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Speaker 1: it's probably not as complicated as you would think. Not

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Speaker 1: sure you know the answer to this, but do you

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Speaker 1: know how the sponsorships work for some of these fringe guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Quest, who most people had never heard of

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Speaker 1: the front of US hat and a DraftKings logo on

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Speaker 1: his sleeve. Is he making real money from those guys?

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Speaker 1: Just enough to cover his costs of the week? Generally curious? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the big brands. Remember when Bryson got a

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Speaker 1: Ludwig signed with Adidas like he got some coin hovelin.

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Speaker 1: When you see him wearing you know some of what

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Speaker 1: is it linkxol or, like those guys are making legitimate money,

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Speaker 1: and as a former tour player told me once, the

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Speaker 1: way it's usually paid is quarterly. A lot of it's

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Speaker 1: based on historically it's going to get kind of thrown

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Speaker 1: for a curveball here, but official world golf rankings, winning

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Speaker 1: can't even begin to guess. Maybe there's a minimum. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just one hundred grand right per deal. Maybe some

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Speaker 1: of the club manufacturers, when you're not a top one

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Speaker 1: hundred guy is more about just unlimited free stuff and

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Speaker 1: you have to earn it, kind of like a sales guy,

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Speaker 1: where like John Rahm right with Travis Matthews and Callaway.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's getting a guarantee. Let's just say I

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Speaker 1: had heard like ten million dollars a year. Rory obviously

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Speaker 1: a ton tiger, that those types make a ton peel.

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Speaker 1: But I think that even the guys like in the

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Speaker 1: it if you just play solid golf. We talked about

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Speaker 1: Ricky earlier. I mean I would imagine he makes a lot.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good question. On the lower tier guys,

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Speaker 1: I think you can't eventually lose the amount of money

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Speaker 1: think a lot of it's incentive based for guys like

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Speaker 1: that is from Noah following walking with Ludwig at the

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Speaker 1: John Deere, dude is gonna be a stud. I had

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Speaker 1: a buddy text me on Sunday. I was stranded in

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Speaker 1: San Louis because my kept getting delayed flying back from

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Speaker 1: the Central Coast, and He's like, God, Ludvig's pretty good looking. Dude.

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Speaker 1: If you're six foot three, six foot four, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a millionaire immediately at twenty three your golf career,

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Speaker 1: you are going to make serious coin. You talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy, if he has any swag at all, is

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Speaker 1: gonna crush you with the ladies, Ludvig, I would met

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Speaker 1: the house on Ludwig walking into a bar and not

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Speaker 1: having a rough time meeting a future girlfriend slash wife. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: big fan of the pot. I saw your tweet about

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Speaker 1: Ludwig and I'm in the same boat. He's an auto

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Speaker 1: bet for me every week to win outright. It's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of time. Dude's a stud. Let's end on that.

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Speaker 1: I am going to place money on him to win

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Speaker 1: the Scottish Open. Is he gonna win? Tough field a

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Speaker 1: lot of good players. I don't know. But I can

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Speaker 1: get a guy who, within a couple of years Ludvig

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Speaker 1: could be in all these tournaments every week twenty five

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Speaker 1: to one or better. I can get him basically fifty

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Speaker 1: to one if we think he's going to be what

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Speaker 1: he's going to be, if the hobblin comp is right,

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Speaker 1: if he's going to be an elite player, like he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the twenties in some events. In the

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Speaker 1: teams hell last week, I think he was twenty four

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Speaker 1: to One's the only reason I didn't bet him. I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't take him at that number. But you know

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Speaker 1: what pisses me off about my golf gambling. Three guys

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Speaker 1: I knew we're gonna win, Jason Day, Kegan Bradley, and

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Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler. Well, I always bet those guys when they

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Speaker 1: were longer odds. So Jason Day finally wins. He was

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Speaker 1: like eighteen to one. I'm like, I can't bet you.

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Speaker 1: Ricky finally won. Ricky I think was like fourteen to

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Speaker 1: one going in two weeks ago at the RBC Keegan

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Speaker 1: now was a legitimate longer shot. I think like fifty

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Speaker 1: to one when he won the Travelers. But I've been

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Speaker 1: adamant Ludvig's gonna win. I think Sagala eventually is gonna

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Speaker 1: win two. I'm just gonna hammer those guys. The Gala

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Speaker 1: is a little bit obviously more of a long shot

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Speaker 1: this week in terms of his odds, like ninety ninety

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Speaker 1: five to one, but Ludwig at fifty to one to

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Speaker 1: me is an immediate hammer boom. I'm hammering him. Have

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Speaker 1: a good week. Enjoy watching the Scottish Open. I love

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Speaker 1: a good golf tournament that's bright and early in the

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Speaker 1: morning Thursday through Sunday. You get up, especially if you're

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Speaker 1: on the West Coast, to have a cup of coffee

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Speaker 1: watch the little golf but exciting times. We got the

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Speaker 1: Open a week away and then basically football's here, so

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Speaker 1: let's rock and roll, get our sports watching on and

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Speaker 1: let's win some money. Come on, blud Vic. The volume