1 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Hamberg Territory Podcast. It's 2 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: episode one nine two. My name is Brad Roland. It 3 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: is Sunday, May fourth, and I am joined not by 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Scott Coleman, who quit on us tonight, just got something 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: else to do. I don't know what Scott is doing 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: these gallivants in the world. We told you that earlier 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: this week. But I'm joined by Dare I say an 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: upgrade on the podcast? Hope, Scott, here's this. Steven Tolbert 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: is here. Hello, Sarah, how are you? 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Brad? What's up buddy? It was a very it was 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: a very important last like ten minutes that we just 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: experienced because yes, and we're both talking about this on Twitter, 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: had that innting gone differently for rosso glaz we're literally 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: recording this immediately after the Braves win on Sunday Night Baseball. 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: If that inting had gone to differently, this podcast would 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: have gone very differently. But three strikeouts got the win 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: salvage of the series. It's going to be a much 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: more upbeat, much more energy, much more positive podcast because 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: had they been swept. 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair to say. And I know you and 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Sean did this and Scott and I did this like, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: you know, no one wants to even lose a series. 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: You know, the Braves series series winning streak is over. 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: They won four series in a row. They lost this 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: series of the Dodgers. I think we even I'm not 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: sure if it was exactly this, but it was like, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: just don't get swept. Kind of was kind of my 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: thought going into the series, to be honest, like, you know, 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: you want to win it, but losing a series of 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: the Dodgers is not a disastrous outcome. What you don't 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: want to do is give three games back, and they 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: were teetering today. Also, it would have been particularly brutal, 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: as we'll get into it more detail in a second, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: had they blowed a four dozing lead after not scoring 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: again in the last six innings of the game. All 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: these little things that could have happened along the way. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: But they hold on and we'll get into that in 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: detail in a moment. If you're due to the podcast, 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: we should also stay at the top of the show. 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: We were part of foul Territory. We were Hammer Territory. 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: We cover with Braves all year round. There are four 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: main hosts on this feed, myself and Steven as well 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: as Scott Coleman and Sean Coleman, who are not related 44 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: but basically are related in our minds. Please subscribe to 45 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: the podcast like Rates Review all that fun stuff. But actually, Steven, 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: you and Sean did a show on Friday Night, which 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: is our most recent show, talking about a pre desolatory 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: game they just couldn't score on Friday Night. I don't 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: have much to add to that one. If you want 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: to listen to that breakdown in more depth, go ahead 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and listen to that podcast. I recommendle's listen to all 52 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the podcasts. So that's one we will talk about Saturday, 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: which is not the most fun result, but because they won, 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: let's hold Saturday for a minute. If that's okay with you. 55 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Are you okay starting with the positive on this next Stephen. 56 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Yes, After the last podcast Sean and I did, let's 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: talk about a win for a minute. 58 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. So look. Grant McCauley, our colleague, covers the show 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: before he had this hit this stat earlier the day 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: on Sunday that was the Braaveers and Dodgers have been 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: playing each other since eighteen ninety, so one hundred thirty 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: five years of head to head action, and they had 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: the brains had never been swept in the entire season 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: series by the Dodgers, and that street continues, I wrote 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: on the notes, just because we needed it in either direction, 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: but that that's they did not have that happen to 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: them today, which is a positive. It is a win, 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: it was not always a pretty win. It is four 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: to three. In fact, all four runs once you start here, 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: all four runs scored on two swings of the bat 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: from Austin Riley, who was obviously the star of the game. 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Austin I've been playing all that well recently actually pulled 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: this number like he came into this game in the 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: previous fifteen games with a six seventy three ops with 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: twenty three strikeouts, striking on a lot, not walking a lot, 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: but two big swings against a quality starter in Dustin May. 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: And thank god because the Braves didn't score again after that, 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: so Austin Riley typically got to you. 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously it ended up being the only 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: runs they scored in the game, so obviously two swings 81 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: that literally won the game. I made the joke on 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: Twitter that he must have thought Dustin's last name was June. Yeah, 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Austin's been struggling, like that's fair to say, 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: like he's had a really weird season. Actually, he's got 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: off to that horrendous start, then he got a red hot. 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: I remember he had those that two home game in Toronto, 87 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: and for like the next like seven games he looked 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: like vintage Austin Riley, and then it went south on 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: him again. The strikeouts have been pulling up like crazy. 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: At one point he was on pace for like two 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: hundred and forty strikeouts for the season, which is an 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: insane number for anyone, but especially him, who's never even 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: come close to that. So it's been a weird season. 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: I think even Austin would tell you, you know, strikeouts are 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: way up, walks are down. His battle ball stuff still 96 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: looks great, so there's still something to lean on. And 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: obviously tonight you saw you put the barrel on two 98 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: pitches and hit him both four hundred plus feet. Credit 99 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: to Alex Rodugo for getting on base both times in 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: front of those. You know, the Braves have been hitting 101 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: a ton of solo homers, you know, well they haven't 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: been hit a lot of homers overall, but when they 103 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: do hit him, they've been a lot of them have 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: been solo shots, and so Verdugo was on base twice, 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: got four runs out of two swings, and yeah, that 106 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: was enough to win it. 107 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: It was And you know, Austin's power has been there, 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: your your hundred scent, right, it's been. There has been 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: two hot streaks, basically, it's like tonight's game, and there 110 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: was the one mini high streak a little while ago, 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: and it's kind of led you to some He has 112 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: credible overall numbers, like his ops over one hundred for 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: the season, like it looks finish eight home runs, but 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: it has been a little bit uneven, and you know, 115 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: the Braves needed him to be good, and he obviously 116 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: has been at times. This is his eighth career multi 117 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: home run game and they needed all four of those runs. Obviously, 118 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: he's the star of that night. We'll come back to 119 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: the other standout in Bryce Elder in a second. The 120 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Braves should have added on probably a couple times offensively 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: without you know, they didn't score in the last five 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: trips of the plate. They did have eight hits, two walks. 123 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: It was like a totally zero outing offensively. In the 124 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: third Matt also had one of his I would say 125 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: nightly absolute rockets. That was an out a one hundred 126 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: and fourteen mile an hour missile. And actually uh CJ. Nikowski, 127 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: who does of course analysts work for fam To Sports Network, 128 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: had this stat The Bravest now have three more outs 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: of at least one hundred and ten miles per hour 130 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: than any team in baseball. So they just are the 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: only they have eleven and that's supposed to team at eight. 132 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Having eleven home eleven outs with that are hit that 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: hard is like kind of hard to do. They happen sometimes, 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: like it's not like totally outlier, but people I know 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that don't like when we 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: bring up the exit velocity all the stick. It's we're 137 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: not trying to be like super duper duper that way, 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: but it does matter when you hit the ball hard. 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: And in particular also, I feel like it's been like 140 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: really unlucky this year and a lot of numbers bear 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: that out. And that was just one of those examples 142 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: because that falls in somewhere they probably scy probably score 143 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: another run in that inning and that might have led 144 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: to some more cushion and an easier win. 145 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, people get mad at me too when I mentioned 146 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: this stuff on Twitter, and I don't understand, Like it's 147 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: there is a very very clear, proven correlation between hitting 148 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: the ball hard and having offensive success, Like it's just proven, 149 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: and so like we talk about this stuff not it's 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: not just a made up It's like it's like pitchers 151 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: who throw hard, Like there's a correlation between throwing hard 152 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: and getting strikeouts and swings the miss like it matters. 153 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: So when a guy is hitting the ball as hard 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: as he's hit all year, that matters. And that's part 155 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: of the you know, that's part of the context. And 156 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: you know process at this point, when it's still so 157 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: early in the season, process probably matters more than results 158 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: at this point. So yeah, I mean it, it's notable. 159 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: You know, I saw that note but CJ that they 160 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: had so many outs one hundred and ten miles an 161 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: hour more. I guarantee you, like more than half of 162 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: those are Matt Olson. First of all, to hit a 163 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: ball that hard, not everyone can do that. Second of all, 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: he's been I mean, his expected numbers are eighty points 165 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: higher than his actual numbers at the moment. So and 166 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't just him, like Vidugo had to line out 167 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: to left field. Confordo made a couple of nice plays. 168 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin had to line out to left field. They 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: had I mean, their process was much much better tonight. 170 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: I know they only scored four, I know they stopped scoring, 171 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: but on process, I was much happier with the ad 172 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: bats than anything we saw in the previous three games 173 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: where they lost two to one, two to one, ten 174 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: to three. The process tonight was substantially better. 175 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: I agree for sure. And obviously the Riley home runs 176 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: paper over it, but it's it's kind of funny Olsen 177 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: goes over four tonight, so it's like, oh, yeah, this 178 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: bad game. That's not really indicative of what it is. 179 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: And to the backyard, I just pulled up Matt's stackcast page. 180 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: He is currently in the ninety fourth percentile or higher 181 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: in like every single batted ball stat. He's just mashing 182 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: the ball. He basically looks exactly like it like it 183 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: did when he was hitting fifty plus home runs. It 184 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: looks pretty much the same. So I'm not saying he's 185 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: gonna do that. He probably isn't. You're gonna have to 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: have more so far than you would need to have 187 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: some of it. 188 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: Some of it is launch angle related. Yeah, like he's 189 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: It's not He's not putting it twenty degrees he like 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: he has in the past. It's more a lot of eight, nine, ten. 191 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: Those are more susceptible to get caught, obviously, but still 192 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: he's hitting the crap out of the ball and that matters. 193 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just remember one more thing we should know, 194 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: because you know, Matt and I share at Alma Mater, 195 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: if you were due to the podcast, was the same 196 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: high school. I'm much older than him. Matt Olsen does 197 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things well on a baseball field. He 198 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: is the slowest person in America. There was this there's 199 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: this play at the near the end of the game 200 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: where I'm not sure it would have led to a 201 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: run like it maybe it would have put two guys on, 202 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: two out like it wouldn't guarantee, But Matt there was 203 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: this deflected ball that he hit by a White hit 204 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: hard again, it was deflected, and almost everyone in the 205 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: league beats it out except for Matt, who has I 206 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: believe it's fourth percentile sprint speed and he showed it 207 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: off at that moment. So that was more of a 208 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: funny thing in the end because they won the game, 209 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: but man, he's I could not believe he didn't get 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: the first It was unbelievable to me. 211 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: Well, not only that play, but I swear the last 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: three innings just turned into like an episode of like 213 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: web Gyms, where like Ossie made a great diving play, 214 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Eli White made a great diving play. 215 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Yep. 216 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: The Dodgers made some crazy plays. 217 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Nick Gallin had one in a seventh that actually probably 218 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: maybe saved a run that it was nasty, that was 219 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a sneaky once. It wasn't like a play you maybe 220 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: see on the old Baseball to Night Shorts Center. It 221 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of play, but it was like pretty 222 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: difficult play in a big, big spot. And Nick Allen 223 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: his nails man that I can really really pick it 224 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: at shortstop. 225 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he doesn't have an error yet. I think 226 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: he's a like plus five or six outs above average 227 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: at short stop. 228 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: He's bad. 229 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's basically the starter now, I don't I 230 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: can't tell you the last time I think Orlando may 231 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: have started one of the games in Colorado. I don't 232 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: actually remember last time Orlando started a game. So Nick 233 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Allen's basically the starting shortstop. 234 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just I actually didn't notice until you 235 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: said I just pulled it up. The last time Orlando 236 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Arcia got a played appearance was April twenty second. Wow, 237 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: So that's like to eleven or twelve days like it is. 238 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: It is the Nick Allen Show at shortstop. 239 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: When shann and I talked about this at one point, 240 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: like at some point, if Allen's going to be the starter, 241 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: like you have to ask yourself, what does it likes? 242 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Not a great bench piece because he doesn't hit. He 243 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: can't never pinch hit and he can't never pinch run him. 244 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's slow too. 245 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: He's slow as dirt and like you're never gonna pull 246 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: it like Nick Allen's a better defender he is. So 247 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: I don't know when, I don't know. It's Orlando's roster 248 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: spot is interesting to me, but we're not gonna talk 249 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: about any of us. Though they won the game tonight. Yeah, 250 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: they won the game tonight, some great defensive plays all 251 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: the way around. Mattis slow is dirt, but he heats 252 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: the crap out of the ball, and I'll take that trade. 253 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. We have more to get to on 254 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: this game, including genuine positivity about Bryce Silver that's coming 255 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: up in a second. First though, worth more partners on 256 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: the show. 257 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: Ft fan by now you know, if you're buying, selling, trading, 258 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: collecting cards, Arena Club is the spot. We've been talking 259 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: about them all season long. 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Who. Look, we've 283 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: been critical of Bryce Elder. I'll raise my hand. I 284 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: have been to I'm not sure how real it is, 285 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: but this is three consecutive pretty solid outings for Bryce Elder, 286 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: including this one. I guess the real obviously a very 287 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: real opponent in the Dodgers. The Dodgers are very very good. 288 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: And Bryce goes out there and he opens the game 289 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: by striking out Otani, Bets and Freeman in a row, 290 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: grant home styles what we'll call that, and then five innings, 291 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: four hits, two runs, two walks, six strikeouts, Like you 292 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: can't really ask for much more than that from your 293 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: fifth starter. I mean, I didn't want to go out 294 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: of my way to do it, but I was like, guys, 295 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: I think we're not talking about Bryce Elder enough after 296 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: this outing, like he gave them more than a chance 297 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: to win the game. He actually the game with the lead, 298 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: and those numbers are very very strong, especially against his 299 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Dodgers team. 300 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a knowledgees track out those three guys to start 301 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: the game and then struck out Muncie the first better 302 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: of the next day, he struck out first four hitters. 303 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: The Dodgers' first four hitters are pretty good, in case 304 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: you haven't noticed. So that's yeah. Credit to him. Man. Listen, 305 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: I have not said kind things about Bryce elder for 306 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: most of our time on this podcast, and I think 307 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: most of it is deserved. But when he does what 308 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: he's done the last three games, he deserves his flowers. 309 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: And listen, the way Schwellenbach is pitching, the way Sale 310 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: has been up and down. You know, Rinaldo's injuries, Strider's injury, 311 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: Grant Holmes, Bryce elder Man, those guys have been Those 312 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: guys have been godsence for the Braves. And you know, 313 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: when you're staring down a sweep and you got Bryceseller 314 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: on the mount against the Dodgers, it's not a great 315 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: mental place to be. I was not in a great 316 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: mental place this morning, kind of preparing myself for this game. 317 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: But all the credit in the world to him. I 318 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: don't I still don't understand how he does it. I 319 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: don't understand how somebody with a ninety two mile on 320 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: our fastball and very average command. You know, punches through 321 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: a lineup like this, But there are just nights he 322 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: does it and he gets a lot of ground balls 323 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: and that helps a ton. And he got a lot 324 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: of ground balls and night he got really good defense 325 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: to night as well, which always helps. And he gave 326 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: the Braves a chance to win, and the offense finally 327 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: came through. And so huge, huge win, just for I mean, 328 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: maybe just for Vibes. I don't know in the grand 329 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: scheme of things of this one win is gonna be 330 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: all that significant, but just for like ViBe's sake, not 331 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: getting swept by the Dodgers again, huge game. All the 332 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: credit in the world to Brice. 333 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I've tried to go a layer down. 334 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: What I've always said about Elder is that he's never 335 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna be great, but if he doesn't walk people, he 336 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: can be a fifth starter, like that's fine. And today 337 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: you know he two walks is fine. Two walks, my bettings. 338 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: You'll take that all day long. It's the out is 339 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: where he doesn't have any command that really worry you. 340 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: You can live there. And you mentioned the ground balls. 341 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: That's worth noting too. And these three outings that he's had. 342 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I think he has a total like twenty five ground 343 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: ball outs in three outings. Like that's a good He 344 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: has to get ground balls and not walk anybody, Yeah, 345 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: because he can't trig anybody out. But although today he 346 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: had six strikeouts, so maybe that's if you could do 347 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: that regularly, which he probably can't do. That's the one 348 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: thing I don't believe he can do is strike people 349 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: out regularly, because it's even when he was good early 350 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, it wasn't because of that he 351 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: was good. He wasn't getting strikeouts. But yeah, no, he 352 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: pitched great, honestly. And really, they've won now four consecutive 353 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Bryce Elder starts. The first one he was not special in. 354 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: It was five innings, four runs against the Twins and 355 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: it gave me a one six four, So not a 356 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: ton of credit for that one. But yeah, I mean 357 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: he's given him a chance to win at the very 358 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: least four straight times. And when you're down to your 359 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: seventh when look, he's the seventh guy. We're being honest, 360 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: he's the seventh guy. And when you're not your seventh 361 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: guy in early May, and it gives you four straight 362 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: out of which you were good enough to win. Because 363 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: he was good enough on that night, Like it shouldn't 364 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: be glossed over, So doesn't mean it's predictive of the 365 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: next start. Honestly, I'm not trying to pour cold water 366 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: on all of this. We're trying to be objective here. 367 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: But it was huge like him doing that against the Dodgers. 368 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: I would have certainly if you okay, you said, okay, 369 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Brad bet on whether Bryce allows more than two runs 370 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: or not today, I would have taken the over for 371 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: sure and lost. 372 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't remember exactly how it ended 373 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: up breaking out. I don't remember exactly how much the 374 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: bullpen gave up and how much he gave up. But 375 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: his worst, his worst start against the Dodgers was very 376 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: similar to this game where the Braves jumped out early. 377 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: You know, he pitched decently well. I think the bullpen 378 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: ended up blowing that game. 379 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I think Bryce like he didn't he didn't get he 380 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: didn't get the loss, which I don't care, but but 381 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: you just it's good, it's good. Be uh indication there. Yeah, 382 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't awful against Dodgers. First time. He wasn't good, 383 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: but tonight even I think didn't he Yeah, he wasn't. 384 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: The second and second run he was charged with he 385 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: didn't actually allow it was his base writer, which means 386 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: he gets charged with it. But uh, actually, I want 387 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: to ask you one thing. This is this is more 388 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: about manageing, more management than bryce. This is the third 389 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: time the order question is it is? And not even that. 390 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: My thing is, yes, that's part of this. But he 391 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: opens a sixth standing, which I didn't mind because he 392 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: was pitching pretty well. But for me third time through 393 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: the order, if you don't know this, there's a penalty 394 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: for that for every pitcher. Basically, I'm sure an absolutely 395 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous and he's his is very sharp, I would say. 396 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: And it's also the Dodgers order, which means that the 397 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: top of their order is a bunch of stars. So 398 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: my only issue and you don't have to you don't 399 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: have to grieve me, honest at all. He walks Mookie 400 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: bats to open the sixth standing. At that point, he 401 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: can't he can't face brain front of me. In my opinion, 402 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: now I know it's it's not it's not a playoff game. 403 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: I know it's May fourth. I said that on to 404 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: where people were like, well, you know, he's pitching pretty 405 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: I get it. It's not a it's not a criticism 406 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: of rice order. We just praised. But and maybe maybe 407 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: Sid would say there was nobody ready in the bullpen, 408 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: but that that's management choice as well. You for me, 409 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: you got to go into the sixth inning and third 410 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: time through the order knowing who you're playing against. Number one, 411 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: this is the Dodgers you're facing, and knowing who your 412 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: picture is. This is not Chris Sale, this is not 413 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: even special Swamma buck. This is a guy who you 414 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: should treat like a fifth starter. And that's the only 415 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: thing it didn't like, single handedly bite them that might 416 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: give up. It might have allowed a run that shouldn't 417 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: have been there because Freeman, of course singles that leads 418 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: to a run moments later. You're not guaranteed to get 419 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: him out by any means. But what did you do? 420 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: You agree with me? That's the one thing I didn't 421 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: like was that he shouldn't have faced for you. 422 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the warning signs were actually the inning before 423 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: where he gave up a rocket to Austin Barnes for 424 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: an out, and then he gave up like a four 425 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: hundred foot rocket to show show hey for an out, 426 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: and those were his last two's out last two outs 427 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: of the fifth inning, and so the warning signs were 428 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: kind of already there. And listen, everybody knows Bryce, not 429 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: just Bryce like you said most pictures. Third time through, 430 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: it's a big, big, big, big big red flag. One 431 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Once he walks Mookie, he's got to be out. 432 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: I will say this in Brian's defense. This is not 433 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: the level of bullpen that he's had in the past. Yeah, 434 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: and like even tonight, Dylan Lee came in first. I 435 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: think first guy face gave up a homer. So and 436 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: that's probably the guy you go to, right if if 437 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: if you walk Mookie and you're like, all right, Freeman's up, 438 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: I gotta get him out, the guy you're probably going 439 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: to is Dylan Lee. Yeah, and so I a hunter. 440 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean I said it at the time, I tweeted 441 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: it that he can't he cannot be pitching right now. 442 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: And it did end up. You know, Pierce Johnson did 443 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: a great job, by the way, we need to give 444 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: him credit for getting out of that. And he only 445 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: given up one run, but yeah, that did cost the 446 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: Braves run. Snitker has always been a led. A guy 447 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: pitch until he has given up more runs, then take 448 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: a guy out before he gives up more runs, and 449 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: that's he's He's always done that. 450 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably never going to change. And that's 451 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: why people that are more zealous than me would would 452 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: just say he can't start the sixth. 453 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: N Yeah, and. 454 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: If you've been pulled there, I think you and I 455 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: probably I don't want to speak for you. I would 456 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: have totally understood. It would have been like cool, fine 457 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: with that. It didn't bother me. But for me, it's like, 458 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: if you're putting him back into a start to six, 459 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: the first sign of trouble, he's got to be out 460 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: of the game. And when you walk the lead off 461 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: man like, that's a sound of truckle. 462 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: I'm so used to Brian's nicker. At this point, I 463 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: had no doubt he was pitching the sixth same. 464 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to come out, especially because he had 465 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: a relatively low pitch count, which somebody replied to me, Yeah, 466 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: I get it, I get all of it. And if 467 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: he's facing then seven, eight nine in the line up, 468 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit different too. The calculust was basically, 469 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: you're facing two of the ten best players in baseball 470 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: started to start the inning. Yeah, yeah, and that's part 471 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: of this too. I think that if they had if 472 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: they're if maybe if they're up by one st it's 473 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: more aggressive. I don't know how what he's thinking of, 474 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: but I always wanted to flag that it's not a 475 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: playoff breadown when we're we go through every every single decision. 476 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: But I didn't love that one. It did kind of 477 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: bite them, just not bad enough to lose the game. 478 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned the bullpen, it was really good. Pierce pitched well. 479 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: He allowed the one run that came from Bryce, but 480 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: it was first and third out. You're supposed to allow 481 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: a run there, basically, that's the expectation in that spot. 482 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: He pitched well. Lee al Ada home run, But you 483 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: know the rest of the night, Day's Bell pitched very 484 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: well and Iglesias, look, he gave up a base runner, 485 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like a rocket at all. I play 486 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: that maybe a better defender makes a second as he 487 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: did a good job knocking it down anyway. But then 488 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: three strikeouts in the inning and looked okay to me 489 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: like he wasn't blowing anybody away. But this is the 490 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: third straight look, we're great on a curve here, third 491 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: straight scoreless outing for my cell after the kind of 492 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: disaster he was early in the season, What did you 493 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: make of just even the product? Did he look as 494 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: good as the numbers indicate with three strikeouts? 495 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: To you, this is the best command that ry Sale 496 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: has had in a while. He's been a command has 497 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: been his big issue. And he was dotting the change 498 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: up inside the righty's like he struck out I think 499 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: it was Rojas. There was a man on third with 500 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: one out and he needed two strikeouts to get out 501 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: of it. Struck out Rojas on three consecutive changeups, dotted 502 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: on the inside corner. And then Will not Will Smith, 503 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Austin Barnes came up and he went fastball high, fastball high, 504 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: put them both right at the top of his zone, 505 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: and then finished them off with a slider off the place. 506 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: It was like pert like all three pitches. He was 507 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: dotting at a level we really haven't seen from him 508 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: this year, and that's kind of been the missing piece 509 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: for him. And so I was I mean, obviously shohel 510 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: Tani's standing on deck the tying runs on third. You know, 511 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm pacing in my leaving. I know we got to 512 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: do a podcast after it, Like, but he was. I 513 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: really thought, listen, the Dodgers have an incredibly fast guy 514 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: and Kim on the bench. They got the single, they 515 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: got the stolen base. He made a hell of a 516 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: play to get the third base on that strikeout, and 517 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: then yeah, Russel was just awesome. And yeah, that was 518 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: as good as I've seen him all year. 519 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: This is not a Dodgers podcast. We have one of those. 520 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: It's Dodgers territory. I don't know why Austin Barnes hit. 521 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: They didn't they pinch him. Wilson, Well, I don't know. 522 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: No, he he had just hit two batters before, so 523 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: he could have come in the game and play catcher. 524 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: I didn't understand that, so maybe I missed something. But 525 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the Dodgers like Barnes is their worst hitter. 526 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 4: I was. 527 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: I was thrilled that he that they let him hit. 528 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: I was assuming the entire time pinch hitter before show, 529 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: and they didn't hit for Barnes, so that worked out. 530 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: Well. 531 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't know who they had on their I don't. 532 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: Either, to be fair, so yeah, that could be just 533 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: me being silly and missing something obvious. But I was like, man, 534 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: they were really gonna let Austin Barnes hit here with 535 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: the game on once than two hours. 536 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: Chris Taylor, I guess. 537 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they have an injury. I don't know. I could 538 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: be wrong about that. I just was. I was surprised 539 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't a pitch hitter, but hey, whatever works if 540 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: you are the Braves. 541 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: And again, oh and speaking of pinch hitter, like Sean 542 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: and I talk about this all the time, like and 543 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: then in the bottom of the eighth, Eli White gets on, 544 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: there's a lefty face on Drake Baldwin. I don't understand 545 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: why we do not pinch hit. Well you do, I 546 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: mean you do understand you in it, but I hate 547 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 2: it so much that I refuse to understand it. 548 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one where gott. 549 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: To be Sean Murphy. That's just got to be Sean Murphy. 550 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Number one. We agree. I think this is a pretty 551 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: much a podcast sentiment at this point, we don't understand it. 552 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: I will give a little bit of grace on this 553 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: one because I think the last times came up is 554 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: when Eddie resart of it for himself and a big 555 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: spot the other day, and that was like, you cannot 556 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: let him hit there. Yeah, at least with Baldwin, he's 557 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: it's left down, lefty. I don't like that matchup. I'd 558 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: rather have Murphy at the plate, to be very clear. 559 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: But it's not like you have a zero at the plate, 560 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: like if they if that's our way to our SIA 561 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: and he's hitting with Sean Murphy available, I'm like losing 562 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: my ever loving mind and that spot Like I also 563 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's because I'm beaten down. I just knew he 564 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do it. 565 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: But I don't understand just giving away the platoon advantage. 566 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: No, I agree, he should it should have been it 567 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be Murphy. And if you don't, if you've missed 568 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: this or if you're new to the podcast, snicker just 569 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: almost never. I won't say it never because he has 570 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: done it on very very very rare occasions, but he 571 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: will do anything to not use his second catcher. Yeah, 572 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: and give yours. And I get it, I mean some degree, 573 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I get it. I don't agree, but he's just terrified 574 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: of not having a catcher available if something happens to 575 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Murphy in that spot. But like, look, man, how often 576 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: does that happen. I'm not saying it's possible, but the 577 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: risk factors do not out. 578 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: Look, and the funny thing was why Kim was standing 579 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: on first everybody knew in the world he was about 580 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: to steal. I was thinking to myself, Man, I'd love 581 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: to have Sean Murphy behind the plate right correct? 582 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: And you know, to be fair, I thought Baldwin did 583 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: a fine job. 584 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: Made. 585 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not his fault at all. That's a 586 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: very very very fast guy who had a good jump 587 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: and even even though other one like Baldwin kind of 588 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: hesitated when he had to throw it a first. 589 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: Phase nothing, he did nothing wrong. 590 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just Kim creating havoc. And look, Eli 591 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: White was gonna try and do the same thing in 592 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the previous ending and he just got picked off, which 593 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: happened sometimes. So long story short, the Braves win. That 594 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: was probably a deeper dive break than we would normally 595 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: do about one game, but it was worth it. After 596 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: a monumental victory, felt like on this Sunday we should 597 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: go back and at least three we discussed Saturday's game 598 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: and ten to three loss. You could you could hear 599 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Steven or see Steven's reaction. Number one was a weird night, 600 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: a three hour delay to the game. First pitch was 601 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: it was the latest first pitch ever at Truest Park. 602 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: Now it's only like less than a decade, but still 603 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: it's a long time. And they starts well, it was 604 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: like ten to twenty first pitch time, it finished like 605 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: one in the morning. It was just that was a 606 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: weird night all the way around. But I mean, look, 607 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: it was one of by the numbers, one of the 608 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: three worst starts of SPECIs Swallenmach's short career. He was 609 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: not good at all on Saturday, and I wonder what 610 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: you think of that because this is not, unfortunately not 611 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: an outlier. He's allowed seventeen runs in the last four starts, 612 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: and I had this stat which I can't I can't 613 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: love myself forget to say it. If you go back 614 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: to last year, he allowed sixteen runs in the previous 615 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: twelve starts combined before this four start run. So he 616 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: was one extreme to the other, basically like unsustainably dominant 617 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: over twelve starts, and the ones to the last four 618 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: starts he's getting beaten up a little bit. So, uh, 619 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: what do you think are you worried. 620 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm not well, I'm listen, I worry about everything. 621 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: So oh oh, I know that's that's your brand. But 622 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: are you actually worried? Are you? Are you Stephen worried? 623 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Or are you. 624 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: The command has been the command has almost been too good, 625 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: where like he's in the he's just in the middle 626 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: of the plate and he's in the middle of the 627 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: plate with everything. The hits and runs he is giving 628 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: up are not cheap. He is giving up rockets. I mean, 629 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: the Dodgers had to think nine or ten bat at 630 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: balls over one hundred miles an hour. The Blue Jays 631 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: did something similar to him, Like there's nobody in baseball. 632 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: There's nobody in baseball that can pitch in the middle 633 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: of the plate consistently. The hitters are too good for that. 634 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: So he's just not had his good command a little 635 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: bit like Rassiel. Honestly, he's just not had his good command. 636 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: And good command doesn't always mean walks or bad command 637 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: doesn't always mean walks. Bad command be middle of the 638 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: plate and just getting drubbed, And that's kind of what's happened. 639 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: And you know, command is one of those things. It 640 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: just comes and goes for some guys with with Schwallenbach, 641 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: it's been so consistent. That's been the shocking thing is 642 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: he's been so consistent. Maybe it was unfair, you know, 643 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: maybe the expectations Listen. I'm guilty of it as anybody. 644 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm not putting this on anybody else. He's been so 645 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: good for so long that I would just kind of 646 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: maybe expected it too much, And it was only fair 647 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: to expect at some point this kid was going to 648 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: have some growing pains at this level. But I just 649 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: think he's throwing way too good at pitches in two 650 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: counts one two counts, he's still getting hit hard, so 651 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: he's got to be a little bit more on the edges. 652 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm not worried, it's way too soon to 653 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: be actually worried. But the Brave's pitching staff is so 654 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: damp thin. I mean, they got Elder and smith Shov 655 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: in the rotation right now out of complete necessity, and 656 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: if anybody else goes down, I genuinely don't know who 657 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: they would turn to. And so like there's just no 658 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: margin for error. And Chrisselle has looked better, which has helped. 659 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, we need the I mean they need Spencer 660 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: swelling back to turn it around. There's no doubt. 661 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm not worried either. Our guy Mark Bowman had this 662 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: stat about the hard hit balls. I think it was, Yeah, 663 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: opponents have had at least seven bat of balls if 664 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: nine nine or one hundred miles an hour or more, 665 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: only four times that his first twenty four starts, and 666 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: now now it's having four times in a row. So 667 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: like he wasn't gonna get like this before, like it is, 668 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: and your point is one hundred percent right, come in 669 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of this too, Like I'm a big 670 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: walks strikeouts guy. It doesn't matter to me quite a bit, 671 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, you can have bad command without without walking guys, 672 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: if you're missing over the plate, which he tends to do. 673 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: I am also not worried, even like it's kind of 674 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: funny to have this come up because if you just 675 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: like parachute out of out of space, if you saw Schwalbeck, 676 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: I believe has that. Yeah, his era right now is 677 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: like three point nine for the season. Like it's not 678 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: like that's a disastrous number, but it was. It's the 679 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: two extreme. So I think there was some some regression 680 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: due for Spencer, which I am that's my brand to 681 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: point that out. I think I also think he's pitched worse. 682 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Like it's not like a situation where he's pitching the 683 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: same and getting worse results. He's pitching worse right now 684 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: than he was before. 685 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: And listen, there's a whole conversation that's completely fair to 686 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: have to be Like, it wasn't fair of the organization 687 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: to like expect him like they set up his pitching staff. 688 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they kind of expected him to be a 689 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: two starter three. I mean last year he was the 690 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: fifth starter, and so there wasn't nearly as much pressure 691 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: on him this year, Like they didn't add a bunch, 692 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: they didn't add anything in the rotation, and obviously Strata 693 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: was hurt. So like the expectation immediately out of the 694 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: gate was like, you're our number two starter. 695 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's there is a pressure level there. 696 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Obviously they thought Strata will be back by now because 697 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: he was back and then had to go back on 698 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the IL. But it's also hard I could see organizationally, 699 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: to be very clear, we all argued, and I argued 700 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: vociferously for them to sign a starter, and they didn't 701 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: do it. So I disagree with that at the time. 702 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I still do, but like Specier was almost too good 703 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: for his own good last year, like they had to 704 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: kind of banke On because it wasn't fluky, like he 705 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: actually pitched at that level. Like there are certain players 706 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: and we already talked about one of them on this podcast. 707 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: You can go back to that of guys who like 708 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: everyone's like, look, this is not real everyone, but Spencer, 709 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: all of it was real, Like all of the underlying 710 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: stuff was there, Like it wasn't like this fake mirage 711 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: of a It was twenty one starts too. It was 712 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: like he came up in August, he pitched two thirds 713 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: of the season in the rotation. It was awesome, So 714 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: you kind of had to bank on maybe not that 715 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: impeding itself, but like logically he was should have been 716 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: a third starter coming in this season. I'm behind the 717 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: big two and one of them is hurt right now, 718 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: so I get it. There is a different level of pressure, 719 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: which is not something that I would always think of, 720 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: but you're right that does exist. It's different for a 721 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: guy who is very young, who came up very fast, 722 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: is twenty four years old, still all this stuff. But 723 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: also he gets praised a lot and I don't know 724 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: the man, yeah, personally, but everyone seems to love Specer's makeup, 725 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: like no one's worried about that. So I think we'll 726 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: figure it out. I have all the faith in the 727 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: world that he'll be a good picture. I don't know 728 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: where his baseline is, Like, I don't know where it 729 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: actually is. I think last year is reasonable baseline. Era 730 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: in the low three is like really really good. All 731 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: the sy Schwamma Bach talk we've been joking about for 732 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: a while. It's probably a little bit overstated, I guess 733 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: at this point in time, but I still believe I'm 734 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: not worried either. It's just a little bit of an eye. 735 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Every time you have another one of these, it's like 736 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: gets your eyebrow get a little bit higher in your head, 737 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: like you'll be got the rock pretty soon where your 738 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: eyebrows like at your hairline. I don't know what's gonna. 739 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: Happen unlessay Brace fans probably have PTSD. I mean everybody. 740 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: There's been multiple cases of like top prospects pictures coming up, 741 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: having an incredible first year, like Mike Soroka in twenty nineteen, 742 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: and then obviously never seeing it again. Ian Anderson in 743 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, basically never seeing it again. Kyle Wright in 744 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: twenty one, basically never seeing it again. Like I get it, 745 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: Like there's still there is some hardcore PTSD from watching 746 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: top prospects look like they're going to be future aces 747 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: and then it just goes away. And so I am 748 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: in no way saying that's what's gonna happen to Spincher Swallenbach. 749 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: I think he is much more suited for a long 750 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: career than those guys were because obviously those guys a 751 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: lot of it was injury. But I get it. I 752 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: get the worry. I mean, I certainly understand the worry. 753 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Anteby have a guy who's and look, pitching is 754 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: just more of a litile in general, which is a 755 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: theme of our podcast, but especially pitching when it's it's 756 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: only been a year, like you know, Yeah, I think 757 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: the underlying stuff is real, which is why we focused 758 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: on you mentioned process earlier in this podcast. We do 759 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: like to talk about process because it's more indicative than 760 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: results a lot of the time, and that's why I'm 761 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: not worried is the process part. But we'll we'll get 762 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: to that in a second. Other than that, on Saturday. 763 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the offense was not actually as bad as 764 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: it seemed like. It didn't matter because they give up 765 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: ten runs, but they had ten hits and three walks. 766 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Ozzy had a good game, which he hadn't in a while, 767 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: hit a home run, stole a base. There were some 768 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: stuff to like. If you wanted to glom onto something positive, 769 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: you could find it. The pitching staff had a blow up. 770 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: You allowed ten runs, you're gonna lose almost the time 771 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: or higher. 772 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: So the fact and that man, listen, the fact that 773 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman has turned into like Barry Bonds anytime he 774 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: comes back to Atlanta's. 775 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Did Sean have the stat where he has the highest 776 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: ops and a truest for an opposing. 777 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: Player Vinny opposing player? 778 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Ever, so, well, we're not going to do that conversation 779 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: today because that's that's by the way, this has happened 780 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: to you. We're every single day, in my mentions, there's 781 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: a Freddy conversation every nation. 782 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Freddy Olsoen conversation and well, at least not so 783 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: much this year, but a Murphy Contreras conversation. 784 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it wasn't just me that was attractive this 785 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: and Obviously it's gonna happen even more with Dodgers are 786 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: in town, so I expect it. I expect it right now. 787 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: It always happens that way, and Freddy's probably mean the 788 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: whole family day is awesome, player, but it just gets 789 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: to be exhausting anyway. Okay, there's one bit of news, 790 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: and I stressed bit of news before we preview the 791 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: Red Series and get out of here. The Brave signed 792 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Austin Cox, a twenty eight year old left hand over 793 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: the weekend, to a major league deal, and that that 794 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: was the That was the one bit of surprise. That 795 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: is a major league deal. And I checked this, as 796 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: you were my witness before we start. Three times to that. 797 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: I was like, are we sure it's a major leage deal? 798 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: The Brads announce it's on her own, it's a major 799 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: league deal. Candidly, I had never heard of Austin Cox. 800 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I would not lie to the audience. I don't know 801 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: what a name about Austin Cox. Now some research he 802 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: also was an optioned immediately to Gounette. So major league deal, 803 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: but he's in the minors right away. He's been with 804 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: the Royals his entire career until now. He actually is 805 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: a local product, local issue. He went to Mercer, he 806 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: grew up in Macon, so he's the Braids like their 807 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: local products every once in a while. He's a left hander, 808 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: which is probably what this is about, but he hasn't 809 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: actually been in the major since twenty twenty three and 810 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: seems to be a reliever at this point. I mean, 811 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: what do you make of this? Do you care about 812 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: this at all? Like it matters since it's a major 813 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: league deal, so they see something in him, But that's 814 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of all I got right now. 815 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had an open four, and they 816 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: had a couple of open forty men spots. I'm sure. 817 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know guys try out anymore. I don't 818 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: even know if that's a thing. It used to be 819 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: a thing where guys would actually try out, come. 820 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: Come and throw. I mean yeah, because he had been 821 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: in the free agent for a little bit, like he was. 822 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: He was with the Royals organization this season, but he 823 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: was obviously Look I use this too often, probably, but 824 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: if you're available to sign on May third, May fourth, 825 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: you don't have a huge market general speed that's not great. 826 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he's a huge I mean he's 827 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: a huge he's like six five, two forty. I don't 828 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: think he throws all that hard. I think he's like 829 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: a ninety one ninety two lefty. Yeah, I mean left 830 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 2: handed relievers. You know, I guess technically you can never 831 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: really have enough of them. I don't I have. You 832 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: could put a gun in my head. I couldn't give 833 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: you like something interesting about Austin Cox. 834 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Well, I was reading actually I've brought up, but I 835 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: think it was mlbtrade rovers and they even said I'm 836 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: gonna quote them. Actually, uh, it's a little bit surprising 837 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: to see him plant a guaranteed deal. 838 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a major league Yeah, I mean yeah. 839 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: That's that's the thing about it, is the major leage deal. 840 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: If this is a minor league signing, we might mention 841 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: it for two seconds. But because they saw something enough 842 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: to give him maybe wage, weel it's something. 843 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: Wasn't Kimberl's deal like a split contract. 844 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's guaranteed a little bit more money than a 845 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: normal minimum would be. But yeah, he's he was not even. 846 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: Major That's what I'm saying. Like he got a better 847 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: deal than I mean. 848 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: Technically he kind of did. Yeah, And speaking of kimberrel 849 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: like at some point we think he's gonna come up 850 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: and beyond added to the active roster. We don't know 851 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: what he's pitching in Gwinett, pitching Fie by all accounts, 852 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: we don't know when it's gonna happen, but we're all 853 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of waiting for that move to happen. Okay, Cox 854 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: is in Gwinette now, he was optioned right away. We 855 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: may never see Austin Cox. That's definitely possible. But because 856 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: it's a major league contract, you just have to notice. 857 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: It's possible. Like Gwinnett had an injury that we don't 858 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: even like, they don't announce minor league injuries, so it's 859 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: possible somebody, Yeah, Grnett got hurt. I will say this 860 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: the Braves in terms of the bullpen, like since day 861 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: one of the season, they have been rotating guys. I 862 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: mean they've been churning the bottom of the bullpen the 863 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: the end of the forty man and you know you 864 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: could I can't even list all the names of guys 865 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: they've gone through already, and it's we're in May. I 866 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: don't know why they waited till the start of the 867 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 2: season to start adding to the bullpen. This is maybe 868 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: something we could have done, you know, in the off season, 869 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: but clearly since the season started they have just it 870 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: has been a literally a merry go round of names. 871 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: And I have some names for you ready for this. 872 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: Here's some names that have pitched for the Breaks this season. 873 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Davis Daniel, Nathan Wiles, Michael Peterson, Jesse Chavez, Hector Nerris, 874 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: Zach Thompson, Jose Suarez, Scott Blewett. I have all pitched, 875 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: plus obviously the guys that are still around your your 876 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Monterro's and all this gus. But like, that's a lot 877 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: of names of guys that you probably already have forgotten. 878 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 2: And it's May fourth, and and and we didn't say 879 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: their name one time in spring training any of them. 880 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, any of those guys, I mean, and a 881 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of them were signed or rotated in or whatever, 882 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of them already gone. All those things happened, 883 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: so it is it's natural. There's a reason why we 884 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: talk about bullpens be vollet all the time, because they are. 885 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: But it's been a little bit more extreme than you 886 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: thought so far through a month and then Kimberl's almost 887 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna be added you might see mister Austin 888 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: Cox at some point. We'll see just another name to 889 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: throw in there. And it's a major league deal, so 890 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: it was worth a podcast mini segment because it's a 891 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: major leage contract. That's all I have on that, all right, 892 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: So before we got here, the Braves host the Reds 893 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: for four games begin on Monday. No off day this 894 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: time the last few, at least the last two. I 895 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: think Mondays have been off days for the Braves. No, 896 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: that's not true. They just played later at night, so 897 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: it felt like an off day. Anyway. They're not off Monday, 898 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: so it's a four game series at home. The Reds 899 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: are pretty decent. Eighteen and seventeen so far. I pulled 900 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: this there in the top six in the National League 901 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: in both runs scored and allowed, so they they're playing 902 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: pretty well. They're not like dominating, but they're playing pretty well. 903 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Decent roster. The Riffs have announced their probables for the series. 904 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Smith Shaver is gonna go Monday. By all accounts. There 905 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: was a little bit of mystery about that. No longer. 906 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: He's now listed the probable. Then Sale Holmes Schwambach in order, 907 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: which is of course as expected. The one matchup that 908 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about is Wednesday, which is 909 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Green, who's been awesome for the Reds this year 910 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: against Holmes, who we like on this podcast. But he's 911 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: not as good as Hunter Green. But what do you 912 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: make of this series? You know, it's a four gamer, 913 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: So challenges in the Reds right now are better than Look, 914 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: they're ahead of the Bredges of the standing. This is 915 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: not an easy match up. It's not. It's not the Dodgers, 916 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: but it's not like the Rockies either. 917 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen to Braves. I mean, I'm I have 918 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: to go back and look, since Elie de la Cruz 919 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: came into the league, I don't know if they've ever 920 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: gotten him out the cycle like his like I'm swear 921 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: like one of his first games ever was against the 922 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: Braves and I'm pretty sure you hit for the cycle. 923 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: So I cannot stand. At least it's not in Cincinnati. 924 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: It is not a place where you never want to 925 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 2: go to try to get people out. 926 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have the number for you right now. 927 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Eliot da Cruz has played against the Braves nine times 928 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: in his career. His OPS is twelve. 929 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I I I knew. I wasn't dreaming that, 930 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Like they just they don't get them out. 931 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: And two home runs, three trip by the way, three 932 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: three triples in nine games against the Braves. 933 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: Two I'm ninety percent certain he's hit for the cycle 934 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: against the Braves. At one point I think, yeah, So 935 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: I never like seeing that guy come to town. The 936 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 2: Reds have been a weird team, Like they've actually pitched 937 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: pretty well, which is not what you know the Reds 938 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: for the offense has been kind of inconsistent. But like 939 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: Brad said, I mean, they they're They've got like a 940 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: plus thirty five run different run differential, So that's big time. 941 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's elite basically at this point 942 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: in the season. That's you know, that's what kind of 943 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: the best teams of baseball do I don't. I certainly 944 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: don't think the Reds are among the best teams in baseball. 945 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: But but but they're but they're solid enough. 946 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: They've played substantially better than Braves have this year. So 947 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: we're certainly not gonna spend any time bashing the Reds. 948 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: It's always you know, the Reds are kind of like 949 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 2: a foundational organization in the sport. I think the first team. 950 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: I think the Reds were like the first team ever 951 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. I think they're like the originating team. 952 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: So there's always some cool history stuff with the Reds. 953 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: I am never confident against them again because Ellie is 954 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: so unbelievably good. They do have some interesting young players, 955 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: you know Hunter Green obviously that Brad just talked about. 956 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 2: So it's at home. You probably need to at the 957 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: very least split the series. I think anything less than 958 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: a split would certainly be disappointing. I'm not sure at 959 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: this point. With the way the Braves are playing, you 960 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: can expect much more than a split. I think that's 961 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: probably the kind of the median outcome of this series. 962 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the median is certainly I mean, if 963 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: you were just okay, I always do this. But it's 964 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: the reason why do it. I think it's because the 965 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: betting market is the most efficient predictor that's publicly available. 966 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 1: If you were to do all the math and say 967 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: what is the most likely outcome of a four gamer 968 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: between the Braves and the Reds, it's almost certainly a split. 969 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: Now you want to win it, and the Braves need 970 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: to win series. Now they just did win four in 971 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: a row before this last one, but they got they 972 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,479 Speaker 1: gotta stack wins. Four games are hard. It's obviously hard. 973 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: It's very obviously but steven, but it's hard to win 974 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: a four game series and has to win three game series. 975 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: You have to win one more game. You're gonna win 976 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: three out of four instead of two out of three. 977 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: But it's attainable. The schedule is a little bit friendlier 978 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: now for a little while. Like the Reds than the 979 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: Pirates than the Nats twice in three series, so like 980 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: they have some chances, but the Reds are better than 981 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: a lot better than the Pirates, and they're better than that. 982 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: So this is a difficult, difficult matchup, but like a 983 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: decently difficult matchup home games. I know the Braves have 984 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: been advertising the heck out of this series, like I've 985 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: been on podcasts that I listened to that are not 986 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: my own, the rad schel doing this like May and 987 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: the a promotion right now where they're trying to people 988 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: to come to the ballpark with cheap tickets this week. 989 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be a lot of people in there. But 990 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: also that usually tells you that they might be looking 991 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: for people to come to the park because they haven't 992 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: sold tickets yet because it's the Reds and school still 993 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: at school, still in session, and. 994 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: They don't do that. They don't do that when the 995 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: Dodgers are in town, they do not. 996 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: So that's I'm just kind of flagging that it's a 997 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: it's a mid week series with the Reds, not a 998 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: huge family, so but Cinnati would imagine in the city. 999 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. But I am, yeah, 1000 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: I think anything worse than two and two is not good. Obviously, 1001 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: it's uh and we'll be flustered by that. I think 1002 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: we made fun of it earlier, the tone of this 1003 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: podcast being relatively upbeat because they won today, because with 1004 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: the curve of losing to the dot if they lost 1005 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: serious to somebody else other than the Dodgers or the 1006 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: Padre is like one of those really really good teams, 1007 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more angst inducing to lose the 1008 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: series against a decent team or bad team, not as 1009 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: you're just better than the break right now, That's just 1010 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: that's the well. 1011 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 2: It also came off that like insanely disappointing loss to 1012 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: the Rockies. 1013 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: It did, and that that did make it worse and 1014 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: that that's the Today's saved the vibes of this podcast 1015 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: for sure, But losing a series is never good. It's 1016 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: just a little bit more understandable when you do it 1017 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: to the Dodgers. If you go lose three out of 1018 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: four at home to the Reds, that will not be 1019 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: received well even by people like us. They're a little 1020 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: bit a little bit more even keel than some I 1021 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: can tell you, the vibe will not be great when 1022 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: we re kept that podcast that series that they was 1023 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: three out of four, So we'll see. 1024 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Braves got some help from the Mets 1025 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: and the Cardinals today that the Mets lost the double 1026 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 2: They lost both ends of a double header. Like there 1027 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: was a world where if the Braves lost today and 1028 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 2: the Mets swept their double header, the Braves are going 1029 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: to be like nine and a half games back in 1030 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: the Mets, which is and like I know people are 1031 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: like it's to really look at the standings, but like 1032 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 2: we're approaching, We're rapidly approaching I think the one quarter 1033 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: the quarter mark of the season. 1034 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: We're like, we're one said today today is basically exactly 1035 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the season for the Braves. Like yesterday 1036 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: was nineteen and today's like twenty point three or something 1037 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: like so, like we're right at the one fifth mark 1038 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: of the season, which is been a huge, you know 1039 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: thing that we're all looking forward to. But yet to 1040 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: your point, we are very close to the quarter to 1041 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: first quarter being done and that you know, people, there's 1042 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: a bit about this, like you look at it standings 1043 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: then or is it Memorial Day, whatever, it doesn't matter. 1044 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: We cover the team where but it doesn't matter. They 1045 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: got to win some games, and this is very obvious, 1046 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: like they've been playing reasonably well since the start, but 1047 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: we do it in a lot. Then when you start 1048 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: oh and seven, your life is harder, and it's harder 1049 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: for a long time, Like you unless you win your 1050 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: next seven games in a row. If they didn't do, 1051 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: like you are starting from a hole and they're still 1052 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: they haven't reached out of it yet. They had, they 1053 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: had one chance to get the five hundred, they didn't 1054 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: get there, and now they got to do some more work. 1055 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: Like the only way they get the five hundred now 1056 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: in the next four days, it's just with the Reds, 1057 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: which is an easy task. 1058 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, listen, like three game losing streaks for a 1059 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: normal team is whatever. When you start the euro and 1060 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: seven and then you have a three game losing story somewhere, 1061 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: it's much different. It just is you've just dug yourself 1062 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 2: a substantially bigger hole and you just have so much 1063 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: less margin for error, and so, you know, I know 1064 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 2: people think we freak out sometimes because of how the 1065 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: team is playing, but like they they do not have. 1066 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 2: It's you know, when you look at who's injured, who's 1067 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: who's currently playing, they don't have the margin of era 1068 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 2: that like a normal team would. At this point, they 1069 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: have to start playing better. They have played better until 1070 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, the last three games before tonight, hopefully the Reds. 1071 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: I would love to get three out of four. That 1072 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: would be a tremendous just tremendous you know, step forward, 1073 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: you're rapidly approaching where you're you know, potentially getting a 1074 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 2: Kunyan Strider back. The schedule does lighten up a little bit. 1075 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: You got Pittsburgh, you got Washington coming, like there is 1076 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: a chance to make some hey here. But you can't 1077 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: have games where you score one run against the guy 1078 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: with a seven ERA like they did against Colorado. So 1079 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: you know it is time to kind of get it going. 1080 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 1: It is and uh, I'm not sure if I said 1081 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: this out loud. At some point already, the Briefs play 1082 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: every single day. I think it's for like seventeen days 1083 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: in a row and they're in the middle of that 1084 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: right now. They don't have an off day that I 1085 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: am seeing. Yeah, they're not off date un soil. 1086 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, that's why they that's why they 1087 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: stayed till ten pm last night. Yes, I'll play that game. 1088 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: They don't have updates on May nineteenth. Yeah, and they 1089 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: and obviously they just played three days in a row, 1090 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: so they're uh, yeah, that's I think it's suck seventeen 1091 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: something like that. It's games in a row. So you know, 1092 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: it's baseball that happens. You don't suddenly crumble. But for 1093 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: a team that has some depth issues right now, started 1094 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: pitching issues right now, you're just crossing your fingers and 1095 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: trying to stack wins and stack series. I mean, we 1096 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: go back to it. They lost the series this time, 1097 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. You gotta go back to winning series. And 1098 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: if you can go out there and take particular business 1099 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: against the Reds, the Pirates, the Nationals, the Red Sox 1100 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: like beatable teams. They don't play a team that I 1101 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: would describe as we know they're good until the padres, 1102 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: which is three weeks from now. So until then, between 1103 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: now and then, they need to be winning more than 1104 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: they're losing. 1105 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 2: And listen, they didn't do a great job handling it, 1106 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: but there is something to be said of you're just 1107 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 2: you're done with the Dodgers. You're done with a die 1108 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: until they. 1109 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: Avoided the history of getting swept by the Dodgers at least, 1110 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: so there's. 1111 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: That you don't have, Like there are other teams that 1112 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: still got to play the Dodgers six seven times, and 1113 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 2: the Braves don't have any. So you know, I don't 1114 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: know how much that's worth, but it's worth something. 1115 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: It's worth something on the margins. All right, Steven, let's 1116 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: get out here. If people are new to the podcast 1117 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: or just want to follow you more, where can folks 1118 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: find all of the musings? And look, you are much 1119 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: more prolific on social media about the brands than I am, 1120 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 1: So if people want to follow one of us on Twitter, 1121 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: it's probably you. Where can they find you? 1122 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I basically live tweet every game at this point 1123 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 2: unless it's a crazy start time. But yeah, Bonder Squattlers 1124 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 2: is the X handle Sean and Scott and I A'll 1125 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: still right over it. Battery Power. 1126 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm retired. 1127 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 2: Brad's got too many jobs as. 1128 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: Is, so that is accurate. 1129 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: But hey, but yeah, come hang out. We just passed 1130 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 2: our one year anniversary Marco this podcast, so we appreciate 1131 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: all the support. It's a great time to subscribe. If 1132 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: you haven't yet, we got you know. Obviously we're in 1133 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 2: full season mode now, so we're in the middle of it. 1134 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: Basically four shows every week and sometimes more than that, 1135 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 2: so come in check it out. 1136 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: Yep, Rocking and Rolling. Follow Steven. 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I don't 1146 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: know exactly when, but we can promise you we'll have 1147 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 1: content all week long about the Red Series and everything 1148 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: beyond that. So for Steven, my name is Brad. We'll 1149 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: sign off now, next One List thing. We'll see you 1150 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: all next time.