WEBVTT - 2010 Week 16 with Matt Light | Patriots vs. Bills 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.320 Like Bill, like it's not as if like everything's rosy. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.880 I mean, oh my god, man, we do this one 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.200 more time. We're not gonna win a fucking game. It's like, 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:11.360 all right, coach, we're sixteen and oh. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:18.160 But three time super Bowl champion, three time pro bowler 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:23.520 and ultimate prankster and Matthew big Bear gulch light. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.040 I was the first guy off the field. I was 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:27.880 the first guy showered, and I was the first guy 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.720 at the bar. That's what was important. I heard that story. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.640 Once you went into his office and what'd you do? 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:34.920 So I had this mouse. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.559 When you hit that mouse button, it would send like 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.600 Jesus through your body real quick. And so I go 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.040 in and I put that thing on his laptop on 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.519 his desk. You know how many times Rabel would have 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.920 Tommy Boy on tilt during practice. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.120 And like hard shots. What's the worst thing Rabel has 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.920 ever said to Tom oh Man? And today we are 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:01.920 looking at twenty ten week sixteen Patriots versus the Bills. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:03.480 Man, that was a special day. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:03.720 Man. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.760 The most treasured thing that I own in my life 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.479 is an email exchange between Bill Belichick and I. I've 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.759 never spoken to anybody's ever received an email like Bill 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.039 doesn't do human stuff right, Like I got an email? 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.240 What it was his email say? Games of Names is 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:25.720 a production of iHeartRadio. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.919 and we are on the search to find the greatest 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.640 game of all time. On today's episode, we're covering Week 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:39.720 sixteen of the twenty ten season Patriots versus the Bills 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:46.280 with three time Super Bowl champion, three time Pro Bowler, 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:53.800 Patriots Hall of Famer and ultimate prankster Matthew Big Bear 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:58.320 gulch Light. That's right, King of the pranks, you guys, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.080 you'll hear this dude is wild, nobody wild. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.280 No one saying them for three weeks to see what 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:05.840 he did. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:10.840 To us exactly, we get into getting snowed in a 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.840 Buffalo h This was a crazy game. You'll understand why 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.880 where we went after the crazy night of clinching once 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.760 again the division in Buffalo, Matt's infamous pranks around the 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:30.040 locker room. This guy is a prankster, prankster and what 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:37.160 it's like getting an email from Bill Belichick. You're gonna 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.720 want to hear this. He said, this is the only 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.320 thing that he will ever want. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.839 Like the one thing that if his house burned down 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.160 or if he lost everything that he'd want to save 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.480 is this email correspondence, this correct back and forth. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.000 How quickly he was able to pull it up twenty 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:54.440 years ago. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:55.800 Quickly insane? 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.639 I mean he probably reads a daily for innovation. It 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:04.120 is our thoughts on the TV twelve roast, Tom Brady 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.720 roast on it was up there, Matt Light was there. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.800 And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.560 Let's get into it. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:21.079 December twenty six, twenty ten, Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, New York. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.120 With twelve and two Patriots are on a mission to 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.880 clinch the division, but. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:32.040 The Bills and their Lake Effects snow have other plans. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:45.920 This is a Dinosaur for life game. Who welcome to 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.160 Games with Names. We have a very special guest, Big 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:55.560 Bear Gulch. Matthew Light from Purdue. Welcome to games and names. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.400 That's Jack, that's Kyler. And today we are looking at 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:06.560 two week sixteen Patriots versus the Bills. Why this game, Matt, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.080 It's a great question. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.160 First of all, if you asked me about any details 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.360 of any game at any point, I'm gonna know next 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:14.880 to nothing. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:15.440 Nothing. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.240 I have no idea. I look back on my career, man, 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.719 I can't tell you a specific moment of anything versus 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.800 like what you and like people that actually touch the 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.680 ball and do like athletic shit like you guys could 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.320 tell me exactly what the coverage was. You know what 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.200 you did all you know, I adjusted my route on 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.160 this thing, and oh yeah, that was when I caught 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.159 that I was with fourteen yards and and oh that 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.440 was a big pivotal moment a game like we don't care. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.120 I don't care about any of that, dude. I was 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.559 the first guy off the field, I was the first 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.400 guy showered, and I was the first guy at the bar. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.400 That's what was important. I'm gonna have a good time. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.000 And so like literally, you know, to sit here and 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.000 come up with a game like the first one that 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.159 came to mind was you know what I want to 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.000 talk about. I want to talk about when Crowder and 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.400 I got ejected in Miami having fun and I was like, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.599 wait a minute, no, no, no, no, there was one that 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.520 was a little bit more like your era. This game 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.520 what happened afterwards and to me and I know you're 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.719 the same way, but again, you you played the game 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.600 from a different perspective, Like your mindset was completely different. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.359 Like you can remember a lot of really cool things 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.159 that happened because you actually were involved with them, while 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.839 I was like, you know, basically trying to just catch 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.600 my breath and you know, not fall down. But this game, 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.119 in particular, what it represents to me is what most 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.520 of us seek as players after you retire, and that 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.200 is the camaraderie, the little things that happened in the 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.360 locker room during practice, during training camp, the busting of balls. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.640 Because to be honest, man, that's why I was in it. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.360 You know this. So what happened after the game, Well. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.359 It wasn't normal. I can tell you that much. So 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.800 you know, I always just tell people that, like what 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.240 was it like being in a league and what was 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.760 it like? You know, such a Belichick, But yeah, man, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.480 nine percent of it was freaking brutal. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.680 We ain't basketball baseball where you get to go on 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:06.360 road trips. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.479 You have there slapping each other in ass having a 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.320 great time right before game time. Oh no, like we're 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.480 sitting there like running in the walls. Guys are like 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:14.320 doing lines of cocon. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.719 I'm just kidding. They never did that, but it was like, 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.279 it's such. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.560 A high that everybody's assholes tight, everybody's freaked out, puckered, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.640 and especially when you have a guy who literally has 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.840 no sense of humor, like Bill, Like, it's not as 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.080 if like everything's rosy. I mean, oh my god, man, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.960 we do this shit one more time. I mean, what, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.360 We're not gonna win a fucking game. It's like, all right, coach, 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:39.680 we're sixteen and oh but. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.760 I feel like we're doing pretty good now. Something just 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.240 came into my head. Bill used to he was notorious 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:52.760 for fucking quizziness on spot, and I could have sworn 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.480 Matt Light was sleeping in a meeting and Bill tried 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.479 to catch Matt and he goes, Matt, you got all 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:01.560 the fucking answer. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.360 Exactly what he said. Actually, I was just gonna say that. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.160 Man, you got all the fucking answers. What coverage is that? 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.800 And hit? You hit the coverage? What was it like? 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:10.840 Two blit zone two C. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.360 It was like the square root in a triangle is 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.800 equal to the I'm like, and everybody turns around. They're like, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.640 because they know I sleep, Like you know I sleep. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.080 I slept through every meeting and I don't honestly my 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.360 wife was like, you're gonna get fired. Like my first year, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.680 I remember Dante Scarnekia, my line coach, would make me 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.920 stand up in the meeting room when we had our 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.120 offensive line meetings, and I would fall asleep eating a 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.240 candy bar, trying to stay awake eating a candy bar, 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.640 fall asleep standing and he would be like like if 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.360 you if you fall a sleep one more time, I 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.520 will kill you. And I'm like, oh man, like I'm 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.280 a rookie. I didn't know what was happening on that 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.840 one though, so this is the greatest right, so notorious 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.120 sleeper Copan would kick me. He sat right behind me. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.240 He would always feed me the answer too, because I 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.000 have not fuck, I don't know what Bill just said. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.160 I was asleep and so and by the way, like football, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.240 like yes, a bunch of the Anderthals, but like I 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.520 don't need to watch that seven hundred times, like all 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.640 we do is sit rewind, watch, rewind watch. So on 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.720 this one, if you think on that season, we had 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.600 a bunch of young guys and defensively, as you know, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.440 the defense could get everything. You know, Bill would be like, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.360 all right, look, you know, you know what do we 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.280 expecting you know, he'd be talking to the offense in 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.320 this situation, what are we expecting them to do? I 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.040 mean it's third down, we're in a red zone. I mean, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.040 you know, we got you know, whatever, we got trips, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.520 you know. And and he'd ask somebody a question and 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.720 it'd be like a really difficult question and we would 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.560 come up with an answer that's pretty good. He'd be like, Ah, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.440 I'm not what the fuck you know, that's not what 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.280 they're gonna do. I mean, god damn it. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:37.520 You know. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.599 I'd be watching an ounce of film and then he 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.040 would go to the defense and he'd be like, all right, guys, like, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.680 what's one plus seven? And they'd be like, uh, six 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.920 and a half and they like that's pretty close, pretty good? 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.760 All right? Now, moving on? 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:50.480 What are we talking about? 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.720 Coach? Like those guys that have no color the jerseys, right, Like, 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.640 he would give you some fucking terrible you'd give the 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.720 easiest questions. He's fucking defensive guys, and they. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.360 Always got to pass every time. So I'm listening to 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.480 this and I'm like, these cats have no idea. And 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.640 Bill's kind of pissed off. Like we had a couple 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.960 of weeks of coming in and I want some answers. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.360 It's a Wednesday morning, right, and you better have my answers, right. Well, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.400 they weren't having this, so I go on my way out. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.240 But I don't know why. I just had this this epiphany, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.360 and I walk into Coach's office, which is always awkward, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.679 like you don't go in there just to go in there. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.080 Oh no, and you got to pass Bears, the little 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.600 man purse right there at the front, right, and I 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.360 love Bears, but you know, so anyway, I go in there. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.240 Coach is working at his computer and he looks up 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.559 at me. He's like, you know, like there wasn't a question. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.120 It was just like a you know, and I'm like uh. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.400 And right then immediately I'm like why did I do this? 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.319 This is not gonna be I'm like, Coach, hey, listen, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.240 I'm like, these guys don't have the answers. They're not 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:50.920 coming in with stuff. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:51.160 I said. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.240 I thought it'd be funny if, like, you know, next 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.120 time we do this, like or the next Wednesday or whatever, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.720 you throw me some questions and I'll just rat them 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.400 off and be like shit that even Brady wouldn't know. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.880 And he's like, you know, all right, what what are 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.920 you thinking? And I'm like, uh, well, you know, like 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.840 you know, you you say something then I ran off 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.199 for an answer, and then you you try to hit 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.120 me with another one, try to catch me slipping, and 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.600 I'll just keep writing them off. And all the guys 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.720 are gonna in that way. Now they're gonna know, like, well, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:14.880 I got to get in the film room. I need 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.280 if light knows this shit, then I really need to 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.720 do a little bit more studying. And it fell on 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:20.200 deaf ears. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:20.440 Dude. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.240 He was just like, you know, look, I mean you know, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:24.839 like it wasn't like a hey, that sounds like a 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.800 great idea or that's really stupid. It was just like indifferent. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.520 So I walked out of there thinking that that failed. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.640 Three weeks go by it, I'm walking in and Bear's like, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.160 hey Bill, what's to see? And I'm like, oh snap, what. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:36.560 Did I do? 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.840 Like I totally forgot about the whole conversation, right, and 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.199 I'm not kidding. I walk in his office and immediately 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.120 he goes, all right, look, you know I'll hit you 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.880 with you know that you know what they're doing the 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.040 third down? And then I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:49.640 you about, you know, when we get into the red zone, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.000 you know what what that looks like. And then the 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.960 last one, I'm like, and he rattles off these three 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.720 questions he's gonna ask me, and I'm like, okay, and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.000 I'm like, what's the answer, Like I have no idea, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.240 Like you're speaking like I have no idea what you're 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.560 even referring to Bill? And he's like, oh well, So 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.400 I grab a pin and I start writing answers on 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.880 my hand and we go in team meeting kicks off 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.720 and he starts off with his typical I mean, you know, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.120 in the category of what we're not looking for, and 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.120 it's some Bengals, you know, problem with some guy getting 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.319 the rest of the strip club or something. Always a 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.079 Bengals player, right, I swear to God, Always a Bengals player. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.680 And then then he looks learned the Bengal formation. The 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.000 f was all the way and the inside because he 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.600 was in jail, in. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.000 Jail, easy way to remember that. So when he asked me, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.959 when he says, exactly what you said, all right, like 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.120 you got all the fucking answers, all right? Here we go, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.079 what are they doing this? And I literally just rattled 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.679 off immediately. I remember I could hear the air come 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.080 out of coping, and he's like, shit, he's awake. And 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.480 I didn't even know that one. So the next one 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.880 he throws out there, immediately answer that one, and the third one, 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.280 I'm like literally looking at my hand, of course. And 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.640 so when it's done and we leave the team meeting room, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.560 I remember the guys coming up to me and they're like, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.160 what the fuck. I'm like, heydud just get in a 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.480 film room, you know, like like I didn't acknowledge the 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.520 fact that Bill and I set that up. And you know, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.839 here's the best part, Jules. I've never had a conversation 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.920 with Bill about any of the funny stuff that's ever 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.280 happened between him and I. I have the most treasured 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.320 thing that I own in my life as an email 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.120 exchange between Bill Belichick and I. You ever get an 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.640 email from Bill Belichick ever in your history of text message? Okay, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.880 but never an email. I've never spoken to anybody that 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.920 I've ever played with, or it came after me or 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.280 before me, that's ever received an email. Like Bill doesn't 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.480 do human stuff right, Like that's a that's like a 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.640 like a human thing to do, like send an email. Yeah, 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:36.720 I got an email. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:41.280 What was his email saying? So I was a rep? 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.600 Right and I was in Hawaii the way. Let me 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.199 let me paint the picture for everyone out there. Light 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:51.679 was a rep, a union rep. And Bill took all 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:57.960 the everything out on the reps because they represented the union. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.439 And he hated like the limits, like you guys, figure 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.400 it out, what this fucking shit? 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.839 And he couldn't do anything to us because he had 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.520 Rabel on myself and and like it look and by 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.560 the way, last night, let's just let's just pause for 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.000 one moment. First of all, why was the best roaster 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.240 I've ever been around in my life? As you know, 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.319 you war words with him, you're losing, Oh, I mean, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.520 and I could hold my own in a storm. But 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.280 that cat, he's coming. He's a tidal wave of emotions. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.280 It's probably on purpose. He didn't want to cry. Tom 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:31.880 didn't want to. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.600 Cry because you know how many times Vrabel would have 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.520 Tommy Boy on tilt during practice every time I mean 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.880 he got in his ship. It was funny. So but 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.440 I will say this props to you. Last night was 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.120 phenomenal and you absolutely crushed it, and I'm not gonna 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.640 lie to you, man, I was a little nervous for 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.120 all you guys. I was live on Netflix. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.520 Man. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:54.800 Yeah, Man, you didn't even stretch. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:55.120 I didn't. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.120 I don't want no pregame routine. I didn't see it 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.080 taking energy shake. Just nailed it. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:00.000 But that was all. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.960 But Vrabel is the best I've ever been around, man. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.120 And the fact that he wasn't there, that's crazy. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.920 In like hard shots, there weren't a whole lot of 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.760 functions ever said to Tom oh Man. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.040 He went at him with everything. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:16.320 Man. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.840 There was nothing sacred to Vrabel for any reason. I 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.800 will tell you this. One of the favorite lines I 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.000 ever heard Rabel say that was directed towards me is 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.920 we had a stag night to raise money for the 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.520 Light Foundation in my hometown, right and we stopped doing 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:32.800 it because I thought, Man, there's gonna be a lot 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.280 of kids born in my little hometown that don't belong 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.720 to these daddies, and so I was like, we're gonna 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.040 and I'm telling you it became a little crazy. But 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.200 Rabe would come in town with all these other guys. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.080 We had aj Hawk when he was at Ohio State 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.320 and younger cats too right, and the mayor of my 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.200 little town, now you got to think Mayberry right. And 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.520 he gets up and he has this proclamation where he's 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.280 gonna make it matt light day, right, and he stumbles 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.200 on some words. An hour later, Rabel gets up and 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.640 we're having an auction and he's like, hey, and you 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.120 know when he gets the mic, man, it's gonna be 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.840 it's gonna be profound, and it's gonna be hilarious. He 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.880 stops everything and he goes, listen, I'll give anybody one 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.160 thousand dollars right now, they can get the mayor to 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.680 spell matriculate, because he tried using that in a sentence 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.720 and he stumbled over it and in real time, man, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.080 it was really uncomfortable, but nobody said nothing. An hour later, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.920 Vrabel has it up there on the auction block. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.640 I'll give you a thousand if you can get the 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:32.280 mayor Greenville' spell matriculate. And we lost it. But that's 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:38.560 our boy, man, that's a funny, very funny man, fucking. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.560 So so so so yeah. So he wouldn't mess with 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.880 us as reps very much. But I get home from Hawaii, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.000 long ass flight Hawaii. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.160 It was the union meetings were there. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.080 And so I was the guy that they got him changed. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.440 I passed the resolution saying if I want to Hawaii, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:01.000 I go to Hawaii. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.400 I don't want to fly all the way Hawaii. Why 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:03.240 don't we do this in the States. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.760 We got all these you know, and dude, I think 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.160 half the island wanted to kill me because that was 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.720 a big revenue. But anyway, noither here nor there. I 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.200 get home and this is like way before, you know, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.440 we live in this crazy time now where like we 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.240 think it's always been the way it is. I mean, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.160 back up ten years ago. Man, I wasn't checking emails 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:20.960 from my cell phone. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:27.000 I had make sense. Yeah, but you've got somebody that 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:33.320 will I never know what she's doing that, what is 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.840 she doing? What does she do? I don't know. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.520 So I get home, I got Jay, I've got whatever 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.840 it is like Microsoft whatever, And I get on my 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.040 thing and I'm checking my emails and there's an email 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.280 in my inbox Belichick Commo Bill and I'm thinking to myself, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.680 you know what I thought immediately, Thank god, finally one 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.720 of my offensive linemen is busting my balls. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:56.440 All the stuff I've. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.400 Done, and nobody's really come at me. And then when 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.920 I read it, I was like, Coping, you son of 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.840 a gun, because he's the only one smart enough at 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.280 the time that would have done this. So I spend 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.800 all night, like I got home at like, let's say, 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.280 ten thirty, and I missed the whole first week of 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.760 the offseason program because because I was at the meetings, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.240 I had to go. So the next the next day 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.720 was Monday, so I'm gonna be jumping in a week late. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.400 And I'm staying up till like one thirty in the morning, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.360 and I finally find a service where I can send 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.160 an email and make it look like it came from 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.840 someone else, and I know this is how Copin did it. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.560 So I write one to Copin. You spent six hours 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.800 trying to forever, dude, forever. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.480 But by by the way, you know how it is, man. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.040 You find one and it says it works, and you 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.560 test it and it doesn't work. You have to pay 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.680 for something. I'm like, this is stupid. Anyway, I found 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.679 one sent Coping an email walking the next morning, and 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.720 I'm ready to go toe to toe, but you know, 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.280 I'm never gonnadmit the shit. So when I walk past Copin, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.879 immediately he's like, you send me an email, didn't you. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.080 I'm like, did you send me an email? I'm like, 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:55.520 what are you talking about? And he's like, you know 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:56.919 what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, I don't know 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.359 what you're talking about, because he has to admit first 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.200 what he did, and then yeah, okay, let's talk about 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:02.080 it because that was pretty good. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.920 Cope, that's pretty good. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.520 We go in, we get our workout done, he doesn't 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.879 bring it up anymore, and then he comes back to 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.040 me right when we get done working out and he's like, hey, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:12.639 you did send me an email. I'm like, no, I 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.560 didn't send you an email. He's like, that's great because 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.520 somebody send me an email and it looks like something 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:16.919 you would do. 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.640 And I'm like, all right, well, if. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.520 I get an email that looks like some of you do, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.400 I'll let you know right And now as I'm walking out, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.679 we get done running right, and I'm walking out for 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.720 the day, I can't shake it. I'm like, he's not 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.040 messing around. So I see Bears and I walk in 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.960 his office and I'm like, hey, man, cause if it 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.359 wasn't Coping, there's no one else smart enough. Bears must 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.040 have sent it from Bill's email on behalf of someone else. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.600 And the minute I say something, the bears. He's like, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.720 oh no, Bill, send you an email. I'm like, come on, mail, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.679 not my first rodeo. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:45.920 Right. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.359 He literally gets up, goes into Bill's office he's in 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.600 the staff meeting, gets his computer to fire up, and 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.159 shows me in his outlook on the scent box the 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:58.320 email to me, and. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:18:59.680 It's the email. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.000 And I'm like like, immediately, I'm like, oh man, damn, 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.199 Like that goes up a notch. Right, I'll read it 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.280 for you. It's literally my prized possession. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:09.560 Yeah. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.080 So I get this and now I'm like, oh, this 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.560 is legit. So I take like four or five days 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.840 because you know me, I can't like not acknowledge this. 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.119 I have to have some kind of a response. So 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.040 I send my response and immediately I get one back. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.160 And the essence of what he sent back was We're 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.399 never going to do this again. Number one, because in 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.000 the in the subject heading it was concluding remarks, right, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:40.560 no joke, no joke. That concluding remarks and and and 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.320 to this day, and what he wrote in there, I'm 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.400 telling you this, I could lose everything every Super Bowl 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:46.359 ring I could care less. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:46.600 Man. 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.560 Possessions like that mean nothing to me. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.159 This you gotta read it, read it. 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:53.600 Get in there, man, text me and I got big 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.480 fat fingers. So we've never had a conversation. Bill Belichick 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.240 and I've never once spoken about this ever. So and 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.280 by way, I never break this out. It's one of 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.640 these things that he kind of has to be in person. Right, Okay, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.280 So here we go, here we go. All right, So 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.440 just so you can see this, Saturday, April seventh, two 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.840 thousand and seven, at two thirty four pm. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:21.840 Okay, so this is in undefeated season, yeah, going into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.640 Well that's here, yeah. 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.760 Greed in the subject heading Greetings from the NEP Off 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:32.080 season Program. Exclamation point, all right, oh okay, here we go, 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.000 end quotes. It's how it starts, Not like hey, Matt 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.000 or just wanted to touch base with you, sir. It's 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.520 a chance for us all to bond and start putting 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.639 the wheels in motion for the following season. Left tackle 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.000 Matt light set in a recent interview, the foundation is 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.480 put in place at this time of year. What you 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.240 do in March, April, May and June. What's you do 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.080 in that mini camp in the passing camp. It has 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.240 a direct effect on the beginning of your season, and 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:53.840 you have to come out of the gate swinging pretty hard. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.600 That's what we've been able to do around here. In 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.080 the quote bad right, that's. 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.320 Kool aid, it's a good quote. 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.879 Yeah, no kidding. I got asked by a reporter in 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.919 Hawaii about whatever I gave, the typical you know, do 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.600 your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt, just read this quote 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.760 from you dot dot What the fuck? 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:11.680 Question Mark? 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.040 And by the way, so you see like when I 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.679 see this, like, that's got to be coping. They're messing 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:20.919 with me. 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.480 That's not real. And Bill doesn't send emails. 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.560 We have over fifty guys here working out today, and 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.600 the one who isn't here does all the talking about 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.119 how important the offseason is. Figures a lot of your 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.399 teammates were concerned about you and asked why you weren't here. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.000 But don't worry. We let them all know that you're 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.800 in Hawaii for a week. If you want to get 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.000 something productive done out there, why don't you have him 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.880 move this meeting to the week before all in Caps 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.959 teams start their off season programs. Question Mark, very respectfully, 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.640 Yours Bill, Belichick, head coach New England Patriots. Okay, so 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.919 when you got that, if you got that, you know 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.320 that's not it's from Bill Belichick. All right, So we've 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.640 been through this. You guys got the background. It took 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.439 me day and I did elicit a little bit of 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.639 help from a family member who's far smarter than me, 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.520 and I send him this now and again, I will say, 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.000 my wife from day one always told me you're gonna 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.520 get He's gonna fire you. Like, please don't do that, Matt, 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.200 Please please don't leave here with that device. Don't put 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.119 that on anyone's you know whatever. Don't shock, don't do 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.520 what you're thinking about doing every single day, because that 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.639 will get you fired. This one I did kind of 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.080 think may I was gonna get fired Coach b. I 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.160 thought that was awesome. That was a way to go right. 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.000 First of all, allow me to apologize for not responding 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.679 earlier to your prior email. It has been my experience 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.399 limited as it may be that a reflexive response did 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.919 not serve anyone well. Thus, I felt it necessary to 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.120 permit time to militate a more measured, philosophic response. As 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.280 you are certainly better aware than anyone. We as human 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.520 beings are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a compilation 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.600 of free will, rational beings. Given this, it becomes critical 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.840 to impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit of 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.800 the order. I realized that the concept of collectivism strikes 0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.119 a measure of aberance and our rugged individualistic society. But 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:01.880 it is such a collective good that allows us all 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.760 to benefit. And it does not require a study of 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.240 the encannabulum to realize that both coaches and players gained 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.960 from a measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.720 held by the owners. Given this, in despite my commitment 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.120 to the off season programs, I felt compelled to move 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.040 forward the collective good of the players through attendants of 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.159 the PA meetings. In a long run, it is generally 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.680 for the benefit of all. My commitment to this end 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:22.920 is in no way a negative reflection on my dedication 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.360 and commitment to optimizing my personal performance to the grace 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.680 advantage of the team. Your humble, free wild left tackle 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:33.720 Matt Lait. Now that said, I figured I covered all basises, right, 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.960 that's an email basis, and I'm good and I kind 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.280 of got off my chest. Why I felt like I 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.160 needed to be in attendance right like. It didn't seem 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.440 like that big of a deal. I had no idea 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:47.359 that this would be the response to that Gibberis and 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:48.679 I got to tell you, this is one of my 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:53.120 favorite things in life again. April eleventh, twenty seven, twelve 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:58.400 forty five pms like a midday email, midday weird concluding remarks, 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.080 You're gonna love this, Matt. I need some time to 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.560 let this one settle, but I'll start with this. Why 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.439 don't you consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.240 not leading the team in once again being the most 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:15.600 penalized player on offense. Your numerous false start penalties and 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.399 evidence again at the Pro Bowl, and other transgressions like 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.800 tawning continue to make me think that your distractions off 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.480 the field affect your concentration on the field. My advice, 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.600 if you have an interest in improving your performance would 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.040 be to minimize your distractions and focus on maximizing your 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.639 physical development and technique in the off season program. That 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.439 one week really killed you. I continue to feel that 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:38.680 you were totally out of line commenting on the importance 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.919 of the program when you were not in attendance with 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:42.679 the rest of the team. Now this is what it 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.000 gets great. Finally, Matt, there is no need to use 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.240 multisyllable words in your email that neither you nor I know. 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:50.520 I am unimpressed. 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.320 This will conclude my email exchange. 0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.560 And I will return to my efforts in trying to 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.800 do a better job and coaching this football team. As 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.240 for the PA meetings, don't worry about helping me. As 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.159 I have said many times, and I remind myself, the 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.640 best thing we can do for ourselves and our families 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.920 is win all in caps. Try to keep that in 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.639 your mind for in your quest for world peace. Sincerely, 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:19.560 respectful yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, doing purchase. That's it, man, 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.280 That's all I need in life, and we've never once 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.960 acknowledged it. I played for another four seasons and it 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.960 never came up in a conversation. Never or the fact 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.280 that I fired him and he lost all of his information. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.879 That never came up, although he did stop me in 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.639 the hallway and he said, I like you ever go 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:38.360 in my office again? 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.399 Yeah, what did you do? I heard that story once 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.120 he went into his office and what did you do? 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:42.560 So? 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.280 I had this remote right. And again this is back 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.879 in the day when this stuff didn't really exist. But 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.239 I was always surfing the net and it was a 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.159 mouse and it plugged in actually, but they didn't do 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.240 anything when you plugged in. You couldn't actually control the mouse. 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.800 But there were I don't know how you get this 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.880 much energy out of two triple A batteries, but those 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.119 two triple A batteries, when you hit that mouse button, 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.160 it would send like Jesus through your body, like real quick. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.240 And so he was in a staff meeting was it 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.000 was in training camp, and nobody was there. So I 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.160 slip in and I'm on. 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:12.640 My way out. 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.240 They're still working really hard, trying to make us better. 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.600 And I go in and I put that thing on 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.800 his laptop on his desk. I come in the next morning, 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.160 you know, dying next killing me. It's like the start 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.639 training camp. I'm not even thinking about what I did 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.720 to night before. And Ben Bears is like immediately when 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:33.000 I walk in, he's like not good, like like seriously like, 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.960 and you can see in his eyes like the bear, 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:37.560 the Bears, the bear. 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.120 He not good. 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.840 And I'm like, what, but I know I know what 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.119 he's saying, right, but I'm like, what are what are 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.320 you talking about? Deny to you die? And he's like 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.080 just telling you. It's not good man. What happens is 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.120 not good. And I'm like, hey, look, I can't play 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.840 this game right now. I gotta go get ready. So 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.520 I walk into the meal room. And when I walk 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.280 in there, Matty p Is just got some toast or something, 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.000 and he turns around and he sees me and he's like, 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.440 you're an idiot. And I'm like what, I'm like, you 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.680 two and he's like, hey man, he's fired up and 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.680 because of your dumb ass, we spent like two more 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.240 extra hours here last night. And I'm like for what 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.760 and he goes, well, he goes, I know it was you. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.360 And when he shocked himself. The first time he had 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.400 he had his hand off the keyboard. The second time 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.760 his hand hit the keyboard and it deleted his notes. 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.760 You know how he takes notes everything of everything, everything, Like, hey, 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.919 by the way, this is crazy, man. Here's here's a 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:34.240 great example. We're let's say we're playing the Jets and 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:39.120 it's it's it's Monday afternoon, so we're playing a divisional game. Right, 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.920 It's we're coming off a loss on the road, and 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:47.040 you know, we we have a two key players on 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.320 defensive went down. He'll go back in his notes and 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.320 do keyword search or something, and he'll find a scenario 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.120 that mimics that almost to a t. And then he'll 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.280 look and see, how did I address the team. Did 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.880 I go hard on him? Did I take it easy 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.760 on him? Did I push him? And how hard did 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.040 I push him? Did we practice a certain way? What 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:04.520 was the outcome? How did it come out? 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.440 All that stuff gets analyzed. 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.520 Man, that's the craziness in the complexity that a lot 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.439 of people don't realize. I don't know how much that 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.119 weighs in his success or whatever else, but that's who 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:16.480 he is. 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:16.760 Right. 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.080 So when now, by the way, first time he didn't 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:21.600 have his hand on a keyboard, the second time he 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.159 shocked himself, he did, and it closed in a program. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:25.919 The way I look at that is you're an air repeater. 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.679 That the first one was my fault, second one that's 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.080 your fault. Now we didn't talk about that, but I 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.679 will say this. When he lost that, that was not 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.000 a good day because it wasn't like auto save apparently, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.160 so all of his notes for that day apparently went 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.920 by by and what I thought was real, So I 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.760 wanted to go get my mouse, but I left that 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:45.239 thing in there. 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:45.600 Buddy. 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.280 Once I heard about that one, I was like, yeah, 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.560 that thing's going on. I mean literally he said something like, 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.400 I mean he stopped me. And by the way, Bill's 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.000 kind of like Tommy, like, I have no idea how 0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:58.800 tim he got from one meeting room to the next. 0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.520 I don't know if he floated in the atmosphere, he 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.080 like like became particles and just reappears like in weird places. 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.160 Obviously he didn't shower time. He never showered. 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:08.360 Never. 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.440 Nobody ever saw him in there weird. 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:12.880 Well, actually I see him a couple of times. He'd 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.720 have the two shower heads on him. Ember he would 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:19.720 be in the corner sometimes rarely shower heads. I'm like, dude, yeah, 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.600 I had two showers I know, and neither one of 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.320 those heads wanted to be pointed to him. No, seriously, 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.520 Like the water was like, he's he's hydrophobic, like it 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:30.840 like water doesn't like him. He got to think about it. 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.360 He probably goes to like his sick home where like 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.360 he's got like hydrogen based water. 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:43.640 No, I'm listen I think he has every day. I 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:48.960 think so seriously, it's Alex little tiny hands, like, so 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.000 what did Bill say? 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:51.000 Hey man? 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.720 He was fired up. He basically told me if you 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.240 go in my office again, I will kill you. And 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.800 of course I did not. I'm like, coach, what are 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.600 we even talking about? He's like, you know exactly what 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.440 we're talking about. I really don't, I said, but I'm 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.160 gonna get some food here, I'll see in the meeting room. 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.040 And and but it was weird because Maddy p came 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.920 at me and so the Bears and I thought it. 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.840 I thought they were like flipping it on me right, like, oh, 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.680 we're gonna make him think that. You know, coaches really 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.600 fired up? No coaches because Dante was the last one, 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.200 because you know Dante doesn't mess around. Dante was real 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.480 matter of what did say, Like, He's like, I don't think. 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:20.960 That was a good idea. 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:22.800 You probably shouldn't go in the head coach's office. And 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.960 I'm like you too, I'm like, I don't know what 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:25.800 you're even talking about. 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.160 So did you deny it? 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.000 Till day to forever forever? But that's the so again, 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.040 we didn't have a conversation about it. It wasn't like at 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.360 some point he came to me. It was like, hey, 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.240 that shit was kind of funny. You got me that 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.560 sh had hurt, you know, like we cool to acknowledge 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.880 any of this, Like, hey, remember that email you sent me? 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:43.960 Like that was funny. But there's a part of me 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:48.520 that believes, like what he reiterated on his concluding remarks email, 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.080 that he was kind of serious. 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.080 You know what I'm saying that serious. He may have 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.680 been dead serious. He probably would try to kill you 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.240 if you went in his office again. I bet sure 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.640 he got cameras put in for that. Probably. 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.840 You know, he probably had Brigs sitting there like with 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.440 like some Samurai sword waiting for me to walk in. 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.360 By the way, brit Briggs legit s a s yeah, 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:13.640 I mean a head of our security. I mean, this 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.920 dude was a legit miss leg Yeah. Did miss a 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.800 leg get bit by a shark or something? That was 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.360 always the rumor that because it was a swimmer. 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.520 Yeah, it was like his shark took his leg off. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.160 Guy's British too. Yeah, the meanest motherfucker you'll ever meet. 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.400 Hey, do you remember when he and I had a 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.360 serious confrontation Now in San Francisco. I don't think I 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.480 was there outside the meeting room. 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:37.080 I wasn't there. 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.120 Oh I think you had to have been when we 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.000 went back to back. We played to West Coast always 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.520 right before you got there, that's right though. Oh man, 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.880 it was great. So I had this girl that stole 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.520 from us and uh, she was like a babysitter, girl 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.640 that stole from you. Yeah yeah, like not not not 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.000 anything like that, but she was. 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:56.360 She was. 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.240 She was babysitting and she ended up taking like jewelry, 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:00.920 and she's like that. She came from a good home. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.360 She had one of those sicknesses where she's like stealing stuff, 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:04.320 which I kind. 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.880 Of like that. It's kind of cool, you know what 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.080 I'm saying. Keep your eye on the green flag. 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.720 Yeah yeah, listen, I won't I won't take nothing from me. 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.240 But she so we caught her on the cameras. Now 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.080 we're on the West Coast, and you know how they 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.560 always tell you, right like, hey man, if anything comes up, 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:22.680 give it to us. We'll offload it. We want you 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.760 to focus on football. So I kind of like doing 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.320 things on my own, right, But on this one, I'm like, 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.880 all right, we're far away from home. So Briggs is 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.840 there obviously running security, and I said, hey, may can 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.280 you just have your guys deal with this? And dude, 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.720 it was like the easiest thing in the world. Don't 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.040 tell the girl what we know she stole. Just interrogate 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.400 her and make her confess to what she took, right, like, 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.959 you know, like if you're going to introgate some mean 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.520 you don't let them know, like, hey, we know you 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.520 took this, this, this, and this, what else did you take? 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.240 Well? No, I didn't take anything else. You got it? 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.640 Like you make her spell out because if she doesn't 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.160 say all the stuff we know she took, we got 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:56.800 her on camera, then she's lying. 0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:57.760 Dude. 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.680 It was like freaking the worst you know, detective work. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:03.000 Ever. 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.760 They get her in there and they basically literally say, 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.840 we know you took this, this exactly what not to do. 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.640 So I lost my mind. I'm like, hey, man, you 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.560 had one job like Bill does, and and and you know, 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:18.280 Briggs like, hey for you, And I'm like, I'm gonna 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.320 take your leg and beat you with that thing. And 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.840 that was the wrong thing to say, because actually I 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:23.520 love Briggs. 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.840 Briggs he is when you get to know what when 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.040 you're new he hates you. 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:29.920 Hates you, Well he's got it. That's like a whole 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.520 British thing, man, Like what false superior? Then you idiots? 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.560 You know, we own your country, Like no, you lost. 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.480 The war revolutionary, Yeah you lost. Yeah we want part 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:41.719 up with the damn French. 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.200 But but if your essays, man, regardless of whatever, beat that, 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.640 those guys are legit, real deal. And he was a 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:49.880 good man, So. 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.760 What did what did? So you yelled at him and 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:52.520 San Francisco. 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.400 But Bill's Bill was coming down because we're getting ready 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.080 to go in the meeting room, and it was like 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:58.840 right at the start of like one of those days. 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.680 You know how weird it is when you're hotel and 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.960 you got team meeting in the big room and you 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.120 have these breakout rooms and we're sitting out there and 0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.160 we're going at and Bill basically walks out. He's like, 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.759 all right, what what are we doing? 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.600 I mean, what the fuck? And I was like, this 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:11.720 guy's an asshole. 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.600 And the girl got away with him. Man, you know, 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.960 oh yeah, dude, scot Free. Hey, by the way, that's 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:20.360 isn't that our world? 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:20.799 Right? 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.520 Like, hey, you know we're not going to prosecute robbery. 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.920 Oh Okay, that's a good idea. I'm sure they'll quit. 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.320 By the way, the guy before Briggs was a madman, 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:34.120 Frank Mendy's who Frank got the boot and uh and 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.200 our boy Briggs. He came in when Frank chewed out 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.360 the wrong guy. He was like a Craft family member. 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.399 Frank didn't last night longer, No, no, good man. 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.000 How about that Brady roast last night? 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.200 There was a there was a part of me that wondered, 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:50.160 how is this gonna work? 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:50.399 Live? 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:55.960 Event live? Kevin, I will say, Man, as funny as 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.720 that dude is on everything I've ever seen, he nailed 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:00.719 it like last night, Man. 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.560 And it was so impressive to watch those guys, like 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.799 the professionals, because I was watching the teleprompter the whole time, 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.000 like seeing are they going to hit it at this right? 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.440 And they would just like segue and do their own shit. 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.560 They would say the same thing in a different way 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.600 and then yes, like it's it's an it's fucking a skill. 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.439 A true profession And as we were talking earlier, Man, 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.040 like those guys support each other so much, you know, 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.200 to me, mos, yeah, comics, like I think it's it's 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.359 probably one of the most intimidating things from a professional standpoint, right, 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.240 like if you're going to get to where you're well 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.200 known and recognized, but then to sustain it, right, and 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.120 and you think about like like in football analogy, right, 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.080 like winning back to back, that's really really hard to do, 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.399 right it We did it, and and you know it's 0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.040 it's one of those things where we can we came 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.839 really close at other times, but to actually do it. 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:55.960 And so for these guys, some of these guys have 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:57.399 had hit it. I mean you think about a Dave 0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.640 Chappelle who was there last night. You know, you think 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.560 about Bert and some of these new guys that have 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.080 been rising over the last five, seven, eight years, right, 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.520 how they do it? They do Jim Gaffigan was there 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:12.600 last night. I mean, all these iconic comedians and and 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.719 what was cool was that they were all throwing a 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.600 lot of love and a lot of shade to each 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.120 other because I think that even though they may be 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.239 competing for the same dollars or whatever, right and all 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.400 that there's the total love amongst all of them. Yeah, 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:32.439 and and and Kevin though, Kevin Man, dude, he was man. 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.400 If somebody did something like when Gronk grabbed the wrong 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.839 thing or when you know or when by the way, 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.400 you see him back that teleprompter up. 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.000 I was like that. 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:42.680 He's like, he's like, no, back back back, back, back back. 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:44.279 But if you were at home, you probably have no 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.200 idea none. That was just him being Kevin, but he was. 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:48.799 He was legitimate. The whole thing was great, though. 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.480 I thought it was. The comics are kind of like 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:56.320 the linemen put in the work. Yeah, real sexy grinders. 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.400 Yeah yeah, all kinds of weird have had trauma. In 0:36:59.400 --> 0:36:59.759 the words. 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.400 Bert would be a good lineman. 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.320 Though. Bert is a lineman. 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.640 Yeah, he kind of. Yeah, but he's looked a little 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:07.399 skinnier than I thought. 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.480 He's been working out. He's been working out, but like 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:11.520 he has Liman heart. 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.640 Too much ego, too much, too much ego from Bert 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.759 to be a lineman. Yeah, we can say that he's 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.560 been here, Okay, friend of the show, friend of the show. 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.040 Yeah, yeah, he had my joke last night. 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.040 By by the way, he was he was loving your set, man. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.839 I was watching Bert, Bert, Tom all those guys are 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.799 loving you. You you you did knock out the park. 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.600 Like I said earlier, I was a little intimidated for you. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.640 I was actually really worried about Gronk because he was 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.680 amped up and he starts getting a little jeer. You know 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.319 which way that golden retriever is going to go? 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:53.200 Man? He may yeah. 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.960 Oh I love him by the way I took him hunting. 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.120 This was such a special moment and I can't wait 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.440 to get him out again. Although I don't think his 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.239 missus likes the fact that he goes out and kills 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.359 animals with me. But that's okay. We eat every one 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.320 of them. We shot this deer, he said, light of 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.799 He goes, he goes, you know how good wild game is. 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.920 I'm like, yeah, that's all I eat. He's like, oh man, 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.160 it's like really good. Have you ever had an elk? 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.080 I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, just butchered one the other day. 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.120 He's like, oh no, Kidney. He goes, I want to 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.920 go hunt with you. I'm like, all right, cool. So 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.560 I'm like, hey man, but you got to come out 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.120 and take some shots. We got to get your hunter 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:26.680 safety course all this stuff. He's like, no, no, I 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.360 want to watch you kill. That's really not you hunting. 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.440 But all right, so I got this this tag. We 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.359 go out, I shoot this deer, and my dog goes 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.759 to track it, right, because that's what he does. My 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:43.240 dog can't find it, and Gronk is wearing like zubas 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.440 and tennis shoes, and we had to go into like 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.920 the thick, gnarmally nasty thorns everything. So my dog finally 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.160 gets on this deer and we're trying to keep. 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:52.480 Up with it. 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.040 Gronk's like caught in a briar patch and he's like, 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:57.719 is there ticks. I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of ticks. 0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:57.839 Man. 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.080 I'm like, you better check yourself, like legit. And so 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.799 we finally get up on this hill and my dog 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.880 stopped barking. I've had it. I've had it. I do 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.120 have crowns. YEAHI bill noted that in front of the world. 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.719 That was nice. I got one for him. I got 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:15.040 one for him. But we finally catch up my dog 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.239 the funk up? What do you say exactly? First of all, 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.840 he is lucky I didn't have the mic because I 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.360 would have had a field day with his ass that 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:24.040 one right now. 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.120 Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. So my dog we 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.480 get to this deer and Gronk and I witnessed my 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.759 dog jump on the back of this buck and ride 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.960 him down the hill and they're fighting and he's like, 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.799 we gotta save your dog. I'm like, I'm not going 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.520 anywhere near that. I'm like, you can go in there 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.399 and save my dog what you want, and it was 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:44.160 it was classic. 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:45.680 He did. 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.680 And then he actually helped gut it in the whole 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.560 nine and he I gave him whole bunch of steaks 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.879 off it and he got to eat his wild gay man, 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:58.960 good man, you're gonna come hunt with me at some point, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:01.879 Not really that, that's kind of like. 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.480 We did vesant hunting on that property. And then the 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.040 guy cooked a pheasant pizza or something with the oh yeah, 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:09.760 some good stuff. It is good. 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.719 You take anyone else hunting, just uh, let's see Saturday, 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.480 before we flew out out here to La we uh 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.680 met up with Brew and his son. 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:20.040 That was awesome. 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.760 Had a great hunt man turkey season. 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.120 I think I remember, didn't you like post up on 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.040 the Patriot property and take some fucking deers down or 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.440 something or was it a turkey? 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.400 I pulled up and I hunted that property forever because 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.840 mister Kraft was like, I mean, look, he's like, I 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:42.319 don't know anything about what you're doing. 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:43.040 I'm like, all right, cool. 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.239 It was like a green light, right, so I would 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.239 hunt right behind a stadium. Were that Lawtons Farm close 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:48.680 to that, right? 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:49.080 Yeah? 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.720 And they're great people. I went in one morning and uh, 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.759 this is is before practice. This is before yeah, and 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.920 this is the off season. And uh, I go to 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.320 set up in. One of the security guys comes over, you, 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.680 like the guy with like the weird lazy eye. 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:04.080 And uh. 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:09.040 He's like, he's like, hey man, you can't be here. 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.799 And I'm like, huh, I'm like no, I'm gonna park 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.120 it over here. I'm gonna go in here and kill 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.239 this bird. I've roosted him last night, like I know 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.759 where he's at. And by the way, it's three in 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.319 the morning. It's dark, you know what I mean. So 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.319 and I got my backpack, I got my bow and 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.160 everything ready to rock. And he's like, no, Briggs said, 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:26.680 you can't be here now. That's just like and this 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.759 is the off season, right after that little kerfuffle. So 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.920 I'm like, hey, listen, because you know Briggs lives like right. 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.600 Around the corner on the property. 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.120 Yes, I said, if Briggs doesn't want me here, go 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:39.600 wake his ass up and tell him to come out 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.799 here because you're not stopping me. And I'm walking right there. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.160 So I get my stuff and he's like kind of mumbling, 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.200 and I walk right in. I set my tent up, 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.239 I wait for it to get light. Bird gobbles flies down, 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.440 sits right next to my decoy. I shoot him, I 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.920 breast him out, I take him in. I always put 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.799 him in the fridge there in the meal room, and 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.239 actually some of the sometimes the chefs there would would 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.200 cook up some stuff for me. 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:01.720 It was awesome. 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:06.239 But anyway, as I'm eating breakfast, Bill walks in and 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.080 he's like, I mean, look, what are we you know, 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.160 what are we doing? You can't you can't have a 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.320 fucking weapon on stadium property. 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:13.359 And I go what. 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.640 I go, Hey Bill, this, I go, the reason you're 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.280 hearing about this is because you know, Briggs is a dickhead. 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.239 I'm like, I've hunted this thing forever. He's like, I 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.560 don't give a damn what you've done. You can't have 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.160 a weapon on stadium property. I go, Bill, it says 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.440 you can't have a handgun. You can't have a gun 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:31.880 on gon't. I don't shoot a gun. I had a 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.959 bow and arrow. He goes, this is awesome. He goes, 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.560 you want to argue with me about what the rules say. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.320 I mean, the guy's pretty good at knowing what the 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.960 rules are. I'm not gonna lie to here. And when he. 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.560 Said that, I started second guessing myself. I'm like, oh damn, 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:50.080 maybe it did say weapon. And so now the only 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.719 thing I can pivot to. I'm like, I'll go, I go, okay, Bill, 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.200 So I checked Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary at the 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:55.640 door too. 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:56.600 I go, these are deadly. 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.080 That's my only thing I had, right, And I remember 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:00.759 the other guys that we're in the meal room, like 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.520 the younger guys. You're looking at me like, damn. 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.480 Dude, like that's your heck out. You probably shouldn't be 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:04.920 saying that. 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.880 And Bill's like, hey, look, I don't want to hear 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.200 about it. Don't don't bring anything on here ever again. 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:10.280 And he walked away. 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:12.680 And I'm like, oh, man, that maybe i'd been a 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.759 great idea. But yeah, yeah I did. I had a 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.239 little little hunt that morning, and that may have been 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.200 the last time I did that. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.120 How did you stay on the pats for eleven years? 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:21.520 I don't know. 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.399 I don't know, man, I don't know. Did you ever 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.040 see the did you ever see the video right before 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.879 one of the Super Bowls? Or were you there when 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.919 I did the Harry Carey. 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:36.040 I saw the video. I remember, didn't you do like 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.200 a video around where he was like massaging you or something? 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.080 Or yeah? 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.600 I think Rabel for the happy ending. And by the way, 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.160 I did that shot that because you know how the 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.960 again the defense with all their little perks. You remember 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.640 how they would show a funny video the night before 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.839 the game and they would have something and they would 0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.759 all be cutting up, laughing over there while we're getting 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.120 dog cuss you guys suck and like having a great time. 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.080 So Bill came up to me, or it may have 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.440 been Maddy p one of one of the defensive coaches, 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:05.520 and was like, hey man, we want you to do 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.440 this video. We do a video for us. And I 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.279 used to always do Harry carry right, so it was. 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:16.480 A Harry carry real quick. A Mike Rabel, you're a 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.080 good Maya. You're a good Maya. I love you, Rabel. 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.960 If you're bilk Hayes's off to sit youl anyway. 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.480 If the boot were made of spare cheese, so we 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.520 would do that and have fun, right, And I did 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.680 that video, and I remember there's a security castle on 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.919 this he maybe I was on a treadmill for a while, 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.719 like half naked, and I don't even know why, like 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.399 it was just stupid stuff. And I remember I had 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.880 to get glasses. So there's a security guard that had 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.040 these big coke bottle glasses. And this is like right 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.160 before the Super Bowl, and like I'm trying to like 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.480 be serious, you know, like like I did take the 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:49.880 game serious, but they're like. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:50.760 Yeah, you got this vesus. 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.080 I'm like, oh god, say the video cruise video. And 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.120 I remember the guy had to sit in a chair 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.879 and couldn't move because he couldn't see his like right here. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.080 So this poor secure Guardy's just sitting there forever while 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.879 I'm wearing his coke bottle glasses doing some stupid Harry 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.520 carry bit. And I remember, thank god we won that 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:12.400 super Bowl because I remember mister Kraft apparently got ahold 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.600 of it and played it for all the people on 0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.520 this private jet on the way home. Because I met 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.439 some of them. They're like, we watched this awesome video 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.919 of you on the way back to the super Bowl, 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:24.239 And I was like, what though, yeah, I don't know, man, 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.719 I think that's why they kept me. It wasn't my 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:27.399 stellar play. 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:28.960 I can tell you that much. You didn't get cut. 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.000 You got cut. No, no, no, I'm just saying that. 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:33.560 I think that's why I made it as long as 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.480 I did. Oh Bill was like, oh, he's gonna do 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.399 something stupid. Yeah, you know, fucking Bill. 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.719 Take us back to Ohio. What was the young man like? 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.719 Like, I wanted to be a game warden until I 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.560 found out that they don't. They don't get paid very 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.920 much money. You know what's crazy? Man grew up in 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.719 a small little town Homa, Antioakley. Yeah, a little miss 0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:58.160 sure shot. You know anything about her? While Bill Coate 0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.480 Bill Hiccott. 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.439 Like, no, I can't stay. I don't know anything about 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.719 She's like a little missure shot. She had a feed 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:07.080 her family. Absolutely not Matt oh Man, Wow, this is terrible. 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.120 Okay, So anyway, so you're not gonna probably go to 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.480 the Anioki Museum in a Gars museum, that's that's not 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.759 a big deal. Small little town, big farming community. I'd 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.600 never seen a game until I played the one, right, 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.600 so I didn't know Prudue was in the big ten 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.680 I'd never seen a college game. My dad severe polio. 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.120 Growing up, right, we didn't do sports. We were into 0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:30.160 the outdoors, you know, pre eighteen hundred encampments, running around 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.400 doing crazy stuff hawking, knife competition, hunting, fishing. 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.040 Did you ESPN stuff like where they would do like 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.480 the axine and loved it. 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.480 Yeah, it was the best, man, I used to watch it. 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.920 You ever watch you guys? Know who Marty Stalfer is? 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:50.040 You ever heard that name? No, I'm Marty Stalfer. Welcome 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.840 to Our Wild America. That's not my favorite show growing up, dude, 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.640 he like take you out, show you neat thing, like 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:59.239 here's a pine Martin. They're really clever and he like 0:46:59.320 --> 0:46:59.799 film them. 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:01.319 I mean it was awesome, dude. 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:05.880 It's almost like Bob Ross meets you know, like David Attenborough. 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:06.160 David. 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.120 Yeah, there we go without the British accent. David Attenborough 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.640 is a badass, so, sir, sir, by the way, Sir 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.400 David Attenborough. So anyway, that was my world. Man, growing up, 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.600 small little town. I had no idea to get a scholarship. 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.720 You play high school? You played high school football? 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.640 Oh yeah, man, I played well. My mom did not 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.200 want me around so like like I played pee wee, 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.000 I was. I was in football in my life, but 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.240 and terrible, really terrible. 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:27.840 I was tied end. 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.239 I went to Purdue as a tight end for some 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.360 unknown reason. I never did anything athletic. Ever, I was 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:34.640 never a tight end in the high school. 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:38.760 You keep on saying that, bro, you're like an undersized tackle. 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.000 You have to be athletic. 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.239 Well, no, I I can, I could I have. I 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.160 have decent short space quickness, I think is what they said. 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.080 You know, here's an awesome one. Right, So for you, 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.480 how'd they describe you for the combine? 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:51.880 Do you remember that? 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:52.839 You do remember the right. 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.400 Up for your backer than fast doesn't have a position. 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:56.600 You guys have this right up? 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.280 Can you guys research this right up? Yeah? Yeah, okay, 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.800 go ahead, keep going. Quicker than fast doesn't have a position, 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.240 played against shitty talent. 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.680 This is depressing. I wasn't going this route. Get it out, though, 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:12.560 get it over with. They were wrong, They were dead wrong. 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.439 Yeah they were. 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:16.440 But the but they describe things right. 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:22.000 Like what I'm getting at is white guys smart works hard. 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:26.480 Yeah yeah, ever guy, ever, guy, yeah, ever, guy? 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.239 I love how all white guys are guys you know 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.640 what I mean, like blazing speed. Nope, he's an effort guy. 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.000 He's a gym rat, loves the game. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.280 Is in there, I'm looking here. Ken State staff comments 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:42.160 on Julian Edelman from Fall two thousand and eight, upper 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:46.520 echelon worker, knows his physical limitations. 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.759 He likes be, likes to be s what's that mean? 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:55.239 Bullshit? Wonderfil started podcast yelling at people. We do love 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:55.760 the bullshit. 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.680 Once the ball in his hands, football instincts will help 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.600 him as a wide receiver, has the feet to play 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.279 defensive back. They're right about that, most competitive guy I've 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:07.000 ever coached. 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.280 See that seed. But that's pretty good remarks, you know, mindset, 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:15.560 all right, So there's a lot of things that that 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.239 you can say about an offensive lineman, right, They talk 0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.040 about lower body strength, has a good wing span, real 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.520 good punch, great drive off the ball, initial contact, you know, 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.680 drops his hips. I mean, there's all kind of really 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:27.920 short space quickness. 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.200 Blah blah blahlah blah. 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.560 None of that was said for me, you know, you 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.400 know mine said, I swear to God, basically mine was. 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:35.840 He's coachable. 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.040 That's it. That's it. 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.479 He's coachable. And I don't even know why that would 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.200 even translate to anything that would actually help me get drafted. 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.280 But basically I was coachable and having never seen anything, 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.520 never seen a draft in my life. When I got 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.120 drafted by New England, I thought I was going to 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:53.080 some other country. 0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.040 I didn't know where New England was either. I had 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:55.680 no clue. 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.399 Man, I wouldn't have been able to throw at dark 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:58.160 and come close. 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.160 No, I knew because of Madden. I didn't you know 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.440 where Foxborough was though, never heard of it because you 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.000 guys are winning Super Bowl. So I used to play 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:05.160 with the. 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:09.279 Guys and once in a while, yeah became relevant. Yeah, 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:10.040 So that was my world. 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:10.239 Man. 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.080 I I didn't know anything about the game of football, 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:15.719 you know, blessed to do it. And and honestly, man, 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.160 you know, just just the people we got in those 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.759 early years, especially man like the you know, I think 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.520 back on these guys, these guys like Roman Fighter and 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:28.239 Grant Williams and so many guys that you know, the 0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:37.400 uh Rodney man, oh man, you know Jermaine Wiggins. You know, gosh, man, 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.359 we had Mike Compton's we had we had all these 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.960 guys that we didn't have our you know, we weren't 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.200 individually announced. You know, that was a big deal. But 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.759 that's because none of us, you know, were above the other. 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:52.279 Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:55.120 Like I used to always say this man Bill could 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.759 do it the way he did it, and he could 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:58.880 drive all of our dicks in the dirt every single 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.320 day because we were all in the same pit of despair. 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.239 If if there was somebody that was up on a 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.360 ledge looking down on us, that was a teammate, it 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.160 wouldn't have worked, you know, when you and by the way, 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.560 there were times that he did show some favoritism and 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.800 that's when things got ugly in the locker room defense. 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.480 Defense. But but but if we had a good practice 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.359 on offense, we had a bad practice as a team. Yeah, 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.200 Like if we dominated the defense, we had a bad practice, 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:28.120 no doubt. 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.320 But there were guys that he did put on a 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.920 little bit of a pedestal and it created problems. 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.640 Who like an ad when Ad. 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.719 Got there, you know what I'm saying, Like there was 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.200 there was there was some difference shown in certain ways. 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.239 I mean, you know, like he didn't let Tommy off, 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.719 you know, off of anything like he if there was 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.520 an issue, it was coming out in the team meeting 0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:52.200 room full tilt with the number one guy in the league. 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.920 He did not care. But I think that's why. You know, 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.360 when you're all in the same pit together, if you 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.080 don't rally as a group, it gets real. 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.719 Bad, it does. We all dragging our dicks in the 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.719 dirt together. That's a fact. Now you play with Drew 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:13.040 Brees at Purdue. Any good Drew Brees stories. 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:14.560 How was Drew love that guy? 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:14.839 Man? 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.200 Guy has not changed to this day? 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:21.160 Yeah, well he has actually got that scar removed. Pernic 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:27.480 what is it? Pernic? What we named it? We did? 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.480 We actually named it and we had the rookies doing 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.760 rookie skits at Purdue, and one of my favorite ones 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.279 was we talked these guys in the glue and a 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:41.200 dry eraser to their face to represent Pernic because dude, 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.799 Pernic used to be real hairy. I'm talking like that 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:50.359 was like a chinchilla. And hey, look, man, God love him, you. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.439 Know, and Pernik's a good guy too. 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.640 But we had some fun, man, we you know, we 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.800 had We had so much fun at Perdue that I 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.399 think think they still talk about our era going through there, 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:05.560 and to a degree, I kind of feel the same 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.359 way about our time in New England. Oh yeah, we 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.400 had so much fun. We did it at such a 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:14.560 high level. But we you know, after games, we all 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:18.120 went out together. Oh yeah, you know. But I think 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:19.880 that's the one thing that I look at now and 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.719 I feel kind of sorry for these guys. You know, 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:26.080 it's a different world. But if you have strong leaders, 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:27.960 you can still have fun as a team. 0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:28.760 Yeah. 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.600 I don't think that, but you had to sacrifice. 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:30.759 Man. 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.279 Somebody has to plan it, somebody has to take the 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.440 time to organize it and get them together. And I 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:38.560 don't think guys are as willing to do that today 0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:40.880 as we were back in the day, because everybody's got 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.440 a brand, everybody's got something they want to push, and 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.640 what they don't realize is is that, man, when you 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.160 take the time to do those little things like we 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.640 had the Fat Man Cup Series two thousand go kart 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:51.480 race where we ruined every go kart. We probably put 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.720 this place out of business. It was all the linemen. 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.959 It was awesome, wrecked them all the time. 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.080 Were you You're the one planning all this stuff, right. 0:53:58.040 --> 0:53:59.840 I mean it was me, but it was also guys 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:01.960 like Joe andrewsy I mean, you know it was typical 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.160 offensive guys, and we're smarter. 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:08.439 Than I mean, I say it all the time on TV. 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.600 And and by the way, you remember how great those 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:13.680 Halloween parties were. 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.680 I didn't go. I was too young, really yeah, and 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.719 it wasn't cool enough yet I didn't get to go 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.279 to the infamous one where Bill came as a butup, 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:27.880 I mean, a pirate. It was fitting. It was damn fitting. 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:29.480 I could. 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:33.120 I can remember this about you, man, I remember you know, 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:34.920 and I know you had this all the time too, 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:38.000 but people, you know, whenever you had a break during 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.640 camp or you know whatever, or you're talking to somebody, 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:42.680 people had ask you, like, man, who's the new dude 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:46.160 in camp that impresses you? And I remember I was like, hey, man, 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.080 I don't know how it's going to work out, but 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.239 this little Edelman dude, this this kid wants it. He's 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.520 gonna he's going to be a damn good player. And 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.080 I'm like, oh, man, I don't even know that, you know, 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.879 I think I heard that, and I'm like, no, trust me, man, 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.279 this kid's going to be unbelievable. And I I remember 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.600 saying that about you, and people kind of like bulking 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.359 at the idea and then they didn't take long. 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:05.640 Man. 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.560 I mean, hats off man your career. I wish, I 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:09.720 wish we played longer together. 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.200 But I did too, because I used to hang out 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.200 with lining guys a little bit. Oh yeah, you know, 0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:16.440 I'd go hang out with you guys. You guys like 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:21.920 I was a young player, and Thanksgivings and and you know, 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.960 holiday stuff. You guys always invited me over, and I'd 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.840 always go over the house. And you guys just like 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:29.440 I used to call you big Bear goals, you know. 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.759 And I was a little gipper, little gipper, you know, 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.960 and he always you know, Matt was a fucking superstar 0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.560 already at the time. And you know, when you're a 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.840 young guy and you have one of your premier players 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.279 on the team, that's like putting his arm around you. 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.560 Like that gives a younger guy so much confidence and 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:52.399 like that sense of belonging, you know, which you don't 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.320 feel that a lot were you on nine? I was nine. 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:59.040 That's right, Your Tommy came back, you know. 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.280 You know what I remember, man, I stuck around till eleven. 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:05.319 Oh, I remember you told me in the shower. You 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.680 told me in the shower, I go because I didn't 0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:09.560 play that much in the Super Bowl, and I remember 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.359 I go up and I'd always ask you after games, like, hey, 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:16.400 you come out healthy, man, good You're like, I'm done, bubs, 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:19.440 or you shaid I'm done. I retire right in the shower, 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.239 Remember that I do? You know what? Man? 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.279 With a year of my contract. The only thing I 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.960 was thinking about at that time was it was probably 0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.880 the best season I had in my career. Obviously, we 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.240 didn't win when it mattered the most, and that's fine, 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:36.880 you know, that's football, right, But to me, it was like, man, 0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:39.920 and my daughter was closer to being out of my 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.440 home than in my home Jesus. And the realization at 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:45.400 that time was, you know what's like what is truly 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.480 most important? I mean, look, I was having fun. I 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:51.000 always had fun, but it was there was a cultural 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.839 shift my last few years, right. So when you came 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.600 in to know nine, that's when I started to sense 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.600 that guys like I don't know. Remember I used to 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:00.400 walk through the locker room and not guys phones out 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:01.840 of their hand and be like, hey man, you know 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:03.080 that guy right next to you, like. 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:05.400 You're number thirty, he's thirty one. 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:06.920 And you guys should talk to each other. 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:08.600 This is really awesome, Like. 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.520 This would be really cool. Look at you guys, Look 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:15.239 at you guys. There was there was a shift in 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.640 how we did things. It was hard to get guys 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.640 to do stuff off the field together, you know what 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.640 I mean. And I started to get a little jaded 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.520 by It's like, you put effort into it, and you 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.160 want these guys to come out and do things. And 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.400 I think looking back on them, man, I've had guys 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:30.560 come to me and be like, man, you know what 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.439 I missed the most is is just being around guys 0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.040 I trust. And that's a big part of leaving the 0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:39.320 game too, right, you know all the fun moments, all 0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.600 the winning, you know, even the losing, you know, the 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:45.880 crazy moments, getting a jack whatever. I loved all the craziness. 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:47.480 And I love the fights. 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:47.680 Man. 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.560 Man, I missed that the most. And it's hard to 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:54.280 do that in the real world, Like it just. 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.400 Doesn't work real well, you guys tried. That was it? 0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:00.240 The at the casino? Yeah? At the casino? Yeah, that 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:04.200 whole that was a big lawsuit. You know what I 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:04.920 love about that one? 0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.560 They put You know how we were always playing cards 0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:10.200 in the locker room. Yeah, we play Yuker and all 0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:13.200 this stuff. They took a picture and blurred out the 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.240 lockers in the background and put that as the headline picture, 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.600 like it was me at a casino, but it was me 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:20.560 in the locker room, Like I knew where the picture 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:21.000 came from. 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.840 They're so sneaky, sneaky, so sneaky. We'll be right back 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:31.440 after this quick break. Let's go back into time. This 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:33.760 is a segment where we go back around where the 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:38.640 game took place. December twenty sixth, twenty ten. We talked 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:41.320 a little bit about pop culture. Number one movie was 0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:45.439 Little Fuckers. Remember that? You watch a movie I did? Yeah? 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:50.600 Oh yeah, Little near action in a comedy. Number one 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:54.400 song was Fireworks by Katy perry Man. I remember this shit, 0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:56.240 it doesn't seem that long ago. Was that? 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.040 Did she do that one when she was on the 0:58:58.080 --> 0:58:59.200 elephant for the Super Bowl? 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:01.280 Oh? Was that like this? 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:02.720 It might have been. Let me double check on that. 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.840 I remember that whole like a lot of pyate technics 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:07.440 and a giant elephant. 0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:09.600 Remember that. I don't for the halftime show, right? 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:12.320 It was the shark plushy things. 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.400 Left Shark, Yeah, I remember, I don't. 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:16.080 When Shark was animated and whin Shark was like kind 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:16.480 of dead. 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.680 I don't remember that weird Around this time December nineteenth, 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:24.840 the Philadelphia Eagles beat the New York Jets in the 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.120 Miracle at the meadow Lands. You know how many times 0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.280 you watch that goddamn film where you're not supposed to 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.240 kick it to fucking DeShawn Jackson. Oh my god, how 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.880 many times you watch this? After this it's no look, 0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:39.400 Assho'll just pump the fucking ball out of bounds. 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:42.200 There's certain plays that he would bring up five years 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:42.920 after the fact. 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:47.320 Every year we went over the goddamn free kick, oh 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.840 every Friday, and it hadn't been used since nineteen eighty two, 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.480 the one where you fair catch a punt and you 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:56.520 get to line up and have a free kick at 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:57.200 the end of half. 0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.840 Yes, well, but there's a lot of things like that, though. 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:01.560 I'm sure you can dig up a lot of things 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:05.160 that were brought up over and over again, practiced even 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:10.080 ad nauseum, and then executed at some point, which kind 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:12.760 of crazy. No, I mean two point play, that two 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:13.240 point play. 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:16.800 We hadn't which which two point it was? No, it 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.200 was it was ful because it was k Falk's two 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:22.480 point play where Tom would go yes, that's right, and 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:22.800 it was. 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:24.800 It was just like an up the gut kind of 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:25.880 a misdirection. 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:28.840 They throw the fade light in the box, you run 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:32.120 the Kevin Falk. We use that for like ten years. Uh. 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:37.120 December fourteenth, hul Cogan marries his second wife, Jennifer McDaniel. 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:39.720 Shout out, Hulk, dude, Hogan still looks good? 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:39.919 Man? 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:40.840 Is he still looking good? 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:42.840 I haven't seen in a minute. Yeah, down Florida. 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:46.919 You haven't aged a bit. Thank you, you look good. 1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:50.919 It's a lot gosh, you look good. Better look gray, 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:52.440 I'm gray as fuck. 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.120 You get you're getting there. But that's it's distinguished though. 1:00:55.320 --> 1:01:02.640 I like whatever Tron legacy, the Fight, True Grit Love 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:05.880 and other drug drugs. I remember that was at the 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:08.680 Gentle Hall Jalan Hall about VIAGRAA yep, that was a 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.880 good one. Good one. We're all popping off in the 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:11.760 box office. 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:13.680 Shout out to Irish, Mickey Ward and the fighter. 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:16.640 Baby you're you ever hangout Mick I have man. Yeah. 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:18.400 He did a bunch of charity stuff. I did it 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:20.680 my first charity event. It was with him in the 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:24.240 drop drop Kick Murphy's Great, Great, the. 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:25.440 Most Boston event ever. 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:26.160 Right right hard. 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:31.280 You know, Brian Fox painted Mickey Ward for the opener 1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:34.240 for that movie. He did like the thing for the premiere. 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:36.840 I didn't, and my daughter got to paint on that. 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:39.000 Her breaststrokes were still on it. We went to a 1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:42.400 studio and my daughter was really into art at the time, 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:44.640 and b Fox like, yeah, bringer over. By the way, 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:45.520 he's one of the best. 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:45.920 Yeah. 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:47.440 I don't know if you have any of his stuff 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:49.200 in here, but he's the best in. 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:54.600 The sports world. Twenty ten Super Bowl champions were the Packers. 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:58.840 NFL MVP was Tom Brady. We heard the stat anytime 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:02.120 a team had an MVP, they never won the remember that. 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.000 And honestly, by the way, it kind of blew my mind. 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:05.680 I never even heard that before he brought that up. 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:08.800 Yeah, it was like fifteen twenty years drop you guys 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:10.000 beat that Packers team this year? 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:14.160 Yeah, twenty ten, it would have been at their place, right, No, 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:15.040 we on the. 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:20.480 Road, Yeah, no, Green Bay came to July thirty week fifteen. 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:21.520 We beat him. 1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:21.840 Yep. 1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:23.960 We were good this year. We were fourteen to two 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:25.240 this year, won't we Yep? 1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:26.960 Jesus heck of a team. 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:30.240 Giants won the World Series. Can you tell us about 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.960 the Tiger scandal? Do you have any stories about that? 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.800 I remember Bill giving the forty five minute presentation on 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:38.600 why Tiger Woods is Tiger Woods. I do remember that. 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:41.360 And then Randy as soon as it broke, went out 1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:45.880 to practice and was like, hey boo, hey boo, how 1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:49.960 about Tiger fucking watch down. Remember that. I do remember 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:53.360 that that. I do remember that, just trolling his whistle, 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:54.760 that fucking asshole. 1:02:55.040 --> 1:02:56.360 Oh my god's the best. 1:02:57.160 --> 1:03:00.160 And Randy never he was never with the offense. You know, 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:03.120 he's me with will Fork on the defensive side, stretching, 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:04.880 not really stretching, just talking. 1:03:05.360 --> 1:03:07.400 He was always the last guy in the meeting room too, 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.040 for the morning meeting. You remember that, Like I'm talking 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:12.240 like as Bill was walking in, the door was just 1:03:12.280 --> 1:03:15.280 closing behind Randy too, And I'm like, damn, man, because. 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:16.760 If you were half a second late, that was perro 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:17.240 de duct. 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:20.200 I'm talking if the door was shut and you. 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.360 Weren't in your seat and Bill walked. 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:25.640 In there, it's I mean, that was a bad feeling, terrible, 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:28.120 really bad feeling. And I remember one time I had 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:30.320 the Randy Moss mask. I put my sweats on, I 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.400 got I got his extra pair of sweats with his 1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:34.880 number which didn't fit real well, and I sat in 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:36.520 his seat. Remember how I always just sit with his 1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:39.160 big ass legs way back and backing this thing with 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:41.840 his hood up. And dude, when you have that stuff on, 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:45.160 you looked just like him, Like that mask was amazing. 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:47.440 And so when he walked in, I just stood up, 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:50.720 was like straight cast little homie, you know I do. 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:52.920 I remember Bill was just walking into and. 1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:55.880 He's looking at me like, you know, Randy, like damn, 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:57.920 I come on, you're an idiot. 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:02.120 Jack sent the stage for the Buffalo Bills. 1:04:02.280 --> 1:04:04.160 This was this was back when the Bills were the 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:06.840 Bills that that we know in love. The Little Brothers 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:09.200 just got the ship kicked out of him. Record four 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:12.400 and twelve, first year of the illustrious chan Gaily Era 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:16.040 drafted C. J. Spiller ninth overall. He was a rookie. 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.720 This year started the year oh and eighth eight. 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:19.480 Uh. 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.840 This was the year Marshawn Lynch got traded to Seattle. 1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:22.520 UH. 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:24.360 And this was around the time that remember there was 1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:25.880 talking the Bills moving to Toronto. 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:28.480 Yeah, in Buffalo move played a home game there. 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.880 Played a home game in Week nine against the Bears, 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:35.400 lost up in Toronto. This was the year of Fitzmagic. 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:39.200 Brian Brohm, Trent Edwards all made starts for the Bills 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:42.680 this year. The lone pro bowler was Kyle Williams, the 1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:45.640 defensive tackles. He was a beast. 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:48.600 We played for a long time time time. Man. 1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:51.240 This was a team with some other dudes of like 1:04:51.400 --> 1:04:55.360 Roscoe Parish, Lee Evans, le Otis mcelvin. Speaking of another 1:04:55.800 --> 1:05:00.600 classic Bills Stevie Johnson, Fred Jackson was a beast this year, Johnson, 1:05:00.760 --> 1:05:03.400 But yeah, not a not a great Bills team four 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.960 and twelve, yep, finished fourth in the. 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:09.120 Fcast Later, how'd you feel about the Bills back in 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:09.680 these days? 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:12.040 God, I love beating them up. It was you know 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:13.800 what it was? It was one of those things where 1:05:13.800 --> 1:05:18.200 on the road loved playing in Buffalo, loved it. I 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:20.840 love the atmosphere you roll in there. First of all, 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:23.080 they're the kind of fans that they're gonna try to 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:25.720 piss on your van on the bus as it rolls by, 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.080 but they're gonna high five you when it's a good game. 1:05:28.400 --> 1:05:30.520 You know what, I mean like they're a true football fan. 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:33.360 They love their bills, love them no matter what, hell 1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:35.200 or high water man, they're gonna be there. They're gonna 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:36.919 support them. They're burning trash canded. 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:37.120 You know. 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:39.600 It's it's not like when you're in Oakland and you 1:05:39.640 --> 1:05:43.760 see like the chaos like Mad Max meets you know, fandom. 1:05:44.000 --> 1:05:47.120 It's like, like that's a crazy scene. But those guys 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:49.160 do get it on, but they're doing crazy stuff. I 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:51.600 remember watching the dude like belly dive onto a table 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:53.640 full of beers. I'm like, that's redneck. 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:56.080 There we go, we go get them, buddy. I'd never 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:59.360 been flipped off by such a crazy age group, different 1:05:59.560 --> 1:06:02.360 from like six year olds to like ninety five year 1:06:02.400 --> 1:06:05.280 old women. Yeah, after you go in, you whoop their 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:08.600 ass and old orchard. It's the best. Man. I remember you, 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:11.880 didn't you steal a fucking used to steal. 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:14.040 The amazing memory you have the amazing memory. 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:15.760 You used to steal the stools. 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:18.360 Yeah, Like I said, I'm not stealing anything from you, 1:06:18.440 --> 1:06:22.560 but I have been looking and I did. And by 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:24.800 the way, that stool is in my house right now. 1:06:25.120 --> 1:06:26.880 My kids use it all the time to get on 1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:30.240 this like counters and that that stool was cool because 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:33.720 it was it was very buffalo like. It wasn't real ornate. 1:06:34.160 --> 1:06:36.360 It was nice and square. It was it was it 1:06:36.440 --> 1:06:39.959 has to be. I'm gonna say, quarters on white Oak 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:42.560 is where I'm going. Quarter Oak, yep. And it's it's real. 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:46.919 It's real beefy. So it wasn't ornate in any way, 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:50.200 but very solid, very firm, very heavy, has a big 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.720 round top to it, and in the center has a 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:56.640 recessed brass plate with the number seventy two. And I 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:59.000 remember I searched all through the locker room to find 1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:01.200 the right one and put it in my equipment bag. 1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:03.080 I remember you from the visiting locker room. 1:07:03.120 --> 1:07:05.160 Oh yeah, I try to steal something from every busy. 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:08.480 You know, my my most favorite stool is k C. 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:10.959 You still you stole stools. 1:07:10.640 --> 1:07:13.800 From everywhere, from almost every place we went to. But 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:16.720 but but by the way, you know this, not every 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:21.080 very few. I bet you none of them today. They yeah, 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.520 they did the building, so we were. It was the 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.520 last year of the old Arrowhead Stadium and they had 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:28.400 now this is probably courtssot white Oak too. But it 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.040 was stained and it was nice and it was turned 1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:33.280 on the lathe. All the legs were real nice and 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:37.840 it has the arrowhead with the KC logo and in No. 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:38.640 Seventy two. 1:07:38.720 --> 1:07:42.640 But it's that's awesome. Yeah, I remember, I remember you 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:44.720 were trying to put that thing in your bag or something. 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:47.400 I got it. It was it, bros. Remember was that 1:07:47.480 --> 1:07:49.880 the old equipment guys like we can't do. 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:51.240 This or something like guess you can? 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:52.520 Yeah? 1:07:52.640 --> 1:07:53.960 Is that the was that the move to shove it 1:07:54.000 --> 1:07:55.160 in the Duffel bag and get out of there? 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:55.360 Yeah? 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:57.000 Because they're huge, right, because they got it. You get 1:07:57.040 --> 1:07:58.360 all your pads and all your stuff. 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:01.440 Right, what's your favorite thing you stole from another stadium? 1:08:01.480 --> 1:08:05.240 Like, listen, is there statue of limitations? I mean, I'm 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:07.480 not going to jail on your podcast. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:12.800 Like that's double Jeopardy, Bro, it's gone. 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:15.120 That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, it can't be tried twice, 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:18.639 There's no way. Gosh, man, the best thing ever? Hey, 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:20.519 you know, so some of my favorite stuff that I 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:24.080 have hanging now. We just moved down to Chapatchet, Rhode Island, 1:08:25.520 --> 1:08:27.840 and in the move I found some stuff that I'd 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.679 ganged from the Super Bowls. So again I was always 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:32.400 the first guy off the field. Right, It was like 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:34.719 my goal to get to the bar as quickly as possible. 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:37.040 Barl Lewis baby, and. 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:41.720 I would rip down all these banners. I remember just 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:45.160 jumping up and just running tintingdingdingding thing, wadding it up. 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:49.200 Throwing it. And I have all these really. 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:52.479 Awesome banners from the Super Bowl eras, like the ones 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:53.400 that hang in the hotel. 1:08:53.479 --> 1:08:53.719 Yeah. 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:55.240 Yeah, well we get to the hotel, I couldn't stop 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.519 myself there either. They'd be like hanging off like a 1:08:57.560 --> 1:09:00.439 big atrium and I'd find my way up in there like. 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:03.599 Sink sink, sink, sink sink. Can we just get it? 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:07.280 What is your craziest prank that you did as a 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:08.240 New England Patriot? 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:12.800 Okay, so I would say probably the best one that 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:14.439 I did on team. I mean the best one I've 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:19.559 done period was having some guys pulled off their private jet. 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:21.679 That was that was one of the greatest of all time. 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:23.120 Man, what do you mean? I mean? 1:09:23.840 --> 1:09:25.040 And by the way, I did have a guy and 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:26.559 you can look this one up. I just did a 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:28.439 full video on it. I had a guy kill a 1:09:28.479 --> 1:09:33.600 turkey and he thought it was the world record albiono 1:09:33.720 --> 1:09:36.200 Osiola and ossiole is only found in Florida. It's a 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:39.479 version of a turkey, right, it's a subspecies. And he 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:41.800 went hunting with me, but what he actually killed was 1:09:41.800 --> 1:09:44.960 a broad breasted white turkey that was farm raised and 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:47.120 like some like literally like a double wide in some 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:49.560 guy's backyard, and I just put it out in the 1:09:49.600 --> 1:09:53.000 woods and he shot it, and he snuck up on it. 1:09:53.160 --> 1:09:54.559 I told him that if you squat down like a 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:58.000 Suma wrestler and carry a fake turkey tail fan, that 1:09:58.040 --> 1:09:59.839 you can walk right up on him, which you cannot 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:02.280 do that. But he did it, and he practiced it 1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:05.080 for a while and it's one of the funniest things ever. 1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:05.960 I have it on video. 1:10:06.280 --> 1:10:07.599 Like, by the way, I was right next to him 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:08.720 when he shot it, but he had no idea. It 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:10.679 was in a full gilly suit in a palmeadow bush 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:15.400 snake almost bit me. And when he sneaks up on it, 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:17.479 I swear to God, when the turkey saw him, it 1:10:17.520 --> 1:10:18.679 was like, oh, thank God. 1:10:18.479 --> 1:10:19.960 There's a human. I've been out here in a while, 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:20.599 Like what the hell? 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:23.559 Like he came from like literally a guy's backyard, and 1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:26.240 so he shoots and misses him and the bird. He 1:10:26.360 --> 1:10:29.720 was so fat he could barely walk forty four pounds, Like, dude, 1:10:29.760 --> 1:10:32.240 that's twice as big as any bird. And he started 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:34.599 walking my way. I'm like this how I die being 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:35.200 a dumbass. 1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:36.439 This is how I die? 1:10:36.560 --> 1:10:39.160 And thank god he didn't shoot me. But anyway, my 1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:41.599 brother calls him as the head of Florida Game and Fish. 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:44.000 I made up two hundred copies of a magazine where 1:10:44.040 --> 1:10:46.759 he's on the cover, and he thought, like, I'm dead serious, dude, 1:10:47.040 --> 1:10:48.519 I mean, I will put a lot of effort into this. 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:51.160 A year later, he gets up on stage at the 1:10:51.160 --> 1:10:53.720 shootout where we sold the Hunt to begin with, and 1:10:53.760 --> 1:10:55.160 I said, Jamie, you got to come up here and 1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:56.000 help me sell this thing. 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:56.240 Man. 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:57.840 I'm like, it's going to go for big money. You 1:10:57.920 --> 1:10:59.439 just shot that. And so he gets up and he's 1:10:59.439 --> 1:11:01.240 talking about how he killed the Moby Dick of Turkey. 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:03.280 He's the Tom Brady of Turkey Hunt. I got all 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:03.719 on video. 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:07.640 I had my guys there wearing Florida Game and Fish 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:10.519 collared shirts that I had made up because they were 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:12.679 there to get content for their website because they're getting 1:11:12.680 --> 1:11:14.759 ready to launch it. They brought two hundred advanced copies 1:11:14.760 --> 1:11:17.559 of the magazine. He's signing the magazines for people at 1:11:17.560 --> 1:11:19.840 the event, like, you can't make this stuff up right. 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:25.160 He had it mounted, a farm raised bird mounted, so 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:28.880 up on stage, he's talking about all this stuff on 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:31.240 the Tom Brady of Turkey Hunting, I killed the moby 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:33.519 Dick of Turkey and then I said, well, you know what, 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:34.880 we actually have this on film? 1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:35.760 Why we roll it? 1:11:35.920 --> 1:11:37.800 And in front of five hundred people A year later 1:11:38.200 --> 1:11:40.880 he finds out it shows me getting the bird, and 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:44.120 he's on stage like, are you serious? Like all this 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:48.640 realization it's one of the greatest videos. 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:49.240 You'll ever watch. Man. 1:11:49.920 --> 1:11:51.120 We laughed so hard. 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:55.240 Didn't you do a prank on one of our tight ends? 1:11:56.520 --> 1:12:00.559 And he got real bad? Almost Oh did I on 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:03.360 a tight end? Didn't you move her into his car 1:12:03.520 --> 1:12:05.000 or something? He got Superman? 1:12:05.160 --> 1:12:07.320 Oh oh he was fired up. Well no, you know why? 1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:09.519 Oh no, no, hold on, that that wasn't no, that 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:13.519 wasn't Hernandez. That was that was his his counterpart in Florida. 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:18.240 Uh lineback bike spikes. That's exactly who that was. Yeah, 1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:20.479 But by the way, Hernandaz and I did not get 1:12:20.479 --> 1:12:22.479 off on the right foot because I was the guy 1:12:22.520 --> 1:12:25.040 I had a hoghead in my in my truck. 1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:26.000 That was weird. 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:29.599 And uh uh you remember you remember Donald Duck. 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:31.320 Yeah, you put a duck in his locker. 1:12:31.400 --> 1:12:31.920 I did put duck. 1:12:31.960 --> 1:12:33.240 And by the way, for two days, he had no 1:12:33.280 --> 1:12:34.080 idea it was a live. 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:35.479 Duck, not a dead duck. I would never do that. 1:12:36.080 --> 1:12:37.680 A live duck, live duck. 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:39.639 And it was quacking and everything else, and he must 1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:41.400 have thought it was just like us messing around with him. 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:42.680 I'm like, what point is he? 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:42.920 Like? 1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:45.760 The thing needed water that goes terrible. Anyway, he took 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:47.639 it home. By the way, the duck is still alive. 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:49.840 I'm not just saying that, like Duck's fine. Don't don't 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:50.439 think ducks and. 1:12:50.360 --> 1:12:54.080 Trust is David Donald. His name was not Donald Duck. 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:54.640 But we did say that. 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:56.000 We used to get him all those little ducks and 1:12:56.040 --> 1:12:57.639 they have a whole bunch of them, like one looks 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:00.080 like a ballerina and you know, like a little one. Anyway, 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:02.360 I put it and then somebody was like, hey, man, 1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:04.160 you know he's the guy that got busted smoking weed 1:13:04.200 --> 1:13:04.760 at Florida State. 1:13:04.840 --> 1:13:07.360 I'm like, sweet or Florida. I'm like this is awesome. 1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:09.160 So I took his hogshead and I put it in there, 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:10.720 and I wrote up a piece of paper, painted it 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:12.559 red on one end, and I stuck it in the 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:14.240 hog's mouth, and I said, hey, welcome to the team. 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:16.360 It's time to go hog wild. And I thought that 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:19.240 was funny. I found out when he walked in he 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:21.439 was not impressed. And I was like, that's kind of 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:25.960 a dick. Got a dick, So anyway, neither here nor there, spikes. 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:29.880 I watched him pull up a Patriot place and get 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:33.720 out of his his his whatever the car was, and 1:13:33.760 --> 1:13:37.560 he had a handicap thing that he put in his windshield, 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:40.840 and I'm like, mother trucker, Like, by the way, that 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:41.840 is a total dick. 1:13:41.920 --> 1:13:43.960 MAE can't do that. You can't do that. Can't do that, 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:46.200 player lot. 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:48.800 And by the way, it's not like he blends in. 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:52.599 He he was wearing like a full like mink fur 1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:55.160 coat or something. I don't know, like he did the 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:57.960 kind of he was kind of a pimp kind of he. 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:00.440 Kind of brought to the craft way. 1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:04.439 Yes, like I don't know where he hired her, but 1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:07.680 that was some crazy stuff. So when I saw that, 1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:09.280 I'm like nah, that can't happen. And it was a 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:10.920 part of me being an old timer. I'm like, that's 1:14:10.920 --> 1:14:14.040 just not right. So I stole his car. I still 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:16.880 have that. I still have the handicap sign that he 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:18.080 put in. It's in my room. 1:14:18.360 --> 1:14:19.280 Where did you put the car? 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:24.080 I put it over by the bubble And he was 1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:27.160 so like he wanted the smartest one out there. He 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:28.960 was so dumb he could not figure out. He came 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:30.160 to me and was like, did you take my car? 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:32.200 I'm like nah, and he's like all right. And like 1:14:32.280 --> 1:14:35.000 three days later, I'm like, has the guy got his car? 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:38.560 They're like nah, huh. Like days and days. 1:14:38.280 --> 1:14:40.880 Go by, I'm like, oh, this guy's troubled. 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:45.640 Very troubled. Jaggie break down These New England Patriots. 1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:46.559 Oh man, this was a heck of a year for 1:14:46.600 --> 1:14:49.360 the Pats. Fourteen and two, best record in the league, 1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.160 won eleven of the last twelve games, coming off a 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:55.559 season when we went ten and six. Lost Dan P's 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:57.400 in the offseason, DC. 1:14:57.400 --> 1:15:00.479 And fucking P's and that blaze zero is right. Randy 1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:04.760 ranild them all day long about that. Yes, every walk 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:09.519 through in the started practice, Randy walk out Dean P's 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:12.960 andw fucking Blade zero lost me a super Bowl ring. 1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:17.560 Speaking of Randy, Randy was traded to Minnesota this October. 1:15:18.120 --> 1:15:21.280 Also in October, Dion Branch came back. This was the 1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:24.160 year Tom Brady won MVP. As we talked about earlier, Jules, 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:25.400 this was your second season. 1:15:26.479 --> 1:15:28.240 When they traded Randy, I thought I was gonna get 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:31.160 some more opportunity. I was like, yeah, it's my shot, 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:33.920 it's my shot. Two days later we bring a Branch. 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:42.519 Didn't sniffed offensive field yet, but dirty the best. 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:45.679 A lot of Pro bowlers on this team, to Tom West, 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:51.599 Matt Logan, Mankins, Big, Vince Mayo, mccordy, Brandon, Meriweather, Vrabel 1:15:51.720 --> 1:15:53.559 was on this team. I mean, this was a This 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:55.120 was a heck of a Patriots team. 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:58.360 Who was your biggest bash bro was it? But Manx 1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:02.640 Logan was a fucking the best man. I tell you what. 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:06.760 You remember his hands, Yeah, they're like five hens, they 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:09.679 are like five and his wrist articulates in some weird 1:16:09.880 --> 1:16:11.639 snake like I don't. 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:13.120 Know it's it's uh, that's right. 1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:16.200 He grab and you remember when he did the old uppercut. 1:16:17.160 --> 1:16:19.600 Remember when he got when he got kicked out. He 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:22.800 punched some dude in the nuts. It was awesome, so 1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:26.880 great anyway, And and Logan wasn't dirty ever, but that 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:29.000 dude played with an edge. And I can, I can 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:32.840 honestly say that we we had so much fun as 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:36.320 a unit, Like whether it was Logan or you know, 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:39.400 Sea Bass or Cope, and I mean all the guys 1:16:39.400 --> 1:16:41.880 we had. Steve I loved legend. 1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:45.280 You remember the Four Locos. Remember he when they banned 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.519 the Four Locos, he bought a crate of it and 1:16:48.640 --> 1:16:49.519 had it in his house. 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.080 I saw him drink six in one night. That you 1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:55.439 shouldn't be alive. No, you shouldn't like one is a 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.200 bad idea, two is kind of stupid. 1:16:58.800 --> 1:16:58.960 Like that. 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.360 He was indestructible, man. 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:03.000 No, Steve was a monster. He could burly lift his 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:05.000 arm and he was fucking playing. Remember that he'd have. 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:09.360 Those trouble man you know he he was the only 1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:11.320 guy that could get knocked down and get back up 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:14.799 and still be blocking this guy. Nothing he did technique 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:17.320 wise was what Scar wont. And finally Scar was just like, 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:20.559 you know what, Steve, You're winning, So I'm just you're good. 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:21.439 Just do what you do. 1:17:21.920 --> 1:17:23.680 I remember one time we had a party at Ross 1:17:23.720 --> 1:17:26.720 Hawk Seigin's and he got lost in the woods and 1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:29.519 he woke up and he had like seven hundred mosquito 1:17:29.520 --> 1:17:31.479 bites on him because he was like literally in the woods. 1:17:31.960 --> 1:17:34.960 And the next day, like that day he woke up, 1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:36.840 we had to go in for our physical, our off 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:39.920 season physical, and he shows up and we're all wondering, like, well, 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:41.800 we didn't know what happened to him. We kind of 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:43.320 thought maybe he made his way home, but he lived 1:17:43.360 --> 1:17:44.920 a long way from there and his car was still there, 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:46.920 so like, we know what, Well, he passed out of 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:49.320 the woods. And when he showed up, he's on the 1:17:49.360 --> 1:17:51.640 table and they're doing the e KG you know they 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:54.160 start with that. Yeah, and he's got leaves stuck to 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:58.519 him and random spots and welts all over his body. 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:02.080 Fucking Neil. Neil was awesome. I went to his house 1:18:02.120 --> 1:18:03.640 in San Diego when we went out there. 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:05.919 Remember we went out there, Yeah, oh yeah. 1:18:06.320 --> 1:18:08.599 And he did a lot for Bakersfield. He loved that 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.439 wrestling community. That guy was. I mean, he was a 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:14.280 pro wrestler. He beat brock lessener As in the World Championships. 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:15.080 I think he did. 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:20.320 I think he won the collegiate title heavyweight, the Greco Roman, 1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:22.400 and the freestyle all in the same year. And I 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:23.800 think he was the first guy to ever do that. 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:26.240 No, yeah, he was. He was a bad man, bad 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:32.120 man yep. Now what makes Dante's Scarnekio such a great coach? 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:35.360 First of all, it's a combination, like if you want 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:39.360 to talk about an angry, angry individual, just mix. I'm 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:41.920 dead serious, man, And you don't see this very often 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:46.520 when Italians and Mexicans mate, you get a Dante Scarneki 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:50.840 You see what I'm saying, Like, like there's something in there, man, 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:56.559 because like very driven, very like like fiery chip. Yeah, 1:18:56.560 --> 1:18:58.120 you know, like you know you like when you have that. 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:02.720 It's so it's kind of like the Allian intensity, right 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:05.280 like that like you know, kind of like rip your 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:08.320 heart out like mafia kind of thing with like a 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:11.800 Mexican like like crazy like a like a like a 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.680 like a little uh the yap and dog, you know, 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:18.240 like because he was he wasn't big, but big guy 1:19:18.280 --> 1:19:19.320 has definitely feared. 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:20.880 Him, right Oh. He scared people. 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:23.240 Hell yeah, like and he coached like some of the 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:25.760 biggest monsters out there, and we were all like, yep, 1:19:25.840 --> 1:19:29.960 we got your coach. We're in task Master a military background, 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:36.360 right eop. Coach forever goes goes all the way back 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:40.639 to like the you know, the beginning was at SMU 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:41.240 when they got the. 1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:45.000 Death penalty there, and then he went to EUOP. Right, yes, yes, 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:47.479 And was that like there's a bunch of dudes that 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:48.200 came from EUOP. 1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:51.840 He coached. By the way, he was in a made 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:54.640 for TV movie. I don't know if you know this 1:19:54.720 --> 1:19:56.720 or not, and there is evidence of it. Actually, I 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:58.640 had the video we played at one time in our 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:03.240 meeting room and it was the Pittsburgh and the Steeler Kid. Okay, 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:05.559 you can look this up, Pittsburgh and the Steeler Kid. 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.200 And it was like a Monday Night special back when 1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:11.519 like Monday Night specials were a big deal, and it 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:14.960 had mean Joe Green and all these other guys, and 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:19.000 Dante was a coach, played a good role, and I remember, 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:20.760 like I forget what his lines were, but I used 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:24.640 to say him to him like randomly. Of course, like 1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:27.760 nobody knew that this movie existed, and he knew it, 1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:30.920 but he knew, but uh no, he was you know what, man, 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:33.960 Nobody worked harder than him on the staff I mean 1:20:34.040 --> 1:20:36.280 a lot worked as hard, I think, but nobody worked 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:38.000 harder than him. He was the first one in the building, 1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:41.920 first inn, last out, three am. You get there, and 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:43.880 he go to bat for us too, man like like 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:46.680 we butted heads, like you know, we went at it, 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:51.439 but always had a healthy respect for him because if 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:53.599 there were things in that game plan, you know, whether 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:58.599 it was the coordinator's idea or Bill's idea, and Dante 1:20:58.680 --> 1:21:01.040 looked at it and said, yeah, that ain't gonna work. 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:03.920 He's not going to just hang us out and be like, look, 1:21:04.000 --> 1:21:05.200 this is what they want, so we gotta do it. 1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:06.120 He's gonna go there and. 1:21:06.000 --> 1:21:08.160 Be like, nah, you know what I'm saying. And I 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:09.080 think that's a big deal. 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:11.000 I don't know what it's like on other staffs, man, 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:12.600 I was on one staff my entire career. But I 1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:15.639 can tell you one thing. You know, when we went 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:18.080 into our openers, I mean, hell, if if I had 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:19.840 a problem, I'm sure you even said things at times 1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:21.479 right like like no, I don't I don't think we 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:23.840 should run that earlier, or I'm not feeling that one, 1:21:24.320 --> 1:21:26.439 And there was input like that. I don't think that's 1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:28.520 probably normal in every situation. 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:32.080 No what impress me with coach Scarr and I saw 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:34.240 it when we had a different line coach when he 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:36.840 took a year away, remember that he left for a 1:21:36.920 --> 1:21:42.000 year or something. Scar could break down the actual technique 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:43.960 and he wouldn't be nice how he would save the 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:44.760 line like you. 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:48.920 Fat fucked you drop your left leg and but like 1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:51.599 he would tell you what to do, oh yeah, which 1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:55.599 other guys like that's not unacceptable or you can't do this. 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:58.200 He would literally say, you know, you gotta do this 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:00.760 drop and that's all about. He would tell you what 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:01.280 you had to do. 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:04.280 Yeah, and he'd tell you where you stood. He'd tell 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:06.760 you how bad you sucked. I mean, listen to your ass. 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:07.000 Eys. 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:10.200 Did you ever see when I did the Dante Scarnaki 1:22:10.200 --> 1:22:13.640 a motherfucking instructional video how to motherfuck people? In the submission, 1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:18.360 no oh, explain it unbelievable. So rookies were doing a 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:21.360 terrible job with their rookie skits one year, and I'm like, 1:22:22.200 --> 1:22:24.280 we got to do something make him laugh. So I 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:27.000 brought my stuff because I lived in Foxborough, and you know, 1:22:27.040 --> 1:22:29.840 we stayed the residence in You're trapped in that hotel 1:22:29.880 --> 1:22:31.760 for a month during training camp. So I brought my 1:22:31.840 --> 1:22:34.559 film equipment in and we sat there in the residence 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:37.120 in and shot this thing with the rookies and I 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:41.320 directed it. And it was basically like if you watch 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.000 like one of those not an infomercial, but like where 1:22:44.000 --> 1:22:46.559 they're selling things on TV, you know, like, so it 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:48.360 was like, you want to learn. It started out with 1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:50.479 one of the rookies and I can't remember this kid's name. 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:51.160 He was a lineman. 1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:53.519 You want to learn how to motherfuck people? Are you 1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:55.920 tired of being taken advantage of as a leader? Do 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:57.840 you want to get your people just get in line? 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:00.680 Are you not being as productive because you know you 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:04.000 could be, Well, here's your chance. Dante Scarneki has padded 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:08.040 system designed the motherfuck Everybody into submission. And it was 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:11.519 amazing because I wrote down every one of his sayings 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:13.320 for years and years. I always had a notepad, like 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:15.280 if I was awake it was just to do something 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.720 stupid like that. And so I had every one of 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:20.519 his sayings and we had a scrolling list and it 1:23:20.600 --> 1:23:22.120 was playing this it was playing the song. 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:23.160 I thought, this was awesome. 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:27.439 I will be off other figure, put your tiny hand 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:28.040 in mind. 1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.679 You know that song yes, and it's playing in the background. 1:23:30.760 --> 1:23:32.160 I thought that was so awesome. 1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:34.360 It was like little things that I found funny, probably 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:37.040 if nobody else did, but it's like and then I 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:40.720 had Ryan O'Callaghan was the voiceover for You'll Learn the classics, 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.120 like if you don't think that shit sucks, you can 1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:44.200 go fuck yourself. 1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:47.920 And it just kept listening all these classics. 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:52.280 Oh oh, assiys. He loved to call people assiys, You're 1:23:52.320 --> 1:23:55.320 not worth hammered shit. Remember him saying that that's not 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:58.040 worth hammered shit. If you think that shit's the way 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:00.800 to go with, then you can go. I mean like it, like, 1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:02.800 just kept listening them all the way down. And then 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:05.479 what I thought was a stroke of genius. I had 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:08.040 Steve Neil and myself. We sat in front of you know, 1:24:08.160 --> 1:24:10.320 they had the curtains at the residence in and we 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:11.840 were on the first floor, so there was a light 1:24:11.880 --> 1:24:14.960 outside but it was dark, and so I shot and 1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:17.080 it was a silhouette, so it was like Tony the Tiger. 1:24:17.479 --> 1:24:20.360 You could just see like our silhouette. And we sat 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:21.840 there and made it look like we were talking, but 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:23.800 we made the rookies say or no, we said it, 1:24:23.800 --> 1:24:25.800 and we had the rookies be the silhouette, and I 1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:30.040 would be like Steve's like, I've been in Dante's Scarnekia's 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:33.360 motherfucking system for four years now, and I can honestly 1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:37.160 tell you it works. That guy can really fuck you, 1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:39.519 you know, like he's like giving a testimonial, and then 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:41.880 there's another guy giving a testimony, so we play that 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:45.160 for the rookie skits. I turn around to see Dante's expression, 1:24:45.160 --> 1:24:47.840 and he's just like stone cold, just like looking at 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:50.760 the screen, no emotion. I look over Bill Bill's life 1:24:50.760 --> 1:24:54.320 because you know how much Bill loved the rookie skits, 1:24:54.439 --> 1:24:54.920 loved him. 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.759 Oh my gosh, talking about him last night at the roast. Yeah, 1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:03.800 Ernie Adams story, we had him out here, Oh my god. 1:25:03.840 --> 1:25:04.439 Oh you know what. 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:07.120 I knew that. Somebody told me that you had him here, 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:10.160 and I have to go watch it because I'm sure 1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:11.840 exactly say way love Ernie. 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.800 I love Ernie. Oh my gosh. By the way, genius 1:25:14.840 --> 1:25:17.360 in the markets back in the day. Oh yeah, I 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.240 asked him like what I used to ask him all 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:21.120 the time. Everyone heard the rumors that he made Bill 1:25:21.160 --> 1:25:22.839 a bunch of money in the market or something. 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:25.040 Yeah, he was on a trading floor. Man, that guy 1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:27.640 was in it. You know, commodity is the whole nine. 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:27.720 Yeah. 1:25:29.320 --> 1:25:30.800 Yeah, we went to dinner with We went to dinner 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:32.040 and picked his brain about afterwards. 1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:34.720 What was the tip? He? I remember one investing what 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:35.200 you know? 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:37.400 Yes, by the way, that's some of the best advice 1:25:37.439 --> 1:25:39.760 in the that that truly is the key right there. 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:41.920 And then he said, if you wouldn't buy the whole company, 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:42.960 don't buy a single share. 1:25:43.360 --> 1:25:46.200 Wow, which that was pretty good. Nie, good words. 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.599 Hey, I'm gonna tell you my favorite Ernie Adams moment 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:50.280 of all time. 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:52.519 And this is all I think. I remember where this 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:55.479 is going. Go ahead at practice? The plane. 1:25:55.640 --> 1:25:57.800 Oh my god, man, did you guys talk about that? 1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:00.559 No? Oh, how did you not talk about because I 1:26:00.600 --> 1:26:02.120 wasn't there. Oh my god. 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:06.040 So this is so amazing. So our practice fields are 1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:09.200 right outside the stadium and we have this upper field 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:14.120 and we're at practice and there is a plane coming 1:26:14.160 --> 1:26:15.760 over and I'm sure it's going to one of the 1:26:15.760 --> 1:26:19.000 air bases, right, but it's like a C one And 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:22.639 I'm not kidding you. We can see it coming. Actually, 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:25.960 we can feel it coming. And I remember looking and 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.760 I'm like oh, and I can see the pilot's expression 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:31.800 on his face like I'm not just saying that, man, 1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:33.400 Like I can still see it to this day. And 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:37.599 I remember thinking, that's going to hit right where I'm 1:26:37.640 --> 1:26:39.000 standing because. 1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:41.000 The angle it was coming at it looked like it was. 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:44.600 It definitely blown up the stadium for sure, man. And 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.120 I'm looking at this. And by the way, everybody stops, 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:49.759 like nobody stops during practice. It wasn't like their fans 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:51.479 were there. It wasn't during training camp. This like during 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:54.599 the season. And these two nut sacks, and they probably 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:57.120 got demoted big time, dude, because I know they got 1:26:57.120 --> 1:26:58.840 in trouble for doing this shit. They were like buzzing 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:03.040 a tower, you know, yeah, permission, go ahead, Maverick. And 1:27:03.200 --> 1:27:06.439 here they come. And as I'm watching this, my dumb 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:08.599 ass should have been doing what Ernie was doing, because 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:11.200 the only smart guy on that entire field was Ernie. 1:27:11.280 --> 1:27:13.760 And he's running, by the way, I never saw Ernie 1:27:13.840 --> 1:27:17.599 run like this. He's running mock five away from the danger. 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:20.040 And I remember thinking at the time, like he's the 1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:21.599 only smart one. I'm definitely dying. 1:27:21.840 --> 1:27:22.639 I'm definitely dying. 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:26.519 And that shit is still in my head I can 1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:30.160 still see him running. I mean the clipboard went flying. 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:33.960 I'm not kidding you, dude, He's the only single person 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:37.200 that ran away from danger. And that dude buzzes the 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:39.800 tower and then when he cleared the stadium, we were 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:42.320 all like, oh. And then I thought he was gonna 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:45.280 hit that big water tank. Yeah, and dude, he banked 1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:47.519 right along. And that water tank is what, I don't know, 1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:50.360 forty feet off the ground. It's not like it's one 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:55.519 thousand feet. He's on the surface and didn't die. But anyway, 1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:58.040 Ernie Adams was the only one that ran away from it. 1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:05.240 Fuck Erny genius. I love that guy. Jesus we had 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:08.000 him so when we played I don't know if we 1:28:08.040 --> 1:28:11.600 talked about on the on the episode, We're playing the 1:28:11.640 --> 1:28:16.040 Super Bowl and we were at I think Houston, and 1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:20.280 there was like a rim around the football field, like 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:22.200 you know that the old school fields. I used to 1:28:22.200 --> 1:28:26.000 have that cement rim in the track. Yep. Well, Ernie 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:29.519 somehow fell down in the middle of practice, hits his head. 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:35.479 He's bleeding profusely out of his head. Joker goes get 1:28:35.600 --> 1:28:38.240 seven eight stitches, comes back out for practice. 1:28:39.400 --> 1:28:40.960 He had the full rap on his he didn't he. 1:28:41.200 --> 1:28:44.439 Yes, did you football player today to do that? 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:46.639 No, these guys are soft today? 1:28:46.640 --> 1:28:46.840 Man? 1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:50.240 Are they the players today? And by the way, it's 1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:53.000 not I don't really put that in as as their fault, 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:55.519 and not all of them. There's some football playing Jesse's 1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:57.439 out there. Like I think I told you this man 1:28:57.640 --> 1:28:59.760 like David Andrews is a throwback. Yeah, Like if I 1:28:59.800 --> 1:29:02.160 had take a guy that's in New England right now 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:04.200 that you know, I love the way he plays, like 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:06.960 a style like his approach to the game, David would 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:09.800 be it. I think he's a great you know, well 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:11.800 he's he's a great voice in that locker room for 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.000 a lot of reasons. But man, I'll tell you what, Man, 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:16.559 the violent side of the game what I love the most, 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.120 and not just to be violent. Football is a violent sport. 1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:21.599 You should want to try to knock the guy out 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:22.720 across the line from you. 1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:24.120 Legally, legally. 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:27.320 But in today's world, man, how in the world do 1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:29.960 you prepare yourself? You know, the league has a real problem, 1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:34.240 a legit problem on their hands, and it's being masked 1:29:34.360 --> 1:29:38.439 by fan duel and all these gambling sites right because 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:42.160 the revenue is still coming in. But the passion the 1:29:42.280 --> 1:29:47.040 average fan and and and the rabid fan has left 1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:49.679 the game and droves. And that's not a good thing 1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:53.120 for football, now, you know what I'm saying, Like, look 1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:54.960 look at it in terms of jersey sales and all 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:57.479 that other stuff, Like there's only so much that Taylor's 1:29:57.520 --> 1:30:00.360 the Swifties can do. Okay, Like he keep going down 1:30:00.360 --> 1:30:02.000 that road. See how that pans out, you know what 1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:04.080 I mean? Like we need football playing jessin. We need 1:30:04.080 --> 1:30:06.519 to bring the violence back. We need to allow these 1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:08.320 guys to blow people up over the middle. 1:30:08.760 --> 1:30:12.719 I mean can though we as players suit the owners. 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:16.439 So the owners are going to sit there and say 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:17.519 we're changing the rules. 1:30:17.640 --> 1:30:19.880 Yeah, but not really though, I mean not really though. 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:21.640 I mean the lawsuits you're talking about more on the 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:25.439 concussive side, Yeah, those were in play long before, and 1:30:25.800 --> 1:30:27.960 those are just a function of doing business. Like you 1:30:28.000 --> 1:30:31.439 think about all these industries and how they mitigate risk. Right, 1:30:31.520 --> 1:30:34.479 it's all insurance. It's all a game, right, Like I 1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:36.200 can go out and have an event where we shoot 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:38.120 a lot of guns and we do and there's a 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:43.200 higher probability, higher probability of chaos there versus on a field, Right, 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:46.200 cheap insurance, so you can ensure against everything. It's not 1:30:46.320 --> 1:30:48.400 that there's always been people trying to suit. 1:30:48.439 --> 1:30:48.920 The league. 1:30:49.080 --> 1:30:51.439 League knows how to get around that. They changed the 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:55.760 game fundamentally after twenty eleven CBA, the last one I 1:30:55.800 --> 1:30:58.559 was a part of that changed the game. And as 1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:02.040 you know, they can't practice, they don't hit, and they 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:04.400 can't get their bodies ready. And where you see it 1:31:04.560 --> 1:31:06.639 most is in the line play because that's the guys 1:31:06.640 --> 1:31:08.280 that need it the most. You guys can go run 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:11.960 routes and do technical stuff right and get yourselves right 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:14.280 for the most part, although they still need more work 1:31:14.680 --> 1:31:16.920 because there's a lot of sloppiness. Man, there's a lot 1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:20.559 of line of scrimmage bullshit. It's a it's a there's 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:23.519 a much better product five ten years ago on the 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:25.160 field from an execution standpoint. 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:27.599 I mean, Tommy was saying that he got in trouble 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:28.200 for saying. 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.400 That, and he was right, and he was saying that 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:33.640 almost a decade ago. You know what I'm saying. And 1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.960 I remember having that conversation with him. He's like, it's 1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:38.120 so easy right now, so and I'm not saying it 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:39.920 was easy in terms of we're gonna win every game 1:31:40.000 --> 1:31:42.160 kind of mentality. But in terms of what it takes, 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:46.120 all I'm saying is is that they did all of it, 1:31:46.280 --> 1:31:49.120 all the rule changes, everything the league did to get 1:31:49.160 --> 1:31:51.639 their seventeenth game and they're about to get their eighteenth. 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.719 It wasn't it because they want to have that super 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:55.920 bood President's Day. 1:31:56.000 --> 1:31:59.040 It wasn't about players safety, health and wellness. I'm not 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.080 saying they want to see guys hurt. I'm just telling 1:32:01.080 --> 1:32:03.880 you we were floated this idea that all the changes 1:32:03.920 --> 1:32:06.799 were centered around making the game safer, making the game safer, 1:32:06.880 --> 1:32:09.599 and the game is not safer if you look at 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:11.840 it from a rate of injury, the rate of injuries 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:14.200 that actually gone up, soft tissue, all that stuff. They 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:16.200 can tell you anything they want, I'm telling you the 1:32:16.280 --> 1:32:19.080 numbers would prove that. And you don't even have to 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:21.920 have the inside scoop on it. You can just watch it. 1:32:22.280 --> 1:32:24.320 Look at how many of the of the starters and 1:32:24.320 --> 1:32:26.439 the backups. And by the way, if you're a backup today, 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:30.120 you haven't taken a real live rep maybe since training camp. 1:32:30.360 --> 1:32:32.599 You know what I'm saying, like, because there's not enough time. 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:34.160 So it's a problem. 1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:35.880 Man, practices, or. 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:38.599 They can't hit two days in a row. We hit 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:41.960 twice in one day, two different sessions. So what I'm 1:32:42.000 --> 1:32:44.400 saying is all that stuff was done because they wanted 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:47.519 to get their seventeenth and eighteenth game. And yes, there's 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:51.000 more revenue out there. It's Almo in front of the guys. Hey, yeah, 1:32:51.000 --> 1:32:52.080 we're not gonna be hitting as much. 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:53.240 Yeah we won't hit as much. 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:54.559 Yeah we're gonna take away a preseason. 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:57.280 Get them in the back end with that eighteenth game. 1:32:57.479 --> 1:32:59.040 And by the way, I could care less. You want 1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:02.200 to get seventeen eighteen negotiated, get it done like anybody else. 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:02.559 And they did. 1:33:02.640 --> 1:33:05.000 They finally got it done. Pay the guys, that's fine, 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:07.360 but don't do what you're doing because you keep going 1:33:07.400 --> 1:33:09.639 down this road. These guys are not ready to play 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:13.240 a season. They're not ready to survive a season in entirety, 1:33:13.439 --> 1:33:16.240 and they sure as hell aren't executing at a level 1:33:16.439 --> 1:33:17.360 that is acceptable. 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:21.439 No. I mean, training camp by the time I retired 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:22.080 was a joke. 1:33:22.960 --> 1:33:25.479 It was the worst days of my life, oh and 1:33:25.560 --> 1:33:26.479 yours in the beginning. 1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:28.840 First time, I was never I never ran like that 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:30.800 in my life. I was a quarterback bro I was 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:34.280 like slinging JoJo's in special teams periods at Kent State, 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:37.599 you know what I mean, Like I had to run 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:40.040 every period I was dead. We used to have run 1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:43.320 game in the morning, past game in the afternoon, double days, 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:49.639 remember that, oh Man hot, vivid sticky. I mean by 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:52.880 the time I left, Bro, you didn't have you didn't 1:33:52.880 --> 1:33:54.280 have three days in a row, or it was like 1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:56.840 three days on and then you get one day off mandatory. 1:33:57.640 --> 1:33:58.839 It was fucking crazy. 1:33:59.040 --> 1:34:01.160 Remember when we used to get the iron Man Award. 1:34:01.479 --> 1:34:03.800 If you made it all through training camp because you 1:34:03.840 --> 1:34:06.200 were a football play you were a bad dude. If 1:34:06.240 --> 1:34:08.200 you made it all the way through without you know, 1:34:08.240 --> 1:34:11.280 getting dinged up to where you couldn't practice. And by 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:13.519 the way, on that note, going back to our boy, 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:19.439 Briggsy had a security We were filming a thing for 1:34:19.520 --> 1:34:22.120 the Oil Consortium for Craft. It was like like we 1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:25.080 got paid to go do something right. And so because 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:27.040 it was they were like a big sponsor of the stadium, 1:34:27.439 --> 1:34:29.160 they were coming in the back enter and try by 1:34:29.439 --> 1:34:31.760 Briggs's house and it was Russ Hoaks, Syne and I 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:33.760 And it was supposed to be like Russ coming out 1:34:33.760 --> 1:34:36.160 of his house and the oil delivery truck coming up, 1:34:36.400 --> 1:34:38.519 and I was doing something. I was like dog cussing 1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:41.120 the cheerleaders for some reason. Actually that wasn't part of it. 1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:42.600 I just took that upon myself. 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:43.200 And it was funny. 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:45.400 They gave him the video. But anyway, when we're doing it, 1:34:45.479 --> 1:34:46.920 I told Russ, I said, hey, you know we're gonna 1:34:46.920 --> 1:34:48.519 be doing this at Briggs's house. I said, I'm going 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:51.439 to steal something from Briggs's house. Right in front of him. 1:34:51.600 --> 1:34:53.400 He's like, no, you're not. I'm like, yes, I will. 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:57.160 And dude, so he, being British, had a gargoyle, a 1:34:57.200 --> 1:34:59.800 concrete gargoyle, and it was sitting on the railing of 1:34:59.840 --> 1:35:04.160 his porch and Briggs is here, Russ is right here 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:06.840 wearing a robe, looking like an idiot, and I'm sitting 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:08.000 here and it was kind of raining out, and I 1:35:08.080 --> 1:35:09.720 have my rain jacket. I put my jacket over the 1:35:09.760 --> 1:35:12.360 gargoyle and we're talking, and right in front of him, 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:14.120 I kind of gripped my jackets. It looked like I 1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:15.840 was just grabbed my jacket and I cup and that 1:35:15.880 --> 1:35:18.160 thing was heavy about damn dropped it and I just 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:19.640 took it right on my side and I said, oh, 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:20.880 I got to go back to my truck and I 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:22.839 put that gargole in my truck. When we got done, 1:35:23.200 --> 1:35:24.639 Russell was like, I thought you were going to steal 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:25.080 something from him. 1:35:25.120 --> 1:35:25.800 I'm like I did. 1:35:26.320 --> 1:35:28.200 He's like, no, you didn't. And I opened my truck 1:35:28.200 --> 1:35:30.559 door and there's a gargol and he is dying right 1:35:31.040 --> 1:35:34.120 Fast forward and I'm tying this back in hanging with me. 1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:36.920 Fast forward to the end of training camp, and I 1:35:36.960 --> 1:35:39.200 got my little Iron Man. We got a T shirt, right, 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:41.200 and we do we do anything for a T shirt. 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:43.920 So I got my T shirt and Briggs is walking 1:35:43.920 --> 1:35:46.280 past me, but I had put the gargoyle in my 1:35:46.360 --> 1:35:48.439 locker up where my shoulder paths were and it was 1:35:48.479 --> 1:35:50.560 like sitting there. And he walks past me and he 1:35:50.680 --> 1:35:53.320 stops and he looks. He backs up and he goes, 1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:57.000 it's up my phone gogole. I swear to God, you 1:35:57.080 --> 1:35:59.000 cannot write this script. And I go what And I 1:35:59.000 --> 1:36:00.080 look at it. I look at him. I'm like, what 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:02.280 are you talking about. He goes, I'm a phone goggle. 1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:03.920 I'm like, no, it's all gargle. I was like, Bill 1:36:03.920 --> 1:36:05.959 gave me that. It's like for being like the Iron 1:36:06.000 --> 1:36:08.000 iron Man, iron deer on a law, you know, like 1:36:08.000 --> 1:36:09.479 like it was a it was a symbol of me 1:36:09.520 --> 1:36:11.840 watching over the team. He's like, oh god, we'll just 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:12.840 look it. And he walks away. 1:36:13.200 --> 1:36:14.800 Now I'm dying inside. 1:36:15.200 --> 1:36:17.719 And Logan saw the whole thing and he's dying. Right 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:22.080 next day, I walk in, No Gargoyle, Okay, So I'm like, 1:36:22.080 --> 1:36:23.880 all right, he got it. Never talked to him about it, 1:36:24.000 --> 1:36:26.400 never had a real conversation. Right, It's funny how that works. Right, 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:28.000 We're all busy, like trying to get better and be 1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:31.800 really good. So years go by and we go back 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:34.200 for a reunion for like the three Super Bowl you know, 1:36:34.400 --> 1:36:35.800 guys that were there for all three of them, right 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:38.240 at the beginning ones. And we're there and I brought 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:41.200 my RV and we're having a great time. And then 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:44.280 Steve Neil we go up because Kratz has a little 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:46.240 reception in that little room up there with all of 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:48.800 his people, and Steve goes, hey, man, let's let's go 1:36:48.840 --> 1:36:50.800 down to Briggs's office. We'll mess around. I'm like, oh yeah, 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:52.440 rubber nuts over his keyboard. 1:36:52.080 --> 1:36:52.639 To be awesome. 1:36:52.760 --> 1:36:54.840 I'm just kidding. I wasn't gonna do that, probably would have. 1:36:55.120 --> 1:36:57.880 And we walk in and and I sit down in 1:36:57.880 --> 1:36:59.679 his office. I got my feet up on his desk, 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:03.040 and Steve's taking a picture and I look. 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:06.800 Up and the gargoyle is on the shelf. I stole 1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:11.040 it again. It's at my house. I have it right now. 1:37:11.280 --> 1:37:13.320 It's amazing double jeopardy. 1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:16.200 Oh, man, fucking gargoyle. 1:37:16.320 --> 1:37:18.960 I got it. It's the greatest man. It's in my office. 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:25.200 Old Briggs. He left, Yeah, many doing big security, like 1:37:25.360 --> 1:37:26.559 world security stuff. 1:37:27.160 --> 1:37:29.120 I liked him. I liked him at the end. First 1:37:29.120 --> 1:37:32.760 he hated me, Jack, want you ahead take us into 1:37:32.800 --> 1:37:33.080 the game. 1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:35.120 Yeah, let's run through the lead up real quick, and 1:37:35.120 --> 1:37:37.000 then we'll get through this butt kicking up in Buffalo. 1:37:37.960 --> 1:37:40.280 So the Bills entered this thing four and ten. Pats 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:42.560 come in twelve and two. They're firing on all cylinders. 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:44.720 We had won that game thirty eight to thirty in 1:37:44.760 --> 1:37:48.040 the Week three matchup. This game would clinch an AFC 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:51.799 East title for the Pats on a six game win streak, 1:37:52.120 --> 1:37:53.720 wins by twenty one or more in three of the 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:58.040 last four weeks, turnover free for seven weeks leading up 1:37:58.040 --> 1:38:00.719 to this game, and the defense had forced seven turnovers 1:38:00.720 --> 1:38:04.959 in that span so pretty darn good plus minus differential there. 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:07.960 Hair like really good hair. 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:09.400 This was long hair Brady season. 1:38:09.600 --> 1:38:09.800 Yeah. 1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:12.400 Yeah, that was like when he first was getting the plugs, 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:15.160 like the you know what I'm saying, like that whatever 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:17.400 that miracle grow stuff there sprinkling him. 1:38:17.439 --> 1:38:19.960 He always said he had what was that ship that 1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:26.759 Alex Skucia or something, I don't know, Ksha Berry or something. 1:38:28.520 --> 1:38:31.639 And then the game itself twenty two degrees sixteen mile 1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:34.880 an hour wins. This is Buffalo December weather. The games 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:36.160 the day after Christmas. 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:36.559 Uh. 1:38:36.680 --> 1:38:38.519 The Bills got on the board first with a Ryan 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:42.240 Lindell field goal, then wood Woody punched one in a 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:44.800 twenty nine yard run to put the Pats up seven 1:38:44.800 --> 1:38:47.559 to three, and they never looked back, scoring twenty one 1:38:47.680 --> 1:38:52.000 unanswered a Gronk TD, another Shane Graham field goal, an 1:38:52.000 --> 1:38:55.000 Algae Crumpler TD. The tight ends were all over the 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:58.479 place today. Gronk had another touchdown the second half, and 1:38:58.560 --> 1:39:02.560 the defense forcing seven overs four for almost three interceptions. 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:03.120 Uh. 1:39:03.280 --> 1:39:06.679 The offensive line would let up just one sack. Shane 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:08.960 Graham tacked on another field goal at the end to 1:39:09.040 --> 1:39:12.080 make this thing thirty four to three, just a beat 1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:14.599 down in Buffalo, and then after this game to wrap 1:39:14.680 --> 1:39:20.280 the game up, Tom Brady set the record for most 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:23.639 consecutive pass attemption with that an interception at three hundred 1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:27.720 and nineteen, passing Bernie Kozar Ernie who did it in 1:39:27.840 --> 1:39:30.759 nineteen ninety ninety ninety one season? 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:33.559 Love it crazy? Bill cut Bernie Cozar? 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:35.240 Did he really? I forgot about that? 1:39:35.400 --> 1:39:39.320 Oh yeah, A Bernie came in with a blow dryer 1:39:40.040 --> 1:39:42.920 and like an old man hairbrush. I will never forget that. 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:46.360 What do you mean, like when when Bernie came, he 1:39:46.520 --> 1:39:48.640 was like he came in for no, No, it was 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:51.720 it Bernie. No, No, who's the guy we signed? It 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:56.840 wasn't Bernie Kozar. I'm talking about Ninnie Tes severity, Vinnie Tes. 1:39:57.320 --> 1:39:59.360 Vinnie T was with us, and remember do you remember 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:02.160 when he had when he couldn't read? Were you there 1:40:02.200 --> 1:40:03.240 for that one? Okay? 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:03.600 Hold on? 1:40:03.760 --> 1:40:06.720 Yeah, So I mean I'm thinking Vinnie T so and 1:40:06.920 --> 1:40:08.800 then I almost went to Flutie, but it was Vinne T. 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:12.920 Flashbacks here been hit a lot, Bill, and you're gonna 1:40:12.920 --> 1:40:15.040 love this, dude. So you know, the quarterbacks sat in 1:40:15.040 --> 1:40:18.439 the first row right and Vinnie T's right in front 1:40:18.439 --> 1:40:21.760 of the podium and Bill's talking about again, probably the 1:40:21.800 --> 1:40:24.080 Bengals or something. You know how we'd always say, I mean, look, 1:40:24.120 --> 1:40:26.360 you can't make this shit up, right, because it sounded 1:40:26.439 --> 1:40:28.599 kind of stupid some of them did. So he would 1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:31.760 hand like the wire like whatever came off, you know, 1:40:31.840 --> 1:40:33.880 he would hand it and he handed it to Vinnie T. 1:40:34.000 --> 1:40:35.639 And he's like, lock you read it. I mean, look, 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:37.679 you can't. You can't make this shit up. And he's 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:39.479 looking at it and he's like, all right, go ahead 1:40:39.479 --> 1:40:41.680 and read it, and like he's still not reading it, 1:40:41.720 --> 1:40:43.519 and he keeps trying to get his arm because he 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:45.840 didn't have his glasses on and he couldn't read it. 1:40:45.880 --> 1:40:48.200 And Bill's like, give me that thing and ripped it 1:40:48.200 --> 1:40:50.559 out of his hands. If we were dying, dude. 1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:55.040 But Vinnie T. Came in and I'll never forget. I'm like, 1:40:55.360 --> 1:40:58.599 I'm listening to this sound. Nobody has a hair dryer 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:01.680 in the locker room, Like that's like, what's your grandfather? 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:03.160 You like a hair dryer? 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:05.200 And he had like the old school brush and he's 1:41:05.240 --> 1:41:08.880 in there just clopping it up glow dryer, like look 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:10.519 at this guy, you sell again. 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:14.479 I remember his story. I remember once we were leaving 1:41:14.479 --> 1:41:17.479 the shower, and it was just reminding I don't know why, 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:21.040 and you go, could you imagine if you used another 1:41:21.080 --> 1:41:24.400 person's towel right away? Like you explained to me, like. 1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:27.080 Yeah, the last thing I dry off and the first 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:27.880 thing you dry off? 1:41:28.120 --> 1:41:30.080 Think about that. Let that that's what I remember you 1:41:30.160 --> 1:41:34.920 explaining this to me. Yeah, it's amazing your memory. I 1:41:34.960 --> 1:41:38.160 was just so like, what is light talking about? Yeah? 1:41:38.200 --> 1:41:40.080 And then you got it and I got it. And 1:41:40.120 --> 1:41:43.439 you imagine if you did that and some people's last 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:45.479 thing they dried off, like if you caught like a 1:41:45.520 --> 1:41:49.439 little uh's up the peak guy that's. 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:50.000 At Lasia hit. 1:41:50.600 --> 1:41:55.360 Oh my god, lady, how do we celebrate this division 1:41:56.360 --> 1:41:58.040 locking down game? 1:41:58.920 --> 1:42:00.000 So this was a rare one. 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:04.280 And the reason I love this game is because and 1:42:04.400 --> 1:42:06.559 I thought, I honestly thought it was the windy one, 1:42:06.600 --> 1:42:10.160 but you refresh my memory so big time snow we 1:42:10.240 --> 1:42:12.680 always leave. People don't realize that, right, it could get 1:42:12.680 --> 1:42:15.599 a Monday night game. It's like, I don't know what 1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:17.519 one o'clock in the morning by the time the buses 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:19.320 finally rolled out, and what, by the way, was that 1:42:19.400 --> 1:42:23.320 not the worst waiting on all the equipment, all the. 1:42:22.840 --> 1:42:26.439 B So the worst was the hour drive back from 1:42:26.520 --> 1:42:28.120 the Providence Airport that. 1:42:28.080 --> 1:42:31.320 We could have gotten in our own vehicles, albeit a 1:42:31.400 --> 1:42:36.000 handle deep in crown. I mean, who knows, but things happened, 1:42:36.040 --> 1:42:39.000 but probably the best idea we didn't. But yeah, that 1:42:39.080 --> 1:42:42.719 was the worst. Man, the word, the travel, the downtime. God, 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:44.360 it was terrible. And then you know you got to 1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:46.439 wake up in like hours. 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:48.840 And go get in the clock and run. 1:42:50.600 --> 1:42:53.040 We do this again. We're never gonna win out fucking game. 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:56.760 We won thirty ford to nothing, Bill, I mean, it's 1:42:56.800 --> 1:42:57.400 not a big deal. 1:42:59.080 --> 1:42:59.320 Yeah. 1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:03.479 So so we got stuck in Buffalo, ended up going 1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:07.800 on some buses that took us to Rochester. 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:11.839 Because there was a hockey tournament in Buffalo. In Buffalo, 1:43:11.880 --> 1:43:13.280 so there was no hotels. 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:16.080 That was the World Juniors. If it was around Christmas, 1:43:16.080 --> 1:43:16.840 that's probably what it was. 1:43:16.920 --> 1:43:18.000 Yep, yep, okay. 1:43:18.320 --> 1:43:22.280 So we on the way to Rochester. I would always 1:43:22.280 --> 1:43:25.400 do this hunt and they had this this place called 1:43:25.479 --> 1:43:29.000 Dinosaur Barbecue, big shot out Dinosaur Barbecue places, epic. They 1:43:29.040 --> 1:43:32.479 always had live entertainment, great barbecue, and we do the 1:43:32.479 --> 1:43:34.040 one of Syracuse, but I knew they had a location 1:43:34.120 --> 1:43:38.160 of Rochester. And so we call ahead, I get everything 1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:42.320 set up, and we basically hit that hotel and immediately 1:43:42.360 --> 1:43:43.439 the whole team went. 1:43:43.400 --> 1:43:45.160 Whole team coaches, coach. 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:48.120 Yeah, it was hammered and never do that, like we 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:52.040 never get an opportunity as a group to go do something. 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:54.479 And that was, man, that was a special day. 1:43:54.520 --> 1:43:56.000 Man. That was so fun. 1:43:56.360 --> 1:43:59.599 It was so great and just to see coaches being 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:02.320 human and doing like so and by the way, for them, 1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:05.880 I think it was a huge relief, you know, just to. 1:44:06.600 --> 1:44:09.680 Definitely have that time, man, because the coach, like what, 1:44:09.760 --> 1:44:12.760 People don't realize that the coach's got motherfuck just as 1:44:12.800 --> 1:44:15.280 much as we did, if not. 1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:17.880 Worse, probably worse, man, And longer and. 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:22.920 Longer, the staff would sit and watch every single play 1:44:23.120 --> 1:44:25.439 of practice as. 1:44:25.240 --> 1:44:27.720 A unit, and then watch it again with us. 1:44:27.800 --> 1:44:29.679 Yeah, and then watch again with us, and then watch 1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:30.479 it again at night. 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:34.120 And watch again at night. No doubt grueling, man, I'll 1:44:34.120 --> 1:44:36.439 tell you, you know. And in a moment, I don't think 1:44:36.479 --> 1:44:39.000 I respected it very much in my early years, but 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:41.599 by the time you've been around it long enough, you know, 1:44:41.760 --> 1:44:43.799 towards the end of my career, I was like, holy 1:44:43.840 --> 1:44:44.679 smokes man. 1:44:45.040 --> 1:44:47.639 Yeah, you're leaving to go home after a twelve hour 1:44:47.760 --> 1:44:51.120 day and you're watching the coaches see their kids in 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:53.960 the parking lot for an hour before they got night meetings. 1:44:54.439 --> 1:44:56.519 No doubt, that's why people ask you want to go 1:44:56.560 --> 1:44:58.760 to coach? No, never want to coach. 1:44:58.840 --> 1:45:02.080 Ither hit my nestle the rubber Like, that's a terrible idea. 1:45:02.120 --> 1:45:03.320 What about a steel hammer? 1:45:03.520 --> 1:45:06.320 Yeah I'm not thoor, but yeah that would hurt. 1:45:08.320 --> 1:45:11.240 So what happened at this barbecue joint? What do we do? 1:45:11.760 --> 1:45:13.920 Chugg chugging beer? There's a lot to you. 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:16.240 By the way, By the way, do they know you're 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:17.720 like you have to be up there on. 1:45:17.720 --> 1:45:19.679 A board somewhere. I can chug a beer. 1:45:20.240 --> 1:45:22.240 And and the other guy that can chuck a beer, 1:45:22.280 --> 1:45:24.320 that's a little kind of a you wouldn't think so 1:45:24.520 --> 1:45:26.240 with like he's a little bit of a soft kiddy 1:45:26.600 --> 1:45:29.799 and some man categories. I mean, we just roasted him yesterday, 1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:32.000 so we can just say it. Tommy can chuck a beer. 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:34.479 He can chug a beer. He doesn't look like a chugger, no, 1:45:34.600 --> 1:45:36.720 but he can chuck a beer. He's you know what 1:45:36.720 --> 1:45:40.360 that tells me? He can got a good opening. 1:45:40.000 --> 1:45:40.479 Of the jaw. 1:45:41.000 --> 1:45:47.839 Oh, yeah, yeah, you know he I will never forget. 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:51.680 We used to practice at Bryant's College and that was 1:45:51.720 --> 1:45:54.720 a training camp. And there's a little place right when 1:45:54.760 --> 1:45:58.160 you turn into Brian College called Parentes, And I'll never 1:45:58.200 --> 1:46:01.800 forget because thy law and Lawyer, law Dog and all 1:46:01.840 --> 1:46:04.559 these guys would be like brand Is and we'd all 1:46:04.600 --> 1:46:07.000 go there and we'd sneak in and we get back 1:46:07.080 --> 1:46:09.640 right before curfew. And we were there one time and 1:46:09.680 --> 1:46:13.840 I remember Izzoh challenged Brady and I'm thinking, dude, is 1:46:13.880 --> 1:46:16.600 I was gonna smoke this cat and they and it 1:46:16.680 --> 1:46:19.200 was back when they had the pictures and they're pouring 1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:22.679 into the like a solo cuffs and I remember Tommy 1:46:22.680 --> 1:46:25.679 put that thing back and I'm like, oh my god, 1:46:26.240 --> 1:46:27.120 this kid's a gamer. 1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:30.479 He's a game gamer bringing off a fucking gamer. 1:46:30.800 --> 1:46:32.639 Yeah, there was a lot of chugging going on that night. 1:46:32.680 --> 1:46:36.120 I remember some guys got lost in the shuffle trying 1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:38.000 to get back to it. I remember somebody was late 1:46:38.120 --> 1:46:40.360 the next morning to the team meeting. 1:46:40.400 --> 1:46:43.840 Who I can't remember who it was, Nino, Oh, it 1:46:44.120 --> 1:46:46.120 was Ninko. I was like, this is unbelievable. 1:46:46.160 --> 1:46:47.200 It's like number three. 1:46:47.920 --> 1:46:48.599 I think it was meat. 1:46:48.760 --> 1:46:52.200 I guarantee it was Ninko. It was definitely Ninko. Something 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:54.720 happened to him. He got he got a little sideways 1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:57.599 or something. I don't know, but he was definitely late 1:46:58.040 --> 1:46:59.479 to the team. And Bill didn't care though. 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:02.280 That was a good point. Yeah, because we clinched. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:47:02.360 --> 1:47:04.160 we clinched. And it was also a kind of fucked 1:47:04.240 --> 1:47:08.880 up schedule. Yes. Also, remember we went to London. We 1:47:08.960 --> 1:47:10.680 had that same kind of vibe when we went to 1:47:10.760 --> 1:47:12.720 We almost fought the rams. 1:47:12.920 --> 1:47:15.280 You guys went to. I was hurt on that one there. 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:16.120 It killed me. 1:47:16.200 --> 1:47:18.080 Man, Oh, that was a fun trip. 1:47:18.760 --> 1:47:19.160 Killed me. 1:47:19.439 --> 1:47:23.519 Dude. Jared is getting like he couldn't even walk to 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:25.400 the bus the next morning because we stayed out. 1:47:25.360 --> 1:47:26.479 The Gallery of Diamonds. 1:47:26.560 --> 1:47:29.519 Jared Jared, Jared Jared our it guy. 1:47:30.120 --> 1:47:34.280 It could only be jermy dude. I said that every 1:47:34.320 --> 1:47:36.599 time I saw him. By the way, Jared's the best, 1:47:36.680 --> 1:47:39.920 the teddy, and Jared Jared's the one like that literally 1:47:39.960 --> 1:47:42.120 was losing his mind bringing a new mouse and new 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:44.360 keyboard in for Dante. When I used a little stick 1:47:44.360 --> 1:47:45.280 that I put in this computer. 1:47:45.600 --> 1:47:46.639 It was stick, the. 1:47:46.600 --> 1:47:48.519 One that made his mouse wander all over the place. 1:47:48.800 --> 1:47:50.840 Can you how long did you keep this prank? Going? 1:47:51.680 --> 1:47:55.519 Seven months and he lost it? Dante Los I forgot 1:47:55.520 --> 1:47:57.280 about it, to be honest with you. It wasn't like 1:47:57.320 --> 1:47:59.400 a plan that I put it in there towards the 1:47:59.479 --> 1:48:01.560 end of one seat and I was testing it and 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:03.040 it had like a thing where you could ramp up 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:05.200 the volume and it could do three different things, but 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:06.120 I chose to do one. 1:48:06.200 --> 1:48:08.120 It would just make the mouse wander randomly. 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:11.040 And I remember I put it in and I'd see 1:48:11.040 --> 1:48:13.479 it because we'd be watching film and he'd be using 1:48:13.520 --> 1:48:16.200 the remote and all of a sudden, the mouse just 1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:18.439 kind of wander over. But then it wouldn't do it 1:48:18.479 --> 1:48:20.680 for like an hour. So I kind of forgot about it. 1:48:20.720 --> 1:48:22.799 And I remember in the off season guys were complaining 1:48:22.840 --> 1:48:24.400 about they had a hard time with it, but I 1:48:24.439 --> 1:48:26.240 didn't put two and two together. Well, then we got 1:48:26.240 --> 1:48:29.040 to OTA's and I'm sitting in there watching film again, 1:48:29.080 --> 1:48:31.080 I'm like, this sucks, and I see the mouse wander 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:32.519 I'm like, oh snap. 1:48:32.800 --> 1:48:34.600 And I sat right in front of Dante. 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:37.439 Because he couldn't see me sleeping, so and I had 1:48:37.439 --> 1:48:39.360 an amazing ability to couple tell you this my head 1:48:39.360 --> 1:48:43.519 never bobbed, never, and I'd be dead asleep perfectly sitting there. 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:46.200 And Dante recognized it too. He ignowed like, I know, 1:48:46.520 --> 1:48:48.960 I know you can sleep without moving your head. It's amazing. 1:48:49.240 --> 1:48:52.519 And I'm like, oh, thanks, coach, And so I would. 1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:53.879 I could reach right. 1:48:53.720 --> 1:48:55.880 Behind me and pull that thing out, and I remember 1:48:55.920 --> 1:48:57.760 I ramped it up and I put it back in, 1:48:58.080 --> 1:49:01.080 and that's when all hell broke loose and Dante's dog 1:49:01.120 --> 1:49:03.920 cussing it. He go get Jimmy D, he go get Jared. 1:49:03.960 --> 1:49:06.240 They bring in a new keyboard, a new mouse. They 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:08.720 put it all in then the next day and by 1:49:08.720 --> 1:49:10.880 the way, when they come in, I just pop it out, 1:49:11.040 --> 1:49:13.760 so they're like messing with their like, coach, well we'll 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:14.920 put a new keyboard mouse in. 1:49:15.280 --> 1:49:16.360 So that went on for like a. 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:19.360 Week and Dante's losing his shit. He can't run his 1:49:19.439 --> 1:49:21.479 meeting right. And the minute he go to click on 1:49:21.520 --> 1:49:24.920 something to be like woo, he flung a bitch and 1:49:24.920 --> 1:49:27.680 he bring it back over and try to click. I 1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:30.839 remember the day I walk in and Jimmy D stops 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:33.320 me and he goes, look me in the eye, and 1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:37.599 don't you lie to me. He goes, I found that 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:38.920 stick because I forgot to take it out. 1:49:38.960 --> 1:49:39.320 One day. 1:49:39.880 --> 1:49:42.160 I found that stick that USB drive you put in 1:49:42.200 --> 1:49:46.360 a computer, and your dumb ass almost made it so 1:49:46.439 --> 1:49:49.240 that I fired XOS. I'm like, what are you talking about? 1:49:49.520 --> 1:49:50.160 He's like, what do you mean? 1:49:50.160 --> 1:49:51.960 What am I talking about? He's like, I couldn't figure 1:49:51.960 --> 1:49:54.559 out what the hell is wrong. I'm blaming the software company. 1:49:54.680 --> 1:49:57.160 I'm dog cussing them every single day for a freaking week. 1:49:57.560 --> 1:49:59.120 He's like, don't ever do that again. 1:50:00.920 --> 1:50:03.680 I was like, oh my god, it's amazing. Did you 1:50:03.760 --> 1:50:05.559 get him with a shocking remote too? 1:50:06.040 --> 1:50:09.120 I did, and that one was so great because he 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:13.160 on his remote control for running the video Cowboy clicker, yep, 1:50:13.200 --> 1:50:17.000 the Cowboy. He there's a piece of tape on it 1:50:17.120 --> 1:50:20.840 and it said remote and I took mine, and my 1:50:21.000 --> 1:50:23.920 remote was it wasn't it wouldn't do nothing. But I 1:50:23.960 --> 1:50:26.080 put that sticker, that piece of tape over it, and 1:50:26.120 --> 1:50:28.840 it had all these little buttons, and it had one 1:50:29.080 --> 1:50:31.519 chrome button that was outlined in red, and if I 1:50:31.600 --> 1:50:33.360 told you the world would end if you clicked it, 1:50:33.560 --> 1:50:36.200 you couldn't help yourself. It was so cool looking, shiny, 1:50:36.880 --> 1:50:38.160 you know what I mean. Like it's just like something 1:50:38.200 --> 1:50:40.160 you had to press. So I put the little thing 1:50:40.200 --> 1:50:42.320 on there, and I'll never forget man, he said, I 1:50:42.360 --> 1:50:44.439 didn't tell I never used to tell the guys anything. 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:47.000 And I'm sitting there waiting for the shoe to drop right, 1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:48.800 and he walks in. He's talking about something up on 1:50:48.800 --> 1:50:51.040 the whiteboard, and he comes, all right, we're gonna watch 1:50:51.040 --> 1:50:53.960 a little third down here. And he's sitting there and 1:50:54.000 --> 1:50:55.880 he's got the tape playing. He goes, oh, he goes, 1:50:56.520 --> 1:50:58.200 I got a new remote, and I can hear him 1:50:58.200 --> 1:50:58.439 say it. 1:50:58.439 --> 1:51:00.320 I'm like, oh shit, here we go. And he goes, 1:51:00.320 --> 1:51:00.840 I wonder if. 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:02.360 This thing's got a laser pointer on it, because a 1:51:02.400 --> 1:51:07.120 laser pointer on this other one didn't work. He hits 1:51:07.160 --> 1:51:10.200 the button. You can hear the electricity go through him. 1:51:10.439 --> 1:51:13.479 He's like, oh god, damn it. And he drops it 1:51:17.600 --> 1:51:20.479 and he picked it up and did it again. And 1:51:20.600 --> 1:51:23.680 that's when we lose it, because the first time that happened, like, 1:51:23.760 --> 1:51:26.080 Cope's looking at me like holy shit, like what was that? 1:51:26.280 --> 1:51:28.120 And I've given him a look like oh my god, 1:51:29.479 --> 1:51:31.559 and he did it the second time. And when we 1:51:31.600 --> 1:51:35.640 all start losing, he is, okay, all right, you fat fuckers. 1:51:36.320 --> 1:51:38.680 He goes, We'll see how funny this is out of practice? 1:51:40.120 --> 1:51:42.759 What do you make you do? Run? Oh man? Yeah? 1:51:42.840 --> 1:51:45.320 Yeah, by the way, that okay. So I'm so sorry, 1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:48.519 but this was reminded me that look of copin. There's 1:51:48.640 --> 1:51:50.280 one other time, and I don't know if you remember this. 1:51:50.320 --> 1:51:54.200 Remember Pierre Woods, I lived with them. Do you remember 1:51:54.200 --> 1:51:56.439 what I did to him? And this is one of 1:51:56.479 --> 1:51:58.439 my This is one that I wish, like hell I 1:51:58.439 --> 1:52:00.519 would have. I usually film most of my up I 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:02.479 didn't film this one. No, I didn't remember. 1:52:02.560 --> 1:52:03.080 Oh my god. 1:52:03.160 --> 1:52:06.679 So this is amazing. So one year, going into camp, 1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:08.680 I'm thinking about things like, you know, I should do 1:52:08.680 --> 1:52:10.720 a dwardo the blow up doll, and I'd be butt 1:52:10.840 --> 1:52:12.760 naked stitting over it when the coach would comeing to 1:52:12.800 --> 1:52:15.720 do room check. I had two candles typically send it 1:52:15.720 --> 1:52:18.439 in Bayberry and like I'd have Marvin Gaye playing and 1:52:18.479 --> 1:52:20.640 I'd literally have my ass facing them and I'd be 1:52:20.680 --> 1:52:22.960 putting lipstick on a big blow up doll. And when 1:52:22.960 --> 1:52:24.800 they walk in, I hear the door open, I turn 1:52:24.880 --> 1:52:27.880 and be like no, no, no, and they'd be like shit. 1:52:27.880 --> 1:52:29.960 It'd be like the young guy and all the other 1:52:29.960 --> 1:52:31.760 coach when I walk in. They'd be like, oh, dude, 1:52:31.760 --> 1:52:34.120 you should have seen his face now, he was freaking out. 1:52:34.320 --> 1:52:36.040 I'm like, I know, I got it good, or I'd 1:52:36.040 --> 1:52:37.479 be dancing with him butt naked. 1:52:37.840 --> 1:52:38.360 It was awesome. 1:52:38.360 --> 1:52:39.679 I used to love room check man. 1:52:39.840 --> 1:52:41.559 Anyway. Ivan was always funny. 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:44.240 Was I even hated it when I did that stuff. 1:52:44.280 --> 1:52:45.680 When I found out that Ivan was doing that, I 1:52:45.720 --> 1:52:49.439 always had something special for him. He didn't find any 1:52:49.479 --> 1:52:51.000 of it funny, I don't think, but that was all right. 1:52:51.000 --> 1:52:51.479 I still. 1:52:54.479 --> 1:52:57.840 So going getting ready for camp. I'm like, okay, I 1:52:57.840 --> 1:53:01.400 gotta do something, and so I went. I went to 1:53:01.439 --> 1:53:03.680 a gas station in Foxborough and I bought like, I 1:53:03.680 --> 1:53:06.400 think it was like crossword puzzle scratch off tickets, right, 1:53:06.720 --> 1:53:08.679 and I bought the whole role. It was like eight 1:53:08.760 --> 1:53:11.720 hundred and sixty bucks or something. And I walk in 1:53:12.160 --> 1:53:14.920 on like day three, and I dropped it at the 1:53:14.920 --> 1:53:16.880 beginning of the locker room, and it was like it 1:53:16.920 --> 1:53:19.040 was like an accordion. They were all together, and I walked 1:53:19.040 --> 1:53:21.599 almost halfway through the locker room and I was like, hey, boys, 1:53:21.600 --> 1:53:22.920 if we're gonna be in here all day, we might 1:53:22.920 --> 1:53:25.120 as well try to make some money. Let's have some fun. 1:53:25.160 --> 1:53:25.400 With it. 1:53:25.439 --> 1:53:27.040 So guys are coming over and ripping them off. I 1:53:27.080 --> 1:53:29.000 was like, eh, do whatever, man, just scratching them away. 1:53:29.200 --> 1:53:31.800 And it worked perfectly because they all became crackheads and 1:53:31.840 --> 1:53:34.160 you couldn't get a scratch off ticket in Foxborough. You 1:53:34.520 --> 1:53:36.880 drive to another town to get scratch off tickets. I remember, 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:39.920 and there's shavings everywhere, like I mean, shavings over the 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:42.519 whole place. So I let that boil for a while 1:53:42.720 --> 1:53:44.800 and about a week and a half into it. Because 1:53:44.920 --> 1:53:48.080 now again today, everybody knows these things. Back then, nobody 1:53:48.160 --> 1:53:51.680 saw the fake scratch off tickets. The problem though, is 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:53.559 that I had to create a narrative because these fake 1:53:53.800 --> 1:53:57.479 scratch off tickets they were smaller. So I started talking 1:53:57.520 --> 1:53:59.200 about how like, man, you can't find you know, and 1:53:59.240 --> 1:54:01.519 I didn't. It just worked out to work out this way. 1:54:01.560 --> 1:54:03.760 But I said, I can't find the crosswords, so I've 1:54:03.760 --> 1:54:05.680 been doing the four leaf clover or some shit, the 1:54:05.720 --> 1:54:07.639 Irish one. And then I'm like, you know what, though, 1:54:07.720 --> 1:54:09.439 but they have these really cool ones. I think they're 1:54:09.479 --> 1:54:13.160 county tickets. It's not state tickets, they're county scratch off tickets. 1:54:13.320 --> 1:54:15.040 But they say that the odds are really good on them, 1:54:15.080 --> 1:54:17.879 like you can hit big. So I set the scenario. 1:54:17.960 --> 1:54:20.639 So this day, in particular, after laying all this ground 1:54:20.640 --> 1:54:24.240 where Coping's right next to me, and Pierre was like 1:54:24.360 --> 1:54:25.800 right next to me too, and there's a whole bunch 1:54:25.800 --> 1:54:27.559 of other guys and they're all crackhead. They're all scratching 1:54:27.560 --> 1:54:30.000 tickets and we would let other guys scratch tickets for us, right, 1:54:30.800 --> 1:54:33.240 So Pierre's sitting there and I had those sitting there, 1:54:33.280 --> 1:54:34.880 and I was telling Cope and he heard me talking 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:36.840 about the county ticket and he goes, liter, you want 1:54:36.880 --> 1:54:38.640 me scratch some of these for you. I'm like, yeah, man, 1:54:38.800 --> 1:54:41.320 whatever you gotta do. So he's sitting there and he's scratching, 1:54:41.640 --> 1:54:42.360 and I'm just scratching. 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:43.640 I'm just waiting, scratching. 1:54:43.720 --> 1:54:46.280 All of a sudden, he's like, oh, light, dog, you 1:54:46.320 --> 1:54:49.480 got you need one more for twenty five Oul, twenty. 1:54:49.200 --> 1:54:50.200 Five Poul for one more. 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:52.000 All of a sudden, dude, he scratched it. He's like, 1:54:52.320 --> 1:54:55.160 hey dog, hey, hey, hey, light, Like look. 1:54:55.040 --> 1:54:55.440 At this shit. 1:54:55.560 --> 1:54:58.080 You just want twenty five thousand dollars like you just 1:54:58.120 --> 1:55:00.560 want twenty whoop whoop. And he it's up and he 1:55:00.560 --> 1:55:03.040 starts running around the locker room and the next thing, 1:55:03.080 --> 1:55:05.640 you know, dude, it's like soul trained. Everybody's dancing. They 1:55:05.640 --> 1:55:06.920 crank the music up, like. 1:55:06.800 --> 1:55:10.080 Twenty five twenty five baby, and he's running all over 1:55:10.080 --> 1:55:10.440 the place. 1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:12.920 Everybody's amped up. Copein's looking at me. I'm like, damn, 1:55:12.920 --> 1:55:15.280 I just want twenty five thousand, you know, And I say, hey, man, 1:55:15.320 --> 1:55:18.800 come here. It comes over and I go, I guess 1:55:18.800 --> 1:55:19.880 I just take it to where I got it. 1:55:20.000 --> 1:55:20.200 Hunt. 1:55:20.240 --> 1:55:22.240 I go, it's the same thing about where to claim it? 1:55:22.320 --> 1:55:25.400 Now on the back of it, he turns it around 1:55:25.440 --> 1:55:29.280 and he goes to claim prize. Please go see Santa 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:30.200 Claus the North pot man. 1:55:30.240 --> 1:55:30.640 What the shit? 1:55:31.400 --> 1:55:34.320 He's like, if Santa Claus is not available, please see 1:55:34.320 --> 1:55:36.800 the Tooth Fairy. And like he's like looking at me 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:38.920 and like huh, And the copin looks at me, and 1:55:38.960 --> 1:55:44.640 I'm like and he knows. Immediately Pierre read the whole thing. Finally, 1:55:45.600 --> 1:55:49.120 I'm like, I'm sorry, man, I didn't win. He was 1:55:49.360 --> 1:55:52.320 so mad at me, dude, so mad at me. But 1:55:52.360 --> 1:55:55.560 if you would have seen that scene, you would have died, dude. 1:55:56.160 --> 1:55:58.720 I remember for a while, scratchers were huge in the 1:55:58.720 --> 1:56:05.320 locker room in that training room. That's why, Jesus Jack 1:56:05.360 --> 1:56:06.320 what we got all right? 1:56:06.360 --> 1:56:09.080 To wrap this thing up, The Pats went on to win, 1:56:09.400 --> 1:56:13.240 We got out of Buffalo, got home safely, would finish 1:56:13.320 --> 1:56:17.280 the season fourteen and two, but unfortunately lose in the 1:56:17.320 --> 1:56:20.880 AFC Division Round in the Can't Wait Game to the 1:56:20.920 --> 1:56:21.880 freaking Jets. 1:56:23.280 --> 1:56:26.120 Brutal, brutal Bart Scott Bart Scott. 1:56:26.600 --> 1:56:29.280 Tom Brady would finish the year with three hundred and 1:56:29.280 --> 1:56:33.280 thirty five consecutive pass attempts without an interception, breaking his 1:56:34.240 --> 1:56:37.120 own two thousand and seven t D to interception ratio 1:56:37.560 --> 1:56:39.920 as well with a record of nine to one. He 1:56:40.000 --> 1:56:43.640 was MVP, and the Patriots committed an NFL record low 1:56:44.000 --> 1:56:49.280 ten turnovers on the season, Pretty darn impressive and statistically, 1:56:49.880 --> 1:56:53.440 the twenty ten offense was more efficient play for play 1:56:53.760 --> 1:56:55.920 than the record setting two thousand and seven offense, which 1:56:55.960 --> 1:56:59.720 is pretty crazy, buts were taken. 1:56:59.760 --> 1:57:02.680 Aw We also ran the ball down on people's throat, 1:57:03.760 --> 1:57:04.120 by the way. 1:57:04.160 --> 1:57:08.040 That that's probably the biggest component I think in in 1:57:08.080 --> 1:57:12.880 the offensive you know, game plan, mindset. You know, Dante 1:57:13.000 --> 1:57:15.240 used to always say we rush the ball twenty five 1:57:15.280 --> 1:57:17.080 times or more, we're gonna win the game. In most 1:57:17.720 --> 1:57:20.880 most cases, right, yeah, and it's so true, man, And 1:57:20.920 --> 1:57:24.680 I think again, you know, Bill always talked about, you 1:57:24.720 --> 1:57:27.720 know where you developed toughness, right, offense and defensive line 1:57:27.720 --> 1:57:31.800 and special teams, right, and then where specifically in the 1:57:31.880 --> 1:57:35.680 run game offensively, you know, if you can develop that 1:57:35.840 --> 1:57:37.400 and and again I'll go back to not be the 1:57:37.400 --> 1:57:40.280 Debbie downer, but if you can't put the pads on 1:57:40.520 --> 1:57:44.360 and hit and condition and get rep after rep after rep, 1:57:44.880 --> 1:57:47.760 you can't be a good run team. And by the way, 1:57:47.800 --> 1:57:52.240 we know we were really good at screens man, And 1:57:52.240 --> 1:57:56.080 and that's you know, how delicate that process. 1:57:56.240 --> 1:57:59.240 What do you call it? The sideline, the marker in 1:57:59.280 --> 1:58:01.680 between the hash where you guys always had to get 1:58:01.720 --> 1:58:04.440 to yes, man, and numbers in the hash. Yeah, where 1:58:04.840 --> 1:58:06.840 I used to first out, first up. 1:58:07.080 --> 1:58:09.640 And then look back. I remember one time Bill came 1:58:09.680 --> 1:58:11.320 to me, He's like, why'd you do that? Because I 1:58:11.360 --> 1:58:13.800 was running on a tear screen to go kick out 1:58:13.880 --> 1:58:16.640 number one, and it'd be one of those where, like, 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:20.720 you know, you'd get coming and I'm trying to kick 1:58:20.720 --> 1:58:22.600 the guy out and my fat ass just trying to 1:58:22.600 --> 1:58:24.760 get there in time. Well, I'm running full speed at 1:58:24.800 --> 1:58:26.800 this dude, and I must have just said. I don't 1:58:26.840 --> 1:58:30.680 remember consciously, but I hit the brakes and peeled back 1:58:30.840 --> 1:58:33.680 and there was a guy trailing and he was behind 1:58:33.720 --> 1:58:36.839 me and I hit him. He was most dangerous. Just happened. 1:58:37.000 --> 1:58:39.560 And Bill's like, I'll never forget. He's never come and 1:58:39.600 --> 1:58:42.000 asked me a question like that. But even I when 1:58:42.000 --> 1:58:43.520 I was when I did it, I was like, I 1:58:43.560 --> 1:58:44.880 don't know why I did that, but I'm glad I 1:58:44.920 --> 1:58:47.200 did that shit. And he came and asked me. He's like, 1:58:47.440 --> 1:58:49.680 why'd you do that? Because you shouldn't have done that, 1:58:49.720 --> 1:58:52.360 But I'm glad you did that. But dude, screens were 1:58:53.080 --> 1:58:56.400 Screens are such an important part of an offense, and 1:58:56.440 --> 1:59:01.400 they're so hard that you have to have smart physical players. 1:59:01.040 --> 1:59:02.520 Slows down the pass rush. 1:59:02.720 --> 1:59:05.160 Oh, such a weapon, man, it's a huge weapon. 1:59:05.720 --> 1:59:06.080 I know it. 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:08.560 Run game and screens, man, That's that's what I would 1:59:08.560 --> 1:59:11.480 focus on, man, if I was coaching today in the NFL, 1:59:11.560 --> 1:59:12.920 all the other stuff. You know a lot of teams 1:59:12.920 --> 1:59:17.680 can do. You know certain aspects of the overall passing 1:59:17.680 --> 1:59:18.400 game pretty well. 1:59:18.640 --> 1:59:20.480 Yeah, as you know better than anything is you can't 1:59:20.480 --> 1:59:22.000 control the game unless you run the ball. 1:59:22.600 --> 1:59:24.480 Yeah, you know what I mean that's how you control 1:59:24.520 --> 1:59:27.520 the game. Well, how bad were you dying when we 1:59:27.560 --> 1:59:31.640 would go into these no huddle you know, throwing like 1:59:31.760 --> 1:59:33.320 every single you know, Timmy wanted to throw the ball 1:59:33.320 --> 1:59:35.680 every down, right, Yeah, you guys had to be dying 1:59:36.240 --> 1:59:37.280 at times. 1:59:37.640 --> 1:59:39.840 Yeah, it was tough. I mean when we played in 1:59:39.840 --> 1:59:42.800 that Super Bowl in sixteen, we had one hundred and 1:59:42.840 --> 1:59:47.040 like ten or fifteen offensive plays. That's a big game. 1:59:47.320 --> 1:59:50.120 That's two games, yeah, like a legit two games where 1:59:50.120 --> 1:59:51.720 he had one hundred and ten plays or something. It 1:59:51.760 --> 1:59:53.080 was gnarly. Yeah. 1:59:53.080 --> 1:59:57.000 Man, we've had games in the fifties. Yeah, you know, 1:59:57.160 --> 1:59:58.760 I mean that's two that's two damn games. 1:59:58.960 --> 1:59:59.400 Yeah. 2:00:00.040 --> 2:00:01.560 Know how they could do that today and keep it 2:00:01.640 --> 2:00:03.600 up at a high level, Dude. 2:00:03.320 --> 2:00:06.320 It's gonna it's it's gonna pendule him back. Because linebackers 2:00:06.320 --> 2:00:09.480 are getting small. Linebackers are two hundred and twenty five pounds. 2:00:10.160 --> 2:00:13.960 It's fucking crazy, two thirty Yeah, and you can exploit 2:00:14.000 --> 2:00:17.200 that right, Yeah, to your point, you can get you can. 2:00:17.640 --> 2:00:20.400 They're light, and a lot of the dns they just 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:23.520 want to rush. You know. All these guys are built 2:00:23.560 --> 2:00:26.480 for fucking pinning their ears back and getting to the quarterback. 2:00:26.880 --> 2:00:29.160 You think about the guys that we were blocking up front, 2:00:29.280 --> 2:00:32.760 the Dwight Freenies and the Mathis's, and I mean even 2:00:32.760 --> 2:00:34.919 think about our division. Like a guy like Aaron Shobel 2:00:35.560 --> 2:00:40.440 Hustler just got after right, John Abraham for me in 2:00:40.480 --> 2:00:43.880 the early days, Serxes or Jason Taylor. 2:00:44.080 --> 2:00:48.160 Yeah, because he did look just like he really did. 2:00:48.200 --> 2:00:54.000 He did Acrod Oh yeah, man, yeah, school too, he 2:00:54.080 --> 2:00:57.360 was homeschooled. Yeah. Man, you know Gronk lived with them 2:00:57.960 --> 2:01:00.000 in high school. When Grenk get kicked out of school 2:01:01.040 --> 2:01:03.960 and with j T. Yeah, his family. He went to 2:01:03.960 --> 2:01:11.720 Pittsburgh Wild. That's a weird combination. It's weird, well Gronk, 2:01:11.880 --> 2:01:13.800 Gronk said, in the sense, I guess he sends an 2:01:13.800 --> 2:01:17.000 email to one of his teachers like suck my piece 2:01:17.080 --> 2:01:22.880 or something. Yeah, it got kicked out of school and 2:01:22.920 --> 2:01:28.160 so I went to Pittsburgh to play high school football. 2:01:28.240 --> 2:01:30.640 From what I heard, he was very flexible when he 2:01:30.680 --> 2:01:34.920 was in high school. Gronk was he yeah, yeah, is 2:01:34.960 --> 2:01:38.120 this a joke? No, but you should probably talk to 2:01:38.200 --> 2:01:38.680 him about that. 2:01:39.520 --> 2:01:41.240 Oh what he's on next time? 2:01:41.360 --> 2:01:47.280 I won't be that guy. Ohod just you. 2:01:47.240 --> 2:01:51.040 Know, good hamstring flexibility. I mean, he was a good athlete. 2:01:51.360 --> 2:01:57.120 Obviously he's a monster, very flexible. Jack wet he left over. 2:01:57.240 --> 2:02:00.280 We got a couple. Uh, just to clarify here, shout 2:02:00.280 --> 2:02:02.800 out to Clark Hunt and the Kansas City Chiefs. Just 2:02:02.840 --> 2:02:05.240 got rid of the stools in the locker room this march. 2:02:05.640 --> 2:02:06.760 Replace them with shares. 2:02:06.840 --> 2:02:07.080 Yep. 2:02:07.320 --> 2:02:08.600 They were one of the last holdouts. 2:02:09.080 --> 2:02:10.080 That's always good for them. 2:02:10.560 --> 2:02:13.040 I don't remember them. I do remember them because anytime 2:02:13.080 --> 2:02:14.840 we play a stool thing, I would think about you 2:02:15.560 --> 2:02:16.960 a stool team like that. 2:02:17.120 --> 2:02:19.880 Like, oh my god. And we got to give a 2:02:19.920 --> 2:02:23.800 little love to Scar getting his IMDb credits up. The 2:02:23.800 --> 2:02:27.200 movie The Steeler and the Pittsburgh Kid nineteen eighty one, 2:02:27.960 --> 2:02:32.240 starring Jhontay Scarnekia as coach Uh. The movie was based 2:02:32.280 --> 2:02:34.640 on the the Me and Joe Green coke commercial, which 2:02:34.640 --> 2:02:39.280 is pretty crazy. Yeah, insane, pretty good. Yeah, it was 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:41.440 h it's a deep cut. I love that one. 2:02:42.680 --> 2:02:42.960 Scar. 2:02:43.200 --> 2:02:44.600 We gotta go back and watch that one. 2:02:44.880 --> 2:02:51.480 We'll be right back after this quick break. Now, let's 2:02:51.600 --> 2:02:55.280 name the game. What's the name of this game? We're 2:02:55.400 --> 2:03:02.000 staying in Buffalo Turnover Fest twenty ten. What is that? 2:03:02.040 --> 2:03:03.920 We didn't have any turnovers. It's seven only four to 2:03:03.960 --> 2:03:06.000 seven four seven, But we didn't turn the ball over. 2:03:06.160 --> 2:03:08.960 No, that's true. We got anything else, or you. 2:03:08.960 --> 2:03:13.600 Got a better name for this game. Dinosaur for life. 2:03:13.800 --> 2:03:17.600 Here we go, dinosaur for life. Yeah, baby, Now, let's 2:03:17.600 --> 2:03:20.520 score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? 2:03:20.680 --> 2:03:24.520 Let's score it. That's a zero steaks huh? 2:03:24.600 --> 2:03:25.880 Not the greatest game of all time? 2:03:25.960 --> 2:03:30.200 No way, one to ten decimals. Okay, steaks steaks point 2:03:31.120 --> 2:03:35.920 point five point five? Yeah, you do it too. Yeah, 2:03:35.960 --> 2:03:37.560 I'll say a four five. 2:03:39.680 --> 2:03:40.920 Yeah, you're right, you're right. 2:03:40.960 --> 2:03:44.080 But yeah, a great scheme with me. It's Buffalo, you 2:03:44.120 --> 2:03:46.640 know what I'm saying. Little brothers. You know, it sucks 2:03:46.640 --> 2:03:48.800 that now we're the little brothers. And I know, at 2:03:48.880 --> 2:03:51.440 least when we were the older brothers, like the big 2:03:51.480 --> 2:03:53.360 boys on the block, we were going out beating up 2:03:53.440 --> 2:03:54.160 the other kids. 2:03:54.520 --> 2:03:56.720 By the way, one of the greatest Buffalo games was 2:03:57.640 --> 2:04:03.440 we ship low Doll down there, lawyer ly and they 2:04:03.720 --> 2:04:07.800 whoop our tail thirty one and nothing season opener yep. 2:04:07.840 --> 2:04:09.080 And by the way, we shipped in there like the 2:04:09.120 --> 2:04:11.760 week before and it was so awkward, you know, how 2:04:11.800 --> 2:04:13.880 like when that white buffalo comes in and snatches a dude. 2:04:14.280 --> 2:04:16.400 The feeling in there is so weird, especially when it's 2:04:16.400 --> 2:04:17.320 one of your top guys. 2:04:18.240 --> 2:04:20.840 And then can you explain what the white buffalo is? Yeah? 2:04:21.000 --> 2:04:21.160 Like this. 2:04:21.720 --> 2:04:24.400 So we always said, there's this bend that they bring 2:04:24.480 --> 2:04:26.720 out in the locker room and they throw all the 2:04:26.760 --> 2:04:29.080 guy's stuff and they clear out that locker and you 2:04:29.120 --> 2:04:31.880 come in and man, that dude's just gone the turk. 2:04:32.520 --> 2:04:34.440 Yeah, man, and. 2:04:34.200 --> 2:04:36.360 That when that happens to a guy like him, though, Man, 2:04:36.400 --> 2:04:39.320 it takes a little bit Like I like when Logan 2:04:39.680 --> 2:04:42.480 was traded. That was weird that that had to be crazy. 2:04:42.520 --> 2:04:44.320 I wasn't there for that, obviously, but you were there. 2:04:44.440 --> 2:04:46.000 I was there. It was crazy. I was like, what 2:04:46.040 --> 2:04:47.280 the fuck are we doing? 2:04:47.400 --> 2:04:49.560 And by the way, what was he thinking? 2:04:49.720 --> 2:04:51.160 We won a super Bowl that year? 2:04:51.360 --> 2:04:53.960 I know it's the crazy thing, but that was not 2:04:54.200 --> 2:04:56.040 a good move on his part in my opinion. 2:04:56.080 --> 2:04:58.640 But whatever, what do I know. I'm not a world 2:04:58.720 --> 2:05:05.520 record coach. You're a world record, handsome gentleman. Let's get 2:05:05.520 --> 2:05:07.680 back to star power, you know, to say that when 2:05:07.920 --> 2:05:11.440 when one to ten star power of this game, I. 2:05:11.360 --> 2:05:14.480 Don't know four with these numbers. 2:05:14.680 --> 2:05:19.000 It's all right, I'll say six. Okay. The gameplay of 2:05:19.000 --> 2:05:20.040 this game, it was a blowout. 2:05:20.480 --> 2:05:23.000 Well, I mean from our perspective, it was pretty pretty stellar, 2:05:23.440 --> 2:05:24.000 pretty amazing. 2:05:24.040 --> 2:05:26.160 Guys ran with two hundred and fourteen yards. 2:05:26.440 --> 2:05:28.600 Every fat man's dream, man's just to run the ball 2:05:28.680 --> 2:05:29.560 every single play. 2:05:30.240 --> 2:05:32.839 You rather hit someone than get hit all day. 2:05:32.680 --> 2:05:35.520 Long, man back in, go forward. Give me a nine 2:05:35.520 --> 2:05:41.000 on gameplay, I'll give it a eight one. What's the name? 2:05:41.080 --> 2:05:41.800 Category mean? 2:05:42.200 --> 2:05:44.600 You gotta you gotta score the name of the game. Oh, okay, 2:05:44.640 --> 2:05:45.520 score the name of the game. 2:05:45.640 --> 2:05:47.040 And the cultural impact of the game. 2:05:47.040 --> 2:05:49.760 How much it like that has a lasting? Yeah, I'm 2:05:49.800 --> 2:05:53.040 gonna I'm gonna go nine again because I I felt 2:05:53.040 --> 2:05:53.760 it on this game. 2:05:54.520 --> 2:05:59.080 I'm gonna go seven point eight seven eight all right, geez, 2:05:59.160 --> 2:06:03.560 look at these guys. The Russian We went full Russian judge. 2:06:03.600 --> 2:06:04.800 That was before I knew it. I had a great name. 2:06:04.880 --> 2:06:06.040 Dinosaur for Life game. 2:06:06.680 --> 2:06:08.720 Five point eight? Where's that? Where does that go on? 2:06:08.720 --> 2:06:14.120 On the leaderboard? That puts us dead last? Just below game. 2:06:15.160 --> 2:06:19.400 Two of the twenty fourteen n LDS. So we're like the. 2:06:19.600 --> 2:06:21.720 Let's have a whole system here. This is like, uh, 2:06:21.840 --> 2:06:22.400 it's wild. 2:06:22.600 --> 2:06:24.840 Those are all the games we've done. That's a lot. 2:06:24.880 --> 2:06:27.600 There's a lot of work being put into this. I see. 2:06:27.600 --> 2:06:28.800 It's you know, you know, like so I've never been 2:06:28.800 --> 2:06:31.040 on social media in my life. Yeah, and so I'm 2:06:31.040 --> 2:06:33.680 a little bit of a dinosaur myself in that respect. 2:06:33.720 --> 2:06:35.720 But you know what, here's my theory, man. I think 2:06:35.800 --> 2:06:38.880 it's actually going to become like the cool thing down 2:06:38.920 --> 2:06:41.800 the road, to be like retro No, yeah, you know 2:06:41.760 --> 2:06:43.400 what I mean, like bell bottoms and all this stuff. 2:06:43.400 --> 2:06:45.800 It ends upcoming cyclical, right. I think there's going to 2:06:45.880 --> 2:06:48.440 be a cachet to the people that like, I don't 2:06:48.480 --> 2:06:50.920 know anything about this cat, like I can't find nothing. 2:06:51.760 --> 2:06:53.600 I mean, although I've kind of shared most of my 2:06:53.720 --> 2:06:59.560 secrets today except for one. Thank you, Thank you center, 2:07:00.280 --> 2:07:02.040 next one, next. 2:07:01.680 --> 2:07:04.800 Time, next time. Let's really good, it's got it. We 2:07:05.000 --> 2:07:07.280 have everybody in. You gotta ring the boys in. 2:07:07.480 --> 2:07:11.960 I always feel like somebody's what. I started singing that 2:07:12.000 --> 2:07:15.080 and he finished it in the shower. Do you remember 2:07:16.000 --> 2:07:18.560 did you know that? I know you're gonna love that. 2:07:18.760 --> 2:07:21.160 I'm never gonna love that. That happened in real time. 2:07:21.800 --> 2:07:25.200 We're at the fighting artichokes or something, and I started 2:07:25.200 --> 2:07:28.280 singing that right next and he finished it and we 2:07:28.400 --> 2:07:32.960 almost lost it. Don't be an idiot, all right, stop 2:07:33.480 --> 2:07:37.640 this is terrible, Matt. You want to plug anything and man, 2:07:37.680 --> 2:07:40.120 you know what, as you know, Man, as much fun 2:07:40.160 --> 2:07:44.520 as I like to have shoot out and the foundation. Man, 2:07:44.560 --> 2:07:47.680 look you know again, I was the most fortunate guy ever. 2:07:48.040 --> 2:07:50.240 I didn't know anything about what I was getting myself into. 2:07:50.520 --> 2:07:53.520 Got to play with guys like yourself, so many others. 2:07:53.960 --> 2:07:56.320 We did it at a high level, We had fun 2:07:56.400 --> 2:08:00.320 doing it, we won, and all of that gave me 2:08:00.360 --> 2:08:00.959 a platform. 2:08:01.000 --> 2:08:01.160 Man. 2:08:01.200 --> 2:08:04.360 We work with about seventy five hundred kids annually. It's 2:08:04.400 --> 2:08:07.080 all about leadership, man, It's about speaking the truth to 2:08:07.200 --> 2:08:07.839 young people. 2:08:08.080 --> 2:08:08.320 You know. 2:08:08.400 --> 2:08:12.000 We don't sugarcoat things. We push them outside their comfort zone. 2:08:12.360 --> 2:08:14.600 We take kids that maybe would have never had an 2:08:14.640 --> 2:08:17.960 opportunity to do something. We spend time with them, my dad, 2:08:18.080 --> 2:08:21.200 my mom, my wife, my kids, my aunts and my uncles, 2:08:21.280 --> 2:08:24.840 our employees. I love it. It's been my life passion. 2:08:25.000 --> 2:08:27.240 I mean when I was playing, when we were playing together, 2:08:27.760 --> 2:08:30.520 I spent two weeks in the woods running what we 2:08:30.560 --> 2:08:33.440 call our cultural leadership camp Camp buhocause and I would 2:08:33.440 --> 2:08:35.040 go from being in New Yorks with these kids for 2:08:35.040 --> 2:08:37.000 two weeks not working out and I do nothing and 2:08:37.000 --> 2:08:38.720 then freaking out because I had like five days to 2:08:38.760 --> 2:08:41.080 run the conditioning tests to get my ass ready. But 2:08:41.120 --> 2:08:41.800 my mind was right. 2:08:41.840 --> 2:08:41.960 Man. 2:08:41.960 --> 2:08:43.080 When I got the camp, I was good. 2:08:43.240 --> 2:08:43.440 Yeah. 2:08:43.600 --> 2:08:45.560 And so it's like been a passion of mine. You know, 2:08:45.600 --> 2:08:47.760 I come from a family of educators. My mom taught 2:08:47.800 --> 2:08:51.400 for thirty five years music. My dad is a you know, 2:08:51.480 --> 2:08:54.200 world renowned, you know, just guy in so many different 2:08:54.200 --> 2:08:57.720 fields and teacher, and so you know, the work we 2:08:57.760 --> 2:09:00.360 do through the Life Foundation is all about getting kids 2:09:00.440 --> 2:09:03.840 to just understand what it means to look people in 2:09:03.840 --> 2:09:08.560 the eye, treating with respect, earn what they get. Entitlement 2:09:08.880 --> 2:09:12.280 gets us nowhere. And if I think for young people today, 2:09:12.960 --> 2:09:14.720 those are the lessons that serve me well. I mean 2:09:14.720 --> 2:09:18.440 I would have been a total deadbeat, degenerate if I 2:09:18.440 --> 2:09:21.600 didn't have football and somebody pushing me. Not because my parents, 2:09:21.640 --> 2:09:23.120 my parents, I mean, I grew up in I was 2:09:23.200 --> 2:09:27.960 very fortunate, stable home, right parents poured into me. Mom 2:09:28.000 --> 2:09:31.520 prayed a lot because she had a dumb ass son. 2:09:31.640 --> 2:09:34.480 And you know that's what I love doing now, man, 2:09:34.640 --> 2:09:36.040 and I've been fortunate to do it. I mean, look, 2:09:36.080 --> 2:09:40.080 We've been around for twenty four years, almost right, twenty 2:09:40.120 --> 2:09:43.320 three years, and we work with about seventy five hundred 2:09:43.360 --> 2:09:46.600 kids annually. They come through the camp and everything from 2:09:46.640 --> 2:09:49.440 youth hunts to timber framing Camp teach how kids how 2:09:49.440 --> 2:09:52.680 to turn timbers into you know, usable parts in a 2:09:52.720 --> 2:09:55.400 frame to build a home, or build a shed or 2:09:55.440 --> 2:09:59.160 a covered bridge or a treehouse, all kinds of different things. 2:09:59.560 --> 2:10:02.160 Amount of love that so you know the shootout is 2:10:02.200 --> 2:10:04.160 what I mean. We raise all our money. We don't 2:10:04.160 --> 2:10:06.640 get support from the federal government. We can't get any 2:10:06.640 --> 2:10:08.800 of this. And as you know, I know you've been 2:10:08.800 --> 2:10:10.680 to the shootout. Will be our twentieth year. 2:10:10.920 --> 2:10:11.360 Jesus. 2:10:11.480 --> 2:10:14.320 We got t far a hell of a country music 2:10:14.400 --> 2:10:18.600 artist coming in to celebrate. When is it September seventeenth, Man, 2:10:18.640 --> 2:10:21.400 it's gonna be awesome. It's a Tuesday. Always on a Tuesday. 2:10:21.680 --> 2:10:23.560 I'm trying to get Bill. We'll try to get Bill 2:10:23.600 --> 2:10:25.320 a show up for the first time because he's not working. 2:10:25.640 --> 2:10:28.480 He's got nothing to do. Do your job more like 2:10:28.640 --> 2:10:29.280 need a job? 2:10:30.040 --> 2:10:30.480 Got him? 2:10:31.640 --> 2:10:31.720 No. 2:10:32.120 --> 2:10:34.880 But I can say I can first hand remembered like 2:10:35.840 --> 2:10:39.680 Matt light stud football player, but always was making a 2:10:39.760 --> 2:10:43.240 huge impact with his foundation, the Matt Light Foundation. I mean, 2:10:43.280 --> 2:10:45.800 he did it for as long as I could remember. 2:10:45.960 --> 2:10:48.200 You always knew about the shootout. You always knew Matt 2:10:48.240 --> 2:10:50.400 was doing something for his foundation. He's raised a lot 2:10:50.400 --> 2:10:54.200 of money to help a lot of people, and I'm 2:10:54.280 --> 2:10:57.920 super happy for you. Everyone. Go check out the Matt 2:10:57.960 --> 2:11:02.880 Light Foundation on all social platforms, Matt Light, Matt Lightfoundation 2:11:02.960 --> 2:11:04.160 dot com. 2:11:03.680 --> 2:11:07.080 Matt Light seventy two dot com and uh yeah, man, 2:11:07.360 --> 2:11:09.040 you know you want to get involved or want to 2:11:09.040 --> 2:11:11.880 do something, check out one of our events. All the 2:11:11.880 --> 2:11:14.200 information is on there, plus the programming. Man's that's the 2:11:14.200 --> 2:11:14.960 most important part. 2:11:15.040 --> 2:11:15.240 Yeah. 2:11:15.440 --> 2:11:18.360 We got great kids, we got great staff, and we're growing. Man. 2:11:18.440 --> 2:11:20.240 We're gonna open up a trade school before too long. 2:11:20.320 --> 2:11:21.000 Man. Awesome. 2:11:21.480 --> 2:11:22.880 I think that's a big deal. I think it's what 2:11:22.960 --> 2:11:24.560 we need. We need kids that are willing to put 2:11:24.560 --> 2:11:26.320 into work. And by the way, if you're in a 2:11:26.360 --> 2:11:29.640 trade today, you can make bank and you can work 2:11:29.640 --> 2:11:31.200 for yourself if you wanted to. Yeah, you know what 2:11:31.240 --> 2:11:33.160 I'm saying, and we need that. We got to rebuild 2:11:33.160 --> 2:11:36.480 this country. You know, my last little thing here. We 2:11:36.600 --> 2:11:38.600 used to do great things in this country, man. We 2:11:38.680 --> 2:11:41.720 used to build great things. Now it's all I Kia, 2:11:41.760 --> 2:11:44.440 it's all cheap. We used to have public private partnerships. 2:11:44.800 --> 2:11:47.879 Look at the real leaders, the people that built this country. 2:11:48.600 --> 2:11:50.720 We took pride in what we have. What's the last 2:11:50.720 --> 2:11:53.000 thing that was built in La or any major city 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:55.560 in this country that you can look at and say, man, 2:11:55.640 --> 2:11:58.400 that's a that's a work of art. Go to Philadelphia, 2:11:59.040 --> 2:12:01.240 go look at some of the the architectural stuff. Look 2:12:01.240 --> 2:12:04.520 at New York City, but it's all old. We have 2:12:04.600 --> 2:12:06.440 to take pride in what we do again. Man, we 2:12:06.480 --> 2:12:09.600 got to raise people that respect this country and what 2:12:09.680 --> 2:12:12.040 it represents. You don't have to like every aspect of it. 2:12:12.040 --> 2:12:14.080 You have to like everybody that's leading it. But we 2:12:14.120 --> 2:12:15.920 have to be able to look at each other and 2:12:15.960 --> 2:12:19.040 have enough common ground and respect to not get caught 2:12:19.120 --> 2:12:22.400 up in all this bs because it's just stupid, and 2:12:22.480 --> 2:12:24.360 just go out there and work hard to be the 2:12:24.400 --> 2:12:26.280 best at what we do, no different than what we 2:12:26.320 --> 2:12:27.960 did on the field. We want to be the best 2:12:28.600 --> 2:12:29.960 and we can do that as a country. And we 2:12:30.040 --> 2:12:32.240 got to get young people to understand that it's not 2:12:32.360 --> 2:12:35.600 just going to happen and nobody owes you anything, and 2:12:35.680 --> 2:12:39.360 so buckle up, get ready to go get it. And 2:12:39.400 --> 2:12:41.000 by the way, when you earn it, it's a hell 2:12:41.000 --> 2:12:43.960 of a lot sweeter lot sweeter. Oh yeah, man, so 2:12:44.000 --> 2:12:44.520 I want to go. 2:12:45.320 --> 2:12:46.560 Can I vote for you right now? 2:12:47.080 --> 2:12:49.440 Hey, you just come work with our kids, man, because 2:12:49.440 --> 2:12:50.680 that's all we got to do. If you want to 2:12:50.680 --> 2:12:53.080 make a change, work with young people. And here's an 2:12:53.240 --> 2:12:56.040 last thing I say. You can change the narrative today. 2:12:56.080 --> 2:12:59.800 It's taking people a long time to instill this terrible 2:12:59.800 --> 2:13:02.120 world ethic. Yeah, and to break down the fiber of 2:13:02.160 --> 2:13:04.120 who we are as a country, because you know what 2:13:04.160 --> 2:13:06.800 it gives other people power. Well, you can undo that 2:13:06.880 --> 2:13:09.320 overnight just by holding kids accountable. I've seen it in 2:13:09.360 --> 2:13:10.000 the work we do. 2:13:10.200 --> 2:13:10.640 Yeah. 2:13:10.680 --> 2:13:13.360 And uh, man, we're so fortunate we have awesome kids 2:13:13.360 --> 2:13:13.800 we work with. 2:13:13.840 --> 2:13:14.000 Man. 2:13:14.000 --> 2:13:15.960 I give a shout out to them and our whole staff. 2:13:15.960 --> 2:13:18.280 Man there, it's a blessing to work with a man. 2:13:18.320 --> 2:13:20.320 We love it. I gave a shout out to you. 2:13:20.360 --> 2:13:22.160 And that was an unbelievable episode. 2:13:22.480 --> 2:13:24.600 Wow, I loved it, man, Thanks for having me, Thanks 2:13:24.600 --> 2:13:26.960 for coming, and we survived last night. And I would 2:13:26.960 --> 2:13:29.080 say you were flipping unbelievable. 2:13:29.080 --> 2:13:29.200 Man. 2:13:29.200 --> 2:13:31.200 I was nervous for you. Guys, and you guys crushed it, 2:13:31.240 --> 2:13:33.120 So I hope everybody watches that. 2:13:33.160 --> 2:13:36.240 Man, it was fun. It was fun the roast check 2:13:36.280 --> 2:13:40.960 it out. Thanks Matt for coming in, Bubbs. Yeah, buddy man, 2:13:42.400 --> 2:13:45.840 Matt light funny, funny guy. I told you he'd be great. 2:13:46.360 --> 2:13:50.000 The amount of money and time and energy he spends 2:13:50.440 --> 2:13:51.600 just from pranking people. 2:13:52.320 --> 2:13:55.880 Incredible dudes like all three and practical jokers rolled into one. 2:13:56.280 --> 2:13:58.360 I remember my rookie year. I didn't get I forgot. 2:13:58.400 --> 2:14:01.320 It just popped in my head. He was the first 2:14:01.320 --> 2:14:04.080 one to have segways. He had like eight of them 2:14:04.080 --> 2:14:08.240 at his house. Yes, no way like he had. He 2:14:08.320 --> 2:14:10.000 had the coolest toys always. 2:14:10.440 --> 2:14:11.120 That's awesome. 2:14:11.680 --> 2:14:15.440 He was so fun and he also I also remember 2:14:15.440 --> 2:14:18.520 once asking him on the plane because Matt's a very 2:14:18.560 --> 2:14:22.320 smart guy. Oh yeah, you know, both of his parents educated, 2:14:22.360 --> 2:14:25.200 you know what I mean, got you know, he's smart. Yeah. 2:14:25.760 --> 2:14:27.800 And I was sitting there and I was just I 2:14:27.840 --> 2:14:29.560 was in like something weird, and he used to sit 2:14:29.680 --> 2:14:31.960 like write in front of me. I go, Bro, isn't 2:14:31.960 --> 2:14:37.800 it crazy? We're in like a forty ton ten can 2:14:38.840 --> 2:14:44.320 thirty thousand feet above air? He goes, No, Bro. Aeronautical 2:14:44.360 --> 2:14:47.320 engineering so easy to actually know that birds and he 2:14:47.320 --> 2:14:49.880 walks away or something. He like fully smug me off. 2:14:50.920 --> 2:14:54.360 Have you never heard of birds? Yeah, he's like, no, 2:14:54.400 --> 2:14:57.280 it's very easy actually to understand why we're in the air. 2:14:57.680 --> 2:14:58.880 I shot three this morning. 2:15:00.600 --> 2:15:02.160 Bit. I wonder if he stole anything. 2:15:02.360 --> 2:15:03.480 I love I love I love it. 2:15:03.720 --> 2:15:06.320 I love how he was like, oh, I've caught someone 2:15:06.400 --> 2:15:08.600 stealing we had these like security cameras whatever, And then 2:15:08.640 --> 2:15:11.560 he spent the next whole episode talking about all the 2:15:11.640 --> 2:15:12.720 ship stolen. 2:15:12.920 --> 2:15:14.280 I was gonna say, if we ever need a heist, 2:15:14.320 --> 2:15:17.440 I'm hiring him and his babysitter and we're taking down 2:15:17.480 --> 2:15:19.200 We're oceans and anything. 2:15:19.360 --> 2:15:22.720 We are oceaning up with Matt Light, and Matt Light 2:15:22.760 --> 2:15:25.520 would be he'd actually he'd be a really good heist guy. 2:15:25.800 --> 2:15:31.080 And then Ernie's running the show. That's a post gust segment. 2:15:31.920 --> 2:15:32.120 RV. 2:15:32.320 --> 2:15:35.800 You gotta of the NFL. Who's who's your eleven? 2:15:35.960 --> 2:15:38.080 Yeah, Light's definitely. 2:15:37.760 --> 2:15:39.360 Made maybe a lot of Patriots. I bet. 2:15:42.520 --> 2:15:42.960 This stuff. 2:15:44.840 --> 2:15:48.280 What the the narratives are out there? Oh my goodness, 2:15:48.560 --> 2:15:51.560 Well it's time to hit the old hotline. Remember that 2:15:51.680 --> 2:15:55.160 number is four two four two nine one two two 2:15:55.240 --> 2:16:00.640 nine zero you're wandering and one of you guys play 2:16:00.800 --> 2:16:05.880 that bass guitar. How old is that kid? How old 2:16:05.920 --> 2:16:06.440 is this kid? 2:16:06.840 --> 2:16:10.480 I'm not sure he might be he might be five. 2:16:10.560 --> 2:16:11.760 I'm not one hundred percent sure. 2:16:11.760 --> 2:16:12.360 There's no way. 2:16:12.400 --> 2:16:14.120 He's just not around kids. 2:16:14.120 --> 2:16:16.120 That kid is. That kid's probably like eight. Yeah. 2:16:16.280 --> 2:16:18.200 Well, we do get a call sometimes from this one 2:16:18.200 --> 2:16:22.760 guy that is five guy kid, and it sounds very similar. 2:16:22.880 --> 2:16:24.720 He's listed his age in the calls a couple of times. 2:16:25.240 --> 2:16:27.880 I just couldn't understand the last Are we making clean 2:16:27.960 --> 2:16:30.640 versions on this thing? Hey, it's not our fault. Parents. 2:16:30.720 --> 2:16:31.720 Fault on parents. 2:16:31.800 --> 2:16:34.560 Explicit parental advisory marked in the show. 2:16:34.879 --> 2:16:38.400 Oh my gosh, but stop dodgs in the question can 2:16:38.400 --> 2:16:40.800 you slap the BASSA no bass? 2:16:40.800 --> 2:16:44.720 My uncle. My uncle died and he, uh, he was 2:16:44.720 --> 2:16:47.160 a He was a pretty good musician and he left 2:16:47.160 --> 2:16:49.680 those and I don't know, I just haven't found a 2:16:49.680 --> 2:16:53.160 place to them. They look cool. You guys actually put 2:16:53.240 --> 2:16:53.680 him up there. 2:16:53.959 --> 2:16:55.400 Yeah, I can play a little bass. 2:16:55.440 --> 2:16:58.720 Not that slap of the bass is good. Question? Twelve 2:16:58.760 --> 2:17:02.199 year old or an eight year old if we're lucky. 2:17:02.560 --> 2:17:07.760 They have The Going Duels Big Podcast Season one names 2:17:07.800 --> 2:17:11.039 Billy I'm down here in South Florida. I got a 2:17:11.080 --> 2:17:15.600 recommendation for maybe doing something different with the games with names. 2:17:15.640 --> 2:17:18.720 Maybe doing an action sport, you know, maybe one of 2:17:18.760 --> 2:17:24.119 those type masters Kelly Slater winning it All surfing title, 2:17:24.240 --> 2:17:28.640 Surfing Champion eleven times. Maybe do one of those iCal 2:17:28.879 --> 2:17:34.120 big waves competitions, maybe the nine hundred pulled by Tony 2:17:34.160 --> 2:17:37.000 Hawk in the X Games, or maybe one of those 2:17:37.120 --> 2:17:41.920 legendary performances by the fline Tomato, Sean White. I think 2:17:41.959 --> 2:17:44.680 that would be kind of cool. Get a different type 2:17:44.720 --> 2:17:48.480 of sport. Show some love to those guys with the 2:17:48.560 --> 2:17:53.840 great balance and the balls of steel. Appreciate taking my call. 2:17:54.360 --> 2:17:57.760 Good luck with the rest of the season. Love the show. 2:17:58.920 --> 2:18:02.600 Yes, we definitely need to. I mean everything. He I 2:18:02.640 --> 2:18:04.480 remember all those. I grew up in the Bay Area, 2:18:04.560 --> 2:18:07.600 so it was always around like the skate surf community. 2:18:07.800 --> 2:18:09.720 I was a jock that hung out with like the surfer. 2:18:09.879 --> 2:18:12.600 I was pretty much Johnny Utah and Point Break. It 2:18:12.680 --> 2:18:15.720 wasn't a surfer give me two yeah, but I can 2:18:15.800 --> 2:18:17.960 hang out with them. I hung out them, hung out 2:18:17.959 --> 2:18:20.760 the skate park, and I remember when Tony Hawk pulled 2:18:20.760 --> 2:18:24.800 that nine hundred in uh San Francisco something like that. 2:18:24.840 --> 2:18:27.920 And then also Travis Pastrana did a backflip into the 2:18:28.000 --> 2:18:31.200 bay and got fined Hella money because he dropped the 2:18:31.240 --> 2:18:34.280 dirt bike in there. That would be sick. I mean, 2:18:34.280 --> 2:18:37.480 there's we We are definitely gonna get up in that business. 2:18:37.560 --> 2:18:41.120 John John Florence, me and him communicated a bunch over 2:18:41.200 --> 2:18:43.760 a CLS when he tour his a cl Shout out 2:18:43.800 --> 2:18:46.720 John John. Love watching his videos and his documentaries. The 2:18:46.720 --> 2:18:50.480 Stude's so talented, but he's insane them surfboard. But yeah, 2:18:50.480 --> 2:18:53.440 we gotta definitely get We got to get the surf 2:18:53.480 --> 2:18:55.800 community or the extreme community in there. 2:18:55.959 --> 2:18:58.920 Got to got to maybe Mark cut Back Davis or 2:18:59.160 --> 2:19:01.000 Bob Jungle, Dea Girard, you know those. 2:19:00.879 --> 2:19:04.640 Guys, Bubba Stewart Legends, Bubba Stewart. 2:19:04.720 --> 2:19:07.360 This is not Yeah, we've been Honestly, the nine hundred 2:19:07.360 --> 2:19:08.880 has been in our like top ten. 2:19:09.680 --> 2:19:11.480 Tony with Tony Hawk incredible. 2:19:11.560 --> 2:19:13.600 We're flirting with Sean White. I think there's scheduling stuff. 2:19:13.600 --> 2:19:13.920 Would love. 2:19:14.840 --> 2:19:16.520 We've ben talk a lot about Kelly Slaton. We're not 2:19:16.520 --> 2:19:20.160 gonna say why, but yeah, one this would be really fun. 2:19:20.200 --> 2:19:23.320 We've been ranking Coole as bald guys. That's where Kelly 2:19:23.400 --> 2:19:24.680 keeps coming up. He's number one. 2:19:25.560 --> 2:19:26.760 Bruce Willis is pretty up there. 2:19:26.760 --> 2:19:27.440 He's up there too. 2:19:27.480 --> 2:19:33.000 We love you, Bruce. Maybe it's a chopper. Who's that? 2:19:33.000 --> 2:19:38.000 It says, dead baby? What a game and thanks again 2:19:38.120 --> 2:19:42.400 to Matt. That was a fun episode. That's been another 2:19:42.480 --> 2:19:46.960 episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 2:19:47.640 --> 2:19:50.600 wherever you listen to your podcast, comment a game you 2:19:50.600 --> 2:19:55.440 want us to do and remember great and review remember 2:19:55.520 --> 2:19:58.760 fall of Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, x TikTok 2:19:58.959 --> 2:20:04.920 and snapchat. Leave a message on the hotline bling at 2:20:04.959 --> 2:20:07.880 four two four two nine one two two nine zero. 2:20:08.360 --> 2:20:12.119 We will see you guys next week. 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