
Speaker 1: That was that was one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2: Man, what do you mean? I mean?
Speaker 1: And by the way, I did have a guy and
Speaker 1: you can look this one up. I just did a
Speaker 1: full video on it. I had a guy kill a
Speaker 1: turkey and he thought it was the world record albiono
Speaker 1: Osiola and ossiole is only found in Florida. It's a
Speaker 1: version of a turkey, right, it's a subspecies. And he
Speaker 1: went hunting with me, but what he actually killed was
Speaker 1: a broad breasted white turkey that was farm raised and
Speaker 1: like some like literally like a double wide in some
Speaker 1: guy's backyard, and I just put it out in the
Speaker 1: woods and he shot it, and he snuck up on it.
Speaker 1: I told him that if you squat down like a
Speaker 1: Suma wrestler and carry a fake turkey tail fan, that
Speaker 1: you can walk right up on him, which you cannot
Speaker 1: do that. But he did it, and he practiced it
Speaker 1: for a while and it's one of the funniest things ever.
Speaker 2: I have it on video.
Speaker 1: Like, by the way, I was right next to him
Speaker 1: when he shot it, but he had no idea. It
Speaker 1: was in a full gilly suit in a palmeadow bush
Speaker 1: snake almost bit me. And when he sneaks up on it,
Speaker 1: I swear to God, when the turkey saw him, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, thank God.
Speaker 2: There's a human. I've been out here in a while,
Speaker 2: Like what the hell?
Speaker 1: Like he came from like literally a guy's backyard, and
Speaker 1: so he shoots and misses him and the bird. He
Speaker 1: was so fat he could barely walk forty four pounds, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: that's twice as big as any bird. And he started
Speaker 1: walking my way. I'm like this how I die being
Speaker 1: a dumbass.
Speaker 2: This is how I die?
Speaker 1: And thank god he didn't shoot me. But anyway, my
Speaker 1: brother calls him as the head of Florida Game and Fish.
Speaker 1: I made up two hundred copies of a magazine where
Speaker 1: he's on the cover, and he thought, like, I'm dead serious, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean, I will put a lot of effort into this.
Speaker 1: A year later, he gets up on stage at the
Speaker 1: shootout where we sold the Hunt to begin with, and
Speaker 1: I said, Jamie, you got to come up here and
Speaker 1: help me sell this thing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's going to go for big money. You
Speaker 1: just shot that. And so he gets up and he's
Speaker 1: talking about how he killed the Moby Dick of Turkey.
Speaker 2: He's the Tom Brady of Turkey Hunt. I got all
Speaker 2: on video.
Speaker 1: I had my guys there wearing Florida Game and Fish
Speaker 1: collared shirts that I had made up because they were
Speaker 1: there to get content for their website because they're getting
Speaker 1: ready to launch it. They brought two hundred advanced copies
Speaker 1: of the magazine. He's signing the magazines for people at
Speaker 1: the event, like, you can't make this stuff up right.
Speaker 1: He had it mounted, a farm raised bird mounted, so
Speaker 1: up on stage, he's talking about all this stuff on
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady of Turkey Hunting, I killed the moby
Speaker 1: Dick of Turkey and then I said, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: we actually have this on film?
Speaker 2: Why we roll it?
Speaker 1: And in front of five hundred people A year later
Speaker 1: he finds out it shows me getting the bird, and
Speaker 1: he's on stage like, are you serious? Like all this
Speaker 1: realization it's one of the greatest videos.
Speaker 2: You'll ever watch. Man.
Speaker 1: We laughed so hard.
Speaker 2: Didn't you do a prank on one of our tight ends?
Speaker 2: And he got real bad? Almost Oh did I on
Speaker 2: a tight end? Didn't you move her into his car
Speaker 2: or something? He got Superman?
Speaker 1: Oh oh he was fired up. Well no, you know why?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, hold on, that that wasn't no, that
Speaker 1: wasn't Hernandez. That was that was his his counterpart in Florida.
Speaker 1: Uh lineback bike spikes. That's exactly who that was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But by the way, Hernandaz and I did not get
Speaker 1: off on the right foot because I was the guy
Speaker 1: I had a hoghead in my in my truck.
Speaker 2: That was weird.
Speaker 1: And uh uh you remember you remember Donald Duck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put a duck in his locker.
Speaker 1: I did put duck.
Speaker 6: And by the way, for two days, he had no
Speaker 6: idea it was a live.
Speaker 2: Duck, not a dead duck. I would never do that.
Speaker 2: A live duck, live duck.
Speaker 1: And it was quacking and everything else, and he must
Speaker 1: have thought it was just like us messing around with him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what point is he?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: The thing needed water that goes terrible. Anyway, he took
Speaker 1: it home. By the way, the duck is still alive.
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that, like Duck's fine. Don't don't
Speaker 1: think ducks and.
Speaker 2: Trust is David Donald. His name was not Donald Duck.
Speaker 2: But we did say that.
Speaker 1: We used to get him all those little ducks and
Speaker 1: they have a whole bunch of them, like one looks
Speaker 1: like a ballerina and you know, like a little one. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I put it and then somebody was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know he's the guy that got busted smoking weed
Speaker 1: at Florida State.
Speaker 2: I'm like, sweet or Florida. I'm like this is awesome.
Speaker 1: So I took his hogshead and I put it in there,
Speaker 1: and I wrote up a piece of paper, painted it
Speaker 1: red on one end, and I stuck it in the
Speaker 1: hog's mouth, and I said, hey, welcome to the team.
Speaker 1: It's time to go hog wild. And I thought that
Speaker 1: was funny. I found out when he walked in he
Speaker 1: was not impressed. And I was like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: a dick. Got a dick, So anyway, neither here nor there, spikes.
Speaker 1: I watched him pull up a Patriot place and get
Speaker 1: out of his his his whatever the car was, and
Speaker 1: he had a handicap thing that he put in his windshield,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, mother trucker, Like, by the way, that
Speaker 1: is a total dick.
Speaker 2: MAE can't do that. You can't do that. Can't do that,
Speaker 2: player lot.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's not like he blends in.
Speaker 1: He he was wearing like a full like mink fur
Speaker 1: coat or something. I don't know, like he did the
Speaker 1: kind of he was kind of a pimp kind of he.
Speaker 2: Kind of brought to the craft way.
Speaker 1: Yes, like I don't know where he hired her, but
Speaker 1: that was some crazy stuff. So when I saw that,
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, that can't happen. And it was a
Speaker 1: part of me being an old timer. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: just not right. So I stole his car. I still
Speaker 1: have that. I still have the handicap sign that he
Speaker 1: put in. It's in my room.
Speaker 2: Where did you put the car?
Speaker 1: I put it over by the bubble And he was
Speaker 1: so like he wanted the smartest one out there. He
Speaker 1: was so dumb he could not figure out. He came
Speaker 1: to me and was like, did you take my car?
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, and he's like all right. And like
Speaker 1: three days later, I'm like, has the guy got his car?
Speaker 2: They're like nah, huh. Like days and days.
Speaker 1: Go by, I'm like, oh, this guy's troubled.
Speaker 2: Very troubled. Jaggie break down These New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: Oh man, this was a heck of a year for
Speaker 4: the Pats. Fourteen and two, best record in the league,
Speaker 4: won eleven of the last twelve games, coming off a
Speaker 4: season when we went ten and six. Lost Dan P's
Speaker 4: in the offseason, DC.
Speaker 2: And fucking P's and that blaze zero is right. Randy
Speaker 2: ranild them all day long about that. Yes, every walk
Speaker 2: through in the started practice, Randy walk out Dean P's
Speaker 2: andw fucking Blade zero lost me a super Bowl ring.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Randy, Randy was traded to Minnesota this October.
Speaker 4: Also in October, Dion Branch came back. This was the
Speaker 4: year Tom Brady won MVP. As we talked about earlier, Jules,
Speaker 4: this was your second season.
Speaker 2: When they traded Randy, I thought I was gonna get
Speaker 2: some more opportunity. I was like, yeah, it's my shot,
Speaker 2: it's my shot. Two days later we bring a Branch.
Speaker 2: Didn't sniffed offensive field yet, but dirty the best.
Speaker 4: A lot of Pro bowlers on this team, to Tom West,
Speaker 4: Matt Logan, Mankins, Big, Vince Mayo, mccordy, Brandon, Meriweather, Vrabel
Speaker 4: was on this team. I mean, this was a This
Speaker 4: was a heck of a Patriots team.
Speaker 2: Who was your biggest bash bro was it? But Manx
Speaker 2: Logan was a fucking the best man. I tell you what.
Speaker 1: You remember his hands, Yeah, they're like five hens, they
Speaker 1: are like five and his wrist articulates in some weird
Speaker 1: snake like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know it's it's uh, that's right.
Speaker 1: He grab and you remember when he did the old uppercut.
Speaker 1: Remember when he got when he got kicked out. He
Speaker 1: punched some dude in the nuts. It was awesome, so
Speaker 1: great anyway, And and Logan wasn't dirty ever, but that
Speaker 1: dude played with an edge. And I can, I can
Speaker 1: honestly say that we we had so much fun as
Speaker 1: a unit, Like whether it was Logan or you know,
Speaker 1: Sea Bass or Cope, and I mean all the guys
Speaker 1: we had. Steve I loved legend.
Speaker 2: You remember the Four Locos. Remember he when they banned
Speaker 2: the Four Locos, he bought a crate of it and
Speaker 2: had it in his house.
Speaker 1: I saw him drink six in one night. That you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be alive. No, you shouldn't like one is a
Speaker 1: bad idea, two is kind of stupid.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 1: He was indestructible, man.
Speaker 2: No, Steve was a monster. He could burly lift his
Speaker 2: arm and he was fucking playing. Remember that he'd have.
Speaker 1: Those trouble man you know he he was the only
Speaker 1: guy that could get knocked down and get back up
Speaker 1: and still be blocking this guy. Nothing he did technique
Speaker 1: wise was what Scar wont. And finally Scar was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Steve, You're winning, So I'm just you're good.
Speaker 2: Just do what you do.
Speaker 1: I remember one time we had a party at Ross
Speaker 1: Hawk Seigin's and he got lost in the woods and
Speaker 1: he woke up and he had like seven hundred mosquito
Speaker 1: bites on him because he was like literally in the woods.
Speaker 1: And the next day, like that day he woke up,
Speaker 1: we had to go in for our physical, our off
Speaker 1: season physical, and he shows up and we're all wondering, like, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't know what happened to him. We kind of
Speaker 1: thought maybe he made his way home, but he lived
Speaker 1: a long way from there and his car was still there,
Speaker 1: so like, we know what, Well, he passed out of
Speaker 1: the woods. And when he showed up, he's on the
Speaker 1: table and they're doing the e KG you know they
Speaker 1: start with that. Yeah, and he's got leaves stuck to
Speaker 1: him and random spots and welts all over his body.
Speaker 2: Fucking Neil. Neil was awesome. I went to his house
Speaker 2: in San Diego when we went out there.
Speaker 1: Remember we went out there, Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And he did a lot for Bakersfield. He loved that
Speaker 2: wrestling community. That guy was. I mean, he was a
Speaker 2: pro wrestler. He beat brock lessener As in the World Championships.
Speaker 2: I think he did.
Speaker 1: I think he won the collegiate title heavyweight, the Greco Roman,
Speaker 1: and the freestyle all in the same year. And I
Speaker 1: think he was the first guy to ever do that.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he was. He was a bad man, bad
Speaker 2: man yep. Now what makes Dante's Scarnekio such a great coach?
Speaker 1: First of all, it's a combination, like if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about an angry, angry individual, just mix. I'm
Speaker 1: dead serious, man, And you don't see this very often
Speaker 1: when Italians and Mexicans mate, you get a Dante Scarneki
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like, like there's something in there, man,
Speaker 1: because like very driven, very like like fiery chip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know you like when you have that.
Speaker 1: It's so it's kind of like the Allian intensity, right
Speaker 1: like that like you know, kind of like rip your
Speaker 1: heart out like mafia kind of thing with like a
Speaker 1: Mexican like like crazy like a like a like a
Speaker 1: like a little uh the yap and dog, you know,
Speaker 1: like because he was he wasn't big, but big guy
Speaker 1: has definitely feared.
Speaker 2: Him, right Oh. He scared people.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, like and he coached like some of the
Speaker 1: biggest monsters out there, and we were all like, yep,
Speaker 1: we got your coach. We're in task Master a military background,
Speaker 1: right eop. Coach forever goes goes all the way back
Speaker 1: to like the you know, the beginning was at SMU
Speaker 1: when they got the.
Speaker 2: Death penalty there, and then he went to EUOP. Right, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: And was that like there's a bunch of dudes that
Speaker 2: came from EUOP.
Speaker 1: He coached. By the way, he was in a made
Speaker 1: for TV movie. I don't know if you know this
Speaker 1: or not, and there is evidence of it. Actually, I
Speaker 1: had the video we played at one time in our
Speaker 1: meeting room and it was the Pittsburgh and the Steeler Kid. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can look this up, Pittsburgh and the Steeler Kid.
Speaker 1: And it was like a Monday Night special back when
Speaker 1: like Monday Night specials were a big deal, and it
Speaker 1: had mean Joe Green and all these other guys, and
Speaker 1: Dante was a coach, played a good role, and I remember,
Speaker 1: like I forget what his lines were, but I used
Speaker 1: to say him to him like randomly. Of course, like
Speaker 1: nobody knew that this movie existed, and he knew it,
Speaker 1: but he knew, but uh no, he was you know what, man,
Speaker 1: Nobody worked harder than him on the staff I mean
Speaker 1: a lot worked as hard, I think, but nobody worked
Speaker 1: harder than him. He was the first one in the building,
Speaker 1: first inn, last out, three am. You get there, and
Speaker 1: he go to bat for us too, man like like
Speaker 1: we butted heads, like you know, we went at it,
Speaker 1: but always had a healthy respect for him because if
Speaker 1: there were things in that game plan, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it was the coordinator's idea or Bill's idea, and Dante
Speaker 1: looked at it and said, yeah, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: He's not going to just hang us out and be like, look,
Speaker 1: this is what they want, so we gotta do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go there and.
Speaker 2: Be like, nah, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 2: think that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like on other staffs, man,
Speaker 1: I was on one staff my entire career. But I
Speaker 1: can tell you one thing. You know, when we went
Speaker 1: into our openers, I mean, hell, if if I had
Speaker 1: a problem, I'm sure you even said things at times
Speaker 1: right like like no, I don't I don't think we
Speaker 1: should run that earlier, or I'm not feeling that one,
Speaker 1: And there was input like that. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: probably normal in every situation.
Speaker 2: No what impress me with coach Scarr and I saw
Speaker 2: it when we had a different line coach when he
Speaker 2: took a year away, remember that he left for a
Speaker 2: year or something. Scar could break down the actual technique
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't be nice how he would save the
Speaker 2: line like you.
Speaker 8: Fat fucked you drop your left leg and but like
Speaker 8: he would tell you what to do, oh yeah, which
Speaker 8: other guys like that's not unacceptable or you can't do this.
Speaker 2: He would literally say, you know, you gotta do this
Speaker 2: drop and that's all about. He would tell you what
Speaker 2: you had to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'd tell you where you stood. He'd tell
Speaker 1: you how bad you sucked. I mean, listen to your ass.
Speaker 2: Eys.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see when I did the Dante Scarnaki
Speaker 1: a motherfucking instructional video how to motherfuck people? In the submission,
Speaker 1: no oh, explain it unbelievable. So rookies were doing a
Speaker 1: terrible job with their rookie skits one year, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we got to do something make him laugh. So I
Speaker 1: brought my stuff because I lived in Foxborough, and you know,
Speaker 1: we stayed the residence in You're trapped in that hotel
Speaker 1: for a month during training camp. So I brought my
Speaker 1: film equipment in and we sat there in the residence
Speaker 1: in and shot this thing with the rookies and I
Speaker 1: directed it. And it was basically like if you watch
Speaker 1: like one of those not an infomercial, but like where
Speaker 1: they're selling things on TV, you know, like, so it
Speaker 1: was like, you want to learn. It started out with
Speaker 1: one of the rookies and I can't remember this kid's name.
Speaker 2: He was a lineman.
Speaker 1: You want to learn how to motherfuck people? Are you
Speaker 1: tired of being taken advantage of as a leader? Do
Speaker 1: you want to get your people just get in line?
Speaker 1: Are you not being as productive because you know you
Speaker 1: could be, Well, here's your chance. Dante Scarneki has padded
Speaker 1: system designed the motherfuck Everybody into submission. And it was
Speaker 1: amazing because I wrote down every one of his sayings
Speaker 1: for years and years. I always had a notepad, like
Speaker 1: if I was awake it was just to do something
Speaker 1: stupid like that. And so I had every one of
Speaker 1: his sayings and we had a scrolling list and it
Speaker 1: was playing this it was playing the song.
Speaker 2: I thought, this was awesome.
Speaker 1: I will be off other figure, put your tiny hand
Speaker 1: in mind.
Speaker 2: You know that song yes, and it's playing in the background.
Speaker 2: I thought that was so awesome.
Speaker 1: It was like little things that I found funny, probably
Speaker 1: if nobody else did, but it's like and then I
Speaker 1: had Ryan O'Callaghan was the voiceover for You'll Learn the classics,
Speaker 1: like if you don't think that shit sucks, you can
Speaker 1: go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: And it just kept listening all these classics.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, assiys. He loved to call people assiys, You're
Speaker 1: not worth hammered shit. Remember him saying that that's not
Speaker 1: worth hammered shit. If you think that shit's the way
Speaker 1: to go with, then you can go. I mean like it, like,
Speaker 1: just kept listening them all the way down. And then
Speaker 1: what I thought was a stroke of genius. I had
Speaker 1: Steve Neil and myself. We sat in front of you know,
Speaker 1: they had the curtains at the residence in and we
Speaker 1: were on the first floor, so there was a light
Speaker 1: outside but it was dark, and so I shot and
Speaker 1: it was a silhouette, so it was like Tony the Tiger.
Speaker 1: You could just see like our silhouette. And we sat
Speaker 1: there and made it look like we were talking, but
Speaker 1: we made the rookies say or no, we said it,
Speaker 1: and we had the rookies be the silhouette, and I
Speaker 1: would be like Steve's like, I've been in Dante's Scarnekia's
Speaker 1: motherfucking system for four years now, and I can honestly
Speaker 1: tell you it works. That guy can really fuck you,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's like giving a testimonial, and then
Speaker 1: there's another guy giving a testimony, so we play that
Speaker 1: for the rookie skits. I turn around to see Dante's expression,
Speaker 1: and he's just like stone cold, just like looking at
Speaker 1: the screen, no emotion. I look over Bill Bill's life
Speaker 1: because you know how much Bill loved the rookie skits,
Speaker 1: loved him.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, talking about him last night at the roast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Ernie Adams story, we had him out here, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what.
Speaker 1: I knew that. Somebody told me that you had him here,
Speaker 1: and I have to go watch it because I'm sure
Speaker 1: exactly say way love Ernie.
Speaker 2: I love Ernie. Oh my gosh. By the way, genius
Speaker 2: in the markets back in the day. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: asked him like what I used to ask him all
Speaker 2: the time. Everyone heard the rumors that he made Bill
Speaker 2: a bunch of money in the market or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on a trading floor. Man, that guy
Speaker 1: was in it. You know, commodity is the whole nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to dinner with We went to dinner
Speaker 4: and picked his brain about afterwards.
Speaker 2: What was the tip? He? I remember one investing what
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 1: Yes, by the way, that's some of the best advice
Speaker 1: in the that that truly is the key right there.
Speaker 4: And then he said, if you wouldn't buy the whole company,
Speaker 4: don't buy a single share.
Speaker 2: Wow, which that was pretty good. Nie, good words.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna tell you my favorite Ernie Adams moment
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 2: And this is all I think. I remember where this
Speaker 2: is going. Go ahead at practice? The plane.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, did you guys talk about that?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, how did you not talk about because I
Speaker 2: wasn't there. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So this is so amazing. So our practice fields are
Speaker 1: right outside the stadium and we have this upper field
Speaker 1: and we're at practice and there is a plane coming
Speaker 1: over and I'm sure it's going to one of the
Speaker 1: air bases, right, but it's like a C one And
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. We can see it coming. Actually,
Speaker 1: we can feel it coming. And I remember looking and
Speaker 1: I'm like oh, and I can see the pilot's expression
Speaker 1: on his face like I'm not just saying that, man,
Speaker 1: Like I can still see it to this day. And
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, that's going to hit right where I'm
Speaker 1: standing because.
Speaker 2: The angle it was coming at it looked like it was.
Speaker 1: It definitely blown up the stadium for sure, man. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. And by the way, everybody stops,
Speaker 1: like nobody stops during practice. It wasn't like their fans
Speaker 1: were there. It wasn't during training camp. This like during
Speaker 1: the season. And these two nut sacks, and they probably
Speaker 1: got demoted big time, dude, because I know they got
Speaker 1: in trouble for doing this shit. They were like buzzing
Speaker 1: a tower, you know, yeah, permission, go ahead, Maverick. And
Speaker 1: here they come. And as I'm watching this, my dumb
Speaker 1: ass should have been doing what Ernie was doing, because
Speaker 1: the only smart guy on that entire field was Ernie.
Speaker 1: And he's running, by the way, I never saw Ernie
Speaker 1: run like this. He's running mock five away from the danger.
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking at the time, like he's the
Speaker 1: only smart one. I'm definitely dying.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely dying.
Speaker 1: And that shit is still in my head I can
Speaker 1: still see him running. I mean the clipboard went flying.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, dude, He's the only single person
Speaker 1: that ran away from danger. And that dude buzzes the
Speaker 1: tower and then when he cleared the stadium, we were
Speaker 1: all like, oh. And then I thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: hit that big water tank. Yeah, and dude, he banked
Speaker 1: right along. And that water tank is what, I don't know,
Speaker 1: forty feet off the ground. It's not like it's one
Speaker 1: thousand feet. He's on the surface and didn't die. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Ernie Adams was the only one that ran away from it.
Speaker 2: Fuck Erny genius. I love that guy. Jesus we had
Speaker 2: him so when we played I don't know if we
Speaker 2: talked about on the on the episode, We're playing the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and we were at I think Houston, and
Speaker 2: there was like a rim around the football field, like
Speaker 2: you know that the old school fields. I used to
Speaker 2: have that cement rim in the track. Yep. Well, Ernie
Speaker 2: somehow fell down in the middle of practice, hits his head.
Speaker 2: He's bleeding profusely out of his head. Joker goes get
Speaker 2: seven eight stitches, comes back out for practice.
Speaker 4: He had the full rap on his he didn't he.
Speaker 2: Yes, did you football player today to do that?
Speaker 1: No, these guys are soft today?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Are they the players today? And by the way, it's
Speaker 1: not I don't really put that in as as their fault,
Speaker 1: and not all of them. There's some football playing Jesse's
Speaker 1: out there. Like I think I told you this man
Speaker 1: like David Andrews is a throwback. Yeah, Like if I
Speaker 1: had take a guy that's in New England right now
Speaker 1: that you know, I love the way he plays, like
Speaker 1: a style like his approach to the game, David would
Speaker 1: be it. I think he's a great you know, well
Speaker 1: he's he's a great voice in that locker room for
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. But man, I'll tell you what, Man,
Speaker 1: the violent side of the game what I love the most,
Speaker 1: and not just to be violent. Football is a violent sport.
Speaker 1: You should want to try to knock the guy out
Speaker 1: across the line from you.
Speaker 2: Legally, legally.
Speaker 1: But in today's world, man, how in the world do
Speaker 1: you prepare yourself? You know, the league has a real problem,
Speaker 1: a legit problem on their hands, and it's being masked
Speaker 1: by fan duel and all these gambling sites right because
Speaker 1: the revenue is still coming in. But the passion the
Speaker 1: average fan and and and the rabid fan has left
Speaker 1: the game and droves. And that's not a good thing
Speaker 1: for football, now, you know what I'm saying, Like, look
Speaker 1: look at it in terms of jersey sales and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff, Like there's only so much that Taylor's
Speaker 1: the Swifties can do. Okay, Like he keep going down
Speaker 1: that road. See how that pans out, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like we need football playing jessin. We need
Speaker 1: to bring the violence back. We need to allow these
Speaker 1: guys to blow people up over the middle.
Speaker 2: I mean can though we as players suit the owners.
Speaker 2: So the owners are going to sit there and say
Speaker 2: we're changing the rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not really though, I mean not really though.
Speaker 1: I mean the lawsuits you're talking about more on the
Speaker 1: concussive side, Yeah, those were in play long before, and
Speaker 1: those are just a function of doing business. Like you
Speaker 1: think about all these industries and how they mitigate risk. Right,
Speaker 1: it's all insurance. It's all a game, right, Like I
Speaker 1: can go out and have an event where we shoot
Speaker 1: a lot of guns and we do and there's a
Speaker 1: higher probability, higher probability of chaos there versus on a field, Right,
Speaker 1: cheap insurance, so you can ensure against everything. It's not
Speaker 1: that there's always been people trying to suit.
Speaker 2: The league.
Speaker 1: League knows how to get around that. They changed the
Speaker 1: game fundamentally after twenty eleven CBA, the last one I
Speaker 1: was a part of that changed the game. And as
Speaker 1: you know, they can't practice, they don't hit, and they
Speaker 1: can't get their bodies ready. And where you see it
Speaker 1: most is in the line play because that's the guys
Speaker 1: that need it the most. You guys can go run
Speaker 1: routes and do technical stuff right and get yourselves right
Speaker 1: for the most part, although they still need more work
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of sloppiness. Man, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of line of scrimmage bullshit. It's a it's a there's
Speaker 1: a much better product five ten years ago on the
Speaker 1: field from an execution standpoint.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tommy was saying that he got in trouble
Speaker 2: for saying.
Speaker 1: That, and he was right, and he was saying that
Speaker 1: almost a decade ago. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I remember having that conversation with him. He's like, it's
Speaker 1: so easy right now, so and I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: was easy in terms of we're gonna win every game
Speaker 1: kind of mentality. But in terms of what it takes,
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is is that they did all of it,
Speaker 1: all the rule changes, everything the league did to get
Speaker 1: their seventeenth game and they're about to get their eighteenth.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it because they want to have that super
Speaker 2: bood President's Day.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about players safety, health and wellness. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they want to see guys hurt. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you we were floated this idea that all the changes
Speaker 1: were centered around making the game safer, making the game safer,
Speaker 1: and the game is not safer if you look at
Speaker 1: it from a rate of injury, the rate of injuries
Speaker 1: that actually gone up, soft tissue, all that stuff. They
Speaker 1: can tell you anything they want, I'm telling you the
Speaker 1: numbers would prove that. And you don't even have to
Speaker 1: have the inside scoop on it. You can just watch it.
Speaker 1: Look at how many of the of the starters and
Speaker 1: the backups. And by the way, if you're a backup today,
Speaker 1: you haven't taken a real live rep maybe since training camp.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, because there's not enough time.
Speaker 1: So it's a problem.
Speaker 2: Man, practices, or.
Speaker 1: They can't hit two days in a row. We hit
Speaker 1: twice in one day, two different sessions. So what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is all that stuff was done because they wanted
Speaker 1: to get their seventeenth and eighteenth game. And yes, there's
Speaker 1: more revenue out there. It's Almo in front of the guys. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be hitting as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah we won't hit as much.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna take away a preseason.
Speaker 2: Get them in the back end with that eighteenth game.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I could care less. You want
Speaker 1: to get seventeen eighteen negotiated, get it done like anybody else.
Speaker 2: And they did.
Speaker 1: They finally got it done. Pay the guys, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but don't do what you're doing because you keep going
Speaker 1: down this road. These guys are not ready to play
Speaker 1: a season. They're not ready to survive a season in entirety,
Speaker 1: and they sure as hell aren't executing at a level
Speaker 1: that is acceptable.
Speaker 2: No. I mean, training camp by the time I retired
Speaker 2: was a joke.
Speaker 1: It was the worst days of my life, oh and
Speaker 1: yours in the beginning.
Speaker 2: First time, I was never I never ran like that
Speaker 2: in my life. I was a quarterback bro I was
Speaker 2: like slinging JoJo's in special teams periods at Kent State,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I had to run
Speaker 2: every period I was dead. We used to have run
Speaker 2: game in the morning, past game in the afternoon, double days,
Speaker 2: remember that, oh Man hot, vivid sticky. I mean by
Speaker 2: the time I left, Bro, you didn't have you didn't
Speaker 2: have three days in a row, or it was like
Speaker 2: three days on and then you get one day off mandatory.
Speaker 2: It was fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Remember when we used to get the iron Man Award.
Speaker 1: If you made it all through training camp because you
Speaker 1: were a football play you were a bad dude. If
Speaker 1: you made it all the way through without you know,
Speaker 1: getting dinged up to where you couldn't practice. And by
Speaker 1: the way, on that note, going back to our boy,
Speaker 1: Briggsy had a security We were filming a thing for
Speaker 1: the Oil Consortium for Craft. It was like like we
Speaker 1: got paid to go do something right. And so because
Speaker 1: it was they were like a big sponsor of the stadium,
Speaker 1: they were coming in the back enter and try by
Speaker 1: Briggs's house and it was Russ Hoaks, Syne and I
Speaker 1: And it was supposed to be like Russ coming out
Speaker 1: of his house and the oil delivery truck coming up,
Speaker 1: and I was doing something. I was like dog cussing
Speaker 1: the cheerleaders for some reason. Actually that wasn't part of it.
Speaker 1: I just took that upon myself.
Speaker 2: And it was funny.
Speaker 1: They gave him the video. But anyway, when we're doing it,
Speaker 1: I told Russ, I said, hey, you know we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing this at Briggs's house. I said, I'm going
Speaker 1: to steal something from Briggs's house. Right in front of him.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you're not. I'm like, yes, I will.
Speaker 1: And dude, so he, being British, had a gargoyle, a
Speaker 1: concrete gargoyle, and it was sitting on the railing of
Speaker 1: his porch and Briggs is here, Russ is right here
Speaker 1: wearing a robe, looking like an idiot, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here and it was kind of raining out, and I
Speaker 1: have my rain jacket. I put my jacket over the
Speaker 1: gargoyle and we're talking, and right in front of him,
Speaker 1: I kind of gripped my jackets. It looked like I
Speaker 1: was just grabbed my jacket and I cup and that
Speaker 1: thing was heavy about damn dropped it and I just
Speaker 1: took it right on my side and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I got to go back to my truck and I
Speaker 1: put that gargole in my truck. When we got done,
Speaker 1: Russell was like, I thought you were going to steal
Speaker 1: something from him.
Speaker 2: I'm like I did.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you didn't. And I opened my truck
Speaker 1: door and there's a gargol and he is dying right
Speaker 1: Fast forward and I'm tying this back in hanging with me.
Speaker 1: Fast forward to the end of training camp, and I
Speaker 1: got my little Iron Man. We got a T shirt, right,
Speaker 1: and we do we do anything for a T shirt.
Speaker 1: So I got my T shirt and Briggs is walking
Speaker 1: past me, but I had put the gargoyle in my
Speaker 1: locker up where my shoulder paths were and it was
Speaker 1: like sitting there. And he walks past me and he
Speaker 1: stops and he looks. He backs up and he goes,
Speaker 1: it's up my phone gogole. I swear to God, you
Speaker 1: cannot write this script. And I go what And I
Speaker 1: look at it. I look at him. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about. He goes, I'm a phone goggle.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's all gargle. I was like, Bill
Speaker 1: gave me that. It's like for being like the Iron
Speaker 1: iron Man, iron deer on a law, you know, like
Speaker 1: like it was a it was a symbol of me
Speaker 1: watching over the team. He's like, oh god, we'll just
Speaker 1: look it. And he walks away.
Speaker 6: Now I'm dying inside.
Speaker 1: And Logan saw the whole thing and he's dying. Right
Speaker 1: next day, I walk in, No Gargoyle, Okay, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, he got it. Never talked to him about it,
Speaker 1: never had a real conversation. Right, It's funny how that works. Right,
Speaker 1: We're all busy, like trying to get better and be
Speaker 1: really good. So years go by and we go back
Speaker 1: for a reunion for like the three Super Bowl you know,
Speaker 1: guys that were there for all three of them, right
Speaker 1: at the beginning ones. And we're there and I brought
Speaker 1: my RV and we're having a great time. And then
Speaker 1: Steve Neil we go up because Kratz has a little
Speaker 1: reception in that little room up there with all of
Speaker 1: his people, and Steve goes, hey, man, let's let's go
Speaker 1: down to Briggs's office. We'll mess around. I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: rubber nuts over his keyboard.
Speaker 4: To be awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I wasn't gonna do that, probably would have.
Speaker 1: And we walk in and and I sit down in
Speaker 1: his office. I got my feet up on his desk,
Speaker 1: and Steve's taking a picture and I look.
Speaker 2: Up and the gargoyle is on the shelf. I stole
Speaker 2: it again. It's at my house. I have it right now.
Speaker 3: It's amazing double jeopardy.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, fucking gargoyle.
Speaker 1: I got it. It's the greatest man. It's in my office.
Speaker 1: Old Briggs. He left, Yeah, many doing big security, like
Speaker 1: world security stuff.
Speaker 2: I liked him. I liked him at the end. First
Speaker 2: he hated me, Jack, want you ahead take us into
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's run through the lead up real quick, and
Speaker 4: then we'll get through this butt kicking up in Buffalo.
Speaker 4: So the Bills entered this thing four and ten. Pats
Speaker 4: come in twelve and two. They're firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 4: We had won that game thirty eight to thirty in
Speaker 4: the Week three matchup. This game would clinch an AFC
Speaker 4: East title for the Pats on a six game win streak,
Speaker 4: wins by twenty one or more in three of the
Speaker 4: last four weeks, turnover free for seven weeks leading up
Speaker 4: to this game, and the defense had forced seven turnovers
Speaker 4: in that span so pretty darn good plus minus differential there.
Speaker 1: Hair like really good hair.
Speaker 4: This was long hair Brady season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like when he first was getting the plugs,
Speaker 1: like the you know what I'm saying, like that whatever
Speaker 1: that miracle grow stuff there sprinkling him.
Speaker 2: He always said he had what was that ship that
Speaker 2: Alex Skucia or something, I don't know, Ksha Berry or something.
Speaker 4: And then the game itself twenty two degrees sixteen mile
Speaker 4: an hour wins. This is Buffalo December weather. The games
Speaker 4: the day after Christmas.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Bills got on the board first with a Ryan
Speaker 4: Lindell field goal, then wood Woody punched one in a
Speaker 4: twenty nine yard run to put the Pats up seven
Speaker 4: to three, and they never looked back, scoring twenty one
Speaker 4: unanswered a Gronk TD, another Shane Graham field goal, an
Speaker 4: Algae Crumpler TD. The tight ends were all over the
Speaker 4: place today. Gronk had another touchdown the second half, and
Speaker 4: the defense forcing seven overs four for almost three interceptions.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The offensive line would let up just one sack. Shane
Speaker 4: Graham tacked on another field goal at the end to
Speaker 4: make this thing thirty four to three, just a beat
Speaker 4: down in Buffalo, and then after this game to wrap
Speaker 4: the game up, Tom Brady set the record for most
Speaker 4: consecutive pass attemption with that an interception at three hundred
Speaker 4: and nineteen, passing Bernie Kozar Ernie who did it in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety ninety ninety one season?
Speaker 2: Love it crazy? Bill cut Bernie Cozar?
Speaker 4: Did he really? I forgot about that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, A Bernie came in with a blow dryer
Speaker 1: and like an old man hairbrush. I will never forget that.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like when when Bernie came, he
Speaker 1: was like he came in for no, No, it was
Speaker 1: it Bernie. No, No, who's the guy we signed? It
Speaker 1: wasn't Bernie Kozar. I'm talking about Ninnie Tes severity, Vinnie Tes.
Speaker 1: Vinnie T was with us, and remember do you remember
Speaker 1: when he had when he couldn't read? Were you there
Speaker 1: for that one? Okay?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I'm thinking Vinnie T so and
Speaker 1: then I almost went to Flutie, but it was Vinne T.
Speaker 1: Flashbacks here been hit a lot, Bill, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: love this, dude. So you know, the quarterbacks sat in
Speaker 1: the first row right and Vinnie T's right in front
Speaker 1: of the podium and Bill's talking about again, probably the
Speaker 1: Bengals or something. You know how we'd always say, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you can't make this shit up, right, because it sounded
Speaker 1: kind of stupid some of them did. So he would
Speaker 1: hand like the wire like whatever came off, you know,
Speaker 1: he would hand it and he handed it to Vinnie T.
Speaker 1: And he's like, lock you read it. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't make this shit up. And he's
Speaker 1: looking at it and he's like, all right, go ahead
Speaker 1: and read it, and like he's still not reading it,
Speaker 1: and he keeps trying to get his arm because he
Speaker 1: didn't have his glasses on and he couldn't read it.
Speaker 2: And Bill's like, give me that thing and ripped it
Speaker 2: out of his hands. If we were dying, dude.
Speaker 1: But Vinnie T. Came in and I'll never forget. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to this sound. Nobody has a hair dryer
Speaker 1: in the locker room, Like that's like, what's your grandfather?
Speaker 2: You like a hair dryer?
Speaker 1: And he had like the old school brush and he's
Speaker 1: in there just clopping it up glow dryer, like look
Speaker 1: at this guy, you sell again.
Speaker 2: I remember his story. I remember once we were leaving
Speaker 2: the shower, and it was just reminding I don't know why,
Speaker 2: and you go, could you imagine if you used another
Speaker 2: person's towel right away? Like you explained to me, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last thing I dry off and the first
Speaker 1: thing you dry off?
Speaker 2: Think about that. Let that that's what I remember you
Speaker 2: explaining this to me. Yeah, it's amazing your memory. I
Speaker 2: was just so like, what is light talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then you got it and I got it. And
Speaker 1: you imagine if you did that and some people's last
Speaker 1: thing they dried off, like if you caught like a
Speaker 1: little uh's up the peak guy that's.
Speaker 4: At Lasia hit.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, lady, how do we celebrate this division
Speaker 2: locking down game?
Speaker 6: So this was a rare one.
Speaker 1: And the reason I love this game is because and
Speaker 1: I thought, I honestly thought it was the windy one,
Speaker 1: but you refresh my memory so big time snow we
Speaker 1: always leave. People don't realize that, right, it could get
Speaker 1: a Monday night game. It's like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning by the time the buses
Speaker 1: finally rolled out, and what, by the way, was that
Speaker 1: not the worst waiting on all the equipment, all the.
Speaker 2: B So the worst was the hour drive back from
Speaker 2: the Providence Airport that.
Speaker 1: We could have gotten in our own vehicles, albeit a
Speaker 1: handle deep in crown. I mean, who knows, but things happened,
Speaker 1: but probably the best idea we didn't. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the worst. Man, the word, the travel, the downtime. God,
Speaker 1: it was terrible. And then you know you got to
Speaker 1: wake up in like hours.
Speaker 2: And go get in the clock and run.
Speaker 1: We do this again. We're never gonna win out fucking game.
Speaker 1: We won thirty ford to nothing, Bill, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so we got stuck in Buffalo, ended up going
Speaker 1: on some buses that took us to Rochester.
Speaker 2: Because there was a hockey tournament in Buffalo. In Buffalo,
Speaker 2: so there was no hotels.
Speaker 3: That was the World Juniors. If it was around Christmas,
Speaker 3: that's probably what it was.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, okay.
Speaker 1: So we on the way to Rochester. I would always
Speaker 1: do this hunt and they had this this place called
Speaker 1: Dinosaur Barbecue, big shot out Dinosaur Barbecue places, epic. They
Speaker 1: always had live entertainment, great barbecue, and we do the
Speaker 1: one of Syracuse, but I knew they had a location
Speaker 1: of Rochester. And so we call ahead, I get everything
Speaker 1: set up, and we basically hit that hotel and immediately
Speaker 1: the whole team went.
Speaker 2: Whole team coaches, coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hammered and never do that, like we
Speaker 1: never get an opportunity as a group to go do something.
Speaker 1: And that was, man, that was a special day.
Speaker 2: Man. That was so fun.
Speaker 1: It was so great and just to see coaches being
Speaker 1: human and doing like so and by the way, for them,
Speaker 1: I think it was a huge relief, you know, just to.
Speaker 2: Definitely have that time, man, because the coach, like what,
Speaker 2: People don't realize that the coach's got motherfuck just as
Speaker 2: much as we did, if not.
Speaker 1: Worse, probably worse, man, And longer and.
Speaker 2: Longer, the staff would sit and watch every single play
Speaker 2: of practice as.
Speaker 1: A unit, and then watch it again with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then watch again with us, and then watch
Speaker 2: it again at night.
Speaker 1: And watch again at night. No doubt grueling, man, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, you know. And in a moment, I don't think
Speaker 1: I respected it very much in my early years, but
Speaker 1: by the time you've been around it long enough, you know,
Speaker 1: towards the end of my career, I was like, holy
Speaker 1: smokes man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're leaving to go home after a twelve hour
Speaker 2: day and you're watching the coaches see their kids in
Speaker 2: the parking lot for an hour before they got night meetings.
Speaker 2: No doubt, that's why people ask you want to go
Speaker 2: to coach? No, never want to coach.
Speaker 1: Ither hit my nestle the rubber Like, that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: What about a steel hammer?
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not thoor, but yeah that would hurt.
Speaker 2: So what happened at this barbecue joint? What do we do?
Speaker 2: Chugg chugging beer? There's a lot to you.
Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, do they know you're
Speaker 1: like you have to be up there on.
Speaker 2: A board somewhere. I can chug a beer.
Speaker 1: And and the other guy that can chuck a beer,
Speaker 1: that's a little kind of a you wouldn't think so
Speaker 1: with like he's a little bit of a soft kiddy
Speaker 1: and some man categories. I mean, we just roasted him yesterday,
Speaker 1: so we can just say it. Tommy can chuck a beer.
Speaker 1: He can chug a beer. He doesn't look like a chugger, no,
Speaker 1: but he can chuck a beer. He's you know what
Speaker 1: that tells me? He can got a good opening.
Speaker 2: Of the jaw.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, you know he I will never forget.
Speaker 1: We used to practice at Bryant's College and that was
Speaker 1: a training camp. And there's a little place right when
Speaker 1: you turn into Brian College called Parentes, And I'll never
Speaker 1: forget because thy law and Lawyer, law Dog and all
Speaker 1: these guys would be like brand Is and we'd all
Speaker 1: go there and we'd sneak in and we get back
Speaker 1: right before curfew. And we were there one time and
Speaker 1: I remember Izzoh challenged Brady and I'm thinking, dude, is
Speaker 1: I was gonna smoke this cat and they and it
Speaker 1: was back when they had the pictures and they're pouring
Speaker 1: into the like a solo cuffs and I remember Tommy
Speaker 1: put that thing back and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this kid's a gamer.
Speaker 2: He's a game gamer bringing off a fucking gamer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of chugging going on that night.
Speaker 1: I remember some guys got lost in the shuffle trying
Speaker 1: to get back to it. I remember somebody was late
Speaker 1: the next morning to the team meeting.
Speaker 2: Who I can't remember who it was, Nino, Oh, it
Speaker 2: was Ninko. I was like, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 6: It's like number three.
Speaker 2: I think it was meat.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it was Ninko. It was definitely Ninko. Something
Speaker 1: happened to him. He got he got a little sideways
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, but he was definitely late
Speaker 1: to the team. And Bill didn't care though.
Speaker 2: That was a good point. Yeah, because we clinched. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we clinched. And it was also a kind of fucked
Speaker 2: up schedule. Yes. Also, remember we went to London. We
Speaker 2: had that same kind of vibe when we went to
Speaker 2: We almost fought the rams.
Speaker 1: You guys went to. I was hurt on that one there.
Speaker 1: It killed me.
Speaker 2: Man, Oh, that was a fun trip.
Speaker 1: Killed me.
Speaker 2: Dude. Jared is getting like he couldn't even walk to
Speaker 2: the bus the next morning because we stayed out.
Speaker 1: The Gallery of Diamonds.
Speaker 2: Jared Jared, Jared Jared our it guy.
Speaker 1: It could only be jermy dude. I said that every
Speaker 1: time I saw him. By the way, Jared's the best,
Speaker 1: the teddy, and Jared Jared's the one like that literally
Speaker 1: was losing his mind bringing a new mouse and new
Speaker 1: keyboard in for Dante. When I used a little stick
Speaker 1: that I put in this computer.
Speaker 2: It was stick, the.
Speaker 1: One that made his mouse wander all over the place.
Speaker 2: Can you how long did you keep this prank? Going?
Speaker 1: Seven months and he lost it? Dante Los I forgot
Speaker 1: about it, to be honest with you. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a plan that I put it in there towards the
Speaker 1: end of one seat and I was testing it and
Speaker 1: it had like a thing where you could ramp up
Speaker 1: the volume and it could do three different things, but
Speaker 1: I chose to do one.
Speaker 6: It would just make the mouse wander randomly.
Speaker 1: And I remember I put it in and I'd see
Speaker 1: it because we'd be watching film and he'd be using
Speaker 1: the remote and all of a sudden, the mouse just
Speaker 1: kind of wander over. But then it wouldn't do it
Speaker 1: for like an hour. So I kind of forgot about it.
Speaker 1: And I remember in the off season guys were complaining
Speaker 1: about they had a hard time with it, but I
Speaker 1: didn't put two and two together. Well, then we got
Speaker 1: to OTA's and I'm sitting in there watching film again,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this sucks, and I see the mouse wander
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh snap.
Speaker 2: And I sat right in front of Dante.
Speaker 1: Because he couldn't see me sleeping, so and I had
Speaker 1: an amazing ability to couple tell you this my head
Speaker 1: never bobbed, never, and I'd be dead asleep perfectly sitting there.
Speaker 1: And Dante recognized it too. He ignowed like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know you can sleep without moving your head. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, thanks, coach, And so I would.
Speaker 2: I could reach right.
Speaker 1: Behind me and pull that thing out, and I remember
Speaker 1: I ramped it up and I put it back in,
Speaker 1: and that's when all hell broke loose and Dante's dog
Speaker 1: cussing it. He go get Jimmy D, he go get Jared.
Speaker 1: They bring in a new keyboard, a new mouse. They
Speaker 1: put it all in then the next day and by
Speaker 1: the way, when they come in, I just pop it out,
Speaker 1: so they're like messing with their like, coach, well we'll
Speaker 1: put a new keyboard mouse in.
Speaker 2: So that went on for like a.
Speaker 1: Week and Dante's losing his shit. He can't run his
Speaker 1: meeting right. And the minute he go to click on
Speaker 1: something to be like woo, he flung a bitch and
Speaker 1: he bring it back over and try to click. I
Speaker 1: remember the day I walk in and Jimmy D stops
Speaker 1: me and he goes, look me in the eye, and
Speaker 1: don't you lie to me. He goes, I found that
Speaker 1: stick because I forgot to take it out.
Speaker 2: One day.
Speaker 1: I found that stick that USB drive you put in
Speaker 1: a computer, and your dumb ass almost made it so
Speaker 1: that I fired XOS. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: He's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: What am I talking about? He's like, I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell is wrong. I'm blaming the software company.
Speaker 1: I'm dog cussing them every single day for a freaking week.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't ever do that again.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, it's amazing. Did you
Speaker 2: get him with a shocking remote too?
Speaker 1: I did, and that one was so great because he
Speaker 1: on his remote control for running the video Cowboy clicker, yep,
Speaker 1: the Cowboy. He there's a piece of tape on it
Speaker 1: and it said remote and I took mine, and my
Speaker 1: remote was it wasn't it wouldn't do nothing. But I
Speaker 1: put that sticker, that piece of tape over it, and
Speaker 1: it had all these little buttons, and it had one
Speaker 1: chrome button that was outlined in red, and if I
Speaker 1: told you the world would end if you clicked it,
Speaker 1: you couldn't help yourself. It was so cool looking, shiny,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's just like something
Speaker 1: you had to press. So I put the little thing
Speaker 1: on there, and I'll never forget man, he said, I
Speaker 1: didn't tell I never used to tell the guys anything.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there waiting for the shoe to drop right,
Speaker 1: and he walks in. He's talking about something up on
Speaker 1: the whiteboard, and he comes, all right, we're gonna watch
Speaker 1: a little third down here. And he's sitting there and
Speaker 1: he's got the tape playing. He goes, oh, he goes,
Speaker 1: I got a new remote, and I can hear him
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, here we go. And he goes,
Speaker 2: I wonder if.
Speaker 1: This thing's got a laser pointer on it, because a
Speaker 1: laser pointer on this other one didn't work. He hits
Speaker 1: the button. You can hear the electricity go through him.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh god, damn it. And he drops it
Speaker 1: and he picked it up and did it again. And
Speaker 1: that's when we lose it, because the first time that happened, like,
Speaker 1: Cope's looking at me like holy shit, like what was that?
Speaker 1: And I've given him a look like oh my god,
Speaker 1: and he did it the second time. And when we
Speaker 1: all start losing, he is, okay, all right, you fat fuckers.
Speaker 1: He goes, We'll see how funny this is out of practice?
Speaker 2: What do you make you do? Run? Oh man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, that okay. So I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: but this was reminded me that look of copin. There's
Speaker 1: one other time, and I don't know if you remember this.
Speaker 1: Remember Pierre Woods, I lived with them. Do you remember
Speaker 1: what I did to him? And this is one of
Speaker 1: my This is one that I wish, like hell I
Speaker 1: would have. I usually film most of my up I
Speaker 1: didn't film this one. No, I didn't remember.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So this is amazing. So one year, going into camp,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about things like, you know, I should do
Speaker 1: a dwardo the blow up doll, and I'd be butt
Speaker 1: naked stitting over it when the coach would comeing to
Speaker 1: do room check. I had two candles typically send it
Speaker 1: in Bayberry and like I'd have Marvin Gaye playing and
Speaker 1: I'd literally have my ass facing them and I'd be
Speaker 1: putting lipstick on a big blow up doll. And when
Speaker 1: they walk in, I hear the door open, I turn
Speaker 1: and be like no, no, no, and they'd be like shit.
Speaker 1: It'd be like the young guy and all the other
Speaker 1: coach when I walk in. They'd be like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: you should have seen his face now, he was freaking out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I got it good, or I'd
Speaker 1: be dancing with him butt naked.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: I used to love room check man.
Speaker 2: Anyway. Ivan was always funny.
Speaker 1: Was I even hated it when I did that stuff.
Speaker 1: When I found out that Ivan was doing that, I
Speaker 1: always had something special for him. He didn't find any
Speaker 1: of it funny, I don't think, but that was all right.
Speaker 2: I still.
Speaker 1: So going getting ready for camp. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta do something, and so I went. I went to
Speaker 1: a gas station in Foxborough and I bought like, I
Speaker 1: think it was like crossword puzzle scratch off tickets, right,
Speaker 1: and I bought the whole role. It was like eight
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty bucks or something. And I walk in
Speaker 1: on like day three, and I dropped it at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the locker room, and it was like it
Speaker 1: was like an accordion. They were all together, and I walked
Speaker 1: almost halfway through the locker room and I was like, hey, boys,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna be in here all day, we might
Speaker 1: as well try to make some money. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 2: With it.
Speaker 1: So guys are coming over and ripping them off. I
Speaker 1: was like, eh, do whatever, man, just scratching them away.
Speaker 1: And it worked perfectly because they all became crackheads and
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a scratch off ticket in Foxborough. You
Speaker 1: drive to another town to get scratch off tickets. I remember,
Speaker 1: and there's shavings everywhere, like I mean, shavings over the
Speaker 1: whole place. So I let that boil for a while
Speaker 1: and about a week and a half into it. Because
Speaker 1: now again today, everybody knows these things. Back then, nobody
Speaker 1: saw the fake scratch off tickets. The problem though, is
Speaker 1: that I had to create a narrative because these fake
Speaker 1: scratch off tickets they were smaller. So I started talking
Speaker 1: about how like, man, you can't find you know, and
Speaker 1: I didn't. It just worked out to work out this way.
Speaker 1: But I said, I can't find the crosswords, so I've
Speaker 1: been doing the four leaf clover or some shit, the
Speaker 1: Irish one. And then I'm like, you know what, though,
Speaker 1: but they have these really cool ones. I think they're
Speaker 1: county tickets. It's not state tickets, they're county scratch off tickets.
Speaker 1: But they say that the odds are really good on them,
Speaker 1: like you can hit big. So I set the scenario.
Speaker 1: So this day, in particular, after laying all this ground
Speaker 1: where Coping's right next to me, and Pierre was like
Speaker 1: right next to me too, and there's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of other guys and they're all crackhead. They're all scratching
Speaker 1: tickets and we would let other guys scratch tickets for us, right,
Speaker 1: So Pierre's sitting there and I had those sitting there,
Speaker 1: and I was telling Cope and he heard me talking
Speaker 1: about the county ticket and he goes, liter, you want
Speaker 1: me scratch some of these for you. I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do. So he's sitting there and he's scratching,
Speaker 1: and I'm just scratching.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting, scratching.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's like, oh, light, dog, you
Speaker 1: got you need one more for twenty five Oul, twenty.
Speaker 2: Five Poul for one more.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, dude, he scratched it. He's like,
Speaker 1: hey dog, hey, hey, hey, light, Like look.
Speaker 2: At this shit.
Speaker 1: You just want twenty five thousand dollars like you just
Speaker 1: want twenty whoop whoop. And he it's up and he
Speaker 1: starts running around the locker room and the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, dude, it's like soul trained. Everybody's dancing. They
Speaker 1: crank the music up, like.
Speaker 2: Twenty five twenty five baby, and he's running all over
Speaker 2: the place.
Speaker 1: Everybody's amped up. Copein's looking at me. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I just want twenty five thousand, you know, And I say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: come here. It comes over and I go, I guess
Speaker 1: I just take it to where I got it.
Speaker 5: Hunt.
Speaker 1: I go, it's the same thing about where to claim it?
Speaker 1: Now on the back of it, he turns it around
Speaker 1: and he goes to claim prize. Please go see Santa
Speaker 1: Claus the North pot man.
Speaker 2: What the shit?
Speaker 1: He's like, if Santa Claus is not available, please see
Speaker 1: the Tooth Fairy. And like he's like looking at me
Speaker 1: and like huh, And the copin looks at me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like and he knows. Immediately Pierre read the whole thing. Finally,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, man, I didn't win. He was
Speaker 1: so mad at me, dude, so mad at me. But
Speaker 1: if you would have seen that scene, you would have died, dude.
Speaker 2: I remember for a while, scratchers were huge in the
Speaker 2: locker room in that training room. That's why, Jesus Jack
Speaker 2: what we got all right?
Speaker 4: To wrap this thing up, The Pats went on to win,
Speaker 4: We got out of Buffalo, got home safely, would finish
Speaker 4: the season fourteen and two, but unfortunately lose in the
Speaker 4: AFC Division Round in the Can't Wait Game to the
Speaker 4: freaking Jets.
Speaker 2: Brutal, brutal Bart Scott Bart Scott.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady would finish the year with three hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty five consecutive pass attempts without an interception, breaking his
Speaker 4: own two thousand and seven t D to interception ratio
Speaker 4: as well with a record of nine to one. He
Speaker 4: was MVP, and the Patriots committed an NFL record low
Speaker 4: ten turnovers on the season, Pretty darn impressive and statistically,
Speaker 4: the twenty ten offense was more efficient play for play
Speaker 4: than the record setting two thousand and seven offense, which
Speaker 4: is pretty crazy, buts were taken.
Speaker 2: Aw We also ran the ball down on people's throat,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 1: That that's probably the biggest component I think in in
Speaker 1: the offensive you know, game plan, mindset. You know, Dante
Speaker 1: used to always say we rush the ball twenty five
Speaker 1: times or more, we're gonna win the game. In most
Speaker 1: most cases, right, yeah, and it's so true, man, And
Speaker 1: I think again, you know, Bill always talked about, you
Speaker 1: know where you developed toughness, right, offense and defensive line
Speaker 1: and special teams, right, and then where specifically in the
Speaker 1: run game offensively, you know, if you can develop that
Speaker 1: and and again I'll go back to not be the
Speaker 1: Debbie downer, but if you can't put the pads on
Speaker 1: and hit and condition and get rep after rep after rep,
Speaker 1: you can't be a good run team. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we know we were really good at screens man, And
Speaker 1: and that's you know, how delicate that process.
Speaker 2: What do you call it? The sideline, the marker in
Speaker 2: between the hash where you guys always had to get
Speaker 2: to yes, man, and numbers in the hash. Yeah, where
Speaker 2: I used to first out, first up.
Speaker 1: And then look back. I remember one time Bill came
Speaker 1: to me, He's like, why'd you do that? Because I
Speaker 1: was running on a tear screen to go kick out
Speaker 1: number one, and it'd be one of those where, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd get coming and I'm trying to kick
Speaker 1: the guy out and my fat ass just trying to
Speaker 1: get there in time. Well, I'm running full speed at
Speaker 1: this dude, and I must have just said. I don't
Speaker 1: remember consciously, but I hit the brakes and peeled back
Speaker 1: and there was a guy trailing and he was behind
Speaker 1: me and I hit him. He was most dangerous. Just happened.
Speaker 1: And Bill's like, I'll never forget. He's never come and
Speaker 1: asked me a question like that. But even I when
Speaker 1: I was when I did it, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know why I did that, but I'm glad I
Speaker 1: did that shit. And he came and asked me. He's like,
Speaker 1: why'd you do that? Because you shouldn't have done that,
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you did that. But dude, screens were
Speaker 1: Screens are such an important part of an offense, and
Speaker 1: they're so hard that you have to have smart physical players.
Speaker 2: Slows down the pass rush.
Speaker 1: Oh, such a weapon, man, it's a huge weapon.
Speaker 2: I know it.
Speaker 1: Run game and screens, man, That's that's what I would
Speaker 1: focus on, man, if I was coaching today in the NFL,
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. You know a lot of teams
Speaker 1: can do. You know certain aspects of the overall passing
Speaker 1: game pretty well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you know better than anything is you can't
Speaker 2: control the game unless you run the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean that's how you control
Speaker 1: the game. Well, how bad were you dying when we
Speaker 1: would go into these no huddle you know, throwing like
Speaker 1: every single you know, Timmy wanted to throw the ball
Speaker 1: every down, right, Yeah, you guys had to be dying
Speaker 1: at times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough. I mean when we played in
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl in sixteen, we had one hundred and
Speaker 2: like ten or fifteen offensive plays. That's a big game.
Speaker 2: That's two games, yeah, like a legit two games where
Speaker 2: he had one hundred and ten plays or something. It
Speaker 2: was gnarly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, we've had games in the fifties. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that's two that's two damn games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Know how they could do that today and keep it
Speaker 1: up at a high level, Dude.
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's it's gonna pendule him back. Because linebackers
Speaker 2: are getting small. Linebackers are two hundred and twenty five pounds.
Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy, two thirty Yeah, and you can exploit
Speaker 2: that right, Yeah, to your point, you can get you can.
Speaker 2: They're light, and a lot of the dns they just
Speaker 2: want to rush. You know. All these guys are built
Speaker 2: for fucking pinning their ears back and getting to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You think about the guys that we were blocking up front,
Speaker 1: the Dwight Freenies and the Mathis's, and I mean even
Speaker 1: think about our division. Like a guy like Aaron Shobel
Speaker 1: Hustler just got after right, John Abraham for me in
Speaker 1: the early days, Serxes or Jason Taylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did look just like he really did.
Speaker 2: He did Acrod Oh yeah, man, yeah, school too, he
Speaker 2: was homeschooled. Yeah. Man, you know Gronk lived with them
Speaker 2: in high school. When Grenk get kicked out of school
Speaker 2: and with j T. Yeah, his family. He went to
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Wild. That's a weird combination. It's weird, well Gronk,
Speaker 2: Gronk said, in the sense, I guess he sends an
Speaker 2: email to one of his teachers like suck my piece
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, it got kicked out of school and
Speaker 2: so I went to Pittsburgh to play high school football.
Speaker 1: From what I heard, he was very flexible when he
Speaker 1: was in high school. Gronk was he yeah, yeah, is
Speaker 1: this a joke? No, but you should probably talk to
Speaker 1: him about that.
Speaker 4: Oh what he's on next time?
Speaker 2: I won't be that guy. Ohod just you.
Speaker 1: Know, good hamstring flexibility. I mean, he was a good athlete.
Speaker 2: Obviously he's a monster, very flexible. Jack wet he left over.
Speaker 4: We got a couple. Uh, just to clarify here, shout
Speaker 4: out to Clark Hunt and the Kansas City Chiefs. Just
Speaker 4: got rid of the stools in the locker room this march.
Speaker 4: Replace them with shares.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: They were one of the last holdouts.
Speaker 1: That's always good for them.
Speaker 2: I don't remember them. I do remember them because anytime
Speaker 2: we play a stool thing, I would think about you
Speaker 2: a stool team like that.
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god. And we got to give a
Speaker 4: little love to Scar getting his IMDb credits up. The
Speaker 4: movie The Steeler and the Pittsburgh Kid nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 4: starring Jhontay Scarnekia as coach Uh. The movie was based
Speaker 4: on the the Me and Joe Green coke commercial, which
Speaker 4: is pretty crazy. Yeah, insane, pretty good. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: h it's a deep cut. I love that one.
Speaker 2: Scar.
Speaker 4: We gotta go back and watch that one.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. Now, let's
Speaker 2: name the game. What's the name of this game? We're
Speaker 2: staying in Buffalo Turnover Fest twenty ten. What is that?
Speaker 2: We didn't have any turnovers. It's seven only four to
Speaker 2: seven four seven, But we didn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 4: No, that's true. We got anything else, or you.
Speaker 2: Got a better name for this game. Dinosaur for life.
Speaker 2: Here we go, dinosaur for life. Yeah, baby, Now, let's
Speaker 2: score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 2: Let's score it. That's a zero steaks huh?
Speaker 1: Not the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 2: No way, one to ten decimals. Okay, steaks steaks point
Speaker 2: point five point five? Yeah, you do it too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll say a four five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a great scheme with me. It's Buffalo, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Little brothers. You know, it sucks
Speaker 2: that now we're the little brothers. And I know, at
Speaker 2: least when we were the older brothers, like the big
Speaker 2: boys on the block, we were going out beating up
Speaker 2: the other kids.
Speaker 1: By the way, one of the greatest Buffalo games was
Speaker 1: we ship low Doll down there, lawyer ly and they
Speaker 1: whoop our tail thirty one and nothing season opener yep.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we shipped in there like the
Speaker 1: week before and it was so awkward, you know, how
Speaker 1: like when that white buffalo comes in and snatches a dude.
Speaker 1: The feeling in there is so weird, especially when it's
Speaker 1: one of your top guys.
Speaker 2: And then can you explain what the white buffalo is? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like this.
Speaker 1: So we always said, there's this bend that they bring
Speaker 1: out in the locker room and they throw all the
Speaker 1: guy's stuff and they clear out that locker and you
Speaker 1: come in and man, that dude's just gone the turk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and.
Speaker 1: That when that happens to a guy like him, though, Man,
Speaker 1: it takes a little bit Like I like when Logan
Speaker 1: was traded. That was weird that that had to be crazy.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there for that, obviously, but you were there.
Speaker 2: I was there. It was crazy. I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 1: And by the way, what was he thinking?
Speaker 2: We won a super Bowl that year?
Speaker 1: I know it's the crazy thing, but that was not
Speaker 1: a good move on his part in my opinion.
Speaker 2: But whatever, what do I know. I'm not a world
Speaker 2: record coach. You're a world record, handsome gentleman. Let's get
Speaker 2: back to star power, you know, to say that when
Speaker 2: when one to ten star power of this game, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know four with these numbers.
Speaker 2: It's all right, I'll say six. Okay. The gameplay of
Speaker 2: this game, it was a blowout.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean from our perspective, it was pretty pretty stellar,
Speaker 1: pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: Guys ran with two hundred and fourteen yards.
Speaker 1: Every fat man's dream, man's just to run the ball
Speaker 1: every single play.
Speaker 2: You rather hit someone than get hit all day.
Speaker 1: Long, man back in, go forward. Give me a nine
Speaker 1: on gameplay, I'll give it a eight one. What's the name?
Speaker 1: Category mean?
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta score the name of the game. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: score the name of the game.
Speaker 3: And the cultural impact of the game.
Speaker 1: How much it like that has a lasting? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go nine again because I I felt
Speaker 1: it on this game.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go seven point eight seven eight all right, geez,
Speaker 2: look at these guys. The Russian We went full Russian judge.
Speaker 4: That was before I knew it. I had a great name.
Speaker 4: Dinosaur for Life game.
Speaker 2: Five point eight? Where's that? Where does that go on?
Speaker 2: On the leaderboard? That puts us dead last? Just below game.
Speaker 4: Two of the twenty fourteen n LDS. So we're like the.
Speaker 1: Let's have a whole system here. This is like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's wild.
Speaker 2: Those are all the games we've done. That's a lot.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of work being put into this. I see.
Speaker 1: It's you know, you know, like so I've never been
Speaker 1: on social media in my life. Yeah, and so I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit of a dinosaur myself in that respect.
Speaker 1: But you know what, here's my theory, man. I think
Speaker 1: it's actually going to become like the cool thing down
Speaker 1: the road, to be like retro No, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like bell bottoms and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: It ends upcoming cyclical, right. I think there's going to
Speaker 1: be a cachet to the people that like, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about this cat, like I can't find nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, although I've kind of shared most of my
Speaker 1: secrets today except for one. Thank you, Thank you center,
Speaker 1: next one, next.
Speaker 2: Time, next time. Let's really good, it's got it. We
Speaker 2: have everybody in. You gotta ring the boys in.
Speaker 1: I always feel like somebody's what. I started singing that
Speaker 1: and he finished it in the shower. Do you remember
Speaker 1: did you know that? I know you're gonna love that.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna love that. That happened in real time.
Speaker 1: We're at the fighting artichokes or something, and I started
Speaker 1: singing that right next and he finished it and we
Speaker 1: almost lost it. Don't be an idiot, all right, stop
Speaker 1: this is terrible, Matt. You want to plug anything and man,
Speaker 1: you know what, as you know, Man, as much fun
Speaker 1: as I like to have shoot out and the foundation. Man,
Speaker 1: look you know again, I was the most fortunate guy ever.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about what I was getting myself into.
Speaker 1: Got to play with guys like yourself, so many others.
Speaker 1: We did it at a high level, We had fun
Speaker 1: doing it, we won, and all of that gave me
Speaker 1: a platform.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We work with about seventy five hundred kids annually. It's
Speaker 1: all about leadership, man, It's about speaking the truth to
Speaker 1: young people.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We don't sugarcoat things. We push them outside their comfort zone.
Speaker 1: We take kids that maybe would have never had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something. We spend time with them, my dad,
Speaker 1: my mom, my wife, my kids, my aunts and my uncles,
Speaker 1: our employees. I love it. It's been my life passion.
Speaker 1: I mean when I was playing, when we were playing together,
Speaker 1: I spent two weeks in the woods running what we
Speaker 1: call our cultural leadership camp Camp buhocause and I would
Speaker 1: go from being in New Yorks with these kids for
Speaker 1: two weeks not working out and I do nothing and
Speaker 1: then freaking out because I had like five days to
Speaker 1: run the conditioning tests to get my ass ready. But
Speaker 1: my mind was right.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: When I got the camp, I was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so it's like been a passion of mine. You know,
Speaker 1: I come from a family of educators. My mom taught
Speaker 1: for thirty five years music. My dad is a you know,
Speaker 1: world renowned, you know, just guy in so many different
Speaker 1: fields and teacher, and so you know, the work we
Speaker 1: do through the Life Foundation is all about getting kids
Speaker 1: to just understand what it means to look people in
Speaker 1: the eye, treating with respect, earn what they get. Entitlement
Speaker 1: gets us nowhere. And if I think for young people today,
Speaker 1: those are the lessons that serve me well. I mean
Speaker 1: I would have been a total deadbeat, degenerate if I
Speaker 1: didn't have football and somebody pushing me. Not because my parents,
Speaker 1: my parents, I mean, I grew up in I was
Speaker 1: very fortunate, stable home, right parents poured into me. Mom
Speaker 1: prayed a lot because she had a dumb ass son.
Speaker 1: And you know that's what I love doing now, man,
Speaker 1: and I've been fortunate to do it. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: We've been around for twenty four years, almost right, twenty
Speaker 1: three years, and we work with about seventy five hundred
Speaker 1: kids annually. They come through the camp and everything from
Speaker 1: youth hunts to timber framing Camp teach how kids how
Speaker 1: to turn timbers into you know, usable parts in a
Speaker 1: frame to build a home, or build a shed or
Speaker 1: a covered bridge or a treehouse, all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1: Amount of love that so you know the shootout is
Speaker 1: what I mean. We raise all our money. We don't
Speaker 1: get support from the federal government. We can't get any
Speaker 1: of this. And as you know, I know you've been
Speaker 1: to the shootout. Will be our twentieth year.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 1: We got t far a hell of a country music
Speaker 1: artist coming in to celebrate. When is it September seventeenth, Man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. It's a Tuesday. Always on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Bill. We'll try to get Bill
Speaker 1: a show up for the first time because he's not working.
Speaker 1: He's got nothing to do. Do your job more like
Speaker 1: need a job?
Speaker 2: Got him?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: But I can say I can first hand remembered like
Speaker 2: Matt light stud football player, but always was making a
Speaker 2: huge impact with his foundation, the Matt Light Foundation. I mean,
Speaker 2: he did it for as long as I could remember.
Speaker 2: You always knew about the shootout. You always knew Matt
Speaker 2: was doing something for his foundation. He's raised a lot
Speaker 2: of money to help a lot of people, and I'm
Speaker 2: super happy for you. Everyone. Go check out the Matt
Speaker 2: Light Foundation on all social platforms, Matt Light, Matt Lightfoundation
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 1: Matt Light seventy two dot com and uh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know you want to get involved or want to
Speaker 1: do something, check out one of our events. All the
Speaker 1: information is on there, plus the programming. Man's that's the
Speaker 1: most important part.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We got great kids, we got great staff, and we're growing. Man.
Speaker 1: We're gonna open up a trade school before too long.
Speaker 2: Man. Awesome.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big deal. I think it's what
Speaker 1: we need. We need kids that are willing to put
Speaker 1: into work. And by the way, if you're in a
Speaker 1: trade today, you can make bank and you can work
Speaker 1: for yourself if you wanted to. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and we need that. We got to rebuild
Speaker 1: this country. You know, my last little thing here. We
Speaker 1: used to do great things in this country, man. We
Speaker 1: used to build great things. Now it's all I Kia,
Speaker 1: it's all cheap. We used to have public private partnerships.
Speaker 1: Look at the real leaders, the people that built this country.
Speaker 1: We took pride in what we have. What's the last
Speaker 1: thing that was built in La or any major city
Speaker 1: in this country that you can look at and say, man,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a work of art. Go to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: go look at some of the the architectural stuff. Look
Speaker 1: at New York City, but it's all old. We have
Speaker 1: to take pride in what we do again. Man, we
Speaker 1: got to raise people that respect this country and what
Speaker 1: it represents. You don't have to like every aspect of it.
Speaker 1: You have to like everybody that's leading it. But we
Speaker 1: have to be able to look at each other and
Speaker 1: have enough common ground and respect to not get caught
Speaker 1: up in all this bs because it's just stupid, and
Speaker 1: just go out there and work hard to be the
Speaker 1: best at what we do, no different than what we
Speaker 1: did on the field. We want to be the best
Speaker 1: and we can do that as a country. And we
Speaker 1: got to get young people to understand that it's not
Speaker 1: just going to happen and nobody owes you anything, and
Speaker 1: so buckle up, get ready to go get it. And
Speaker 1: by the way, when you earn it, it's a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot sweeter lot sweeter. Oh yeah, man, so
Speaker 1: I want to go.
Speaker 2: Can I vote for you right now?
Speaker 1: Hey, you just come work with our kids, man, because
Speaker 1: that's all we got to do. If you want to
Speaker 1: make a change, work with young people. And here's an
Speaker 1: last thing I say. You can change the narrative today.
Speaker 1: It's taking people a long time to instill this terrible
Speaker 1: world ethic. Yeah, and to break down the fiber of
Speaker 1: who we are as a country, because you know what
Speaker 1: it gives other people power. Well, you can undo that
Speaker 1: overnight just by holding kids accountable. I've seen it in
Speaker 1: the work we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh, man, we're so fortunate we have awesome kids
Speaker 1: we work with.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I give a shout out to them and our whole staff.
Speaker 1: Man there, it's a blessing to work with a man.
Speaker 2: We love it. I gave a shout out to you.
Speaker 2: And that was an unbelievable episode.
Speaker 1: Wow, I loved it, man, Thanks for having me, Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming, and we survived last night. And I would
Speaker 1: say you were flipping unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I was nervous for you. Guys, and you guys crushed it,
Speaker 1: So I hope everybody watches that.
Speaker 2: Man, it was fun. It was fun the roast check
Speaker 2: it out. Thanks Matt for coming in, Bubbs. Yeah, buddy man,
Speaker 2: Matt light funny, funny guy. I told you he'd be great.
Speaker 7: The amount of money and time and energy he spends
Speaker 7: just from pranking people.
Speaker 4: Incredible dudes like all three and practical jokers rolled into one.
Speaker 2: I remember my rookie year. I didn't get I forgot.
Speaker 2: It just popped in my head. He was the first
Speaker 2: one to have segways. He had like eight of them
Speaker 2: at his house. Yes, no way like he had. He
Speaker 2: had the coolest toys always.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: He was so fun and he also I also remember
Speaker 2: once asking him on the plane because Matt's a very
Speaker 2: smart guy. Oh yeah, you know, both of his parents educated,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, got you know, he's smart. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I was sitting there and I was just I
Speaker 2: was in like something weird, and he used to sit
Speaker 2: like write in front of me. I go, Bro, isn't
Speaker 2: it crazy? We're in like a forty ton ten can
Speaker 2: thirty thousand feet above air? He goes, No, Bro. Aeronautical
Speaker 2: engineering so easy to actually know that birds and he
Speaker 2: walks away or something. He like fully smug me off.
Speaker 2: Have you never heard of birds? Yeah, he's like, no,
Speaker 2: it's very easy actually to understand why we're in the air.
Speaker 3: I shot three this morning.
Speaker 2: Bit. I wonder if he stole anything.
Speaker 3: I love I love I love it.
Speaker 7: I love how he was like, oh, I've caught someone
Speaker 7: stealing we had these like security cameras whatever, And then
Speaker 7: he spent the next whole episode talking about all the
Speaker 7: ship stolen.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, if we ever need a heist,
Speaker 4: I'm hiring him and his babysitter and we're taking down
Speaker 4: We're oceans and anything.
Speaker 2: We are oceaning up with Matt Light, and Matt Light
Speaker 2: would be he'd actually he'd be a really good heist guy.
Speaker 3: And then Ernie's running the show. That's a post gust segment.
Speaker 2: RV.
Speaker 3: You gotta of the NFL. Who's who's your eleven?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Light's definitely.
Speaker 2: Made maybe a lot of Patriots. I bet.
Speaker 3: This stuff.
Speaker 2: What the the narratives are out there? Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: Well it's time to hit the old hotline. Remember that
Speaker 2: number is four two four two nine one two two
Speaker 2: nine zero you're wandering and one of you guys play
Speaker 2: that bass guitar. How old is that kid? How old
Speaker 2: is this kid?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he might be he might be five.
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 3: He's just not around kids.
Speaker 2: That kid is. That kid's probably like eight. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we do get a call sometimes from this one
Speaker 4: guy that is five guy kid, and it sounds very similar.
Speaker 4: He's listed his age in the calls a couple of times.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't understand the last Are we making clean
Speaker 2: versions on this thing? Hey, it's not our fault. Parents.
Speaker 2: Fault on parents.
Speaker 4: Explicit parental advisory marked in the show.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, but stop dodgs in the question can
Speaker 7: you slap the BASSA no bass?
Speaker 2: My uncle. My uncle died and he, uh, he was
Speaker 2: a He was a pretty good musician and he left
Speaker 2: those and I don't know, I just haven't found a
Speaker 2: place to them. They look cool. You guys actually put
Speaker 2: him up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can play a little bass.
Speaker 2: Not that slap of the bass is good. Question? Twelve
Speaker 2: year old or an eight year old if we're lucky.
Speaker 9: They have The Going Duels Big Podcast Season one names
Speaker 9: Billy I'm down here in South Florida. I got a
Speaker 9: recommendation for maybe doing something different with the games with names.
Speaker 9: Maybe doing an action sport, you know, maybe one of
Speaker 9: those type masters Kelly Slater winning it All surfing title,
Speaker 9: Surfing Champion eleven times. Maybe do one of those iCal
Speaker 9: big waves competitions, maybe the nine hundred pulled by Tony
Speaker 9: Hawk in the X Games, or maybe one of those
Speaker 9: legendary performances by the fline Tomato, Sean White. I think
Speaker 9: that would be kind of cool. Get a different type
Speaker 9: of sport. Show some love to those guys with the
Speaker 9: great balance and the balls of steel. Appreciate taking my call.
Speaker 9: Good luck with the rest of the season. Love the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, we definitely need to. I mean everything. He I
Speaker 2: remember all those. I grew up in the Bay Area,
Speaker 2: so it was always around like the skate surf community.
Speaker 2: I was a jock that hung out with like the surfer.
Speaker 2: I was pretty much Johnny Utah and Point Break. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a surfer give me two yeah, but I can
Speaker 2: hang out with them. I hung out them, hung out
Speaker 2: the skate park, and I remember when Tony Hawk pulled
Speaker 2: that nine hundred in uh San Francisco something like that.
Speaker 2: And then also Travis Pastrana did a backflip into the
Speaker 2: bay and got fined Hella money because he dropped the
Speaker 2: dirt bike in there. That would be sick. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's we We are definitely gonna get up in that business.
Speaker 2: John John Florence, me and him communicated a bunch over
Speaker 2: a CLS when he tour his a cl Shout out
Speaker 2: John John. Love watching his videos and his documentaries. The
Speaker 2: Stude's so talented, but he's insane them surfboard. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta definitely get We got to get the surf
Speaker 2: community or the extreme community in there.
Speaker 4: Got to got to maybe Mark cut Back Davis or
Speaker 4: Bob Jungle, Dea Girard, you know those.
Speaker 2: Guys, Bubba Stewart Legends, Bubba Stewart.
Speaker 7: This is not Yeah, we've been Honestly, the nine hundred
Speaker 7: has been in our like top ten.
Speaker 2: Tony with Tony Hawk incredible.
Speaker 3: We're flirting with Sean White. I think there's scheduling stuff.
Speaker 2: Would love.
Speaker 3: We've ben talk a lot about Kelly Slaton. We're not
Speaker 3: gonna say why, but yeah, one this would be really fun.
Speaker 4: We've been ranking Coole as bald guys. That's where Kelly
Speaker 4: keeps coming up. He's number one.
Speaker 2: Bruce Willis is pretty up there.
Speaker 4: He's up there too.
Speaker 2: We love you, Bruce. Maybe it's a chopper. Who's that?
Speaker 2: It says, dead baby? What a game and thanks again
Speaker 2: to Matt. That was a fun episode. That's been another
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