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Speaker 1: All right, let's get going right here, right now. This

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Speaker 1: is Eyes up Here. You're doing all right over there,

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Speaker 1: distracting me. I'm trying to do an intro shirt and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to all new Eyes up Here exclusively on

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Speaker 1: our background channel as well as on the Creative Control

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Speaker 1: podcast network. If you didn't know by now, my name

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Speaker 1: is Chad. In every single week, I'm still distracted. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to do an intro here. I'm joined by the

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Speaker 1: Queen of extreme Francine. Who are you? Okay? Do you

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Speaker 1: need a second peak out? That's how it is, but

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to shimmy. That does not work. It there

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Speaker 1: are supposed to be like this, Okay, there you go,

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Speaker 1: but one boob was like, hey, how are you? An

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Speaker 1: other group was like I'm not here. It's funny. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna wear the same thing earlier, but I decided

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Speaker 1: against it. I'm so glad you did. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you wore it. So what's going on? I

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Speaker 1: came off a really good weekend. Yeah, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: the Square Circle Expo tons of people were there. I

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Speaker 1: I believe I was the only ECW representative that was booked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you were. I think I was original. I

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Speaker 1: should say, yes, there's a lot of ae W people there.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of xwwf WWE people there, but

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Speaker 1: It was It was weird because people were actually arguing

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Speaker 1: was just like, really, are we doing that here? Like,

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Speaker 1: my mask on like the whole time. And I think

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Speaker 1: then you got the people saying, well, I'm vaccinated, take

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't wait till this freaking pandemic's

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Speaker 1: over because people are going insane. That's all I have

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Speaker 1: the whole time, and it was good and a funny story.

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Speaker 1: The guy Chad another Chad An. There's so many Chads

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Speaker 1: in my life. The man that I had met at

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Speaker 1: that character? Caricature character character artists. He draws cartoons and

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Speaker 1: people look silly. That's what he draws. He was across

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Speaker 1: from me and I popped. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's Chad Cha Yes, yes, so shout out to Chad. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He does great work. He did a drawing of me

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Speaker 1: and I thought he was giving it to me, but no,

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Speaker 1: But that was fun to see him, and yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was It was a good time. I had a good time.

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Speaker 1: I hung out, I got to hang out with some

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating to not like it doesn't just stick to

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Speaker 1: and then there were some guys that had already been

424
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: there for a little while. I don't know where to start,

425
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: Chuck Colombo, Mike Sanders, Alan Funk, crow Bar, a whole

426
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, it was a pretty good

427
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: sized class when I first got there, and then of

428
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: course things started to go downhill for the company, and

429
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: then the cuts started to come, and it seemed like,

430
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, every mighty have been thirty or forty

431
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: guys when I started, and by the end it got

432
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: down to about a dozen or whatever, and so kind

433
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: of the you know, the way what the joke was,

434
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: if you saw the FedEx man come and you know,

435
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there, you know, cutting him off,

436
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: jumping before he can deliver the uh, you know, the

437
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: paperwork that says you've been and cut. You know. The

438
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: next man was the Big Heel. Yeah, when when you

439
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: were training, were you thinking about like the cruiser weight division.

440
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, when they signed me, there was actually this

441
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: project apparently that Eric Bischoff was doing that was, uh,

442
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: it was going to be sort of like the way

443
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: it was described to me, they were going to do

444
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: like a Power Rangers pro wrestling, kind of like a

445
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: separate project. And I was actually signed to be a

446
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: part of that, and so was Jamie Noble. I think

447
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Yang as well, and so we were brought in

448
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 1: for the separate project that never wound up materializing. So

449
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: some of us, Yeah, so some of us sort of

450
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: got worked into the main roster as a result of

451
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: that project getting scrapped. I think that's really interesting. I've

452
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: never heard about that one. Yeah, it was some kind

453
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: of separate project they were doing. I don't I don't

454
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: really know that. The way it was describing me was

455
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: sort of like Power Rangers. I think it was going

456
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: to be like a kid oriented kind of show. Interesting.

457
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: Did you hear about that, Chad, I've heard about it

458
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: in the past. Yes, huh. Okay, So it would have

459
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: been a different show than Thunder or Nitro. You guys

460
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: would have been the stars of this showing towards children,

461
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: maybe like a Saturday Morning kind of you know, action

462
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: adventure kind of wrestling themed thing for kids was kind

463
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: of what I was picturing, but they wound up scrapping

464
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: the project before it really you know, went anywhere at all.

465
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, So how did you enjoy your time at

466
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: w CW. Did you find it, you know, pleasing, because

467
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: I know, like going to coming from ECW, which I loved,

468
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: and then going to a place like WWE, it just

469
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: wasn't my cup of tea. But here you are, You're green,

470
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: and you're you're switching over and you're you're getting on

471
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: television quickly. That's what happened to me. Were you comfortable

472
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: with the role that they gave you? Did you come

473
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: up with the Shark Boy gimmick? Yeah, I'd been I'd

474
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: been being I started doing Shark Boy in May of

475
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: ninety seven, so it was a couple of years on

476
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: the indies that I was doing. Yeah, I did. I'll

477
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: tell you where I first kind of got recognized was

478
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: I did the first Brian Pillman memorial show in nineteen

479
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: ninety eight, and I know Chris Canyon was there, and

480
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the you know, he's sort

481
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: of scouting and saw me and came up and talked

482
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: to me, which you know, blew me away as I

483
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: was a Mortis fan, so it was kind of you know,

484
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: it was amazing to me. He came over and said,

485
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna keep an eye on you. You You

486
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: got some talent and that sort of thing. Wow, Holy

487
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, holy cow. You couldn't ask for anything more

488
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: than that. So then in ninety nine, I think I

489
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: remember Terry Taylor was at that one, So it was

490
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: kind of like w CW was sending people to sort

491
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: of scout talent maybe at certain events, and the Pilman

492
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: Shows was one of them. So ninety nine was really

493
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: my big break. They I did a cruiserweight tournament. They

494
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: put me over three times in one night. A big

495
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: surprise happened at the end. Mick Foley and Al Snow

496
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 1: and d Loo Brown ran out and lifted me up

497
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: on their shoulders and carried me around the ring. And

498
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: so this story of course made it back to WCW

499
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: and I got signed right after that, so that was

500
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, that's kind of the way it happened.

501
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: You never know, who's watching you? Right, Well, it was

502
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: a high profile thing the filming shows because all three

503
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: of the major companies sent representatives WWEWCW, and ECW on

504
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: every show was represented, and that was something that wasn't

505
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: happening in the business at all at that time. So yeah, yeah,

506
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I think you would have done well in ECW. Yeah,

507
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: and everybody thinks I was there for some reason. I

508
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: remember seeing you in ECW. I'm like, no, you don't,

509
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: I was so Yeah, it seems like the gimmick, the

510
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: gimmick would have fit right, It would have fit right

511
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: in though. Yeah, I mean we you know, a lot

512
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: of our wrestlers didn't really have gimmicks, so to speak.

513
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: But I think yours, I think yours would have been

514
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: a good fit for some some crazy reason, I don't know.

515
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like it would have worked, right, I

516
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: think so too. That's a shame. I mean, there's so

517
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: many people, there are so many people that wanted to

518
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: work for EASW that never did work for ECW that

519
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: I feel like if we had them, it just would

520
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: have worked. And I think you would have been one

521
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: of them. But thank you. Yeah, yeah, but I know

522
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: there there was a gimmick for a little bit with

523
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: you and Daphney. You were Shark where she was Sharp Girl.

524
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I feel like she came up with that. But what

525
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: was the story behind that pairing. Yeah, she just kind

526
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: of came to me and said, I really want to

527
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: be Sharp Girl, and yeah, yeah, okay, I believe so yeah, okay,

528
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: she had said that to me, and she was really

529
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, she's like, I got I got somebody working

530
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: on a mask. I know what I wanted to look like.

531
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: And she was just very excited about the idea. And

532
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I was flattered because I was a fan of her work,

533
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: you know in w CW. So I was like, yeah,

534
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: let's do that. If anybody's gonna be Shark Girl, and

535
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's got to be you obviously. So we

536
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah she did that and then we we

537
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: did it I think maybe once or twice on TNA maybe,

538
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: uh And then we did it on the indies, you know,

539
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: and and that was really all we got to do

540
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: with it. But always great working with her, and you know,

541
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: she's an aw the sweetheart. There you go, there we are. Yeah,

542
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: So the office in TNA didn't like the pairing. I'm

543
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: not sure exactly what I know you know when when

544
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: when I first it was kind of like I'd just

545
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: gotten a TNA and they came to me with the idea,

546
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and I remember my first reaction was, well, they don't

547
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: really know who I am yet, so it might be

548
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of soon to throw a second character, you know

549
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I know I was I wasn't

550
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: Initially I was a little bit resistant to doing it

551
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: on TNA. I would rather establish Sharkboy for a few

552
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: months and then oh, look and there's this sharp girl too.

553
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, I thought that, you know what I mean,

554
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: I thought that would have been the way to do it.

555
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: So I know, initially I may have drugged my feet

556
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: a little bit on the idea, but you know, I

557
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: was never opposed to it. I wanted to do it.

558
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: It's just I thought it would have been smarter to

559
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: establish shark Boy first, got you know, That's how I

560
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: thought about it. Then. So you you've been working before

561
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the power plant. You said you were a couple of

562
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: years in the indies, and then you get your big break.

563
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: You work for WCW doesn't really work out because the

564
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: company goes under, a year goes by, and then TNA

565
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: comes around. Now, for that year, like, do you go

566
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: back to the Indies? Are you heartbroken? Did you think

567
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: your career was over? Like where's your mind at once?

568
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: WCW folds. Yeah, I mean I never thought my career

569
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: was over. Not at that point. I was. I was

570
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: still pretty young, you know, I was in my early

571
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: to mid twenties there, So I mean I still I

572
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: figured I had plenty of time to you know, I

573
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: just was gonna have to find another way back up,

574
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, back up there, you know. And the other

575
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: thing was what's going to happen? Is it just going

576
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: to be WWE and that's it, you know, not going

577
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: to be another you know. So I was really excited

578
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: to find out that Jarrett's were starting TNA, and I

579
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: saw that as a big opportunity. I knew Jeff already

580
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Borash was very instrumental in helping me get

581
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: a try out there as well. So between Jeff and Jeremy,

582
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: I knew I would have at least have an opportunity

583
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: with TNA. And I never left the inn DS, to

584
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean I was still kind

585
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: of you know, even when I was with WCW. If

586
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity popped up, I thought I could go do

587
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: another show. I would, And even when I was with TNA,

588
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I worked then D's pretty much the whole time. So

589
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, I never never I never really left the

590
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: inn D's and I never gave up, especially at that

591
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: point in time. I really thought that I still would

592
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: get another opportunity, and thankfully I did so. So when

593
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: you worked for WCW, you were allowed to work other shots.

594
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Even though you didn't say that, we figured out ways

595
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: to do it, you know what I mean. Yeah, even

596
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: when we were at the power Plant that you know,

597
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: that was kind of the thing. We would, uh, you know,

598
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: three or four of us would go do an Indian

599
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: mum's the word hush hush, and you know they kind

600
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: of look the other way. The big rule was don't

601
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: get hurt. You know, as long as you didn't get

602
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: hurt on the indie or there wasn't going to be

603
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: a problem. But you know a lot of guys did that.

604
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I think not so much for the money. The money

605
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: was just as terrible as it always is on the indies,

606
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: but it was more the experience. A lot of us

607
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: weren't working in front of crowds very often, just working

608
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: out and the power plant was not quite the same thing. Now,

609
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: did your opportunities have to go through the office or

610
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: were you just booking yourself? Yeah, we were pretty much

611
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: just booking ourselves. Yeah, it's pretty good. Well, the guys

612
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: that are, the guys that were down there knew the

613
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: places in Atlanta, around Atlanta where you could go and

614
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: work an independent show, you know what I mean. So

615
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: we would there were certain places that, like I said,

616
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: the office just kind of looked the other way. You

617
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: were in trouble if you got hurt though, and I

618
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: found that out firsthand. So cause you got hurt on

619
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: one of the shows. Yeah, Jimmy Yang kicked me in

620
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: the ear and split my ear open. Yeah he was,

621
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: he was, he was green as grass back then. But yeah,

622
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: he it bled through the mask, that's how bad it was.

623
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I had to I had to go

624
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: to the doctor. I had to go to the emergency

625
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: room that night, and they they glued it shut, you know,

626
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: my ear right, and they said it should be fine.

627
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: You know, he'll he'll, he'll back up everything to find

628
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: just be very careful. So I had to go in

629
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: the power plant the next morning, pretend like nothing was

630
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: wrong with my ear. So I go to lock up

631
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: with one of the other guys and on the lock

632
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: up boom, blood everywhere. I'd busted it back open. So

633
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: now I'm now w CW is sending me to the

634
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: emergency room under the you know guy that I had

635
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: been hurt at one of their practices. Okay, So I

636
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: get there and the doctor's like, what is all over

637
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: your This is glue? Did you just have this? You know?

638
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: And he was furious with me. He's like, I can't

639
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: believe you got in the ring today like this, you know,

640
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: he says. And they had to put this really painful

641
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: stitch or two in there that was really awful, And

642
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: he said, You're lucky I don't have to bring in

643
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: a cosmetic surgeon. You almost lost your ear. So that

644
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: was all that was all done under the guise of

645
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: not letting the office find out we were doing independent shows. Now, now,

646
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: can I make a suggestion, and this is probably twenty

647
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: years too late, but why didn't you wear your mask

648
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: to the paraplant that day and just cushing up that

649
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: ear with a bunch of gauze and have the mask

650
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: over you and nobody would have known about your ear maybe,

651
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: but I would have had to do that for like

652
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: two weeks or whatever, however long it takes for the

653
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: ear to heal, right, of course, but you're at the gimmick.

654
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, give it twenty four seven. I'm just gonna

655
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: wear my mask all day. Well yeah, and that's the

656
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: other thing I would have stuck out. Nobody else will

657
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: to wear their gimmick to practice. You were getting into role.

658
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: I love it. I would in hindsight, I probably should

659
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: have done exactly what you're saying. They want to cover

660
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: it up your ear, for sure, and then you take

661
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: the mask if you go, oh, I don't know, my

662
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: ear got caught on something in the mask a little.

663
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: What happened to it? It's no exactly. Wow. Wow, that's

664
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So now you're in TNA. You said you

665
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: were there for ten years, give or take. Yeah, my character,

666
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I think I had a contract for maybe nine or

667
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: ten years. They would, you know, they'd put me on

668
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: the shelf sometimes and take me back off the shelf,

669
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: and so was it kind of felt very kind of

670
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: off and on. But I was under contract to them

671
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: for probably nine, maybe nine or ten years. Wow, that's

672
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, yeah, why did you, I'll tell

673
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: you they. It got to a point where I had,

674
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, a certain number of guaranteed dates, as you

675
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: get with a contract, and I got a call from

676
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Terry Taylor and he said, we're not going to be

677
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: able to meet your dates. We're probably gonna wind up

678
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: exercising the out clause and maybe we'll talk about you know.

679
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm still under contract for another three,

680
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: three or four months or whatever, and you're telling me

681
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I won't be working in that time. He said, no,

682
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't think we'll be able to match

683
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: what we told you, you you know. So at that point,

684
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: I said, well, you might as well just give me

685
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: my release. Then he's like, you're asking for your release

686
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you're telling me you're going to

687
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: keep me under contract for three or four months and

688
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: not use me, so yeah, i'd rather, you know. He said, well,

689
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: do you think you can find opportunities elsewhere? And I said, well,

690
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can or not, but I

691
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: know I don't want to stay in a contract with

692
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: someone who's not going to use me, so yeah, that's

693
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: I asked for my release. At that point, it just

694
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: felt like the right time. But would you have been

695
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: paid for that four months if you paid? Not the

696
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: way my No, it wasn't a guaranteed, you know, not

697
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: the way it was set up, I wouldn't have been paid.

698
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would have rode that to the very

699
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: last minute. If I was going to get paid. Sure,

700
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: if I was getting a check every week, yeah, no problem.

701
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not the way it was set up. Okay,

702
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I got you. So when you when you were released,

703
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: what year was that? Oh gosh, I don't know. If

704
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: I had to guess, would would that have been twenty ten?

705
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Right about then? Some something like that? Okay, so maybe

706
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: the last decade you're not working for a major fred

707
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: you're still doing indies here and there. Yeah, pretty much.

708
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: Are you loving life more that you can make your

709
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: own decisions? Oh that's a really good question. I'll tell you.

710
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: I've I've completely rebooted things. I've got a new I'm

711
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: on my second marriage, I've got a new kid. So yes,

712
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: I enjoy I enjoy all that, you know what I

713
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: mean as a new kid. I have a new kid.

714
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: When I bought a new kid, Yeah no, I so

715
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I'm enjoying life more now. I do

716
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: feel like I'm more in control. I'm definitely smarter about everything.

717
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the business and family and everything.

718
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, I see this, I see this is a

719
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: good It's definitely a good time in my life, for sure.

720
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, do I miss being on national television? Yeah?

721
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean that's what kind of you know, made all

722
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: of this possible, was getting to be on national TV

723
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: and they made an action figure out of me, they

724
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: put me in a video game. You know, of course

725
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: you missed that kind of thing when it goes away,

726
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm still kind of reaping the benefits

727
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: of all of that now, so right. Yeah, And you

728
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: know what's crazy is that you look back and people

729
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the eighties and the early nineties,

730
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: these iconic names and the guys that will live on

731
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: forever on shows. But your character, your gimmick is one

732
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: of those modern day gimmicks that's going to be able

733
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: to live on forever because people, as they find you

734
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: and they see this shark mass, you become identifiable. And

735
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: to think, you know, when I first started watching you,

736
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: all the way back when you debuted in TNA, to now,

737
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: it's like, well, it's unbelievable how long the gimmick has lasted.

738
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: And that's a estimate to your work. Well, thank you. Yeah,

739
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like you said. With you, I

740
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: always say kids love robots, insects and sharp you know,

741
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: and like kids are just kids are just always going

742
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: to be sort of drawing to this character. I saw

743
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: it at the convention Indianapolis. These kids will come over

744
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: and be, oh my, you know, and how do they

745
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: know who I am? They're too young to see me

746
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: on television there, you know, But it's because their parents

747
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: or somebody said, hey, look there's this guy who dressed

748
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: like a shark. And you know, thanks to YouTube, I'm

749
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: alive forever and you know. So, yeah, it is one

750
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: of those things. It's just gets hung around, and I hope,

751
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you said, it'll just it'll just

752
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: continue to stay around, you know. And I've been really

753
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: lucky in that regard. I think no, absolutely, I think

754
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: boobs have the same effects. They do different. Sometimes men

755
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: will say, I don't know who you are, but it

756
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. Can I get sure? Hell that might

757
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: even be more true than what I just said. Oh gosh, well,

758
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: where can people find you if they want to know

759
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: more about the Shark Boy. I'm on Twitter and my

760
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: handle is a shark Boy twenty four underscore seven. Uh,

761
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: that's me on Twitter, and that's really the best place

762
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: because anything that happens I get on there and sort

763
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: of talk about it, plug it or whatever. So that's

764
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: what I would say. Come come visit me at Twitter.

765
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter. Okay, well, I would love to

766
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: talk to you a little more about getting you out

767
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: there because I feel I can lend a helping hands,

768
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: so to speak. Cool, awesome, that'd be great. Discuss stuff

769
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: further later. But I'm so happy I ran into I

770
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: love running into guys that I don't get to see

771
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: very often, so you know, and like I said, you

772
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: caught me after that first glass of whiskey, so I

773
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: was but it was, you know what, I just thought

774
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: of something else I could plug I have. I have

775
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: a pro wrestling tease. Oh yeah, I'm on there. I'm

776
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: on there. I got some T shirts on there. But

777
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: so you just look under shark Boy. Yeah, I'm the

778
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: only one there. You going, who else is dressed like this? Well?

779
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: I love the gimmick. I think it's and like you said, it.

780
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, it draws. You're you're going to draw the

781
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: kids because of the mask, but you're going to draw

782
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: the adults because of your talent. Well, thank you. I

783
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I love running into you too, And I

784
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: don't do a whole lot of these things. I don't

785
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: know if you can tell that by by the problems

786
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: I had with the technology here, but uh, yeah, I

787
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: don't do all. You know, like when you asked me,

788
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: I said, I will do this for you. I appreciate that.

789
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's so nice. I just felt

790
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: like people should know what's going on with you. And

791
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: if you do want to tip your toes in the water,

792
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: we got to get your face out there. So even

793
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: if it's under a mask, but this is how people

794
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: know who you are. So I'm thrilled to chat with

795
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: you and you know, keep in touch and if you

796
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: need anything, let me know. All right, thank you so much,

797
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: Thank you both for having me. Thank you Francine, awesome,

798
00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Thanks my friend. Okay, take care, guys, sayah, all right,

799
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: let's finish up here on this end, so we don't

800
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: we don't have to go and record you know, ten

801
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: million times, but we'll go right into our patriots. So

802
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: for the magic of editing, nobody had to go through

803
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: what we had to get through getting Sharp Boy connected

804
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: on a few different potential multi mediums here. But we

805
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: got it done and that's the most important part. Now,

806
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: his picture was frozen, but we just went with it

807
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: right and that was fine because I heard him crystal clear,

808
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: so exactly. It's such a nice guy. Yes, and I

809
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: feel like he's again he's one of the ones that

810
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: are underrated, and people, you know, may not know he's

811
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: still out there, but he is. He's out and about

812
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: and he looks great and he's just a nice person.

813
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: So I really like Shark Boy. I don't think he's

814
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: perfectly rated because you know, I don't really I don't

815
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: know it. Yeah, I don't know how much of a

816
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: discussion there was. He's pretty good as being the guy

817
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: who's the shark, so he kind of in a class

818
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: by himself and staple of those TNA days for a

819
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: good ten years, you know, And I know I didn't

820
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: realize he was there for that long. Yeah, prossive. Yeah,

821
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: And it begs the question, why would you drop a

822
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: guy like that if you can market him the way

823
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: he was talking about but he's very smart about his business,

824
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: so that's probably why they couldn't do it the way

825
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: that they wanted to. All Right, And I've learned stuff

826
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: that I didn't know, so I enjoy these interviews when

827
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: when I could get popped like that because I had

828
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: no clue, that's great, very cool, very cool. All Right,

829
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: So I'm Patreon. I can't pop the little banners up

830
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: because we're recording up oh right as we speak, So

831
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: I'll have to just you'll have to take my word

832
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: for it. Okay, First and foremost, we're going to talk

833
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: about New Jack, okay, and just talk about you know,

834
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the you know, a long

835
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: epic episode. It's just you know, quick memories, you know again,

836
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: the reaction when you got the call, that kind of response,

837
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But we'll talk about New Jack

838
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: because it was. It was a very nice response from

839
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: the wrestling world. I thought all weekend and still to

840
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: this day. We are going to do any extreme? Remember

841
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: we were talking about last week put extreme in front

842
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: of everything and it sounds a little grittier. Well, we're

843
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna do extreme, would you rather questions? Oh? How extreme

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Speaker 1: are we? So they're basically the same, you know, dirty style.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather questions? I just threw extreme on the

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Speaker 1: front of it, Okay, okay, and then this is gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I swear I have never seen this. I vaguely remember

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Speaker 1: maybe hearing about it, but I've I've witnessed this for

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Speaker 1: the first time, and I have to bring it to

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Speaker 1: the air. Okay, we are going to watch the fm

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Speaker 1: W tenth Anniversary show with the we W Tag Team

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Speaker 1: Championship on the line between He's Takatsu Oya and tetsu

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Speaker 1: Hero Corota versus Raven and Tommy Dreamer with Francy. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen this before. Okay, No, no, no, the the

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Speaker 1: historyonics around it, or what I gotta talk to you about. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about? I remember the

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Speaker 1: night I remember no no, no no, no no, Then you

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Speaker 1: don't remember any if you're just saying you remember the night.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about the details, Okay. This is

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Speaker 1: everything of a Japanese wrestling show and a Japanese like

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Speaker 1: entertainment show all rolled into a wrestling event. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: remember there was another woman in the ring with me,

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Speaker 1: yes all but yes, yes, yes, that's the Oh. The

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Speaker 1: match itself. I mean, I knew ECW work with VMW.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. What is going on

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Speaker 1: is like I don't know what's going on because it's

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Speaker 1: freaking Japanese and you could tell, you could tell, you

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Speaker 1: could tell. So we'll watch that from the first entrance

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Speaker 1: to the final exit. We're going to watch it. So

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Speaker 1: that's Patreon. Well let's go. If you want to follow me,

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Speaker 1: it's at Chad E and B on Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I am across the board on social media at ECWD

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Speaker 1: for Francine. I'm also on cameo, which you could book

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Speaker 1: through my Twitter. I don't know when you hear this,

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Speaker 1: but next Friday I will be live on Hannibal TV.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to get out

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Speaker 1: in time or not. This will be out in time, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'll be on live on Hannibal TV, which is

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and I'm not sure about hold on. I

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Speaker 1: think the time is two o'clock two o'clock Eastern time

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Speaker 1: two o'clock Eastern Standard time. I will be live on

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Speaker 1: YouTube being interviewed by Hannibal, So please come watch me

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Speaker 1: live over there and give it a listen if you would.

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Speaker 1: And as always, I hope you're staying safe, healthy and

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Speaker 1: extreme and uh with that, that's RUP