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Speaker 1: Disney gays are different from Disney Channel gaze. We are

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Speaker 1: not a monolith, clarifying that that's really important. I'm not

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Speaker 1: out here with Mickey Mouse's ears. No, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to.

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Speaker 2: You keep them, you keep, but you keep them things

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Speaker 2: out here. You have a pair you just for ic

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Speaker 2: She's sheen. I'm me, no me, not my name?

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Speaker 1: Yo?

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Speaker 3: What is your childe?

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Speaker 1: I am a cook.

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Speaker 3: Your life's going down.

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Speaker 4: The floor like.

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Speaker 1: Round.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Like a Virgin, the show where we give

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Speaker 2: yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'mro's DomU Frand and I

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Speaker 2: Believe were both still coming down from the incredible high

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Speaker 2: of the Caroline polchech ethel Caine Show this weekend, also

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Speaker 2: known as Motherfest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait, can we talk about the fact that it

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Speaker 3: is annoying that people kept shouting, screaming mother and Caroline Politecks.

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Speaker 2: Screaming mother, screaming Diva, scream just screaming things. I mean

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Speaker 2: I did at one point on the scream we Love

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Speaker 2: leashed myself.

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Speaker 3: Were you sitting by myself or were you with the group?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I was sitting by myself because I didn't buy

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Speaker 2: a ticket until Friday night because we were we were

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Speaker 2: at a party Friday night, and I had like vaguely

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Speaker 2: known that Caroline was playing and then, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: know that Ethel was opening for her. And so as

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Speaker 2: soon as I heard that, I was like, well, I

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Speaker 2: can't miss that combo. So I just uber on my

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Speaker 2: way home. I just bought a ticket and got a

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you experienced some of this obviously. That show

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Speaker 2: is very much like our demographic in terms of listeners.

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Speaker 2: And there were many rosebuds there Hi, which was very

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Speaker 3: I definitely talked to a virgin or two. It is

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Speaker 3: our demographic in fact, Like we can definitely write this

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Speaker 2: Oh good idea. I should have. I should have just

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Speaker 2: charged it to the business.

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Speaker 3: Not that not our business card. You can write it

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Speaker 3: off on your own taxes, sweetie. Unless I got because

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Speaker 3: I was a plus one to our friend Anya to

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not as much of a Caroline stan

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm the average girl. Yeah, okay, I'll take it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: girl next door just kidding, Caroline Politic is not a

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Speaker 3: She's a girl next door to like an alien planet.

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Speaker 2: The girl next door to like like a chemical plant

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Speaker 2: that was amazing, incredible, you know, I like so as

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Speaker 2: I was saying, like ethel was what tipped you over

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Speaker 2: her set really was spellbinding and like took us to church,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Desire I Want to Turn Into You is

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Speaker 3: I was underwhelmed. I didn't under I think I mostly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she really brought both of her albums to life

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Speaker 3: Goodbye BBQ Laurel Charleston, who will be in an upcoming

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Speaker 2: So go to patreon dot com slash like a Virgin

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Speaker 2: so you can listen to that. It was very good.

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Speaker 3: It was it was too much Amy Adams, like thinking

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Speaker 3: Lizo can sing, She's just can't sing live. Lizzo can sing.

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Speaker 3: Lizzo is an amazing, amazing artist. She just really joy

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Speaker 2: So Katy Perry is an incredible entertainer and literally slayed

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Speaker 3: I would rather go to a Liso show. Well, I

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Speaker 2: Actually, there is not one single there's not one single

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Speaker 2: sell well that's because Katie is really good at selling anything,

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Speaker 2: literally anything. She can sell the Sims, she can sell pop,

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Speaker 2: Katie's SIMS covers on Friday Night Lizzo. I will say,

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Speaker 3: That's I hate that tiktoks where she eats vegan food.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's literally her only creative output that I actually,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that she's making good music. I think

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Speaker 3: stardom or chasing pop stardom. You just can't empty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: something that's maybe a little more ownable. Like she she's

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Speaker 3: a little less. She obviously needs to be successful. She's

435
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: always going to chase chase money and chase pop stardom.

436
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: But she's giving us like, you know, poop, like the

437
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: little poop in the toilet on stage dancing or whatever

438
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: like that is undeniably singular and I miss when Lizo

439
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: used to be like that, because she did used to

440
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: be that girl like Lizzo has always been someone who

441
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: is weird, different, not doing it like the other girls

442
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: are doing it, And now she is doing it like

443
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: the other girls are doing it, and I think that's boring.

444
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: I think all her music is dog shit, except for

445
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: that one song that she made with Missy Elliott. Yeah wait, okay.

446
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: Something that I almost did this weekend that I actually

447
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: think we were talking about on Friday night with Peyton

448
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: and Hilton is that I kind of want to get

449
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: into play Zelda because everyone's talking about it, and I

450
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: almost bought a Nintendo Switch and Zelda this weekend.

451
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: My grandma sent me a two hundred and fifty dollars check.

452
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: I don't know the last time that my grandmother mailed

453
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Speaker 3: me a track. It has been a while since we spoke.

454
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if she heard that I was having

455
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: money issue, but I the way, I immediately thought about

456
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: using that to buy a Nintendo Switch so that I

457
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 3: could play well because.

458
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Speaker 2: That's the exact price of a Nintendo Switch light and

459
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Speaker 2: a Zelda game.

460
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: Yes, oh no, I mean, oh yeah. Switch light is

461
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: when I need to change your books. That's crazy.

462
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: So the thing?

463
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: Can you plug a switch light into your TV?

464
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: No?

465
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: Okay, so I need that. So I would have to

466
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Speaker 3: get the actual switch which is.

467
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: Just which is like one hundred and fifty dollars.

468
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Speaker 3: For back when I had Netflix money, Like girl, that

469
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: that that that video game, it would have been. It

470
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: would have been my house already, babe. But like I'm

471
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: I I honestly, the money is the core issue for me.

472
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: But I do feel like I still really want to

473
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Speaker 3: buy it, and I also really want to buy the prequel,

474
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Speaker 3: The Wind of the Willow and The Sounds of the

475
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: Pussy or whatever the yeah, the.

476
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Speaker 4: Wind of the Yeah.

477
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, So so I like, I don't know why I

478
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: decided that I wanted to play it, But you're not

479
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: neither of not a game person. I really am not one. No,

480
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: I have to I have to have my own I'm

481
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: not a game person, And I tried. I went on

482
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: TikTok and was looking up videos of gameplay to see

483
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: if it was something I was interested in, and I

484
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: was really convinced I was. And then I was watching

485
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: these videos, I was like, this looks so fucking boring.

486
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: So I will say from what I know about you,

487
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Speaker 3: rose you if you do not must through what is

488
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: an extremely And this is just what gamers have told me,

489
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: because I've been asking a lot of people about the game,

490
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: about whether I should buy, about what I should buy first,

491
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: et cetera. If it's hard to learn from what I

492
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: understand and from what I know about you, you would

493
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: have a very difficult time muscling through like the kind

494
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: of first like five to fifteen hours of gameplay, because

495
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: five to fifteen, yes, because the first the first well,

496
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: the first three hours are something of a tutorial, I believe,

497
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: where you're understanding how all of like kind of I

498
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: was about to say, luke links, links, like like abilities,

499
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: like all the different like you know, tricks and stuff

500
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: like that. This is me trying to do gamers speak,

501
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, all the little tricks and stuff. But yeah, no,

502
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: I honestly don't think I think you'll have a hard

503
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: time unless you get to the point where you're like, oh,

504
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: now I understand the game, because it is a game

505
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: that you kind of you have a bit of an

506
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: aha moment you're like, oh now I understand how this works.

507
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: But it's pretty difficult to master what it is to

508
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: get link going so take that into consideration. Yeah, I

509
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: think I think I think it's going to be it's

510
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Speaker 3: a no from I think it's a no for me. Dog,

511
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Speaker 3: I think that time would be better suited to me

512
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: reading books and.

513
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Speaker 2: Working on my novel.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Not.

515
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: And I don't need to like spend three hundred bucks

516
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: to realize that I'm not a game person.

517
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Speaker 4: Virgins.

518
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Speaker 3: Not to spoil anything for you, but it is a

519
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Speaker 3: really good time to be subscribed to the Patreon right now.

520
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: Like if you were to just subscribe for the summer,

521
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Speaker 3: if you were too well, we don't recommend that you

522
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523
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Speaker 3: if you were to hop in now, it's not too late.

524
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Speaker 3: If you were to follow us at like a virgin

525
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Speaker 3: for twenty sixty nine right now, you may be privy

526
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Speaker 3: Please please please engage with us, because look, I.

528
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Speaker 2: Hate to say it, Pride is around the corner, not

529
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Speaker 2: that any of us is, like, you know, booking Pride.

530
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Speaker 2: I mean I booked one Pride gig, but like the

531
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Speaker 2: Pride gigs are not coming through this year because you know,

532
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Speaker 2: every company is like homophobic. Now, love that for them.

533
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

534
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: You know who's not homophobic is our guest today. That's

535
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: probably because he's gay. Don't need to clock his teeth.

536
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: But we have Gay Brigado on the podcast today. He

537
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: is a writer, former co worker of mine, one of

538
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Speaker 2: the girls, and he is here to talk all about

539
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Speaker 2: Disney Channel d COM's Disney Channel Original movies. For those

540
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Speaker 2: who aren't up to date on the lingo, so you know,

541
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Speaker 2: grab your wand make those little like mouse ears zidas lapita.

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Speaker 1: Think.

543
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Speaker 3: I had a list of DCOM summarized to me by

544
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: our dear friend Ashley Lukachevsky. And let me tell you,

545
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: the log lines for some of these are crazy. I

546
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 3: literally don't know how they exist as like fully realized movies.

547
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Can you break down for us what the acronym d

548
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: COM stands.

549
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: For Disney Channel Original Movie? For those that are uninformed,

550
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: that would be me.

551
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: I'm the uninformed one. Guilty Istar.

552
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Did you not have Halo growing up? No, which I understand.

553
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think there was a class access issue

554
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: with Disney Channel growing up.

555
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you would think I would, because you know,

556
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Disney has Latinas in their pocket.

557
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: Like if there's one thing that a Latin family is.

558
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: Gonna do it's watch dcons, but we were not a

559
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: cable household.

560
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: I want to share my first the first memory I

561
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: have of watching Disney Channel. So there was one year,

562
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: the year that That's So Raven premiered. They premiered it

563
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: at midnight on New Year's Day, and there was like

564
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: a whole lead up to it, and I watched Disney

565
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: Channel all that night waiting for That's So Raven and

566
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: then the world changed forever.

567
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: And then they dropped four episodes at night.

568
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but it's possible.

569
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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like one of the episodes

570
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: was the party, the birthday party with the snake or

571
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: something like that.

572
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: Sure, there was always like that. Any Disney Channel sitcom episode,

573
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, name like a place or an event,

574
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: a weird animal, something traumatic that could happen to a teenager.

575
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: And then maybe what's the fourth thing?

576
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: Gender swap, some sort of gender swaps, Yeah, sort of like.

577
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: A weird saying like jinkies or.

578
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, a technology kind of based like snapho. I mean, yeah,

579
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Speaker 3: this I as someone who like grew as as y'all,

580
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: y'all grew up with d cooms, Right was the I

581
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: like just want to know when you're experiencing them in

582
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: real time? Were these like like eventized? What were like

583
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: Disney Channel original movies, Like were they gaggy? Like did

584
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: they drop? And everyone was like, oh my fucking ud,

585
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: Like yeah, what was it? What was the experience of that?

586
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: It was like bigger than like a supreme drop, honestly,

587
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: because it was like they would lead up being like

588
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: the Ultimate Christmas Gift dropping on December twelfth or whatever,

589
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: and you would wait like weeks for it to fally

590
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: come out on that f Friday and it would play

591
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: it all weekend and then so yeah, it was definitely

592
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I feel like bring back linear, you know. I like

593
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: loved like the anticipation for a movie to come out.

594
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: I remember I think the Thirteenth Year was coming out,

595
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: which is many gay boys young gay awakening because it's

596
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: the the Mermaid movie.

597
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh with the Merman, Yeah, exactly.

598
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: Murman representation.

599
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: What is it called again?

600
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Speaker 1: I heard about this the thirteenth Year.

601
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: The thirteenth Year.

602
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the concept is that there's this boy, he's

603
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Speaker 1: a really good swimmer. Then it turns out it's revealed

604
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: to them that his mom is actually a mermaid and

605
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: he was like like given to this adopted family, and

606
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: in his thirteenth year he starts getting all these mermaid qualities,

607
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: like whenever suches water, like he's like his scales come

608
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: out and stuff. Oh no that yeah, it's like it's

609
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: like the Splash reboot starring Channing Tatum that's allegedly happening.

610
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: It's it's more like that.

611
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: What was the the like fish Call Me by Your Name.

612
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: Luca Luca, which I never watched all the way through.

613
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking of HTWOL the Australian series.

614
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: I never watched that.

615
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where like the TikTok audio. Oh no, Clay,

616
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: yeah it is. No, you're your history, your now, your now,

617
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: your mermaid history.

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00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

619
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: So the the the dcom boy that I had a

620
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: crush on was the boy in Luck of the Irish Oh,

621
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Speaker 1: Ryan Merriman, who turned into a Leprica.

622
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's little I remember hearing about this. He's very

623
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Speaker 3: small on the cover of the movie.

624
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Well also he's small and he's a basketball player.

625
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Speaker 3: That is the one thing that I appreciate about these

626
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: these movies and D comms is that like I you

627
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: you understand the movie immediately when you look at the

628
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: at the picture with the okay, so with the Thirteenth Year,

629
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Speaker 3: does he so does he eventually grow a mermaid tale.

630
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Speaker 1: Or No, I don't think he does, cause he's only

631
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Speaker 1: half mermaid, okays something like that.

632
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: Something that I loved about the cover of the Thirteenth

633
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: Year was that he didn't have one mermaid tale. He

634
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: had two fish mermaid legs because he's a man murmaid.

635
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh so he can't have a tail, yeah.

636
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: A tale because that would be too much, but like

637
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: the two fish legs look worse. I was like, this

638
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: is and also like on the swimming level, like I

639
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: don't know how you're gonna get what you need to

640
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: get done. But okayluck of the Irish Crush leverricn Man.

641
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay back to the question. But the drop.

642
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: I remember the Thirteenthyear was coming out and I was like, oh,

643
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: like from all the commercials, he's so cute blah blah blah,

644
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: like in my closet itself. And we were at my

645
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: mom's friend's house on like a Friday, and I told her,

646
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: I was like, we have to be home by this movie.

647
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: We have we just like we can't miss it, and

648
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: of course like we like are there too late? And

649
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: then I like I have to just like watch it

650
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: here then Mom, so it's like we have to like

651
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Speaker 1: now wait another hour and a half for me to

652
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Speaker 1: finish this movie here, which I think my mom was

653
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: finally because she was still hanging out with her friend,

654
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: but like I was in the living room being like

655
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: pregay watching this Mermaid Boy swim an experience.

656
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: I think all of us can relate to. Those d

657
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: coms had some incredible star power. I think Lindsay Lohan

658
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: was in one.

659
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Get a Clue, Get a Clue, The Spy One Yeah,

660
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: with Brenda Song, Branda Song, and Bug Hall who played

661
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Alfalfa in the litchool movie.

662
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember him.

663
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: Get a Clue.

664
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: She was just like getting clues right, she was solving mystery.

665
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: It was sort of like the smart kind of well.

666
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I think her like one of her teachers went missing

667
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: and they were like, what happened to her? And I

668
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: think they got it. They got a bunch of clues

669
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: to figure out.

670
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: So the title really is incredibly descriptive. There was also

671
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Cadet Kelly, The Lesbian Awakening for many.

672
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: Well, a lesbian, you know, military industrial a pro military

673
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: propaganda lesbian.

674
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: Cipher.

675
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do you know that the queer girl. The

676
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: sapphics do love the tension between Hillary Duff and content

677
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: creator Christy.

678
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: Carl Christi Krals and Ramana. Okay, so she had so

679
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: for virgins who don't know Christy Carlson. Romana had a

680
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: bit of a revival during the pandemic when she started

681
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: uploading these really insane YouTube videos where she was just

682
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: like walking in a forest somewhere talking to someone who

683
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: is probably like walking backwards holding a camera.

684
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: I have no idea who business.

685
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: She was on ran from even Stevens.

686
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the older sister Stevens. She was also

687
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: the voice of Kim Possible. And her videos have titles

688
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: like I Survived nine to eleven and then like or

689
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: like my nine to eleven story.

690
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: Oh but did she survive?

691
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: She was, I believe in New York City on nine

692
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: to eleven. But she was, but she wasn't in the tower.

693
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 4: Yes.

694
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: Well, and then when I was at teen Vogue, I

695
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: published an essay from her talking about like why she

696
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: like kind of like left Disney Channel and like all

697
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: her like struggles and I remember like the intro was

698
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: that she had gotten like scammed like thousands of dollars

699
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: by like someone who does like crystal work or something,

700
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: which I'm like, if you're looking for answers, I guess

701
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: like you know you are a mark. But I am

702
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: glad that she's now monetizing her YouTube.

703
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did tell a story about that on on

704
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: on her YouTube channel about how she lost all her

705
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: Disney Channel money and she was kind of the I

706
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: would say that she, Raven and Hillary Duff were the

707
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: queens of Disney Channel at that time.

708
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: For that era.

709
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: Definitely, do we think that like she uh has graduated

710
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: with the same success as a Hillary Duff or a Raven?

711
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: So is she like so is that just like always

712
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: like a like assault and like a salty taste in

713
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: her mouth or something like? Is that or do you

714
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 3: think that she doesn't care?

715
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure she cares.

716
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: Did So what's the plot of Kelly. I've literally heard

717
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: this movie talked about so much and I actually don't know.

718
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: So Hillary Duff is like a little like she is

719
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: in trouble, right, So.

720
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: The thing is that she's in trouble.

721
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: She's very I mean, she's maybe like super materialistic. She

722
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: like gets bad grades.

723
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, because there's that that video of

724
00:39:51,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: heard about her friend. You know what I'm talking about. No,

725
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm shet. Yeah, she's like a military materialistics so her

726
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: parents send her to like military school where Ren Stevens

727
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: whips her into shape.

728
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a bunch of millennial lesbians were born.

729
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Gabe, Dare we ask what your favorite Disney Channel

730
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: original was?

731
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: I do? I think it's like so hard because there's

732
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: so many legendary Wise Children smart House obviously, but smart

733
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: House is scary.

734
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Is scary, It was scary.

735
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: I've seen the end of it.

736
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: I do think that Xenon is my like FACEE says, yeah,

737
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: it's that's a good thing. That's like it's like I

738
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: think everyone's favorite, but like I think the only like

739
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: the only like Astik would be like my other my

740
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: like under the Radar fave is probably the ultimate Christmas gift?

741
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: What's that?

742
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: It's where Brenda Song and her friend the Girl from

743
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Flight twenty nine down discover that Santa Claus has a

744
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: tool that could prevent climate change?

745
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: What?

746
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

747
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Have you never seen it? Also, like Brenna's song is

748
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: like baby and I think it was like whoever first

749
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: big Disney Channel movies. So her and her best friend

750
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: they're in southern California and then they fine. Santa Claus

751
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: is like workshop and he has this device that can

752
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: control weather, and so they steal it and they make

753
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: it snow in California and so it like budges up

754
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: everything and then an evil weatherman tries to steal it

755
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: from these two two Like preteen, it is.

756
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: Kind of coming back to me now a lot. Wow,

757
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: that's incredible. I think my favorite d com is Halloween Town,

758
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: as basic as that is, or maybe maybe no, it's

759
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: it's the original, not Halloween Town too.

760
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Calibars Revenge and then there are three with Sarah Paxton.

761
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that that girl got booted past and now

762
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: her whole thing is like she's the girl from Halloween

763
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Town and she married.

764
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Married Calbary Calibar. That's Calibar's Revenge. That is I wonder

765
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: what is going on.

766
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: It's actually so like so many different names where its

767
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: phrases that can only be known with you know, knowing

768
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: Disney Channel original movie.

769
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: Do you think they do role play when they have sex?

770
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: But like from other dcons, So who's Calibar.

771
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: Who's Calibar?

772
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Okay, this Halloween Town is the grandchildren of w Reynolds

773
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: find out that there are families from Halloween Town, a

774
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: magical place where Halloween every single.

775
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Day, which is where I want to live.

776
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so they go to Halloween Town. But

777
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: then there's this evil plot by someone who's turning the

778
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: the people of Halloween Town into like statues or something. Yeah,

779
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: something like that. I remember that scene really scared me

780
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: as a kid, actually, and his name is Calibar.

781
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

782
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: But then in a second movie, Calibar's Revenge, it's his son,

783
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and then the evil has leaked its way into the

784
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: real world. And the only way they realize that they

785
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: can versus spells by saying that backwards.

786
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: Which is which would be really hard to do kind

787
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: of on the fly.

788
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but you know it's how spells work. Everybody

789
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: knows that.

790
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: So anyways, so these two Disney Channel movie stars ended

791
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: up reconnecting a year later and noo, they're married.

792
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: Wait, so was Halloween Town among like the the kind

793
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: of like decoms that everybody loved I think the Golden Era.

794
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: To me, it sounds like it's just one of the

795
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: ones that stick out, and so in my mind, I

796
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: was like, it must be like top ten or something

797
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: like they're tough five like, but there's so many like I.

798
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: Think Halloween Town probably has the longevity because it's holiday based,

799
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: it's seasonal, you can watch it every year at the

800
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: same time, and there's the nostalgia of it all. I

801
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: don't know, what do you think are the crown jewels

802
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: of dcoms.

803
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I think definitely Xenoen, Halloween Town, Connect, Kelly I'm Cheetah Girl.

804
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: Oh I fell asleep to that movie as a trauma response.

805
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Adrian Bilin would not be happy to hear that, neither

806
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: with Keeye Williams. For younger generation, they love Lemonade Mouth

807
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: starring Haley Kyoko, Bridgite Medler.

808
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: Kaylee Hyoko started out as the Disney Channel.

809
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: Curly Hailey Kyoko.

810
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: Hailey Kyoko. I thought you said, Kaylee, Kaylee, you were

811
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: a coconut Coca nut a Coca pa. Hailey Keyoko started

812
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: as a Disney Channel Curly Yeah.

813
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: Lesbian and Jesus yes, and she has a very lesbian haircut. Great, yeah,

814
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: what other I mean? There's obviously even Stevens. A lot

815
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: of like the the like the big Disney Channel shows

816
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: also had their own like original movies like im Possible

817
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: had a d com and.

818
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: Some of them had actual theatrical films, like the Lizzie

819
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: McGuire movie.

820
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was the only one that got

821
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: that though.

822
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Ye, well, because Lucy McGuire was the moment Lucy maguire

823
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: kind of took over culture for a second for sure,

824
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: for sure. Harry Christmas Lizzy McGuire, as Aaron Carter once said,

825
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: rest in peace.

826
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Did you grow watching Lizzy McGuire at all?

827
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: You know, Lizzie McGuire was available on Saturdays in my

828
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: household what they called it? What was I think growing

829
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: up it was called one Saturday Morning or whatever, where

830
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: like we got the cable shows for like one one morning.

831
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess I did kind of grow up

832
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: with with Hillary Duff as someone like in the culture,

833
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: Lizzy McGuire was someone that I wanted to be. But

834
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the show regularly, so I only knew

835
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: so much about it, Like when Miranda has an eating

836
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: disorder for one episode and then it just goes away

837
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: and it's fine.

838
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because she faints from almost like dancing too much.

839
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, why ask.

840
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: Because one of my like favorite sort of like seeing

841
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: with Latino culture growing up was they go on a

842
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Mexican game show McGuire because Miranda's cousin is like, oh,

843
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: we can win all this money. I know Spanish, We're good,

844
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: And then they go on and he gets eliminated. No,

845
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't get limited. He gets like like trapcarted or

846
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: something and has to be put in a cage. So

847
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: it's as three of them left to their own devices,

848
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: not knowing. Not knowing Spanish was honestly a core memory

849
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: for me to grow.

850
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: The kind of plot place, the plot twist and developments

851
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: of these movies feels absolutely insane to watch, like as

852
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: an adult. I again have really not watched.

853
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: That many Disney Channel original.

854
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: Movies, but I did watch the Lizzie McGuire movie last

855
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: year with Ash, our friend Ash, and do all of

856
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: the movies like completely like like fabricate and flip in

857
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: plot like immediately, and it's like the stupidest thing you've

858
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: ever heard, Like it makes no actual like physical sense

859
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: like what they're doing.

860
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I would argue that Smart House actually reflects

861
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: today's I think Smart House was incredible time. Yeah yeah, yeah,

862
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: I feel like for my first, like my first full

863
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: time writing job. Somewhere I wrote about how like Disney

864
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Channel or some movie like like predicted the future of technology,

865
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: which smart house Xenon living on a space station. Elon

866
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: Musk wants what Xenon has say.

867
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: That Xenon's hair is like how the girlies are doing

868
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 3: it now, Like it's full like early aughtscore like blonde tips.

869
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and Protozoa.

870
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I meant.

871
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Protozoa also favorite tip. One of my little tidbits

872
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: about the Xenon movies I love is that in the

873
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: original movie, her best friend has played with they Raven Simonie.

874
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: In the second movie they replaced her with shady A Simmons,

875
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: as if we're not going to recognize that this is

876
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: a different black girl. And in the third movie they

877
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: bring back Raven Simonie. Kay yeahs And they just no

878
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: questions asked.

879
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: Wait, I wasn't Raven already? He was she already huge

880
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: by the first.

881
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: Xenon movie or no, I think the first Zenon movie

882
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: is before.

883
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: That's so Raven it was, and it's so crazy to.

884
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Think about replacing someone like Raven. Yeah, that's embarrassing for them.

885
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: But no, but Shady Simon's iconic because she is in

886
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: the color of friendship.

887
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Wait, I've heard about the color of friendship. I haven't.

888
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

889
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Gabe, that's when I think, Okay, the most talk

890
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: about Prescian and inter racial.

891
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 4: Uh you know.

892
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: I think the premise is a white girl from South

893
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: Africa comes and stays with a black family in the States,

894
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and then she realizes there's like the color.

895
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: Well she's like, have you guys heard of apartheid?

896
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: Well, from what I understand, this is what ashe told me,

897
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: is that like the white family is like kind of bringing.

898
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: This exchange student.

899
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: I think it's thinking it's going to be a black

900
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: student from South Africa, and then she comes and then

901
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm white.

902
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: And then her.

903
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: Dad is like, she's like a bad person, right, Like

904
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: the white girl is actually a bad person here. Her

905
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 3: dad is like an apartheid cop or something.

906
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember the details, cause that sounds right right, I'm.

907
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: Sure that was it. It was probably that her dad

908
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: was an apartheid cop.

909
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

910
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: Also, for the listeners that know Shady Simons work strange,

911
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: He's up like Colsey High very familiar.

912
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: No, no way, that's that's a.

913
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Whole other that was. It was on Discovery Kids, and

914
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: it was.

915
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: It was on Discovery.

916
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: It was low key. I guess it was kind of

917
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: was a rip off of Buffy because it was a

918
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: boarding school on top of a black hole and so strange.

919
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: That is a Buffy rip off. Well there's other there's

920
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: another Buffy Disney Channel connection because Miranda from Lizzy McGuire

921
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: Lalaine was in season seven of Buffy as one of

922
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: the potential Slayers who spoiler alert hunk herself.

923
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Yes, and then the first comes back and it's like

924
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: playing with them.

925
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

926
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: Just the the universe is just so is so complicated.

927
00:49:40,160 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: It is. So I watched Disney Channel, like, you know,

928
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: cause I'm like a firm millennial and so I watched

929
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: I guess what would be like the Golden Age, the

930
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: early years of Disney Channel. So I was watching when

931
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: That's So Raven was on Lindsay maguire, that kind of stuff,

932
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: and even then I was maybe like a smidge old

933
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: for it. So I missed the whole second generation where

934
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: Arianna was on it.

935
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: Who oh no, she was on the Nickelodeon jo for me,

936
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: trying to correct.

937
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 4: Who whoa whoa game Space y'all should have seen.

938
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: It was like, who oh, I forgot what show is that?

939
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: She was on Victorious and then got her own spin

940
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: off with Jeanett mccurty, Right, Jeanet mccurty of I'm Glad

941
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: my mother died Sammy Cap Wait, so we were were

942
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: the nick was Nickelodeon and Disney always at odds. I

943
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know they were at odds, but it was there

944
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: was almost like never any crossed over, like it was

945
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: unheard of to be able to dip into both ponds.

946
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: It was like DC and Marvel dead ass well actually is.

947
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: No, See there's been crossover with DC at Marble. I

948
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: guess with like X Men stuff.

949
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: No, x Men, yeah, x Men's Marvel. It was twentieth

950
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: century Fox. But no, it's Marvel. Oh I thought it was.

951
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Indeed, I thought it was momentarily in the DC universe.

952
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: No, we're here to educate, you.

953
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: Know, Well, I don't know anything about Marvel D.

954
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: I think the second gen was like Hannah Montana right, okay, hand.

955
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: Because Hannah Montana was my I have younger sisters who

956
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: were twenty and they used to watch Hannah Montana.

957
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Like Hannah Montana where there's a Bailey place with Selena gomet.

958
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I missed on. Are we team Selena here? Oh?

959
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely me Latina Rena. I'm and so. I also have

960
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: a younger sister, and I remember just every morning to

961
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: get like for her to like get ready, my mom

962
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: would have to play the Hannah Montana like see so

963
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: like I like was like a teenager boy, like like

964
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: pretending to like not enjoy hearing the best of both

965
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: worlds every single morning.

966
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: God, let me say, let me say that see you

967
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: again went triple platinum in my home?

968
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bops, bops.

969
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: Bob's my best friend.

970
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: Leslie said, Oh, she's just being Miley.

971
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Well, and you are, like Dolly pardon stands as everyone is,

972
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: especially the two of you. And I mean she is

973
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: on hand Montana.

974
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: Yes, she's famously Miley's godmother.

975
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 3: Well. I think also that that moment in Dolly's life

976
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: was like a kind of reinvigoration of her career because

977
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember where where I read this, but before Miley,

978
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: rather before being on like Miley's show and being her godmother.

979
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

980
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: The majority of Dolly's demographic was like over the age

981
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: of fifty, and when she got on Hannah Montana and

982
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: like had this kind of like new pivot in her life.

983
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: The other her demographic became majority under fifty.

984
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: We love I love us Churchy Queen.

985
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: You know Billy Ray Cyrus would suck.

986
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: No, but a dad wasn't the mailely place I would.

987
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know what he looks like.

988
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: On the record.

989
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 4: Are we going to talk about the most fuckable.

990
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: Dad the delves of Disney Channel?

991
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: Like rewinding now, I'm like, oh, the dads are hot.

992
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: The dad from Lisay McGuire is kind of hot in

993
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: a nerdy way. There was there were these kids that

994
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: I used to babysit for and their mom looked exactly

995
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: like the mom from Lisa McGuire, and it's always tripped me.

996
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: The fuck that's a really specific look. Yeah, and I

997
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: once had a sex droom about her as a teenager,

998
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: which is that I should have known then that I

999
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: was bisexual ahead of your time.

1000
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'm speaking of MILFs. Raven Simoney and Alex Vanderpoolt

1001
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 1: are back on Disney Channel as Mom's on Raven's Home. Yes,

1002
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: but do you know that Raven did you see that

1003
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: TikTok that was making the rounds where Raven said that

1004
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: she specifically asked for Raven not to be a Lesbie

1005
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: being in the sequel show, like she didn't want her

1006
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: and Chelsea to get together. So I thought she I

1007
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: thought Raven was kind of trolling people.

1008
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know.

1009
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: I don't think so that sounds like Raven to me.

1010
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was. She was like Raven the person

1011
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: and Raven the character are different people whoa I think

1012
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: she has some.

1013
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: Internal as homophobias.

1014
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, and speaking of Raven, it was a big moment

1015
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: for me when as Marie from America's Next Top Model

1016
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: British Invasion cycle, she was dating Raven Semonier. Oh you

1017
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: guys don't remember.

1018
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 4: No, I don't know this. I've never seen the British.

1019
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: So the queer woman who was actually a front runner

1020
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: of her cycle. But then she didn't want to use

1021
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: butt pads during the booty Tooch's video challenge. I think

1022
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: she low he got eliminated because of that, and then

1023
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: it was it broke.

1024
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: I support that.

1025
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: Wait, everyone had to use butt pads. They were required

1026
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 3: to use butt pads.

1027
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: When Tyro was teaching about botototoaching, So there was Smith

1028
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: and then.

1029
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: Teaching was the second wave of Tyra's second wave feminism.

1030
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm she made them like pad their

1031
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: but I mean maybe it.

1032
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: Was it was it was the pro BBL. Tyra Banks

1033
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: invented BL.

1034
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm but on Raven's home. So they aren't gay together,

1035
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: but they live in Chicago.

1036
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: Could be Also, it's wild.

1037
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 1: Because in the in the new series, Raven has two

1038
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: twin children and only one of them has visions. It's

1039
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: a recessive it's.

1040
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: A recessive gam If they lived in Chicago, they definitely

1041
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: lived in Andersonville.

1042
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: Let's say that.

1043
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: I think they are off the red line, so they

1044
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: probably are near Andersonville.

1045
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: Okay, great, great.

1046
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: What's that restaurant called with the with the Swedish meetball.

1047
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: And I wish I knew? Oh my god.

1048
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: It's wild because ra Chelsea's husband, the father of her child,

1049
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: is in jail because he embezzled her money that she

1050
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: got off of creating a mop that was like a lightsaber.

1051
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: That is the most Disney Channel ass plot, except for

1052
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: the prison part. That is, usually they don't they don't

1053
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: go there, Oh really they don't. That seems like something

1054
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: that they would employ all the time, because like, I

1055
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: think something that's in a lot of like Disney IP

1056
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: especially like d coms is that the parent is missing

1057
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and so there, I don't know, I

1058
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: figure they would just always put the Well, Raven's mom

1059
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: does disappear like halfway through the original series, remember.

1060
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: No, I didn't watch all the way through.

1061
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: And everyone was like, what happened to her?

1062
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: So she was in jail?

1063
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Well no, I think she like went to go do

1064
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: a grad program in London or same thing like that.

1065
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: Did you ever want to eat the Chill Girl was

1066
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the child Girl that was Raven's father's restaurant, Yeah, totally. Yeah,

1067
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: I want to see like a menu at the Chill

1068
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Girl Child Girl pop up?

1069
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chill Wings.

1070
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: Do things they serve Nicki minaj Wings, But the Childreners.

1071
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: Is there, like I kind of want to, like we've

1072
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: been like jumping all around. Is there like one that

1073
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: you could deep dive on, like or one that you

1074
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: just like would talk about forever?

1075
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it zeno On?

1076
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: Is it one of the first ones you mentioned or another.

1077
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: One in terms of movies, probably Xenon. I'm I just

1078
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: I love it because, like the idea of literally her

1079
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: being grounded. It's the smartest thing I ever heard. She

1080
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 1: gets she gets in trouble on a space station because

1081
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: she goes for a space walk, and then so her

1082
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: parents decide to ground her, Okay, send her to live

1083
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: with her her on Earth.

1084
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: Oh that is funny. Wow, that's clever.

1085
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: And then she gets bullied for being from Spain.

1086
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: So did everyone have a crush on Protozoa because I

1087
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 3: feel like that. I don't know, I don't remember how

1088
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: it came up or why. But I posted something on

1089
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: Instagram and I think I had blonde hair something. Everyone

1090
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: was like, you look like Protozoa and I was like, well,

1091
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. But also everyone was saying

1092
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: that that he was like a huge crush.

1093
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: He was like the hairy styles.

1094
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1095
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Well, because so the whole and the whole thing is

1096
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: that Protozoa is going to be the first pop star

1097
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: to perform in space on a on a space station.

1098
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: That xs from.

1099
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: When she was gonna go to space, which which is yeah.

1100
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: Looking back on it was that maybe a like Lance

1101
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: bas like wink wink.

1102
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the tips for sure, I mean.

1103
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then also I sing that song as a

1104
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: fucking bob zoom totally my heart go boom boom.

1105
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: There was there's some good music that came out of

1106
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Disney Channel universe.

1107
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh underrated when actually thinking of do you remember pixel Perfect?

1108
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: What's pixel perfect?

1109
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: So pixel Perfect is underrated? With the song are Bobs?

1110
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: So the premise is Ricky omen a fill the future fame.

1111
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: He decides to so his like best friend is in

1112
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: this band. It's kind of a flop because they like

1113
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: love like moody ballads. The essentially like the boy genius

1114
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: of the Disney Channel and he's like, okay, how do

1115
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: we like spice it up? So he creates a hologram

1116
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: using like all these images of different girls to be

1117
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: like this pop star and she debuts at like the

1118
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: School Talent Show and everyone's oh I.

1119
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: Do remember this?

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00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1121
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of music though, there always used to be those

1122
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: moments where they had, like when they were re releasing

1123
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: like the line King on VHS, they would have all

1124
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: the Disney Channel stars sing a cover of Circle of

1125
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: Life or something.

1126
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: The Disney Channel Circle of Stars?

1127
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: Is that what they.

1128
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: So that was like Disney Channel's like music arm. So

1129
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: they would get all these like Buzzy Disney Channel people

1130
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: to come in sing songs. So for I was gonna say,

1131
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: for Lord, I wish it was they had they had

1132
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: Circle and then it would just be Raven bars like.

1133
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: And it would play like during the commercials between episodes

1134
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: of That's Raven. And they also use them for other

1135
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: things like I was reminded recently of the weird Post

1136
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: nine to eleven p s as that they had them

1137
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: make where it was like the Disney Channel stars talking

1138
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: about terrorism and like basically like promoting like American nationalism.

1139
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: Was there songs involved? No, Okay, it was just them

1140
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: talk like having serious conversations about terrorism.

1141
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: Because then they had like Ta Tamara for One of.

1142
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: Those speaking of was Twitches Disney or Nickelodeon Channel, Disney Channel. Okay,

1143
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: Twitches is kind of iconic.

1144
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: Iconic and also what's her face? One of the their

1145
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 1: their like advisors was Jocelyn from Shit's Creek.

1146
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: Oh. I watched a lot of Twitches and some of

1147
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: Twitch's what's twitches to call it?

1148
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, twitches to t oh, which is just do it wow?

1149
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Their mine went there.

1150
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of them during a very long

1151
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: manicure where my manicure has just had it on.

1152
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: That actually a Pamberham No, it wasn't.

1153
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: Pamper Down's Unford was here in New York.

1154
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: It was based off.

1155
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 2: It was based on a book. Read the book?

1156
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: How are the books not good?

1157
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to imagine like what Disney's like musical arm

1158
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: like would look like, and I it just sounds like

1159
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: hollow and sad, like I'm imagining like Miley like shackle

1160
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: to a radiator.

1161
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because a lot of the girls they like

1162
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: tried to put like if they were popular on Disney Channel,

1163
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: they would try to give them a music career, like

1164
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: that's what happened with Hillary Duff.

1165
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: I also watched the opening sequence of Camp Rock and

1166
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: now I know, wow, I've never I've obviously never seen either,

1167
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 3: but like that was was that Demi's first movie?

1168
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: That was like Demie's intro, So it's preparing for this.

1169
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: I actually was watching clips. Are you are you all

1170
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: familiar with the Disney Channel games?

1171
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: No, it was like it's not like the Hunger Games.

1172
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: It was yeah, it was like that meets Survivor meets

1173
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: Disney Channels. So they put them on team. It was

1174
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: like the Olympics. And they had all these Disney Channel

1175
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: stars and then so Sabrina Bryant from Cheetah Girls, she

1176
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: has all these like old vlogs that you can like

1177
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: watch and it's like really the only bts like footage

1178
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: of the games, and Demi's like Demi's like in the bathroom,

1179
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: like getting ready with them, and seas like here's Demi,

1180
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: like like new to the channel, and it's like did

1181
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: you hear that? They're like showing camp Rock to press

1182
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: and it's like Sabrina's clearly a little bit older and

1183
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: like understands but presses and like all the other girls

1184
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: like what is going on anyways? And then so on

1185
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: the digital games they also meet, although Jonahs brothers Bee

1186
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: on different teams.

1187
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: Smart Yeah, yeah, so Jonahs brothers, that whole era, Jonah's brothers,

1188
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverley Place, Sweet Life of Zach

1189
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: and Cody. It's like just when I kind of moved

1190
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: on to more adult entertainment, not not in the poor anyway,

1191
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: it sounded like it, but didn't They all like crossovers

1192
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: were a big thing between the shows.

1193
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's the that's so Sweet Life of Hannah Montana,

1194
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: No and so it is that's a raven Sweet Life

1195
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: Hannah Montana crossover, and it's essentially it was trying them

1196
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: trying to redirect like attention to like new shows. So

1197
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: that was when Hannah Montana's first season I think, and

1198
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: so you know, that's a Raven was already really established.

1199
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: Sweet Life was like getting big already. And then so

1200
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: they were trying to get people to watch Hannah Montana

1201
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: and yeah there was and so they did, and so

1202
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: they and then there was one with Wizards Way Place,

1203
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: sweet Life on Deck and Hannah Montana again as.

1204
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, what's sweet Life on Deck?

1205
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: Is it that on on a ship?

1206
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: Yes? So after that the Sweet Life of Zack and

1207
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: Cody concluded. They then booted as Tidal and the mom are.

1208
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: Their careers, their careers and livelihood.

1209
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing one of those tiktoks.

1210
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: They really died.

1211
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: This morning, Like this is how I tell you.

1212
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: They relocate them onto a cruise ship and that was

1213
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: w Ryan's first big gig.

1214
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: She's the girlfriend the meme who's like, oh, the one

1215
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: that's like that Swinser hair, and then she's looking at

1216
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: the guy from My Lotus.

1217
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well me and Rose know him as the guy

1218
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: with the Magician. Yes, yes, we do.

1219
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh he was a magician. He was on The Magicians.

1220
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: Also a main character on Magicians or no, he was

1221
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: a side character. He was kind of kind of a

1222
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: running joke that he was lame.

1223
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1224
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: Also, High School Musical was a dcon.

1225
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: Originally and and did a theatrical release.

1226
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and gave us Vanessa Hudgens my queen.

1227
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: Well they you know, Diddy Channel loves a racially ambiguous

1228
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: Filpino woman.

1229
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 4: Disney Channel loves a racially ambiguous anything.

1230
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: Hudgens.

1231
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and gender ambiguo ambiguous.

1232
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: Honestly, I mean, right.

1233
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: Do you think Olivia Rio is gender ambiguous? Is that

1234
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: her next era?

1235
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 4: Honestly? I mean no, I think she's learned from.

1236
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: That's what Driver Lessons is actually about her changing gender

1237
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: mark change to an ex. I'm like, as much as

1238
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: I like idolized all those all them, I'm like, it

1239
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: definitely seems like it was like a cursed Chalice.

1240
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: You know, definitely are any of the DCM stars like

1241
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: good people now? Hillary Duff seems stable and happy.

1242
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: Love Younger, Oh.

1243
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: My god, I watched an episode of Younger last night

1244
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: because my best friend's watching it with his boyfriend, and

1245
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: I went over to his apartment and we watched an

1246
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: episode episode. The episode really go to the Hampton's book

1247
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: fair and Liza kisses Charles and Josh sees it and

1248
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: he was about to ask her to marry him.

1249
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, name CHARLINI Young Younger basically is like a Disney

1250
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: Channel show for adults. Yeah, it's Lizzie McGuire ended up

1251
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: working publishing.

1252
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, we need to do an episode of

1253
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: On Younger. No, Younger was incredibly important to me, I've heard.

1254
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: Also, I block out the fact that Matthew Morrison's on

1255
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: it and his whole bit is that he has a

1256
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: huge car and.

1257
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: Focks a goat. Yeah no he doesn't. He sucks a goat,

1258
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: a literal goat. Yeah.

1259
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: On Younger, Why.

1260
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: Because mister Shue jump scare. That's wild. Well you've never

1261
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: like you've never fucked a farm animal?

1262
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, no, totally normal thing, back to like well adjusted,

1263
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: didn't you? Bridget Medler, who I think was a little

1264
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: bit past our time, But she was in Lemonade now

1265
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: and then.

1266
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: She was in Beyonce's Lemonade.

1267
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: She plays the bad She is now just finished. I

1268
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: think a grad program, My Master program. I t oh,

1269
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: good for her, and not the tire Banks version, you know,

1270
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: like an.

1271
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: Actual real.

1272
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: Anybody else like Disney Stars nowadays.

1273
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: Well I did just do you see that clip of

1274
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Cody Sprouse.

1275
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: Codyrose on call her Daddy's smoke and a capri like

1276
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: like truly very weird person who it needs to go?

1277
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm a Riverdale stand so unfortunately I love Cole Sprouse.

1278
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: I love Brenda song very important to me. She now

1279
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: has a baby with Miccolay Culkin.

1280
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 4: Oh wait she does.

1281
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: They've been together for a while and now I didn't

1282
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: know that.

1283
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: Wow power couple.

1284
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah what I mean Brenda?

1285
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: Justice for Brenda. I feel like she disappeared and she

1286
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: never I mean she's doing stuff now, correct.

1287
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: You profiled her, filed her?

1288
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it was tied to Dolphe that Hulu

1289
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: show that was with her and Cat Dennings Shane Mitchell.

1290
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: But I like that one girl from it. Yeah, I

1291
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 2: follow her on TikTok.

1292
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: Did you see when he and Miranda Cosgrove got dinner together?

1293
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: No channel?

1294
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think also Brenda is excited

1295
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: to be a mom, and this seems like on social

1296
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. But great.

1297
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: If you could star in any Disney Channel show or

1298
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: original movie, which would it be mm.

1299
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: Hmm, like as a child or like the Hot Dolf

1300
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: as the Dolf. Okay, I would love to be back

1301
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: on like let's see, I'm trying to think which ones

1302
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: were shot on location?

1303
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: Now live somewhere in airless lightless like vacuu.

1304
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: Zineon you get to shoot in space.

1305
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: It actually would be fun to be on Raven. I think, yeah,

1306
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Speaker 1: like to have a child that has visions, you know,

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Speaker 1: and to be a small business owner. I would love that.

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Speaker 4: What would your what would your role be?

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Speaker 1: I would be I. I would open up, I would

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Speaker 1: be the hot deal if I think hopefully and or

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't even know. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're still in the age group of being cast as

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Speaker 1: sibling the brother on That's on Hannah Montana. I was

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Speaker 1: like thirty shout out, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, age, I'm sibling bookable.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, maybe I would be on the Sweet Life so

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Speaker 1: then I can like go do like hotel reviews at

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Speaker 1: like fancy hotels that aren't the Tipton Oh I love that.

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Speaker 1: And also Ashley Ashley Simpson Ashley Tisdall's cover of kiss

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Speaker 1: the girl from the Little Mermaid DVD release slaps No,

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Speaker 1: actually tis little so talented, she deserves fabulous, fabulous.

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Speaker 2: We need to put some respect on Ashley Tisdall's name.

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Speaker 2: She needs she needs.

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Speaker 1: To come back.

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Speaker 2: Slide into our DMS Like a Virgin four twenty sixty

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Speaker 2: back with an episode that, honestly, this entire podcast has

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Speaker 2: been building towards, we are going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: Madonna mother herself finally with like the gay Madonna expert

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Speaker 2: Lewis Hotel Finally, so you do not want to miss that.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, we will finally figure out how to get

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Speaker 3: sued by Madonna or our friends. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Utur until next week. Zita Slipidis me