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Speaker 1: Blumhouse Television, and Psycopia Pictures. J August fifth. I woke
Speaker 1: up in the pool of my own sweat this morning.
Speaker 1: It was three thirty three am, exactly three thirty three.
Speaker 1: The hotel room was sweltering. The acunit had been blown
Speaker 1: out in hot air all night. I took my mind
Speaker 1: a minute to catch up to where I was, to
Speaker 1: realize that I wasn't still back in my New York apartment,
Speaker 1: that I was back home. I thought this had all
Speaker 1: just been an elaborate dream. But it wasn't a dream.
Speaker 1: I had to listen back to my tape, the recordings
Speaker 1: from yesterday, to find out where I'd been and what
Speaker 1: I'd done. And his biological father was Deacon Hadley. There
Speaker 1: is if you remember what the detective was looking for
Speaker 1: when he stopped by that last time back in July
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven containers records. I hopped in the shower.
Speaker 1: The school off water was ice cold, never got hot,
Speaker 1: And as soon as I stepped into that cold shower,
Speaker 1: the nightmare came back to me. There were bats, thousands
Speaker 1: of bats, shifting blotches against other shades of darkness, a cavern,
Speaker 1: deep and strange. I was staring into the whirling black
Speaker 1: on black. Then I heard deaconheading. He was calling out
Speaker 1: further back in the void, I heard him crying. That's
Speaker 1: how I followed the voice, straining to hear over the
Speaker 1: cacophony of bats swirling around me, anguished please, for forgiveness.
Speaker 1: Then he stopped, and all I heard was the flutter
Speaker 1: and chirp in of those bats. They seemed to converge
Speaker 1: around me, and then they exploded out worth the whole colony,
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of them, leaving the cave in a funnel,
Speaker 1: carrying Thomas Hadley's final anguish cries with them across the forest,
Speaker 1: over the ramshackle trailer homes and cabins, over the Chapel
Speaker 1: Wall River into Pottsville, all the way into my own bedroom.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly I was back there in the house.
Speaker 1: I grew up in my own bed, and the gray
Speaker 1: Man was there too, in the room with me, silhouetted
Speaker 1: in the doorway. I couldn't move. He looked down upon me.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was able to the ground. Who else might
Speaker 1: a going out to the caves that day? Someone always
Speaker 1: knows something. I wanted to stand up for him, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't. Not the time Deacon Hadley threw a couple
Speaker 1: of warrant pists on his head from the second story bathroom,
Speaker 1: and not the time Thomas Hadley locked him as a locker.
Speaker 1: I wanted to stop it, but I knew it would
Speaker 1: just make matters worse for me. This is why he
Speaker 1: came home, isn't it. James Fancher's executions coming up in
Speaker 1: your anguish too, Angel. There's no small thing to stand
Speaker 1: up to a bully. When you do, you become the target.
Speaker 1: I've been bullied quite a bit when I was a boy.
Speaker 1: Wasn't until I befriended Tyler Wilson in the ninth grade
Speaker 1: that had stopped. Tyler was from a different neck of
Speaker 1: the woods. He was quiet and kept to himself, but
Speaker 1: he was tough. No, the Hadley gang didn't want to
Speaker 1: fuck with Tyler. It was too much trouble. They might
Speaker 1: actually have to fight, and they knew Tyler would fight
Speaker 1: for real. But after my battle on the bus with
Speaker 1: Duley Tapper trying to stand up for Finch, the bullying
Speaker 1: started again for me. I don't look who where's the pants?
Speaker 1: I told you they was gay livers, didn't I you're
Speaker 1: gonna get it in half? Faget. I don't even get that.
Speaker 1: Next week, my dad had to pick me up from school.
Speaker 1: He saw the Hadley gang laughing and throwing threats. As
Speaker 1: I walked past, he comes, I fag it, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get it soon or not. Fucker A time's coming, little
Speaker 1: bitch scate. Yeah, I'm whip his ass and gain I'm
Speaker 1: gonna whip your ass again. Those your friends not exactly
Speaker 1: forget a dad best just to adoring on. Those are
Speaker 1: Bobby Handley's kids. Yeah, it's it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: My dad ran the mechanic shop at the Hadley dealership
Speaker 1: and it was no secret in our house that he
Speaker 1: despised Bobby Hadley. H get messing with you again? What
Speaker 1: this is? This is high school. It's it ain't like that, dad, Really,
Speaker 1: those guys are just pricks. It's not worth the energy.
Speaker 1: He was livid. Things were beyond his control. It was
Speaker 1: less than a year since Mom died too. Anyway, A
Speaker 1: couple of days later, I was reading in the library
Speaker 1: during lunch. That's when they got me. I was sitting
Speaker 1: between the rows of bookshelves in the back with Thomas,
Speaker 1: Deacon Dually and the rest of them. They cornered me.
Speaker 1: Thomas held me in a headlock. Due we hit my
Speaker 1: face and box. That wasn't so bad, but then Deacon
Speaker 1: gotta para scissors off the librarian's desk. They pulled my
Speaker 1: pants down to my ankles. Hey what He scissored the
Speaker 1: blades in front of my face to show them off,
Speaker 1: before he pressed a cold, sharp metal blades against my bass.
Speaker 1: What are you anyway? Boy or a bitch? Hey? You
Speaker 1: know what? I'll tell you what a man? Maybe name
Speaker 1: send me? He's such a pussy, Just get off. Then
Speaker 1: he grabs stress full of my hair and it was loan.
Speaker 1: Then he scissored it off and tossed it on the carpet.
Speaker 1: Just then the library mother came back in and put
Speaker 1: mencim Thomas and the rest of them all bring off.
Speaker 1: Was laughing there were a few other kids in the
Speaker 1: library who did nothing but gawk at me while I
Speaker 1: pulled my pants back up. Well, my father picked me
Speaker 1: up that afternoon. He saw my hair and my swollen face,
Speaker 1: and there was no deny at it anymore. His son
Speaker 1: was the target of the town police, and there was
Speaker 1: nothing he could do. August fifth, on my way to
Speaker 1: meet Joe Campbell again, up the road, halfway to Nashville.
Speaker 1: I'm late. I can't seem to wake up all the way.
Speaker 1: She just stopped at the Myrtles for a coffee. It's
Speaker 1: a little diner we used to go to when I
Speaker 1: was a Kid's still standing. Not so sure about missus
Speaker 1: Myrtle though. I feel like a ghost in this town.
Speaker 1: Lots of familiar faces from my past, everyone older and heavier.
Speaker 1: They make eye contact with me and their real spin.
Speaker 1: Some recognize me of familiar face registers in their mind,
Speaker 1: but they can't quite place me, so they stare. Others
Speaker 1: remember me, and I'm guessing by their looks. You recall
Speaker 1: certain feelings, feelings associated with the Hadley Brothers murders, especially now.
Speaker 1: You can feel the energy just driving through town. James Fincher,
Speaker 1: the monster and Man of war County is going to
Speaker 1: be put to death next week, and that seems to
Speaker 1: inform every interaction. It's an added tension that's come with
Speaker 1: this fog, the air tingling like a mom on a
Speaker 1: timer tick tick boom, a county judge ordered, and no
Speaker 1: knock worn on the trailer that James Fincher shared with
Speaker 1: his sister Dina, and Buck's elder lane over in splinter gap,
Speaker 1: you can see from the only available footage a state
Speaker 1: trooper's body camp, that it's complete chaos, with county and
Speaker 1: state officials working in tandem and flooded in the small
Speaker 1: space with light and the noise and the terror. At
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning, Dina's face seemed briefly mouth
Speaker 1: opened to scream, hair swept across her face as she
Speaker 1: spirited out. Bally swollen with child tells the tale. In
Speaker 1: the motion blur, you can see a streak of red
Speaker 1: a nose bleed. What's perhaps more chun is how calmly
Speaker 1: we see Finch rise from the couch that he slept on,
Speaker 1: hands up, eyes dead, mouth a grim line, and then
Speaker 1: slowly turned and sink to his knees like it was inevitable,
Speaker 1: like he knew they were coming, like he always knew
Speaker 1: that they would come for him. Eventually, he was brought
Speaker 1: to the county jail in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and the town at large was completely unaware of the developments.
Speaker 1: Even Detective Silomon Smith was left in the dark and
Speaker 1: would have remained so if he didn't decide to pay
Speaker 1: the Fincher home and visit himself two days later to
Speaker 1: find broken windows and a very terrified Dina trying to
Speaker 1: put things back in order. Jill Campbell explained it best.
Speaker 1: That's per usual. People have a complicated relationship with the
Speaker 1: law out here. People here liked to be left alone.
Speaker 1: Think what happens behind closed doors are on their property
Speaker 1: is their business and theirs alone. I mean, most of
Speaker 1: it is a run of the male constitutional rights and
Speaker 1: individual freedom stuff. Deah, my dad, it was that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well most people are. Then you got your griff Washingtons,
Speaker 1: the dog fighting rings, the meth cooks, the real criminal element,
Speaker 1: people who have something to hide. But Buddy, there ain't
Speaker 1: nothing that changes the patriots mind about authority like an
Speaker 1: outsider coming in and making trouble. L Finch, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Detective Smith. Now, I don't want to say it
Speaker 1: was a race thing. But it was absolutely a race thing.
Speaker 1: I mean by default. Look, Share Hooper, born and raised
Speaker 1: here all his life, getting ready to close this case
Speaker 1: against a kid who allegedly murdered two of Mani Wak's
Speaker 1: favorite sons, and the moment he announces it incomes some
Speaker 1: former big city Atlanta cop to defend the alleged murderer.
Speaker 1: At the time, I was caught up in all the excitement.
Speaker 1: I was there at the raid. It was the most
Speaker 1: badass thing I'd ever done. Didn't matter that Dana was
Speaker 1: screaming or that James gave up without a fight. I
Speaker 1: was young. I got to play hero. It didn't even
Speaker 1: occur to me that we may have had shit wrong
Speaker 1: until the article came out. The article What an article?
Speaker 1: Detective Smith went to the local press. A couple of
Speaker 1: days later, a story printed about James Fincher with Solomon
Speaker 1: owned records suggesting ulterior motives for the rest of Finch
Speaker 1: no shit. Other publications picked it up to Smith publicly
Speaker 1: called out the sheriff, the mayor, the reverend, basically torturing
Speaker 1: every bridge he ever crossed in manu Wake County. What
Speaker 1: was the last time you saw him Detective Smith. Well
Speaker 1: after the news piece broke, I wrote with Hooper out
Speaker 1: to the old fowl or place where Solomon was living
Speaker 1: and had that go. Hooper made me wait on the porch.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of shouting and then it got quiet,
Speaker 1: and then and then Hooper came out. His face was
Speaker 1: flushed and sweaty. He wouldn't make eye contact. He was
Speaker 1: visibly mad as hell. Anyway, last I saw Solomon Smith
Speaker 1: was as we were pulling out. He was standing on
Speaker 1: the porch, hands on his hips, just to find as
Speaker 1: hell to Hooper SAE what had happened. Hooper told Smith
Speaker 1: he was no longer welcome and man of walk count
Speaker 1: in that if he knew what was good for him,
Speaker 1: he'd leave quietly. But I don't think Detective Smith left
Speaker 1: because of Hooper. I think he knew who the killer
Speaker 1: was before he disappeared. He was looking into the school
Speaker 1: attendance records from Carter High. He was tracking whoever else
Speaker 1: was absent from school that day. You think he would
Speaker 1: have submitted those records as evidence had it not. If
Speaker 1: it was after he was off the case. He couldn't
Speaker 1: exactly trust the sheriff's office. He was basically a private investigator.
Speaker 1: At that point, he'd set a meeting with James's defense attorney,
Speaker 1: but he never showed up. So whatever Solomon Smith knew,
Speaker 1: he took that intel with him to wherever it is
Speaker 1: he went. Where was you last seen? I'm not sure
Speaker 1: they found his car though, about a decade ago, just
Speaker 1: north of here. I think I don't remember. Maybe I
Speaker 1: can dig up the police report, or maybe you can
Speaker 1: talk to the guys at the newspaper. August fifth, two
Speaker 1: forty five pm. I took Joe's advice. I'm on my
Speaker 1: way to the Pottsville Press to talk to a guy
Speaker 1: named Ian Spanks, the editor in chief. Maybe Detective Smith
Speaker 1: told the press something, something more than what they decided
Speaker 1: to print. Mister Spinks, Julian Solace, mister Slace, come in.
Speaker 1: You can call me Jolian. Looking a little rough around
Speaker 1: the edge since the last time I saw you. The
Speaker 1: last time, Yeah, I doubt you'd remember me. I was
Speaker 1: just a facing the crowd the courthouse back then. You
Speaker 1: were there for that. Okay, Well, thanks for seeing me.
Speaker 1: How could I know? I'm hoping you'll be the skyline
Speaker 1: I was Sunday's front page about James Fincher and the
Speaker 1: fourteen year anniversary of the Heathy Brothers murders. Prodigal Son
Speaker 1: returns right the wrongs he himself contributed to hell of
Speaker 1: a story. Interested to see where it goes. Well, you're
Speaker 1: not serious, I am. I think we can help each
Speaker 1: other out here. Well, I just need the tapes. The tapes,
Speaker 1: they're of interest in my research. The press interview with
Speaker 1: Detective Smith from two thousand and seven. Oh oh, I
Speaker 1: thought you were interested in the other ones. What's other ones? Well?
Speaker 1: The ones are you? What are you talking about? This
Speaker 1: is Sheriff Hooper's and tear gage of you. Can I
Speaker 1: please go to the bathroom, sir? Just top more questions?
Speaker 1: All right? So, okay, you're not in trouble yet, all right, Okay,
Speaker 1: look at me. Yeah, what you say here now there's
Speaker 1: just between you and me. Nobody's gonna find out. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at you for saying what you know.
Speaker 1: And I think it's safe to say that you do
Speaker 1: know things. Now. Earlier you said that James Fincher hated
Speaker 1: the Hadley Brothers. Is that right? Well, yeah, but because
Speaker 1: of what they did to his sister, what they did
Speaker 1: to Dina but you weren't there for that, were you? No?
Speaker 1: But yeah? Moving on, moving on the point is James
Speaker 1: Fincher had it out for the Hadleys? Is that right now?
Speaker 1: You really need to be straight with me, Son, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you could say he hated them enough to want to
Speaker 1: hurt them. Couldn't you that he wanted revenge? I couldn't
Speaker 1: say all that was true. It's simply based Look at
Speaker 1: these photos, Son, Look at him. Blunt forced trauma to
Speaker 1: the head, multiple stab wounds. Hell, Deacon Hadley was bashed
Speaker 1: so hard in the head that his left eyeball was
Speaker 1: hanging out of his eye socket. Thomas's throat cut. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine the type of hatred you would have to feel, Julian,
Speaker 1: to relentlessly bash a human body to the point where
Speaker 1: it is almost unrecognizable? Well? Can you, Son, I don't
Speaker 1: need Can you defend the kind of person that could
Speaker 1: do that? Could you feel this sort of hatred? Well?
Speaker 1: I no, I don't know. I need to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom. But do you know that James Fincher hated them?
Speaker 1: Don't you? You can say that? I need you to
Speaker 1: say that. Say what what you want me to say? Say?
Speaker 1: What that James Fincher hated them, that he wanted to
Speaker 1: hurt them now, that he wanted revenge, that he obsessed
Speaker 1: over them. He made up stories about them to wreck
Speaker 1: their lives. Didn't That's just not true. No, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He did. You know he did? He didn't just because
Speaker 1: they picked on him. No, he didn't. Julian, have you
Speaker 1: heard the phrase accessory after the fact? It means that
Speaker 1: if you know something, something crucial to my investigation of
Speaker 1: the murder of Thomas and Deacon Hadley, and you withhold it, well,
Speaker 1: then you're guilty too. And I think you know something, boy,
Speaker 1: And if you don't tell me now and I find
Speaker 1: out later, there ain't no jury in the world gonna
Speaker 1: let you be free. I don't. They always used to
Speaker 1: bully in And he knew it too, didn't you. You
Speaker 1: knew what he was planning because you boys were going
Speaker 1: down there at the caves all the time. Hell, you
Speaker 1: showed him the place yourself, didn't you. I didn't. You
Speaker 1: didn't what, Julian? You showed James Fincher the ins and
Speaker 1: outs of it. And that's okay, son, There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. Everybody likes a little frill I'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: you knew that you were dealing with a psychopath, did you?
Speaker 1: You're not a bad kid he used you, didn't he No,
Speaker 1: he got in your head, he tricked you. No, no
Speaker 1: he didn't. He could plan no revenge, No, no, I
Speaker 1: just we went there to hang out. We were just
Speaker 1: It wasn't the Hadley's idea to go down there that night,
Speaker 1: was it? No? Because if they wanted to hurt James,
Speaker 1: they do it right out in the open, right, They've
Speaker 1: been doing it for years. But James wanted to play
Speaker 1: for keeps and he knew just the place. James wanted
Speaker 1: to take them out to the caves. That now, you
Speaker 1: better tell me the truth, son. You know we got
Speaker 1: your buddy Tyler here too, right. Oh yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: right across the hall, and he's already told us the truth.
Speaker 1: So what's it going to be your story or his? Now? Talk?
Speaker 1: James Fincher wanted to take them out to the caves,
Speaker 1: didn't he answer me? Maybe? Yeah? I guess what? What?
Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah? I didn't get that James Fincher had
Speaker 1: the idea to bring the boys down there. Yes, yeah, yes?
Speaker 1: Did you hear him when he suggested they go down
Speaker 1: there and settle the score once and for all. Where
Speaker 1: is he? Where is my son? Oh? Shit, now, Paul,
Speaker 1: you know you can't be in here. What the fuck up?
Speaker 1: This is between me and my boy? What did you say?
Speaker 1: What did you tell off? When I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: What did you say? Hi, Paul, that's domestic confused. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rest your ass too. Now you better call the
Speaker 1: fuck you better back the fuck off. You understand me.
Speaker 1: This is between me and hand easy. I got a feeling.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling. We're on the same side here. Anyway,
Speaker 1: sit down out to speak a little louder Son, right
Speaker 1: into the mic. There, go on, Son, unburden yourself James
Speaker 1: and sure, absolutely and without any doubt, go on. Now
Speaker 1: murder TKT and Thomas Hadley in those games. There you go, Son,
Speaker 1: You've done the right thing. You know that that wasn't
Speaker 1: the real story. Well it certainly helped get James Fincher
Speaker 1: the death sense, didn't you, But it wasn't the truth
Speaker 1: that was coerced. Well I don't doubt that. What was
Speaker 1: the truth? Then you might if I here record, I'd
Speaker 1: rather you not. This could really help your case. I
Speaker 1: mean having a news story out there, you never know
Speaker 1: who might come for. Do you think that could work?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what was the truth? What truth about James
Speaker 1: Fincher telling the Head Brothers to meet him at the caves?
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have off the record, Okay, off the record?
Speaker 1: Why not? Because he wouldn't have. And why did you
Speaker 1: say he did? Just listen, he didn't kill him? Okay,
Speaker 1: Well it sounds like you know something. No, Detective Smith
Speaker 1: knew something, which is why I'm here. He was onto
Speaker 1: something and this paper interviewed him before he disappeared. He
Speaker 1: was following up on a lead, which I am kind
Speaker 1: of lead, that kind of lead that would exonerate James
Speaker 1: Fincher and then lo and behold he vanished, fucking gone.
Speaker 1: His car found somewhere just north of town. Did you
Speaker 1: guys run a story on that. I'd have to look
Speaker 1: into the archives. Yeah, you do that. In dig up
Speaker 1: that interview with Smith and their information, you can about
Speaker 1: his involvement with to have the murder case from two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and I'll give you an interview, how
Speaker 1: about that on the record, you bet? And while you're
Speaker 1: at and find out where they found miss Carr, will you,
Speaker 1: you have myself. The truth is, I don't remember James
Speaker 1: asking to have the brothers to meet him up at
Speaker 1: the case. It doesn't make any sense. I knew Finch
Speaker 1: better than anyone in the world outside of Dina. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was my friend, him and Tyler and him asking
Speaker 1: Tacon and Thomas to go out to the caves alone. Nah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what happened that night. I never
Speaker 1: thought that's what happened. When you think of the fairytale
Speaker 1: version of Appalachia, my early childhood was pretty much. It
Speaker 1: would smoke and gray blue winter mornings, trumping with my
Speaker 1: father and the snow to see the icicles hanging off
Speaker 1: the eaves of our little home. Apple picking and drives
Speaker 1: to look at leaves changing in the fall, Tomato sandwiches
Speaker 1: the swimming hole, and roadside boiled peanuts in the summer.
Speaker 1: Dad worked for Hadley Pontiac. He tolerated the job because
Speaker 1: he loved my mother, and when I came along, I'd
Speaker 1: like to think he loved me too. I could never
Speaker 1: really tell. When I was young, he was a little
Speaker 1: hard on me. When I was eighteen, my mother died.
Speaker 1: Of course, everything changed. When my mother died a family
Speaker 1: is like a mobile danglet from the ceiling. It's a
Speaker 1: balancing act. You never have any idea how much a
Speaker 1: single person can hold together a family until they are
Speaker 1: no longer in the position to do so. She got sick.
Speaker 1: It was sudden stage four sophageal cancer. After the test,
Speaker 1: they gave her four months. She lasted three the end.
Speaker 1: It was horrible. When she went, she took the best
Speaker 1: parts of my father with her, and the Idella claugh
Speaker 1: we shared. Dad started drinking again. Of course, I know
Speaker 1: what you're thinking. You're thinking that because of his drink,
Speaker 1: and he faded into the background or neglected me. Nope,
Speaker 1: not my father. He wasn't a neglectful absent your father.
Speaker 1: He watched me closer, became increasingly obsessed with my safety,
Speaker 1: micromanage my existence. Always wanted to know my eggs whereabouts,
Speaker 1: wanted precise details about where I was going and with whom.
Speaker 1: Wanted me home immediately after school every day, and would
Speaker 1: go bat shit when I didn't. He hated my friends,
Speaker 1: called Tyler common trash, which of course made me want
Speaker 1: to spend more time away from home, more time in
Speaker 1: the woods with Tyler. I only wanted to escape my
Speaker 1: childhood and the house that felt forever empty and haunted
Speaker 1: after my mother's death. And that's when he became violent
Speaker 1: when I started lying once I told him I was
Speaker 1: going with the debate team to a nearby town for
Speaker 1: a tournament. Instead, I set out to the caves with Tyler.
Speaker 1: There were lights in the rear view following us out
Speaker 1: past the edge of town. I thought maybe Griff Washington
Speaker 1: was patrolling his property, maybe following us to make sure
Speaker 1: we didn't trust pass. But when we pulled over for gas,
Speaker 1: hoping whoever was following us would pass on by, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They pulled in right behind us. Turned out as my father.
Speaker 1: He had been tailing us. He dragged me by the
Speaker 1: back of my neck out of Tyler's car and threw
Speaker 1: me into his. When we got back home, he locked
Speaker 1: me in the basement for twelve hours. It was only
Speaker 1: a crawl space with a small cinder block room for
Speaker 1: the furnace. I remember while I was locked down there,
Speaker 1: I found an old chest filled with my mother's clothes.
Speaker 1: It was freezing, so I put him on. They almost
Speaker 1: fit an old sweater and that scarf she was knitting
Speaker 1: for me when she died. That red scarf. It was
Speaker 1: that same week I met Finch. I know it was
Speaker 1: that week because the first thing he said to me
Speaker 1: was that he liked my red scarf. Wilson repair he Tyler's. Julian, Well, oh, Julie,
Speaker 1: what a while with the pleasure. I know it's late.
Speaker 1: I hate to pass to you, Grace and me with
Speaker 1: your presence twice in forty eight hours. I mean, after
Speaker 1: what fourteen fucking years radio silence? Oh well, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to be caused. After a little visit to the cave,
Speaker 1: I got to thinking about how you ain't changed. Bad man?
Speaker 1: How's that you're one of those top pigle only ever
Speaker 1: call when you need something? So go on? What can
Speaker 1: I do for you now, Julian? Damn, Well, you got
Speaker 1: me bagged. I guess I'm just I'm just fucking with
Speaker 1: your man. Hell, none of my friends ever called me
Speaker 1: anyway listening need something? Oh you've got friends? Oh high
Speaker 1: fucking high. So what's a Well? I just um the
Speaker 1: AC unit my piece of shit motel. I'd call maintenance,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to deal with Did you check
Speaker 1: the filter? No, I'm nine percent it's just a clock.
Speaker 1: Pull the face off and take the filter out. You
Speaker 1: can run it without for the night, but sooner or
Speaker 1: later you should probably just come and take my spare
Speaker 1: room like I told you. O. Man, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: if my company's not good enough for wait second, you're
Speaker 1: doing that thing? Yeah? Got you again? Listen. That isn't
Speaker 1: the only reason I called I Else. I wanted to
Speaker 1: say it was good to see you the other day. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been way too long. I know, I know that.
Speaker 1: I look you there. Can I ask you something? What?
Speaker 1: Why'd you come back? What do you mean? I mean, Julian,
Speaker 1: there is a lot you don't understand here. This is
Speaker 1: bigger than bigger than what exactly I'm trying to help
Speaker 1: you here, Julian, things are in a delicate balance, all right.
Speaker 1: What what thinks my ass and reflux? What the fuck
Speaker 1: you think I'm talking about? Man, you don't understand. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I had to come back to what
Speaker 1: you should resent to that earth. You're playing with fire here.
Speaker 1: You have no idea what you're mess It's not just
Speaker 1: for me. I'm trying to do the right thing here
Speaker 1: for Fish. I'm trying to help him. Don't you think
Speaker 1: I mind? He's on death row Tie's part to play
Speaker 1: all right here, I'm gonna well, I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: on my ass watching Jeffard and smoking cigarettes. Did you
Speaker 1: know there were others other kids who were absent from
Speaker 1: school that day other than Thomas and Deacon. What you know, Tyler? Tyler? Tyler, Tyler?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Tyler? I lost you man? What
Speaker 1: the hell? What the fuck? Fuck? H M A ghost
Speaker 1: in the mirror. In the Hounds of Dancing The Manowat
Speaker 1: Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Salis, Eddie Gatheggie as
Speaker 1: James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, Nick Sercy
Speaker 1: as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Wellborn as Tyler Wilson, Jill
Speaker 1: Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappard,
Speaker 1: Scott Poythress as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Deana Fincher,
Speaker 1: Justin Matthews Smith as Paul Salace, Tara Oakes as Laura Salis,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Kronovitch as Thomas Hadley,
Speaker 1: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington, Bodie Walter Roth as
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fincher, Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as
Speaker 1: Bobby Hadley, Peyton Fallis as Ed le Blanc, Vic Polis Says,
Speaker 1: William Fowler, Nick Dakosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Loy
Speaker 1: as The Darkness, with additional performances by Clint McGown, Dina Dill,
Speaker 1: Edward Howard, Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Manzalez, Christopher Curry,
Speaker 1: Bailey Hyneman, David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark. Created by
Speaker 1: Connell Byrne and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe
Speaker 1: Cooper and Nicholas Dakaski featuring our theme song Killer Inside,
Speaker 1: written produced and performed by Lear Lynn. Our executive producers
Speaker 1: are Matt Frederick, Alexander Williams, Michael Monte, and Courtney Dufrees.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey,
Speaker 1: and Noah Feinberg. Produced by Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett.
Speaker 1: Additional music by Alexander Rodriguez, edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs,
Speaker 1: Stephen Perez and David Chen. Sound designed by Benjamin Malcolm. Dialogue,
Speaker 1: editing and sound mixing by Wan Campus. Recorded at Studio
Speaker 1: Awesome in Los Angeles, Sound by Studio in Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Echo Mountain in Asheville. Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy and
Speaker 1: Meg Mormon. Our dialect coach is Linda Bassesti, Assistant director,
Speaker 1: Michael Monte second assistant director, script supervisor and production coordinator
Speaker 1: Sarah Klein. Supervising producer Josh Thine. Special thanks to Mary
Speaker 1: Ellen and Jason Davis, Jonathan Deeter, and Joe Rickman. The
Speaker 1: Manoel Caves is a production of iHeartRadio, Blumhouse Television, and
Speaker 1: Psychopia Pictures.