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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: The world's a big podcasts. 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: I have fifty four guys on the team right now, 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: so I need to cut somebody. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: Dude, somebody think I have like forty six. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 4: Maybe the other team will run the ball and keep 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 4: the score down. Boris like like likes Saturday Night. 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Paul's roster projection is based on how short 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: can we make the game. 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 6: If you just read enough different people's summations of Wednesday's practice, 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 6: you could have found that the Patriots won the Super Bowl? 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 6: Or are they gonna get relegated to the D League? 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: Was a little more than you. 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Would have been right to get those leaf peepers coming 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: up to New England pretty soon. 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 5: You didn't miss it when you lived in California. I missed. 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: I missed this, the fall, the changing season. I think 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: it was more of the weather though. 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: It wasn't anything, you know, the falling of the palms 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: or anything. And what's wrong with cheat? You didn't like? 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 7: You like? 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: What's the real sticks? 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 5: Really? 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: That's a hot take. That is a hot take. 32 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 5: It's just a giant hunk of cheese. 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's wrong with cheese? 34 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 6: That is he that would cause net problem wearing those 35 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 6: on a regular basis? 36 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and they looked up. 37 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered. 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 8: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals by a Toyota 39 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 8: dot com. 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium and we're getting ready to travel to Nashville. 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Uh so we've got Alex Barth joining us. Welcome to 43 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: the big show. 44 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 9: Alex look been looking forward to this. 45 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex is gonna fill in because Evan, who's also here, 46 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: and I will need to leave it a on one 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: o'clock to get on the bus. Deuce is here tomorrow, 48 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: will be here shortly. I think you never know with her, 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: she just kind of float in, float out. 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: We think so she's up there. 51 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah coming. But yeah, so good crew today. Welcome again, Alex, Yeah, 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Matt Stooth. So we're gonna talk Patriots getting ready for 53 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the Titans. It's going to be hot hot. I was 54 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: looking at my app, my weather app and one hundred 55 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: degrees tomorrow. 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: Well, we were out on the practice fields, I guess 57 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: Wednesday maybe, and Stacey like turned around and like said, 58 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: like the heat indcks at that point when we would 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: have been practicing the Nashville was like one hundred and 60 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 5: fourteen degrees. Yeah, so we're all kind of like kind 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: of glad we missed out on that, but it sounds 62 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 5: like it's still going to be a hot one for 63 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 5: you guys tomorrow. 64 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know it can down on the field. 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's you know, hotter than you. 66 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: Know, yeah, with the pads on and yeah, you know 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 5: there she is. 68 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's Tamara and the Virginia Tech sweatshirt. 69 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 5: Yeah she wore to Yeah she can't talk yet. 70 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't hear you. 71 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 5: I think it's funny though, because Bar's gonna you know, 72 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 5: cross over a little bit. And yes, you know, Andy 73 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: and Paul were kind of together forever and me and 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: Fitzie were kind of a pair, and you guys are 75 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: kind of a pair. And then you know, now Fitzi 76 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: and Andy do a lot of things together, and me 77 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: and Paul do stuff together. So you know, maybe we're 78 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: gonna steal Barth from you. You know you gotta watch it. Okay, 79 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: You're gonna lose your dance partner here. 80 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: For no, no. 81 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: No, we need we need a partner for Tamara. 82 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 9: Alex. 83 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: It's Alex female Alex Alex. 84 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: She never comes down anymore. She doesn't like us anymore. 85 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 5: I don't think we gotta find her get down here. 86 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: So I wore this Virginia Tech Krewnick almost said hoodie 87 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: because I knew Barth was gonna be here, and he's 88 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: a big college football guy. 89 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: Oh we just did. We just did ten minutes on 90 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: all the guys at Bar's gonna draft next year. Yeah. 91 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: So that's why I wore this today because it's week zero. 92 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: I knew Barth would appreciate it, and I'm so excited. 93 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: He'll give you a full rundown of Hoky. So'll tell 94 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: you everybody players to watch on the whole. 95 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 9: I had a guy, so I put up this morning. 96 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 9: I did every year before weeks hereo, I do like it. 97 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 9: Here's like eight or ten guys that I'm watching as 98 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 9: potential Patriots. I have a Virginia Tech guy in the list. 99 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: I'm guessing defense. 100 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 9: It has to be. It is defense. 101 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, our defense is all that I'm writing on right 102 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: now because the offense is gonna be terrible. 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: So Alex, you know, for our fans that may not 104 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: be familiar with you, I can't believe that. But you 105 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: never know. You're at ninety eight point five. Yes, and 106 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: you do a lot of the writing for ninety eight 107 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: point five, But I hear you a lot on the 108 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: morning show. You do appearances and throughout the day different 109 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, whenever they want to really talk football. 110 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 111 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: I guess you could say that gets you on there. 112 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 113 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: There's there's another person at ninety point five. I think 114 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: her name is Kendram Middleton. Yes, she does mornings now 115 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: with Lipshats. Yeah, and she knows a lot of college football, 116 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: it seems to me anyway. 117 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, she's a big college football person. I mean she's 118 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 9: from Jacksonville. She's from like the heart of it, so 119 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 9: she's Yeah, she's a pretty big college football person. Here's 120 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 9: this nice to in lift shats and and Joe Murray 121 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 9: are too because they do the betting stuff. So right, 122 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 9: we got we got some college football people down there, Apple. 123 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: In ninety eight point five. 124 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when I stopped talking about you know, 125 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: the drama and the palace coups, they probably bring Alex 126 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: on and he tells them what's actually happening with the 127 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: football team. 128 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 9: Was that I was on with them. It was one 129 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 9: of the days during camp and uh Felger comes and 130 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 9: gets me from me working with us, you want to 131 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 9: do a couple minutes We're talking about Taekwon Thornton. I'm like, sure, 132 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 9: so what do you think of Taekwon Thorton? And so 133 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 9: harmles it's not great? He goes, wow from you, he 134 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 9: was like, I couldn't believe it. So it's truth. 135 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: I used to star with him on a regular basis. 136 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, So we didn't have a show yesterday Wednesday, 137 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: but they had practice, So why don't we update people 138 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: on who's in, who's out? What do they look like? 139 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and when you back out there, limited went up 140 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: to the upper fields, but good positive, you know, strides 141 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: for him just to be in pads. Pierre Strong out 142 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 5: of the red jersey. That's a good sign maybe he 143 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 5: can he can play. I mean, I think that's a 144 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: good topic for discussion about those running back spots with 145 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: you know, Elliott Stevenson, and it's like Montgomery's back. So 146 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: those three seem like the guys, but probably one more, 147 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 5: is it? Pierre Strong, Kevin. 148 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 10: Harris, JJ Taylor. 149 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 5: J Taylor. 150 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: So good back. 151 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 9: I was really impressed that. 152 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: He caught that check down and did some things after 153 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: the catch, which was nice to see. But I would 154 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: expect that from him. 155 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: Around and passed he plays past okay. 156 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: And I also just like how Bill mentioned like he's 157 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: like light years much better a player than he was 158 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: when he first got here, just in all aspects of 159 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: the game, not just running the ball. He was like, 160 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: his past catching ability is so much better than it 161 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: was last year. 162 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: So I'm like wondering, so who goes if he makes 163 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: the fifty three. 164 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: Time Montgomery Montgomery, I. 165 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Was just gonna say, that's probably the guy, right. 166 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 9: I think it comes down to how much do they 167 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 9: trust Time Montgomery to be available because Montgomery is essentially 168 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 9: a better version of JJ Taylor. But you know, if 169 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 9: he's going to be here for two weeks and get 170 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 9: hurt and then you maybe lose JJ Taylor, you're out 171 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 9: of lock. 172 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: I think that's fair. But I just wonder, like JJ 173 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 5: Taylor improved so much on last year when he couldn't 174 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: even get on the field when they were just running 175 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: Remondre into the ground, Like, you know, has he done 176 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: that much? Like I always think he looks great in 177 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 5: the preseason. I thought he'd looked great when they initially 178 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: signed him, like this is gonna be a fun guy 179 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: in the preseason. I don't know, though, I'm still a 180 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: little skeptical that he's gonna like be the fourth running 181 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: back on this team and play a role after two 182 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: years where he can't even really get on the field 183 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: even when they were like. 184 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: Desperate for a guy. 185 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: Also, I keep saying, when you have an offensive line 186 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: who literally can't do anything, he can slide through the 187 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: smallest little places. 188 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 9: I would say that in terms of not being able 189 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 9: to get on the field. I mean, Kendrick Bourne was 190 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 9: got probably good to use last year whouldn't get on 191 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 9: the field, and he's had a good camp. 192 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: So that's I mean, that's fair with I mean, you know, 193 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 5: with the passing offense, but I mean, I I wouldn't 194 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: ull Pierre Strong out yet. I mean, I still think 195 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: he's got maybe more of the full package that you're 196 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 5: looking for without the size concerns with Taylor. But I 197 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: don't know, we'll see. It's good, it's a good debate, 198 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: and I think these guys will have a chance. Hopefully 199 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: Strong can go so we can at least, you know, 200 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: have a chance to tea. 201 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean it seems to me like right now, the 202 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: only person that you can depend done to, you know, 203 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: for yards after the catch in small spaces from the 204 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: back position is Remandre. You know, we've seen him be shifty. 205 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Everybody else is kind of straight ahead, you know, kind 206 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: of back that I haven't seen enough about Time Montgomery 207 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: lately to know. No, you know, I just don't know. 208 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Alex's point is totally out though, 209 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: Like I mean, he's just always been hurt, there's no 210 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost comical how we got hurt like 211 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: day three after the first couple days being so involved, 212 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 5: and you know, here we go again. So I totally 213 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: get that point. But I will say, you know, not 214 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 5: having really watched a lot of Ezekiel Elliott, I think 215 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: he's got a little shimmy that I didn't really realize 216 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: for a big guy going through the hole. He's got 217 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 5: a little you know, he's got some he's got some 218 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 5: little bit of lateral movement that I was just surprised 219 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: because I thought he'd looked more. Not that I'm sure 220 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: he's a better player than Kevin Harris is at this 221 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 5: point even still, but. 222 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: More of that big straight ahead you just wonder, like 223 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: change of scenery, new life, at least, come out of 224 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: the gate. Maybe Ezekiel Elliott. It surprises us a little bit. 225 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: I like his energy, and you know, he had his 226 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: first media appearance yesterday and he said he feels ready 227 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: to go. Oh like obviously, like you know, he wasn't 228 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: around a team this this offseason. 229 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: But I mean he was only twenty eight. Now, I know, 230 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight as a running back is like thirty two 231 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: in other positions. But you know, let's see maybe maybe 232 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, he had a good off season for himself. 233 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he. 234 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: Plays tomorrow, I think, so I think he's gonna play 235 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: a little bit. I think for you know, I've always 236 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: thought of of Zeke as having good vision and being 237 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: able to set up blocks and like I always thought 238 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: that was the strength of his game, but seeing him 239 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: up close, he's super efficient through the line of scrimmage, 240 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: like he knows, you know, he sees it quickly and 241 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 4: he makes really good decisions with the ball in his hand. 242 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's you know, so Mike was speaking 243 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 4: to is that little It's not like he's not a jitterbug, 244 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: like he's not going to juke people out of his shoes, 245 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: but he takes really good angles through the line of 246 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: scrimmage and sets it up with his footwork. And yeah, 247 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: he's he's a he's a pro. I mean, he knows, 248 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: he knows how to set things up, he knows where 249 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: his blocking is gonna be, he knows, you know, where 250 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: the holes are, and he's been pretty good I from 251 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: what we've seen. 252 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it reminds me a little bit of 253 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: the way Curtis Martin or Emmitt Smith used to run, 254 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, like they would never really take on square hits. 255 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: They use those angles like you were talking about, really 256 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: well good vision. So you know, we'll see, we'll see. 257 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: But I think it's a good pick up. I think, 258 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, just having him in the backfield to pick 259 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: up you know, uh pressure, I think that's really valuable. 260 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: And I said to Evan, I'm like he might be 261 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 5: their like second or third best blocking offensive line right now. 262 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: Wow, he passed that. I did want to see he 263 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: did play center last year. 264 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say tackle. I did want to 265 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: segue to the offensive line because that's to me, that's 266 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: the big question right now going into the season is 267 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: how is this all O line going to be? Well? 268 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: I mean think on when you you know that's a 269 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: good sign. And Cole Strange seems like he wants to 270 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 5: just like sneak out onto the field like every time 271 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 5: I see all of a sudden, he's like walking out, 272 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 5: like coach, I'm gonna go in a real quick note 273 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 5: cold not yet, you're not ready. But I mean he's 274 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: been popping out at practice for a while now, not 275 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: in pads, but he comes out in a jersey in shorts. 276 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Who's going to be our starting right tackle. 277 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: City right now? 278 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 9: It should be Mike O and win Yeah, but I 279 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 9: mean basically and then it kicks. So me and evin't 280 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 9: talked about this on catch twenty two the one reason 281 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 9: and you. 282 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: Could talk about the nice teas. 283 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 9: Oh we did talk we did talk about, but not 284 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 9: in that context when did we, Oh, it was kind 285 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 9: of similar. 286 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 287 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 9: The one reason I'm holding out hope and maybe my 288 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 9: hopes are up and they shouldn't be. But for on 289 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 9: win who playing right tackle is we know that that 290 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 9: big word for them on the offensive line is continuity. 291 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 9: They want guys in their spot, repping in their spot, 292 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 9: Guys who are going to play next to each other 293 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 9: used to playing next to each other. If the plan 294 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 9: was to play Mike on and Win with right guard, 295 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 9: you'd think Riley Reef would maybe still be in the 296 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 9: tackle conversation at least rotating with Cities. So we haven't 297 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 9: seen that. It's been Riley Reef for right guard. So 298 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 9: is that because that's where he's gonna play and maybe 299 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 9: City So is actually the placeholder right now? And that 300 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 9: way when Mike when win Who comes back, instead of 301 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 9: being all right, we're gonna put on Win, We're gonna 302 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 9: move you know, uh, Riley Reef over so out. It's 303 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 9: just one in, one out on Winno for so. So 304 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 9: that's one way to look at it. I don't think 305 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 9: it's definitive, but I am. I do kind of see that. 306 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 9: And in wonder, especially after the way City Still played 307 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 9: last week, is is this them kind of saying that, 308 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 9: all right, Riley Reef is our right guard. 309 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: So is McDermott hurt? 310 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 9: Is he out of the give a practice saying. 311 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: Day packer's joints? He got hurt then? And you know 312 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 5: we didn't see him second day. 313 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: We've seen the stock take a on Connor McDermott first. First, 314 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: like a couple of days in pads. I was like, 315 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: Connor McDermott, all right, here we go, and then you 316 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: know it's started to go downhill already, and then he 317 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: hasn't been out there with it. 318 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 9: Wait, he was good up until the Texans game, I thought, 319 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: and then they played him out of position and then 320 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 9: we just haven't seen him since. So that was kind 321 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 9: of weird. Left tackle, right, yeah, which he's never played. 322 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: It's there's not so many injuries on the offensive line 323 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: that it's just kind of odd that they're almost just 324 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 4: need to get through the preseason in some ways. So 325 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: like with Alex's point about, you know, yeah, it makes 326 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: total sense that Reef would be a guard and and 327 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: you know, uh, that would mean that on when it 328 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: was actually getting ready to play tackle, and they wouldn't 329 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: change it up. But I don't even know how much 330 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: of that is just we got to play some everybody somewhere, 331 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: and then we're not trading so to be a guard, 332 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: we're trading him to be a It just it seems 333 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: like it's just been so dire. Oh yeah, they're they're 334 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: they're they're on you again. 335 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 9: Here we go, all right. 336 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: Matt mccarthyen plenty on going to both Springsteen shows without 337 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 5: So you're going to both that's true? 338 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Oh wow? 339 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: Springsteen fan for hour two, I wrote down, I grew 340 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: up listening to don't undersell it. You were a huge Springsteen. 341 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up listening to him, but I'm 342 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: not a huge fan. 343 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 5: And you were like in New Jersey to for a while. 344 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Speaking to you before Springsteen. 345 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: I was sprung from the cages on Highway nine. Fred, 346 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: that's just like you. 347 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I lived off Rudine on Ryan Road in uh 348 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: men Alapan. 349 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: There you go. 350 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Fred also said that there's not many like people that 351 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: he would want. 352 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: To go see in concert, like he's like these days. Correct, Yeah, 353 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: the crowds, There's no one that I'd be willing to 354 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: put up with the crowds to see at this point. Yeah, 355 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: even like you know some of these bands that come 356 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: back and they're too old. Like I wouldn't even go 357 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: see the Rolling Stones if you gave me a free ticket. 358 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I've seen them ticket. Yeah, I've seen them before. There's 359 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: plenty of times. 360 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: I don't believe. I don't believe that you would. 361 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: No, it's too much of a pain. I'd go putting 362 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: up with humanity. 363 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: What's the difference between doing that and going to a 364 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: football game and dealing with people? 365 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: You're still the press box. 366 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: Right, So you're saying it's different. It's different, you know, 367 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: sporting event like it. You know, you want to listen 368 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: to the music, right, and everyone's doing all this other 369 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: stuff at football at least everyone's watching the game. You know, 370 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: you're kind of all doing the same thing unless you 371 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: get unlucky and you to some drunkard. 372 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know that never happens at stadium. 373 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: Like, you know, I like, like sporting events are still okay, 374 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: but concerts they I don't know, it's too much anyway. 375 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 5: Can I bring it back to so for a second, now, 376 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: what do you think of the ramifications though of him? 377 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 5: Contract wise, if you plan this year at right tackle, 378 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: does that make it easier? Sorry what I said, so, yeah, 379 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 5: but that's that's what I mean. So the ramifications of that. 380 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: I've thought about this too, because on the one hand, 381 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: it would not be very Patriots to help a guy 382 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: make more money in the in the free agent market, 383 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: right because then he's going to price himself out. But 384 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: if you're Mike Onwenu, then you're begging them to play 385 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: you at right tackle. Like I had good film there 386 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: as a rookie. If I have good film again there 387 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: this year, then the view the league might view me 388 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: as a right tackle. And now all of a sudden, 389 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: I'm making ten plus million dollars a year to play 390 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: right tackle. I think that there's that is a factor. 391 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: I think it's a factor of whether or not they're 392 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: going to kick him outside of his market next year. Now, 393 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: the one thing you can bank on, the franchise tag 394 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: is all encompassing. It's guard center attack like there's just 395 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: one offensive lineman franchise tag, so they wouldn't necessarily need 396 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: to worry about it from that person. 397 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 9: That's really a tackle tag because of the way it's structured. 398 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you wouldn't have to. I mean, they taged 399 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: Joe Tooney as a that's true, so I don't think 400 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: that they would necessarily worry about it from the tag perspective, 401 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: but I've thought about the the open market perspective, could 402 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: definitely chase there. 403 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: And we talked about I think it was a left 404 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: tackle from the Cardinals who is sitting on the bench now. 405 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: It might be excess baggage for them. Any chance you 406 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: bring somebody in there and then you kick off Trent 407 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Brown back to right tackle, which is better for him. 408 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 1: And see now everything. 409 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: Settled, maybe with Anderson, see what happens with Calvin Anderson, 410 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: and Mike Greese wrote that he was getting close. We 411 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: haven't seen him out there yet, but I mean, I 412 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: do feel like he's a potential left tackle option that 413 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 5: you have in house already that that maybe if he 414 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: they're like, he's gonna be back next week, then I 415 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: don't I would at least give him a chance because. 416 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: If you can do that, now you've got a settled 417 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: line with some depth. 418 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would just say to like to my point, 419 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: I think like in the best case scenario, it's it's 420 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 5: to play, so to play the rookie, you know, and 421 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 5: then to have Riley Reef who can play four spots 422 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 5: on the offensive line, to be the sixth linemen and 423 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: to be able to fill in at those spots. So 424 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I totally get what these guys are saying. 425 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: And if you're probably putting your best five out there, 426 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 5: it probably isn't when you at r right tackle. But 427 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 5: I just think for the long term stability of the team, 428 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: especially when you have on when you up for free 429 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: agency next year, I think, you know, ideally, maybe you 430 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 5: find something with Sour or Mafi keep calling, I keep 431 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: going back and forth. So so it just depends on 432 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: that the sentence, which is what I call them. It's 433 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 5: so it's a city, so it should be like urban 434 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 5: knitter instead of urban. 435 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: I feel like this is what people do with my 436 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: urban crucheer. I feel like this is what people do 437 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: with my name. Brom Oh, Tamara, Tamra Tomorrow. 438 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: It's Tamara, Yeah, never right, It is Tamara. 439 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 5: Get the air in the mid This whole. 440 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Time, it was just Tomorrow in the last name is 441 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: pronounced Smith really wrong. 442 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: I have the easiest last name ever, and it's funny 443 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: when I tell people, like my last name. They're like, 444 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: can you spell it? I'm like the color and they're like, okay. 445 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: Well it could be b R A U N perhaps. 446 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 11: R O w n E. 447 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: I've heard it. 448 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 9: I've seen it with. 449 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 4: Any at the end, Yeah, Brownie. 450 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: You know there was a public relations person I think 451 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: she was with the Dolphins. Her name was Fudge Brownie. 452 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 9: That was her name was Budge had to have been 453 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 9: a nickname. 454 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 455 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Now that's like, you know, the NFL comes out with 456 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: a black book that is all the staffs of all 457 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: the various teams, and that's what was listed. Fudge Brownie. 458 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: It's very sweet, sweet girl. 459 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: She was not. 460 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: It was a slow burd on that one. 461 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 9: All right. 462 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: A five five pats five hundred is the a stick 463 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and hutline. Web radio at patries dot com is the 464 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: email address. All right. So that's the offensive line we're hoping, Uh, 465 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, we see some people back for this game, 466 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: get you know, get some rust off. Anyway, who else 467 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: might we see this game you know that will get 468 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: extended looks that you know have potential to. 469 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 5: Let me just smart. Let me just preface that with guys. 470 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 5: We actually Gonzales got a little dinged up ankle thing 471 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: right at the end of practice yesterday and Henry. I 472 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 5: didn't see the Henry one. He got dinged up a 473 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: little bit. And Douglas has been really not participating. He's 474 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: been warming up and then going so three guys that. 475 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: Are top Douglas so much that now he's not even 476 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: practicing in front. 477 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: But I would imagine even if it's minors, I think 478 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: probably won't guys probably with his I mean, he seemed 479 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: like he was right back out there and no worse 480 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: for Whear after that injury he had briefly in the 481 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: second Green Bay practice, But I suspect we're not going to. 482 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 9: See those guys are probably sicky on that list too. Yeah, 483 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 9: in the red Red Jersey the. 484 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: Whole time, Alex, you as high on Keon White as 485 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I am. 486 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 9: Yes, Yes, I see a potentially more athletic Trey Flowers. 487 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 9: Trey Flowers is my from coming out, and I just 488 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 9: feel like that's been built on and it's part of 489 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 9: the reason I like the fact they signed Trey Flowers. Honestly, 490 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 9: what a great asset for what a great guy for 491 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 9: Keon White to learn from. But I think you look 492 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 9: at a guy that is built and has the play 493 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 9: strength of a traditional strong side edgesetter, but has some 494 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 9: more athleticism to maybe deal with some faster quarterbacks or 495 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 9: if teams are going to try to, you know, put 496 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 9: him in conflict at the point of attack and read 497 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 9: options or things like that. Really new agy defensive lineman, 498 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 9: and there's a couple of different things they can do 499 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 9: with him. I know we saw him standing up a 500 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 9: little bit. I think he should mostly play hand in 501 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 9: the dirt. But what a fun find, yeah for them, 502 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 9: what a player that gives them a lot of different things. 503 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: And I want to ask you, because I don't get 504 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: to talk to you as much, but in your opinion, 505 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: does he have the potential to be better in the 506 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: pros than he was in college? Oh yeah, relatively speaking. 507 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 9: So to me, he's an upside player and that's part 508 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 9: of the reason I'm so encouraged. His background. He was 509 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 9: at Old Dominion as a tight end and then moved 510 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 9: to defensive end, had to sit out the COVID year, 511 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 9: so really not a ton of playing time at the 512 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 9: defensive end position. He's just sort of a freak athlete. 513 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 9: And they've done this in the draft to different extents 514 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 9: the last couple of years. This guy's really strong, this 515 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 9: guy's really fast, this guy's really big. We're gonna draft 516 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 9: him and teach him how to play football. So when 517 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 9: they pick this is great, Like what a what a 518 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 9: guy to mold into what you want him to be. 519 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 9: But he's even more of an athlete than maybe I 520 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 9: thought he'd be. And he's clearly a quick learner too, 521 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 9: So I think his ceilings even higher than what we've seen. 522 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 9: But yeah, I think he has a lot of potential 523 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 9: because I would say his pick was a lot more 524 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 9: upside than it was floor. 525 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 5: I think some of like the plays, like to your 526 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: point out, it's just stood out to me in that 527 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: first game, we're just his like pursuit after play, I mean, 528 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: getting back over you know, to get CJ. Stroud like, 529 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: you know, after a couple of yards. I mean, he 530 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: just he seems to play the game at at a 531 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 5: really good I think. 532 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 9: The play that defined him for me this year was 533 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 9: I think it was like the second play of the game. 534 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 9: He whoever the tackle is he's going against, just throws 535 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 9: them off of him, explodes out of stance, throws him 536 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 9: off him and he's got a straight shot at CJ. 537 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 9: Stroud and you can't really practice that right because you 538 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 9: don't hit the quarterback. And it's him and c. J. 539 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 9: Strut looking at each other and he's kind of like 540 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 9: now what Like, now what do I do? And he 541 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 9: over pursues in Stroud whips around him. Very coachable moment, Yeah, 542 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 9: very coachable moment. But the way he gets a lignement 543 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 9: off him close the distance between him and Stroud. He's 544 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 9: just got to learn kind of what to do at 545 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 9: the point of attack, which will come. It's true for 546 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 9: a lot of young pass rushers. I saw that plan. 547 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 9: I was like, all right, here we go, Like this guy, 548 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 9: this guy's got something. 549 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. The closing burst of the quarterback has been impressive. 550 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: Like he I didn't think he had that playmaking gear 551 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: on film at Georgia Tech, but he showed a much 552 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: different gear in terms of closing to the quarterback, you know, 553 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: exploding out of his stance, finishing plays. And they have 554 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: two really really good coaches and joke him and DeMarcus 555 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: Covington that will teach him how to use his hands 556 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: and get off blocks because. 557 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: The stats in college really didn't tell you that that 558 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: he would have. 559 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 9: That right well, because again he was still learning. I 560 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 9: was giving Evan. I was kind of getting on Evan 561 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 9: for this on catch twenty two. Ye, you didn't see 562 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 9: his explosiveness when you watch him at Georgia Tech. When 563 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 9: he went back to Old Dominion and watch. 564 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: Him as a tight end. 565 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 9: You saw how will he moved in the open field, 566 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 9: and so I think you're seeing some of that translate 567 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 9: and carry over. 568 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: All Right, who's this nose tackle they because when they 569 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: signed him, he was running around with his shirt. 570 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 9: Of that was that was our guy going into the 571 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 9: draft last year and him. 572 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: Were both really high. I said, how many mock drafts 573 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 4: did we do? Where we took Mark the seventh. 574 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 9: Round, sixth round Mark because everybody wanted Jordan Davis and 575 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 9: then Travis Jones, the kid from yukon seventh round Jordan Davis. 576 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 9: That's that's what you were like, get him in the 577 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 9: sixth or seventh round. 578 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: We got sixth round Dave Flowers, we got seventh round 579 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: Jordan Davis, and it's all gonna work out, all right. 580 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: So I guess he failed as physical and he's out 581 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: so much for that. Yeah, gone tomorrow. So they do 582 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 5: have an open. 583 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: Listen, that's one of those that hey, look, you know 584 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: you get healthy, you call you back in a couple 585 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: of weeks. Now, you know, Carl Davis like these just 586 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: big nose tackles that they've liked over the years. But 587 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: that's Mark. 588 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 9: Mark McCall's not big. He's big. He is down four 589 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 9: hundred big, right, he was so he was playing it 590 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 9: at six three three eighty in college. He's now at 591 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 9: six three three forty. And there's actually this really interesting 592 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 9: piece some somebody did when he was at Kentucky about 593 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 9: like his process of losing weight and how he felt 594 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 9: like he would help him in all of that. But 595 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 9: he is I mean, he he's got what is it, 596 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 9: like thirty pounds on Vince Wilfork or something like that. 597 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 4: He eats up space. Yeah, so he's a really big dude. 598 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Did he fail because of He didn't fail because of weight? 599 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: Noice? Oh, carrying around all that weight not going for 600 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 5: the knees. 601 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 9: Was Apparently he claims he lost all that weight because 602 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 9: he just stopped drinking apple juice. What apple juice? Yeah, 603 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 9: really like a lot of sugar. 604 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, how much apple? You say you're drinking. 605 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 9: A gallon enough? 606 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: I mean when I was a kid in high school, 607 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I would literally drink a half a gallon of orange 608 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: juice at a sitting half a gallon. I would, guy, 609 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: I would just take that out of the fridge and 610 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: chug it and we would have it delivered because we 611 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: had like the milk guy that he would he would 612 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: deliver milk hood and orange juice. We would just buy 613 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: it and I would just drinking. 614 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: Is not that good. 615 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I love it, but it's not. It's done a lot 616 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: of sugar. 617 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 5: It does, but I like it in the morning. It 618 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 5: cuts through the morning grime. 619 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my strategy. Like, if I start feeling sick, 620 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 9: I'll go buy like a gallon of orange juice and 621 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 9: just inhale it. 622 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm an apple juice guy. I like apple juice, toots, 623 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: apple juice. 624 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: I like fruit juice in general, but it's not always 625 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: the best for you that come. 626 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 5: There's no alcoholic drinks with apple juice, orange juice, I 627 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: can't think of it. Is there an apple juice, martini. 628 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: Cider, apple martini's, but never, like. 629 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 5: Give me an apple juice and vodka. 630 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 9: That's basically that's what red That's what reds is. Reds 631 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 9: is not it's called a cider. It's not a cider. 632 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 9: It's just apple juice and. 633 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: Juice, dark alcohol, dark liliquor. It's good with apple juice. 634 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: Don't quote me like cran apple. 635 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: Whiskey and apple juice. 636 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 10: There's isn't there sounds weird? 637 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 9: No, I get this, just like maple whiskey. Do that 638 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 9: with some like warm apple juice, little cinnamon fingers, do 639 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 9: the peanut butter. 640 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if the real health conscious people have V 641 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: eight's in vodka. 642 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 9: Get get your Well that's a well it's basically a bloody. 643 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Are kind yeah, but V eight has it's more constant. 644 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: The real healthy people just like mix it with water. 645 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: V eight no water and alcohol. I got a buddy waters. Yeah, 646 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: they're called alcoholics. 647 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we were on we got Evan on the 648 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 5: high noon train. 649 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: Now, oh yeah, he's and Dreen only a couple. 650 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 5: They just melt away like that, there's nothing, and then 651 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, like whoa three you get that 652 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 5: three inner a little. 653 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Rush, and then you wake up all drinking drinking those 654 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: fruity drinks now, and those they're not that fruity, those 655 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: seltzer hundred calories. 656 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 5: It's nice, you know, like you don't want to feel like. 657 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: It's refreshing, and it's lighter than beer, so you don't feel, 658 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: you know, beer like I feel like I'm like drinking 659 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 4: a meal when I try that's like this eltzers too well. 660 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: Here, here's here's the thing about beer that people do wrong. 661 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: It's how they pour it. 662 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 9: And people ask. 663 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: People say, if you pour it down the side so 664 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: that it doesn't have a head and then drink it, 665 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get bloated a lot quicker because all the 666 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: gases haven't released. What you're supposed to do is port 667 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: right down the middle, let that head form, and that 668 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: releases the gases and it won't bloat you as much. 669 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: So I've been doing it wrong this whole time. 670 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to. 671 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: I wonder why I get so like, oh look how 672 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: good I am? 673 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 9: You know, I don't you want to do the bar 674 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 9: tender port and let it fall off. 675 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: It's it's a good marriage tip, evan. Just always release 676 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 5: your gases before before you get it, you know, release 677 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: those gases ahead of time and then you won't get 678 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: in trouble later. 679 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you volunteer to walk the dog mike. 680 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: All right, what else do we need? 681 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: Engaged Bay and It's like Vincelabarti's like, I haven't congratulations, 682 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: Vincent party is dead. 683 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 9: And he congratulated you. 684 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Donald Drivers statue way to him. 685 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: Graduation literally players going to the podium like aren't you 686 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: on your honeymoon? 687 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 5: Before I start, I just want to say love is real. 688 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: I can't thanks everybody, thank. 689 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 5: You, but what in all seriousness? We were there one 690 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 5: day and Mike public Greena was like, hey, do you 691 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 5: get engaged? 692 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: But I like, you know, like hard a lot of 693 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: hardcore football fans. They tell them what you know, their fancy. 694 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, we can't get married during football season. Evan 695 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: includes ot as. 696 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: There's only one they can get married one month. 697 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 4: She knows the schedule, you know, she knows, well that's 698 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: going to be the draft and then that's going to 699 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: be O t A. And I'm like, yeah, so our 700 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: sweet spot is literally like July fourth, Like like we 701 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: need to get married between like that one month period 702 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: between the end of mini camp and the beginning of 703 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: training camp. That's our sweet spot. 704 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: And honeymoon and honeymoon both. QUI got like six days 705 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: for that. 706 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 11: Wow, we get back. 707 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Anything else? 708 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: I feel like, wait, when was the last show ten 709 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: to twelve Tuesday. Yeah, so that was before we saw 710 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: Gaseki back to practice. 711 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 5: Right, Yep. It's good to see him back. 712 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: He's in a non contact. 713 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 5: A little surprised him. I mean, I didn't see the 714 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: I didn't see the injury, so I don't know how 715 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: surprised you. 716 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: Oh, it was pretty bad. Yeah, he was. He was hurting. Yeah, 717 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 4: I just I I know this is when I walked 718 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: out there and we were doing attendance, Alex and I 719 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: and he was on the Buyknox and he's like seventy one, 720 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: and I was like seventy one, Like what I mean? 721 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: And I gotta admit, like I sigh of relief, honestly, 722 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: like seeing just one starter back out there on the 723 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: offensive line, seventy one Mike on winning obviously, Like that 724 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: was just he is just a monumental addition because we 725 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: weren't sure if he was gonna be ready to go, 726 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: and if he starts the year on pupp then he's 727 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: out for the first six weeks of the year. So 728 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: he's I think he's gonna start week one. I think 729 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: he's gonna be good to go. 730 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: That's great. 731 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: I just feel weird about strange because it didn't feel 732 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: like even when he got hurt, it didn't seem like 733 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: that big a deal, Like he was kind of like 734 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: still working on it and running around. 735 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 9: It was reported that day that it was think the 736 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 9: tart the phrasing was not very serious or whatever, bizarre. 737 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: But I want to bring up some of that. Paul 738 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: was One of Paul thinks was that even if those 739 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: guys are ready to go, there's a good chance they're 740 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: gonna they're not gonna play Wired. 741 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Or Wild week one. 742 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 5: You know, you're gonna need to see some of these, 743 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 5: you know, young kids, probably like Mafi. I would guess 744 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 5: Mafi's gonna play some God. 745 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: I'd be okay with playing MASI. I think he's been 746 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: especially just the way that he plays. I know stunts 747 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: have been an issue for him up front, twists and stunts, 748 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: things like that, but he just plays such a rock 749 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: solid brand of guard that they can probably be okay 750 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 4: if he's in there. City Sow is a complete project, 751 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: and I want no part of him trying to block 752 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: us on Reddick. 753 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: We want but well, you know, I don't want to 754 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: like get too far ahead. But week one, do you 755 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: think the game plan will be? You know, to shorten 756 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: the game, try to keep it on the ground, keep 757 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: hurts in the offense off the field. What do you 758 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: think of opening up? 759 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: It's a tough defense to run against. 760 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big bunch of boys up there, but 761 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 5: I mean Jordan Davis and. 762 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: I mean they got Jalen Carter. 763 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: I mean it's like Georgia and Alabama like up front, 764 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: Like it's there's no easy answers against those guys. They're 765 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 5: gonna the Patriots are gonna have to play great on 766 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: both sides of the Yeah. 767 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: They so they're they're Fanngio Tree team. They run a 768 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: lot of Vic Fangio stuff. So there there's it's a 769 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 4: lot of zone and there there will be openings in 770 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: the passing game if they can block it. But if 771 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 4: they can block it, it's probably gonna be what we 772 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: repeat for the next seventeen weeks of the season. So 773 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: U you know, the Chiefs obviously is a totally different animal. 774 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: And I know don't have Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelcey 775 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: or the Chiefs offense, but they put up yards against 776 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: that defense. And I think the Niners probably would have 777 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: too if roc Perty didn't get hurt. So I think 778 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: it's the secondary is not as good as the front. 779 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: The front's unbelievable. They have one of the best fronts 780 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: in the league. 781 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: You think I was gonna say, I think the cold 782 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: strange thing is like probably like Trent Brown, where they're 783 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: like very small injury, but they don't want to like 784 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: push it, and I'm kind of poping the same for 785 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: John Jones. 786 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: I just like with him though he wasn't good enough 787 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: as a rookie to like give him that type of treatment, 788 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: And I really feel like the padded practices would have 789 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: done him a lot of of good of trying to 790 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: make that year to leap. 791 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: Totally agree, And. 792 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 4: I last year he I don't think he was very 793 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: good last year. I know that he had some good 794 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: games and he was better down the stretch, Like the 795 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 4: last month or so of the season, he was okay. 796 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: But I don't think it's talk radio fire to say 797 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 4: he got bench twice like he got he legitimately got 798 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: bench twice, Like there's no other way to put it. 799 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: But do you think because of the depth issue, they're like, 800 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: we can't risk him trying to make him better by 801 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: sending him out there. We need to I. 802 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: Don't feel that about it. I mean, I think Trent 803 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: maybe because they got like nothing besides trying to tackle. 804 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: But I'm with Evan and I think just as to 805 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 5: connect it to the Eagles, I mean, talk about what 806 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 5: Cole Strange struggled with last year. The year he's got 807 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 5: about five of those guys up front, you know, are 808 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 5: just gonna walk him back into the quarterback if he's 809 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: if he's not ready to play power guys. 810 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 9: And Evan you bring this up a lot like you 811 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 9: can kind of hide one spot on the offensive line. 812 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 9: In last year that was Cole Strange until David Andrews 813 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 9: got hurt. Remember those were his worst games. 814 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: He got exposed. 815 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 9: You can't afford to have Cole Strange being the guy 816 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 9: you hide. This year, he's going to have to hold 817 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 9: his own because whether it's at right guard or right tackle, 818 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 9: whatever they up doing with Mikeael and Wanhu, that's where 819 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 9: you're allocating those extra resources you're not allocated on. 820 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: The left side. 821 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 9: You hope he's kind of naturally hit a bit between 822 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 9: Trent Brown and David Andrews, but they're there. He got 823 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 9: bench last year when they couldn't fine him, and if 824 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 9: that happens again this year. 825 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: That's a major mate Williams took. 826 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 5: His lunch money and can I can I ask you 827 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 5: guys just a quick question. What was your reaction when 828 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: the game started out first offensive play with a Trent 829 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: Brown two seconds ahead of the snap like we saw 830 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: frequently last year. 831 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: So he tries to do this all the time where 832 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: he tries to jump the snapcount as the team that's 833 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 4: snapping the ball, like obviously pass rushers trying to time 834 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: up the snapcount all the time. What is he trying 835 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: to time up this? 836 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 9: No, that's the thing now, got Trent Williams does this 837 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 9: all the time. He just never gets called for it. 838 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: Trent watch Trent so much last year? 839 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: Did Trent Brown leaves early all the time? And I 840 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: don't know, I do. 841 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 9: A lot of a lot of the top tackles in 842 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 9: the league. 843 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith used to do it, but he was good 844 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: at it. 845 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 846 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 9: There's doing it and being good at it. 847 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: But I think, obviously, like those guys are great players. 848 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: But like I would trend size, like, I just don't 849 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: really see why you need to get a head start, 850 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: like you have unbelievable like length in terms of your 851 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 4: your kick slide to be able to get out of 852 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: your stands because your stride is like ten times longer 853 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: than anybody else's. So like, I just I don't really 854 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: see what the big advantages of him trying to get 855 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: out early. I don't know, Evan, you. 856 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Brought up Rock Purdy. I'm Tony from Canada wants to 857 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: know if there's any potential for trading for Trey Lance. 858 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. We talked about this a little bit on Catch 859 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 4: twenty two. I was a big Trey Lance guy in 860 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: the draft, and my big overall Trey Lance take is 861 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: I think the forty nine ers did him dirty. I 862 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 4: think the forty nine ers never really gave him a 863 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: fair shake or a fair opportunity to develop. He was 864 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: a guy that was one hundred and ten percent of project. 865 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 4: He had played one season at the FCS level. He's 866 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: a really good year, but then he barely played in 867 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. He was a one game season for them 868 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: with the COVID year, and then he comes in and 869 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: basically is behind Jimmy from the from the jump, after 870 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 4: they invested all this draft capital. At this point, I 871 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: think that if you're training for him, it's a twenty 872 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: twenty four investment because you're not going to he has 873 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: he needs to develop, he needs reps, and he needs 874 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 4: time in the system, and you're not talking about him 875 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: starting for any team this year. But if you feel 876 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: like he's worth it in terms of developmental track, then 877 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 4: maybe after spring and training camp next year, like he 878 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: could actually make a push up your depth chart, then 879 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: I could entertain the trade. But I have never seen 880 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: a team draft a player that high, invest that much, 881 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 4: that much draft capital and the guy and then bury 882 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 4: him on the depth chart. It was. It was a 883 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: bizarre handling of it. 884 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 9: Kyle Shanahans, Yeah, I mean, like the the Panthers, I 885 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 9: think I had one training camp practice before they named Bryce 886 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 9: Young the starter. 887 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson, who's just as much of a project as 888 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: Trey Lance was, is already the starter and he's not a. 889 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: Mistake for the Colt. 890 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 4: I just don't think they have any of their options. 891 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 4: At least the Niners have Minshew, right, Yeah, but the 892 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 4: Niners had Jimmy, so like that was a legitimate option. 893 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: But and now I see like a bunch of when 894 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: that was announced, I saw a bunch of tweets that 895 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: were like, I bet you the forty nine ers are 896 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: wishing they picked Mac Jones. 897 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: Well that was I mean, they were a little interested 898 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: in him, right. 899 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, so, and I wonder if this is what went 900 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 9: in Lance being a bus There's a report at the 901 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 9: time that Shanahan wanted Mac and Lynch wanted Trey Lance. 902 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 9: So Shanahan was you know, he didn't get the guys. 903 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: How do you trade up for it? Like, how do 904 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 4: you Oh no, it was how do you give up 905 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: two future first round picks? And you know that the 906 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: organization is divided off. 907 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 9: You know how much I hate that trade. You know 908 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 9: how much I hate that that trade. And the Niners 909 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 9: have a top three roster in football, and in theory, 910 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 9: they gave up the equivalent of Tyreek Hill, Bradley Chubb, 911 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 9: and Jalen Waddle. They could have the same roster they 912 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 9: do now minus trade Lance. You could ad Tyreek Hill, 913 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 9: Bradley Chubb and Jalen Wattle to that thing. Because they 914 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 9: have pulled off I think sort of what the Patriot's 915 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 9: trying to pull off. Instead of keep spinning the wheel 916 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 9: at quarterback and get stuck in the roulette for the 917 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 9: roulette for twenty years, just load up in every other 918 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 9: position and find a quarterback that's a net neutral that 919 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 9: isn't necessarily great, but just isn't back it. I'll lose 920 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 9: your games, right and they had that. 921 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 4: If that was their strategy, though, then, like Chay Lance 922 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: is the. 923 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: They blew it. 924 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 9: But that's what I'm saying. 925 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: They blew it. 926 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 9: They were there, they were right there, and then they 927 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 9: blew it because I don't think Kyle Shanny. I think 928 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 9: Kyle Shannon's kind of overrated. So are the Niners in 929 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 9: the Super Bowl last year? If Mac jams their quarterback, yes, assuming. 930 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 5: He's healthy, Yes, I struggle to make that leap. 931 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's an interesting take. 932 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: I think they have the pieces to make Mac Jones 933 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: look good in the same way that he was at Alabama, 934 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: in the sense that they were willing to go out 935 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: and get Christian McCaffrey and you know, keep Samuel like 936 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: they were willing to do what it takes to make 937 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: their quarterback successful. 938 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: Not the case everywhere, for better words, not the case 939 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 4: every guys like Kyle Shanahan. I think Josh McDaniels is 940 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 4: a little bit like this too. I don't know about 941 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien yet, but they they want their quarterbacks playing Madden, 942 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: like if I tell you to throw to this guy, 943 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: you throw to that guy, don't throw to the other guy, 944 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 4: like the system tells you to throw to this guy, 945 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: like the red tells you to throw to that guy. 946 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 4: And they just want a guy that's just gonna hit 947 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 4: the button on the controller and and that they feel 948 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: like their system. 949 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: Shanahan treats offenses like Belichick treats. 950 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 4: Defense, just in terms of like the roles and the rolls, 951 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 4: like do your one eleventh data. And that's why the 952 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 4: trail Lance pick made no sense is because he's a 953 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 4: guy that's that's a playmaker, Like he's somebody that's supposed 954 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: to elevate your offense instead of the other way around, 955 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 4: wherein all Shanahan wants is a numbers pusher. 956 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 9: They never write, they never need to make that trade. 957 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 9: They blew up the plan. They never ever needed to 958 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 9: do that. 959 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: They they were so close to bars, like this is 960 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 4: my take on on how the Patriots should do this, 961 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 4: and then they blew it. 962 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 9: I think that's what the Patriots are gonna do, and 963 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 9: they did it. 964 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 4: Well, then they have to have George Kittle, Samuel. 965 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 9: But I'm saying, I honestly, I honestly believe this. I 966 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 9: think it is easier to acquire the combination of skill 967 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 9: talent than Niners have than it is to acquire a 968 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes Joe burrow Es quarters. 969 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: You don't you fall into those guys, right, you don't 970 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: acquire them. They're not available. You have to get be 971 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: lucky or be bad, and you know, get them right draft. 972 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 9: I think it's easy to amass the talent around the 973 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 9: quarterback than it is to add the quarterback. So why 974 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 9: waste time just going through this quarterback roulette? Being the 975 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 9: Bears being that with the Bills were fears being with 976 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 9: the Browns were for years when you can just all right, 977 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 9: we're gonna go get all this other talent and we'll 978 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 9: just find a quarterback that makes it work. 979 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: But do you think it's still hard to find that quarterback? 980 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 5: Like I still like you know what I mean, It's 981 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: like it's like as I totally get what you're saying, 982 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 5: and it's but it's like, you know, like I don't 983 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 5: want to say like bruck parties don't just grow on trees. 984 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 9: Well, I would say this, Mike, it's been it's to 985 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 9: get which quarterback, the net neutral quarterback. 986 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 5: Even the net neutral quarterback. I feel like, you know, 987 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: that's not anything you have to. 988 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 9: I would say this in terms of how hard is 989 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 9: to find the elite quarterback, that twenty twenty one quarterback 990 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 9: class was generational. Trevor Lawrence pinned out that was the 991 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 9: first overall pick. One guy's been benched, might get your 992 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 9: the other guy's been bench bench again, is about to 993 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 9: get traded. And two of the other four guys, including 994 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 9: the guy that was called the safe bet is, are 995 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 9: currently on the hot seat. So if that's a generational 996 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 9: quarterback class, yeah, I'll go find brock Purty, I'll go 997 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 9: find Aid and O'Connell, I'll go find that guy. Because 998 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 9: if I'm gonna have to draft a court essentially one 999 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 9: way or the other, you should be drafting quarterback every 1000 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 9: year every other year. It's basically do you want to 1001 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 9: be doing that in the first round or do you 1002 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 9: want to be doing it in the fourth round because 1003 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 9: you can use those first round picks to build up 1004 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 9: the rest of your roster, and then when you finally 1005 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 9: hit on the guy in the fourth round, which I 1006 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 9: think the hit rate's probably kind of similar. Well, look 1007 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 9: at this. Yeah, you hit on a guy in the 1008 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 9: fourth round, and now look what he's stepping into. There's 1009 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 9: all these first round picks around him at all these 1010 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 9: different positions. 1011 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: And if you don't, he's always an asset, right, yeah, exactly, 1012 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: all right? Eight five to five pats five hundred is 1013 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: the ace ticket hut line. Let's go to Nate in Texas. 1014 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: What's up, Nate? 1015 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 12: Hey, guys to hear me. 1016 00:40:53,640 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, Hey, first, first time, long time love y'alls podcast, Douce. 1017 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 13: You're talking about orange juice with alcohol, tequila. 1018 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 9: Sunrise ape. 1019 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 5: Oh, I know, dude, I know orange juice. Don't worry, 1020 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying apple juice, though I don't know a lot 1021 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 5: of drinks like, oh yeah, don't worry. 1022 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 4: I got it. 1023 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 5: I got a orange juice all day, screwdriver. 1024 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 13: You know, we were talking about the offensive line, you know, 1025 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 13: and I remember I think it was uh, I think 1026 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 13: I was listening to this podcast, and uh, they were 1027 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 13: talking about the plants. You know, they throw a lot 1028 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 13: of plants in the last preseason games. Do you think 1029 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 13: that's because of the offensive line? You know, they want 1030 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 13: to get the ball out quick. I know you guys 1031 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 13: are there for the preseason games and then they're at 1032 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 13: training camp. Have you guys seen a lot of that. 1033 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 13: You know, you think that Bill O'Brien maybe doesn't trust 1034 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 13: the The offense hasn't much offensive line as much, and 1035 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 13: that's why they're doing that. 1036 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Getting the rid of the ball quick has always been 1037 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: part of the Patriots. 1038 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I think that's just Bill O'Brien's offense, right, Yeah, 1039 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 4: I think you know, we were talking about this too, 1040 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: A good thing about what I thought that they did 1041 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: on Saturday night, and what the plan seems to be 1042 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 4: is that the deep shots in this offense are gonna 1043 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 4: be calculated, like it's not gonna be. Last year they 1044 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 4: put Mac in the gun. They're running vertical routes all 1045 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: over the place and they were playing chuck it and 1046 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: duck it. And I think this year it's gonna get 1047 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 4: back to you know, timely deep shots are just kind 1048 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 4: of taking picking your spots, whether it's off of under 1049 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 4: center play action or like the occasional seam pass to 1050 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: a tight end or something like that, that's gonna be 1051 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 4: your vertical element. Otherwise it's it's back to death by 1052 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 4: a thousand paper cuts. And I think that that's what's 1053 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: best for the quarterback as well. So they had. 1054 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: They had a nice play against Green Bay where it 1055 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: was like a inside handoff very close to the line 1056 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: to Stevenson where play action where he kind of shoulders down, 1057 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, really hid the fact that he didn't have 1058 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: the ball and then Mac threw down the middle. I 1059 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: forget to who it was, but it was a nice 1060 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: like sixteen yard pickup, you know, boom boom, real quick. 1061 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's you know. 1062 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 13: That was another that was That was another question I had. 1063 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 13: You know, do you think is going to be more 1064 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 13: in the passing games? 1065 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 5: I think he'd be heavily involved no matter what he does. 1066 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 5: I mean that's just a question of how many snaps 1067 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 5: do they feel comfortable getting him out there. But I 1068 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 5: mean between him and Hunter Henry see a lot of 1069 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 5: a large majority of the place going. 1070 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Ye tell me who else is doing well and then 1071 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how much came below that. 1072 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 4: Remondre Stevens he deserves twenty two is on the KB train. 1073 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 5: So KB he's been great. I mean, he kept it 1074 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 5: up yesterday. I mean he just keeps showing up and 1075 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 5: he looks fast and you know it's good for him. 1076 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Jacket and aba. Right now, the training camp's nearly over. 1077 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: How would you rate the Patriots last three drafts, both 1078 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: relative to each other in an absolute terms? I suggest 1079 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is the best of the three, then 1080 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: twenty one, then twenty two, twenty twenty three excellent. Three 1081 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: potential starters in year one nine ninears, yet nine players 1082 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: make the team. Twenty twenty one very good starting quarterback, 1083 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: contributing defensive tackles, starting running back, and twenty one good 1084 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: starting guard, two cornerbacks, wide receiver, and a backup quarterback. 1085 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two good. 1086 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: Good, twenty twenty one good yeah, oh yeah, he didn't 1087 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: do it right. 1088 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two fail. 1089 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 5: Yeah f right now it sure it looks that way. 1090 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 4: Cole Strange yah Taekwon Thornton trending towards bust. Marcus Jones 1091 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 4: good utility dB return guy cool Jack Jones. We all 1092 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: know the story there, Bailey Zappy backup quarterback. The two 1093 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 4: running backs? Are they on this team if they're not 1094 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 4: fourth round picks? You know, if one's not a fourth 1095 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 4: round pick. And then Kevin Harris, like we both did 1096 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 4: roster projections, we don't have Kevin Harris, on the team. 1097 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, so I it's way too early. 1098 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 9: To Hey, you do like Chason Hines. You have said 1099 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 9: he's been good to hign. 1100 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 4: I like Chason Hines. There you go, you got one. 1101 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 5: But you're right, Evan, You're totally right. I mean, and 1102 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 5: then nobody wants to say, like this is past judgment, 1103 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 5: and you know, maybe Thornton turns it round, maybe Strange 1104 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 5: turns it around. You really hope that they kind of 1105 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 5: need to. But yeah, I don't know how anybody looks 1106 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 5: at that draft class right now feels great about it. 1107 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 4: Strange I would be serviceable. 1108 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say the twenty twenty class is better 1109 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 9: than the twenty twenty two class. Oh yeah, Doug, absolutely, 1110 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 9: and none of them are as bad like twenty one and. 1111 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 4: Twenty was in that class too. Oh yeah, that's a 1112 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 4: great class. 1113 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 9: Twenty two is not in like the seventeen eighteen nineteen round. 1114 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: Oh it's trending that way, it's not that. 1115 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 9: Yeah it Marcus Jones alone puts it ahead of those. 1116 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 4: Marcus Jones gonna be a returner, like you're talking about it. 1117 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 9: I say again, Marcus Jones alone. 1118 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 4: Just because he's a good punt returner, Evan, What are. 1119 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 9: Their biggest needs been the last three off seasons? They tackle, cornerback, receiver. 1120 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 9: What did they miss on repeatedly from twenty seventeenth to time. 1121 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 4: I hear you, but they last year was such a 1122 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 4: big draft for the for the team. It really was. 1123 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 4: And I think Cole Strange is going to be a 1124 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: serviceable starting guard in the league, Like an average NFL 1125 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: starting guard that was your first round pick. Like that, 1126 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 4: that's not good enough, Like average with your first round pick, 1127 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 4: not good enough, Taekwon Thornton. I I don't know if 1128 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 4: he's gonna be on the team in twenty twenty four 1129 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 4: like that, that is trending towards a big bust of 1130 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 4: a pick. Like I'm trying to other than Cole Strange, 1131 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 4: who will have his role and play his spot on 1132 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: the offensive line. Like are we sure that Marcus Jones 1133 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 4: is going to play defense? Like I I am not. 1134 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get a chance to. I mean, 1135 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 5: I think he'll get a chance in the slot. 1136 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: I think I think specific roles on defense against specific teams. 1137 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna need his speed out there just 1138 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: to keep up with guys and make sure there's not 1139 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of yards after catch. 1140 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think to Evan's point, it might be 1141 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 5: like you're the fourth matchup corner. You know, You're not 1142 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 5: even like, oh yeah, spot, You're like, all right, hey, 1143 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 5: I think he could be the corner. 1144 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 4: And he's he's And that was a good pick, Like 1145 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 4: don't like Marcus Jones in the third round was a 1146 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: good pick. Yeah, But I come back to too with 1147 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 4: with with Taekwon and Strange, you also have to factor 1148 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 4: in who they didn't pick in those spots, right, and 1149 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 4: the guys that they passed up in the in the 1150 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 4: first two rounds where they could have had. 1151 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: I wanted a speed linebacker. 1152 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they could a had Kwaywalker we just 1153 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: saw last year. 1154 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, there were so many people that I was like, 1155 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 3: it's happening, it's happening, and then it didn't happen. 1156 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Devin Lloyd. They could have had, you know, 1157 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 4: Christian Watson who we just saw in Green Bay. 1158 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: It was one of my guys. And I know. 1159 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 4: Everybody laments about George Pickens, but it's not just George Pickens, 1160 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 4: Like they could have had a bunch of receivers in 1161 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 4: the second round that have had better years. 1162 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 9: Honestly, Pikes the guy that gets me. And look, you 1163 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 9: can only go with the information she had at the time. 1164 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 9: You're going to trade up to fifty for Taekwon Thornton 1165 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 9: because you trade up to forty six for John Matchi 1166 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 9: because he would have been such a good video you 1167 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 9: didn't Yeah it obviously cancer diagnosis game later. He didn't 1168 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 9: know that at the time. That that's my second guess 1169 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 9: on that one. 1170 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: I just think, I mean, we've We've talked a lot 1171 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 5: about this. This has been what I've been hammering. Why 1172 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 5: they are where they are is because they missed on 1173 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 5: those drafts. Like Galax pointed out that those drafts. I mean, 1174 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 5: and I just think if depending if this season were 1175 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 5: to not go great, I think you'd really look at 1176 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 5: that twenty twenty two draft and say this was the 1177 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 5: icing on the cake of missing on a bunch of drafts. 1178 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 5: You kind of had a couple where he had some 1179 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 5: positive pieces in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, and 1180 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 5: then you took a big step back in twenty twenty two, 1181 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 5: and you know that that that could be a big 1182 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 5: problem with those guys. 1183 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two as a whole was a big step 1184 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: back for that draft class for not having an offensive coordinator, 1185 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: like just the whole thing back. 1186 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 5: I think it was a whole all the way. 1187 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: It was kind of a wasted season. 1188 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: It was like you set your team back, you set 1189 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: Mac back. Like who knows Taekwon could have been better 1190 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 3: right now if he had a real offense. 1191 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 4: I just feel like the wide receiver position in particular, 1192 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 4: and you see it across the league every year with 1193 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 4: these rookies. You know, you know right away when they 1194 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 4: step on the field, like is this guy for real 1195 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: or is he not? 1196 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 5: Like he just Donzalez White? 1197 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, right. 1198 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 4: Like and it just at that position in particular. There's 1199 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 4: so many, so much wide receiver talent coming into the 1200 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 4: league every single year, and all those camps that you 1201 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 4: hear about like I know he got hurt, but like 1202 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jig but was looking great. Look at 1203 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 4: Zay Flowers in Baltimore right now, Like all these guys 1204 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 4: just instantly just coming in and being good. 1205 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: We just need to get mad in a room with 1206 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: a blindfold truth serum. Who's really making this? 1207 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 3: That's what I want to know, because they could have 1208 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 3: gotten say if they wanted to say Oh yeah. 1209 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 1: I won't. 1210 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 4: I won't get on them for taking Christian Gonzales over Za, 1211 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 4: but I do like, I'm not ready to take the 1212 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 4: victory lap on Za yet because I don't do that 1213 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: in the preseason. But if this, if he's trending in 1214 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: this direction once we get into the regular season too, 1215 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people that called into this show. 1216 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 4: He went to Boston College, he's only five foot nine, 1217 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 4: and like all these people saying, like all the things 1218 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 4: that were wrong with him, the guy moves differently than 1219 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: everybody I knew. 1220 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: Well, I suspect he will be good, just because he 1221 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: was from Boston College and he was getting that much 1222 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: national attention. Yeah, you know, name the receiver from BC 1223 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: that got that much attention. 1224 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 4: We heard it all down year for receivers. He's too small, 1225 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 4: bad level competition. 1226 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: You knew we had to be good to, you know, 1227 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: to get that type of attention from BC. Yeah. 1228 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 5: I mean the thing that that bugs me a little 1229 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 5: bit is like, and and this is not a slight 1230 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 5: on to Mario Douglas or or on Kishan Booty at all, 1231 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 5: but it's like, if those guys that went in the 1232 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 5: sixth round are popping like this, like what would Zay 1233 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 5: Flowers look like popping? Because he's better than Pop Douglas, 1234 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 5: you know, like he's gonna so it's like that, And that's. 1235 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: Like the frustration of what we call him Pop Flowers. 1236 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 5: Why can't we just get one of these guys in 1237 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 5: the early round that you know, like it's it's not like, 1238 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 5: oh my god, a six round pick, It's. 1239 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 9: Like it's expected. I think that's kind of what they 1240 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 9: want Kayshawn Booty to be because he's he he does 1241 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 9: flash real first round Allent and he did it. 1242 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: Elis He's got burst man. 1243 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have so so Douglas. Is that that's 1244 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 4: the brand that they should be looking into. Right quickness, route, 1245 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 4: running ability, speed, Like that's what works in this offense. 1246 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 4: Just take Pop Douglas in the top fifty so you 1247 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 4: get like you get like designer brand Pop Douglas instead 1248 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 4: of But I don't understand it, Like that's the. 1249 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 3: Whole off season, I said, I really hope they don't 1250 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 3: get like generic Walmart brand players. Can you just get 1251 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: me like the target the like just designer brand player, 1252 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 3: Like I don't want to just want the brand. I 1253 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 3: don't want the Equay brand. I want the real. 1254 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 4: Then they draft Taekwon or like Nikhil Harry and you're like, well, 1255 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 4: that's not that's not it, Like that's not like, that's 1256 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 4: not what we want. And then they draft Pop Douglas 1257 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 4: in the sixth round and we're talking about him as 1258 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 4: a real contributor. It's like, if you had just drafted 1259 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 4: Pop Douglas in the second round, then that guy would 1260 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 4: be making the Pro Bowl right now, Like I don't understand, like. 1261 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 3: Even like cold strange, like no offense, that was like 1262 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 3: the equate version of what we needed for that position. 1263 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 3: Why couldn't you get me like the real? 1264 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: You could have had him, even if you love Cole Strange. 1265 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 9: To me, you could have had Christian Watson, who is 1266 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 9: that higher, you know, more advanced Taekwon Thornon. 1267 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 3: It's like if I have to google your school, if 1268 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 3: I'm like what what is that? 1269 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 14: Like? 1270 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 3: If I have to be like we're done except for 1271 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 3: except where, except for you know, Judon, he's a diamond 1272 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 3: in a rough, like I've never. 1273 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 9: Heard of his school before A gand Valley State. 1274 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, until now. But you're not always. 1275 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: Gonna find what about Leonora Ryan for Douglas. 1276 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 4: Dougger though, like people knew Dugger, Like Dugger was a 1277 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 4: big practed in the scround. Cole Strange in the in 1278 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 4: the first round was like up there with Jordan Richards 1279 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 4: in the second round. Like that was like right up 1280 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 4: there with some of the bigger reaches that they've ever. 1281 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 9: I remember there's like a four or five year stretches 1282 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 9: was like the Jordan Richards Tavon Wilson years where you 1283 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 9: watch the draft on ESPN and they have the highlight 1284 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 9: package ready and it's always he's gonna be the first 1285 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 9: player drafted that they don't have the highlight package ready 1286 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 9: for like four or five years in a rows Patriots draft. 1287 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Oh yeah, I was a safe. 1288 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 3: I just feel bad because I'm like, I really hope 1289 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 3: that the scouting department is not doing all this work 1290 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 3: just for like none of it to get. 1291 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: Used right well. 1292 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 5: And it's hard to know what to think, but I think, 1293 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 5: like just going back to your point to mare about 1294 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 5: last year and you know, just everything of last year, 1295 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 5: and I just think as we wrap up this preseason 1296 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 5: and all the changes that have happened this year, like 1297 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 5: that's what's kind of hanging over this team for me, 1298 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 5: is did. 1299 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 11: They get over last year? 1300 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 5: Are the guys that didn't really know what they were doing, 1301 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 5: weren't able to produce in the offensive system they installed? 1302 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 5: Are they able to get away from that? And I 1303 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 5: felt early in camp there was kind of a shadow 1304 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 5: of last season, still kind of hang. I don't feel 1305 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 5: that as much right now. It feels like they're kind 1306 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 5: of developing their own identity. But I still feel a 1307 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 5: little bit like, all right, you gotta you gotta show 1308 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 5: it to me, you gotta show me. And that's why 1309 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 5: when Trent Brown false started like, I'm just like, that's 1310 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 5: a flavor of last year and I don't like it. 1311 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 5: And the same way get that out of our mouth. 1312 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 5: The same way it's like, all right, first drive, you 1313 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 5: get the ball in a box, snap, you know, you 1314 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 5: get the like like you know, like those just all 1315 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 5: felt like. 1316 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 4: We always joke with Paul that he has his pick threes. 1317 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: That was a pick seven they did spot, so maybe 1318 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 4: you know that that progress. There's a little bit of progress. 1319 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 3: There, but without that pass interference in the end zone, 1320 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 3: it would have been a pick three. 1321 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he got held, so. 1322 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 9: He did get There's a good round combination that led 1323 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 9: to it, Yeah, Brian. 1324 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 1: Matt writes in after listening to Felger and Maz yesterday, 1325 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: Mike brought up a good argument after Trey Lance was 1326 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: demoted to third string. Would you trade a mid round 1327 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: pick and or Zappi for Lance? I feel taking a 1328 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: chance is a good idea if he's available. The upside 1329 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: is huge with little risk. If fans are so excited 1330 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: by a small showing from cunning him, I can't imagine 1331 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: everyone wouldn't love Trey Lance. 1332 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 4: So Trey Lance's filmed so far in the NFL I 1333 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 4: should point out as horrible. Yeah, like he was terrible 1334 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 4: in the games that he did actually play. The thing 1335 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 4: about trading Zappy for him is that Zappi is the 1336 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 4: perfect backup quarterback he played. He plays a similar brand 1337 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 4: of football as Mac. You know what you're gonna get 1338 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 4: in him, and Trey Lance is the total opposite of that. 1339 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: He's a volatile, not system fit backup quarterback. So like, 1340 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 4: who's the Like, I'm if you're gonna draft another Bailey 1341 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: Zappy next year and that's gonna kind of be your 1342 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 4: backup and Lance's gonna be your wild card and that's fine, 1343 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 4: But you can't trade zappy now for Trey Lance, because 1344 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 4: if Mac goes down, then you're reinventing the wheel in October, 1345 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 4: and that I think is gonna be dicey. 1346 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 10: It's a weird spot for him. 1347 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 3: Do you think they just haven't given Lance like the 1348 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: time and like effort to make because I mean, like, say, 1349 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 3: if that injury didn't happen to him last year, I'm 1350 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 3: like he would have had the whole season to kind 1351 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 3: of like. 1352 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, not saying that if they gave it to him, 1353 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: he'd still do well, you don't know, but they haven't given. 1354 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 9: Him the I don't think Shanahan never wanted to give 1355 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 9: him a chance. 1356 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's something. This is a good one. It's 1357 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: about Hard Knocks. I'll rate it, Alex. 1358 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 4: Do you watch Hard Knocks? Wait? 1359 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 9: I'm not a big Hard Knocks Only. 1360 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,959 Speaker 4: Only Fred is watching. 1361 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 9: It makes me sad about the loss of last Chance 1362 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 9: to you. That was the behind the scenes football. 1363 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:32,720 Speaker 5: Literally. 1364 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 3: Veronica's dad messaged her and was like, the reviews of 1365 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: Hard Knocks have not been good. He is a phony. 1366 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 3: And then I responded and I was like Fred and 1367 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 3: him are on the same page, same page. 1368 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has apparently never missed a throw in training camp, 1369 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: so much of each episode consists of slow motion clips 1370 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: of Rogers making perfect throws. I would predict that the 1371 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,240 Speaker 1: Jets will have a perfect offense this year, except Robert 1372 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: Salah hates the offense. Every episode he gushes about them 1373 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: on the side and then trashes them in every meeting. 1374 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: He's constantly saying that last year was their fault, in 1375 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: that if the team struggles this year, it's one hundred 1376 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: percent on them. The defensive coordinator is a definition of 1377 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: a meathead. He's the type of guy who takes his 1378 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: shirt off at inappropriate times and is always trying to 1379 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: work how much he can bench press into every conversation. 1380 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 1: Through three episodes, I haven't heard him say anything regarding 1381 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: defensive style, game planning, or philosophy. Just a bunch of 1382 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: catchphrases he read on a jar of Krea team. Well, 1383 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to be given. 1384 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 4: A nomout of that. But but it was it not 1385 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 4: the jets offense fault that they were bad last year, Like, no, 1386 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 4: it was the wind. Remember I'm just being I understand 1387 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 4: that maybe like Robert sala is coming off as sour 1388 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 4: grames because the defense is his side of the ball. 1389 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 4: But like, they are a playoff team with a respectable 1390 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 4: offense last year, so I mean right, like every player problem. 1391 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 1: Every player is contractually obligated to kiss up to Rogers 1392 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: no listen five times a day. This also apparently applies 1393 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. Zach Wilson and Randall Cobbs seem 1394 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: like decent guys, and I feel sorry for them that 1395 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: they have to play for the Jets. 1396 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 4: Finally, Zach Wilson's I don't I have this email, I've 1397 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 4: just disagree with. 1398 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1399 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: Finally, my uneducated opinion is that despite all the offseason 1400 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: signings and despite nailing the last few drafts, the Jets 1401 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: are still and always will be the Jets. I'm predicting 1402 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: seven and ten, with Wilson starting by the end of 1403 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: the season because Rogers is in a cave somewhere chewing mushrooms. 1404 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 10: Yikes. 1405 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, It's hard to know what to expect, 1406 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 5: but I gotta say watched a lot of Jets Patriots 1407 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 5: games over the years, and this is the most talented 1408 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 5: Jets team I've seen. I had a lot of respect 1409 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 5: last year for the players that they have drafted. Why 1410 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 5: the Patriots in this position. Granted they didn't have the 1411 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 5: high draft capital that the Jets did where they were 1412 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,479 Speaker 5: able to take some of these guys that have turned 1413 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 5: in the studs, but they've hit on them. They have 1414 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 5: hit on these these players at important positions. They've got 1415 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 5: some questions, but they've got talent too, So I don't 1416 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 5: know how it's not going to play out. That's what's exciting. 1417 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: About Spian Fresno has issues with Barth. 1418 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 4: He says, oh, hy no, this is your your new 1419 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 4: he hates your neutral quarterbacks. 1420 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, he says. Bart's net neutral quarterback take 1421 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: drives me bonkers. It's rooted in outliers and things that 1422 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: haven't happened. Months back, Evan made the good point that 1423 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: with Mac, it's probably the only route the Patriots have, 1424 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it's truly a functional path to 1425 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: title town. Can a net neutral quarterback possibly win it 1426 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: with everything schemed up in a full talent pool. Sure, 1427 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: that could happen, but it's extremely rare and highly unlikely, 1428 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: and Alex never adequately acknowledges that. He claims it's easier 1429 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: to build around the net neutral quarterback than to get 1430 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: your hands on Mahomes, Stafford, Manning, Brady, Wilson, Stafford, Stafford. 1431 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah he has. 1432 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 9: Oh that's right. He hates this take because he said 1433 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 9: he claims that Matthew like ms Matthew Stafford's or. 1434 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: Wentz, who was a superstar the Eagles the year the 1435 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: Eagles won. I don't even know Alex is correct about that. 1436 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: It's an empirical question. Regardless Barth the Niners lost. There 1437 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: is not a league super Bowl success with net neutral quarterbacks. 1438 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: Outliers like Nick Foles are not trends. 1439 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 4: So Tom Brady is not an outlier, by the way, 1440 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 4: He's part of the trend. 1441 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 9: So Nick Foles is an outlier, but Carson Wentz isn't. 1442 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 9: But that was safe to you. Also, Carson Wentz is 1443 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 9: good now and rams Matthew Stafford. Here's where he's missing it. 1444 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 9: I acknowledge it is very difficult to win a Super 1445 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 9: Bowl with the net neutral quarterback and assembling all the 1446 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 9: other talent. Because it is very difficult to win a 1447 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I'm not saying if you just blindly just 1448 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 9: do that, you're automatically gonna win a Super Bowl. Both 1449 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 9: are very difficult. We're talking about like again, so I 1450 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 9: think the net neutral quarterback plan is like more likely, 1451 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 9: say that gives you like a point six percent chance 1452 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 9: of winning a Super Bowl, where you have like a 1453 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 9: point five percent chance of finding that elite quarter But here's. 1454 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: The thing, and I agree with you, but but when 1455 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: you base it on the net neutral model and you're 1456 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: building up around him, it's harder to keep that team together. 1457 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: If you've got Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, 1458 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: you've got that piece, and guys can filter in and out. 1459 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: But as long as you've got that piece, you'll always 1460 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: be in contention. 1461 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 9: Except so it's easier to like recruit players if you 1462 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 9: have that star quarterback. 1463 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: But if and make up for deficiencies, sure that. 1464 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 9: But if you're but the idea of this plan is 1465 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 9: you just you cover all the deficiencies because you have 1466 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 9: the money to do it. 1467 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 4: Because this is what you never paying the quarterback. 1468 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: You're never right. 1469 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 9: You don't have that sixty million dollars a year quarterback, 1470 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 9: so you have more money to district. That's why the 1471 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 9: Niners have the roster they have, and they've been able 1472 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 9: to pay a lot of the guys they've. 1473 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 4: Paid because they had a bunch of top ten picks. 1474 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 9: No, but a lot of those guys have been paid. 1475 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I know, but like the Patriots didn't have 1476 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 4: a chance to get. 1477 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 9: But that's different. That's acquiring those players. That's different. I'm 1478 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 9: saying that. That's that's a whole part of this is 1479 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 9: you don't have that albatross quarterback contry. Look at what's 1480 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 9: going on with the Chiefs, right. 1481 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 4: But that's not killing the Chiefs. 1482 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 9: They're in it every year, you're right, you know, well, 1483 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 9: it's not until it Also, Mahomes is Mahomes. And if 1484 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 9: your plan is to just draft Patrick Malmes, good luck, 1485 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 9: good luck making that work in a five year window. 1486 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Point, if you've got one of those top six elite 1487 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league, you're always going to be in content. 1488 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 9: You're always going to be in contention, whereas. 1489 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: In the other model it can fall apart easily. More 1490 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: easily it can. 1491 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 9: But if you're if you're starting quarterback, it's hurt. And 1492 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 9: your whole roster is predicated on the idea of the quarterbacks. 1493 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 4: Kay, then there you go. 1494 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 9: Then you're done right, Then you're then you're absolutely cooked. 1495 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 9: As if you're the Niners, you can get down your 1496 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 9: third string quarterback and still make the NFC Championship. 1497 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: See. 1498 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna admit to this, but 1499 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 4: I feel like this is rooted in the fact that 1500 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 4: the Patriots have Mac Jones their quarterback, and really the 1501 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 4: only way the Patriots are going to be in a 1502 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 4: Super Bowl is if the rosters haven't ACKed it. 1503 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 15: How I'm saying Alex is biased, I'm saying that ninety 1504 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 15: eight ninety eight five of the Sports up dot Com. 1505 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 15: I first wrote this take whatever was a week or 1506 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 15: two after Brady left March twenty twenty. Mac Jones was 1507 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 15: a backup at Alabama when I wrote this take. So 1508 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 15: this has Yes, Mac Jones happens to play into it. Absolutely. 1509 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 15: I'll admit that I would like Mac Jenison. 1510 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Succeed because I like that would prove it. 1511 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 9: Right, He is a guy who. 1512 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 5: Could prove if they weren't a net neutral offense. 1513 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 9: Right. Yeah, you need you need to get that's speed. 1514 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 4: That's not a Mac Joones th Speece said in the 1515 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 4: email that I I made the point that that's probably 1516 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 4: the Patriots path right now because Mac is their quarterback 1517 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 4: and they're not going to get somebody better overnight. So 1518 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 4: that's their path right now. And I still believe that. 1519 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 4: My whole pushback has always been how they've spread out 1520 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 4: the other resources, Like they have decided to pay you know, 1521 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 4: to Tamara's thing, They've decided to pay a bunch of 1522 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 4: Walmart people to and then instead of you know, spending 1523 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 4: the money all in one spot, they've spread it around 1524 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 4: the entire roster. And Bill believes in that philosophy. He 1525 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 4: wants to have a strong middle class and one through 1526 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 4: fifty three and all that kind of stuff. And my 1527 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 4: as my mind nowadays even more so. But even back 1528 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 4: in the Dynasty years, it was Brady, it was on Kowski, 1529 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 4: it was Edelman, it was the High Tower, like those 1530 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 4: were the guys that were carrying you. But he I 1531 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 4: think otherwise, all right. 1532 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Bridgestone is the official tire of the New England Patriots 1533 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and proud partner with Sullivan Tire, New England's headquarters for 1534 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: quality Bridgestone Tires. Visit Sullivantire dot com to final location, 1535 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: New Year. We're gonna take a break when we come back. 1536 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I don't know if Evan's gonna 1537 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: go with me, but we got to get on the bus. 1538 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: So Tamara, Alex and Deuce will take you through the 1539 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: rest of the show. 1540 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Pregame show right, pregame show you could do all that. 1541 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just because I'm leaving. That doesn't mean I 1542 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: have to wrap up the show. 1543 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 5: T shirt Yeah, yeah, T shirt contest coming up. 1544 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Show it in the show coming up. 1545 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 8: Get in on the action with DraftKings, the official daily 1546 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 8: fantasy partner of the New England Patriots. New customers can 1547 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 8: download the DraftKings app now and play free for millions 1548 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 8: in prizes using code Pats. That's Code Pats only at DraftKings. 1549 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 8: Minimum five dollars deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings 1550 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 8: dot com for details. 1551 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 11: All right, we're back quick lunch break. Matisse Bauman here 1552 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 11: with Dylan, Cinderella and Alex Francisco is joining us today. Hello, 1553 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 11: you guys wanted to get rid of us, but you 1554 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 11: can't get rid of us that easily. We're here for 1555 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 11: the second segment of you know, the Lunch Break for 1556 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 11: Patriots Unfiltered. And first we are gonna start with a 1557 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 11: new little gig here. We are gonna do some quick 1558 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 11: Patriots trivia. So I'm gonna ask three questions and if 1559 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 11: you get the answer emailed into web radio at Patriots 1560 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 11: dot com before the end of the segment, the first 1561 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 11: person who gets the answer correctly will get ever so 1562 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 11: wanted Patriots Unfiltered T shirt. 1563 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 7: Did you guys see that people are like knocking these off? 1564 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 7: Because I posted a picture wearing the shirt ones or 1565 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 7: of Marcus Jones's parents with the shirts, and someone dropped 1566 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 7: a link underneath in the comments of a fate of 1567 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 7: a link that you could buy the shirts, but they're 1568 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 7: not our shirts. These are dupes. You cannot buy these. 1569 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 7: I just want you all to know this will. 1570 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 11: Be an official yes, Patriots Unfiltered T shirt. 1571 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 7: And whoever comment that stay tuned for your season desists. 1572 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 11: There we go, There we go? 1573 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: All right? 1574 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 11: So first question here, what player did Rob Gronkowski quote 1575 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 11: throw out of the club during Sunday night football matchup 1576 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 11: against the Colts in twenty fourteen. 1577 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 3: Obviously that's my question, that. 1578 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 11: Is that is Alex's question right there. All right, So 1579 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 11: that's the first one. Second question, how long was Adam 1580 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 11: Vinitari's field goal in the Snowball in two thousand and one? 1581 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 11: We need the exact yardage here, all right? And the 1582 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 11: third question, what jersey number did Dion Branch wear in 1583 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 11: his second stint with the Patriots. All right, those are 1584 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 11: three questions. First person to get the answer correct to 1585 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 11: web radio at Patriots dot com before the end of 1586 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 11: this quick break. We'll get the answer read correctly by 1587 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 11: Fred on air, and you should get a T shirt. 1588 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 11: But back to what we're here to talk about. So 1589 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 11: last week we talked about hot takes. 1590 01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 3: I heard it was super well received. 1591 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's that's why it's a hot take. But 1592 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 11: as I said on the last show, we're going to 1593 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 11: talk about whatever the hell we want to And so today, 1594 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 11: well pretty much. Madden twenty four dropped the other day. 1595 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure the other week. And I was linking 1596 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 11: back to the old days in Madden, where you know 1597 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 11: a team, you could move your team to a different city, 1598 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 11: you know, I start a franchise, move a team where 1599 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 11: the hell you want. And I was thinking what would 1600 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 11: be the next NFL expansion franchise team and what city 1601 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 11: would it be in? So, Dylan, we're starting US cities. 1602 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 11: We're gonna start with US. We'll get to the international, 1603 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 11: We'll start with the US. Uh, Dylan, what are you 1604 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 11: what are your what are your wants for a future 1605 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 11: NFL team? 1606 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 10: I think obviously it has to be somewhere in a 1607 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 10: big market where fans will be drawn to, not only 1608 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 10: like fans in the in the immediate area, but where 1609 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 10: people will want to travel to. That's that's like a 1610 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 10: big thing. So one of the one of the plays 1611 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 10: that I thought specifically for that reason, because there's just 1612 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 10: a mass population of people is Austin, Texas. 1613 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 11: Okay, so you want three Texas teams? 1614 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: I know it is. 1615 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 10: It's kind of Texas is huge, all right. Austin's far 1616 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 10: enough away from Dallas and Houston where I think it'll 1617 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 10: draw its own crowd, and the want for football is 1618 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 10: obviously there. With University of Texas, Okay, that stadium is huge. 1619 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 10: They could even host some team or some games like 1620 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 10: there if they wanted to. But like, the want for 1621 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 10: football is obviously there. Everyone loves football in Texas. That's 1622 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 10: been proven time and time again. So you're Austin over 1623 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 10: San Antonio, Yes, I'd probably say. I think they're both 1624 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 10: good options, but I think Austin has there's more in Austin. 1625 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 10: It's like the capital. People will want to travel there 1626 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 10: like that. 1627 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 7: Out But in that sense, do you get the La 1628 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 7: dynamic where there's already so much going on that no 1629 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 7: one really cares about the sports, especially with the Longhorns there. 1630 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, you think that'll ever happen in Texas where people 1631 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 10: won't care about football, especially like the high school football 1632 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 10: is obviously huge there. 1633 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 7: Definitely not, definitely not, but just comparatively to San Antonio. 1634 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 7: Those people have the River Walk, the Spurs, what else 1635 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 7: is going on there? 1636 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 11: I just think three teams in Texas is too many. 1637 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 11: You go first, I'll take you the city, my city, 1638 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 11: San Diego. 1639 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 7: I visited Great San Diego within months of the Chargers leaving, 1640 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 7: and I went to Peco Park. I went into this 1641 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 7: little sports shop. The man that owned this place was 1642 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 7: devastated that they took the Chargers from him, and it's 1643 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 7: such a shame. It's such an awesome city, it's so 1644 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 7: much fun, and they've just been robbed of all their 1645 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 7: sports teams. Fortunately, the Padres are back at a level 1646 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 7: where they're relevant right now, but I don't think they 1647 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,759 Speaker 7: deserve to have their team taken away. 1648 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 5: It gets no love in La San Diego needs a fight. 1649 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 11: That was gonna be my team as well. I hate 1650 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 11: that the NFL just force fed US to LA teams. 1651 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,480 Speaker 11: The stadiums always empty. Just it's the San Diego Superchargers 1652 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 11: like they should have did the act payers. I mean, 1653 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 11: obviously not my money, but you know, just pay up, 1654 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 11: build the new stadium. What was it Qualcomm Stadium they had? 1655 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 11: That was a dump. 1656 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 10: But so you guys are cool with three teams. 1657 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 11: And no, no, no, I'm saying move the Chargers back 1658 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 11: from LA. 1659 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 5: So that's not an expansion team's yeah. 1660 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 10: You're re expanding Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I 1661 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 10: like that city team. There we go, we're just wrongs. 1662 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 10: What about staying in Cali? What about going like to 1663 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 10: Sacramento up like to the Bay bringing football back to 1664 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 10: the Bay since Oakland they're no longer. 1665 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 11: And that's if we keep the two LA teams the 1666 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 11: new team. I yeah that I don't know. I would 1667 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 11: like a dream scenario. You got LA San Diego, Zach 1668 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 11: how it used to be. Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right. 1669 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 11: I like that because I like we're gonna say wavelength 1670 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 11: there for my US team. I was leaning Salt Lake City, 1671 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 11: but I think I think Portland Portland would be interesting. 1672 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 10: I had both of those, like as a thought, but 1673 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 10: I agree with you that I think Portland would be 1674 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 10: better than Salt Lake City. They both have like kind 1675 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 10: of a similar population, but I. 1676 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 11: Just I just don't know if Salt City could could 1677 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 11: keep it up the whole time. Oh no, I don't 1678 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 11: know if they could keep. 1679 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 7: Up the maybe, but it's a really cool place it is. 1680 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's beautiful. 1681 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,480 Speaker 11: I think you could get a really whereas Portland. 1682 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 7: I mean this is generally speaking, but what I think 1683 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 7: of Portland, I just think of Portlandia and. 1684 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Like, are there football fans there? 1685 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 7: I know, the SuperSonics were like the best thing ever, 1686 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 7: but that's Seattle, and it's like I just lump that 1687 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 7: whole Pacific Northwest region into the same place where they 1688 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 7: care about football or like. 1689 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 10: Poorly going back to college football. Portland is like I 1690 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 10: think the Ducks and the Oregon State Beavers both places 1691 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 10: kind of sim close to there, so it's like, you know, 1692 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 10: people are sort of into the football. But yeah, I know, 1693 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 10: I kind of agree with you where I feel like 1694 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 10: it all just kind of like the Pacific Northwest all 1695 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 10: kind of just lumps together. 1696 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 11: I'll do one more for you. 1697 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 10: So I like Salt Lake though, because I mean selfishly. 1698 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 10: I like salt Lake. 1699 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 7: It's a beautiful is easily a top three most beautiful stadium. 1700 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,719 Speaker 11: You could have a crazy stadium. 1701 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 10: And the Jazz are becoming more and more relevant. I 1702 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 10: know they're like if they're like one of I think 1703 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 10: they have real Salt Lake soccer teams. So those are 1704 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 10: the only two professional sports teams. 1705 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 11: So like, yeah, you know that, that's a good point. 1706 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,879 Speaker 11: All right, I got one more before we go international. 1707 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 11: This could be hot Hartford. 1708 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 4: You got to give them the whalers before you give them. 1709 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,759 Speaker 11: You know, I always I always wondered and that you're. 1710 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 3: You're you want to take you away from. 1711 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 11: I don't want to take away I love the Patriots, 1712 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 11: so I die. I'm just saying, would it be interesting 1713 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 11: to have you know, you got you got to New 1714 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 11: York teams, two Texas teams? Interesting to have too, New 1715 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,680 Speaker 11: England teams? Like how many people would gravitate to that? 1716 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 11: Would it be a big thing? I don't know. 1717 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 10: You think it would be a divide or would it 1718 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 10: be like more people who. 1719 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 7: Are people already have that identity crisis, so let's give 1720 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 7: them another. 1721 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Let's give them another. 1722 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 10: What about I know you're trying to move on to 1723 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 10: what you got? What you got? I was like, you're 1724 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 10: saying two teams in the New England area, what about 1725 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 10: another team in Chicago? 1726 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:04,679 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. 1727 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 10: I know the Bear Stadium is super old, so maybe 1728 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 10: they'd have to rebuild that one first. There's but yeah, 1729 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 10: there's two teams. Like you said, two teams in LA, 1730 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 10: there's two teams in New York. I just thought it 1731 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 10: was big enough. 1732 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 11: I just think the Bears just run that that whole market. 1733 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, it would be kind of hard to. 1734 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 4: Have an obscure one. 1735 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 7: I know that it's like important, like, oh, we need 1736 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 7: to have a big market. What if that's not the case. 1737 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 7: What if you go somewhere where there's really not that 1738 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 7: much going on. 1739 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 10: And then you to say, Omaha, not Omaha, But. 1740 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 7: That's not a bad idea, not quite Nebraska. But if 1741 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,480 Speaker 7: you go a little west of that Jackson Hole, Wyoming, 1742 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 7: people are loaded out there, so you know they have 1743 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 7: money to spend. What else is going on in Wyoming 1744 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 7: other than Jackson Hole? And selfishly, I want you want. 1745 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 4: To make that trip. 1746 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 11: Wants to travel? 1747 01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,599 Speaker 7: I'm like, what cities? 1748 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 5: Do I even want to go to? 1749 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 7: Salt Lake City? 1750 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm curious how many people in Jackson Hole or 1751 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 10: in Wyoming in general actually care about football? 1752 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 11: Interesting? All right, well I got the word. It's time 1753 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 11: to wrap up. So I guess you know, if we 1754 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 11: keep this conversation going, because the show is not going anywhere, 1755 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 11: we might bring international next week. All right, So this 1756 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 11: is the cue. If you have the answer to the 1757 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 11: three trivia questions earlier and you haven't sent them in, 1758 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 11: and you haven't sent them in yet, you're probably screwed, 1759 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 11: but you could give it a go. If people didn't 1760 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 11: send them in yet, Fred will announce the winners on air. 1761 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,560 Speaker 11: Thank you guys for joining me on this second episode. 1762 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 11: Let's get back to Patriots Unfiltered. 1763 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 10: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1764 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 14: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 1765 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 14: get your pick of our best deals, like my plan, 1766 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 14: where you can pick the person you want and save 1767 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 14: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to 1768 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,760 Speaker 14: a prison store and you can get my plan for 1769 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 14: our best price ever. 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I just but anyway, I 1779 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 4: did not call it Bill a mediocre coach. 1780 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. That's it was taken out of context. That's 1781 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 6: like Fred said that he doesn't think that mac Jones 1782 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 6: is very good. That's not what he meant. 1783 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 4: He was. It was something about something different. 1784 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 6: I've never thought of Bill as a mediocre coach, and 1785 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,679 Speaker 6: I've never said that he's a mediocre coach. 1786 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 4: Sorry, I might have said. 1787 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 6: I might have said something like this, if you want 1788 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 6: to listen, He's had eight plus years without Tom Brady 1789 01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 6: as his as his quarterback, and in those years he's been. 1790 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 4: A mediocre coach. That's what you said. That's what I said. 1791 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 9: I remember that. 1792 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 6: Oh that's what I was refunded the video CoA coach 1793 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 6: then without Brady, very very important qualifier there, Manny. 1794 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 16: Well, I think then everybody's a media CoA coach because 1795 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 16: we don't have to found Brady. 1796 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 6: Then anyway, Andy reads, Andy Read's not a mediocre coach. 1797 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: A good point. That's another great moment. 1798 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,639 Speaker 5: Hey, Patriots fans. If you want to see Toyota's best offers, 1799 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 5: including those not seen on TV, go to buy at 1800 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 5: toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from 1801 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 5: the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's 1802 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 5: go places. All right, we're off on our two deuce 1803 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 5: is in the host seats, so buckle up, strap in. 1804 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 5: It's gonna get it's gonna get weird, it's gonna get crazy. No, 1805 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 5: it won't. But first we had we had some trivia winners. Matt, 1806 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,600 Speaker 5: I understand, So let's let's run through those. Thank you 1807 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 5: everybody who sent in answers. 1808 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 1809 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 5: The first question was what we'll see if Alex can 1810 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 5: get these there? Or Tamara chime in? If you think 1811 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 5: what player did Rob Gronkowski throw out of the club 1812 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 5: during a Sunday night football game against the Colts in 1813 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, you gotta know this. I do know who 1814 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 5: that is, probably not saying it. Go ahead, okay, hey 1815 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 5: wait wait, actually it's one of your it's a Notre 1816 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 5: Dame guy. Actually, it's a Notre dame. 1817 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Guy. 1818 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Alex. 1819 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 9: It's Sergio Brown, right, Sergio Brown, former Patriot, former Patriot, 1820 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 9: threw him out of the threw him out of the club. 1821 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 12: Uh. 1822 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 5: And Matt, who is the winner on that one? 1823 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 9: Chadd in Atlanta? 1824 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 5: Chad in Atlanta, email me your address and your shirts. Congratulations? 1825 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 5: All right? Next one? How long was Adam Vinettieri's field goal? 1826 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 5: And the O one snowball? Now, there were two field goals, 1827 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 5: so I'm gonna guess that they're going with the one 1828 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 5: that tied it to send it to overtime. And he 1829 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 5: guesses there. 1830 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 9: Forty eight, right, forty eight? 1831 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 3: I have no guess, alright, forty five? 1832 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it was the overtime one. Man, I don't 1833 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 5: know either way. 1834 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 9: Ezekiel and Charleston got that one, right, Eikiel Elliott. 1835 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 5: Entering the contest already, congratulations, tell him what he's won, Matt, 1836 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 5: Patriots on filtered T shirts? Send your address in. And 1837 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 5: now finally another This is just I mean, this is 1838 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 5: as much of a lay up for Alex Barthurs. You're 1839 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 5: gonna find what number did Dion Branch wear during his 1840 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 5: second stint with the Patriots. Oh, stuck eighty four. 1841 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,600 Speaker 9: We'll go because my mind went to eighty three and 1842 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 9: I remember which one was which eighty four? 1843 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 5: Eighty four? That is correct, Matt who got that one? 1844 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 4: Tony doesn't say where he's from. 1845 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 10: That's poor to me, Tony Taylor, Tony Taylor, email me your. 1846 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 8: Address where you're from, and obviously your address in your shirt. 1847 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 5: Size Taekwon Thornton, Tony Taylor, t t Congratulations to the winner, 1848 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,920 Speaker 5: and yeah, guys, tune in again. I think next Thursday 1849 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 5: we'll have another one of those interstitial shows with Matisse 1850 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 5: as we get those rolling, and yeah, we're gonna get 1851 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 5: in the last hour here, Alex, I know you actually 1852 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 5: you mentioned some I'm gonna set the stage, Maddie. That 1853 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 5: thing that clip I sent you, Maybe we can can 1854 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 5: cue that up. But I thought, you know, I'm a 1855 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 5: big fan of J. T. O. Sullivan's The Quarterback School, 1856 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 5: and he posted, I believe it was yesterday, a full 1857 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 5: breakdown of Max game, and so I just had Maddie 1858 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 5: pull kind of the summation, which I thought was nice 1859 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 5: and kind of gave a little bit of optimism towards Mac. 1860 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,560 Speaker 17: Go ahead, Mac Jones preseason Week two. Now, let's not overreact, 1861 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 17: go bananas. But for me, it's just refreshing to see 1862 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,799 Speaker 17: the dude in what I consider a competent, comprehensive NFL 1863 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 17: offense that's given him answers or running RPOs. We're getting 1864 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,800 Speaker 17: the ball out of his hands quickly for the most part, 1865 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 17: we're going empty. He's hanging in the pocket, he's got 1866 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 17: his pocket movement, he's being aggressive down the field. Now 1867 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 17: was it perfect, No, but you know it's preseason, it's 1868 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 17: not going to be perfect. But I thought that there 1869 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 17: were a lot of positive signs for what this offense 1870 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 17: can become, what Mac Jones probably should and can be 1871 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 17: all the time. 1872 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: So good stuff, I mean pretty positive. 1873 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 5: Is that what you kind of took away, Alex from 1874 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 5: watching maca the other night? Yeah? 1875 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 9: The big thing for me, I said this going into 1876 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 9: camp like my big thing to watch for mac Jones 1877 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 9: and acknowledging we won't get to see it probably until 1878 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 9: preseason games. He got so sped up last year and 1879 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 9: was that going to carry over or was he going 1880 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 9: to be able to reset his pocket presence and his 1881 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 9: confidence in the pocket. You saw that he's manipulating the pocket, 1882 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 9: he's moved being around, he's he's for the most part 1883 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 9: feeling the rush. I had one of those sacks was 1884 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 9: like two seconds the guy got in the backfield. He's 1885 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 9: not going to feel that that's a breakdown on the 1886 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 9: offensive line. But you know he's gotta make He's got 1887 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,719 Speaker 9: to make those throws Hunter Henry and Devonte Parker because 1888 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 9: those those go balls up the scene that is going 1889 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 9: to be what is field stretching for them? So you 1890 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 9: want him to hit on those throws and that'll come. 1891 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 9: You hope that'll come. 1892 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 4: Again. 1893 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 9: It's a preseason game, but in terms of just where 1894 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,560 Speaker 9: he was at mentally, I thought he was at a 1895 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 9: very good place in that game. 1896 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 3: Yes, it was really scary because in the what to 1897 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 3: watch for this Titans game, Evan said the same exact thing. 1898 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:33,679 Speaker 9: Evan rips me off. 1899 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 5: They have one of a half brains. 1900 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 3: When we when he talked about what he wanted to see, 1901 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 3: he said mac Jones because he had come, he had 1902 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 3: confidence in the pocket. He was so much better compared 1903 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 3: to last year. Like literally, I was like listening to 1904 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: you just now, I'm like, this is scary. Was he 1905 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 3: in the room yesterday when. 1906 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 4: Evan was talking? 1907 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 2: Nope? 1908 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 3: Probably, So this is the same things. 1909 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 1910 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 9: The craziest thing is when me and him do mock 1911 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 9: drafts and we've sent each other like not knowing what 1912 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 9: the other person is doing, like, hey, I'm working on 1913 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 9: my mock what do you think? And you know the 1914 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 9: other one will be like yeah, outside of like you 1915 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,639 Speaker 9: got eight of the ten players to say, Like. 1916 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 5: It's we both McCall again, we. 1917 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 9: Both Mark Wamagat. We both had to Mario Douglas. Yeah, 1918 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 9: well the the uh this year? Yeah, we both had 1919 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 9: tomorrow I think in the same spot in the draft too, 1920 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 9: in that same six round picks. Well, part of it 1921 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 9: is because I find out about these product prospects and 1922 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 9: then I tell Evan about them, and then that's that's 1923 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 9: how he knows who to watch. Is I have to 1924 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:25,839 Speaker 9: tell him because he doesn't watch college football. 1925 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:26,080 Speaker 1: See. 1926 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 3: But I also think that Evan has a recency bias 1927 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,839 Speaker 3: like that. 1928 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,839 Speaker 9: That was my take. I introduced that he the Evan's 1929 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 9: favorite player in the draft is the last player he watched. 1930 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 5: I've always said that, or Connor McDermott. After he just 1931 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 5: watched Connor came in. He's like, I don't know, guys, 1932 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 5: I think Connor mcdorman's putting it together. 1933 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 9: That's why anytime he'll text me, he'll be like, during drafts, 1934 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 9: I just watched this guy's great. I'm like, watch three 1935 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 9: more players and then text me back and tell me 1936 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 9: what you think of this guy. 1937 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 5: So you're a really useful resource for him because you're 1938 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 5: like the guy. 1939 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 9: He will never admit that, but yeah, no, well, I mean. 1940 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,720 Speaker 5: I'm sure, I'm sure, but it's like everything and I mean, 1941 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,640 Speaker 5: you know, you have somebody that you can talk to. 1942 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I've just enjoyed this year having him where. 1943 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,760 Speaker 5: You know, Similarly, I don't jump into college football until 1944 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,520 Speaker 5: January February, I meet tamara Is already. 1945 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 9: People are always it's it's it's a double edged sword 1946 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 9: because on one hand, people and Evans and clues will 1947 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,560 Speaker 9: be like, how do you know about this guy? Like 1948 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:15,840 Speaker 9: what do you? 1949 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 4: What do you? 1950 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 9: I'm like, because I watch college football? And then he'll 1951 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,360 Speaker 9: be like, why do you watch college football? 1952 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,520 Speaker 5: Because it's it's like. 1953 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 9: I'm getting ahead of the curve. But then it's, uh, 1954 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 9: the other side of it is so I you know, 1955 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 9: I'm getting excited, you know, December January February, leading free agency, 1956 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 9: I'm getting all excited about the first round guys that 1957 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 9: my first round mapped out. By the time people start 1958 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 9: wanting to talk about the first round with me, I'm like, 1959 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 9: I already did that. Can we talk about this guy 1960 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 9: in the sixth round? I found that. I like, like, 1961 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 9: I'm just so yeah, everybody's catching up. 1962 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 5: We got to get you to the combine that would 1963 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 5: be cool, Like you need to go to that. 1964 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 4: Well. 1965 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 9: Honestly, the Shrine Bolt was incredible. I can't thank you 1966 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 9: guys enough for that, and specifically, I mean the fact 1967 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,560 Speaker 9: they took Tomorrow Douglas. I he was actually guy I 1968 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 9: talked to a lot there, yeah, not obviously not knowing 1969 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 9: he was going to be a pay and I got 1970 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 9: a really good idea of the kind of player he 1971 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 9: was going to be just through those conversations and watching him. 1972 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,759 Speaker 9: So that ended up being incredibly valuable. 1973 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 5: It was funny when we were planning it because as 1974 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 5: we were kind of putting it together, I just had 1975 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 5: the thought and I'm like, look, Evan, I'm not I'm 1976 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 5: not saying that I'm gonna suggest this, but I'm just 1977 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 5: gonna throw it out there, like, what are your thoughts 1978 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 5: on you and Barth doing the Shrine Bowl? And then 1979 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 5: going right to the Senior Bowl and doing the whole 1980 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,640 Speaker 5: circuit because I know you guys would eat it up. 1981 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 9: I would have done it. Want to be away from home, 1982 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 9: any dn't. 1983 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 5: You could see like the little football angel on one 1984 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 5: day his fiance angel on the other shoulder, being like, no, no, 1985 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 5: you can't be gone, but I'd love to go. 1986 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:36,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1987 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 5: You know you could see the battle was real, but 1988 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 5: but that was you know, you guys did did great stuff. 1989 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 5: And I mean you you you got to find a 1990 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 5: way to get to the combine. I mean that's just 1991 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 5: a Pope pourrier of pro prospects, and I mean it's 1992 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,640 Speaker 5: it's super fun even for me who doesn't know. Like 1993 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 5: by that point, I'm like, I just learned about this, 1994 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 5: Like everybody makes fun of me. I'm like, so tell 1995 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 5: me about this Marvin Harrison junior guy, you know, And 1996 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 5: I'm I know enough and how I remember. 1997 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,840 Speaker 9: Like Evan talked to deuced Ball and I get so 1998 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 9: people who don't know Ducewan went to Kansas State. He's 1999 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,560 Speaker 9: a running back. He's five to five and he's a 2000 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 9: good player. He's been tearing up Cowboys camp and well 2001 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 9: and so all right, short running back Evan brings Evan. 2002 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,639 Speaker 9: I guess asked him about Darren Sproles and he texted 2003 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 9: me I asked fun about darren Sproles, like he got 2004 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 9: all excited and I'm like, yeah, of course he did. 2005 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 9: Darren Sproles also went to Kansas State. They have a relationship, 2006 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 9: they work together a lot, right, And it was just 2007 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,519 Speaker 9: it was like one of those things. 2008 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 4: So coach football is the best, It. 2009 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 9: Is the best. 2010 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,360 Speaker 5: Well see, and you know you grew up around here 2011 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 5: like I did, and you know it's not really ingrained in. 2012 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 5: I mean, tomorrow will you grow? That's what it is, right, 2013 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 5: It's part of the culture there. It's you know, we 2014 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,680 Speaker 5: got a couple of girls that work in PR that 2015 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,600 Speaker 5: went to Alabama and LU. Yeah, and I mean, you 2016 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 5: know it's and growing up like that just wasn't part 2017 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 5: of Like I went to the BC game this way 2018 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 5: like that didn't that didn't do it right? 2019 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 9: Like I was, I honestly wasn't a huge college football 2020 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 9: fan growing up. I sort of got into it. I 2021 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 9: applied when I was applying to college as I applied 2022 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,839 Speaker 9: to Alabama, Missouri, and Syracuse, so I kind of started 2023 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,280 Speaker 9: following those teams. And then when I got to college, 2024 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 9: my friends were into it, and then it was I 2025 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 9: kind of started to realize once I started doing this again, 2026 01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 9: I would come into the draft and be late and 2027 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 9: it was just so much catchup or and I'm like, 2028 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 9: so wait a minute, you can tell me. You're telling 2029 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 9: me I can watch football and get ahead of my 2030 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 9: work and sound smart like no brainer, Yeah, of course 2031 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 9: I'm gonna. And then I happened to stumble into what 2032 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 9: is this It's not even just like the sport itself 2033 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 9: that the culture around college football, the community around college 2034 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 9: football is just mostly it's a big community and parts. 2035 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 3: Of excuse me, how you've seen the video floating around 2036 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 3: everything this time of the year. 2037 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:42,560 Speaker 18: It's I mean, that's that's a top five entrance in 2038 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 18: college football literally saying that she's going to be insulted 2039 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 18: that I'd even say top five and not top. 2040 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 3: One literally like probably top three. It's obviously I have 2041 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 3: to give you know, Penn. 2042 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 9: State there, Penn State's up there, A and M's up there. 2043 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 9: Yeah you know, but. 2044 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 3: I just every year seeing that video circulated, I think 2045 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 3: it was circulated like days ago or yesterday, I was 2046 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 3: just like getting chills to get ready. 2047 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,759 Speaker 5: Who they got who they got first? Who's tech got first? 2048 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 3: Coincidentally Old Dominion? When I when you kept bringing up 2049 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 3: Old Dominion, like O du. 2050 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh do you? 2051 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2052 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 3: So college football is back, you know, week zero this week. 2053 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm super excited about. 2054 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 5: It, and I mine too, aren't you coming up? 2055 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 3: I am, but I can't tell you which game. But 2056 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 3: I think that this is like going to be an 2057 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 3: exciting year, except for the fact that I don't like 2058 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 3: that the NFL is trying to jump in on like 2059 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 3: some of the college football stations, like some of the 2060 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 3: games that we have specifically held for college football and 2061 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,680 Speaker 3: now NFL wants them. It's like Black Friday. It's like, no, 2062 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 3: that's specifically for like college football rivalry games trying to take. 2063 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 4: In on it, Iron Bowl, egg Bowl. I kind of best. 2064 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 10: You can't. 2065 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 3: You can't have an NFL game on that day. 2066 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, that's that's it for college football. 2067 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 9: I'll take I'll take what I can get. 2068 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,799 Speaker 5: Let's jump over to the phones. Hey, Sean and Vancouver. 2069 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 5: How you doing. 2070 01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 19: I'm actually in Montreal today, but a bunch of Yeah, 2071 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 19: I want to I want to clarify something or just 2072 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,679 Speaker 19: express joy in a way because last week I called 2073 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,760 Speaker 19: into the plane about what was happening with Malie Cunningham 2074 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 19: in terms of his first appearance in the in the 2075 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 19: first preseason game, and with the way the offensive line 2076 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 19: looked that game, I was afraid that they would have 2077 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 19: to put him in with the ones just to see 2078 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,120 Speaker 19: what they could do. And unfortunately, with Chren Brown and there, 2079 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 19: they were amazing. But they were good enough that you 2080 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,719 Speaker 19: could actually see some developments and then were some plays made, 2081 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 19: so they didn't have to use Cunningham. But I'm happy 2082 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 19: about that because now I think he can make it 2083 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 19: through to the practice squad. You don't have to worry 2084 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 19: about him being claimed from waivers. So that's that's what 2085 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 19: I just wanted to express. 2086 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, what are your thoughts, Thanks, Sean. What are your 2087 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 5: thoughts on Cunningham? Now, I mean, he had that big 2088 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,080 Speaker 5: drive at the end of the game. He's you know, 2089 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 5: I just I mean I saw him yesterday going against 2090 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 5: the top front seven run a bunch of ight option stuff. 2091 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 1: You know. 2092 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 5: I continue to think that his primary thing is getting 2093 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,680 Speaker 5: the defense ready for Jalen Hurts, and I don't know 2094 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 5: what we'll see tomorrow night out of him, but right now, 2095 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,559 Speaker 5: that to me it's not trending, it's not continuing to 2096 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 5: trend where he's getting high level first team offense those 2097 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 5: kind of reps anymore that it seems like they're really 2098 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 5: auditioning him as a receiver. 2099 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 9: Now, oh the fact they were doing it. Maybe he 2100 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 9: got enough. I think he's going to make the team. 2101 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 9: The other thing, I still think their long term view 2102 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,720 Speaker 9: of him as a wide receiver, yeah, just based on 2103 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 9: the work he's gotten. Look, if he's a quarterback, he'd 2104 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 9: be wearing a red jersey. 2105 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 3: I know that sounds simple, but I literally have said 2106 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 3: that the past few shows, and I'm like, I know 2107 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,600 Speaker 3: that the NFL quarterback is trending in that direction of 2108 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 3: a guy like Cunningham, but I don't think that's like 2109 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 3: what they what they're keeping going for. 2110 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,839 Speaker 9: And look, he has some skills that I think translates 2111 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 9: super well to the wide receiver position. Obviously he's an 2112 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 9: electric ball carrier. But I think there's an element of 2113 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,800 Speaker 9: some people say, oh, just get him on the practice squad. 2114 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2115 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 9: I know he hasn't shown a lot, but there are 2116 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 9: a handful of teams I think would see him as 2117 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 9: a good backup, maybe third string quarterback and roster So 2118 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 9: it's all right, we want to keep you on the roster, 2119 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 9: but you're still developed mentals wide receiver, like I don't 2120 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,760 Speaker 9: think he adds wide receiver a true wide receiver depth 2121 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 9: right now. So it's all right, how else can you 2122 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 9: earn this roster spot for this year so we can 2123 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 9: keep you around as a project Is it as a 2124 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 9: gadget quarterback? Is it as a scout team quarterback? Is 2125 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 9: it on special teams? We see him do a lot 2126 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 9: of that. It's probably a little bit of all of it. 2127 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,960 Speaker 9: But that's the thing. They're giving him so many chances 2128 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 9: to earn a roster spot that that tells me they 2129 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 9: want him one yeah, yeah, And I don't you know, 2130 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,519 Speaker 9: he wasn't great as a wide receiver last week. He 2131 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 9: looks about a guy who's never played wide receiver before 2132 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 9: should look. But I think he's done enough and enough 2133 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 9: spots that they can look at it and say, right, 2134 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 9: he can plug in a couple spots as an emergency guy. 2135 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 9: If we need him, well, keep him around and we'll 2136 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 9: work with him as a wide receiver. 2137 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, even look at what happened with Jacoby Meyers obviously, 2138 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 3: like he literally turned to be a great wide receiver now, 2139 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 3: so who knows, maybe Cunningham will follow in those footsteps 2140 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 3: and be Max like Binky. 2141 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 4: The other speak. 2142 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 9: The other thing I'd say just in terms of, you know, 2143 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 9: because people say, well, how long are they gonna wait 2144 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:57,639 Speaker 9: for him to develop? 2145 01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:57,880 Speaker 4: Right? 2146 01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 9: How long we waiting them for him to develop as 2147 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 9: a wide receiver. Julian Edelman didn't really start playing wide 2148 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,879 Speaker 9: receiver two year five. And I'm not saying Malie Cunningham 2149 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 9: is going to be Julian Edelman, but it's an example 2150 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 9: of they'll be patient with this guy that Julian Edelman 2151 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 9: didn't start playing receiver here until his second contract, at 2152 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 9: least not full time. He'd play here or there, but 2153 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 9: he's playing defensive back. He was returning kicks again. It 2154 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 9: was that same thing. It was, how can you justify 2155 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 9: us keeping you on the roster while we work on 2156 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,320 Speaker 9: this when we build you up this skill set? And 2157 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 9: they've given MALIEK. Cunningham, I think smartly they have. They've 2158 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 9: given him a ton of chances to do that. 2159 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 3: How long did it take for Jacoby to kind of 2160 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,719 Speaker 3: well keep receiver? 2161 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,639 Speaker 5: That was a little different with Tough With Tom, Yeah, 2162 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 5: trying to trust in, but he was you know, he 2163 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,840 Speaker 5: produced with every quarterback he played. He all got to 2164 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 5: give him credit. 2165 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 9: He'd played receiver for two year years in college, so 2166 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 9: he was starting from like Malie Cunningham hasn't played receiver 2167 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 9: I think since, like Pop Warner. So it's he's just starting. 2168 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 9: Jacoby started from a much higher floor than these guys are. 2169 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 9: But if you use the college thing, all right, So 2170 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,920 Speaker 9: we switched to quarterback as to wide receivers, A junior 2171 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 9: junior senior call it one developmentally or here that's three 2172 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 9: years so get you know it only got five Malie Cunningham, right, 2173 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 9: call it right in the middle. Four Like that's totally reasonable. 2174 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, jump back to the phones. Mike down in Puerto Rico. Hey, 2175 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 5: Mike cal Area, Hi. 2176 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 13: Guys him, how all doing. 2177 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,840 Speaker 10: To go good? 2178 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 5: Hey? 2179 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 16: Hey, got a couple of things. I this is the 2180 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 16: first time I've actually tried watching the show live while 2181 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:27,360 Speaker 16: you are recording it on YouTube. And I have never 2182 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 16: seen anybody type with two fingers and long nails like 2183 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 16: Tamara has done before. Like that is a steel set 2184 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 16: onto itself. 2185 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 5: Oh man, I've got her. 2186 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,240 Speaker 12: If you can. 2187 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,760 Speaker 16: That you all live off of this who do you 2188 01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 16: think it is the fastest typer in the room right now? 2189 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,320 Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lay 2190 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 5: claim to that type. I don't know. Do you type fast? 2191 01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,000 Speaker 9: I know, I don't know. I think I type kind 2192 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,080 Speaker 9: of fast. I typed loud. I get accused of being 2193 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,040 Speaker 9: a loud typer, and I'm not saying that that's wrong. 2194 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 5: I'm talking on your phone on the phone, I'm definitely not. 2195 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:01,639 Speaker 5: I hate typing. 2196 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 9: I can type fast on the phone, but it's not 2197 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:04,040 Speaker 9: gonna be correct. 2198 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:05,639 Speaker 5: Evan's fast. I mean, you guys, see how much Evan 2199 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 5: tweets like. There's just like he's firing out like film 2200 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,679 Speaker 5: tweets like. So I would probably say Evan's probably the best. 2201 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 3: We have to take one of those we get a 2202 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 3: type off the Yeah, there are tests out there. We 2203 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 3: used to do them in school. 2204 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,800 Speaker 9: We'll see like your jumped over the brown jumped over 2205 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,040 Speaker 9: lazy brown dog or whatever. 2206 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, what else you got? 2207 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 16: My You're you're a great addition to the team. I 2208 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 16: actually have a game, but I got a couple of comments. First, Yeah, Bart, 2209 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 16: you are great addition to the team. Very refreshing boys, 2210 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,679 Speaker 16: very optimistic, and I like how you have no fear 2211 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 16: whatsoever in checking Evan every once in a while. 2212 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 9: So why would I be afraid of Evan? 2213 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 16: I don't know those polos and then those tip ups. 2214 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it can be very intimidating. 2215 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 16: And is there any way we can get a camera 2216 01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:49,719 Speaker 16: on Morrow every once in a while? 2217 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,000 Speaker 5: No, no, that that legally we can't show him. He's 2218 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 5: not Okay, do you want to see me? 2219 01:31:58,680 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 16: I got a couple of games. See if you got 2220 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 16: as they're interested? 2221 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, Okay. 2222 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,600 Speaker 16: At the end of the season, who is going to 2223 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:09,479 Speaker 16: have more receiving yards? Born in Parker or Juju and Douglas. 2224 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go born and born in Parker. Yeah, yeah, 2225 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to speak for anybody else, 2226 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 5: but I think a few of us, I think we 2227 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,240 Speaker 5: talked about it, and I've been super impressed with Juju, 2228 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,720 Speaker 5: Like I mean, I think you really need to see 2229 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 5: him in full contact, live game kind of thing. And 2230 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 5: Douglas is what he is. I'm excited about him. I 2231 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,679 Speaker 5: just I don't know how much volume he's going to get, right, 2232 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 5: but I think based on how Bourne's been playing, how 2233 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,280 Speaker 5: much he targets Parker all the time at those two. 2234 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go Born in Parker too. I 2235 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 3: really like the direction that Kendrick is trending in. Yeah, 2236 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,680 Speaker 3: I mean you can definitely tell. I don't know if 2237 01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,799 Speaker 3: it is does have to do with his off season 2238 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,920 Speaker 3: being the best has ever been according to him and Bill, 2239 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 3: but like he's been looking great and so I'm hoping 2240 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 3: that he can remain available. 2241 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 9: I talked about this with having on catch twenty two 2242 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,200 Speaker 9: because Evan was not high on Kendrick Borne coming into 2243 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 9: the season. I was, I'm a big Kendrick Porne guy, 2244 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 9: and you know, saying, well, this year, six jump for 2245 01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 9: him kind of came out of nowhere. I don't think so. 2246 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 9: He was kind of buried in San Francisco. Yeah, he 2247 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 9: had a really good first year. Here's not a thousand 2248 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,320 Speaker 9: yard pace before he got COVID in December, and then 2249 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,240 Speaker 9: last year it was never gonna happen. He was just 2250 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 9: set up to fail. So this what we're seeing right 2251 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 9: now is the jump I thought he would have taken 2252 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,799 Speaker 9: last year had his role gone unchanged. So I'm incredibly 2253 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,360 Speaker 9: high on Kendrick Bourne this year. I said earlier, I 2254 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,080 Speaker 9: think he's a thousand yard receiver this year. I think 2255 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,840 Speaker 9: he's a real chance to be a thousand yard receiver 2256 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:25,679 Speaker 9: this year if he's healthy. 2257 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:32,600 Speaker 16: Okay, I got three more more Stack and White or 2258 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:33,679 Speaker 16: jude On and Barmore. 2259 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 9: I'm gonna go jude On and Barmore actually because of that. Yeah, 2260 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 9: I think jude On and uh sorry, I think and 2261 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 9: Judon finished close. But Keon White's not gonna play a 2262 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,599 Speaker 9: ton on passing down, so it's just not He probably could, 2263 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,120 Speaker 9: but that's not how they structure their defense. 2264 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:49,679 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2265 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,960 Speaker 3: I like that pairing with Barmore, especially if he's healthy 2266 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 3: the entire season. I think it could be just incredible 2267 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 3: for that front. 2268 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it seems like he's kind of, you know, 2269 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 5: flirting with some top reps like I just and love 2270 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:01,720 Speaker 5: we get out here, and you know, I get it 2271 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,439 Speaker 5: when they want to stop the run and it's going 2272 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 5: to be Guy and Wise and Godshaw. But you've seen 2273 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,599 Speaker 5: a little bit of him playing that left defensive end spot, 2274 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 5: so I'd love to get him out there on base downs. 2275 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 10: All right. 2276 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 16: Two more more I n t Gonztal than Dugger or 2277 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 16: the Joneses. 2278 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,080 Speaker 5: Dugger is that all three Joneses. 2279 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,400 Speaker 9: I'd still go Gonzals and Dugger. Dougger's ballhawk consalt is 2280 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 9: going to be the most targeted corner on the team. 2281 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 5: That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, that's why. 2282 01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 16: And last one, unintentional f bombs? Is it going to 2283 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:39,560 Speaker 16: be dud. 2284 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 3: Me? 2285 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 5: Probably? You know, today was going to be an unintentional 2286 01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:45,920 Speaker 5: F bomb day because I thought I was going to 2287 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 5: be coming back from Tennessee late last night, and that's 2288 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 5: usually when I get the you know, F bomb under 2289 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 5: my breath kind of thing. But uh, that that's a 2290 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 5: good one. I think I'm gonna take that one, appreciate it. Uh, 2291 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 5: just quick thing to bring up to Alex. You mentioned 2292 01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 5: this and we talked about Mac a little bit, but 2293 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,320 Speaker 5: Reese is saying that that they might keep Mac out 2294 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,679 Speaker 5: of the game tomorrow night to protect him. 2295 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,720 Speaker 9: Yes, the exact wording was, Jones took some hits last 2296 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:16,000 Speaker 9: week behind patchwork behind a Patrick offensive line. Strong consideration 2297 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,479 Speaker 9: has been given, has to be given to hold him 2298 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:20,759 Speaker 9: out of preseason finale. 2299 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,120 Speaker 5: Interesting if Paul always says Mike Mike Reese doesn't tweet 2300 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 5: anything without a purpose or right exagivation, So, uh, something 2301 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,040 Speaker 5: something considered. I'd love to see Mac again. Do I 2302 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,639 Speaker 5: think we need to not really behind that offensive line, 2303 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 5: I think, and I think you probably have to hold 2304 01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,720 Speaker 5: Trump Brown out because he's like that, like you know, 2305 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,840 Speaker 5: to your point earlier about strange, like he's like if 2306 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,599 Speaker 5: Trent Brown were to go down, oh yeah, I mean, 2307 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 5: things are a little bit tenuous right now on the 2308 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,880 Speaker 5: offensive line, but if he were to go out and 2309 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,360 Speaker 5: not have him on the left side, I think things 2310 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 5: get even more more. 2311 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 9: So we did this before and catch only two Trent 2312 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 9: Brown top three most important player on the team? 2313 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:56,200 Speaker 4: Top two? 2314 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,160 Speaker 9: Is he top one? 2315 01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,679 Speaker 5: I mean it's funny because I certainly could say top three, 2316 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 5: but I also could say I don't know for sure 2317 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 5: that he is completely going to be based on his 2318 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,519 Speaker 5: own merit. Like you know, it's like in theory, yes 2319 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 5: he's the top guy, but he's gonna play like that guy. 2320 01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all well. 2321 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 9: His level of play doesn't impact on important. 2322 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 4: He is to the team. 2323 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,559 Speaker 5: In that case, he could be number one, like he 2324 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,240 Speaker 5: play as well, and he's a dominating left tackle, and 2325 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:21,760 Speaker 5: you know, you see some of what you saw in 2326 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,240 Speaker 5: that twenty eighteen season of him over there, then you're 2327 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,639 Speaker 5: probably right because I think, no matter what, we get 2328 01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,920 Speaker 5: optimistic about with the Bill O'Brien offense. I think we 2329 01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 5: all acknowledge that like that can all be teared torn 2330 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,639 Speaker 5: down in one second by a defensive line like the 2331 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,559 Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles, who have, you know, a bunch of horses 2332 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 5: that can get after the quarterback. So I just hope 2333 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:42,880 Speaker 5: that group can come together over the next two weeks. 2334 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 5: I guess you know, we're not going to see him 2335 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,719 Speaker 5: when you tomorrow night. We're not going to see Strange. 2336 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,599 Speaker 5: Then they'll probably have two weeks. I mean you mentioned Alex, 2337 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,559 Speaker 5: like they've had this group of five kind of together 2338 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,439 Speaker 5: for like I don't know, ten days or so, once 2339 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,720 Speaker 5: they move Reef inside and then they started giving so 2340 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 5: a chance at right tackle. So we'll see how it 2341 01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 5: comes together after. But I don't think anybody knows exactly 2342 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 5: what we're going to see. 2343 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,640 Speaker 3: So if we don't see mac Jones at all, then 2344 01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,679 Speaker 3: we could definitely see Cunningham again. 2345 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:06,680 Speaker 9: I would think, so, Yeah, I would think so. 2346 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,960 Speaker 5: I would think so at least to give Philly something 2347 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 5: to think about. And you know, I think at the 2348 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 5: very least it'd be great to just keep cunning him around. 2349 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,720 Speaker 5: I just I like that, look the Cunningham of it 2350 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,280 Speaker 5: all aside. I just think you have to acknowledge how 2351 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 5: dreadful they've been against mobile quarterbacks, you know, especially last 2352 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,960 Speaker 5: year with the two examples being Lamar Jackson and justin 2353 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 5: fields where you know, it just it looked like they 2354 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,679 Speaker 5: weren't prepared to handle those things, and they've been repping 2355 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 5: it so much, even going back to OTAs when there 2356 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 5: weren't even pads on there are, you know, every day 2357 01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 5: and practice it's a priority to understand what what the 2358 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,240 Speaker 5: read option looks like, and what the mobile quarterbacks look like, 2359 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,640 Speaker 5: and how to disrupt those plays. So I like how 2360 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 5: they've been practicing it. Cunningham parts of the side, but 2361 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:47,080 Speaker 5: we'll see. Jullian Hurts is a whole different animal. Back 2362 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,760 Speaker 5: to the phones. Kevin out in Oregon. Hey, Kevin, how's 2363 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:50,040 Speaker 5: it going. 2364 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,439 Speaker 12: I'm actually doing pretty good. I had a couple of 2365 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 12: the things that I wanted to ask you guys. My 2366 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 12: number one thing I have heard you guys really talk 2367 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:06,680 Speaker 12: about the Jonathan Jones thing, Like, is that do you 2368 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 12: guys have like an update on that? 2369 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 5: No, But I mean I think you've heard from Reese 2370 01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,840 Speaker 5: a couple of reports to that he's he's expected to 2371 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,720 Speaker 5: be back that it's not that it's not a big deal. 2372 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 5: That this has been more precautionary than anything. So that's 2373 01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,639 Speaker 5: kind of what we're going by. I think we're all 2374 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 5: a little bit on blind faith with that, because if 2375 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,120 Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones wasn't out there, I do think it would 2376 01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:25,680 Speaker 5: be a little bit scary. But I you know, I 2377 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:29,200 Speaker 5: think so far with Jonathan Jack Jones, Zales, I mean, 2378 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,360 Speaker 5: you got you know, two second year guys and and 2379 01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,240 Speaker 5: a rookie back there, it's uh, you know, we know 2380 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 5: what the Eagles receiving car looks like. That's not not 2381 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:36,639 Speaker 5: a deal. 2382 01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 3: I do appreciate that they've kind of been putting bubble 2383 01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 3: wrap around certain people. I know it's frustrating practice wise 2384 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 3: because you can't really see anything. But I think that, 2385 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,559 Speaker 3: you know, even with Trent Brown where he said where 2386 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,280 Speaker 3: it was reported that you know, it was a minor 2387 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,080 Speaker 3: injury that they were just kind of trying to take 2388 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,640 Speaker 3: it easy on hopefully the same with John Jones. 2389 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,080 Speaker 5: And Pop Douglas and like a couple of these guys 2390 01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 5: that come and they rehab and then they come back. 2391 01:38:58,600 --> 01:38:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 2392 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 12: And not to change the subject, Samara, I do have 2393 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,760 Speaker 12: a quick one for you so I get blown up 2394 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,560 Speaker 12: because I live in Oregon and I'm one of the 2395 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,600 Speaker 12: few Patriots fans here. And that goes back to what 2396 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 12: you guys were saying earlier, which is would they ever 2397 01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 12: build a stadium here for a teams? This state is 2398 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 12: primarily women's sports, so like they would build a women's 2399 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:25,720 Speaker 12: soccer stadium before they would build an NFL. That's just 2400 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 12: that's the real thing. And like the second thing with 2401 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 12: Ezekiel Elliott, when you did your interview, everybody's blowing me 2402 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,160 Speaker 12: up telling me he's fat. When you were next to him, 2403 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,400 Speaker 12: did you feel like he was normal size on my 2404 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 12: normal size? 2405 01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, I will preface this by saying I was standing 2406 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 3: on a box in that video, so I would say, 2407 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,679 Speaker 3: like he is. Like my first impressions of him, he's 2408 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 3: a pretty big back and not in es sense of 2409 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 3: like a fat one, but more kind of like stocky. 2410 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and tall. 2411 01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 3: He's a thick guy. And I mean, honestly, you've seen 2412 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 3: hit when he's out there blocking, So I think it's 2413 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:03,960 Speaker 3: really beneficial for him to have that, and I think 2414 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,439 Speaker 3: it doesn't really slow him down at all. 2415 01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 9: I do think he was wearing two sweat shags. Yeah, 2416 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 9: So that that that'll make him look a little bulkier. 2417 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like Judun's out there with a huge sweatshirt 2418 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 3: on every day. 2419 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 5: Like i'd say to Kevin, he moved, he's moving pretty good. 2420 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:19,559 Speaker 5: He doesn't look like he's carrying. Yeah, I haven't seen 2421 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 5: the six pack that you know, it's tucked up and 2422 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:22,479 Speaker 5: everything like he used to have. 2423 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:23,920 Speaker 3: Do you think he'll do that like Tuckan? 2424 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,559 Speaker 12: You want one third thing? To Christian Gonzalez. I've seen 2425 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 12: him get burned three times. He plays really soft in 2426 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 12: the zone. How do you guys feel about Christian Gonzalez 2427 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 12: because he's our first round pick, but he almost seems 2428 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 12: like he's just trying to feel out where he sits, 2429 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,960 Speaker 12: and it's like he's playing really soft on players instead 2430 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 12: of just going full like full on contact. Am I 2431 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 12: am I the only one missing that? 2432 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 5: Or good outs you want to jump on? I got 2433 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 5: a lot of feelings on thanks. Kevin will answer that 2434 01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:57,639 Speaker 5: one for sure. 2435 01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 9: He's definitely better in man than zone at this point. 2436 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 9: I mean it's like man coverage. I think he's been 2437 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 9: very good zone. He's still sort of learning his roles 2438 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,880 Speaker 9: in assignments, but he shouldn't be playing a lot of zone. 2439 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 9: I hope he doesn't end up playing a lot of 2440 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,080 Speaker 9: his own, So that'll come. That'll come in time. That's 2441 01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 9: just mastering the playbook and getting chemistry down with the 2442 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 9: other guys in the secondary. But take your time with that. 2443 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 4: I hit. 2444 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 9: The plan for him should be to go back to 2445 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,760 Speaker 9: those old Stefan Gilmour Durell reeve is to keep to 2446 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,320 Speaker 9: leave defenses where it's you and that guy. You could 2447 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 9: take it over here and we're gonna play at ten 2448 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,040 Speaker 9: on ten over here. That should be what he's doing 2449 01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:31,200 Speaker 9: in Zone's not a part of that. 2450 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think and even coming 2451 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 5: in the season, I just said and I think everything 2452 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 5: I kind of felt coming in was true. This is 2453 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 5: a twenty one year old kid. He's very young, and 2454 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,679 Speaker 5: he's super athletic. So I think his athleticism has bought 2455 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,439 Speaker 5: him time. And because I mean, I even think on 2456 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,840 Speaker 5: the PI call he got, you know, he kind of 2457 01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,640 Speaker 5: sat and then he had enough athleticism, which I just 2458 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 5: thought was remarkable to recover. Now he committed the penalty 2459 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 5: and you know it might have been a little bit 2460 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,519 Speaker 5: of a ticky tacky call. That's fine, but I think 2461 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,040 Speaker 5: that's what you see a lot with these guys when 2462 01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 5: they're used to just like just follow the guy, play man. 2463 01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,479 Speaker 5: It's not horrible when you get into zone and match 2464 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 5: coverage and there's all kinds of rules by how the 2465 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,559 Speaker 5: routes disperse five yards off the line of scrimmage. Those 2466 01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,439 Speaker 5: are mental parts of the pro game that he's going 2467 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,320 Speaker 5: to have to learn. So I've just preached a little 2468 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,280 Speaker 5: bit of patience. I know he's you know, first round pick, 2469 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,280 Speaker 5: seventeenth overall, but I think that he has all the 2470 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,880 Speaker 5: tools and just that athleticism. It gives him a little 2471 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,400 Speaker 5: bit of time to play with stuff. Like a lot 2472 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 5: of guys they squad on that route, they're getting burned, 2473 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 5: like there's no way they have the athleticism to make 2474 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 5: up and get back into phase into the coverage. So 2475 01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,439 Speaker 5: but but you know, I hear like I thought we 2476 01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:30,639 Speaker 5: saw good progress in that game. 2477 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 10: Though. 2478 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,920 Speaker 5: We saw a nice tackle on a screen on third 2479 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 5: down to get off the field. We saw a little 2480 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 5: bit of physicality on the sidelines, not you know, without 2481 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,599 Speaker 5: getting a penalty. So I think every time he's kind 2482 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,640 Speaker 5: of taken the field DC some room for improved. Absolutely, 2483 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,560 Speaker 5: but I think he's got all the tools, and I 2484 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,639 Speaker 5: think it's it's gonna progress. There's gonna be times he's 2485 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 5: gonna get smoked this year, probably by the aj Browns 2486 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,720 Speaker 5: of the world. It is what it is. But take 2487 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:52,760 Speaker 5: some of those lumps. Even Stefan Gilmore. You brought him 2488 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 5: on Ballox, similar kind of thing. I thought when he 2489 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 5: first got here, when it's like, oh man, he doesn't 2490 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,640 Speaker 5: know what he's doing in zone, they figured it out. 2491 01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 5: You know, they get they get a feel for how 2492 01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 5: these how their defense works as one, and once they 2493 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,880 Speaker 5: get that down that they're great. He's twenty one years old, 2494 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:08,720 Speaker 5: so I mean, you're talking guy. He's gonna be twenty five, 2495 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,639 Speaker 5: twenty six at the end of his first contract. He's 2496 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:11,639 Speaker 5: got a long career ahead of. 2497 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,439 Speaker 3: What do you think between like him and like Sauce Gardner. 2498 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I still think Sauce Gardner was the better 2499 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,240 Speaker 5: player coming out of I think Sauce, I don't know 2500 01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,120 Speaker 5: their exact ages. You know, he's just a little more 2501 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,240 Speaker 5: physical dude. I mean, I think that's that's what he is. 2502 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,479 Speaker 5: But you know it's just look, we've been watching the 2503 01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,000 Speaker 5: Patriots defense forever. They got plenty of physical dudes. Yeah, 2504 01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,240 Speaker 5: I want athleticism, and that's like what I think this 2505 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 5: you know, size too, you know, it doesn't necessarily have 2506 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 5: to be this, you know, I think when they draft 2507 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 5: to like Juwan Williams, like we're looking for a big 2508 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,839 Speaker 5: corner who can maybe match up with the bigger receivers, 2509 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,280 Speaker 5: he doesn't have to be that. I just love having 2510 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,560 Speaker 5: a guy with his movement skills in the secondary. I 2511 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:44,759 Speaker 5: think it's going to make a big difference. 2512 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,599 Speaker 3: Okay. I love that we're talking about this room because 2513 01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:49,120 Speaker 3: now I have questions. I have not looked at either 2514 01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 3: one of you guys fifty three man roster projections, But 2515 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 3: where'd you guys have Sean Wade. 2516 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 5: I think he's on the I mean I haven't done 2517 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,800 Speaker 5: a fifty three, but I think he's right on the 2518 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:00,479 Speaker 5: cusp right now. And I mean I think, like, I 2519 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 5: love Bolden. I loved Isaiah Bolden. You know, I'm glad 2520 01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 5: to hear that he's doing okay, hopefully he's out of 2521 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,720 Speaker 5: concussion protocol. I think that's where you're looking for, like 2522 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,680 Speaker 5: one of those extra corners. And I just when I 2523 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,400 Speaker 5: look at Bolden, I'm like, this guy just looks physically 2524 01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 5: like a stud, and I want him on the field 2525 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 5: in some capacity, and even speed too, even though I 2526 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,360 Speaker 5: haven't really steam much out of speed at cornerback. But 2527 01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:20,880 Speaker 5: I think if Bolden's gonna be out for a while, 2528 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,719 Speaker 5: it might open the door for Wade, who I thought 2529 01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,519 Speaker 5: has had a pretty good camp, but I just have 2530 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,960 Speaker 5: never been consistently impressed by him. 2531 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,519 Speaker 9: I had him off. I have just the main five corners, 2532 01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,960 Speaker 9: the three Joneses, Gonzalez, and Miles Bryant. I think they 2533 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 9: could get Sean Wade to the practice squad of mere speed, 2534 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,439 Speaker 9: Isaiah Bolden, all of them. And the thing about Sean Wade, 2535 01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,759 Speaker 9: as good as he's looked, they don't need another slot corner, 2536 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 9: and Sean Wade's really he's not an outside guy. He's 2537 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,720 Speaker 9: a pure slot corner. They've experimented with that, but he's 2538 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 9: a slot corner. So, you know, I thought Bolden of 2539 01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,559 Speaker 9: those three, had the best chance to make the team 2540 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 9: because he gives them something they need, a big outside corner. 2541 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,720 Speaker 9: We'll see if he's ready for the season. Obviously, it 2542 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 9: sounds like he's okay, like he's just dealing, which obviously 2543 01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,320 Speaker 9: is you know, okay, he's dealing with the concussion. But 2544 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 9: from where we were Saturday Night to where we are now, 2545 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,760 Speaker 9: I would say it's all very encouraging, but you know, 2546 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,600 Speaker 9: we'll see if he's ready for the regular season or 2547 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:10,880 Speaker 9: not what happens with that. I thought he had the 2548 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 9: best chance, but if he's not in the picture, a 2549 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 9: mere speed is still very raw. If they keep him, 2550 01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,000 Speaker 9: it's to play special teams. I don't think it's to 2551 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 9: play corner. And again, Sean Widge is if they get 2552 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,479 Speaker 9: to a point where they need a slot corner, he's 2553 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:25,679 Speaker 9: the guy. But it's all slot corners right now. Jonathan 2554 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,760 Speaker 9: Jones can play both Marcus Jones, they have. 2555 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 5: Him playing both. 2556 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,360 Speaker 9: I don't love him playing on the battles outside of 2557 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,559 Speaker 9: certain matchups, but he can do that. So it might 2558 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:35,800 Speaker 9: be a thing if you end up in a spot 2559 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 9: where you have to have Jonathan Jones and Marcus Jones 2560 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,599 Speaker 9: both playing on the boundary because you're down Christian Zaliz 2561 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 9: and you're down Jack Jones. That's where Sean Wade comes in. 2562 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 9: But it even Miles Bryant told play in the slot 2563 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,879 Speaker 9: as well. He's even gotten some looks on the outside. 2564 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,920 Speaker 5: So I think Briddy Randall has been okay the last 2565 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 5: week or so. I mean I thought he got really 2566 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,880 Speaker 5: picked on bad against it. He had a rough start 2567 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,400 Speaker 5: to camp, but I mean, look, he's just been okay, 2568 01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 5: you know. I mean it's he's made a couple of 2569 01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:58,680 Speaker 5: plays in the game and a nice past defense was 2570 01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 5: sticking with the guy, so you know, you never know. 2571 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,240 Speaker 5: But it's always interesting how it's gonna play out with 2572 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 5: the practice squad and what they need and where they 2573 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,720 Speaker 5: need depth. And I think that that's, you know, an 2574 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,840 Speaker 5: interesting position. But I think generally I agree with Alex. 2575 01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 5: Is it gonna be that hard to get those guys 2576 01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 5: through to the practice squad? Probably not, But but I 2577 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,280 Speaker 5: just I continue to be intrigued by Bolden. Unfortunately. I 2578 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:18,880 Speaker 5: don't know about you guys, but like, well, when I 2579 01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 5: was watching the game, I had him on the down 2580 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 5: list before he got hurt, like he was getting picked on. 2581 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,160 Speaker 5: He was, you know, allowing some catches and you know, 2582 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,960 Speaker 5: but I think overall he's show he's shown some promise, 2583 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,120 Speaker 5: so I'm still intrigued by him. 2584 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a guy. I don't know that you're gonna 2585 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:32,719 Speaker 9: come out a week one and put him on AJ Brown, 2586 01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 9: But just the raw tools he showed, it was like, 2587 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,559 Speaker 9: keep this guy here. And you know, maybe late in 2588 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 9: the season he becomes a guy that you can start 2589 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,240 Speaker 9: factoring in because I didn't think he was that far away. 2590 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,400 Speaker 9: He wasn't ready, but he wasn't that far away. He's 2591 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,120 Speaker 9: not that far away. Shouldn't say that in the past tense, like, 2592 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,559 Speaker 9: I still think they could do that. But the other 2593 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,080 Speaker 9: wild card here, and it's tough to say, do are 2594 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,840 Speaker 9: they flexible with moving Jalen Mills back to corner or 2595 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 9: is he at safety period? Full stop? 2596 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 5: Because it's good there. 2597 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 9: I love he's I think think he's been their best 2598 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:01,640 Speaker 9: player in the preseason. 2599 01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:02,320 Speaker 4: I do. 2600 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,680 Speaker 9: He's so natural. He should have been in that role 2601 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 9: this whole time when they signed him two years ago. 2602 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,360 Speaker 9: And granted, right, Kyle Dugger hadn't really broken out yet, 2603 01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 9: so we didn't know. They looked a little thinner at 2604 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,559 Speaker 9: safety than they were. But I was like, oh, he's good, 2605 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 9: Patrick Chung, here we go and and he played corner. 2606 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:17,760 Speaker 4: He was good. 2607 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 9: He had some ups and downs, he was good, but 2608 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,640 Speaker 9: this is this is his role, this is who he 2609 01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 9: is as a player. I love him in that spot. 2610 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,720 Speaker 9: But if you're facing a team that has a bunch 2611 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,960 Speaker 9: of big receivers late in the year and your down corners. 2612 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 9: I would rather than move him to the boundary than 2613 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,400 Speaker 9: see five foot eight Marcus Jones struggle with that again. 2614 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 9: So but they get they get hesitant about the stuff. 2615 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,920 Speaker 9: Sometimes Mike go and Win, who we were ninety minutes 2616 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,120 Speaker 9: away from James Farrence starting at left tackle last year 2617 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,000 Speaker 9: against Von Miller, and they would still wouldn't move Mike 2618 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,439 Speaker 9: Go and Win who had to tackle. So they are 2619 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,880 Speaker 9: stubborn about this. I don't know if this is going 2620 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:51,640 Speaker 9: to be one of the cases where they're stubborn, but 2621 01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,559 Speaker 9: if it is, it definitely opens the door as if 2622 01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,080 Speaker 9: they are open playing mccorner, which we really haven't seen 2623 01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 9: at all in camp. Then you start talking about guys 2624 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,320 Speaker 9: like Isaiah Bolden in a mere speed. 2625 01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,160 Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting, like when Christian Gonzalez was drafted, 2626 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,880 Speaker 3: like Jalen Mills's tweet was, y'all I play safety right, right? 2627 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,800 Speaker 3: Like I just thought that was like because I think 2628 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,120 Speaker 3: everyone was probably you know, messaging him like, oh my god, 2629 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:13,479 Speaker 3: like who's gonna be the odd man out? And that's 2630 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 3: why he tweeted, y'all know, I play safety right And 2631 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 3: I think he's done a really great job there he has. 2632 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:19,760 Speaker 5: He's been fine. I mean he's you know, they've been active, 2633 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,599 Speaker 5: they've been blitzing him. I mean he you know, it's 2634 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,800 Speaker 5: just he's so much more involved, and you know it's 2635 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 5: almost like him and Borne have kind of like, yeah, 2636 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,240 Speaker 5: been been safe from the day a little bit. But 2637 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 5: along those lines, I've got a couple, you know, just 2638 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:31,720 Speaker 5: a couple. I don't want to call them awards, but 2639 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,439 Speaker 5: you know, just curious some of these for for you 2640 01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,479 Speaker 5: guys out of training camp, since we're just wrapping it up. 2641 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:37,679 Speaker 5: Biggest surprise? 2642 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,000 Speaker 1: Who was your biggest surprise? 2643 01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,680 Speaker 5: What was the biggest surprise of training camp for you? 2644 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 3: Uh? 2645 01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,920 Speaker 5: Over the last month or so practices like. 2646 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,360 Speaker 3: A diamond in the rough and like you're. 2647 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,920 Speaker 5: Talking, anything that that surprised you about this team, that 2648 01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 5: that you didn't that you maybe didn't quite expect, because 2649 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:54,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I'll give you the opposite. What I wasn't 2650 01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,240 Speaker 5: surprised about was that they didn't have enough offensive. 2651 01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,559 Speaker 9: Yeah he saw coming a mile away. That might be 2652 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,639 Speaker 9: my biggest That doesn't even feel like a fair answer. 2653 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 9: It should have to be besides that biggest surprise, I 2654 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 9: think I would go between one how seamless the secondaries looked. 2655 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 9: I knew they had talent there, but the adjustment in 2656 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,559 Speaker 9: a post Evan mccordy era, I feel like has gone 2657 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,280 Speaker 9: very well. And guys that told us that they were 2658 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 9: always gonna tell us that. I don't think it's just 2659 01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:22,439 Speaker 9: them saying it. I think it's real. I think that 2660 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,720 Speaker 9: they have found a new format in terms of communication, 2661 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,000 Speaker 9: in terms of alignment that works. The other one that 2662 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 9: is kind of a half answer, both Kayshawn Booty and 2663 01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,160 Speaker 9: ter Mario Douglass potentially being guys like I thought maybe 2664 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 9: we'd get one. Like I said earlier, I saw Douglas 2665 01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:39,839 Speaker 9: at the Shrine ball. I thought he had some upside. 2666 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,840 Speaker 9: I thought Booty had some upside. But like it was like, 2667 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,760 Speaker 9: all right, you took a fifty to fifty shot on 2668 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,280 Speaker 9: two guys, so mathematically you should get one to have 2669 01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:48,880 Speaker 9: both of them be in the position they're in. 2670 01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:50,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. 2671 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go born just because I think that coming 2672 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,680 Speaker 3: off a season like he had last year, whether it 2673 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,960 Speaker 3: be off the field stuff, whether it be you know, 2674 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,920 Speaker 3: not being on the field, whatever it is, some people 2675 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,120 Speaker 3: could have taken that season and just completely like given up. 2676 01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,479 Speaker 3: But I think that he kind of like used it 2677 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,639 Speaker 3: as like motivation for this year, and I think that 2678 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,880 Speaker 3: he's off to a great start, especially after stating Juju, 2679 01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people were tweeting like WARN's out of here, 2680 01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:17,559 Speaker 3: like he's completely out of the picture. And I think 2681 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 3: that he's worked really hard to make sure that he's 2682 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,960 Speaker 3: still in the mix. And now hopefully that continues to 2683 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:23,880 Speaker 3: trend in that direction. 2684 01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,120 Speaker 9: I would I would almost add to that. And I'll 2685 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 9: give you another one that I wasn't surprised by. I 2686 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 9: wasn't super shocked. Taekwon Thornton ended up being a non 2687 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,200 Speaker 9: factor after he sat out the spring, and it was like, oh, 2688 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,720 Speaker 9: it's a soft tissue thing. I was kind of like, 2689 01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,240 Speaker 9: all right, this is not the start he needed. And 2690 01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,960 Speaker 9: we've seen it with so many wide receivers here before. 2691 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 9: If you fall behind early, it is so hard to 2692 01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,599 Speaker 9: catch up. And when he was kind of struggling those 2693 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,599 Speaker 9: first few days, it's just based off what we saw 2694 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,600 Speaker 9: in the spring, it almost felt like this it was 2695 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:54,320 Speaker 9: bound to happen. 2696 01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think the best ability is availability. 2697 01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:57,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2698 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,559 Speaker 3: I think with time Montgomery and Taekwon Thornton, both of them, 2699 01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,320 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be their biggest weakness is 2700 01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,200 Speaker 3: their availability, Like both of them right now, it's like, 2701 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 3: what's happening? 2702 01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's hard just with his frame because it's 2703 01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,919 Speaker 5: you know, upper body injuries that seemed to be recurring, 2704 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 5: and you know a lot of times when he's forced 2705 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,840 Speaker 5: into contact it's just you know, he does he can't 2706 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,120 Speaker 5: go up and out muscle guys for the ball, catch point, 2707 01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,360 Speaker 5: any of that stuff. I don't know, he's I mean, 2708 01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,439 Speaker 5: it's gonna be an ind season thing now with him, 2709 01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,840 Speaker 5: So we'll see how it goes. Uh, let's go one 2710 01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,759 Speaker 5: more to the phones. Cody out in Hawaii. Hey, Cody, 2711 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 5: how you doing? 2712 01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 1: Man? 2713 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:28,720 Speaker 12: Hey, how's it going? 2714 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 4: Guys? 2715 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 20: Not a long time listener, but listening to you guys 2716 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,680 Speaker 20: most recently and now I can't get enough of it. 2717 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 1: So nice. 2718 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:37,760 Speaker 20: Thank you guys for making this podcast. 2719 01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:38,400 Speaker 5: Oh thank you. 2720 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:40,360 Speaker 19: Yeah. 2721 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,800 Speaker 20: My question was what do you guys think about the 2722 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,400 Speaker 20: absence of Juan Bedley in this past preseason game. I 2723 01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,640 Speaker 20: do think that had a major factor in why we 2724 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 20: couldn't stop the run in the first half. 2725 01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,640 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean we talked a little bit about this. 2726 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,000 Speaker 5: Thanks Cody. Well, I don't know, Alex, how you said. 2727 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:01,720 Speaker 5: We got into the show on Tuesday and we were 2728 01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 5: kind of talking about the run defense, and I was 2729 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,280 Speaker 5: and I said something like, you know, I got one 2730 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 5: guy in my crosshairs, and then Paul was kind of like, 2731 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,760 Speaker 5: you know, there's one guy that that's really bugging me. 2732 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,519 Speaker 5: And then Evan's like, yeah, there's one guy, and I'm like, 2733 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,400 Speaker 5: let's all say it at once. Mac Wilson. Look, I 2734 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,320 Speaker 5: think it's a couple of things. I think, first of all, 2735 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,760 Speaker 5: just Devon Gotshaw and are they excited to go into 2736 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 5: Green Bay week two of the preseason and give it 2737 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,280 Speaker 5: there all and run Probably not, like you know, like 2738 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,040 Speaker 5: like I heard Teddy j On on your show waxing 2739 01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 5: about that, and I'm like, ted if I had come 2740 01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:31,640 Speaker 5: up to as a reporter in two thousand and four 2741 01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:33,599 Speaker 5: and said, Hey, what's up with the run defense week 2742 01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,320 Speaker 5: to a preseason, you would have like probably been like 2743 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 5: laugh me off and been like, don't worry about it. 2744 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,600 Speaker 5: We got this, So I'm not worried about that. I 2745 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,200 Speaker 5: do think Bentley's a big part of it, and I 2746 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,120 Speaker 5: and I also just think that that mac Wilson against 2747 01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,400 Speaker 5: the run is ineffective. As an ineffective player, and he 2748 01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:47,479 Speaker 5: can't really play rundowns. 2749 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,240 Speaker 9: It's not his game. It's not his game. He's here 2750 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 9: to back up Marte Mapu. 2751 01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:51,240 Speaker 1: That is what I think. 2752 01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,679 Speaker 9: That's that's what we said, like in that role, right, Look, 2753 01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,920 Speaker 9: not having Bentley hurts. But at the same time, you 2754 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:02,479 Speaker 9: saw Devon getting moved, you saw Carl Davis getting moved, 2755 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,920 Speaker 9: and Jewan Bentley standing behind them. Shouldn't make any difference 2756 01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 9: in them getting moved or not. This is a good 2757 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,120 Speaker 9: defense against the run. Last year they ranked fourth in 2758 01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,240 Speaker 9: the league and opposing yards for carry. They were especially 2759 01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,720 Speaker 9: good against you know, traditional run plays, taking out some 2760 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,519 Speaker 9: of that quarterback stuff. So and they brought just about 2761 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,040 Speaker 9: everybody back, and Devin mccordy wasn't really a run game player. 2762 01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,080 Speaker 9: So I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh they're screwed. 2763 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,200 Speaker 9: Here we go whole season not stopping a run. But 2764 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,200 Speaker 9: like I would like to see them come out Friday 2765 01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,720 Speaker 9: night and kind of put the just just put it 2766 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,080 Speaker 9: to bed. Yeah, just put on tape. 2767 01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:30,559 Speaker 1: Today. 2768 01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,600 Speaker 9: It was a rough game and that's what it was, 2769 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 9: and we're back. 2770 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if like that will even be a focus 2771 01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,000 Speaker 3: on Friday. I'm wondering like, are we gonna see Dio, 2772 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Like are they gonna play him? 2773 01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 5: Do you think? I don't know, I don't know what 2774 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:41,879 Speaker 5: the Titans. 2775 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,160 Speaker 3: Are or they're just gonna run the ball and be like, oh, 2776 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:43,799 Speaker 3: let's not put. 2777 01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,519 Speaker 9: It well if they run the ball Stark, Yeah, I mean. 2778 01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:47,040 Speaker 3: We didn't have to. 2779 01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:48,040 Speaker 9: There's a good test. 2780 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:50,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean it was hard not to 2781 01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,200 Speaker 5: like take a little read, a little bit into it 2782 01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,040 Speaker 5: when they signed McCall briefly, you know, like, oh, yeah, 2783 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,080 Speaker 5: it's not an overaction to you know, but I think 2784 01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm still okay with Carl Davis. I 2785 01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,920 Speaker 5: think he's fine for that role. And you got a 2786 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,439 Speaker 5: big nose tackle that's a you know, big mean dude. 2787 01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I'm not I'm not too concerned 2788 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 5: about that. But I guess just one more question for 2789 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,120 Speaker 5: you guys, like, like, what is your biggest concern about 2790 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:11,680 Speaker 5: this team going into this season right. 2791 01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 3: Off? Because it's like it's like we really can't expect 2792 01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,519 Speaker 3: that much out of mac if he has no time 2793 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,200 Speaker 3: to throw the ball, because then what's are we just 2794 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 3: gonna run the ball every play because he can't throw it? Like, 2795 01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,200 Speaker 3: is this gonna look like Georgia Tech's offense. 2796 01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 9: But what are we gonna do If you can't get 2797 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:29,639 Speaker 9: a block? 2798 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:30,439 Speaker 4: None of it matters. 2799 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,880 Speaker 9: That's just the reality of it. And their starting group 2800 01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,200 Speaker 9: is fine. The depth significantly drops off after their top four. 2801 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 9: I've said this since, uh since free agency when they 2802 01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,480 Speaker 9: didn't sign one of those top tackles. If anything undoes 2803 01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,080 Speaker 9: this offense this year, it's not gonna be the coaching. 2804 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 9: That excuse is gone. It's not gonna be the quarterback. 2805 01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,200 Speaker 9: I know people want to hate on Mac. Mac will 2806 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:52,960 Speaker 9: be fine. I don't know how much more than fine 2807 01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,480 Speaker 9: he'll be, but he'll at least be fine. The wide receiver, 2808 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 9: same thing. They're good enough. They're not you know, they're 2809 01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,480 Speaker 9: not world beaters. This isn't the Bengals, but they're fine 2810 01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:04,480 Speaker 9: that neutral offense. If anything undoes this offense, it's the 2811 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 9: offensive line and specifically the tackles because they the the 2812 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 9: level of NFL talent. 2813 01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,520 Speaker 5: There is worry, especially the edges in the AFC East 2814 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,000 Speaker 5: or just yeah. 2815 01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean I would have loved to get and not 2816 01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,879 Speaker 3: just because he's a Notre Dame guy, but Mike McGlinchey 2817 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:18,840 Speaker 3: he was available. 2818 01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, that that that was one of my guys. That 2819 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 9: was one of my guys. 2820 01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:24,480 Speaker 3: He would have been expensive, but I think per our 2821 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:28,560 Speaker 3: conversation earlier, like that's not any quate offensive lineman, Like 2822 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 3: that's like a good offense. 2823 01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,400 Speaker 9: And then that's a guy not just a good offensive lineman, 2824 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:32,600 Speaker 9: a guy that fit the scheme. 2825 01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 4: Well, he's great. 2826 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 9: Joe Alt. Next year we can talk about Joalt. No 2827 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,000 Speaker 9: geez Notre Dame. He's a first round tackle from Notre Dame. 2828 01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 9: We will talk plenty of about write. 2829 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 3: A great picture of myself next to Mike McGlinchey when 2830 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,120 Speaker 3: he was at Notre Dame, Like I like an ant Is. 2831 01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 9: It like the Mike Grease Trent Brown picture? Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, 2832 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,320 Speaker 9: that's one of my favorite pictures. 2833 01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:58,920 Speaker 3: That might have been standing on a box and it didn't. 2834 01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,840 Speaker 5: The Giant Human We got like four minutes left, but Alex, 2835 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 5: I got ask you a little bit about Bruce Springsteen. 2836 01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,360 Speaker 5: He's coming here to let you're going to two shows. 2837 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,960 Speaker 5: I'm going I took a little time I wrote down 2838 01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:09,080 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to say these are the all 2839 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,320 Speaker 5: time best Bruce songs, but I just put Deuce's like 2840 01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,960 Speaker 5: personal favorite that they have some meaning to me, So 2841 01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 5: I'll let you think of yours as I rattle off 2842 01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 5: my my six that I have here. But these are 2843 01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,000 Speaker 5: just my favorites to marry Bruce Springsteen fans, I. 2844 01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,120 Speaker 3: Am not on this contra. 2845 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:23,480 Speaker 5: You know some of them though, right. 2846 01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,480 Speaker 3: I heard the ones in practice that that was. 2847 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,640 Speaker 9: That was freaky because it was Bruce Springsteen and Chris Stapleton, 2848 01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:31,760 Speaker 9: which are the two concerts I'm going to this summer, 2849 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 9: and I like, I tweeted out yesterday and people were like, 2850 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:35,920 Speaker 9: you gotta be kidding. 2851 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,080 Speaker 3: I feel like Bruce for him, you said, it sounds 2852 01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:40,920 Speaker 3: like Swifty for everybody else. 2853 01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,440 Speaker 9: So there is this, really Bruce, there is this really 2854 01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:49,080 Speaker 9: good thing that was written like seven or eight months ago. 2855 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,160 Speaker 9: I forget who wrote it, but basically, like the the 2856 01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 9: way fans react to the artist that Taylor Swift is 2857 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,560 Speaker 9: the next generations Bruce Springsteen within like the storytelling and 2858 01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,520 Speaker 9: the way the songs are perceived and the way the 2859 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 9: fans are is very interesting to read and a lot 2860 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:05,960 Speaker 9: of I'm not a huge Sailor Swift fan, like I 2861 01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,200 Speaker 9: appreciate her, but like there is a lot of overlap 2862 01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,400 Speaker 9: in the fans and it is kind of there is 2863 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 9: a lot of truth to it, all right. 2864 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,600 Speaker 5: I drove to New Jersey. I saw Bruce Springsteen in 2865 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,080 Speaker 5: New Jersey. 2866 01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:14,880 Speaker 4: That's what you see. 2867 01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:15,680 Speaker 5: That's where you gotta see. 2868 01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:17,640 Speaker 9: Now we're like you have in the past, no I write. 2869 01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,080 Speaker 5: I mean it was in the year nineteen ninety nine. 2870 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,800 Speaker 9: Okay. Did you see him at at like Metaal Layers 2871 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:23,280 Speaker 9: at the. 2872 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,240 Speaker 5: Stone Continental Airlines Arena. Okay, he goes with the Devils 2873 01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,520 Speaker 5: the Devil's play. Yeah, But these are my songs I'm 2874 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,840 Speaker 5: gonna throw out there, going from from kind of kind 2875 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 5: of lowest to highest. But Tunnel of Love's first one 2876 01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,640 Speaker 5: had the tape I Forget, which the album MAT's off of. 2877 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 5: But Tunnel of Love used to listen to that as 2878 01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,080 Speaker 5: a kid really liked it my hometown. I mean, that's 2879 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:45,160 Speaker 5: a classic love it. I'm going down Special One College 2880 01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,120 Speaker 5: used to play at parties a lot love. I'm going 2881 01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:50,200 Speaker 5: down Atlantic City and I gotta go with the live 2882 01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:53,000 Speaker 5: version live her favorite. Yeah, live version is great for me. 2883 01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,320 Speaker 5: That song was the song I was like kind of 2884 01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,760 Speaker 5: into that live album when I was moving to California. 2885 01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,680 Speaker 5: So it's like one of those albums like just always 2886 01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 5: And then the top two Thundero, Born to Run, the 2887 01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,680 Speaker 5: two classics. Everybody loves them, but those songs. 2888 01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:08,760 Speaker 4: I just feel like, are You're not going No, I don't. 2889 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,280 Speaker 5: Love them that much. I mean it's I've seen them. 2890 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. I got stuff to do, I would say. 2891 01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,520 Speaker 9: I mean because I I like, I got into Bruce 2892 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,240 Speaker 9: because my dad's a big Bruce fan. So that's just 2893 01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:18,840 Speaker 9: like part of the reason I enjoyed so much as 2894 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,280 Speaker 9: I grew up listening to it a lot with him. 2895 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,000 Speaker 9: Jungle Lands the song that got me into Bruce because 2896 01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 9: I played saxophone in middle school and it was like 2897 01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:28,880 Speaker 9: dipped to my dad's Oh the Big Man, and you know, 2898 01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,760 Speaker 9: listen to that that uh Clarence yea, that that chorus, 2899 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,280 Speaker 9: So that one's up there, you know, Born to Run 2900 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,200 Speaker 9: in thunder Road as well, or. 2901 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:36,840 Speaker 4: Up there for me. 2902 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,440 Speaker 9: Some deeper cut songs, I don't know if they're deep cuts, 2903 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,400 Speaker 9: but like more so, I I really like Darkness on 2904 01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:48,240 Speaker 9: the Edge of Town. Yeah, I really like growing up. 2905 01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 5: I think that they said sit down and I stood 2906 01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:53,640 Speaker 5: up right. 2907 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:54,040 Speaker 1: That's it. 2908 01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:58,560 Speaker 9: That's a fun I remember that came on Shuffle when 2909 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:01,160 Speaker 9: I was like leaving my last call class and that. 2910 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,200 Speaker 3: Hit why that kind of deep like on shuffle leading. 2911 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,720 Speaker 9: Because because the song is about like reluxant, reluctance to 2912 01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,280 Speaker 9: become an adult. So it's just like in that moment 2913 01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,640 Speaker 9: it was I was like, this is kind of ridiculous 2914 01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:13,560 Speaker 9: that this song just came on. 2915 01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:15,800 Speaker 5: You got to have that, though, Smara. That's like one 2916 01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:17,720 Speaker 5: of my favorite things is like you hear a song 2917 01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,040 Speaker 5: and and sometimes it's a song you've heard a hundred times, 2918 01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,800 Speaker 5: but you hear it in a new way at like 2919 01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:23,560 Speaker 5: at the right point in your life, and it just 2920 01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:27,200 Speaker 5: hits different for you. Yeah, like when comes on at 2921 01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,800 Speaker 5: the right moment, Yeah, it's gonna be like Anna like 2922 01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,200 Speaker 5: acoustic and her Sandman version. It's like, I have a 2923 01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:33,000 Speaker 5: new perspective now. 2924 01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,840 Speaker 3: Remix Also your homework, Alex, I need a video like 2925 01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,160 Speaker 3: that one that has been posted of Mike Reese when 2926 01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:41,400 Speaker 3: he was at Wasn't he at a concert? 2927 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,160 Speaker 9: Oh yeah? It's yeah, but that was like a heavy 2928 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:48,160 Speaker 9: metal concert. That's completely different. I'm not gonna be that 2929 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,480 Speaker 9: energetic time. I'm just gonna be relaxed. And then I 2930 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,400 Speaker 9: think that, uh, why am I blanking on the name 2931 01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:56,800 Speaker 9: of the song the Blinded by the Light? Blinded By 2932 01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 9: The Light is one of the like just a fun 2933 01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,080 Speaker 9: sing along song. So I like when he cover stuff too. 2934 02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:02,400 Speaker 5: I have because of the Night. 2935 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:05,120 Speaker 9: That's because the Knight's a good one. Adam Rae's the 2936 02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:09,120 Speaker 9: King raised. My joke is always just I like songs 2937 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,040 Speaker 9: about old cars and girls whose names ended why, and 2938 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:16,080 Speaker 9: that's that's my catalog. But he does some good covers too, 2939 02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:18,160 Speaker 9: like Trapped is good. His version of Trapped is good. 2940 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:19,880 Speaker 9: And I would say, as somebody who's also a huge 2941 02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:23,480 Speaker 9: fan of Goodfellas, he has a live cover of and 2942 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:25,640 Speaker 9: Then She Kissed Me, which is the song when they're 2943 02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:28,400 Speaker 9: going through the back entrance to the restaurant and Goodfellas, 2944 02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,879 Speaker 9: which is just like for me, a neat little crossover 2945 02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,000 Speaker 9: because one of my favorite movies, one of my favorite artists. 2946 02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,960 Speaker 9: That's like the song from that movie That or Cream. 2947 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, there you have it, guys. That's gonna do 2948 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,600 Speaker 5: it for this very special edition Patriots un Filter, be 2949 02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:45,920 Speaker 5: sure to tune in. Patriots pregame show will be at 2950 02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:50,160 Speaker 5: I believe five five on Friday as we get ready 2951 02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,400 Speaker 5: for the Tennessee Titans. We're gonna wrap up this preseason 2952 02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:53,920 Speaker 5: and ouch, anything you got pitch? What are you where 2953 02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,800 Speaker 5: you gonna be? You got a pregame post game shows? 2954 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:57,080 Speaker 5: What are you on the radio next? 2955 02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:00,960 Speaker 9: I'll be on Friday ten to two. I'm filling on 2956 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,480 Speaker 9: Zolak and Birchrain with Joe Murray. So pre pregame show. 2957 02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:03,960 Speaker 5: There you go. 2958 02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,200 Speaker 9: No, not Friday, Yeah, Friday, whatever day the game is Friday, 2959 02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 9: real radio there. 2960 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,560 Speaker 5: And of course next week we'll be back catch twenty 2961 02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:13,280 Speaker 5: two and of course Patriots Unfiltered we'll catch you next week. 2962 02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, 2963 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,440 Speaker 2: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 2964 02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,600 Speaker 2: and review us. 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