Speaker 1: All right, let's get going right here, right now. This
Speaker 1: is Eyes up Here. You're doing all right over there,
Speaker 1: distracting me. I'm trying to do an intro shirt and
Speaker 1: you're listening to all new Eyes up Here exclusively on
Speaker 1: our background channel as well as on the Creative Control
Speaker 1: podcast network. If you didn't know by now, my name
Speaker 1: is Chad. In every single week, I'm still distracted. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do an intro here. I'm joined by the
Speaker 1: Queen of extreme Francine. Who are you? Okay? Do you
Speaker 1: need a second peak out? That's how it is, but
Speaker 1: one boop is peaking out more than the other, so
Speaker 1: I'm trying to shimmy. That does not work. It there
Speaker 1: are supposed to be like this, Okay, there you go,
Speaker 1: but one boob was like, hey, how are you? An
Speaker 1: other group was like I'm not here. It's funny. I
Speaker 1: was gonna wear the same thing earlier, but I decided
Speaker 1: against it. I'm so glad you did. I was like,
Speaker 1: I had one or the other, let's go with this one.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you wore it. So what's going on? I
Speaker 1: came off a really good weekend. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the Square Circle Expo tons of people were there. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure, you know, what was going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I believe I was the only ECW representative that was booked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you were. I think I was original. I
Speaker 1: should say, yes, there's a lot of ae W people there.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of xwwf WWE people there, but
Speaker 1: I was the lone ECW original representative. But it was good.
Speaker 1: It was It was weird because people were actually arguing
Speaker 1: over COVID and the vaccine amongst the crowds, and you
Speaker 1: I heard, yeah, I heard people are arguing, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, really, are we doing that here? Like,
Speaker 1: come on. You know, before going in, I was told
Speaker 1: regulations said you have to wear your mask, you have
Speaker 1: to social distance and all this stuff. So I left
Speaker 1: my mask on like the whole time. And I think
Speaker 1: I was one of the only talents that did that
Speaker 1: because I look at these pictures and nobody's wearing their mask,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, we we thought we
Speaker 1: were supposed to wear a mask. But you know, and
Speaker 1: then you got the people saying, well, I'm vaccinated, take
Speaker 1: off your mask, and well I'm not vaccinated, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to leave my mask on, and it was just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't wait till this freaking pandemic's
Speaker 1: over because people are going insane. That's all I have
Speaker 1: to say about that. But everybody was very nice, gracious,
Speaker 1: and we were busy the whole time. I had traffic
Speaker 1: the whole time, and it was good and a funny story.
Speaker 1: The guy Chad another Chad An. There's so many Chads
Speaker 1: in my life. The man that I had met at
Speaker 1: Disney a couple of years ago, that he had the
Speaker 1: booth across from me. He's a character do you say
Speaker 1: that character? Caricature character character artists. He draws cartoons and
Speaker 1: people look silly. That's what he draws. He was across
Speaker 1: from me and I popped. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's Chad Cha Yes, yes, so shout out to Chad. Uh.
Speaker 1: He does great work. He did a drawing of me
Speaker 1: and I thought he was giving it to me, but no,
Speaker 1: he made me sign it and he took it away.
Speaker 1: But that was fun to see him, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: was It was a good time. I had a good time.
Speaker 1: I hung out, I got to hang out with some
Speaker 1: of our friends. Jimmy Wyne Yang was there, hung out
Speaker 1: with him, hung out with Medusa, hung out with sharp Boy.
Speaker 1: It was. It was nice, It was, it was a
Speaker 1: nice time. You definitely were the only mask person that
Speaker 1: I saw in the coverage of all the pictures and
Speaker 1: stuff people were sharing. You the only one, but you
Speaker 1: had your fashionable queen mask off. Yeah. Well, the first
Speaker 1: day I wore just the basic black dress, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is flashy, it's my bling. And then
Speaker 1: the second day I wore this very sparkly silver dress
Speaker 1: and that mask would have been atrocious with it. So
Speaker 1: I just donned the regular, regular black one. But I
Speaker 1: mean I was told I needed to wear one, so
Speaker 1: I wore it. I don't know, rule follower, I did.
Speaker 1: Everybody else I guess was a rebel, but not You're
Speaker 1: the only one, and you were in the rebel I know.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to get in trouble, you know,
Speaker 1: And I honestly, I don't know. But it was a
Speaker 1: good weekend nonetheless, and you know, I had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. How was the getting off the plane and
Speaker 1: running right to the to the venue. It's probably been
Speaker 1: a while to do something like that. So here's the
Speaker 1: funny part. My plane landed early. It landed out landed
Speaker 1: about thirty five to forty minutes early, and Chad didn't
Speaker 1: realize that it did. So he had just landed and
Speaker 1: he I guess he had to take an uber and
Speaker 1: he had just gotten to the hotel and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just landed, and he's like, I just got to
Speaker 1: the hotel. So he would have waited for me. So
Speaker 1: he had to come back and he found a guy
Speaker 1: who would drive him instead of doing the uber because
Speaker 1: the uber was sixty dollars both ways. You know, you
Speaker 1: do that a couple of times. It's expensive, that's very
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I'll wait and I was waiting
Speaker 1: not a baggage, but I was waiting on ground transportation,
Speaker 1: which was I guess the second level. By the time
Speaker 1: he gets back and gets Dan, he goes to baggage
Speaker 1: and he's like where are you. I'm like, I told you,
Speaker 1: I'm a ground transportation. They couldn't find me, so finally
Speaker 1: I had to walk back down stairs. So I wasn't
Speaker 1: picked up until after five o'clock. Oh wow, But I
Speaker 1: had landed at like four thirteen or four to ten
Speaker 1: or something like that, so you would have made it
Speaker 1: just in time or on time it start four or five. Oh,
Speaker 1: you would have been right there. Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 1: you made it. Yeah. It was quite the interesting weekend
Speaker 1: to watch, excuse me, a lot, I mean just and
Speaker 1: a good thing. It was overwhelming to see the response
Speaker 1: from the fans that were posting, because I was very
Speaker 1: happy to see from a convention point of view, people
Speaker 1: responded and people showed up and it looked like everybody
Speaker 1: was relatively busy. It was very busy. It was very big.
Speaker 1: There were a lot a lot of fans showed up,
Speaker 1: you know, and some had masks on and some said,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I take my mask off? And
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was it was like a
Speaker 1: normal convention, only people had mask on, right pretty much.
Speaker 1: But we were busy, you know, the whole time we
Speaker 1: were there. And then I did a virtual on top
Speaker 1: of the two days signing and that went well. And
Speaker 1: you know, I said, if every weekend could be this good,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind being on the road. Right, Sometimes you
Speaker 1: get duds in there, but this one was very, very profitable,
Speaker 1: So it was good. It was a good time. Any
Speaker 1: good delicacy in the Indiana area that you enjoyed. It
Speaker 1: was funny. The first night we go in, they had
Speaker 1: a restaurant in the hotel. It was an Italian restaurant.
Speaker 1: I'm using my quotes because the men you had like burgers,
Speaker 1: fried fish, like at the weirdest. It wasn't just Italian food.
Speaker 1: So we said we'll just eat there, and they were
Speaker 1: They weren't serving food after six point thirty and we
Speaker 1: had no clue and it was like nine o'clock. So
Speaker 1: we got drinks and we ordered pizza hut, and we figured,
Speaker 1: well we'll sit in here, yeah, because that was all
Speaker 1: that we could find was pizza. And I never I
Speaker 1: mean at home, I eat at five o'clock. We're early
Speaker 1: birds in the sause. We eat at five o'clock, done
Speaker 1: by five thirty, dishes are done by six, and we're
Speaker 1: all hanging out. I'm eating pizza at nine thirty ten
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. My stomach is getting ripped open. But
Speaker 1: I said, well, we'll have a cocktail. So my cocktail
Speaker 1: of Chorist is always fireball and cherry coke or coke
Speaker 1: with grenadine. And I told the waitress, you know, can
Speaker 1: you do no problem? She puts it in front of me,
Speaker 1: it is straight whiskey and it's not fireball. Jesus, I said,
Speaker 1: what is this? So after that first and it was
Speaker 1: a glass. It wasn't like a shot of whiskey. It
Speaker 1: was a whole glass. And like Chad ordered a mott
Speaker 1: I think he ordered a Moscow mule or something and
Speaker 1: he got a mojito. It was so randomly off, and
Speaker 1: so she came around for seconds and she's like, do
Speaker 1: you want another word? I was like, I do, but
Speaker 1: I'd like to drink that I ordered, and she ended
Speaker 1: up making it for me and she did it perfect.
Speaker 1: But the bartender was screwing up everybody's drinks. So I
Speaker 1: was a little tipsy because of I tall whiskey. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like I hated it, but
Speaker 1: I drank it because I didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: waste waste the drink. But so that was the first night.
Speaker 1: The second night, we went back in time and I
Speaker 1: had a delicious chicken chicken stuffed chicken with mushroom risotto,
Speaker 1: and it was so good that it looked like I
Speaker 1: licked my plate because there was nothing left. Well, we
Speaker 1: didn't eat all day either. We had no food all
Speaker 1: day long. So that was the first meal I had,
Speaker 1: and uh, I made it count because I ate the
Speaker 1: whole thing. And you said it was hot in the
Speaker 1: in the Oh my god, I said, am I going
Speaker 1: through menopause? Or is it warm in here? Because it
Speaker 1: was so hot, I was like perspiring. That's how bad
Speaker 1: it was. It didn't feel like they had the air on.
Speaker 1: So the next day I tweeted them and I was like,
Speaker 1: can you please crank the air up today because it
Speaker 1: was awful. You know, you got a bunch of wrestling
Speaker 1: fans packed like sardines and then you're you're standing there
Speaker 1: and it's just freaking hot. You know, it's not fun.
Speaker 1: And a lot of guests too. I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a ton of talent on the on the shows. A
Speaker 1: lot of the e W guys were there. I met
Speaker 1: Nyla Roche because I know Vicky Guerrero and Vicky and
Speaker 1: I met her. She was very sweet. I saw Britt
Speaker 1: Baker walk by. They had their own I think they
Speaker 1: their own room, like I guess was the aw So
Speaker 1: I didn't go in the room. But when I was
Speaker 1: getting off the elevator, Vicky and Nila were coming on,
Speaker 1: so I got to talk to them. It's not like
Speaker 1: you said anything complimentary about Britt Baker in the past
Speaker 1: like month or two, you know, where people might want
Speaker 1: to show a little bit of respect to those who
Speaker 1: came before them. But yeah, she just kind of walked
Speaker 1: by me like maybe you know what the younger generation
Speaker 1: they might not know. And that's okay. I don't take
Speaker 1: offense to it. I do, I do, but I just
Speaker 1: but here's what I can tell you though. It is
Speaker 1: not just wrestling, right, we just think like, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the old fans or whatever. I say something, my
Speaker 1: brother sends me the giff of old man yelling at
Speaker 1: the cloud. Right, That's what every time I complain about something.
Speaker 1: It's baseball. The older baseball players. They hate how they're
Speaker 1: getting ignored by today's current regime in the cross and
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to not like it doesn't just stick to
Speaker 1: one genre. It's it's cyclical, you know. It connects all
Speaker 1: different realms of entertainment and sports. Like everybody kind of
Speaker 1: feels the same way. I think. You gotta hello, that's hello,
Speaker 1: Lit'll shake little dead hand shake. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like I was I think I was.
Speaker 1: I was standing in the hall and she walked by
Speaker 1: or something. It wasn't like I was at my table
Speaker 1: and she looked at me and ignored me. I don't
Speaker 1: agree with I don't agree with that. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody says, well, you have to study who came before you,
Speaker 1: and you have to be respectful, and you have to
Speaker 1: do for me. It's like if you didn't watch ECW,
Speaker 1: it's fine. You know, maybe that wasn't your cup of tea,
Speaker 1: or maybe you were too young to experience it. And
Speaker 1: now you might be into today's wrestling and you don't
Speaker 1: watch the old stuff. I get it. You know. The
Speaker 1: only way I would be offended is if I will
Speaker 1: if I went up to her and I said hello, Francine,
Speaker 1: and then she looked at me, and then I might
Speaker 1: have said ECW and maybe she blew me off after that,
Speaker 1: then I would have been like, okay, bitch. But it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It's not like that. And everybody, for the most part,
Speaker 1: is respectful and nice. And you know, Nilo was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, blah blah blah, and I said,
Speaker 1: I admire your work, thank you so much. She's very
Speaker 1: soft spoken and very sweet and that's really the only
Speaker 1: aw person that I came in contact with, because, like
Speaker 1: I said, they had their own room and we were
Speaker 1: in another room. I saw Kevin, which was very nice
Speaker 1: jacket with his flashy jacket on his big you a f.
Speaker 1: I don't remember his jacket he had was like this big, crazy,
Speaker 1: flashy sports coast was it? I don't really remember, but
Speaker 1: I do, uh I do? I want to say that
Speaker 1: I was on Twitch. I was live on Twitch both
Speaker 1: days from the convention, and the Pope walked by and
Speaker 1: it was hysterical because he didn't see me. He just
Speaker 1: kept walking and he has professed his love to me
Speaker 1: in the past, so he just kept walking. He ignored me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh that's okay. I said, you
Speaker 1: could put me over on on you know, the the internet,
Speaker 1: but then you ignore me in real life. And he
Speaker 1: freaked out and he came running over and he took
Speaker 1: over my Twitch. My husband hilarious. It was great. But
Speaker 1: he looks great and he's doing great in the n
Speaker 1: w A. I'm very happy for, you know. And then
Speaker 1: we have to mention this new jack got the news
Speaker 1: when I was on twitch on Friday. Oh that's how
Speaker 1: you got the news, Yeah, I didn't hear, and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: let me try to go live, you know, because right,
Speaker 1: and the chat's going and then one guy in the
Speaker 1: chat says, oh, did you hear new Jack died? Yea,
Speaker 1: And I was like what yeah, And so I looked
Speaker 1: to my left and I said to Chad, he's saying
Speaker 1: nu Jack died. So Chad like was like what and
Speaker 1: he looks and then boom it just hit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it blew up. Now do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: it as an extra the whole? I want to talk
Speaker 1: about him as an extra, but talk about now what
Speaker 1: you want to. I mean, we're doing that. We'll just
Speaker 1: finish your story about I just that's not the way
Speaker 1: I wanted to find out, because then I had to
Speaker 1: stop the stream, like I was just like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like talking anymore. Yeah, I'm sad, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I found out they're a fan,
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel bad for his wife and
Speaker 1: his children, and uh, just I'm so sick of people
Speaker 1: from our locker room dying. Like it's it's just too much.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll talk, like I said, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it as an extra. And not wanting to tease it,
Speaker 1: not saying stay tuned, but I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the full thing. I have a couple of points I
Speaker 1: want to bring up, but that I mean it literally
Speaker 1: it dropped and I texted you, But I guess the
Speaker 1: second I texted you, you must have just found out.
Speaker 1: I texted Shane. Shane had known, I don't think by
Speaker 1: that point. Then he said I just got the call
Speaker 1: from you, and he yeah, we'll talk about it on
Speaker 1: the extra though it was quite quite the Friday for sure,
Speaker 1: and since even now people still talking about him, so
Speaker 1: we'll catch up on that. Yeah. I definitely brought the
Speaker 1: room down, and I just had this sick feeling in
Speaker 1: my stomach and I was like I have to go.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and everybody we understand, you know. And then
Speaker 1: fans coming over to the table, did you hear? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, if it was one person, it was
Speaker 1: one hundred people. Did you here? And it's like it's
Speaker 1: somebody said, of course she heard them, like oh did
Speaker 1: you know him? Well, of course she did. She worked
Speaker 1: with us, Like you know, everybody wants to be the
Speaker 1: first to tell you. I guess so, but it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, when people were telling me stories and giving
Speaker 1: me the X side and I was just sitting there
Speaker 1: like I can't deal with this right now, like please stops,
Speaker 1: it's too much. So yeah, anyway, a crazy, crazy week.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think there was another thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about, but oh did you see and
Speaker 1: it's just a funny side thing. As we wait for
Speaker 1: our guests to pop on, did you see the WWE
Speaker 1: zombie thing? No? I saw a picture. It was miss
Speaker 1: surrounded by four zombies excuse me, and everybody just telling
Speaker 1: me how stupid it was. And I said, well, what's
Speaker 1: the tie in? And they said Batista is doing a
Speaker 1: zombie movie? And I said, well, was Batista there? And
Speaker 1: they said no, where's the tie in? But then they
Speaker 1: just mention it and zombies appeared, so they it was
Speaker 1: a lumberjack match, and I guess they were unnamed lumberjacks
Speaker 1: and to tie in the movie, the zombies were the lumberjacks. Now,
Speaker 1: one guy I listened to said, here's the funny part.
Speaker 1: The lumberjacks followed the rules of the lumberjack match and
Speaker 1: threw the guys back into the ring. Would have thought
Speaker 1: zombies could have followed rules like that if they were
Speaker 1: true zombies, wouldn't they be biting them? Well, if they
Speaker 1: bit them and then the guys transformed into a zombie.
Speaker 1: So here's the clever part about wrestling. Right when it
Speaker 1: all works out, MS gets devoured, I guess by the
Speaker 1: zombies are surrounded by them. And he's now out for
Speaker 1: six months with like a knee injury, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: be off TV. So maybe he could come back against
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Speaker 1: to join the program. Yes, I have not seen him
Speaker 1: in forever. I think I saw him, I think in
Speaker 1: New York at the last Wrestle con and I saw
Speaker 1: him this past weekend at Squat Circle Expo, and I
Speaker 1: was like, please come on the show, and it's Sharp Boy. Welcome,
Speaker 1: Welcome the Eyes of here, Sharp Boy. Okay, so we're
Speaker 1: just starting from the beginning. Just start from the beginning. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: So I am thrilled that I saw you this past
Speaker 1: weekend at the Square Circle Expo. Now, I know, COVID
Speaker 1: has hit everybody really, really hard. This is one of
Speaker 1: the first conventions back for me since January of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Have you been out and about like before COVID, were
Speaker 1: you actively working or are you just like here and there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of here and there, you know, And
Speaker 1: then COVID pretty much brought everything to a complete halt.
Speaker 1: So it was it was really nice to get out
Speaker 1: and do this thing in Indianapolis. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: been such a long time. It was great to see everybody,
Speaker 1: great to connect with the fans again, it felt like
Speaker 1: things were kind of starting to get back to normal finally, right,
Speaker 1: And you had mentioned that you did you worked a
Speaker 1: tag Saturday night at the Square Circle Expo. When was
Speaker 1: the last match before this that you had? I want
Speaker 1: to say, I know I did something else in Indianapolis
Speaker 1: in the fall, and I might have had one other thing,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I would say no. You know,
Speaker 1: October was probably the last time I was in the ring,
Speaker 1: so just rust was just falling off me in the
Speaker 1: Stag team match. How did you feel? How's your body feeling?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm getting older now. Everything hurts more. It's
Speaker 1: it's not as much fun anymore. I mean, the you know,
Speaker 1: the entertaining part is still very fun, but then the
Speaker 1: way I feel after the match is over, you know,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the older you get, the herder
Speaker 1: this it's a young man's game, that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I find h I love conventions because even though I
Speaker 1: have trouble sometimes getting up and down out of my chair, right,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's less toll on the body, sure,
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, at this stage in
Speaker 1: the game, we've all earned the right to not bump
Speaker 1: anymore and just sign you know. I agree. So I
Speaker 1: love those. I love doing them. I want to land
Speaker 1: more of those. I because I've only done a handful. Really,
Speaker 1: Russell Con was a big one. I think maybe we
Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit. Was I saw you
Speaker 1: in New York City a couple of years ago at restaurant.
Speaker 1: That was the biggest one I've done. But I've done
Speaker 1: a handful of them, but not enough. I'd like to
Speaker 1: do more of those. It's like you said, when the
Speaker 1: when the biggest of you know, uh, physical thing you're
Speaker 1: doing is getting up, you know, up and down out
Speaker 1: of a chair. That's that's what you want at this
Speaker 1: stage in your career, right exactly? Well, I will if
Speaker 1: you want to do them. I will definitely keep an
Speaker 1: ear open, yeah, and try to help you as much
Speaker 1: as I can. You know, I think you should be
Speaker 1: on Cameo, yeah, because I'm so technologically great here. But
Speaker 1: the gear that you're wearing, the sharp Boy mask, I
Speaker 1: think it is a niche. I think you have that
Speaker 1: certain something and I think Cameo would be a great
Speaker 1: fit for you. But we can talk about that later, okay.
Speaker 1: I can get you involved in that if you'd like,
Speaker 1: what a recruiter? Yeah, yeah, what a recruiter. That's what
Speaker 1: I do. Uh. But we were talking before you started
Speaker 1: at the power plant in ninety nine. Yes, and tell
Speaker 1: us again who was in that group of guys that
Speaker 1: you started with. Well, right when I came in, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Yang had just started. Jamie Nobles also in my group,
Speaker 1: and then there were some guys that had already been
Speaker 1: there for a little while. I don't know where to start,
Speaker 1: Chuck Colombo, Mike Sanders, Alan Funk, crow Bar, a whole
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, it was a pretty good
Speaker 1: sized class when I first got there, and then of
Speaker 1: course things started to go downhill for the company, and
Speaker 1: then the cuts started to come, and it seemed like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, every mighty have been thirty or forty
Speaker 1: guys when I started, and by the end it got
Speaker 1: down to about a dozen or whatever, and so kind
Speaker 1: of the you know, the way what the joke was,
Speaker 1: if you saw the FedEx man come and you know,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there, you know, cutting him off,
Speaker 1: jumping before he can deliver the uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: paperwork that says you've been and cut. You know. The
Speaker 1: next man was the Big Heel. Yeah, when when you
Speaker 1: were training, were you thinking about like the cruiser weight division.
Speaker 1: You know, when they signed me, there was actually this
Speaker 1: project apparently that Eric Bischoff was doing that was, uh,
Speaker 1: it was going to be sort of like the way
Speaker 1: it was described to me, they were going to do
Speaker 1: like a Power Rangers pro wrestling, kind of like a
Speaker 1: separate project. And I was actually signed to be a
Speaker 1: part of that, and so was Jamie Noble. I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy Yang as well, and so we were brought in
Speaker 1: for the separate project that never wound up materializing. So
Speaker 1: some of us, Yeah, so some of us sort of
Speaker 1: got worked into the main roster as a result of
Speaker 1: that project getting scrapped. I think that's really interesting. I've
Speaker 1: never heard about that one. Yeah, it was some kind
Speaker 1: of separate project they were doing. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: really know that. The way it was describing me was
Speaker 1: sort of like Power Rangers. I think it was going
Speaker 1: to be like a kid oriented kind of show. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about that, Chad, I've heard about it
Speaker 1: in the past. Yes, huh. Okay, So it would have
Speaker 1: been a different show than Thunder or Nitro. You guys
Speaker 1: would have been the stars of this showing towards children,
Speaker 1: maybe like a Saturday Morning kind of you know, action
Speaker 1: adventure kind of wrestling themed thing for kids was kind
Speaker 1: of what I was picturing, but they wound up scrapping
Speaker 1: the project before it really you know, went anywhere at all.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So how did you enjoy your time at
Speaker 1: w CW. Did you find it, you know, pleasing, because
Speaker 1: I know, like going to coming from ECW, which I loved,
Speaker 1: and then going to a place like WWE, it just
Speaker 1: wasn't my cup of tea. But here you are, You're green,
Speaker 1: and you're you're switching over and you're you're getting on
Speaker 1: television quickly. That's what happened to me. Were you comfortable
Speaker 1: with the role that they gave you? Did you come
Speaker 1: up with the Shark Boy gimmick? Yeah, I'd been I'd
Speaker 1: been being I started doing Shark Boy in May of
Speaker 1: ninety seven, so it was a couple of years on
Speaker 1: the indies that I was doing. Yeah, I did. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you where I first kind of got recognized was
Speaker 1: I did the first Brian Pillman memorial show in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, and I know Chris Canyon was there, and
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the you know, he's sort
Speaker 1: of scouting and saw me and came up and talked
Speaker 1: to me, which you know, blew me away as I
Speaker 1: was a Mortis fan, so it was kind of you know,
Speaker 1: it was amazing to me. He came over and said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna keep an eye on you. You You
Speaker 1: got some talent and that sort of thing. Wow, Holy
Speaker 1: you know, holy cow. You couldn't ask for anything more
Speaker 1: than that. So then in ninety nine, I think I
Speaker 1: remember Terry Taylor was at that one, So it was
Speaker 1: kind of like w CW was sending people to sort
Speaker 1: of scout talent maybe at certain events, and the Pilman
Speaker 1: Shows was one of them. So ninety nine was really
Speaker 1: my big break. They I did a cruiserweight tournament. They
Speaker 1: put me over three times in one night. A big
Speaker 1: surprise happened at the end. Mick Foley and Al Snow
Speaker 1: and d Loo Brown ran out and lifted me up
Speaker 1: on their shoulders and carried me around the ring. And
Speaker 1: so this story of course made it back to WCW
Speaker 1: and I got signed right after that, so that was
Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, that's kind of the way it happened.
Speaker 1: You never know, who's watching you? Right, Well, it was
Speaker 1: a high profile thing the filming shows because all three
Speaker 1: of the major companies sent representatives WWEWCW, and ECW on
Speaker 1: every show was represented, and that was something that wasn't
Speaker 1: happening in the business at all at that time. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you would have done well in ECW. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everybody thinks I was there for some reason. I
Speaker 1: remember seeing you in ECW. I'm like, no, you don't,
Speaker 1: I was so Yeah, it seems like the gimmick, the
Speaker 1: gimmick would have fit right, It would have fit right
Speaker 1: in though. Yeah, I mean we you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of our wrestlers didn't really have gimmicks, so to speak.
Speaker 1: But I think yours, I think yours would have been
Speaker 1: a good fit for some some crazy reason, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it would have worked, right, I
Speaker 1: think so too. That's a shame. I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many people, there are so many people that wanted to
Speaker 1: work for EASW that never did work for ECW that
Speaker 1: I feel like if we had them, it just would
Speaker 1: have worked. And I think you would have been one
Speaker 1: of them. But thank you. Yeah, yeah, but I know
Speaker 1: there there was a gimmick for a little bit with
Speaker 1: you and Daphney. You were Shark where she was Sharp Girl.
Speaker 1: I feel like she came up with that. But what
Speaker 1: was the story behind that pairing. Yeah, she just kind
Speaker 1: of came to me and said, I really want to
Speaker 1: be Sharp Girl, and yeah, yeah, okay, I believe so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: she had said that to me, and she was really
Speaker 1: you know, she's like, I got I got somebody working
Speaker 1: on a mask. I know what I wanted to look like.
Speaker 1: And she was just very excited about the idea. And
Speaker 1: I was flattered because I was a fan of her work,
Speaker 1: you know in w CW. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that. If anybody's gonna be Shark Girl, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's got to be you obviously. So we
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah she did that and then we we
Speaker 1: did it I think maybe once or twice on TNA maybe,
Speaker 1: uh And then we did it on the indies, you know,
Speaker 1: and and that was really all we got to do
Speaker 1: with it. But always great working with her, and you know,
Speaker 1: she's an aw the sweetheart. There you go, there we are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the office in TNA didn't like the pairing. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure exactly what I know you know when when
Speaker 1: when I first it was kind of like I'd just
Speaker 1: gotten a TNA and they came to me with the idea,
Speaker 1: and I remember my first reaction was, well, they don't
Speaker 1: really know who I am yet, so it might be
Speaker 1: kind of soon to throw a second character, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I know I was I wasn't
Speaker 1: Initially I was a little bit resistant to doing it
Speaker 1: on TNA. I would rather establish Sharkboy for a few
Speaker 1: months and then oh, look and there's this sharp girl too.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought that would have been the way to do it.
Speaker 1: So I know, initially I may have drugged my feet
Speaker 1: a little bit on the idea, but you know, I
Speaker 1: was never opposed to it. I wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: It's just I thought it would have been smarter to
Speaker 1: establish shark Boy first, got you know, That's how I
Speaker 1: thought about it. Then. So you you've been working before
Speaker 1: the power plant. You said you were a couple of
Speaker 1: years in the indies, and then you get your big break.
Speaker 1: You work for WCW doesn't really work out because the
Speaker 1: company goes under, a year goes by, and then TNA
Speaker 1: comes around. Now, for that year, like, do you go
Speaker 1: back to the Indies? Are you heartbroken? Did you think
Speaker 1: your career was over? Like where's your mind at once?
Speaker 1: WCW folds. Yeah, I mean I never thought my career
Speaker 1: was over. Not at that point. I was. I was
Speaker 1: still pretty young, you know, I was in my early
Speaker 1: to mid twenties there, So I mean I still I
Speaker 1: figured I had plenty of time to you know, I
Speaker 1: just was gonna have to find another way back up,
Speaker 1: you know, back up there, you know. And the other
Speaker 1: thing was what's going to happen? Is it just going
Speaker 1: to be WWE and that's it, you know, not going
Speaker 1: to be another you know. So I was really excited
Speaker 1: to find out that Jarrett's were starting TNA, and I
Speaker 1: saw that as a big opportunity. I knew Jeff already
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Borash was very instrumental in helping me get
Speaker 1: a try out there as well. So between Jeff and Jeremy,
Speaker 1: I knew I would have at least have an opportunity
Speaker 1: with TNA. And I never left the inn DS, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean I was still kind
Speaker 1: of you know, even when I was with WCW. If
Speaker 1: an opportunity popped up, I thought I could go do
Speaker 1: another show. I would, And even when I was with TNA,
Speaker 1: I worked then D's pretty much the whole time. So
Speaker 1: you know, I never never I never really left the
Speaker 1: inn D's and I never gave up, especially at that
Speaker 1: point in time. I really thought that I still would
Speaker 1: get another opportunity, and thankfully I did so. So when
Speaker 1: you worked for WCW, you were allowed to work other shots.
Speaker 1: Even though you didn't say that, we figured out ways
Speaker 1: to do it, you know what I mean. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: when we were at the power Plant that you know,
Speaker 1: that was kind of the thing. We would, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: three or four of us would go do an Indian
Speaker 1: mum's the word hush hush, and you know they kind
Speaker 1: of look the other way. The big rule was don't
Speaker 1: get hurt. You know, as long as you didn't get
Speaker 1: hurt on the indie or there wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: a problem. But you know a lot of guys did that.
Speaker 1: I think not so much for the money. The money
Speaker 1: was just as terrible as it always is on the indies,
Speaker 1: but it was more the experience. A lot of us
Speaker 1: weren't working in front of crowds very often, just working
Speaker 1: out and the power plant was not quite the same thing. Now,
Speaker 1: did your opportunities have to go through the office or
Speaker 1: were you just booking yourself? Yeah, we were pretty much
Speaker 1: just booking ourselves. Yeah, it's pretty good. Well, the guys
Speaker 1: that are, the guys that were down there knew the
Speaker 1: places in Atlanta, around Atlanta where you could go and
Speaker 1: work an independent show, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: we would there were certain places that, like I said,
Speaker 1: the office just kind of looked the other way. You
Speaker 1: were in trouble if you got hurt though, and I
Speaker 1: found that out firsthand. So cause you got hurt on
Speaker 1: one of the shows. Yeah, Jimmy Yang kicked me in
Speaker 1: the ear and split my ear open. Yeah he was,
Speaker 1: he was, he was green as grass back then. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he it bled through the mask, that's how bad it was.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I had to I had to go
Speaker 1: to the doctor. I had to go to the emergency
Speaker 1: room that night, and they they glued it shut, you know,
Speaker 1: my ear right, and they said it should be fine.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll he'll, he'll back up everything to find
Speaker 1: just be very careful. So I had to go in
Speaker 1: the power plant the next morning, pretend like nothing was
Speaker 1: wrong with my ear. So I go to lock up
Speaker 1: with one of the other guys and on the lock
Speaker 1: up boom, blood everywhere. I'd busted it back open. So
Speaker 1: now I'm now w CW is sending me to the
Speaker 1: emergency room under the you know guy that I had
Speaker 1: been hurt at one of their practices. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: get there and the doctor's like, what is all over
Speaker 1: your This is glue? Did you just have this? You know?
Speaker 1: And he was furious with me. He's like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you got in the ring today like this, you know,
Speaker 1: he says. And they had to put this really painful
Speaker 1: stitch or two in there that was really awful, And
Speaker 1: he said, You're lucky I don't have to bring in
Speaker 1: a cosmetic surgeon. You almost lost your ear. So that
Speaker 1: was all that was all done under the guise of
Speaker 1: not letting the office find out we were doing independent shows. Now, now,
Speaker 1: can I make a suggestion, and this is probably twenty
Speaker 1: years too late, but why didn't you wear your mask
Speaker 1: to the paraplant that day and just cushing up that
Speaker 1: ear with a bunch of gauze and have the mask
Speaker 1: over you and nobody would have known about your ear maybe,
Speaker 1: but I would have had to do that for like
Speaker 1: two weeks or whatever, however long it takes for the
Speaker 1: ear to heal, right, of course, but you're at the gimmick.
Speaker 1: I mean, give it twenty four seven. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: wear my mask all day. Well yeah, and that's the
Speaker 1: other thing I would have stuck out. Nobody else will
Speaker 1: to wear their gimmick to practice. You were getting into role.
Speaker 1: I love it. I would in hindsight, I probably should
Speaker 1: have done exactly what you're saying. They want to cover
Speaker 1: it up your ear, for sure, and then you take
Speaker 1: the mask if you go, oh, I don't know, my
Speaker 1: ear got caught on something in the mask a little.
Speaker 1: What happened to it? It's no exactly. Wow. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So now you're in TNA. You said you
Speaker 1: were there for ten years, give or take. Yeah, my character,
Speaker 1: I think I had a contract for maybe nine or
Speaker 1: ten years. They would, you know, they'd put me on
Speaker 1: the shelf sometimes and take me back off the shelf,
Speaker 1: and so was it kind of felt very kind of
Speaker 1: off and on. But I was under contract to them
Speaker 1: for probably nine, maybe nine or ten years. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, yeah, why did you, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you they. It got to a point where I had,
Speaker 1: you know, a certain number of guaranteed dates, as you
Speaker 1: get with a contract, and I got a call from
Speaker 1: Terry Taylor and he said, we're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to meet your dates. We're probably gonna wind up
Speaker 1: exercising the out clause and maybe we'll talk about you know.
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm still under contract for another three,
Speaker 1: three or four months or whatever, and you're telling me
Speaker 1: I won't be working in that time. He said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't think we'll be able to match
Speaker 1: what we told you, you you know. So at that point,
Speaker 1: I said, well, you might as well just give me
Speaker 1: my release. Then he's like, you're asking for your release
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you're telling me you're going to
Speaker 1: keep me under contract for three or four months and
Speaker 1: not use me, so yeah, i'd rather, you know. He said, well,
Speaker 1: do you think you can find opportunities elsewhere? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can or not, but I
Speaker 1: know I don't want to stay in a contract with
Speaker 1: someone who's not going to use me, so yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I asked for my release. At that point, it just
Speaker 1: felt like the right time. But would you have been
Speaker 1: paid for that four months if you paid? Not the
Speaker 1: way my No, it wasn't a guaranteed, you know, not
Speaker 1: the way it was set up, I wouldn't have been paid.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would have rode that to the very
Speaker 1: last minute. If I was going to get paid. Sure,
Speaker 1: if I was getting a check every week, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not the way it was set up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you. So when you when you were released,
Speaker 1: what year was that? Oh gosh, I don't know. If
Speaker 1: I had to guess, would would that have been twenty ten?
Speaker 1: Right about then? Some something like that? Okay, so maybe
Speaker 1: the last decade you're not working for a major fred
Speaker 1: you're still doing indies here and there. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: Are you loving life more that you can make your
Speaker 1: own decisions? Oh that's a really good question. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I've I've completely rebooted things. I've got a new I'm
Speaker 1: on my second marriage, I've got a new kid. So yes,
Speaker 1: I enjoy I enjoy all that, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean as a new kid. I have a new kid.
Speaker 1: When I bought a new kid, Yeah no, I so
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I'm enjoying life more now. I do
Speaker 1: feel like I'm more in control. I'm definitely smarter about everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the business and family and everything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I see this, I see this is a
Speaker 1: good It's definitely a good time in my life, for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, do I miss being on national television? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean that's what kind of you know, made all
Speaker 1: of this possible, was getting to be on national TV
Speaker 1: and they made an action figure out of me, they
Speaker 1: put me in a video game. You know, of course
Speaker 1: you missed that kind of thing when it goes away,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm still kind of reaping the benefits
Speaker 1: of all of that now, so right. Yeah, And you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy is that you look back and people
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the eighties and the early nineties,
Speaker 1: these iconic names and the guys that will live on
Speaker 1: forever on shows. But your character, your gimmick is one
Speaker 1: of those modern day gimmicks that's going to be able
Speaker 1: to live on forever because people, as they find you
Speaker 1: and they see this shark mass, you become identifiable. And
Speaker 1: to think, you know, when I first started watching you,
Speaker 1: all the way back when you debuted in TNA, to now,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, it's unbelievable how long the gimmick has lasted.
Speaker 1: And that's a estimate to your work. Well, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like you said. With you, I
Speaker 1: always say kids love robots, insects and sharp you know,
Speaker 1: and like kids are just kids are just always going
Speaker 1: to be sort of drawing to this character. I saw
Speaker 1: it at the convention Indianapolis. These kids will come over
Speaker 1: and be, oh my, you know, and how do they
Speaker 1: know who I am? They're too young to see me
Speaker 1: on television there, you know, But it's because their parents
Speaker 1: or somebody said, hey, look there's this guy who dressed
Speaker 1: like a shark. And you know, thanks to YouTube, I'm
Speaker 1: alive forever and you know. So, yeah, it is one
Speaker 1: of those things. It's just gets hung around, and I hope,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you said, it'll just it'll just
Speaker 1: continue to stay around, you know. And I've been really
Speaker 1: lucky in that regard. I think no, absolutely, I think
Speaker 1: boobs have the same effects. They do different. Sometimes men
Speaker 1: will say, I don't know who you are, but it
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. Can I get sure? Hell that might
Speaker 1: even be more true than what I just said. Oh gosh, well,
Speaker 1: where can people find you if they want to know
Speaker 1: more about the Shark Boy. I'm on Twitter and my
Speaker 1: handle is a shark Boy twenty four underscore seven. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's me on Twitter, and that's really the best place
Speaker 1: because anything that happens I get on there and sort
Speaker 1: of talk about it, plug it or whatever. So that's
Speaker 1: what I would say. Come come visit me at Twitter.
Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter. Okay, well, I would love to
Speaker 1: talk to you a little more about getting you out
Speaker 1: there because I feel I can lend a helping hands,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Cool, awesome, that'd be great. Discuss stuff
Speaker 1: further later. But I'm so happy I ran into I
Speaker 1: love running into guys that I don't get to see
Speaker 1: very often, so you know, and like I said, you
Speaker 1: caught me after that first glass of whiskey, so I
Speaker 1: was but it was, you know what, I just thought
Speaker 1: of something else I could plug I have. I have
Speaker 1: a pro wrestling tease. Oh yeah, I'm on there. I'm
Speaker 1: on there. I got some T shirts on there. But
Speaker 1: so you just look under shark Boy. Yeah, I'm the
Speaker 1: only one there. You going, who else is dressed like this? Well?
Speaker 1: I love the gimmick. I think it's and like you said, it.
Speaker 1: You know, it draws. You're you're going to draw the
Speaker 1: kids because of the mask, but you're going to draw
Speaker 1: the adults because of your talent. Well, thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I love running into you too, And I
Speaker 1: don't do a whole lot of these things. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can tell that by by the problems
Speaker 1: I had with the technology here, but uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't do all. You know, like when you asked me,
Speaker 1: I said, I will do this for you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's so nice. I just felt
Speaker 1: like people should know what's going on with you. And
Speaker 1: if you do want to tip your toes in the water,
Speaker 1: we got to get your face out there. So even
Speaker 1: if it's under a mask, but this is how people
Speaker 1: know who you are. So I'm thrilled to chat with
Speaker 1: you and you know, keep in touch and if you
Speaker 1: need anything, let me know. All right, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Thank you both for having me. Thank you Francine, awesome,
Speaker 1: Thanks my friend. Okay, take care, guys, sayah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's finish up here on this end, so we don't
Speaker 1: we don't have to go and record you know, ten
Speaker 1: million times, but we'll go right into our patriots. So
Speaker 1: for the magic of editing, nobody had to go through
Speaker 1: what we had to get through getting Sharp Boy connected
Speaker 1: on a few different potential multi mediums here. But we
Speaker 1: got it done and that's the most important part. Now,
Speaker 1: his picture was frozen, but we just went with it
Speaker 1: right and that was fine because I heard him crystal clear,
Speaker 1: so exactly. It's such a nice guy. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: feel like he's again he's one of the ones that
Speaker 1: are underrated, and people, you know, may not know he's
Speaker 1: still out there, but he is. He's out and about
Speaker 1: and he looks great and he's just a nice person.
Speaker 1: So I really like Shark Boy. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: perfectly rated because you know, I don't really I don't
Speaker 1: know it. Yeah, I don't know how much of a
Speaker 1: discussion there was. He's pretty good as being the guy
Speaker 1: who's the shark, so he kind of in a class
Speaker 1: by himself and staple of those TNA days for a
Speaker 1: good ten years, you know, And I know I didn't
Speaker 1: realize he was there for that long. Yeah, prossive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it begs the question, why would you drop a
Speaker 1: guy like that if you can market him the way
Speaker 1: he was talking about but he's very smart about his business,
Speaker 1: so that's probably why they couldn't do it the way
Speaker 1: that they wanted to. All Right, And I've learned stuff
Speaker 1: that I didn't know, so I enjoy these interviews when
Speaker 1: when I could get popped like that because I had
Speaker 1: no clue, that's great, very cool, very cool. All Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm Patreon. I can't pop the little banners up
Speaker 1: because we're recording up oh right as we speak, So
Speaker 1: I'll have to just you'll have to take my word
Speaker 1: for it. Okay, First and foremost, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about New Jack, okay, and just talk about you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the you know, a long
Speaker 1: epic episode. It's just you know, quick memories, you know again,
Speaker 1: the reaction when you got the call, that kind of response,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But we'll talk about New Jack
Speaker 1: because it was. It was a very nice response from
Speaker 1: the wrestling world. I thought all weekend and still to
Speaker 1: this day. We are going to do any extreme? Remember
Speaker 1: we were talking about last week put extreme in front
Speaker 1: of everything and it sounds a little grittier. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do extreme, would you rather questions? Oh? How extreme
Speaker 1: are we? So they're basically the same, you know, dirty style.
Speaker 1: Would you rather questions? I just threw extreme on the
Speaker 1: front of it, Okay, okay, and then this is gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I swear I have never seen this. I vaguely remember
Speaker 1: maybe hearing about it, but I've I've witnessed this for
Speaker 1: the first time, and I have to bring it to
Speaker 1: the air. Okay, we are going to watch the fm
Speaker 1: W tenth Anniversary show with the we W Tag Team
Speaker 1: Championship on the line between He's Takatsu Oya and tetsu
Speaker 1: Hero Corota versus Raven and Tommy Dreamer with Francy. I've
Speaker 1: never seen this before. Okay, No, no, no, the the
Speaker 1: historyonics around it, or what I gotta talk to you about. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about? I remember the
Speaker 1: night I remember no no, no no, no no, Then you
Speaker 1: don't remember any if you're just saying you remember the night.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the details, Okay. This is
Speaker 1: everything of a Japanese wrestling show and a Japanese like
Speaker 1: entertainment show all rolled into a wrestling event. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember there was another woman in the ring with me,
Speaker 1: yes all but yes, yes, yes, that's the Oh. The
Speaker 1: match itself. I mean, I knew ECW work with VMW.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. What is going on
Speaker 1: is like I don't know what's going on because it's
Speaker 1: freaking Japanese and you could tell, you could tell, you
Speaker 1: could tell. So we'll watch that from the first entrance
Speaker 1: to the final exit. We're going to watch it. So
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Speaker 1: for Francine. I'm also on cameo, which you could book
Speaker 1: through my Twitter. I don't know when you hear this,
Speaker 1: but next Friday I will be live on Hannibal TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to get out
Speaker 1: in time or not. This will be out in time, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: So I'll be on live on Hannibal TV, which is
Speaker 1: on YouTube and I'm not sure about hold on. I
Speaker 1: think the time is two o'clock two o'clock Eastern time
Speaker 1: two o'clock Eastern Standard time. I will be live on
Speaker 1: YouTube being interviewed by Hannibal, So please come watch me
Speaker 1: live over there and give it a listen if you would.
Speaker 1: And as always, I hope you're staying safe, healthy and
Speaker 1: extreme and uh with that, that's RUP