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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it straight up. I want them to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, I want them to keep don't. I want

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Speaker 2: them to keep doing there.

439
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Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is, Sonny, we gotta have tough

440
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Speaker 1: talk with them, not like at yesterday. If you because

441
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Speaker 1: tell me the Democrat that elevated me, I went against

442
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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. I literally you saw this, Sonny. I filed

443
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Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Bernie Sanders, No, no, so, no Democrat,

444
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Speaker 1: no progressive, nobody.

445
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 2: I can count on two or three hands.

446
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Speaker 1: Literally one hand, the people that may elevate my voice.

447
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Speaker 2: But that took fifteen years of work.

448
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Speaker 1: So if people don't have fifteen years of work because

449
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Speaker 1: they're waiting on somebody elevating, then baby, it ain't forty.

450
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm just getting it to you real.

451
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Speaker 5: But these people are doing the work, but people asking,

452
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Speaker 5: but they're not asked.

453
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Speaker 2: They're not asking for their voices to be elevated.

454
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Speaker 5: But my point is when we put ourselves in a

455
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Speaker 5: position to make sure we are elevating those voices. So

456
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Speaker 5: it's not contradictory anything that you and I are saying,

457
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Speaker 5: but specifically when it comes specifically when it comes to

458
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Speaker 5: the right, you know what I'm saying, like you are

459
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Speaker 5: on the left.

460
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Speaker 2: But the reason why I'm.

461
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Speaker 5: Saying, you know, but no, on the right, you don't

462
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Speaker 5: have an urban league.

463
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Speaker 1: On the right, you don't have but but but but

464
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Speaker 1: hold on, but wait though, Sonny, because I don't those

465
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Speaker 1: groups that I just mentioned, I criticize all of those groups.

466
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Speaker 2: Those are not groups that I that I lean on

467
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Speaker 2: that I say.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna urban, They're gonna When I talked about

469
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Speaker 1: the Urban League, I'm talking about doctor McCarthy at the

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Speaker 1: local level in Orlando, who I knew, who actually is

471
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Speaker 1: a conservative by the way. He was he's a conservative,

472
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Speaker 1: by the way. He was the president of the Urban League,

473
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Speaker 1: and he was trying to bring economic development to the

474
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Speaker 1: Urban League and show how a nonprofit doesn't have to

475
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Speaker 1: be a poor institution. So, just for clarity on that story,

476
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the National Urban League.

477
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about I got my ass up on the.

478
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Speaker 1: Local level and connected McCarthy, who is a staunch conservative

479
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Speaker 1: by the way, and he said, tes On, how can

480
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Speaker 1: you and I work together? And I said, I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 1: help you bring the volunteers together. Because the National Convention

482
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Speaker 1: was coming to Orlando and Barack Obama he was a

483
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Speaker 1: senator at the time, and John McCain. It was the

484
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Speaker 1: first time they were on the stage, and they couldn't

485
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Speaker 1: find anybody to volunteer for doctor McCarthy. You know why

486
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Speaker 1: they couldn't find anybody volunteer at doctor McCarthy's sonny, because

487
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Speaker 1: he was a conservative. So I went to the left,

488
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Speaker 1: the churches and all the people who did not like

489
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Speaker 1: Dr McCarthy and I said, trust me, trust that I'm

490
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Speaker 1: going to do right by these people.

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Speaker 2: And I did that.

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Speaker 1: I have a story for every single situation, and I

493
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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and I want you guys to know,

494
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Speaker 1: Sunny and I am very passionate, and we talk passionate.

495
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Speaker 1: We're not disagreeed. I'm telling the organizers that cannot be

496
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Speaker 1: distracted by who is not doing what, continue to do

497
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Speaker 1: the fucking work. Yes, if it's not meant for somebody

498
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Speaker 1: to hear your voice on a national level, and that's

499
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Speaker 1: what you're waiting here for, then you're in it for

500
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Speaker 1: the wrong reason. If somebody's not here, I criticize people

501
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Speaker 1: like this. I'm not criticized, but challenge them all the time.

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Speaker 2: Do the work.

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Speaker 1: It's a coincidence when somebody finds out what I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving for this because I want somebody to

505
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Speaker 1: hear me. Charlemagne talked about go back and listen to

506
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Speaker 1: what Charlemagne talked six years ago about people that went

507
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Speaker 1: on Fox News. He was very much in line with

508
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Speaker 1: people Win who said, if you go on Fox News,

509
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Speaker 1: you're a betrayal to black people. He didn't say this verbatim,

510
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Speaker 1: but he was listening to all of the Democrats that

511
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Speaker 1: told him that if you go on Fox News, you

512
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Speaker 1: are betraying black people. My relationship with Charlemagne didn't start yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It started in conversations over the years. How did I

514
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Speaker 1: get the conversation busting my ass? Be Nina turn up

515
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Speaker 1: working on the campaign when Charlemagne was the host for

516
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Speaker 1: Bernie Samders. The people on the team Sonny kept me,

517
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Speaker 1: did not want me to meet Charlemagne and Killer Mike.

518
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Speaker 1: They did everything to make sure we did not meet.

519
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Speaker 1: So this is why I can't get into where they

520
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Speaker 1: just keep you away.

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Speaker 2: They did it to me. You've seen them do it.

522
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me finish this story because I

523
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: got to give this story of people.

524
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Speaker 2: To know how to move. I'm telling you how to move.

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Speaker 1: When she when Nina Turner went to the breakfast, I said,

526
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Speaker 1: let me make sure I go with you. I told Schamann,

527
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna have somebody on to talk about, how

528
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: why I go to Fox News and why that is

529
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Speaker 1: why that's important to go over the other space. Why

530
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna have me on, you know, son of

531
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Speaker 1: you and I turb at that time when you're gonna

532
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Speaker 1: have me on so I can show you that rappers

533
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: are actually more conservative than you think. When you gonna

534
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Speaker 1: have me on to time to have the conversation to

535
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Speaker 1: talk about how they don't want to pay taxes, how

536
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Speaker 1: they believe in a second amendment, how they believe it.

537
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Speaker 1: When you're gonna have me on, charge may totally ignored

538
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Speaker 1: me for years every week, Where are you gonna do that.

539
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Speaker 2: Space to get distracted?

540
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Speaker 1: And I gotta get this to the organized so they

541
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Speaker 1: can know real receipts come with this, because people always say,

542
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Speaker 1: all it's easy for you to say because you got elevator.

543
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Speaker 2: No, this took work. This took four or five years.

544
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Speaker 1: It was a time when I would text him I

545
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Speaker 1: wouldn't get a response at all. Then it went to

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Speaker 1: get a response maybe two months. Then it went from

547
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Speaker 1: maybe he may respond back every two or three weeks.

548
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Speaker 1: Then it went from once a week, and then it

549
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Speaker 1: went from daily ten twenty times a day. If people

550
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Speaker 1: don't have the consistency to do the work, the consistency

551
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: to do all the shit that everybody say they ain't

552
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna do, and what I ain't got time to do,

553
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Speaker 1: and what I will not be and all of it,

554
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: and they don't want to roll up their sleeze and

555
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Speaker 1: they don't want to do the volunteer work and they

556
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Speaker 1: don't want to. I ain't gonna caiss they asked. I'm

557
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: not gonna keep a relationship when they do all of that.

558
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: You miss the opportunity. And but but I appreciate the

559
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Speaker 1: opportunity being missed because it tells me they're INNY for

560
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: the wrong reason.

561
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Speaker 2: It work if you are conservative and you believe in

562
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Speaker 2: what you believe in.

563
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Speaker 1: If you are a democratic, if you believe in what

564
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Speaker 1: you're believing, it's not about elevating and wanting everybody to

565
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: hear you. You do what you're supposed to do. So

566
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Speaker 1: that is why when it's getting done, you can say

567
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: job well done. So that's a moment.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this is what I'm specifically talking about.

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Speaker 2: On the right. Right, these people are doing the work right.

570
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Speaker 5: They're not asking to be elevated. So again we're not

571
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Speaker 5: disagreeing on this, They're not asking to be elevated. The

572
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 5: problem is that they have to combat what the other

573
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Speaker 5: people are saved.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not black or Juneteenth, is you know what

575
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like that kind of narrative that comes now

576
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: they have to like to clarify why even ask the question, okay.

577
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: Because the people hold on one second because and this

578
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 5: is and this is and this is for me.

579
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Speaker 2: What I have been doing specifically.

580
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Speaker 5: For the last maybe three years is counseling for a

581
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Speaker 5: lot of these black conservatives that are on the ground

582
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Speaker 5: that are doing the work right, because what they have

583
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 5: to constantly come up against is any kind anytime they

584
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Speaker 5: have real ideas or real solutions for problems that are

585
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: that that come up that are being faced, they have

586
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Speaker 5: to go back to stupid ass conversations like do you

587
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Speaker 5: really have to make it black centric or does it

588
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: really have like dumb ass ship.

589
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Speaker 1: But that's the part of the ways, that's the part

590
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Speaker 1: of it I have to combat, and that's part of it.

591
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Speaker 2: That's it is. It is truly a part of it.

592
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Speaker 5: And that's why I said the reason for having people

593
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Speaker 5: like you and I in positions is that we can

594
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 5: look and we can understand what they're going through and

595
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 5: still tell them. Because I tell every single one of them,

596
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 5: what the fuck you thought this was easy?

597
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: You thought it was gonna be a cake walk. You

598
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: thought you walk or run up into this shit.

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Speaker 5: And matter of fact, every time I do a space

600
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Speaker 5: on here, I preface that space the start of that space,

601
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 5: like for you that are coming in, I am going

602
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 5: to tell you what the fuck you get ready to

603
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Speaker 5: walk into. So you know, not so you are scared,

604
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Speaker 5: not so you are dissuaged from doing it. So you

605
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: like not so you have fear, just so you are

606
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Speaker 5: armed so when you go in, you are able to

607
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 5: fight this shit in a way that is effective and efficient.

608
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Speaker 2: So it is definitely not It.

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Speaker 5: Is definitely a kick in the ass to say the

610
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: work still has to be done right, the duties still

611
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Speaker 5: have to be met. All of those things we're talking about,

612
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: we're pushing, we're putting our heart, our soul, our passion

613
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: into those things must fucking continue. And it's not gonna

614
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: be easy that shit. That shit is hard, and it

615
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 5: don't happen overnight. It really takes work. But that doesn't

616
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Speaker 5: But that also having people in positions to give them

617
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Speaker 5: that advice, to give them those talks, and to also

618
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: be like, this is the work that they are doing,

619
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Speaker 5: and we need to make sure those of us who

620
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 5: are in this circle that are doing this work are

621
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Speaker 5: making sure we are.

622
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Speaker 2: Elevating each other.

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Speaker 5: So like again, it's not anything that you and I

624
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 5: are disagreeing about, but I am saying that there is

625
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Speaker 5: a specific fucked up element on the right that people

626
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Speaker 5: do have.

627
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: To deal with right and making sure people.

628
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Speaker 1: Are away in a wayfial right.

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Speaker 2: But it's also on the left though, Sonny, and it's

630
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Speaker 2: not just all that. But I don't know nothing about that.

631
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Speaker 1: That's why that's why you and I have always got along,

632
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Speaker 1: because I'm telling you that this also on the left.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying it is a element that is also

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Speaker 1: messed up on the left. You don't see left people

635
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Speaker 1: uplifting me. In fact, going on Fox News, it totally

636
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Speaker 1: ostracized me. I'm not gonna say the host's name, but

637
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: mate hosts at MSNBC and seeing in told me, do

638
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: not do this. You will get nowhere in your career.

639
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: So I just always talked about what I because this

640
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: ain't a career for me. This is a calling. So

641
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: people have to examine this. This a calling is of

642
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: the career. I'm gonna keep talking about what I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about until they lay my body down.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep fighting a good fighting until they lay

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Speaker 1: my body down per and I get it from both sides.

647
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: I get it from the Democrat side. I get it

648
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Speaker 2: from the.

649
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Speaker 1: Republican side, Republicans, conservatives, whatever you gonna call them.

650
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Speaker 2: They're trashing me right now in real time.

651
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, a month ago when I interviewed Mary

652
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Speaker 1: Anne Williams, and they were trashing me in real time.

653
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Justin here's a Democrat. Oh man, he was everybody's hero.

654
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: On the left, and I challenged him. They challenged me

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Speaker 1: in real time. So I get it on every side.

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Speaker 1: So I just tell people, you just gonna have to

657
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Speaker 1: keep doing the work. But I know one thing for

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Speaker 1: show when it comes to my political stopping ground, take

659
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Speaker 1: none of them.

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Speaker 2: See me.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see how many bodies you can get

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Speaker 1: in the room. See when you want to compete with me,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be competing with who's amplified and who

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Speaker 1: got the most tweets, and who got the most likes

665
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Speaker 1: and who got the most of this. Challenge me to

666
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Speaker 1: see who can fill up a gymnasium the fastest. That's

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Speaker 1: where my arguments. I'm gonna beat you every time. If not,

668
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Speaker 1: we're gonna come out. Even Stephen challenge me and then

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Speaker 1: I want to see how many people in the room.

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Speaker 1: We just did this in September with my Push the

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Speaker 1: Line training, three hundred people that came all over the country.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to give them twenty five thousand shut

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Speaker 1: out to BB for doing it, shut out then for

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Speaker 1: doing it. I didn't have to give them a dollar.

675
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Speaker 1: They came all over the country to sit in that

676
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Speaker 1: class and figure out how to be a candidate, how

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Speaker 1: to be an operator, how to be an organizer.

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Speaker 2: Me one black woman, with the help of folks sharing

679
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Speaker 2: it on their Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to minimize that, but I set up

681
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Speaker 1: and text everybody that was in their room.

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Speaker 2: Nahimas here, he was one of the people that came

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Speaker 2: to the training.

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Speaker 1: I text every last one of them ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: times at best myself myself. And it was conservatives in

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Speaker 1: the room, Black conservatives in the room. It was black

687
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Speaker 1: liberals in the room. It was black far left in

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Speaker 1: the room. It was reparationists in the room, it was

689
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Speaker 1: progressives in the room. It was three hundred people from everywhere,

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Speaker 1: all over the country in the room. And even now

691
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Speaker 1: people get mad because I shout out, Nahim oh, you

692
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Speaker 1: over there with Nahim. People get mad because Tariq asked

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Speaker 1: me to come speak at the rally. I have to

694
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Speaker 1: do deal with inter fighting all the time. They're mad

695
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Speaker 1: because I show love to Nahim. Well, I met him

696
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Speaker 1: in person. He's not just an avatar to me. He's

697
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Speaker 1: a real person that came to my training and sat

698
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Speaker 1: there and took their note pad out on how to

699
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Speaker 1: do this game. So when it comes down, it's gonna

700
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Speaker 1: come down to the work with me, and then I

701
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Speaker 1: connect with those relationships and we don't.

702
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Speaker 2: I don't let them go.

703
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change my relationship just because somebody else

704
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Speaker 1: don't like it. I get it, man, Sonny, by me

705
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Speaker 1: getting up and speaking that they're rather than people made

706
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Speaker 1: this records about me, rap records, lame records. By the way,

707
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Speaker 1: I'm Sonny and our poets just in case y'all don't know,

708
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Speaker 1: we can't get on this mike. But they made rap

709
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Speaker 1: records about me, They talked about me, they made youtubes

710
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: about this. Ain't the first time somebody made youtubes and

711
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Speaker 1: wrap so they do this all the time. This is

712
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Speaker 1: a part of it. It's a part of it, and

713
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I get it from every single side. Every side seriously

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Speaker 1: every side, Denise, you wanted to clarify with why you

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Speaker 1: asked the question, No, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: So while there was such richness there, so I didn't

717
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Speaker 4: ask the question because I am trying to be amplified.

718
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Speaker 4: I asked the question because the reality is that political

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Speaker 4: messaging and the common narrative right impact.

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Speaker 2: Political will.

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Speaker 4: Because most people don't actually critically think about the information

722
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Speaker 4: and assess it and validate it and fact check it.

723
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Speaker 4: They digest what most people say and they give credibility

724
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Speaker 4: to that. And just to amplify the idea that I'm

725
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: not trying to be heard, I started out with the

726
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Speaker 4: Republican Party doing Obama's administration, and part of the reason

727
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Speaker 4: they were attractive to attracted to me and asked me

728
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Speaker 4: to be a delegate here in the Saint Louis area

729
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Speaker 4: is because I was calling them on their shit in

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Speaker 4: the rooms where it was talking about the good old

731
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Speaker 4: days and back when we was able to, you know,

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Speaker 4: decide for ourselves and state rights and all that kind

733
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Speaker 4: of stuff. It was ironic to me. But also part

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Speaker 4: of the reason that I declined the offer is because

735
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Speaker 4: I started to question, you know, what does it mean

736
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Speaker 4: to be a conservative because I think we're coming from

737
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Speaker 4: this at different places. I maybe should have persisted, but

738
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Speaker 4: the bigotry that I was getting in my inbox about

739
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: Barack Obama really turned me off. I got into this

740
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Speaker 4: work because I started writing articles and I started talking

741
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Speaker 4: in my local area and being the same deniche.

742
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Speaker 3: That I am right now.

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Speaker 4: I was probably a little quieter then because a lot

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Speaker 4: of shit has been put on my plate since then

745
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Speaker 4: and now, so it amplifies my I don't give a

746
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Speaker 4: fuck about how you feel about what I say. But

747
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Speaker 4: I started writing articles. I started writing on Daily cause

748
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Speaker 4: I started when Michael Brown was murdered and some other

749
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Speaker 4: things had happened. I started writing on LinkedIn articles that

750
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Speaker 4: didn't get addressed because everybody on LinkedIn trying to get

751
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Speaker 4: a job. They're not trying to speak the words that

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Speaker 4: need to be spoken. People didn't always interact with what

753
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Speaker 4: I said, but people with DM me in DM me

754
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Speaker 4: and tell me they read it, or my friends would

755
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Speaker 4: be like, that's a crazy ass message.

756
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Speaker 2: It needs to be stated.

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Speaker 4: So I wrote the things that I wrote because the

758
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Speaker 4: words needed to be in the room and people needed

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Speaker 4: to chew on it, and the questions that I was posing.

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Speaker 4: I felt like needed to be posed because the common

761
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Speaker 4: narrative wasn't working for me and it wasn't working for

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Speaker 4: my people. So I didn't start out this work at

763
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Speaker 4: all trying to be noticed. I started this work to

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Speaker 4: change means the common narrative because the way they was

765
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Speaker 4: talking about our country and our people was just not

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Speaker 4: working for me. So ultimately, my writing and shouting into

767
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Speaker 4: the wind got noticed because I started getting invited to

768
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Speaker 4: do things, and I started making relationships with people who said,

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Speaker 4: you have an important voice and it needs to be heard.

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Speaker 2: So can I ask you this? Can I ask you this?

771
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Speaker 1: You started out to change the narrative. I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: if you never change the narrative, are you going to

773
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Speaker 1: keep talking?

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Speaker 4: But see, the narrative has already been changed.

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Speaker 1: Oh let me just absolutely, let me ask you keep talking,

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Speaker 1: because that's what that's that's all it is. The narrative

777
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: haven't been changed overall, because that's what Sonny's saying. The

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Speaker 1: narrative have been changed. And my only point is if

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Speaker 1: it never changes, if it never changes, will you keep talking?

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Speaker 1: Your only job is to keep talking? And at point

781
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Speaker 1: is because that's the only point, because if we zoned

782
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Speaker 1: in on, But I want to change the narrative, are

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Speaker 1: I My goal is to get people to see this

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Speaker 1: other way. What I'm trying to say is, you're it's

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Speaker 1: never going to be one hundred percent people that we

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Speaker 1: and you know that mind, and so our job is

787
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Speaker 1: not to change mine. It's people right here in the

788
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: comments now talking about us now in this three and

789
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Speaker 1: they're begging for our attention, and I could care less

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Speaker 1: because we're on the microphone.

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Speaker 2: We're winning. See, I have to I have to go

792
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Speaker 2: because I'm get ready to start a space.

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Speaker 5: But these conversations are pivotal for everything we do going forward.

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Speaker 5: And shout out to you Says for always making sure

795
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Speaker 5: they are at the top of your list and always

796
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Speaker 5: including us in them.

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Speaker 2: When we shine light on each other, we all win.

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Speaker 2: So constantly. Love you, boss lady.

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Speaker 1: Keep doing what you do, Honey, you too, And I'll

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Speaker 1: rap because I know I hate having spaces at the

801
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Speaker 1: same time other people do, especially when we cross pollinate folks.

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Speaker 1: So I know people will want to join over the

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Speaker 1: Sunnys as well, But I just want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of end on destinies.

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Speaker 2: All you got to do is keep talking, you know,

806
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: when you say the narrative has been changed.

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Speaker 1: It's been changed, yes, I mean, but overall it hasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's why we're saying, you know, how do we change

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Speaker 1: the narrator? How do we get black people on board?

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Speaker 1: That's what Sonny saying. Most people are frustrated because they

811
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Speaker 1: keep looking for the I'm not saying you, I'm just

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Speaker 1: speaking in general. They keep looking for the finality, you know,

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: for it to be final, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And for me, you know, when you ask me the question,

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Speaker 1: how do you do it? I am not trying to

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Speaker 1: change I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. IFIDI said

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Speaker 1: it on the thing and say, hey, you know what,

818
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Speaker 1: if you vote for me, you do, you do? You don't,

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Speaker 1: You don't. Guess what I feel the same way. You

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Speaker 1: either heard what I said, you do?

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Speaker 3: You do?

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Speaker 1: You don't, you don't. But let me show you how

823
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Speaker 1: I'm winning. How I'm winning this argument right now, just

824
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: like they're saying the people that just came in, oh yeah,

825
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: look at them on the Breakfast Club news. They might

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Speaker 1: going to go rewind this at the beginning so I

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Speaker 1: can break down to you where the comments are coming from.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good thing. I made you active. I

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Speaker 1: organized you right now, if you're listening, I organized you.

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Speaker 1: See that's a part of organizing, even if I'm organizing

831
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Speaker 1: you against me. I organized you. I got you active,

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Speaker 1: I got you upset. I've pricked your conscious. I've made

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Speaker 1: you do something. And I'm an organizer first, and I

834
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Speaker 1: made you do something. I made you do something too.

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Speaker 1: Where you are going to bed with this on your mind.

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Speaker 1: You are waking up with this on your mind.

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Speaker 2: You have it.

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Speaker 1: You are tossing and turning off one question. You are

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out every I get the plate. It

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Speaker 1: was all about sending the person a color in the

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Speaker 1: room so that they could feel okay with putting their

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Speaker 1: vitual off, so they could say, oh, this was wrong

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Speaker 1: with black people and know this is that And I'm

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Speaker 1: black and I'm telling you this was wrong.

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Speaker 2: And da da da da da da as a.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast cub listener when they really don't listen to the

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Speaker 1: breafast club and oh yes, she's trash, she's this, she's that,

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Speaker 1: she's da da da da da da. Oh yes she's

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Speaker 1: a veteran, but she still ain't sit. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is I know what the play was. Let him, come in,

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Speaker 1: get okay to say whatever they want to say.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: The job was offered to me guys to be that

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Speaker 1: person in twenty sixteen. I just turned it down. Michael

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Speaker 1: Cohen said he'd make me rich and famous if I

856
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Speaker 1: come to the Trump side. I just turned it down.

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Speaker 1: So I know the plate and I'm not bothered by

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Speaker 1: people who hide behind avatar, who don't use their real name,

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Speaker 1: who really don't have to stand ten toes down behind

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Speaker 1: the words that they say. I'm not impressed. I'm not moved,

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: then bother me. I actually want to beat Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: comment section.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm motivated. I want them to beat it because he

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Speaker 1: only has twenty five thousand. Surely y'all not gonna let

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Speaker 1: sleep with Joe beat you go over to the YouTube

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Speaker 1: and let's make it pop so I can walk with

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Speaker 1: my chest held high. Because, by the way, y'all do

869
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Speaker 1: know that negative and positive, just like y'all say bibles

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Speaker 1: pr campaign, y'all do know that a radio show, when

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Speaker 1: y'all pump it up like that for more views and

872
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: more comments, you actually know that it's a good thing, right,

873
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: even if it's something that they don't like. Y'all do

874
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: know that, don't you. Surely you guys are smart enough

875
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: to know that. I just I'm just wondering if they

876
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: just got that part in my head. And I also

877
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: want you to know that there's no firing of Tesla

878
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: figure O because I'm not an employee and we're on

879
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: VA vacation this week and you're gonna see me bright

880
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: and early Monday doing the front page news. That's what

881
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm there to do, the front page news. So I'm

882
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: let you, I think, denise my positive cumeing off. It's

883
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: other people that requested in.

884
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Speaker 2: Guys.

885
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I would love to hear what you have to say,

886
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: but I don't know you, and I know there's trolls,

887
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not interested in dealing with trolls. I'm sitting

888
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: opening up this space for conservatives that I know and

889
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: trust to be able to say what they want y'all

890
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: to know. And we can do this every day to

891
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: the conservatives that I know, just to remind you what

892
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: they want you to know, because I'm gonna use my

893
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: space your anger for me. I'm gonna use this so

894
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: you can hear from some conservatives. And so I hope

895
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: you did enjoy go back and listen. I actually kept

896
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: it recorded. I hit record this time. Denise, you want

897
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: to get some close Nwahim, I see you here. I

898
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: don't know if you have something to say, you normally

899
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: send a speaker request.

900
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: If you do.

901
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I know they get mad every time I bring you up.

902
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: They told me about that, guys. I get trolled every day,

903
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: and I want to remind you, guys, I'm sitting next

904
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: to Charlemagne. To god, he's probably the most troll most

905
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: talked about, most hated and loved in radio. So this

906
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: is nothing. This is nothing compared to like what I've

907
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: seen people have to go through. Y'all will see what

908
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: he has to go through when he goes after Democrats.

909
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: So nobody's bothered by this at all. Is that you're

910
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: actually doing a piss poor job. You're actually doing a

911
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: piss poor job. You're letting Joe Biden's comment section beat

912
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: you and I and you better get it right by

913
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: the end of the week. You better get it right

914
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: by the end of the week. Y'all better be sleepy

915
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Joe's comment section on The Breakfast Club. If not, you failed,

916
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: and I'm bringing to your attention that you failed once again.

917
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: You failed to test the needs that you want to

918
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: finish something up, And I'm gonna add my hand.

919
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: No, I was just I was just clarifying the point

920
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: that you were making about continuing to do in the

921
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: work when nobody's listening, and I was just saying, I

922
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: can't stop talking about it because the words won't stop.

923
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: And so even when nobody's listening, I have to talk

924
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: about it because the words won't stop. And I think

925
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Speaker 4: there's some kind of edict or saying or expression that

926
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Speaker 4: the thing that you are called to do is the

927
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: thing that you can't put down. So yeah, i could

928
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Speaker 4: have had a cushy job in corporate America doing human

929
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 4: resources with the doctor degree and all of those types

930
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 4: of things, but I've always been called to address the

931
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Speaker 4: ways that's the messaging and the narrative and the activation

932
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: wasn't quite right for Black Americans. So thank you for

933
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: all that you have done and for being an example

934
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Speaker 4: of what it looks like to be driven by purpose

935
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Speaker 4: even when nobody is looking. Because when you do that,

936
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: people automatically do get attracted to it, pay attention, and

937
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: it becomes a normalizing thing. And yes, we ain't done yet,

938
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Speaker 4: and we'll keep doing the work.

939
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Right, And even if it's even if we

940
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: never normalize it.

941
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: See, that's why I keep want to speak to that

942
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: because I want to inspire people to say, if it's

943
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: not normalized, keep talking.

944
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it becoming normalized. Let's just keep talking.

945
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Let's just let it be weird as hell, Let's let

946
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: it be not morm You know what I'm say. That's

947
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: what I when I'm training people on this stuff. These

948
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: are the type of nuggets that I give people because

949
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: if not denise, they'll give up.

950
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: They'll give up.

951
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: They have to know that they're standing in this no

952
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: matter what one of my sessions that I trained on

953
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: was called, it's not about we, It's about me. You

954
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: have to wake up knowing your purpose. Because no matter

955
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: how many videos they do about me in this interview,

956
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: they still are forcing people to hear what I had

957
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: to say. They're working for me, even if it's against me.

958
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: That's the part that they're not connecting. Some call the

959
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: cloud chasing, but you're actually working for me. You're working

960
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: for me. What you're showing is I have the ability

961
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: to spark. For those of you that don't know, Gods

962
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: has some feral dot com. And look at my bio.

963
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: It says that I have the ability to spark the

964
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: conscious of people. That my voice is so resonating, which

965
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: i'll call aggressive, So much power in my voice, so

966
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: much annoys you mind, so much fire it pricks You're

967
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: conscious to do something, even if it is work against me.

968
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm making you do. You literally are doing. Why why

969
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: do what I do? You're showing it. I can make

970
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: you that upset just one word.

971
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do a thirty minute speech, a

972
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: two hour dissertation of so that one thing. And it's

973
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: always been like that my entire life, by the way,

974
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: which is why I go back to the six great examples.

975
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Speaker 1: That one thing that came out of my mouth got

976
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: you so upset. Man, that's a lot of power. That's

977
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of power. That's a lot of power. You're

978
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: proving it. You're quote tweeting right now. I got your

979
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: working for me right now. Welcome to the puppet Master show.

980
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: You're too smart for your own good. You still haven't

981
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: figured it out. My heart is about folks good or bad.

982
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Ain't y'all to say, hey, no, all PR is good.

983
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: Pr I don't always agree with that.

984
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: But don't y'all say that. I know what they say

985
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: to NI said, all pr is good, pr Indy.

986
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: So do you think now that y'all have made this

987
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: viral for five days straight? You don't think that's a

988
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: good thing to a radio station that's the largest audio

989
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: platform in the world.

990
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: You don't think that when y'all.

991
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: Telling people go listen to the full interview, you don't

992
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: think that's another clique, another notch in the belt. You

993
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: don't think that's another listen. Come on, y'all, y'all gotta

994
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: be y'all say, y'all the smartest in the room. I

995
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: gotta know that, don't they. It's not gonna change. You

996
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: still heard the demand didn't vote until three years ago.

997
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: So no matter how much you slammed me. And guess what,

998
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: his opposition heard it too, they'll be bringing it up

999
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: nowhere reast. That's why I said it and end oh nowhere.

1000
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Chris is definitely gonna bring it up. I don't even

1001
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: know Chris Christian, but I look forward to the debate.

1002
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: I look forward to the bank and watch how they

1003
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: bring it up. It's what the reparations movement did quite

1004
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: well when they kept pushing it on Twitter over and

1005
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: over and over and over.

1006
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: You guys, remember that put a one hundred.

1007
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: If you remember that, Remember how they had to bring

1008
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: up reparations on the national debate stage with the Democrats.

1009
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: You know why they did that because it was amplified

1010
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I give to Twitter rep reparationists a lot

1011
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: of I know they've been talking and people can say, well,

1012
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: they've be talking about reparation for twenty thirty years.

1013
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah they have.

1014
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: But it was that constant messaging over and over and

1015
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and

1016
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: over and over that made them have to address it

1017
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: on the main stage. And guess what they're gonna address

1018
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: come August in that debate. They're going to say, well,

1019
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you just voted three years ago, and guess what I'm

1020
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna do nowhim I'm gonna take the clip. I'm telling

1021
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: y'all in advance what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take

1022
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: the clip when they bring it up, kind of like

1023
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: how I did it with when they brought up the

1024
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: NBA the national of the non disclosure agreement with Bernie Sanders,

1025
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: same thing I did, the same thing before. I'm gonna

1026
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: take the clip, and then I'm gonna pair it when

1027
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I said you just voted three years ago, and then

1028
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the game now like it's a Now

1029
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: that's in the comments that you know he I think

1030
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't really support me, but he likes it. I'm

1031
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: that I'm tearing up this guy because remember this is

1032
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: a Remember I keep telling you, it's a sport, it's

1033
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: a it's a sports thing, a team thing. So look,

1034
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: can I give you a game, Dane? Or do you

1035
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: mind put it one hundred? I just want to know

1036
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: if Dane want me to give you the strategy? Shout

1037
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: out to Dane in the building. Do y'all want me

1038
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: to give you a strategy?

1039
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do.

1040
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm get telling you in advance, I'm gonna take the

1041
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: clip and I'm gonna take me saying you just brought

1042
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: up you just started voting four years ago, and then

1043
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. When Chris Christy or Trump asks

1044
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: you better hope you don't have to send up to the

1045
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: next of Trump, you better hope you don't have to

1046
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 1: send them the next to Trump or Nicky Haley or

1047
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: whoever a Ron, whoever it is who has a way

1048
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: bigger base than BIVI, And then I'm gonna pair the

1049
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: two together, Nahim, and.

1050
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run it back again, and I'm.

1051
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Gonna send it over to the Trumpet and I'm gonna

1052
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: send it over to the Chris Christiers, and I'm gonna

1053
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: send it over to the Nicky Hayleys. I'm telling y'all

1054
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: how I do this. This is how I do this,

1055
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna send it over to their base, and

1056
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: you know what they're gonna do. They're gonna retweet it again.

1057
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna be on my side, just like I did it.

1058
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: When I went over the Fox News and talked about

1059
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Joe Biden talked about Bernie Sanders. I sent it to

1060
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's people and they talked about Bernie Sanders. Did

1061
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: the same thing when I talked about Joe Biden, sent

1062
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: it over to Bernie Sanders people and they joined me

1063
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: and talked about and talking about Joe Biden. I've been

1064
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: doing this for a minute. I've been doing this for

1065
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: many guys. So I can't wait August sit here fast

1066
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: enough now him, because I'll bump it up.

1067
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: And we're gonna do it again.

1068
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the twenty five thousand comments, we're gonna

1069
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: bump it up to I'm not gonna stop till we

1070
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: get one hundred thousand comments under that interview. Only next

1071
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: time it's gonna be the Trumpers coming in and saying,

1072
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: look at Bivik. Oh, yeah, he got d bick whatever's

1073
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: name is, he got embarrassed on a hip hop show.

1074
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: Surely he should run for president of the United States.

1075
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait to show y'all how

1076
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: y'all not as smart as y'all think. And I'm putting

1077
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: this recording, this on the record because I want you

1078
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: to see. Guys, I'm telling you how to play the game.

1079
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go straight to the Trumpers. They got way

1080
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: more people than y'all shut out to the Trumpers. I

1081
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: could do it now, but it's better to do it

1082
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: once Donald Trump says it. See, I could do it now,

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Speaker 1: if they're not gonna listen to it because they don't

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Speaker 1: want to make it seem like they're on the Democrats

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Speaker 1: side or the liberal side. So I have to wait

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Speaker 1: till Donald Trump and then crushed him on the base.

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Speaker 2: Stay.

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Speaker 1: I know for sure Chris christ is gonna do it

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Speaker 1: because he did it with Marco Rubio. Remember when Marco

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Speaker 1: Rubio every time he would get out with those talking

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Speaker 1: points and Chris Christy would say, there you go again

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Speaker 1: with those talking points. They do it every time. They

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Speaker 1: can never show the work.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, and I'm gonna reach out. Hey, Chris Christy. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I said this three weeks ago. Last month, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: pass the tests on a hip hop show, surely he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't run for president of the United States. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let Chris Christy's words speak for me, and Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's words speak for me, and Nicky Haley's words speak

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Speaker 1: for me because it's something called opposition research. So every

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Speaker 1: time y'all bump it up, know that his opponents to

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Speaker 1: everything I said. That's why I said it. That's why

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00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I laughed and said it. Your opponents are watching this

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00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: and they're gonna say it in the debate. I did

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00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: that on purpose, dumb bows and dumbests in the comments.

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Speaker 2: I did it on purpose. I set your guy up.

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Speaker 1: But you don't see the setup yet, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see it wait till the debates because he qualified it.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man can grasp ROUNDBA Claus Runda, Claus won't qualified.

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00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait. And then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take that back to the breakfast Club and I'm gonna

1113
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Speaker 1: mention it again on the front page news Notice. Shut

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Speaker 1: out to the breakfast club and being the one that

1115
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: bumped it up. Shout out to the breakfast club and

1116
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: being the one that made all of them changed their

1117
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: narrative on how they attack. Shout out to the breakfast club.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't wait. Shout out to the dumb one,

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Speaker 1: the arrogant one, the the one, oh man, shout up.

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Speaker 1: And they got way more followers than you, buddy. They

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Speaker 1: got way more followers than you, buddy. So that's the

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Speaker 1: game plan. Somebody answered us, they what's the endgame? Wait

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Speaker 1: till August. You'll see it in real time. Go ahead, Naim,

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Speaker 1: good morning, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Peace, peace was going noise.

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Speaker 6: Just the first shout out to you and the work

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00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 6: that you've done and in the work that you continue

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Speaker 6: to do. You know, uh, you and Sonny have been

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00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 6: a great inspiration for me, and I was at to

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Speaker 6: push the line summit last September.

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Speaker 2: It's powerful.

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Speaker 6: I was just going over the notes the other day,

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00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 6: just the other day, and I want to give accet

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Speaker 6: station to what you said about your haters elevating you right,

1135
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Speaker 6: And I'm a little windy because I'm in the park

1136
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Speaker 6: getting my mouths and you know, I got to take

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Speaker 6: care of this old body.

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Speaker 2: Let me sit down for a moment. Hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 1: So so y'all know, Naim and I got different opinion

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Speaker 1: on affirmative actions. So it's not that I have problems

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: with difference of opinion. That wasn't what was not my enemy.

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Speaker 1: So just so we're clear, I have no problem having

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Speaker 1: conversation with people. But go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Name No, definitely, definitely, because the haters are all around,

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: like like literally literally all around. And last night there

1146
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 6: was a Twitter speace and these I mean they was

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00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: I think like two three hundred people in the Twitter space,

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Speaker 6: and I mean I heard my name was said like

1149
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Speaker 6: a hundred times.

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Speaker 2: I heard one of the clips.

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Speaker 6: Nahim, Nahim, Nahim, Nahim, Nahim, nahim, Nahim. All we doing

1152
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 6: is the work. That's all we're doing. And they didn't realize.

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00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 6: I sat there last night, I said, the only thing

1154
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 6: they're gonna do is have those people that are listening

1155
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 6: in go check out who the hell is this Nahim guy?

1156
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: And then I come in this space and I'll get

1157
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 6: another shout out from my sister teds. And now the

1158
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: people that was in that space last night said, oh okay,

1159
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 6: well somebody that asked about something outside of these Twitter

1160
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 6: space cadets that ain't on shit.

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00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: It's also shouting this guy out. Let me check out,

1162
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: let me check him out.

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Speaker 6: Even further, y'all, go to my website usadof dot org.

1164
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 6: Check out our YouTube channel be the Power and get

1165
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 6: our you know, political breakdowns, et cetera.

1166
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Speaker 2: Et cetera. That's all I came up to say.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to give attestation to the fact that

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00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: you that's all mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And and and even just clear, it's even clear. Like

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Speaker 1: I again, I run a communications firm, so it's it's

1171
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: they definitely make you greater, but they also you're I mean,

1172
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: they're literally doing the job that I want them to do.

1173
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 2: I really want y'all to know.

1174
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: That, like, and I mean that literally literally if anybody

1175
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: is too dumb to know that you elevating that interview

1176
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 1: on a show that is provocative and that's their job

1177
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: to elevate conversations and you elevating it literally is doing

1178
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: iHeart a favor. It's interesting not him and I. And

1179
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: it's because most of the people who are in the

1180
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: comment section on YouTube, they don't watch the show, so

1181
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: I guess they don't know Charlemagne's background. But that's literally

1182
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: what he does, and the in the sense and the

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: sense of everywhere, Like literally, it's not a day that

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: goes by that somebody say that they don't like what

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00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: you do on his own show. When I do the

1186
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: frontation news people talk and trash him all the time.

1187
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: It's literally a part.

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00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Of the strategy, like in the literal sense. So it's

1189
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: just so hilarious that they actually think that their disdain

1190
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: with me is not a good thing. It's a good

1191
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: thing because it shows that I'm powerful. It shows that

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00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: I have a lot of power. That's what it shows.

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00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: It shows that I'm influential. It shows that my one

1194
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: little word triggers you enough to go sign in YouTube

1195
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: and not just watch it because everybody else, Because if

1196
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: I didn't matter, you would just scroll past it. What

1197
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: makes you stop and actually write something? What makes you

1198
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: stop and go create another video about it? In another

1199
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: video about it, another video about it? Why are you

1200
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: listening to the sound of my voice right now? That's

1201
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: what I do. That's what I do.

1202
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: Stare up the.

1203
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: Conversation, stare the pot and now your opposition has now

1204
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: heard it because the big deal folks, and I look

1205
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: forward to Ron or Chris Christie. I'm betting Chris Christy

1206
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Trump if he makes it to the debate. But Chris

1207
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: Christie is absolutely gonna bring up the fact that you

1208
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: just voted three years ago. So that was really my

1209
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: only job. And I want to thank all of the

1210
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: co producers, you guys on Twitter, I'm calling you co producers,

1211
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: you guys on YouTube, co producers for elevating the message.

1212
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: Shout out to all of you for making the extra

1213
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: YouTube videos and making a trend and doing it on TikTok.

1214
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: You've done this black woman the biggest favor because now

1215
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: they really know I'm a boss. Not only do they

1216
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: know I can move a whole state like I did

1217
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: in Michigan when we beat Hillary Clinton. Now they know

1218
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: I can move these airways. Yeah, and you helped make

1219
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: it possible. Oh man, I just want to say, I

1220
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: want to thank you, and I want to challenge you

1221
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: to do more because it's not enough. I'm not impressed

1222
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: until y'all beat Joe Biden's comment section, which is twenty

1223
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: five thousand. You guys are about six or seven thousand away,

1224
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: So send out another text message to your silos and

1225
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: tell them to get busy. Somebody said somebody's buying comments

1226
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: as well, because you guys know you can do that, right.

1227
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: You know you can go There's so many different softwares

1228
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: out there to buy comments. You do know that, right,

1229
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: I hope put a one hundred if you guys know that,

1230
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: So get busy, and whoever bought the comments, I need

1231
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: you to dig back in your pocket and invest more.

1232
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: Whoever is sending out these text messages need I need

1233
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: you to go a little bit harder and get busy

1234
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: with doing it. I know you're trying to bump up

1235
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: his relevancy, so you can show. We saw the same

1236
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: thing with Andrew Yang on the Democrats side, saw the

1237
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: same thing with Bernie Sanders. I was a part of

1238
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: the campaign folks, when nobody knew who Bernie Sanders was

1239
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. So I've actually worked on a national

1240
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: campaign where we had to make people know somebody that

1241
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: nobody knew. This is how I can recognize the play.

1242
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: You're doing a great job, but I want you to

1243
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: work a little bit harder. When I log in by Friday,

1244
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: what's today Wednesday? You better damn well have twenty five

1245
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: thousand comments. If not, you failed. Let me say it again,

1246
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: you better have twenty five thousand at minimum comments on

1247
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: the YouTube comments section about your disdain for me. If not,

1248
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: you failed, and it better be by Friday and then

1249
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: on Monday. Tap back in to hear me again at

1250
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: six am, in on six and seven am, and tune

1251
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: in on be Et Black Entertainment Channel at nine am

1252
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: everyday Eastern Standard Time, giving you the front page news.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, you have been great. I would love

1254
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: to have some other folks come up, but I don't

1255
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: know you, and I don't know who you.

1256
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: Are, and so I just can't trust it.

1257
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: So but I hope I made you upset enough to

1258
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: spend you, guys, spent your whole holiday yesterday being upset.

1259
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: I ruined your barbecue. Isn't that a shame? I ruined

1260
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: your barbecue. I want to ruin it until Friday, though.

1261
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: I want you to go to bed with this. I

1262
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: want you to wake up with it. I want you

1263
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: to toss and turn. I want you to grapple with it.

1264
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: I want you to keep tweeting, tweeting, tweet and tweet

1265
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: and tweeting. But most of all, I want you to

1266
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: go to YouTube and let's get those comments up. Let's

1267
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: set the record. Let's set the record so I can

1268
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: say I set the record. One question set the record.

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Speaker 1: You know how good that looks on my bible. I

1270
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: can't wait to brag about that. You know, you know

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00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: I love giving my resume now. I even know they

1272
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: hate it when I do it, and I can't wait

1273
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: to talk. I can't wait to add this. I can't

1274
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: wait because of that one question. It made it all

1275
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the way to the presidential debate. And you better believe

1276
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take credit for it, even if they say no,

1277
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: we were playing on saying it anyway. No, no, no,

1278
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: the numbers showed that I brought I'm the one that

1279
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: did it because it went viral.

1280
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I love it. They fall for it every time.

1281
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Speaker 1: In case you're having subscribed for those who do rock

1282
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: with me, make sure you subscribe to Straight Shot No Chase.

1283
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: It's a podcast that I have on iHeartRadio. I've had

1284
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: it for about three years. I talk much worse, much

1285
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: more aggressive, much more vich youre all than what you saw.

1286
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: You can subscribe by dropping new content every Thursday. Talk

1287
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: about talk about independence, talk about Republicans, and talk about y'all.

1288
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: So hey, I'm here for it. Love you to death.

1289
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: And like I always say, use lose it. Can't make

1290
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: you choose it, because Denise, I'm never asking them to

1291
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: choose it. They can use it or lose it. I'm

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Speaker 1: like FedEx, I'm dropping it off at the door. You

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Speaker 1: either do it or do it. You don't, you don't.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to the ten episodes that are also

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Speaker 1: coming out. I gotta say this naming because they gonna say, oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: she got that, because she got this. No, We've been

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Speaker 1: working on that all year. So I look forward to

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Speaker 1: the ten episodes that are coming out on Revolt as well.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to more things that we're doing on the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club and upcoming a couple of tours that we're

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Speaker 1: working on Dallas. I look forward to seeing you, me

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Speaker 1: and the DC and Killer Mike just organized again. Remember

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Speaker 1: it's always about being on the ground. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you in Dallas. I believe it's August fourth.

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Speaker 1: Would again going on the ground and speaking directly to

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Speaker 1: our community.

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Speaker 2: Off of Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna always find me organizing, so again tell them

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Speaker 1: figgo dot com.

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Speaker 2: Y'all get busy, y'all get busy.

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Speaker 1: Make him proud, make him proud, and use your service

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Speaker 1: and exercise it in the YouTube comments. I'm so very

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Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm so proud of you. You finally

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Speaker 1: found something to rally behind. You finally got them rally

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Speaker 1: behind something. Mister Ramaswamy, so very proud of you. Keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work and still start bollunteering on the

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Speaker 1: weekends because Chris Chris is gonna bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Peace.

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Speaker 7: the Black Effect podcast Network. In iHeartRadio, I'm tilm figure

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Speaker 7: out and I'd like to thank our producer editor mixer

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Speaker 7: Dwayne Cruffer and our executive producer Charlott magnee God. For

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