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Speaker 1: the stratedere of normalcy. Welcome to another week of one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. That is a Monday, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: with you as always, and we are motoring in two

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Speaker 1: more nice weather. We're also motoring into phase three of

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Phase three today, and there will be I

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Speaker 1: be here, right, and it's not man, is it mandatory.

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Speaker 1: It's not mandatory. It's all voluntary, which is why Aaron

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Speaker 1: Just oh my gosh, it's when OTA's hit You feel like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: of the weekend, Steve, how often did the phrase salmon

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Speaker 1: to see it? Um hit a little farmer's market did

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Speaker 1: hollering at you constantly. You're trying to concentrate it better though,

423
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, did you notice that we got

424
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Speaker 1: the full breath of what what a difference a fan

425
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: presence makes at any sporting Yes, it really was. It

426
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: was almost I was like, oh gosh, look there are

427
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: people there. You can feel it like it's just it

428
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: is palpable. The place was jam packed and the people

429
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: were right there. Yeah, and maybe you don't see it

430
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: as much in golf because as you were saying, it's

431
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: got to be a mental calming and everybody gets quiet

432
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: from Machetti. You know, frame of mind that you have

433
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: to have in golf, But you watch any other sport

434
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: you know that's active and on the field of play,

435
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: that crowd juices up time. Yesterday is South Carolina at

436
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: Keiwa Island. I've I don't know that I've seen that

437
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: like that. Ever you've seen security, I've seen I have

438
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: seen videos of Arnold Palmer at the Open Championship back

439
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: in the sixties, busting through the wall people like that.

440
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: But Michael, they were trying to get through to play

441
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: the shot, and the people had already moved up the

442
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: fairway so they could get a look at it. And

443
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: he had to get through the crowds. And he was

444
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: up there and he walked up. You know, he wasn't

445
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: hurry and he was trying to stay cool. He walked up,

446
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: got to his and there was a big, you know,

447
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: big circle. He walked up, marked his ball, fixed his

448
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: diving in the green, which is where the ball landed

449
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: is a little dent, and he fixed that and made

450
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: it nice, walked back and looked at his putt, walked

451
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: around and brooks Kepka is still trying to make it

452
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Speaker 1: up there and he's coming off knee surgery. He wasn't

453
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Speaker 1: happy about it. Kepka is still trying to get through

454
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Speaker 1: the crowd. He can't even get to the green. So

455
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: it was it was a scene like I have, oh

456
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: my gosh. And on the hot you see the cop

457
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: almost take the want to make her out. He's looking

458
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: around walking he walks right into the watermaker anyway, so

459
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: you the crowd was unbelievable, particularly the fact that we

460
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, spent fifteen months in COVID and now there

461
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: hop it's over in South Carolina. Yeah, nobody's nobody's masked.

462
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Nobody was masked up. And I don't know what. I

463
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: have no idea what the protocols were, if any, whether

464
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: that they had to prove vaccination before they got in

465
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But you can see nobody's masked up.

466
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: It was. It was a wild scene. And that guy

467
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: is he's the older he's fifty years and eleven months

468
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: and a couple of days old when he did that.

469
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Speaker 1: Almost a fifty one funny story about the trophy, So

470
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Speaker 1: Colin Morikawa, I think who won it last year. He's

471
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: posing with the trophy, which I guess is a tradition

472
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: right before you give it away to the new winner

473
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: after enjoying your year as PG champion. And I'm looking

474
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Speaker 1: at the photo and somebody tweeted this on social media,

475
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna take credit for it. But they're like,

476
00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: read the emblem. So the emblem of you know, p GA,

477
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: Professional Golfers Association. Yeah, I try to get out. I

478
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: couldn't resoom it in what what was it say? Professional

479
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: is spelled with two f's and two s's. Now it

480
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: does have two s's, but professional does not have two f's.

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00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: I don't know how they missed that. Wait, we live

482
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: in a texting society, man, that's it. Man. If it

483
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: looks it's on an emblem on the trophy podium and

484
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: it's big, like PGA is the biggest letters in the

485
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: middle of the emblem, but then you know it's around

486
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: the edge Professional Golfers Association whatever, professional, pro o f F.

487
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: That's kind of rough. Do they have spelling tests in

488
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: school anymore? Um No, I don't think why you have

489
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Speaker 1: spell check check it? Man? Just right, I was you know,

490
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: I had to do the weekly paper here of many

491
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: moons ago, when you know, with Bill's Digest and creating

492
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: a perfect newspaper with no errors is not easy. So

493
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: I can understand where they're coming from. But they had

494
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: three words they had to worry about. Professional Golfers Association.

495
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: That's pretty rough. I was like, wow, I mean it's

496
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: not telling you wait wait wait wait, wouldn't they like

497
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: use the same one they used the year before? Oh? God,

498
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: I hope not, because in that case, everybody missed it

499
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: over the last year. PG say, hey, keep on, hang

500
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: on to that. We'll use that next year. Yeah, maybe

501
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: we'll have anybody off. If it's that way, next year,

502
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: we'll know, we'll know they just kept it there. And

503
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is get a screwdriver and flick

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Speaker 1: the f off. And so it's let me just I'm

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00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: telling you p R O F F. Oh you're gonna

506
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: go look for the trophy. Year before I was double check.

507
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Hey we had the salmon our incident. I'm checking you.

508
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: So I checked it. It is Oh my god. Uh

509
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: speaking of Phil Mickelson. Is Tim Michelson his caddy not him? Okay,

510
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: well you were close. Yeah. Uh. Speaking of Phil Mickelson,

511
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: As we said, the guy is an easy dude to

512
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: root for, and so it kind of sparked this conversation

513
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: where we said, well, wait a second, there's got everybody's

514
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: got to have an athlete that they rooted for the hardest,

515
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: and it may not even be your favorite athlete. Everybody

516
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: has their favorite athletes. They're you know, they're athletic idols

517
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: growing up. Um that you're always rooted for. Um. Mine

518
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: was Walter Payton in football. I mean, I love that guy,

519
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: just just his competitive edge and guy never ran out

520
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: of bounds. Um, always fought for the extra yards. Anyway,

521
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: you're big Walter Payton. I was a huge Walter Payton fan. Um,

522
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: he was my favorite player as a kid in football.

523
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean my baseball guys and my basketball guys. But whatever.

524
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: And so you have your favorite players and you always

525
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: root for them. But then there's guys that they catch

526
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: your eye. Maybe they're an underdog, maybe they are not

527
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: at the elite level of the pros in terms of

528
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: physical gifts, but they still get it done somehow. Those guys,

529
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: for me, are the easiest to root for because they're

530
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: doing more with less, you know what I mean. And

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00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: so those are the guys that I would inevitably gravitate too.

532
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: I remember the Knicks. They had John Starks in the nineties.

533
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: He was on the Patrick Ewing teams. That guy came

534
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: out of nowhere undrafted, went to like a podunk college.

535
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: He went the D League too, didn't he for a minute?

536
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: He was like he was in the minor leagues kicking

537
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: around and he went on to have a great career

538
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: with the Knicks. Was he still a somewhat limited player, Yeah,

539
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: but he got better. He worked to make himself better

540
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: and you know, he was part of an Eastern Conference

541
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: championship team that went to the finals. So's he was.

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00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: He was a crowd favorite in New York because of

543
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: the path that he took. Everybody that was in New

544
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: York rooted for John. I would say he was kind

545
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: of an iconic guy, even though he wasn't really a

546
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: truly a superstar, but it was firmly rooted in his path,

547
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: in the path that he took to get there. And

548
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: so that's why we want to ask on the Twitter

549
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: poll today with you, which athlete do you root for

550
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: or have rooted for the hardest? Maybe it is Michelson.

551
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of guys that like Lefty

552
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Um, so yeah, I mean, it could

553
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: be a guy like that. Maybe it is a superstar

554
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: athlete who just you love, you'll love the athlete and

555
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just gonna root for them forever, doesn't

556
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: matter what circumstance it is, doesn't matter what team they're on,

557
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: it's I'll root for him. Yeah, it's hard, Yeah, it's

558
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting because for me it's different because as I

559
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: would it would have to be as a kid now

560
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: because I'm I don't know it. They're probably athletes you respect,

561
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: oh now, oh sure, sure, sure, hundreds of them. But

562
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: the thing about it is for me, now, I grew up,

563
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, idolizing those guys, and then you know, I

564
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: had for a lot of them, had a chance to

565
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: meet and get to know some of them, you know,

566
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: after I grew up and became an athlete. So um, yeah,

567
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: that's a it's a hard question for me to answer.

568
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: But I'll give you a story when we come back

569
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: the next next thing. I'll give you a story about

570
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: one of my meetings with one of those guys. I

571
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: eagerly anticipate that. And we want to know from you,

572
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: which athlete do you root for or have rooted for

573
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: the hardest could be some guy in the old days

574
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, that you're rooted for all

575
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: the time, no matter what thick and thin. Might be

576
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: some kind of underdog guy that you just took a

577
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: guy or girl that you took a liking to and

578
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: just said, I'm on board with that person and I'm

579
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: rooting for that person no matter what, just because of

580
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: a B or C eight oh three oh five fifty

581
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: one eighty to eighty five fifty two five fifty to

582
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: get on board. Open line for you there or hit

583
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet at one bills Live.

584
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 1: Which athlete do you root for or have rooted for

585
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: the hardest? And tell us why back in a minute

586
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health,

587
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one bills Live.

588
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you as we are asking

589
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: you today, which athlete do you root for or have

590
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: rooted for the hardest? In the wake of the tsunami

591
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: of support that Phil Nicholson was getting at Kiawa Island

592
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: over the weekend as the fifty year old won the

593
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: US Open or the PGA Championship. Sorry, oldest player to

594
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: do it, Yeah, to win a major Yeah. And I

595
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: was gonna tell you, and the question is who who

596
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: was your root for stuff? I was going to tell

597
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: you a story. So I went to Northwestern University in Chicago,

598
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and I was just twenty one, twenty two year old kid.

599
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: I was a I was a red shirt guy. So

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00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: I came out of for my fifth year in college

601
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: and every so often, this was before the Bears built

602
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: their new facility out north of Chicago, and I was

603
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: working out as as college athlete, lifting and stuff, and

604
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I went up in our locker room. Would it was

605
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: up elevate, It was upstairs. You come down these wide

606
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: stairs down into a little foyer and then you know

607
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: that was how he got there. So it was a

608
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: pouring rainy afternoon, pouring rain. It was late in the year.

609
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: It was after the football season of the Bills, I

610
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: mean the football season of the Wildcats. The Northwestern team

611
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: was done. So I'm working out coming down and this

612
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: pouring rain outside, and I come down and we did.

613
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it, but once in a while, when

614
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: it was the weather was just dried or just bad

615
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: enough at the wrong time, the Chicago Bears would come

616
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: to Evanston to practice on the turf. It's it's a hike,

617
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: especially in traffics in Chicago. No, no, it's not an hour.

618
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: It's got to be thirty minutes. Though. Okay, so the

619
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Bears are gonna practice on our field. I had no idea,

620
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just it was the first time it

621
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: had happened since I've been there. So I'm walking down

622
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: and you look and I come down, and you know how,

623
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: you see somebody famous and it's a little bit out

624
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: of context and you're like, oh, I should do that. Wait, wait,

625
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: who is I know that? Right? It wasn't though, it

626
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: was not like that. I walked down. I walked down

627
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: and there standing inside the door of the four yer

628
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: is he's got grace wet pants on, kangaroo cleave, black Bears,

629
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: jersey with shoulder pads, thirty four headband, and he's holding

630
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: his helmet under his arm. It's like an act. It's

631
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: like a bobble head. It's Walter Payton. That's awesome. And

632
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: this was like nineteen. This was like eighty forty. This

633
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Speaker 1: was like he was already a Hall of Famer, right,

634
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: he was, like I think he already passed Jim Brown

635
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: and eighty four. He was Yes, he was unbelievable. I

636
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: mean it was just like who. So I'm like, I

637
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: kind you had that quick and he's talking, you know,

638
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: he's talking to Ron Rivera, the head coach of the

639
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Washington football team these days. He's a linebacker for him.

640
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: So I walked down. There's those two guys standing there,

641
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: and you do that quick conversations like should I can

642
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I say something? Is this? You know? Is this all right?

643
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: If I go and say, Hi, that's this guy or

644
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, and I decide, you know what he's you

645
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: got to you you may never get it right. And

646
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: and now, knowing now what I know now, it was

647
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: the perfect time to go up and say it because

648
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: he's he's practice, you know, and he's just it's an

649
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: unusual thing, and nobody's around. It's just him and a

650
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: buddy and and me. And I think back Brownie, I

651
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: looked twelve tops. I looked like a pre pubescent little

652
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: brother coaches kid walking up to this guy. Probably could

653
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: have asked him for an autograph. So I will. I'm like,

654
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I pull myself. I'm like, yeah, okay,

655
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I walk up and I go, hey, yuh,

656
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: and I kind of you know, I did you do

657
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: the mister pay No? No, yes, I said, hey, mister Payton,

658
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I just want to say hello and say how much

659
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: I admire you in the way you play the game.

660
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm a big fan. I didn't

661
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: want to bother you. I just want to say hello

662
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: and tell you how much of a fan I am

663
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: and how much I appreciate you. And I actually said

664
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of a you know night. My communication skills were

665
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: coherent and college grad right, so tripping over your words

666
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: or anything, right. So he goes, hey, thanks, that's awesome man.

667
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: How you doing? I go good, and he goes, what

668
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: are you doing? I said, well, I'm my Name's I

669
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: told him my name, and I'm play here at Northwestern.

670
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm a kick return and that kind and I'm just

671
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: working out, you know. And so he goes, that's awesome man.

672
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: And I and I was trying to think of something,

673
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, off the cuff to talk about it, just

674
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: like to change the subject, kind of like have a

675
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: real conversation. And I said, you know, mister pett I said,

676
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: you're the only guy that wears shoes like that with

677
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: the kangaroos on. Do you like those? Are they cool?

678
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Or do you you know what's the deal with those?

679
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: And he goes hey, goes hey, because I love these shoes.

680
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: They're the best shoes you'll ever put on. He goes

681
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: in bad in fact, he goes, what size do you wear? Oh?

682
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: No way? And I said I were size nine. He

683
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: goes oh, he goes a few were my size. I

684
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: could scoot you a pair. I looked down. His hands

685
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: were the size of suitcases. Yeah. His feet were like

686
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: four inches long. I mean he had the smallest feet.

687
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: I looked down. I was like, oh my gosh, he's

688
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: not a nine. No, he's like a six. No way. Yeah,

689
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: I looked down at his feet. His feet were like

690
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: a doll's feet, but his hands were the size of

691
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: suit I'm like, oh yeah. And I was like, oh,

692
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: well really, I never said well, that's I said, wow,

693
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: that's cool. That's kind of neat. And I said well

694
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh that's cool. I'm that's great,

695
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: And I just want to say hello. I don't want

696
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to bother I know you guys got practiced all. He goes, hey, man,

697
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: it's great neating you an awesome man trade and of

698
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: course you know, I leave and he doesn't give me

699
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: a second. He doesn't know me from Adam, right, So

700
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't think his feet were small, Steve, they were,

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: they were really small. I'm I'm, well, this is the internet.

702
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: You can't believe the internet. I just looked it up.

703
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: What was Walter Payton's shoe size? Because that shocked to say.

704
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: It says eleven and a half. No, no, okay, no,

705
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: his feet were smaller than mine. Anyway, I could be wrong,

706
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, hey, you're I'm justusting your eyeballs. I'm

707
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: old man, and I've and I'm sam in arm in

708
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: my past. So anyway, so the next listen to this.

709
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: This is true story. Now my I got drafted by

710
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: the Oilers. We played the Bears in nineteen eighty five,

711
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: and I I was out of the game. I didn't

712
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I didn't play in the game. I was injured, I think. Anyway,

713
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't cross paths with him. Nothing the next time, sorry,

714
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: the next time I actually saw him and stood next

715
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: to him. This is unbelievable. Pro Bowl. He had retired

716
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: in eighty eight seven, he played eight, he played eighty eight. No, Yes,

717
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: and it was the eighty nine because he lost. They

718
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: lost to Washington. Well it was the eighty seven season,

719
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: but it was the eighty eight playoffs. I think that's

720
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking of. They lost to Washington and post

721
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: it was my first playoff. First Pro Bowl, nineteen eighty seven,

722
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: eighty eight Pro Bowl after the strike season. The next

723
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: time I see him, he's ceremonially flipping the coin at

724
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, and I'm a team captain. Oh are

725
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: you hoping he remembers here? No, he didn't. I wasn't

726
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna come up there, guys, Hey, Walt, he just remember whenever. Yeah,

727
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, but I did. I will say this,

728
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: and I think about this a lot. I learned how

729
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: to He gave me an example. I mean it's Walter Payton. Yeah,

730
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: he gave me an example how to treat somebody when

731
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: they can't. I mean he couldn't. I couldn't do anything

732
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: for him, and he just did it out of favor.

733
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: He could have said, Okay, cool, get lost, and I

734
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: would have said, oh, I guess that's the way you

735
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: do it. But he didn't. He could not have been nicer.

736
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera same thing that he was in the conversation

737
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: and everything it was couldn't have been nicer. I was like,

738
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, if he could treat me you like that,

739
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: the least I could do is be nicer. And I

740
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: and I don't bat a thousand on that because everybody

741
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: has bad moment. I'm sure I've yeah, I'm sure I've

742
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: snubbed somebody or done something stupid to somebody in my history.

743
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: But he certainly didn't for me. Yeah, and that's my

744
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: that's you said, you big Walter. That's a Walter Payton story.

745
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: That's the only one I've got. I think we watch

746
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: your stories at eight oh three oh five fifty. And

747
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna lead off today with Jay and Hamilton. Jay,

748
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey,

749
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Hey doing guys. Steve, What a pleasure to talk to

750
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: you and YouTube Brownie, I love you too many. Thanks.

751
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 1: Um quit. So, the what I recall I was from

752
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: forty eight now, and but I vividly remember that it

753
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: was a ninety one US Open watching Jimmy Connors, and

754
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: I will never forget um So, I love watching the

755
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: US Open in September late August nighttime tennis is really

756
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: nothing quite like it in Sport, and the crowd in

757
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: New York just makes everything electric, right, yeah, And just

758
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: I vividly remember it. So I've been seventeen at the time,

759
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: making sure that I was in the house watching Jimmy

760
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: Connors go on that run and with the with the

761
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: neon colors and that really kind of oversized racket. And

762
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: I think at the time he was only thirty four,

763
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: thirty five something like that. I know, right, so you

764
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: think back, I'm forty eight now, but I feel great,

765
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: but thirty I wouldn't be playing you as tenant cessor, sure, right,

766
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: And but watching him play it just um, just just um,

767
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: really just enamored with this. I thought, old guy, right,

768
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: double my age. I'm seventeen, thirty thirty five, and I

769
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: just remember rooting for him so badly to win, like

770
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: every stroke, every pump of the fist, every war of

771
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: the crowd. I just I will never forget that feeling

772
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: of wanting an underdog to win. And I think that's

773
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: for me. What birth this feeling of just always loving

774
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: the underdog, right, I mean I became a Bills fan,

775
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Steve when you guys were like two and fourteen, Like,

776
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I just love the underdog. I remember watching UM highlights

777
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: of the game and only seeing a submitten of fans

778
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: on the stands and there'd be two guys doing a

779
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: wave and I'm like, yes, I want to be a

780
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: part of that. And you know, I extended to Jimmy Connors.

781
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: So watching that was just amazing. He didn't win, but UM,

782
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: ever since, I'm like, yes, give me the old guy,

783
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: the earl girl, old girl, whatever it is, the person

784
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: that's hobbled, injured, what have you. If the odds are

785
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: stacked against you, I am for you. Yeah, And Jay,

786
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you because I just looked it up.

787
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: He was thirty nine, thirty nine because it was his

788
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: twentieth straight US Open. I think he was one of

789
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: only three players to go to twenty straight US Opens.

790
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: And the match that was electric was the match I

791
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: think it was Jim Harhous, a German player, and that's

792
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: when he had that unbelievable rally where he's literally up

793
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: against the back wall behind the end line trying to

794
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: return these smashes that the guy keeps throwing at him

795
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: and he's just lobbing it back to him three and

796
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: four times, and then he finally hits a winner down

797
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: the line and the place just erupts and he is

798
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: pumping both fists at the same time. It is an

799
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: iconic him in a clip of tennis. Yeah, it is.

800
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: It was a backhand or too. I think his two

801
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: handed backhand was always I think I was a player

802
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: two handed backhand down the line. Yea. Yeah, it was amazing,

803
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: wasn't it. It's stupid. I remember that I was. Yeah,

804
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: I was because I was ten years younger than he

805
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: was and I was in the midst of my professional

806
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: athletic career and he was he I was pulling for

807
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: him too big. I don't know how you don't and

808
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: you know he because it was out of the blue.

809
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen him on a tennis court for

810
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: like ten years, it seemed like. And the only reason

811
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: I know this is because my mom was a big

812
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: tennis fan, so it was it was on a lot

813
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: in my house growing up, and she loved Jimmy Connors.

814
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: But Jimmy Connors was not loved by everybody in the

815
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: tennis community, right, um, Like everybody knows about McEnroe and

816
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: the wisenheimer that he was, but Jimmy Connors was kind

817
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: of that way, also younger in his career, and then

818
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: as he got older he became this beloved veteran on

819
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: the tour. And when he did that, I mean he

820
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: went all the way in the semifinals before he lost

821
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: to Jim Currier, who ended up winning the whole thing

822
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: that year. He was like beloved because he was gritty

823
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: thirty nine and you're gritty. And again I'm telling you, Steve,

824
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: it's that underdog thing. People love rooting for the underdog,

825
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: and at age thirty nine, the guy had no business

826
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: being in the quarterfinals. Yeah, I think it touches. It

827
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: does strike a chord with most people because most of us,

828
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, we're not professional athletes, and you always tell yourself,

829
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts that if you had been

830
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: gifted physically, you could have been. Yeah. And so when

831
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: you see it an amazingly gifted guy out there, or

832
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: amazingly big, huge, strong, fast guy, you think, well, of

833
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: course he's a Proadley, when you see the guy looks

834
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: more like you, Yeah, it's like see or a guy

835
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: that was once great and somehow pulls it together at

836
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: the tail end of his career, like Nicholson did over

837
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: the weekend like Jack Nicholas at the eighty six Masters,

838
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: more like Connors in the ninety one US Open at

839
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: age thirty nine, playing against twenty four year olds. You

840
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: jump on board like it's like a no brainer. It's

841
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: a blast man. Yeah, we gotta take a break. But

842
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: David Brockport, Kevin and Hamburg, Bobby and Lancaster, Hank Tight

843
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: We'll get to you when we come back. Here on

844
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

845
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Which athlete do you root for or have

846
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: rooted for the hardest? Give us a good one at

847
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty or on the tweetcheat

848
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. Before we get to the calls,

849
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: we wanted to bring this to your attention. This is

850
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: becoming a habit, Steve. Professional athletes attending other professional athletes

851
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: sporting events. We saw David Baktri chugging a beer you

852
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: know the Packers tackle at the Milwaukee Bucks game, just

853
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: freaking opening his throat and sucking it down in three seconds.

854
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: We saw a Taylor Lawan of the Tennessee Titans, along

855
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: with some of his teammates at a Nashville Predators game,

856
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, got gunning beers and spilling it all over him.

857
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: He spilled more than he drank. And this past weekend,

858
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, who don't even train on Long

859
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Island anymore, at Hofsta University, which is just across the

860
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: parking lot from Nassau Coliseum on Long Island, but for

861
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: some reason, they're about ten twelve New York Jets all

862
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: decked out an Islanders jerseys at the Islanders playoff game,

863
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: and Dan Feeney, the offensive lineman, went nuts. He's standing

864
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: right next to the rookie quarterback Zach Wilson. He chugs

865
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: the beer and cracks the can on his temple as

866
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: he's waving his giant mullet around. He is fired up.

867
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: This was right after the Islanders, I think, scored their

868
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: second goal in the game of their four one win

869
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: to even the series at two two. Kind of need.

870
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: The Island had Islander jerseys on all their own, with

871
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: their own numbers on, the players numbers on it, so

872
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: they were somebody helped somebody planning that one out. I

873
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: don't know whether that was you're gonna give the quarterback

874
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: goes for that or whatever. And you'll notice that the

875
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: Jets players are sitting in regular general admission seats. They

876
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: are not in a box somewhere because the boxes at

877
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: the coliseum are literally up in the rafters. It was

878
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: not an arena that was configured in at a time

879
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: when luxury boxes were a thing in the NHL, so

880
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: they added them later. And you want to talk about

881
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: a cram job. Yeah, Uh, it's it's tight up there.

882
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: Well us face its sitting on the glasses even better anyway,

883
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: So cramming like twelve linemen in there, that was just

884
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: not going to happen. Put him down in the regular seats.

885
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: So nice to see him supporting their fellow local team. Um,

886
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, man, that blue is popping there the mullet.

887
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: Is that making a comeback? It might be Gardner minshe's

888
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: doing it down in Jacksonville. Well, yeah, he's a different

889
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Dan Feeney going nuts at the Islanders game the other day,

890
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: eighth three, five fifty. Back to the phones and to

891
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: Dave in Brockport, Dave, what do you have for is

892
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's life? I Christmas Steve um Roberto comment, Okay,

893
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and uh, what was it that

894
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: made your root for him? Well, the way he held

895
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: the bad way batted and way field and he was

896
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: he was just he was just great. Yeah. Yeah. And

897
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: when I was when I was older, it was Don

898
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Beebe and um, Derek Jeter. What was it about Beebs?

899
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: What was the appeal? Oh? He could run and catch? Boy,

900
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: could he run and catch? And uh, he was just awesome.

901
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Are you a baseball guy? You like Jeter as well? Yeah?

902
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: So he likes Dave's. Dave's a big follower of the

903
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: great ones, which is always easy. I mean, when you

904
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: see somebody that is that ridiculously talented, it's easy to

905
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: admire it and then you root for him. Um so yeah,

906
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean Clemente is a five tool player. He could

907
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: do everything. Uh. There's an interesting story behind Clemente's early

908
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: career because the Giants were after him and they already

909
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: had Willie Mays and they wanted to find a way

910
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: to add Clemente to the outfield. You imagine the New

911
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: York Giants with Clemente and right field. I might have

912
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: been in San Francisco by this time, but Clemente and

913
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: right field, and Willie Mays in center field and Willie

914
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: McCovey and left field. I mean that's I mean, holy cow,

915
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: that's a Hall of Fame outfield. Yeah, and I would

916
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: have been. It's interesting I heard and I heard Wilt

917
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Chamberlain say this um during his life, and Shack could

918
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: probably echo this as well. Nobody roots for Goliath rarely,

919
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's rare. You don't root

920
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: for Goliath. And I would say the most popular big

921
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: man in basketball is probably Shack. Yeah. People like Shack

922
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: because of his personality. They like him better doing movies.

923
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I think they like him better now and they did

924
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: when he played. But he was one of those bits.

925
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he just muscled people out of the way

926
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: diesel man just like seven one, three hundred, he's out

927
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: there leading the break. Yeah, are you taking a charge

928
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: on that guy? You'll be in the mezzanine. He's a unicorn.

929
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: He's a unicorn. But see, But like I said, though,

930
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I would, but on the whole, they

931
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: don't just don't. They don't root for the guys who

932
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, the goliaths of the game. Yeah, Now they

933
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: do in some other sports like Jeter. I mean he's

934
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: a captain of the you know, the most technical I

935
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: thought you was specifically talking like physical size Goliath. It

936
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: is kind of like that. Yeah, they're always the villain

937
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: because they're expected to dominate. Yes, yes, and that's I

938
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: don't know why that is. Who knows, but I've noticed that.

939
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: And I heard, like I said, I heard Wilt Chamberlain

940
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: say that, either in his autobiography or maybe he was

941
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: quoted as saying, you know, nobody roots for Goliath, and

942
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: and and here and this is when we're asking everybody

943
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: what the people you root for the most? Certainly great,

944
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: all time great players, but nobody's picked you know those guys. Well,

945
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: we've got more picks waiting at eight three five fifty.

946
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: Hang tie, We have to take a break here, but

947
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls when we return. Which athlete

948
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: do you root for or rooted for the hardest? Give

949
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: us a good story. We want to hear it. Eight

950
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: o three oh five fifty back in a flash here

951
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: on one Bill's life at a Steve Tasker who has

952
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: been all over the fields, kind of unique. He was

953
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Steve a balloon,

954
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratedere of

955
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: normalcy here. All right, our number two one bills Live,

956
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: Chris Brown steams Chasker with you, and we hope we

957
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: can get back to the phone sooner rather than later

958
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: here as we're having some technical issues with the phone line,

959
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: So hang tight in there. We'll get to you as

960
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: soon as we get it back up and running. In

961
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: the meantime, we're gonna get some stories off the tweet

962
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: sheet on you know who you rooted for the most,

963
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: either in the past or even now. In the wake

964
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: of the throng of support that Phil Mickelson got over

965
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: the weekend as Lefty won the PGA Championship, oldest player

966
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: to do so, to win a major and so kind

967
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: of sparked us to think, Hey, you know, what's an

968
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: athlete that you rooted for? Why did you root so

969
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: hard for that athlete? Maybe it's because it was somebody

970
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: that was perceived to be past their prime, like Michelson,

971
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: who wasn't gonna have a sniff a winning a major

972
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: ever again. And then he's the he's in the hunt,

973
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my gosh, go go go, come on. Yeah,

974
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: those are some you think back across the decades. This

975
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: one with Michelson's gonna be huge because of the crowd

976
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: reaction coming off COVID. Nobody was Master anything. The crowd

977
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: was just crazy down in South Carolina. The nineteen ninety

978
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: one we got a call early with Jimmy Connors getting

979
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: to the quarters or semifinals of the US Open tennis

980
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: at thirty nine and the crowd just absolutely willing him

981
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: to try and win that match. The nineteen eighty six

982
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: Masters with Jack Nichols at forty six years old was

983
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: and I think that was different than the Mickelson. When

984
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Michelson was leading all the way through the weekend, Jack

985
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere on Sunday afternoon run the back

986
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: nine shot at thirty one and won it at a

987
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: point in his life where he was already, like Michelson,

988
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of legendary. So it was that was a little

989
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: different because he exploded for the win at the very

990
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: end and Michelson had a death grip on it and

991
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: pulled it out. A lot of different scenarios. You can

992
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: think of basketball games, and you know scenarios and teams

993
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: that you think about as you're rooted for as a kid.

994
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was never a big obviously, A

995
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: never big baseball guy. Was a big football guy. Uh.

996
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: I was a big Chiefs fan growing up, back when

997
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: Lenny Dawson was playing, and Otis Taylor and Elmo Wright

998
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: and Buck Buchanan, Willie Lanier, all of those guys. It

999
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge moment for me, huge team for me.

1000
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: But living where I did. You know who who strike

1001
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: me as the biggest sports icon of my lifetime when

1002
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I was growing up was Muhammad Ali. Well, he was

1003
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: a world figure. He wasn't just a US guy. I remember,

1004
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: he was a world There's a story about him when

1005
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: they was going to do a fight and they were

1006
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: trying to sell. The promoter said, you got to take

1007
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: this fight. You know, let's do this fight. They go,

1008
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's about you know, and he goes,

1009
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. He goes, let me just tell

1010
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: you he got something. He goes off. He goes, you

1011
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: don't have to sell a fight. I'll cell a fighting.

1012
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: What do you mean? He goes, he was outside of that.

1013
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: They were in New York City. He walked out onto

1014
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: the street in New York City and traffic stopped, crowd gathered.

1015
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: He everybody knew who that guy was. I mean to

1016
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: think about the fact that he was a global superstar

1017
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. I mean, think about technology. Then

1018
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: you're at the mercy of broadcast television. There's three and

1019
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: that's it, Carvet and Stone. I mean, that's to be

1020
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: at that time was unheard of. I mean, Michael Jordan

1021
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: was probably the first global NBA star, right because of

1022
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: where the NBA was going, due in large part to

1023
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: him and the European League evolvement he was. He was

1024
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: probably the first global NBA star. Um, Now you've got

1025
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: soccer guys like Messisi and those was probably along that

1026
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: line too, right. He was just not in this country, right,

1027
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean he was a world superstar, just not in

1028
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: this country until he came to the Cut and played

1029
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: for the Cosmos and then people knew who he was.

1030
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, so yeah, Muhammad Aliza, Yeah he was that

1031
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: guy was a pioneer when in terms of sports recognition,

1032
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: and it was he was unbelievable in the fights he

1033
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: had and the and the fact that we got to

1034
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: chance because of who he wasn't, the kind of guy

1035
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: he was, you got a chance to see him a lot.

1036
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: You know him and Coseell, the interviews they used to

1037
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: do together. It was it was a wild world of

1038
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: sports and it was. Yeah, and that way you couldn't

1039
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: that was you couldn't not see that there was only

1040
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: and there was no cable. It was only three channels,

1041
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: broeh three And I know it's I know it sounds

1042
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: like comedy, It's true, and it was. That was the case, man.

1043
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: And even when cable came out, I didn't have it

1044
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: in my house. Yeah. Unfortunately in New York you get

1045
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: a few more channels than you're probably doing Kansas, Western Kansas,

1046
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: and it would cost you. I think it was like,

1047
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was a month. It was like,

1048
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, you think back then it was like five

1049
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: bucks a month or or something like. Nobody's gonna like

1050
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: what to pay for television. I got the antenna on

1051
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: my chimney. Right, I'm good. We're not paying for TV.

1052
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: You're crazy. Home box office that was the first already

1053
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: pay for electric and gas. I'm not paying for television.

1054
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: Home box office was If you had home box office,

1055
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: you were making it. You were like financially you were

1056
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: in a different league. Yeah, I see that. It's like

1057
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: a hummingbird caught in that. It's a carpenter b Yes,

1058
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: Carpenter b on set. He's trapped in one of the

1059
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: bird We have those around my house. They're a lot

1060
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah, don't get me started, but that. Yeah,

1061
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: that the the Muhammada League was a huge, huge, global

1062
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: iconic figure and obviously it had a lot to do

1063
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: with the attention he got from the three major networks

1064
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: here in this country. But man, the fight in Manila

1065
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: one just huge And I was like, you know, I

1066
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: was like nobody knew and I didn't ask why are

1067
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: they fighting in Zaire? And where is Ziarah? Right? And Manila?

1068
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that in Europe? What is it? Where

1069
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: is that? You know? I'm you know, Google didn't exist,

1070
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: how you know, So you gotta go to your Encyclopedia

1071
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: Britannica and hopefully hope you can find it right pulling

1072
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: a giant book off the shelf. Right, So yeah, those

1073
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: are I think Muhammad Ali was probably the most far

1074
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: reaching and overarching, like for a long period of time,

1075
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: because even after he retired he wasn't gonna fight anymore,

1076
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: and even Leon Spinks fights, you know, but people had

1077
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: people had their favorites in boxing too, Like my guy

1078
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: was Marvin Hagler. It was a golden era because that guy.

1079
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: The reason I loved Marvin Hagler. He wasn't a showboat.

1080
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: Guy was all business, and in boxing there was showboating

1081
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: before showboating in any of the other sports. And for me,

1082
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I loved Haggler because he wasn't all He didn't showboat

1083
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: at all. He was all about business and he just

1084
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: get in there and grind and that appealed to me.

1085
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: I loved it because he wasn't like all the other

1086
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, Sugar Ray Leonard was, you know, the show

1087
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: off and you know he's doing all the extra stuff

1088
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: and he was entertaining. Don't get me wrong, but Haggler

1089
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: was my guy. And I still think he got robbed

1090
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: again Sugar Ray Leonard, but that's another story. Yeah, it

1091
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: was really the Hey days. I don't know, the seventies,

1092
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: maybe the eighties were really that kind of heavyweight golden

1093
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: air because you had George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali.

1094
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: He had those three at least that were Ken Norton

1095
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: was a was a great fighter. Larry Holmes came Larry

1096
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: Holmes came around right. Larry Holmes at them, but just

1097
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: before Larry Holmes took the title and he held it

1098
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: for what ten years. Um, that was a really great era.

1099
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: And that's that kind of effect because I was writing

1100
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: my teenage years, you know, in the late set, mid

1101
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: to late seventies. That's when boxing was free too. Just

1102
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: get it on Saturday night on ABS. Oh it's a

1103
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: boxing match here today on Saturday afternoon. Oh it's Bennie

1104
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: pass the ends and you know whoever else. Yeah, that

1105
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: was amazing, and you know, then came pay per view

1106
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: and that was the end of that for me and

1107
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: he Boxing's one of those things that it was. They

1108
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: always put it a you know, at a point where

1109
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: because this was you know, pre Monday night football and

1110
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: pre prime primetime sporting events, boxing was a primetime sporting event.

1111
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that was kind of a huge boost

1112
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: for no other sport was primetime. Baseball's in the afternoon,

1113
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, football until they got to Monday night. They

1114
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: didn't realize, you know, and then then they won every

1115
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: game in primetime they could have it. Let's go to

1116
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet to get some of your comments on

1117
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: what athletes you rooted for and why. Tweet sheet brought

1118
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving System as the official equipment

1119
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: room in company at the Buffalo Bills All Rusty says.

1120
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: Always rooted for Oral Hirscheizer because he's from Western New York.

1121
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: That is true. He was born in Buffalo. I don't

1122
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: think he lived here very long, but he was born here.

1123
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: And Tim Wakefield because I love the knuckleball in NFL.

1124
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: I rooted for Chris Warren, enjoyed the bruising running back

1125
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: from Division three. And Randall Cunningham because he was so

1126
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: fun to watch run around and make the fenders look

1127
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: silly and lob bombs a bit like number seventeen. Cunningham

1128
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: was a freak in his day. I still remember that

1129
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Giants. Carl Banks wraps him

1130
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: up around the legs and he puts his hand on

1131
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: the ground to brace himself from falling while the football

1132
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: is in the other hand. Cunningham, I mean he's I mean,

1133
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: Carl Banks is coming in like a missile and he

1134
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: takes him out at the knees. His legs shoot up

1135
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: in the air. He puts one hand on the ground

1136
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: while he's got the ball on the other hand, puts

1137
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: his feet back down as Carl Banks slides underneath him

1138
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: and passed him, stands up, runs around for another two seconds,

1139
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: and throws it in the back corner of the end

1140
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: zone to Mike Quick for a touchdown. I was like,

1141
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: what the hell just happened? Yeah, that's like and I

1142
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of either of those days when I

1143
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that was yeah, me either, and that

1144
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: was one of those work and the thing it always

1145
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: gets me, even though I have done this broadcasting thing

1146
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: for a long time, when the broadcasters react and you

1147
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: can the Monday night football guys were like, are you

1148
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: kidding me? Yeah? What did we why? You're right? It

1149
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, because that never happened in

1150
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, they were buttoned up. They were handing

1151
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: it off, dropping back and throwing it and that, and

1152
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: right from the pocket. Your quarterback doesn't run around it.

1153
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Because if your quarterback runs around, your offensive lines horrible.

1154
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, you can't do that. It's just not the

1155
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: way the game is supposed to be playing. And all

1156
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: the back you know, all the old school stuff. Now

1157
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: it's it was Randall Cunningham breaking out of the pocket.

1158
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: You can't have a quarterback like that. Now. The knuckleballers

1159
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: are interesting because they beat you in a far different

1160
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: way than most pitchers do, and they can make people

1161
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: look stupid with that thing. Oh and so it becomes entertaining,

1162
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: like how ridiculous is this guy gonna make this power hit?

1163
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: Or look here, like is he gonna really cross him

1164
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: up and make him look bad? Yeah, Like these guys

1165
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: are swinging from their shoots because they want to just

1166
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: crush the ball and it's just floating in there. Who's

1167
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: the guy he used to doctor the baseballs? Gaylord Perry.

1168
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: Gaylord was at Gaylord Perry that got Reggie Jackson to

1169
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: bring the cooler of ice out to the umpire. Oh

1170
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Oh my gosh, Reggie was so hot.

1171
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: He was in his art. But beef and the call

1172
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: beef and beef, and he whiz in there, grabs a cooler,

1173
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: one of those orange coolers, and he's on every sideline

1174
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: and every dugout comes at his full ice, the cylindrical one,

1175
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, he's pulling it. He's like, hey,

1176
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: just give him some give him some of this to

1177
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: put on the ball too. Just do that, you know,

1178
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: and then you know, they run him. I think I

1179
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: think they ran him out. He was gone. But man,

1180
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: oh man, he was so so angry, and and of

1181
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: course I think it was Gaylord. He's out there, you know,

1182
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: he's doing this with the ball on the not even

1183
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: looking at him. You know. Yeah, he had vaciline on

1184
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the bru of his hat all the time. Um, so

1185
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: he put all kinds of calls, every stuff on it.

1186
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: And then you and then Necro Phil Necro, who's the

1187
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: more famous knuckleball, or his brother Joe. I was watching

1188
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: the game live. He got he was pitching for the Twins,

1189
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know, somebody got tipped off on the

1190
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: other team. And so the manager says, I want to

1191
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: check him right now, Like, don't let him leave them

1192
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: out when the inning's over. We're gonna check him right now.

1193
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: He's doctor in the baseball scuffing it up or whatever.

1194
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: So they do an inspection. So they're checking his glove,

1195
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, looking for something in there. They can't find anything,

1196
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: and then they're like, all right, empty your pockets. So

1197
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: he puts his hands in the back pockets of his

1198
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: pants and he goes like this like he's got nothing.

1199
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: But he put an emory board between his fingers and

1200
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: tried to chuck it away hoping nobody would see. It's

1201
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: like you're in the middle of a baseball diamond, the

1202
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: cameras are on and you got four ups looking at you.

1203
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: How do you think nobody's gonna see the Emory board

1204
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: flying across them through the nail fire? Oh oh, I

1205
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: use that, you know, keep my nails trim so I

1206
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: can throw the knuckleball. It's like, okay, buddy, you're you're suspected,

1207
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: you're doctor's scuffing up the ball. And then yeah, unbelievable,

1208
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: um from three puts for days. Being a left handed

1209
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: golfer and with us being so far and few between,

1210
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: I always support my lefties all the way. So obvious.

1211
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Michelson Ruder there, dude, I learned this just this morning

1212
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: watching the reports on Michelson. He is not a natural lefty.

1213
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: That's right. He was he was shot. He became a

1214
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: left handed golfer because his dad was a pro and

1215
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: he was left. No, his dad d's a righty. Oh.

1216
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: And his dad showed him. And he was standing there

1217
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: watching his dad, and his dad would face him and

1218
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: say here's when you And he'd faced his dad and

1219
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: as his dad showed him how he just looked at

1220
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: his dad and put his hands down and mirrored his

1221
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: father and was left and he's made him a left

1222
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: His dad's a righty, so he faced. Story's even more amazing.

1223
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: And that's how he learned to swing left handed because

1224
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: his dad's a right handed golfer. And that's you know,

1225
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: So he just did what his dad did in exact reverse. Yeah,

1226
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: mirror image, and that's how I learned to play. That

1227
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: is crazy. He's not even a natural lefty. It's even

1228
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: more amazing. Of course of me. I'm trying to get

1229
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: my family members involved, the little guys involved in golf,

1230
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: and they're all picking up the stick left handed. I asked,

1231
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: my it happens a lot more than you think. The

1232
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: pro at at this club that I'm at. He said

1233
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: his son played lefty until he was nine years old.

1234
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and then just out of the blue said

1235
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: this hadn't feel right. I'm gonna switch to right now.

1236
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: I did that seamless, he say, just turned around started

1237
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: hitting it. My dad told me I did that with

1238
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 1: a baseball bat when I was four. Ye he said,

1239
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: I was batting lefty every day in the backyard. And

1240
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: then he's like one day he just picked up the

1241
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: bat and went to the other side, and I asked you,

1242
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: are you all right with that? And You're like, yeah,

1243
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: let's hit. And I was a right eye after that

1244
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: ever since then. Yeah, And I know that the scientists say,

1245
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: because I've read this, true handedness does not show up

1246
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: until age five. So you're like, I guess you're an ambidexter,

1247
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: says a toddler or whatever. You can do whatever you want.

1248
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: But like your butt, your brain, I guess programs you

1249
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: and you figure it out after that. But you can

1250
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: teach yourself to hit the other way if you really

1251
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: wanted to. I mean Mickey Mantle, his dad made him

1252
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: hit both ways because he said, you'll be a more

1253
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: valuable professional baseball player as a switch hitter, and so

1254
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: he made him hit lefty even though he was a

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: natural righting and he was one of the greatest switch

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Speaker 1: hitters to ever play baseball. So crazy to think of

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: from Chris. Honestly, it is Phil. I just think he's

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: a wonderful kind of person and great golfer. That said,

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: Tiger is second and the opposite person Phil is he

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: is on the course, that's for sure. Yeah, Tiger is

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: one of those all business kind of guys on the course,

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01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't know he's a serious heart and I yuck

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01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: it up at all and it's like Brooke Kepka. He

1264
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: was still grumpy after the after the match. Yeah about

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: getting his knee dinged in the in the gallery when

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: he got swallowed up by the people. Uh JT. On

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: the tweet, Chet says, after last week's episode, I might

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: have to go with Salmon arn left out loud. Steve Brownie,

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: you were hilarious. I watched the show religiously, in all seriousness.

1270
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Lebron James fan. The guy, in my opinion,

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01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: is the best player in NBA history next to MJ.

1272
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Also got to love r QB Josh Go Bills. I

1273
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: think there is an appreciation Steve now. Josh is kind

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01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: of the whole package rolled into one because he is

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: ridiculously gifted physically, so he has elite physical tools, but

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: his path again makes him easy to root for. No

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: scholarship offers had to go to junior college just to

1278
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: play after high school. Only d one offer is Wyoming.

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01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: He goes to play in the Mountain West Conference. He

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: breaks his collar bone his first year as a starter.

1281
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: Has to wait longer. You know, doesn't get a lot

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: of premium talent around him on his team. Doubted all

1283
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: the way to the draft, doubt it after he gets

1284
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and now that he's a success, people

1285
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: look at the path and they're like, man, that's an

1286
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: easy guy to root for. Yeah, particularly because as Bills fans,

1287
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: we've experienced firsthand over you know, Twitter and social media

1288
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff about how much people were

1289
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: against him, i mean, flat out against him, laughing at him,

1290
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: making a punch line, joking about him, telling him he's

1291
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: never gonna make it. He's never They were, you know,

1292
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: they were part of the reason. You'll you think the

1293
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: guy's awesome because and like he did the video for

1294
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: Trey Lance this year, don't listen to him, you know,

1295
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: that's ignore them, ignore them. That's that's a really easy

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: guy to come alongside with things. You know, when everybody's

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01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: pulling it that you'll never do it, You'll and that,

1298
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: and there's a people like you and me. You know,

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: people are like, he's never gonna be a good quarterback.

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: You're stupid for drafting him. He's he's he can't hit

1301
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: the broadside of all the stuff. We heard for oh

1302
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: month on months on end, and every play that he

1303
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: did where it wouldn't didn't go his way or did something,

1304
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: he did something crazy, sugar high, Josh, this just pummel

1305
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: you with it. Pummel with it, pummel you with it.

1306
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: And this last season, you know, they're thirteen win team.

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: He's making throws nobody else in the league could make.

1308
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: And I went back, you know, the showing the Bulldog round.

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: They're asking about plays that Josh Owen. The play I

1310
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: think about when I see I think about Josh last

1311
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: year is that Kumero touchdown in Denver with a six

1312
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: inch window to throw it into and it's and it's

1313
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: also that throw in in San Francisco when it's over

1314
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: the leaping linebacker. It looked like he almost touched it,

1315
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: he didn't, and it falls right into Gabe Davis, and

1316
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis isn't even in the picture until the ball

1317
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: gets there. And there's play after play like that last

1318
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: year where Josh did something. It was unbelievable after all

1319
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: the months upon months upon months that all of us

1320
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: have been getting hammered by all these you know, these

1321
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: Jet fans, and he's, you know, all these fans of

1322
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: other teams that are just hammering us about our quarterback.

1323
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was just so delicious. And now

1324
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, so it's easy to root for the guy

1325
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: when so many people were just like cheering against him

1326
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: in his face. People love to root for those who

1327
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: beat the odds, whether they're enormously talented or not. Somebody

1328
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: that beats the odds, people can get behind that really easy. Yeah.

1329
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: I grew up and that's Josh right right, And I'll

1330
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: say this about his Lebron James reference. I'm a big

1331
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: Lebron James fan, huge Lebron James fan. And I grew

1332
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: up in the I went to school in Chicago, so

1333
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: I had a little right when Jordan was coming up, right,

1334
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean so I was. I was. I left there

1335
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: in eighty five, so he came in. It was his

1336
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: was just after me. But and I had nothing but

1337
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: loving respect for Michael. But Lebron did it in a

1338
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: different era, the NBA, and they're both really good at

1339
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: their era. Michael had no say in, or least didn't

1340
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: seem like yet any saying who's gonna play for him?

1341
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, they broke the team up around him. They

1342
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: Lebron is the GM. I'm in a good analyst, and

1343
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down to South Beach. I'm gonna and

1344
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get two guys to go with me, and

1345
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna win some They went to four straight finals

1346
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: and one two of them. Then he comes back to Cleveland.

1347
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: He comes back to Cleveland and wins another one. Again't

1348
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: arguably one of the best dynasties in this and they

1349
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: should have won two of them except the other guys.

1350
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: The other great quote unquote great players couldn't even make

1351
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: it to the finals. They were all in. They were

1352
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: both injured, Kevin Love and Kyrie they were both hurt,

1353
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: and he almost he almost beat them with Delava Dova.

1354
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: We why don't you know what the guys what's the

1355
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: guy's first name? I don't remember Delava. I'm like what, who? Who?

1356
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: I was like who? And they they won Game five

1357
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: with that guy in the lineup. I'm like, what are that?

1358
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: Is unbelievable. The block at the end of the series,

1359
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: to win it, to win it, to ice it, It's

1360
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: I've got I'm a huge huge Lebron fan. Tiffany on

1361
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says, for me, it was Patrick Ewing.

1362
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: He and the Knicks could never get past Jordan and

1363
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: the Bulls, and when they finally made it, the Rockets

1364
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: had their number. He will go down as my all

1365
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: time favorite NBA player. Here's an interesting dichotomy for me,

1366
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: as a lifelong Knicks fan. I despised Patrick Ewing because

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01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: he played at Georgetown and I was a Saint John's fan,

1368
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: and so Saint John's and Georgetown we're always clashing in

1369
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: the Big East. And that guy was a nemesis. He

1370
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: was just a pain in the neck. I mean, he's

1371
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: just rejecting every shot. He's dunking things left and right.

1372
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I can't wait till

1373
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: this guy gets out of the Big East. Maybe Saint

1374
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: John's can actually win something. And then sure enough he

1375
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: gets the Knicks get the first pick in the draft,

1376
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy crap, we're gonna get Patrick Now.

1377
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 1: I gotta like the guy. It was so weird for

1378
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: meum and he made them good for a really long time.

1379
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: They just couldn't get over the hump. It was just

1380
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: you played in the era of Jordan and Elijahan and yeah,

1381
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: and as good as Ewing was, he was not Elijah On.

1382
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: Elijah On was a superior athlete and could do more.

1383
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: Um ewing in college was unbelievable though. That guy was

1384
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: a one man wrecking crew. He was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

1385
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: If you shot anywhere twelve feet from the basket, he

1386
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: was blocking it. It was. It was like a no

1387
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: fly zone, like you can't come in here and shoot

1388
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: it if ewing is in the in the key because

1389
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: it's getting thrown the other way, right, Yeah, that it was.

1390
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: It was an era where you know, and I think

1391
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: a lot of us fall victim to where we were

1392
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: in our lives and what was going on around us too.

1393
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean right, I mean you're you're in New York

1394
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: and as a baseball town before it was a football town,

1395
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: and me, I was in the middle of absolutely nowhere

1396
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: with you know, the only exposure we got to anything

1397
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: was nationally broadcast games. So what'd you get Royals and

1398
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals there for baseball? We got Chiefs Royals radio, Yeah,

1399
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: no question, that was it. The Rockies didn't come along

1400
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 1: until because I know the Cardinals were on KMOX for

1401
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: the longest time out there, and that's a fifty thousand

1402
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: wat flamethrower and on flat ground out there, I'd like

1403
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: to think you could have pulled in radio out of St. Louis.

1404
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, it's fifty thousand watts. I'm like a Saint.

1405
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a literally a thirteen hour drive. Oh

1406
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: all right, that is pretty far. I'm like, I'm like,

1407
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a four I'm a four hour drive from Denver. Okay,

1408
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: that's where we are, way west, So we're way way west.

1409
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: We're west of Dallas, Okay, So all right, I feel

1410
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: you kmox Man fifty thousand wad flamethrower out there. Oh yeah,

1411
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's you. And with all that flat ground,

1412
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, those radio waves are just they they'll thing is,

1413
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: they'll cover six states and they'll get you know, twenty listeners,

1414
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, and that's ninety percent of the radios that

1415
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: are actually on. There's just nobody there there was for

1416
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: anybody listening out exactly. Yeah, all right, break time for

1417
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: us more of your comments on the tweet sheet. Hopefully

1418
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: we'll get the phones back up here in short order

1419
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: to get more of your phone calls. Sorry to those

1420
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: of you that we're waiting. Hopefully we can get to

1421
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: you soon. Here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid

1422
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's radio plug back One Bills Live.

1423
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker apologize, our phone lines are still

1424
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: down right now, so when they're back up, we'll let

1425
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: you know. In the meantime, we'll focus on your comments

1426
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. So if you have a favorite

1427
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: athlete or an athlete that you know just compelled you

1428
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: to root for them, send it in and let us know.

1429
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: We're kind of playing off the heels of the widespread

1430
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: support that Phil Mickelson was getting on Saturday and Sunday

1431
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: at the PGA Championship, winning as a fifty year old

1432
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: and easily considered an underdog candidate. I think he was

1433
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one at the sports books,

1434
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: and so a long shot to say the least, despite

1435
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: his illustrious career in professional golf. So we figured, hey,

1436
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: here's a guy that people find easy to root for.

1437
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: What's an athlete you found easy to root for? Hit

1438
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live

1439
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: and we go back to the tweet sheet and Ben says,

1440
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: I've always been a Dolphins fan, but the one player

1441
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: I have always rooted for is Freddie Jackson. Now here

1442
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,879
Speaker 1: again Steve a guy with a path to the pros

1443
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: where you say, man, I'm rooting for that guy because

1444
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: he jumped through every hoop known to man. I mean,

1445
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: there's a guy who's playing the Continental Indoor Football League

1446
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: before he goes to NFL Europe and earns a roster

1447
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: spot here in Buffalo. Yeah, hard to root against a

1448
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: guy who nobody said could do it. I shouldn't vision

1449
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: vision three athlete, It's exactly right, and a guy you

1450
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: can relate to. Um, it's easy not to root for

1451
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: the first pick of the draft, you know, of course,

1452
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: yeah he's yeah, he's you take his success for granted, right, Um,

1453
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: it's the guy that's not drafted, who was trying to

1454
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: make the NFL at age twenty five, right or twenty six.

1455
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: That's an easy guy to root for. And uh, yeah,

1456
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: fred Jackson, especially when he plays the way fred played.

1457
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean people love Freddie here and for good reason.

1458
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: A guy really yeah, I mean he helped this team.

1459
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he was in the next the

1460
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: greatest running back of all time or you know, even

1461
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: in the top five of the franchise. But I'll tell

1462
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: you what, during the time of the drought, people were

1463
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: looking for somebody to get behind, and Freddie was, in

1464
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: a lot of ways the guy to get behind. Whether

1465
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: his franchise couldn't get to the playoffs, they couldn't, you know,

1466
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: they couldn't get out of that nine and seven, seven

1467
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: and nine, eight and eight, seven and nine, eight and eight,

1468
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: nine and seven. I mean, you couldn't get out of

1469
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: it took, you know, And Freddie was a guy who's like,

1470
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: that's just give me, give me like six of those guys,

1471
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, give me fifty three. Fred Jackson's let's just go.

1472
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, that's what people liked. You never wondered what

1473
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: you were going to get out of him on a

1474
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: given Sunday. And I think the biggest shame of his

1475
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: career was he was well on his way to being

1476
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: named to the Pro Bowl and then he got injured

1477
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 1: and didn't go because injured guys can't go picked to

1478
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: play in it. Because there's basically him and Matt Fourte

1479
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: where like the top two rushers in football. He was

1480
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: doing everything. It was a shame. Yeah, I think it

1481
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: was the two thou eleven season he had like what

1482
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: did he had? Like twenty five hundred yards from scrimmage

1483
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: and return yards and ending total yards. Yeah, he was

1484
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: more of only a handful of players to ever do that, right,

1485
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: So crazy stuff, but yeah, easy guy to root for it.

1486
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: That's my wife's favorite player. She loves um from Robert

1487
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: Gwen Jorgensen. Amazing runner and pro triathlete. Okay won gold

1488
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: in the last Olympics, and now she's competing in marathons.

1489
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: All right, I wish there was a why, but I'm

1490
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: guessing being an amazing runner and approach triathlete is enough

1491
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: for Robert, So all right, good on her. I'll have

1492
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: to keep an eye out see if she's in the

1493
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: Olympics to run the marathon in gold the last Olympics

1494
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: and now she's just you know, it would be interesting.

1495
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even I have no idea

1496
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: who that is. Have you seen nither dyes? Have you

1497
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: seen this talk about how the Olympics might get canceled

1498
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: completely in Tokyo? I heard that the people there's the

1499
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: majority of the people who have been pulled do not

1500
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: want the Olympics to come. Japanese residents, right, the residents

1501
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: there citizens, citizens, they don't want they don't want the

1502
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: games there. The problem with that is if you do that,

1503
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a proven fact that most Olympic games

1504
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: are a loss for the host city. They very rarely

1505
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: make money. They lose money. So with all of the

1506
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 1: infrastructure investment in Tokyo over the last five years to

1507
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: get ready to host the Olympics, and now you don't

1508
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: even have the Olympics, I mean, you lose money having

1509
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Now you don't want them. I've seen some

1510
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: people you're gonna offset you know what, You're gonna offset

1511
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: them by paying more taxes. So if you don't want

1512
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: the Olympics that bad, be ready to get smacked in

1513
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: your wallet because Jepanese citizens are going to be paying

1514
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: tons more in taxes short term to make up for

1515
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: the losses. You gotta have the game. I mean, it

1516
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: is so expensive to get the Olympics. I mean, it's

1517
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: just right, which is why they usually operate at a loss,

1518
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: because there's just no way to make it up. It's

1519
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: more for political clout, you know, global notoriety. You know,

1520
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: we're a showcase city, you know, we're a world city.

1521
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's more political now than anything else.

1522
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: You know, the whole thing with the Olympics is to

1523
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: promote world peace and this and that. It's all politics now,

1524
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: it's not about you know, it's unfortunate and you can

1525
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: make the argument that not many of these athletes to realize.

1526
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: Our question of the day is who do you always

1527
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: root hard for? For me? In earlier days, the Olympics

1528
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: were they were of and beyond any sport. They were it.

1529
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: They were it. Um. You'd get those every four years

1530
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: and it was it was just a feast of day

1531
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: after day, prime time sports. You get every every Olympics,

1532
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: you get all of it, and it was huge that

1533
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: the athletes were huge, Nadia Coma and each I remember

1534
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: seeing that Olga Corbett remember her. She's a little before

1535
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: my time, but I know you're talking about, oh my gosh,

1536
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: it was. It was incredible. And then you know, and

1537
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: you get expose to sports you had no idea about.

1538
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: You know. Then then the Olds had the running and

1539
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, the track and field and stuff all that.

1540
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: Even even the Winter Games were that way. Franz Clamber

1541
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: in Munich, Not in Munich, Where were they in Austin, Insbruck, Insbrook, Austria. Um,

1542
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 1: I think I got that right. But the Olympic athletes

1543
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: were for my generation and a lot of people were

1544
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: enormously popular and because but you'd get them once at

1545
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: that four year at that Olympics, and you'd you'd never

1546
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: hear from him again because the sports they did and

1547
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: the skiing and whatever were never televised. And that's a

1548
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: really weird phenomenon when you think about it like that.

1549
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: You'd get you'd get that two weeks of the Olympics, man,

1550
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: you could not get enough, and then gone forever in

1551
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: a four years. Yeah, But the athletes themselves the repeated

1552
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: and then ext Olympics, unless they were like real young.

1553
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: All right, break time for us here, because we're hearing

1554
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: that we'll be able to reset the phone lines and

1555
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: be back there at eight O three oh five fifty.

1556
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: So if you got an athlete that you're rooted for

1557
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: the hardest, let us know who it was and why

1558
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight five

1559
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We're back in a minute, or

1560
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: hopefully we're taking your phone calls. We'll see in a

1561
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: second the phones back up. Thanks you, everybody that's been

1562
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: waiting we go back to the phones though, as we're

1563
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: asking you which athletes have you rooted for the hardest

1564
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: and why? And Kevin and Hamburg has an answer for you.

1565
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking my call. Sure, My mom and

1566
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: neighbor from Pennsylvania sore down there are tall Stewart Country.

1567
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: And my favorite growing up was Jack Lambert because he

1568
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: knew that you were scared of him, because when you

1569
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: broke out of the huddle, you had to look at him,

1570
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: not like a down layman like me Joe Green, and

1571
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: his scariness was his intimidation, like brainchild that you know,

1572
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to look at Lyneman, but you had

1573
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: to look at him, and he knew that you had

1574
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: been looking at him, and he was like the I mean,

1575
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: you can't be suave when you're scary, because remember you

1576
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: were talking about Marvin Hangler down the business. Yeah, yeah,

1577
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: Well when you're not gorgeous or hot or even the

1578
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: point of sextiness, you can't be suave. You can't be

1579
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: a showboy. You have to have something that makes you,

1580
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like in Rock and Roll, Alice

1581
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Cooper compared to Elvis Presley Elvis with suave, but he

1582
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: and Cooper wasn't, but he did his thing that made

1583
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: him what he was because of that, I'm sensing, Kevin,

1584
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: you gravitate to the intimidators. Yeah, I guess and guess

1585
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: so in a way you go, well, hey, whatever, whatever's appealing.

1586
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: I guess some people like that, especially with football. I

1587
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, thanks for calling in, Kevin's good to

1588
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: hear from you again. It's been a while. Yeah, we

1589
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: go to Bobby in Lancaster. Next, Bobby, what do you

1590
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Yay Steve

1591
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: O Brownie, how you guys doing today? Yeah, no problem.

1592
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Before I get into the athlete that I root for

1593
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: and the reason why, I just want to say, invariably

1594
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 1: half our callers are always Steve Hall of Fame Steve Alter,

1595
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: which one hundred ten percent I agree, if not the

1596
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: best ever top five, definitely, But today we'll throw a

1597
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: little sunshine. You're away to Brownie. This is the way

1598
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I feel about it. You're great at your job, You're seamless,

1599
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: you're knowledgeable, and you know what. You never see anything

1600
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: goofy on Eric, which I can appreciate because I listen

1601
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of these Yahoo's other shows. And it

1602
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: really goes far with me. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you.

1603
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: My prediction next couple of years we might be losing you.

1604
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: But anyway, the big boys will come calling. Espn FS

1605
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: one is one of them will be calling. Watched prediction.

1606
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: All right, So here we go, athlete. And the reason

1607
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: why I believe is about we'll go back maybe two decades,

1608
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. And I'm a basketball football guy. I

1609
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: do watch baseball Compennant races in October. Obviously I'll watch

1610
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: and pretty vigorously when it comes that time. But there

1611
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: was a gentleman drafted, if not number one overall, I

1612
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: believe top three, superstar talent, can't miss. Name was Josh Hamilton.

1613
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Josh had some problems. You know, he had

1614
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: some off field issues, which a lot of us can

1615
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: understand in this country, if not family members, people we

1616
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: know have issues with substance problems. But this guy ended

1617
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: up blowing it off for a long time. A year,

1618
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: sat in a tattoo pilor ten hours a day doing

1619
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: his thing while his career was dwindling away. Usually you

1620
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: don't get it back at that point. I gotta give

1621
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: him credit. Her story that his grandmother once said, Hey,

1622
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think you got it anymore, Josh.

1623
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: Maybe she was doing reverse psychology, told him, I think

1624
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: it's too late for you. You know, you're in too

1625
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: much trouble with the other stuff. Well, he turned himself around,

1626
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: which is not easy to do. And not only did

1627
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: he turn himself around, but he became a big time

1628
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: all star, he got the big contract. And also I

1629
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: was talking to your producer. He reminded me, I believe

1630
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: he won the Home Runner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it

1631
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: said somebody that you know. Like I said, we all

1632
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: relate to these issues with substance abuse and everything. But

1633
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: I can root for a guy like that, even though

1634
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: he's not in my main view with sports watching. Like

1635
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: I said, football, basketball is my thing, but baseball. A

1636
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: guy like that and his story just can relate to it,

1637
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: and I can appreciate that. So I'll leave you with, Oh,

1638
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: I want to give you one more thing, though, real quick,

1639
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: give me thirty seconds here on bil Michelson. I just

1640
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: turned fifty one. He's turning fifty one next month, so

1641
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm about two months older than him. I'm in pretty

1642
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: good shape for myself, for my age. I'm a little

1643
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: bit better if you looked at me. And so I'm

1644
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: in better shape. But I could never do what Phill

1645
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: just did by walking that course and playing against these guys.

1646
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Unbelievable feat. Of course, a little bitter sweet for me,

1647
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: because I'll give a plug to your sponsored Seneca Casino.

1648
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I threw fifty bucks on books cop at forty five

1649
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: to one. Yeah, we're looking at a couple of granded

1650
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: just went out the window. Bitter sweet, little bitter sweet,

1651
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 1: a little more better than sweet. But if somebody's gotta win,

1652
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: a guy my age, Phil beautiful, good for him, God

1653
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: bless him, and uh it is what it is meant

1654
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: to be or not, but fill once you hold that

1655
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: out on five, if you remember that Steve Wye, you

1656
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: knew it was his day and he was gonna win.

1657
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: So I'll leave you guys with that. Josh Hamilton was

1658
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: my man, though, and we'll see what you gotta say.

1659
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I have a good day, jo, I appreciate a good

1660
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: call um. Yeah, Josh Hamilton. That's another area where people

1661
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:53,839
Speaker 1: will gravitate somebody who's been somebody who is ridiculously gifted

1662
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: physically blew it blows. It goes to the depths of

1663
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: fritter it all away, and then somehow battles his addiction,

1664
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: climbs back up the ladder, gets back to the major leagues,

1665
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: goes to the All Star Game, wins the home run,

1666
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the sweetest swings you're ever going

1667
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: to see, all while still battling addiction. And I think

1668
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: for people who don't haven't personally experienced addiction, or don't

1669
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: have a friend or a family member that's been through it,

1670
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: you're never not an addict anymore, right, You're always going

1671
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: to be that. And I think what people forget when

1672
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: they see these people climb back up the ladder is

1673
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: they're doing it and they're still an addict, like it's

1674
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: an every day, every hour thing. And to be performing

1675
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: at that level while still being I think it's it's

1676
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: an easy thing to get behind somebody like that because

1677
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: you know what they're fighting, or at least have an

1678
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: idea what they're fighting. If you know what addictions about, Yeah,

1679
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: and that's you're right, that's a good one. And that's

1680
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: another way. And that's one of the rays you you

1681
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: find too root for the people who are truly gifted, because,

1682
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: like we said earlier, a lot of people have a

1683
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: hard time rooting for Goliath and David and Goliath, and

1684
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: some of these guys you see in these professional sports

1685
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: seem so gifted and it looks either easy for them

1686
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: or they're so physically different than everybody else, you don't

1687
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: think there's any excuse for them not to be successful.

1688
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: So a guy who blows it would have been like

1689
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf coming back in football and becoming a pro

1690
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Bowler's it's rough, and you're right there, it's not like

1691
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: they won. They beat they won the battle and came back.

1692
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: They're fighting. They're winning it today up to this point. Yeah,

1693
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: and then you know they still had a couple of relapses,

1694
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: if memory serves, I mean, he had a relapse here

1695
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: and there, and it was it was not easy. But

1696
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you think about we're talking about the mental games of

1697
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: pro golf. You think about that mental game every day.

1698
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: You're trying to remember the scouting report on the pitch

1699
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: of you're facing, and you got some demon in the

1700
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: back of your head going, hey, how about a hit

1701
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: after the seventh inning in the clubhouse in the back

1702
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's just I mean,

1703
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: that's that's tough. That's really tough. So yeah, I could

1704
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: see why you get behind somebody like that. In a second,

1705
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: we have to take a break here because coming up

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01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: next we've got from ESPN dot Com one Bill Barnwell,

1707
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: who's got a lot of interesting NFL offseason news to

1708
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: share with us, along with some predictions. Where's Julio Jones

1709
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: gonna go? What about Aaron Rodgers? Bill Barnwell has got

1710
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: some ideas. You're gonna share those with us when we

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01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

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01:32:39,840 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve task To put

1713
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: all over the field kind of unique. He was kind

1714
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve a blimp.

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01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: We're not even in the strategyre of normalcy. Our number

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01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: three coming your way, Monday edition One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: by ESPN senior NFL writer, the host of the Bill

1719
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Barnwell Show podcast. That's right. If you are a supersleuth,

1720
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: you have guest. It is Bill Barnwell joining us on

1721
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: the line right now. Bill, how you doing? First of all,

1722
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: and second of all, we got to jump right into

1723
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, especially with all the stuff that went down

1724
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: today with his Dallas Cowboys sweatshirt and calling live on

1725
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: the air with Shannon Sharpe. How are you doing though? Bill? Hey, guys,

1726
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: how's it going. I mean, it's never a boring time

1727
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: here in the NFL? Is there? Huh? It's unbelievable. Yeah,

1728
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: we're to May and that, like this is the first

1729
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: day of Phase three. Nobody cares, but they want to

1730
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: hear about Julio Jones going getting called by Shannon Sharpe

1731
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, he's out of Atlanta and b he

1732
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for the Cowboys. And then see

1733
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: he was seeing in a picture in a Dallas Cowboy sweatshirt.

1734
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: What do we make all? Well, I mean, the Cowboys

1735
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 1: will make a lot of sense for Julio Jones. I

1736
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: mean just in terms of the talent. They already have

1737
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: a receiver Luri Cooper, CD Lamb, Michael Gallup. The last

1738
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: thing they need is another wide receiver. So let's lease

1739
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys out. But you gotta figure at this point,

1740
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Julio Jones thinks he's not going to win a Super

1741
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: Bowl with the Atlanta Falcons getting to the tail end

1742
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: of his career, an incredibly talented receiver. I don't think

1743
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: anyone needs me to tell them how good Julio Jones

1744
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 1: can be, but miss nine games with a hamstring injury

1745
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: last year. A guy who, even when he's healthy, plays

1746
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 1: fewer stows plays about eighty percent of the snaps, typically

1747
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: fewer than most top tier NFL wide receivers play at

1748
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: this point of their careers. And a guy who has

1749
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: repeatedly kind of pushed for new contracts, who hasn't even

1750
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: started the three year extension he signed with the Atlanta Falcons,

1751
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: even though they've paid I believe almost forty million dollars

1752
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: of that deal already to Julio Jones. So the guy

1753
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: you might be looking for a new contract next year.

1754
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: So I think there's a really interesting sort of figure

1755
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: for a player who we know, when he's healthy can

1756
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: be a difference maker for your team. But it has

1757
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: to be the right team and has to be the

1758
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: right situation, And I think it really comes down to

1759
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: whether you know, very similar to the Stefondick situation, you know,

1760
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: a team that might want to take that leap to

1761
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: the next level might be more likely to trade for

1762
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and a team that's already sort of at

1763
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: the top and expecting to compete for a Super Bowl. Yeah.

1764
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: But I gotta imagine that's going to throw some people

1765
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: off the scent. I mean, yes, what they would inherit

1766
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: in the current contract is pretty palatable. But if he

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01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: wants a new deal, I think that might scare some

1768
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: people off, especially with the injury history that you mentioned,

1769
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: the fact that he's entering his age thirty two thirty

1770
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: three season. He said on air today or whenever that

1771
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: was with Shannon Sharpe, he wants to go to a winner.

1772
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna have that choice because

1773
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: the teams that tend to have the most cap room

1774
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 1: or the teams that are looking to rebuild their roster

1775
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: from the ground up. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, he

1776
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: has no no trade clause. If Falcons want to move him,

1777
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: you know they don't. He's not really going to have

1778
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: many choices. And on top of that, the Falcons really

1779
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: need to I mean, their cap situation is so messy.

1780
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: They don't even have the cap starts right now to

1781
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: sign the guys they've drafted, so they can't bring in

1782
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts until they clear out a few more million

1783
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. So you figure the easiest way

1784
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: for them to do that, it's going to be by

1785
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: trading Julio Jones. So, um, you know, for the Falcons,

1786
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: they're incentivized to make a move. I know Julio requested

1787
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: a trade reportively, but uh, you know he's not going

1788
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: to have the ability like a Russell Wilson for example,

1789
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: to kind of pick and choose where he might end up.

1790
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what is a list of teams?

1791
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: If you've thought about it, Um, perhaps you have. It's

1792
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 1: a short on it. Give us a little short list

1793
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: of places where Julio Jones could land that he could

1794
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: fit their roster, fit their offense, have a chance to

1795
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: win all of the if all of the boxes got checked,

1796
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: what teams would be have the possibility of making it happen. Yeah,

1797
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you three teams that come to mind for

1798
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: me at three different points of sort of their their

1799
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: path to a Super Bowl. Number one that comes to

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01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: mind for me New England Patriots. I mean just a

1801
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: clear fit here, a team that even though they added

1802
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of receiver this year, still could use that

1803
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. A team that spent a ton

1804
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: of money in this offseason to try and win now

1805
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: that has Mac Jones coming in on a rookie contract

1806
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: for the next four years. They can afford Julio Jones,

1807
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: even if he does want to raise over the next

1808
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: couple of years. And I think a team with Bill Belichick,

1809
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: they want to win now. I mean, they don't want

1810
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: to be a team that's five years away from competing.

1811
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Giving that Robert Kraft, Bill Belichicker probably towards the end

1812
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: of their time running NFL, you know, bring an NFL organization.

1813
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: So I do think that, you know, Julio Jones would

1814
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: be total sense for the Patriots at the right price.

1815
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: The Jaguars, a team that's not really close to winning,

1816
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: but might be closer than we think. The AFC South

1817
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: might be up for grabs this year. Tennessee took a

1818
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: step backwards to offices and the Texans are a mess.

1819
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: The Colts trading for Carson Wentz don't know what they're

1820
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 1: going to get from him at quarterback With the Jaguars.

1821
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you had Trevor Lawrence, you had Urban Meyer.

1822
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: You want to surround your new rookie quarterback with as

1823
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: much talent as possible. I mean, look at the strides

1824
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made last year once they added stefandis a

1825
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: true number one ride receiver. I know that doesn't seem

1826
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: like it's the time frame. Might id up it for

1827
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. They maybe that's a team where they get

1828
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: they get better quicker than people are expecting if they

1829
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: had Julio Jones. And now I think the other team

1830
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: the toughest for cap reasons. But you figure the most

1831
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: logical thing in terms of adding a superstar piece to

1832
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: a team that's come so close over the past couple

1833
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: of years, the Green Day Packers, where maybe you make

1834
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers happy by going out and adding Julio Jones.

1835
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: And if you do trade Rogers after this year, well

1836
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: now you have a bunch of crap space crew it out.

1837
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Now you have the space for Julio Jones with Jordan

1838
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Loves still on a rookiel for a couple of years.

1839
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: So I think that Julie who talks to make sense

1840
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: for the Packers this year and also in the years

1841
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: to come up for all these guys, it's going to

1842
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: time out. What the Falcons are looking for in a

1843
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 1: trade because I know they've asked for a first round pick.

1844
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be tough. Yeah, And the

1845
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: other thing that that you said, they just kind of

1846
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: made me think, like, are there teams out there that

1847
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: really believe a thirty two year old Julio Jones can

1848
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: have the same type of impact there's a twenty seven

1849
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: year old Stefan Diggs. I mean, I got all the

1850
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: respect in the world for the numbers that Jones has

1851
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 1: put up over his career, but you know, injury issues

1852
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: starting to crop up for him age thirty two season,

1853
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, our teams really thinking that way or

1854
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: are we just speculating that they believe he could still

1855
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: have that kind of an impact on a roster. You know,

1856
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a mix, right, You only have to

1857
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: have one team not believes that to get that price

1858
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: tag to work. But I do think that teams are

1859
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: going to look at the Stefan Digs trade, and like

1860
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: you said, you know, that price tag I think would

1861
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 1: be too much Julio Jones. I don't think someone's going

1862
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: to go out there and offer that Juli that Stefan

1863
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: Dick's package or it's a number one plus a couple

1864
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: more small things attached to it. You know, I think

1865
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: that we're probably looking at a two here, maybe a

1866
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: two and a player, maybe a conditional pick that's attached

1867
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: to Julio Jones play as well. But I think the

1868
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Falcons at this point, because they don't have a lot

1869
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: of leverage, I don't I think it's going to be

1870
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,560
Speaker 1: very tough for them to come out of this with

1871
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: a first draft pick. They might get lucky, Okay, all

1872
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: it takes is one team to kind of sit there

1873
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is our guy, and he takes

1874
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 1: us over the top. But I do think you're probably

1875
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: looking at something closer to the DeAndre Hopkins package than

1876
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: the Stefan Dicks deal. Well, as we've known that it's

1877
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback driven league, even though Julio Jones and great

1878
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 1: playmakers on the outside of got a lot of attention

1879
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: that offseason started when we saw Jared Goff and Matthew

1880
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 1: Stafford get traded from the Detroit Lions and then doing

1881
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: the lost La Rams. So there were also five quarterbacks

1882
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: taken in the first round of this draft just a

1883
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: month ago, which one of those It give us a

1884
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: quick rundown of how you think those first seasons are

1885
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna go for each of those five guys. When do

1886
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: they play, if they play, and why they play. And

1887
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: that's a good question, you know, obviously different situations for

1888
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,759
Speaker 1: different guys. And I think you think about Josh Allen situation.

1889
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a guy who you know, we

1890
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: all sort of thought maybe, hey, he will get a

1891
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: few weeks, but it took half a week one, right

1892
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman was struggling in week one, Josh Allen comes in,

1893
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: He's the starter in week two and then has been

1894
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the starter ever since outside of some time with injury.

1895
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 1: And some of these guys, obviously it's going to be

1896
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: his first chance they get. Trevor Lawrence is going to

1897
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: be the week one starter for the Jaguar, Zack Wilson

1898
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 1: the week one starter for the Chest. After that, I

1899
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,759
Speaker 1: think there's some questions. I think you look at justin Field,

1900
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you want him to be

1901
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: the guy immediately, but we've seen him with the mental

1902
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: tribisky situation, with the same organization. They rushed him in

1903
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: pretty quick. I think week four might make sense for

1904
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: him against the Lions, where you get a couple of

1905
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: weeks Week US against the h you know, against the Lions,

1906
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: king of match fans, they plays someone use. I can't

1907
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: think of loose a bunch of after those, the Lions

1908
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: are a week efense. That's where I would start for him,

1909
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 1: and then Trey Lance. I think it comes down to

1910
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo more than anything else. Jimmy Garopolois made it

1911
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: out of September one as a starter or suffer injury,

1912
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: serious injuries, high ankle sprains, separated shoulder, twenty cel A

1913
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 1: guy who has struggled to stay healthy. So to me,

1914
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: I think you'll see Trey Land sometime in September, just

1915
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Garoppolo has struggled to stay on the football field,

1916
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: I think he's going to come in. Whenever Jimmy Garoppolo

1917
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 1: gets hurt, I think it's going to be tough to

1918
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: get him out of the line up at that point.

1919
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: For back Jones, I think there's an obvious sort of

1920
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: landing point here. Maybe I'll start Week one not out

1921
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: of the question, but that Week four game Patriots Buccaneers,

1922
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady returns to Foxborough obviously going to be a

1923
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: circus of a game and I think for the Patriots,

1924
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: you want to keep Mac Jones out of that game.

1925
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: You don't want to invite the Jones Brady comparisons as

1926
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: of yet, will hold him off a week Week five

1927
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: if they're at the Houston, Texas. I mean, that is

1928
01:42:58,280 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 1: a game that you want to get your guy in

1929
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: what's expected to be one of the worst defenses in

1930
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: football on the road. And I think answering Jones is

1931
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: the Week five starter that sort of draws an immediate

1932
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: line from away from the Brady game. It ends the

1933
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 1: Brady story in New England. It's okay, that's the past.

1934
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: The future is now. Mac Jones is our guy. How

1935
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: is he going to play? It immediately ends the conversation

1936
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: about the Tom Brady game, and it's onto Houston and

1937
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: on to Mac Jones. So to me, I think that's

1938
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: the obvious point where you put in Mac Jones and

1939
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 1: you let him sink or so him at the offense

1940
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: they built around him in New England. Yeah, and you

1941
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 1: talk about the New England Patriots, Cam Newton did not

1942
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: play well last year. They struggled to win games. He

1943
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: couldn't throw the football well enough, and they so they

1944
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: draft Mac Jones fifteenth. Overall, he does not have elite

1945
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: physical traits. But what he does have, according to the

1946
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: scouting reports we've heard, is a brain that is an

1947
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: NFL brain, the guy who's he's smart. He can uptake,

1948
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 1: he'll digest the offense, he'll be ready, he can make decisions,

1949
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: he can read the football field, all of that stuff.

1950
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: If mac Jones struggles to get on the field ahead

1951
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: of a week and declining Cam Newton, how big of

1952
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: a concern and how long does that get drawn out

1953
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: before you really start to wonder if mac Jones was

1954
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: a smart pick by the New England Patriots. Yeah, he

1955
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: can't took him sometime, I mean, certainly, I think a

1956
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: couple of years. It's the point for me where I

1957
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: think you get concerned. But even looking look at look

1958
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: at Josh Allen. Keep bring up Josh Allen is an example,

1959
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: because year one Josh Allen was bad. I mean, I know,

1960
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have much around him, just like Can didn't

1961
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: have a year ago, but he was bad. And year

1962
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: two he was much better, but he was still a

1963
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: low average passer. In year three he was one of

1964
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in football. I mean, if you showed

1965
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the tape from his first season. I don't

1966
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: know if he would even recognize Josh Allen from year one,

1967
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 1: given how much improvement he made. So I think that

1968
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: shows you how important this to have the right players

1969
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: around you, to have the right coaching, and to give

1970
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: a guy time. And So to me, I think for

1971
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know they're gonna surround Mac Jones with talent.

1972
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they're done by any means getting talent

1973
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: around Mac Jones over the next couple of years. Um,

1974
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, canvas to have a big cap hit, but

1975
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: we're going to see them create more cap space. We're

1976
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: gonna see them add more on the offensive side of

1977
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: the football. They're going to be in the conversations for

1978
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: every single time a guy like a Julio Jones comes up,

1979
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: or a talented wide receiver like an Alan Robinson. Maybe

1980
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 1: it's free agency, the Patriots are going to be at

1981
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 1: the forefront of those discussions. But I think they're going

1982
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,560
Speaker 1: to keep adding guys around Mac Jones. So to me,

1983
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's gone a plug and play

1984
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: guy that offensive Alabama. He did do some impressive stuff,

1985
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 1: but was playing with superstars at receiver, a lot of RPOs,

1986
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: a lot of easy stuff for him in that offense.

1987
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna take him a little bit of time, but

1988
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: I do think that you know, they're gonna put enough

1989
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: talent around Mac Jones. He's gonna look pretty good by

1990
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: the end of the first as they do get into

1991
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 1: his first season. And I think if it's really maybe

1992
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: two years, I would say, before you even have a

1993
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: conversation to me about whether Mac Jones is your quarterback

1994
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: in the future. So I'm gonna build Barnwell yeh, Senior

1995
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: writer NFL ESPN and Bill, I mean, I know in

1996
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,560
Speaker 1: your rite of you kind of addressed is to a

1997
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: certain extent on in terms of when you fell for

1998
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: round rookie quarterbacks are going to play. But how much

1999
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: of a factor do you believe it is? Because I

2000
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: want to kind of look at this from a different angle,

2001
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: and that being Chicago's head coach and front office Ryan

2002
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: Pace and Matt Nagee. They are desperate to win this year,

2003
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: like right away, it's got to happen. It's not all

2004
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: that different in San Francisco. I think a lot of

2005
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: people might be under the thought that, you know, Lynch

2006
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: and Shanahan are good as gold. They're safe, but the

2007
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: fact remains, they got three losing seasons in four years.

2008
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: I know a lot of last year was due to

2009
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: injury with some important players out of their line up,

2010
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive side of the ball. But those

2011
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: two teams have to win now. So do you think

2012
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: that pushes the quarterbacks onto the field sooner or do

2013
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: you think they buide their time so they don't throw

2014
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: them in the deep end and they sink. I think

2015
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: for fields it does. I think the Bears are really

2016
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: desperate because at least that one season was the Super

2017
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Bowl trip. I think that goes a long way relative Bears,

2018
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: where they haven't won a playoffs game in the Ryan

2019
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: pace that they think the playoffs now twice. One really

2020
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: impressive season last year. I think they were eight and

2021
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: native I'm not mistaken. You know, kind of snuck in

2022
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: at the seventh seed, get blown out, and they gave

2023
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: no one expected them to win against the Saints. You know,

2024
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a little different from Niners, where they,

2025
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, impressive playoff run all the way to the

2026
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning in the fourth quarter. You know, maybe

2027
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: a wood long pass completion from Jimmy Garppolo to manual sciences.

2028
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,560
Speaker 1: They went in the Super Bowl. Perhaps, you know, I

2029
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: think the Niners are in better shape and I think

2030
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 1: that they can be a little more flexible because we

2031
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: do project them to be good this year. I mean,

2032
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 1: they have so much talent around their quarterback that even

2033
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 1: if Groppolo does get hurt, you'd expect them to be eighteen.

2034
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 1: That competes for a playoff spot for the Bears. I mean,

2035
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: it's Justine Fields your butt, like, they don't have the

2036
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 1: same core of talent around their quarterback. Alan Robinson is

2037
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: a franchise tag guy going to be a free agent

2038
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: again next to your very little at receiver in that

2039
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 1: defense expenses some definite talents there. But you know, they've

2040
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: been very aggressive with movement, have not necessarily worked out

2041
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 1: on some cases. The culm At trade obviously a superstar talent,

2042
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: and know a lot of people in Buffalo have a

2043
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: soft spot for him and it's a great player, but

2044
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: they have not been able to do much around him

2045
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 1: on that defense. And it's good, but it's not you know,

2046
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: the sort of top three, top four defensive was in

2047
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight team and if Fangio was there so I

2048
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: think for them. You know, if Justin Fields does not

2049
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 1: impress this year, I do think there would be a

2050
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: regime change in Chicago. But if Trey Lance doesn't have

2051
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 1: to get on the field this year, if Jimmy Garoppolo

2052
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: plays well, and the Liners are a playoff team, I

2053
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: think they'll be just fine. And sent franc Bookca, Well,

2054
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: let's bring it back to the AFC East and when

2055
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: you talk about the free agent market that happened here

2056
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: this past March and April, did the New England Patriots

2057
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: do enough to make Cam Newton passable as a quarterback?

2058
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: Or did? I mean? We were kind of as free

2059
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: agency wore down with the new cap numbers, it looked

2060
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: as though the New England Patriots went out and went

2061
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: on a spending spree like they were in a race

2062
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: to get it done, and a market that really didn't

2063
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 1: look all that you know, all that hectic for the

2064
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 1: other teams in the NFL. Talk to us a little

2065
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: bit about the New England Patriots and their free agent class. Yeah,

2066
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 1: it was funny because for so many years the Patriots

2067
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: have been seen as kind of like the wise team,

2068
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: you know, right, They're not desperate, they're in the pocket.

2069
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: They have Tom Brady. They can do whatever they want,

2070
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 1: and they're going to be very selective. They do go

2071
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: out and sign a stuff on Gilmore works out very

2072
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: well for them. Of course that bill is doing just

2073
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 1: five Ward Davias White. But you know they can kind

2074
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 1: of pick and choose when they wanted to go after players.

2075
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: And then we get to this year and they do

2076
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. The first day of free age. It's

2077
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: a year after year is where teams think mistake after mistake.

2078
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: It's the worst place to shop. It's like shopping for

2079
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts on Christmas Eve. You know, it is the

2080
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: prices of the highest and everyone knows you're desperate. You're

2081
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 1: never going to get a good deal. But the Patriots

2082
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: are out and they sign a ton of guys on

2083
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: the first day and a half of free agencaying it

2084
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 1: look at a lot of the contracts for those guys,

2085
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: major question marks. Nol fanaticalore, a guy who was a

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: solid receiver, some drop issues, but impressive as a downfield

2087
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: weapon for the Raiders last year. But a guy who's

2088
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: thinking the minimum, you know, got really two years and

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Speaker 1: I think almost twenty million dollars I'll think twenty million

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01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 1: dollars well together in terms of the practical guarantees, world

2091
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 1: be tough for them to cut him after two seasons.

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01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Every one season in a market where wide receivers like

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01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: well four were putting ten million dollars a year. I mean,

2094
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 1: guys were not getting you know, that sort of money typically.

2095
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: So I think the Patriots made some moves that made

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01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: them better, but also paid premium prices for those moves,

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01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: and that's going to cost them because when you pay

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01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: good prices for players, you end up with having somebody

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01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: left over where that might get you that last little

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01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: piece that puts you over the top. But if you're

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01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 1: overpaying the odds and you're paying premiums for guys, well

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: you can't go out in time that guy over three

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01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 1: or four million dollars when he comes free at the

2104
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: end of camp, and who might you know, swing in

2105
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: the game for you when it comes to the postseasons

2106
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: looked like a twelve Sugs maybe a couple of years

2107
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: ago for the Chiefs, or as Steve McClendon for the

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01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: Bucks this year. You know, you sort of want to

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: have that money left over to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: build a spot in case something pops up and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots aren't going to have that money this year. So

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Speaker 1: I think that it's uh, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: real cheam of what the Patriots typically do, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have to see whether it's a move that worked out

2115
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Speaker 1: for the benefical. Talking to Bill Barnwell, ESPN dot Com,

2116
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Speaker 1: senior NFL writer and the write of that, you put

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Speaker 1: together Bill with trade offers seven NFL teams proposals ranked

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: least appealing to most attractive. I mean, not surprisingly. I

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Speaker 1: think you've got Denver at the top of the list,

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01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense. The one area where

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01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 1: I think it could be a fly in the ointment

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01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: is providing green Bay with a definitive answer at quarterback,

2123
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: because you know in your proposal you have Drew Locke

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01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: going back to green Bay. Now, my first question is

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01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: are you under the auspices of Drew Locke competing with

2126
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Love or Jordan Love? Here we go, the Jordan

2127
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: Love project starts in twenty twenty one, because your answer

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01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: to that will lead me to campaign for the Washington

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01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: football team trade which includes Ryan Fitzpatrick, which is a

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01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 1: far better bridge an area as I see it, anyway

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01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 1: to get twenty two. Just your thoughts on those two deals.

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01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 1: I think it's totally fair because I think we don't know.

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01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly I don't know. I mean, the

2134
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: Packers know best about how they feel about Jordan Love.

2135
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear when they traded up the draft

2136
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, they thought he was going to be their

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01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in the future. Now, they didn't trade for him

2138
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: saying it's going to be a particular year, but they

2139
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: made that trade because they were expecting him to be

2140
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: the guy who took over for Aaron Rodgers. Now, we

2141
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 1: didn't see Jordan Love to take a single stap last year.

2142
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 1: I think he's the only quarterback draft in the first

2143
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 1: round over the past fifteen years or so who has

2144
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 1: not taken a snap, even a single stap his rookie season,

2145
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: which is a major surprise. So now, is Jordan Love

2146
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 1: were ready to take over? I don't know. I mean

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01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: the Packers I've seen it in practice. We've seen him

2148
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 1: a little bit in the preseason. But I don't think

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01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 1: any of us have any idea to a greater extent

2150
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 1: than Brian good cuts about la Floor do about Jordan

2151
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Love's progress behind closed doors for me, I would not

2152
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 1: expect him to be lady to play at high level

2153
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 1: this year because some have those reps. Yet I'd want

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01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 1: to see him get at least some reps with the

2155
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 1: one on, you know, in practice and certainly during the

2156
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 1: season before I made that move on a full time basis.

2157
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 1: Even the Patrick Mahome is getting that one start in

2158
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Week seventeen for the Chiefs his rookie season probably you know,

2159
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: made them feel a little better about making the Alex

2160
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: Smith trade that following off season. But I think to

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01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: your point, the Washington football team can make a very

2162
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: viable trade for Aaron Rodgers and justify that deal. And

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01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: I think that for the Packers, you know, the Broncos trade,

2164
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: which I think give you more in terms of valuable

2165
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Speaker 1: players coming back, where you get a Tim Patrick back,

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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: you get a Patrick's or Tan back. It might be

2167
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: a Week one starter if you would cornerback, which is

2168
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: a week spot last year across from Jerie Alexander. But

2169
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: if you want to just get the most draft capital,

2170
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: I think the Washington trade can make sense. Ryan fit

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01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: Patrick's played at a high level the past couple of years.

2172
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I absolutely see him being a better quarterback in twenty

2173
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: twenty one. If you're going to love in twenty twenty two,

2174
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 1: all right, last one for me? I guess I gotta

2175
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 1: ask you how and win does it in? For Aaron

2176
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 1: Rodgers in Green Bay? I think he plays out this year.

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01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I you know, can he really

2178
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: dislike the organization so much that he's going to leave

2179
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: a team that's made it to the NFC Championship Game

2180
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: twice in two years and you know, retire to go

2181
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: host Jeopardy and repaint the Packers thirty million dollars? I

2182
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: just don't buy that. I just don't think he hates

2183
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: them quite that much. Maybe he does, he knows he's

2184
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's him and it's

2185
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: his choice, and he's made a lot of money and

2186
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 1: has every right to want to play where he wants

2187
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: to play. But you know, would you rather go to Denver?

2188
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: Would you rather go to Las Vegas and try to

2189
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 1: win with those teams over the last three or four

2190
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: years of your career? I just think you know, it

2191
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: makes musis to give it one more shot at the Packers.

2192
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: Then next year when the cat makes sense, when you're

2193
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: in a better position, when everything's kind of in an

2194
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: easier spot, then go ahead and make an Aaron Rodgers

2195
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: treat so to mean, I think he's he's there starter

2196
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, but Jordan wils Is to start

2197
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: a week one of twenty twenty two. We've heard that

2198
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a calculator like nobody else. I mean,

2199
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: he a lot of times is the smartest guy in

2200
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: the room, no matter who's sitting there, and he would

2201
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: be the kind of guy that would be smart enough

2202
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: to start laying groundworth maybe a year or two in

2203
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 1: advance of forcing his way out. Is this maybe part

2204
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 1: of his plan by Rogers to make sure he is

2205
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: gone in twenty twenty two. Yeah, I think it's probably

2206
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: trying to push the envelope, right. I mean, there's a

2207
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of ways that could, you know, benefit Aaron Rodgers.

2208
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets a new contract and he gets that security. Okay,

2209
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the guy for three or four

2210
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: more years and the Jordan love plan is over. Or

2211
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: maybe it pushes the packers tickle out and coat and

2212
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: rate for Julio Jones. And I think that all in

2213
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: moves that they haven't made over the past couple of years.

2214
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: I think from Aaron Rodgers' perspective, you know, he kind

2215
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: of sees it as well. I have the public on

2216
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: my side, and I have you know, I just was

2217
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 1: the MVP. I've played at the high level. I did

2218
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 1: my job, so let me push for the rest of

2219
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 1: the organization to hold a bare end of the bargain.

2220
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, it could end positively

2221
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay without happy to get treated.

2222
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: But I think the pastors now have to respond to

2223
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: that and sort of give into what Rogers looking for whatever.

2224
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: That is just one of the more interesting storylines for

2225
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 1: Bill and everybody else to keep track during the so

2226
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 1: called offseason. Bill, thanks for the time. As always, we

2227
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll keep an eye out on what you

2228
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 1: got coming on ESPN dot com. We appreciate it. Awesome.

2229
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, guys. Thanks right. Bill Barnwell, senior NFL

2230
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: writer for ESPN dot Com, does a lot of analysis

2231
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: of what could be coming down the pike. Some of

2232
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: his trade proposals were really interesting for Aaron Rodgers, and

2233
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the Washington one really piqued my interest. I think it

2234
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 1: was like three first round picks Ryan Fitzpatrick in a

2235
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackle matt Ionidis, the veteran. So that one got

2236
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: me interested because I said to myself, I said, wow,

2237
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I hadn't thought about with

2238
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: this whole Aaron Rodgers conversation was who the heck is

2239
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 1: green Bay getting to play quarterback after you ship him off,

2240
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 1: which could easily lead you to what Bill's conclusion is,

2241
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: which he's gonna play in Green Bay in twenty twenty one.

2242
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: They're not gonna leave the coboard bear, especially if they

2243
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: don't think Jordan's Love is ready. So if you're gonna

2244
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: move him because it's untenable and you're worried about him

2245
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: just sitting out the year, well then yeah, trade him

2246
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 1: to a team that can at least give you someone

2247
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: that can serve as a bridge quarterback to get to

2248
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love in twenty twenty two. And Fitz would be

2249
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: a good option. And it's it's next level thinking to

2250
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: for you construe a scenario where Aaron Rodgers is way

2251
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 1: out in front of the said, listen, I'm gonna here's

2252
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I'm gonna express my discontent publicly, or

2253
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: at least let it leak out that how discontented I am.

2254
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: So that the Green Bay Packers have to do one

2255
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: of two things. Either get rid of me, send me

2256
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,839
Speaker 1: to a place of my choosing, or it's just someplace

2257
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: else where I can command a different contract or a

2258
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: better contract, or be get me some help on the

2259
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: offensive side, get me a make a move. So here

2260
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 1: when I'm thirty six years old or thirty eight years old,

2261
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to sit here and flop around on

2262
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 1: the field throwing to one guy all the time. So

2263
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: we can get over this hump of the NFC Championship game,

2264
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 1: which I play an MVP level, and we can get there.

2265
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: Nobody can help me to get past the hump, So

2266
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: it's next level thinking to put that on Aaron Rodgers.

2267
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: He's thinking like trying to get out ahead of it

2268
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: and laying out the plan for twenty twenty two for

2269
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: his own career and the Packers. But that's what would

2270
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: happen if I think this is what he would do.

2271
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: If that were the case, it's gonna be interesting to

2272
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: see where it goes. For sure, we're gonna take a

2273
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: break here. Dan in Florida, Dave and Rochester barrying Buffalo,

2274
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: hang tight, You've been real patient waiting for us. As

2275
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about the athletes you found it easy is

2276
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: to root for and why we will get to your

2277
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 1: phone calls in the next segment. Here on One Bill's Live,

2278
01:58:54,560 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: presented by Colloid to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio Acome

2279
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 1: after One Bills Live talking about the athlete that you

2280
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 1: found it easiest to root for. In the wake of

2281
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 1: the support, the widespread support for Phil Mickelson in his

2282
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 1: run to the PGA Championship yesterday, it was a tsunami

2283
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: of support not only after course in the gallery but

2284
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: all over social media and everything. People were going to

2285
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: gaga for Lefty. So kind of sparked us to ask

2286
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: what was the athlete that you found it easiest to

2287
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: root for and why we go to the phones waiting patiently.

2288
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: There is Dan in Florida. Dan, what do you have

2289
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: for us here on One Bill's Live. Thanks for waiting. Hi, guys,

2290
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. The gentleman that I'd like

2291
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: to talk about take it back to my early days

2292
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: when I was a young man in the mid sixties

2293
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: and you had him on the show a while back. Chris. Yeah,

2294
01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 1: his name is Butch Berd yep. And reason why Hi,

2295
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: it's a personal reason. For a very short period of time.

2296
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Butch worked with my father at a place called Kenmore

2297
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Chrysler on the quarter of Delaware and Hurdle right now.

2298
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: I believe there's a Burger king there. But we lived

2299
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: real close to where my dad worked, and we walked

2300
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 1: home from school. On occasion we stopped by and say

2301
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: hi to Dad well on our way. On this one

2302
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: particular day, we opened up the office store and there

2303
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 1: was a Butch burn. Of course, my brother and I

2304
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 1: we were very excited. We got to a point where

2305
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 1: every day we stopped by after school and say hi

2306
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 1: to Butch. And it got to a point where my

2307
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: dad actually said, look at guys, mister Burds trying to

2308
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: sell some cars. So we kind of had to slow

2309
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 1: that down a little bit. But he was a hero.

2310
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I just you know, every time from that

2311
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: point out when we watched Butch play on TV, he

2312
02:00:56,600 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 1: didn't disappoint. He seemed to always get an interception, and

2313
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 1: as you've mentioned on your show, I believe he's the

2314
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: all time leader and interceptions for touchdowns from the Buffalo Bills.

2315
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 1: And I'd just like to reiterate the notion that you said,

2316
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: and Mandy Glad said that maybe he should be a

2317
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 1: possible Kennedy for the the Wall of Fame. He was

2318
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 1: a great athlete, but also he was a real gentleman,

2319
02:01:22,840 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: a real gentleman. Yeah. And he's talking about a time too, Steve,

2320
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: that you've referenced on the show before, when players had

2321
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: to have offseason jobs. Yeah, when there he is selling cards.

2322
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: Nobody was getting delaware and nobody was getting rich doing it.

2323
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 1: And that's just that's the way it was. I played

2324
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 1: with some guys who were the old timers when I

2325
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 1: first came in the league, were guys who had done

2326
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 1: that early in their career, the old timers, and it

2327
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: was a commonplace back then. So yeah, things changed, no

2328
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: question about it. Now it's every sport in this country

2329
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 1: has gotten to that point where it's it's so far

2330
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: advanced from where it was back in the when it began,

2331
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 1: it's it's almost unrecorded. He's still the all time team

2332
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 1: leader in interceptions with forty two I believe he had

2333
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 1: in his career. Did you see what happened what was

2334
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 1: announced out of New Jersey today for MetLife Stadium? Once

2335
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 1: you in former viewers. This is exciting news. MetLife Stadium said,

2336
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:21,120
Speaker 1: we're very excited with Governor Murphy, governor New Jersey his

2337
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 1: announcement today that will allow events at their stadium to

2338
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: return to full capacity as of May twenty eighth, So

2339
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 1: that will obviously include the Jets and Giants home schedules

2340
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 1: for this coming fall. So full capacity as of May

2341
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 1: twenty eighth for any and all events at MetLife Stadium,

2342
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 1: which explodes a lot of college graduations down there. Seeing

2343
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Paul Berkeley College, they have graduations. I'm reading as well

2344
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: that none of these announcements lifting mask requirements or having

2345
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: full capacity says anything about fully vaccinated or negative tests.

2346
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 1: It just sounds like they lifted all the restrictions. Well

2347
02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 1: it's saying game day fan protocols will be communication at

2348
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: a later time for the Giants and Jets, So we'll

2349
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: have to wait and see on that. But full capacity

2350
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 1: is something two is a phrase we haven't really heard

2351
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 1: in a long time. Yeah, full capacity is different than

2352
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 1: slicing the stadium up into vaccinated unvaccinated and getting a

2353
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: test and confirming the test and paying for the test

2354
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: yourself and doing all that other stuff. Wow, it's well

2355
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 1: we're getting closer. Yeah, so certainly a good sign going forward.

2356
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 1: Back to the phones though, where people are waiting, Dave

2357
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 1: and Rochester, Dave, what do you got for us? Hey, guys.

2358
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm a two sport fan NBA and the NFL and

2359
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 1: a lifetime fan of the Buffalo Bills, and I can

2360
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: think of two athletes that fall into the mold of

2361
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: the underdogs that I always rooted for. And they weren't

2362
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 1: the lead athletes. They didn't have the thirty six or

2363
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: forty inch vertical lead, they didn't run a four three forty,

2364
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: but they had the intangibles. They had a high rate

2365
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 1: of execution, they were mart they had guts, and it

2366
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: always seemed like they were the one guy who either

2367
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: put the dagger in or made those two plays that

2368
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: absolutely made the difference in the game that I always

2369
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 1: rooted for. It was Steve Kurve the Chicago Bulls and

2370
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker of the Buffalo Bills. No, there you go,

2371
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 1: double Steve, love them guys, They're great. There we go. Well,

2372
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm honored to be mentioned with Steve Kurry. He's a

2373
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 1: head coach of the of the Warriors right now and

2374
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: has been through a bunch of world championships. So yeah,

2375
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 1: that's I'm very flattered. Thank you. That's nice. Yes, both

2376
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 1: of you guys had a lot of smarts. I loved

2377
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: watching you guys play. And you know the other thing too,

2378
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: as I don't think it's been mentioned yet, is it's

2379
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 1: not just the stuff that happens on the field. It's

2380
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: it's the stuff that happens in the practices, the clubhouse,

2381
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 1: the dedication, all that stuff that people don't realize. I mean,

2382
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: I played both sports. People don't realize how much that

2383
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 1: count towards what happens on the field or on the court.

2384
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, Yeah, thank you. David. To let me

2385
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 1: jokingly say, thank you for lumping me in with the

2386
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 1: non athletic, ungifted people. News flash, Steve was fast, by

2387
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: the way. By the way, you were a little short

2388
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: in the size department. But by the way, I did

2389
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: run a four three and I can't. I used to

2390
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: be able to slam duck a basketball two hands behind. Yeah,

2391
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 1: because what was your what was your vertical? I don't know.

2392
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: I had to be over thirty six. Oh yeah, I

2393
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 1: think it was like thirty eight or something, but yeah

2394
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: I could. Yes, so I wasn't completely you were fast

2395
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 1: and you had a hot so you know your frame

2396
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 1: was was conmensated by tremendous explosion. Yes you can. You

2397
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: can make a case for the you know, not too

2398
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: smart qualification. Steve cur though, was not super athletic, but

2399
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 1: he would shoot the lights out and he was a

2400
02:05:57,640 --> 02:05:59,880
Speaker 1: heady player who knew where to cut, got to spot,

2401
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 1: and you know, gave you everything he had on the

2402
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And the story that rings

2403
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: in my head when somebody mentions him is what was

2404
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,160
Speaker 1: mentioned in the last Dance series with Michael Jordan. They

2405
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 1: talked about a practice where Jordan just was getting frustrated

2406
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: and whatever, and his hyper competitive nature took over and

2407
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: he cold cocked Steve Kerr right in the chest, like

2408
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: just straight right hand cracked him in the chest and

2409
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:34,839
Speaker 1: knocked him on the ground and people just stopped. Everything stopped,

2410
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 1: and they looked like, what's Kerr gonna do? Like, because

2411
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 1: Jordan's the alpha male and everybody count out to him

2412
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 1: and made him know you're the guy. Kerr got up

2413
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 1: and just started scrapping with him, right, and Jordan talks

2414
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 1: about He's like that guy has my respect, and he

2415
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 1: did after that for like, we're good. Yeah, Like I

2416
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: know you're not going to back down when I need

2417
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: you in a game based on what you just did

2418
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: there coming after me. The thing I remember at Steve

2419
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:08,240
Speaker 1: Kerr was when he was a playing in collegiate football

2420
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: or collegiate basketball, of course, and while he was playing

2421
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 1: his collegiate career, his father was a military general and

2422
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: was assassinated while Steve was playing college basketball. And it

2423
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 1: happened during the season. Steve played in a game a

2424
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: day or two after that, and you gotta think about

2425
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 1: your dad. Now, his dad was a big dude, I mean,

2426
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: an important military figure at that time in the American

2427
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: military in combat, you know, in operations. It wasn't like

2428
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:47,919
Speaker 1: he was a guy sitting at a desk in Washington,

2429
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,760
Speaker 1: and his dad was a very important guy the way

2430
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 1: I understand it. And he was assassinated because he was

2431
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:56,720
Speaker 1: doing a good job by the enemy. And so that

2432
02:07:56,960 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 1: story got out and Steve was on the court a

2433
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 1: day or two later, and I'll never forget he you know,

2434
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 1: they played for a minute or so and the first

2435
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 1: three of the game was taken by Steve Kerr and

2436
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: he drilled it. Yeah, it was quite a moment. First

2437
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 1: mental to that tells you the kind of guy that

2438
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,840
Speaker 1: would stand up to a Michael Jordan when he takes

2439
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 1: a shot at you. It's pretty that's pretty big. Yeah,

2440
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty big. So that thanks for putting me in

2441
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 1: that category. Yeah, let's go back to the phones and

2442
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 1: we go to Barry and Buffalo. Another guy who's been

2443
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 1: waiting a while. Barry, thanks for waiting. What do you

2444
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: have for us? All right? All right, gentlemen, how are

2445
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:37,320
Speaker 1: you guys doing it? Doing great? Okay? This is Barry

2446
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:42,839
Speaker 1: him Larry Okay, not Barry okay. On point to Stee's

2447
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:46,800
Speaker 1: about the cable, I remember five bucks a month when

2448
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 1: w R and w P i X stayed on all night.

2449
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm living in Buffalo. I said, I liked this, I'll

2450
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:55,960
Speaker 1: pay for it. But anyway, the player that I liked

2451
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 1: the most as the underdog is a good friend of mine,

2452
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, and the reason why. I remember the college

2453
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 1: All Star game and I watched him playing and he

2454
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 1: ran over everybody. I said, who is his? Thurwin Thomas kid?

2455
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: You know? And then I wanted I found out the

2456
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:15,879
Speaker 1: Bills drafted him. I said, the Bills got a football

2457
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 1: player here, and number two is I said, the reason

2458
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:22,960
Speaker 1: why I liked this guy because that's the guy that

2459
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 1: kept Barry Sandens on the bench at Oklahoma State. So

2460
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, that's he's he's my underdog guy, and I'm

2461
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:34,600
Speaker 1: glad he made it. Take Kid Fellas, Yes, Thurman did

2462
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 1: make it. I'm glad he made it. It might changing

2463
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 1: his talent a little bit there, but I get you

2464
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:44,160
Speaker 1: the second round pick. So I people, you know, Thurman

2465
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 1: carved up twelve thirteen year career out of using that

2466
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: as fuel. I mean, whenever a day got hard, I'm

2467
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 1: sure he reminded himself, Hey, somebody thought you were only

2468
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 1: good enough to be a second round pick or the

2469
02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: rest of the league did. Thurman had a chip on

2470
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: his shoulder the size the stadium, and and it was

2471
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: he played like that and it got him to the

2472
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And he was the only guy at

2473
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: that time, the only guy in history to lead the

2474
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:17,120
Speaker 1: league and yard yards from scrimmage for four straight years season.

2475
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 1: How many guys are doing that now? Yeah, he's just

2476
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: he's phenomenal and I and I don't do it anymore,

2477
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 1: but I used to. You know, I got VHS tapes

2478
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: of games right now, I can't. I don't even have

2479
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: any way to play them now, right And I would

2480
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 1: go back and while you'd get on a StairMaster or

2481
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 1: something or on an elliptical machine to work out for

2482
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, you put on old games or

2483
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 1: whatever just for kicks and giggles. You know, I forgot

2484
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 1: what a monster. He was just a monster. He was

2485
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:48,800
Speaker 1: taking a beating too. I mean he was carrying the

2486
02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 1: ball up inside and we was getting knocked around and

2487
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 1: beat up and tackled hard with guy. It was a

2488
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 1: different league than a little more physical. It wasn't like

2489
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: it was in the sixties and seventies. But man, oh man,

2490
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 1: the dudes were huge and he was getting rocked and

2491
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 1: he just kept on going. I mean, they and he was.

2492
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,240
Speaker 1: His ability to be there on the field every Sunday

2493
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:13,240
Speaker 1: and produce every every week was the engine that made

2494
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 1: that team successful. He was just and I don't know,

2495
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 1: he was just a monster, really impossible to stop. Could

2496
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,879
Speaker 1: do everything. It was like a five tool player in baseball.

2497
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,760
Speaker 1: Thurman was a three tool player four tool player in football.

2498
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 1: He could run, you could catch, you could run routes,

2499
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 1: he could line up outsideline up inside. He could pass,

2500
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: protect you could you could do everything, You could do everything,

2501
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 1: all right. Unfortunately we're out of time for the rest

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Speaker 1: of you holding there. We're sorry we didn't get to you.

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Speaker 1: But some good choices there as well. Joe Ferguson, Jim Abbott,

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Speaker 1: Jim Craig, the goaltender from the nineteen eighty Olympic team,

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Speaker 1: Jim Abbott, the guy who had a deformity with one

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Speaker 1: of his hands and had to put the glove and

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Speaker 1: throw with one hand. He was a pitcher one unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And Jack Kemp. Good choices everybody. Sorry we couldn't get

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Speaker 1: to you all. Steve and I to wrap it up

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned? Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We learned today that MetLife Stadium will

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Speaker 1: allow the Jets and Giants to have full capacity at

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Speaker 1: their games this fall, and just released, the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: are announcing the same thing at Bank of America Stadium

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte, they too, will have full capacity for the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers season, and masks are not required. They are

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Speaker 1: optional down there at Bank of America Stadium this fall

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Speaker 1: who want to use them proof of vaccination will not

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Speaker 1: even be required to attend either down there at Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very interesting to see as more

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Speaker 1: of these stadiums come online to full capacity, how the

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Speaker 1: mask mandates are going to think for and and maybe

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Speaker 1: based on state guidelines more than anything they figured. They're

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Speaker 1: probably figured, listen, if you've got the you've got, everybody

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Speaker 1: can get a vaccinated down if they want or by

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Speaker 1: then everybody will have had the chance to be vaccinating.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want it, you're not gonna get it,

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Speaker 1: and it's on you. Yeah, right, basically enter at your

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Speaker 1: own risk. Yeah kind of thing. See you later, come

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Speaker 1: on in and I'm he's moving in the right direction though,

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Speaker 1: back towards normal. Well, we saw a football. We saw

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Speaker 1: it in our in our topic of the day, Phil

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Speaker 1: mckinson winning the PGA Championship yesterday, a big major golf tournament.

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Speaker 1: There were fans everywhere in South Carolina. They were crushed together.

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Speaker 1: Nobody more in masks outdoor, of course, but it was

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Speaker 1: just like the old days. Before the pandemic, nobody had

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Speaker 1: any thought about being close to anybody else. Nobody wore

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Speaker 1: a mask, and they were. It was It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was as good a golf atmospheres I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: outside of a rider cut. It was fantastic and good

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Speaker 1: for that, and I hope, I hope it turns out

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Speaker 1: that just another day at the golf course for everybody.

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Speaker 1: We will be jam packed with Bill's coverage tomorrow as

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Speaker 1: OTAs continue out here at One Bills Live. We'll coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott set to address the media late tomorrow morning. We'll

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Speaker 1: bring you the highlights from that exchange. We'll also hear

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Speaker 1: from Josh Allen, Tremade Edmonds, and we'll have undrafted rookie

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Speaker 1: tight end Quintin Morris joining us after they are off

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Speaker 1: the practice field. An interesting prospect from the Mid American Conference.

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Speaker 1: All of that coming your way tomorrow on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition of One Bills Live. Steve and I'll see you

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Speaker 1: that