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Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir, How are you good? Have you heard

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Speaker 1: So yes, ty, I am very excited for Week eleven.

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Speaker 1: I am excited for I think we're gonna be getting

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Speaker 1: with autumnal vibes. Tie, a lot of foliage, that type

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Speaker 1: The first college football Playoff rankings were revealed on Tuesday evening.

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Speaker 1: They are as follows, number one Ohio State, number two, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: the same way as that Michigan team. But I don't

432
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: think anybody's counting on the Nitney Lions to throw all

433
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: that well against Indiana. That if they're going to have

434
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: success on offense, it's going to come on the ground,

435
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: and they're pairing that with a talented, you know, successful,

436
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: somewhat successful defense, that there is the potential for Penn

437
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: State to just muck it up but lose. The game

438
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: is in Happy Valley, which is you know, that's a

439
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: check mark for Penn State. So the potential of that

440
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: that Indiana, even running through their schedule last season, they

441
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: weren't winning by double digits every week, they weren't winning

442
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: by forty every week. This is not an Indiana team

443
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: that has a look ahead. This is not Indiana that

444
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: has a letdown. The only other thing that I'd be

445
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: concerned about in confidently picking Indiana because I don't see

446
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: a way for Penn State to score twenty four points

447
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: in this game, which I think is bare minimum. If

448
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: you have an outlandishly, a cartoonishly successful day defensively, I

449
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: still think you need to score twenty four points to

450
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: beat Indiana. Yea is Elijah Surratt beat up, Aiden Fisher's

451
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: beat up and they're down leave one of their interior

452
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in this game. So during this home stretch,

453
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: this schedule should not be a terrible challenge for Indiana,

454
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: But the challenge may be in replicating the production of

455
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: some of the guys who may be out or dinged

456
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: up and not playing as much. That Indiana's depth might

457
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: be tested in November and we'll just learn more about

458
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: what this Indiana team is from, Like a holistic standpoint.

459
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: But again, you got to get to twenty four if

460
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: you're playing cartoonishly well against Indiana and have a chance

461
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: to win this game. And I don't see it. I

462
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: don't see Penn State gett into twenty four. I think

463
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: they can get to between fourteen and seventeen. Thirty one

464
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: fourteen is where I landed in this one. I've got

465
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: thirty eight to fourteen. I think it's going to be

466
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: a score like we saw last week against Ohio State. Yeah,

467
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not. I'm not feeling like they're suddenly

468
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: going to find another gear that we haven't se yet.

469
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: I think they kind of are what they are. I

470
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: think most teams are what they are. When you get

471
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: to week eleven, and you know, it's clear that being

472
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: at home gives them something of advantage, but it's not

473
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: as great an advantage simply because the quarterback situation isn't great,

474
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: simply because the offense as a whole has never really

475
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: come together and found this next level that we had hoped.

476
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: Even the defense isn't as good as it was a

477
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: year ago. It's not really even close. You can move

478
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: the ball in Penn State. So the team as a

479
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: whole is worse than last year. The team as a

480
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: whole is hamstrung this year in ways that it wasn't

481
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: last year. They did start twenty four, by the way

482
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 1: against Iowa. Sure a good defense on the road. Yeah,

483
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: but look, I'm just I'm not feeling it for Penn State.

484
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: And it's not even a knock on Penn State. It's

485
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: just a weird season. It didn't work out playing under

486
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: an interim coach. You know, I would be surprised if

487
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: they keep this one within you know, ten points, to

488
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: be honest with you, that would be a real surprise

489
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: to me. I root for that. I'm wearing my Penn

490
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: State shirt here right now. But I thirty eight fourteen's

491
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: my final prediction. Yeah, I think Penn State probably needs

492
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: two defensive touchdowns or like a defensive touchdown and then

493
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: a punt return to the three yard line kind of situation,

494
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: like they need to be able to cheat the clock

495
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: to get points in a pretty major way. Short of

496
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: that difficult to see. But it's college football. It's a

497
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: big new game, right This is Gus and Joel, not

498
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Big Noon's Saturday. So there's not going to be the

499
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: fanfare that's I think Iowa Oregon. But you know, it's

500
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: still a big deal. It's still a big noon game,

501
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: It's still a big deal. I definitely think the crowd

502
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: will be into it. Agree.

503
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: I am just not.

504
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Of the mind that Penn State's got enough juice to

505
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: seriously challenge Indianna in this spot. But you know, I'd

506
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: be curious to see if Jim Knowles can scheme something

507
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: up to make Fernando Mendozo, who's been really good this

508
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: year and basically ironclad, but can they do something to

509
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: speed him up and make him a little bit more

510
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable than we've seen previously. I don't know, but I'm

511
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: gonna be looking for small tels like that hanging my

512
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: hat just as a Penn stater on some of those

513
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: points throughout the course of this game where it feels

514
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: like they are putting Indiana in new situations that they're

515
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: not ready for. Yeah, it'll be it'll be fun to watch,

516
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: hopefully for a good amount of time. I think that's true. Dan,

517
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: So again, your final score is thirty one fourteen, thirty

518
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: eight to fourteen for me. Yep, Let's move on. Let's

519
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: talk about number five Georgia minus seven and a half

520
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: on the road at Mississippi State. This one also at noon.

521
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: It's on the SEC network.

522
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight. Okay, here we are.

523
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: Georgia had a close win in a rivalry last week

524
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: against Florida. Can confirm they've got a monster game at

525
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: home against Texas next week.

526
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Sandwiched in the middle.

527
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: This is correct if only there were a term sandwich

528
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: right in the middle in between those two gigantic matchups.

529
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: Who got a little old team Missippi State. Mississippi State

530
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: is absolutely gonna have upset on the brain. They've had

531
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: three really big games at home thus far. Just to

532
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: refresh everyone's memory, they beat Arizona State, they lost to

533
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee in overtime. Most recently, they also lost to Texas

534
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: in overtime. Yes, they are a very tough out, I

535
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: would say just in general. But they are absolutely a

536
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: tough out when they're playing at home, there.

537
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: Are no two ways about it.

538
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: A long time ago on this show, we coined a

539
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: term called the letdown look ahead sandwich, Oh look at

540
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: dud sandwich.

541
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm so hungry.

542
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry. Oh boy, you could not have scripted

543
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: this matchup any more.

544
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: To be the original definition.

545
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Of a letdown, look ahead sandwich correct. With all that

546
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: being said, how do we feel about Georgia Misissippi State.

547
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: I really like Mississippi State here, I really really do.

548
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Even last year when they were like abominably bad, they

549
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: gave Georgia a game for a good chunk of that.

550
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: And that was with a freshman, right. That was MVB

551
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: last year from Mississippi State.

552
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: The Van Buren Boys.

553
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Van Buren Boys. The defense has been fixed

554
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: to an impressive extent all things considered to where they

555
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: were last season. They're moving the ball with Blake shape,

556
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: and I think they have one of the more underrated

557
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: receiver duos and Brennan Thompson and Anthony Evans good amount

558
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: of speed there. A weird ugly win, but a win

559
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: nonetheless against Arkansas last week when Arkansas had eighteen penalties.

560
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot of penalties, a lot of potatoes, right.

561
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna play forgot to keep going.

562
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: So Mississippi State's on the board. I think situationally it's

563
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: a good spot. It's always tough to play in Starkville.

564
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: The weather is going to be Good's down. I think

565
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: a couple of dudes either in rotation or starting in

566
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: the middle of their defense. Georgia has more talent, but

567
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: there is something I think gettable still about Georgia's defense.

568
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: So the line at recording is what ty The line

569
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: is seven and a half. By the way the TPS report,

570
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: the real points for the ties points bread is Georgia

571
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: minus four. Fyi, Okay, I did this week. We're formula

572
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: in time for this week, and I think it's going

573
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: to be better. Okay, that's where I'm sitting. I could

574
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: see absolutely. I mean, the easiest pick here is Georgia's

575
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: offense is ugly, but they get it together enough of

576
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: an extent late to win this one close. Because that's

577
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: Georgia's entire season. I think that's what will be on Saturday.

578
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm going Georgia here thirty to twenty seven.

579
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

580
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: I think Georgia pulls it out just because they've been

581
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: nails late and Mississippi State hasn't been able to finish

582
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: in these big moments against Texas against Tennessee. I'm taking

583
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Georgia to win barely. I mean, something that was boun

584
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: around in my head and I was trying to make

585
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: sense of this game. Georgia finds ways to win close games,

586
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: but Mississippi State finds a way to create them. Yeah,

587
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: to make them close. Yeah, you know, and there's some

588
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: value in that too. And I think Mississippi State. We

589
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: had somebody ask me, you know, why do I keep

590
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: saying that Mississippi State's one of the best stories in

591
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: college football. They had a three and a half over under.

592
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: They were projected to be the worst team in the SEC,

593
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: and with some of the moves that they made, I mean,

594
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: there was really no guarantees that this was going to

595
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: be a better team than we saw ye ago. Certainly,

596
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: the schedule has not done them any favors. It's been

597
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: a tough schedule, and I think that they have done

598
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: a really really good job building this roster, building this team.

599
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: They are never out of a game. They are a

600
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: tough out. They're absolutely a tough out. And yes, some

601
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: of they're not all of there, even not most of there,

602
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: but some of their defensive numbers are marginally better than Georgia's,

603
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, like overall, george is still better. But like

604
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: EPA per play and points per drive allow some of

605
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the nerd stats that you and I like to look at.

606
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Both of those favor Mississippi State by a note. So

607
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: it's not a bad team, it's not a bad defense.

608
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: They haven't been out of a game in the fourth quarter. This, no, no, no.

609
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: And so even the A and M game they were

610
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter Florida, they were right there. They

611
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: lose by two, and then the games we already mentioned continue.

612
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you gave me this matchup one hundred times,

613
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I would probably take Georgia. Yeah, ninety five of them. Wow,

614
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: this isn't to say that maybe not that many, but

615
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: like the overwhelming majority. I would take Georgia because Georgie

616
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: is a better team. But I think situationally, given where

617
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: this game falls, given the fact that this could be

618
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: a de facto national championship ish situation, I mean, Mississippi

619
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: State still has Ole Miss to close out the year

620
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: in the Egg Bowl, that'll be a big one. But

621
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: this is a really, really prime opportunity for Mississippi State

622
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: to influence the college Football playoff, to influence the SEC

623
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: title race. So I've got Georgia winning, but thirty eight

624
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: to thirty four something in that neighborhood. I think you

625
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: and I are kind of like minded in that this

626
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: one could end up being close because Mississippi State finds

627
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: a way to make these games close. By the way,

628
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, this is a nugget that may only interest

629
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: me in you. Mississippi State this season has faced the

630
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: defense Sam Levitt, Joey Aguilar, Marcel Reid, DJ Lagway, Arch Manning,

631
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: and Taylan Green. Their defensive performance in terms of points

632
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: per drive allowed is identical to Georgia's performance. Yep, points

633
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: per drive allowed identical given after the disastrous nature of

634
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: their defense last season, that just underscores your broader point

635
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: of just the step forward that they've taken this year.

636
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Their defense is identical to Georgia's this year with those

637
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks faced pretty impressed. I believe I looked at your

638
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: d analytics before jotting this down, and Georgia's allowed something

639
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: like two points per drive and Mississippi State has averaged

640
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: something like one point ninety nine. It is basically, oh yeah,

641
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: basically the same. Great, this will be a fun matchup.

642
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, we could be way off here, but

643
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: we both tend to agree here.

644
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: In the Mississippi State plus the points.

645
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to three point thirty ABC, it is number

646
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: three Texas ay and M minus seven on the road

647
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Speaker 1: at number nineteen Missouri, the TPS report is A and

648
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: M minus seven as well, so it seems to be

649
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: some alignment there on the Missouri side. We've got Matt Zohlers,

650
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: the freshman. He is going to get the start for

651
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: the injured bau Pribula, who is down for the year

652
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: or at least most of the year. Near you, right,

653
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: he's from near you. Matt Zohlers is from Royersford. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

654
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: so's he's from like sort of outside. Saying outside Philly

655
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: is making it sound like it's closer to Philly than

656
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: it is, but it's within like an hour of Philadelpia.

657
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. And bau Purbula is from York, which

658
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: is a little bit farther west. So these are two

659
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: PA guys that are steering the ship at the quarterback position,

660
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, outside of Sam Horn down there at Missou.

661
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: So Eli Drinkwitz loves his Pennsylvania quarterbacks, say, and I

662
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: interest you there were there were pictures of him when

663
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: he was younger wearing a penn State shirt. Maybe, oh man,

664
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: if you're playing the coaching carousel game. Celibrable dot Com

665
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: slash carousel. Yeah, maybe something to consider guys actively trying

666
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: to influence the market.

667
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I would I would gladly take Eli Drinkwitz.

668
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: Okay, continue. I thought Matt Zolers looked okay two weeks

669
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: ago against Vandy.

670
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought he looked capable.

671
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: And I read some of the comments that the coaching

672
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: staff had about Matt Zohlers and some of the comments

673
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: that his teammates had about him. They're not going to

674
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: try to dumb down the playbook. They're not necessarily adding

675
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of new wrinkles. But he's not a runner

676
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: in the way bopribula. No.

677
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: But they but they feel like they can do a

678
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 2: lot of the same stuff.

679
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Okay, they're not taking stuff out of the playbook, which

680
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I think is a testament to how much confidence they

681
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: feel in this guy.

682
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: I thought he looked good.

683
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Now this would be a tough ask of him. And

684
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: I think the question that I want to see is

685
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: can they throw? Can they throw on A and M?

686
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: If they want to have any chance of winning this game,

687
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: they got to throw on A and M because they've

688
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: got a good enough rushing attack with a mod hardy,

689
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: which is where A and M is vulnerable by the way,

690
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: which is where Yeah, but only if there is some balance,

691
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, if it's a one dimensional attack, and if

692
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Mike Elco and that defensive staff can simply stack the

693
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: box and stop a mod hardy that way, then it's

694
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: ballgame them.

695
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Zoo doesn't have a chance. This is why they need

696
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: to throw. If they can throw, if.

697
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: They can establish some element of balance here, then I

698
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: think that gives them a fighting chance. But the one

699
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: dimensional thing is not going to get it done right.

700
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: I would not bet this game. I think there's a

701
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: good chance it's slow and ugly and right around that

702
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: seven number that I mentioned Earl. I do trust A

703
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: and M more here, and I think ultimately they get

704
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: the job done. So you know, if I'm forced to pick,

705
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: I probably got A and M something along the lines

706
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: of thirty one twenty four ish, thirty one to twenty ish.

707
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: But I would not bet this game with any actual

708
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: American coin. No, I understand where you're coming from. I

709
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: like ANM here, just because if you're gonna put on,

710
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: if you're gonna dot, don your cap, doff, don don

711
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: your cap. As the engineer of the Underthink Express, it's

712
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: basically you get Mike Elco, an incredible pass rush and

713
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: arguably the best third down defense in America taking on

714
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: a freshman quarterback.

715
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

716
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: And for whatever potential mats Ollers has and will even

717
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: show in this game, it's man. This seems got blown

718
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: out last year with an experienced quarterback when we thought

719
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: positive vibes about Maszoo and they got ripped limb from limb,

720
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: and I think that was it was out a Marcel

721
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Reid game. I think that was a Connor Wigman game. Yes, yep.

722
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: But even still, there is something about where this defense is.

723
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: They're going to stack the box and make Zolers beat them.

724
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: They have not been a team who, even with Bo Brabulah,

725
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: has been popping them downfield successfully. I just think it's

726
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: going to be more challenging even at home. I have

727
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: A and M winning this game by seventeen seventeen. Yeah,

728
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: I have them comfortably winning. I just if Matt Zolers

729
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: is not an already game changing quarterback, it's just very

730
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: difficult to see him leading an offense to get to

731
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: the point where they can score I don't know, twenty

732
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: four points against A and M. No, so it's a

733
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: tough road environment, and it goes against my rubric of

734
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, this is what a dog at home with

735
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: a good defense, right, But they're without their starting quarterback,

736
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: and change is a little bit of my rubric calculus.

737
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they win by a couple of touchdowns.

738
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: Plus I am still in on Texas A and I

739
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: am very much so in the SEC. I love this team.

740
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be a force if they

741
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. I mean, they're going to be

742
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: a really tough out just because of the way they

743
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: play offense and because they're so physical on defense. But

744
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say this again because you know,

745
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: tiebreakers are something of a novelty for me this time

746
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: of year. If A and M were to drop one

747
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 1: along the way, whether it's this one against Maszoo, whether

748
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: it's against Texas Slate, doesn't have to be both.

749
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: But just those are the two biggies, Yeah, those are

750
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: the two biggies with it, they just drop one of them.

751
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: The tiebreaker math is not necessarily in their favor just

752
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: because of all the different variables that come into play here. Okay,

753
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: so I want A and M to win this game.

754
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I want A and M to win out because I

755
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: have been rooting this team on. I like Mike Elko,

756
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I like this team a lot. I'm just saying again,

757
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: keep that on the back of your mind, probably like

758
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: two weeks away from really having to paid too much

759
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: attention to it. Just know that I've started paying attention

760
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: to it back at like the early part of October,

761
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying right now, that's something that is

762
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: very much on my radar. Yeah, this will be by

763
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: the way, what these quarterbacks are able to do with

764
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: their feet. We know Marcel Reid is proven in that department.

765
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: These quarterbacks will be staring down the two of the

766
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: best five or six pass rushes in America. Yes, in

767
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: this game. So footwork, scrambles, improvising, seems like it's going

768
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: to be huge. And I don't even you know, I

769
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: like these offensive lines, fine, I really like Texas A

770
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: and M's but even still, these are two lines that

771
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: are going to be collapsing pockets. They are going to

772
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: be making life hell in the backfield, it seems. And

773
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: both off of a bye as well, both off of

774
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: a bye seven point thirty ABC LSU unranked. What that

775
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: doesn't sound right? Fact check that on the road at

776
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: number four Alabama, Alabama is a ten point favorite. Dan, Wow,

777
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: that's a lot of potatoes.

778
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Play it again, man.

779
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: So this is a good matchup, right, This is one

780
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: that we normally look forward to this weekend every single year.

781
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: We all remember that nine to six matchup back in

782
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, probably when about half of our listeners were

783
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: ten years old, so showing our age a little bit here,

784
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: but that was a game we all remember that being

785
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: a close game. LSU has only won this matchup twice

786
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: since then, and when they do it's by a couple points.

787
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: On the flip side, Alabama's won this one a bunch

788
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: of times, and most of the time when they do

789
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: it's by like two scores.

790
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: Comfortably.

791
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: They have scored forty two points in each of the

792
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: last two matchups over the last two seasons against LSU.

793
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: I would be surprised, frankly if they did it again,

794
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: since LSU is at least better on defense this time around.

795
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: But we can't rule anything out. We don't know the

796
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: headspace for LSU.

797
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: They just lost a coach making some changes. What is

798
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: the morale going to be like? In Baton Rouge I

799
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: don't know. Right.

800
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, the TPS report has this one

801
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: at BAMA minus thirteen. Just again, even more potatoes. Here

802
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: is my curiosity for you. My curiosity is this, They

803
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: made a coaching change at LSU. Yeah, as far as

804
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I can tell, Yes, it wasn't just Brian Kelly. It

805
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: was also Joe Sloan, the offensive coordinator, Alex Atkins.

806
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: Remember that name?

807
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I do Florida State? Yep. Alex Atkins, who was a

808
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: tight ends coach, is going to be a new play

809
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: caller for LSU this week. Obviously, as you just mentioned,

810
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: he's got some experience as an offensive coordinator, was mostly

811
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: successful at Florida State before the twenty four campaign, which

812
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, other than that, how is the play

813
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: missus Lincoln? Yeah? Other than right, Other than that, everything

814
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: was pretty good in his tenure at Florida State.

815
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: He since moved on, you know, he's at LSU now.

816
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Is there any chance that given the switch at play caller,

817
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe a quick switch of culture. I don't know if

818
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: that's even possible. Is there a chance we could see

819
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: a better version of the LSU offense and Saturday Night

820
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that maybe could challenge Alabama in a game like this man,

821
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: Normally I would say no, just because Alabama's excellence is

822
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: pretty obvious on offense and defense. They don't run the

823
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: ball that well, hasn't mattered that much, and they've dealt

824
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: with some injuries. Of course, there is the abf of it, although, Ty,

825
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: that's the after Brian factor. Yeah, how long did it

826
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: take before those stories kept coming out and coming out

827
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: and coming out where it was like, here's what it

828
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: was like behind the scenes at LSU under Brian Kelly.

829
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: It was a lot of people who are like, no,

830
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: I will definitely go on the record to talk about

831
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: how much I don't like Brian Kelly. You know what

832
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: it reminds me of with Brian Kelly, And we've seen

833
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: this a couple times now. You know, whatever he leaves

834
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: a place, the stories come out almost immediately. How much

835
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: time you got is basically what everybody's response was. It's

836
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: like when The New York Times has an obituary pre

837
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: written correct and as soon as somebody passes, they just

838
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: fill in the details, the date, at the time, the

839
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: cause of death, and they're ready to hit publish almost immediately.

840
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: That's how it feels when BK leaves a place, and

841
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: you start getting these post wartems that come out with,

842
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: as you said, people who are ready willing and able

843
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: to go on the record. It was like I had

844
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: no relationship with him. I don't think he knew my

845
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: name when I got, you know, sick and was in

846
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: the hospital. He never even reached out at all. It

847
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of that, And so I think there

848
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: is an after Brian factor. I think Shoulders might be

849
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: a little bit looser, a little bit more relaxed. Do

850
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: you disagree? No, I don't. I this is why I

851
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: asked the question to be honest with you. Yeah, I

852
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: don't love I don't love this offensive line any more

853
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: than where it's played this season. I don't love the

854
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: lack of balance on offense, especially given the talent at

855
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: running back that LSU definitively has. It's just the running

856
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: game and the blocking haven't been there, and the balance

857
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: and the play calling hasn't been there. I have LSU

858
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: covering this game, okay. I have the emotion of this game,

859
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: LSU rising to the moment enough that they're able to

860
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: make this interesting. We have not seen a bulletproof Alabama

861
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 1: team this year. And I'm not even counting Florida State,

862
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: but you know, Vanderbilt played them tough for most of

863
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: that game. Obviously, South Carolina was in line to beat Alabama.

864
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: This hasn't been a team that has controlled four quarters

865
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: every week. And that's okay, it's college football. That's an

866
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: unrealistic expectation. But I think here LSU has the opportunity

867
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: to get to like high teens around twenty and I

868
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: don't see Alabama scoring more like I think the A

869
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: and M game was an outlier in terms of performance

870
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: for LSU, which is why they made the change. They

871
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: were up, they played well, they turned over Marcel read

872
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: in that first half. They did a good job situationally,

873
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: they did. So I have I have bamahir twenty seven

874
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty seven to twenty be a great game.

875
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm really a good game here, I really am. I mean,

876
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm taking the points. I root for good, close games

877
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: all the time. There's also, by the way, I know

878
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm jumping in once again, like you work in a

879
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: basement all day. I work in a basement all day.

880
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: I lean into the fact that I work in a basement,

881
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: not getting around it. You've had bad days in your life.

882
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: I've had bad days in my life. One of the

883
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: best things you can do if you're stressed out, if

884
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: things are chaotic around you, if you're having a bad day,

885
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: you gotta go for a walk. You gotta get outside.

886
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: You need some fresh air. Things are chaotic in Baton Rouge.

887
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: I love that this game is on the road for Lsu.

888
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: I love that they're getting on a plane, they're getting

889
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: on a bus, they're staying in a hotel. I think

890
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: that's great for the Tigers, that they can get away

891
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: from the noise. Should we have a new segment called

892
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: Real Talk with Dan Rubinstein, Real Talk with Dan Robinstein,

893
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Get Outside, Colin, Real Talk with Dan Rubers, Get Outside.

894
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: I hear you. Look, I'm my curiosity is whether or

895
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: not the thing is real the after Brian factor. Yeah,

896
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: and if Alex Atkins can find something with this offense

897
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: that Joe Sloan didn't go love that. I don't know.

898
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm just it's fair to ask the question, though, right.

899
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I've got thirty three to twenty Alabama. Okay,

900
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: so maybe it's twenty seven to twenty and then there's

901
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: like a late score of late pairing of field goals

902
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: or something, but front I've got it at a thirteen

903
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: point spread in favor of Obama because that's what the

904
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: computer said. The TPS support, I think, with the proper modifications,

905
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: was actually quite close last week. Okay, well, I'm going

906
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: to need the cold hard data. I'm going to see

907
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: what the TPS model. I still I still am trying

908
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: to figure out a way that I can present this

909
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: visually to you and others, because I owe that to

910
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: the baller hood, right if I first need to get

911
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: the model in a point where it's you know, respectable. Okay, okay,

912
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: fair enough.

913
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: Let's go rapid fire through a few other games that

914
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: are going on.

915
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Okay, please, okay, yep. This Big ten network four thirty,

916
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: it is number twenty four Washington and eleven and a

917
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: half point favorite on the road at Wisconsin, Dan, who

918
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: you got, oh man? If Wisconsin had shown anything offensively

919
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: up to this point, I would love Wisconsin here, just

920
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: because Washington has struggled so much on the road under Jedfish.

921
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: It just hasn't been And I don't what's the weather,

922
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: by the way, this dagonmaticity, you're the weather, Come on, TI,

923
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: I am the Okay, I mean I took a meteorology

924
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: class up at Penn State. How'd you do? I degreed

925
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: it was an awesome course.

926
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: Love it?

927
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Well, that qualifies you.

928
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: I love meteorology.

929
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: What time is four? Kickoff? Four thirty? Okay? It looks

930
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: like four thirty PM, A little bit of light rain

931
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: in the thirties, low forties. Okay, So so that won't

932
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: be a foreign situation for Washington. It will not be

933
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: a foreign situation for Washington. I'm taking Washington just because

934
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Wisconsin offensively struggles to score double digits, like off full

935
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: struggle to score digits, and Washington's defense is not good

936
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: at all. But I just if I'm gonna choose one

937
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: thing in this game to feel confident in despite a

938
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: lack of performance, it's probably gonna be Washington's defense over

939
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's offense. So what's the number again? Eleven? Eleven and

940
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: a half, eleven and a half points. Yeah, I think

941
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: Washington's this game thirty to ten.

942
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

943
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: We did have an application come through twenty seven ten,

944
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: twenty four to ten, I don't know, somewhere between twenty

945
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: four and thirty points to ten.

946
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: We had an application come through.

947
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh tortured fan base. We had an application come through

948
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: for somebody who wants to test out my jinxing prowess

949
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: with respect two locks of the week. Oh nice, it

950
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: comes to us from Aaron Quote. My proposed lock is

951
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: a Washington victory and cover over Wisconsin. The motivation for

952
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: the application is that my mom, a devoted Badger fan,

953
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: deserves to see at least one power for win this year.

954
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: I've betrayed my mother when it comes to her Badgers.

955
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: I would like to start making amends. Growing up, she

956
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: took me to Mini Badger and other sporting events, and

957
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: she's the reason I'm a big sports fan. Instead of

958
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: attending you dub just down the street from home, I

959
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: chose Ohio State Good Lord, which was both a long

960
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: drive away and the nemesis of her Michigan based family. Unfortunately,

961
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: I also dismissed her concerns about Luke Fickles. Since you're one,

962
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: give him time. Look at what he accomplished at Cincinnati.

963
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: I kept repeating, well, this application is my olive branch

964
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: to say that, as usual, my mom was right all along.

965
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: We're doing this one for you. Aaron, Okay, Look of

966
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: the week.

967
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: Washington minus eleven and a half lock. It up, Dan Rubinstein, whoaw,

968
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: so you have it up baby aggressively Pacific Northwest with

969
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: your week eleven locks Oregon and Washington on the road

970
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: is a double test of ties jinks. By the way,

971
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: Aaron also submitted her receipt of a twenty five dollars

972
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: donation to Locks of Love see the mega official put

973
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: her money where her mouth is. Yeah, thank you, eron,

974
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: good on you. We'll see if it works. Okay, I'm

975
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: doing my part. Seven PM ACC Network Florida State at Clemson.

976
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Clemson is a two point favorite. Yeah uh yeah. So

977
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: this game is not what we thought it was going

978
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: to be at the start of the year. Not at all.

979
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: This looked like this is going to be a big

980
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: one for the ACC. Maybe playoff implications as it stands

981
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: right now, Mike Norvel very much on the hot seat,

982
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: and also something that has sort of phone under the radar.

983
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Clemson is five losses, Dan, they do. They have five

984
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: losses and the remaining three games are Florida State at

985
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: home and then Louisville and South Carolina, both of which

986
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: are on the road. Yeah. I don't want to be

987
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: all dooming gloom here. By the way, that Louisville game,

988
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: I believe is short week on the road, short week

989
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: on the road. That's right on a Friday night. Yeah.

990
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: I am not trying to be dooming gloom. I am

991
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: not trying to be sensationalist. There is a non zero chance,

992
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: actually a legit chance, that Clemson finishes four in eight, Yeah,

993
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: which would be madness. Madness given the starting point, like

994
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: most returning production in the country, they went on that

995
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: run at the end of last year, then they won

996
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: a playoff.

997
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: Game, a four and eight season on the heels of

998
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: all that. I mean, somebody's got to ask Dabbo questions

999
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: about that.

1000
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh, they do every week. He just went off, But

1001
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: someone's got to ask the administration about that, okay, Like,

1002
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: is that okay? Are we I'm not advocating a firing

1003
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: or anything. I've seen some of the entries that already

1004
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: come into our game. People are protecting that, and a

1005
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: non zero amount of people are projecting that Clemson could open.

1006
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily buy that, but would definitely be a

1007
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: black guy given the starting point has there been. I

1008
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: don't want to go down like a long Clemson road

1009
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: here just because they've been disappointing and I don't want to,

1010
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, beat a dead horse kind of thing. Sure, sure,

1011
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: has there been a coach to pull a program out

1012
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: of this after the Heights, Clemson had to fall to

1013
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: this depth in terms of everybody questioning his ability as

1014
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: a coach now right, his hires, his scheme, his practices,

1015
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: whether they're do with you know, like nil and portal stuff,

1016
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: his stances about the modern game. Like I'm trying to

1017
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: think of a coach. We've seen coaches decline after winning

1018
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: national championships, guys like I mean, we've seen coaches get

1019
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: fired two years after winning a national championship, but like

1020
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: guys who were like legends at you know, Mac Brown

1021
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: at Texas, you know, Bobby Bowden at Florida State, that

1022
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: they just they couldn't pull their program back out of

1023
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: the muck. And I feel like we are just sort

1024
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: of entering something pretty ugly. Considering where Clemson has has

1025
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: been this season. They haven't been a bad program. They've

1026
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: competed for the AEC, they've won the ACC recently. But

1027
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be the special year. It was

1028
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: it was, and look, you know, I think the point

1029
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: of comparison is always Saban everybody thinks Saban right away,

1030
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: But Saban was a black Swan. Yeah, you know, Saban

1031
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: was the best coach to ever do it in college football.

1032
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: And I think it is much more common that you've

1033
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: got a situation like at Clemson, where you've got a

1034
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: coach who's been there a while, who's been very, very successful, right.

1035
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't take that away from dab Alwa's

1036
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: been great, but it doesn't last forever. None of the

1037
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: stuff lasts forever, and it clearly has not lasted at Clemson.

1038
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: Now.

1039
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: It's been made worse by the fact that they lost

1040
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: Briant westco for the year back injury, which is a

1041
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: pretty big blow to the offense. An offense, by the way,

1042
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: that already had some issues. Didn't stop them from scoring

1043
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: forty five last week, but clearly he was a big

1044
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: part of the offense, a trusted name out wide. I

1045
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: don't know where it goes from here for Clemson. I

1046
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: don't know where it goes here from here for Florida State,

1047
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: but this is a very interesting matchup that I think

1048
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: could help dictate the terms moving forward for both of

1049
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: these schools. Florida State is four and four for their part,

1050
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: all four of the losses were by one score. Yes,

1051
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: I actually think Florida State is the better team right now.

1052
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: I think they're better on offense. I think they're better

1053
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: on defense. I don't think it's by a wide margin.

1054
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: I think this will be a good game. I think

1055
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: there's a reason why there's a two point spread on

1056
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: this one here. But I've got Florida State winning this

1057
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: one outright in Death Valley twenty seven to twenty four.

1058
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: At night, I had it twenty eight to twenty three. Yeah,

1059
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: I think Farida wait as well Florida State. Yeah, I

1060
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: just Clemson hasn't been winning these games. Clebni had a

1061
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: really nice game last.

1062
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: Week, again really in a losing effort.

1063
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: In a losing effort. They haven't been closing these games.

1064
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: And so if I think it's going to be reasonably close,

1065
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: not that Florida State has been a game, you know,

1066
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: a game closer, either, but at least it seems like

1067
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of momentum after beating Wake last week,

1068
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: beating him down by the way, big week for Thomas Castellanos.

1069
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Florida State to win by four

1070
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: or five here. Yeah, and let me, let me just

1071
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: say this, and then again, we got all these games,

1072
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: we got to rip through them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a like,

1073
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I am not over here saying that they should fire

1074
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Dabbo or that he should retire or anything like that.

1075
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I am more than anything,

1076
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: very curious to see how Clemson as a program, as

1077
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: an administration deals with this situation, because, frankly, we saw

1078
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: what happened at a Penn State very itchy trigger finger

1079
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: right to move on from James Francott. It's not exactly

1080
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: the same situation like they got at Clemson, but it

1081
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: is another situation where there's a program kind of spinning

1082
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: its wheels. There's a, I think an open question about

1083
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: where it goes from here. What's the trajectory right to

1084
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: use pat craftswords. I'm I don't know what Clemson does

1085
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know what Dabo does, but this has

1086
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: not been a good year and the starting point was

1087
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: really high.

1088
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a bummer across the board.

1089
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Great seven pm ESPN Wake Forest at Virginia, Virginia is

1090
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: a seven point favorite.

1091
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: Here are you confident in Virginia covering seven? I guess week.

1092
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: Long travel week going to and from Berkeley last week,

1093
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: a nice win there, barely getting by North Carolina, like

1094
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Virginia's winning close. What did I called their excavators? Yep,

1095
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: just like a couple other programs, figuring out ways to

1096
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: dig out a win. Is Virginia an LRO team for you?

1097
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: At some point this year? Though?

1098
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the luck runs out for Virginia

1099
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: or are they not that kind of team? Are they

1100
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: just a scrappy team that is comfortable being down in

1101
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: the mud and the blood and the beer. Buddy, they've

1102
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: already got to how many wins they've already gotten eight wins?

1103
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: Got eight wins?

1104
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter if they lose out. Virginia getting

1105
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: to eight wins is already a huge success. It's going

1106
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: to be disappointing if they lose out. So yes, I

1107
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose one of these next two games

1108
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: against Wake at home or at Duke. I think that's

1109
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: the likeliest outcome that they're gonna split these two. I

1110
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: think they'll be okay against Wake. I like the Virginia defense,

1111
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing that Virginia does terribly where you feel

1112
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: like they're getting lucky Now, if we say winning is

1113
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: a skill, Virginia is not distancing themselves from basically anyone.

1114
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: They're winning a bunch of close games, which is good.

1115
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: It's better than losing close games obviously. I just don't

1116
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: like Wake's offense that much. So I think Virginia and

1117
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: their ability to close out games can win a low

1118
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: scoring game ugly. So I have Virginia winning this game

1119
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. So I guess covering Wake Forest covering, right, Yeah, Yeah,

1120
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: I've got this one in the computer at Virginia minus ten,

1121
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: and I think I had Virginia minus ten last week

1122
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: against Cal and I sort of did they lost it,

1123
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: but I went with it and they did. They won

1124
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty one, so I'm gonna stick with

1125
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: it again. I've got this one a little higher scoring.

1126
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm still not crazy sold on the Who's but they're

1127
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: doing it like they're finding ways to get it done.

1128
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: Let's go thirty eight. Twenty eight, by the way, a

1129
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: little bit not the sort of stage of Mississippi State.

1130
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: Georgia necessarily let down look Ahead Sandwich here as well,

1131
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: just because of the travel against Cal. I don't think

1132
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Cal's all that good right now and having the big

1133
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: matchup on the road against Duke next week. Just in

1134
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: terms of the ACC race, it seems like a letdown.

1135
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Look ahead spot Okay, interesting, Yeah, seven thirty NBC Navy

1136
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. Notre Dame a healthy favorite, twenty six

1137
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: and a half points. Dan, Anything you want to say

1138
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: about this game. I always try and talk myself into

1139
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: a good Surface Academy team against Notre Dame, and it

1140
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: very very rarely works out for that Service Academy. Just

1141
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: because I think Notre Dame had their off week. I

1142
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: think they had their clunker last week. I think it's

1143
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: a get right situation. They should be able to score plenty,

1144
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: they should be able to get off the field on defense.

1145
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: I see it as a sort of typical game for

1146
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame against you know, Navy, Army, whoever that after

1147
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: a quarter it's like, oh god, we'd seven to six

1148
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: and then it opens up. So I have this as

1149
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame thirty one thirteen. I think Notre Dame wins.

1150
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: It covers this point spread. Okay, I think you're right.

1151
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: I think offensively they should be able to do mostly

1152
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: whatever they want against Navy. It's whatever they want to

1153
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: work on. I think they're better across the board. It

1154
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: will be an interesting test for their run defense. I

1155
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: want to see how their run defense looks. And it

1156
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if we see a few moments in

1157
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: this game where Navy's able to make some hay on

1158
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: the ground.

1159
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: That's just what Navy does and they're very good at it.

1160
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: So I think they will ask some new questions of

1161
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame defensive front. I'm curious to see how

1162
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: well they hold up. But when Notre Dame has the ball,

1163
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: I just don't see much resistance from the midshipman. So

1164
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: I think they win this one comfortably by like twenty eight. Yeah.

1165
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: I the Navy past defense, like I think CJ. Call

1166
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: I think the Navy defense in general. Like you said,

1167
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: they should be able to do whatever they want.

1168
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: I think whatever they want.

1169
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're going to see somebody with like

1170
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: a ridiculous number like Jenarium Price with two eighteen, or

1171
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, CJ. Carr with three eighty four, something like that.

1172
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Let's let's travel back in time for a second, if

1173
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: we can. Let's go to Friday night, nine pm on ESPN.

1174
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: This is a big and in the G six, it

1175
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: is Tulane on the road at Memphis. Memphis is a

1176
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. Dan I was looking

1177
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: a lot at Tulane ahead of this one. Tulane's a

1178
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: real interesting case study because basically it's a bad defense

1179
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: against the run and especially against the pass, and the

1180
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 1: offense is fairly one dimensional. It's like whatever Jake retz

1181
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: Left can do on the ground that is two lane

1182
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: football in twenty twenty five. They did manage to beat

1183
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: Duke earlier in the year, but they profile, I think

1184
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: right now, as a much worse team than Memphis. They

1185
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: just lost a week ago to Utsa and it wasn't

1186
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: particularly close, so coming into this one, I really like

1187
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: where Memphis is at. They've also been very quarterback dependent,

1188
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: though it's a lot on whatever Brendan Lewis can do.

1189
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: He has had a good year both through the air

1190
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: and on the ground. I think the difference for them

1191
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: is that he's got a much better supporting cast. Yes,

1192
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: and I can't credit Memphis and Ryan Silverfield enough for

1193
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: how they have flipped the switch and changed the philosophy

1194
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: of this offense to meet what he is good at.

1195
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: Because if you look at what they did the last

1196
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: couple of years on their seth hen again, it was

1197
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: not a running quarterback. They didn't have that at all.

1198
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, this year they have adapted this offense in

1199
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: a way that suits Brenda Lewis's skill set in a

1200
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: really meaningful way. He's a good dual threat quarterback in

1201
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: the system, and they have gotten the most out of that.

1202
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: I think tu Lane's going to have a really hard

1203
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: time stop in him. Same, I think they're gonna have

1204
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: a really hard time stopping him, particularly on the ground.

1205
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: To just in general, this ground attack for Memphis, which

1206
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: has done a really really good job this year. I

1207
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: think the Tigers win comfortably and it's like thirty thirty

1208
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: four to twenty one, something like that. I think I'm

1209
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: with you too. I think Memphis is in a better place.

1210
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: I think they do more well. And as as fun

1211
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: as it was to see Utsa play well at home,

1212
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: I just think away it's just going to be a

1213
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: more difficult situation. I think Memphis has I think they

1214
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: seem I mean like UAB game, notwithstanding obviously they seem

1215
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: locked in in this stretch run. It's a you know,

1216
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be a very fun November in the

1217
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: American I'm going Memphis here. I think they went by

1218
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: double digits, ten eleven points, and to see their name

1219
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: on that bracket has to be something of like a

1220
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: watershed moment for this program. Sure. I mean Memphis has

1221
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: been a serious player on the G five G six

1222
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: level for a while. This is a program that is

1223
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: getting investment from FedEx on the nil side, right, This

1224
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: is a program that I think fashions itself is a

1225
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: very serious player in college football moving forward. Yeah, and

1226
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: so just to see their name on that board is

1227
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: a proof of concept. But now they got to bring

1228
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: it home. They got to win out, They got to

1229
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: win the conference if they want to get into the playoff.

1230
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: I think the American winner stands a pretty good chance,

1231
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: probably the best chance of any to find their way

1232
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: into that field. But obviously a lot can happen between

1233
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: now and the end of the season. But yeah, and

1234
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: Memphis is playing good, complimentary football, right, They're not living

1235
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: on any one thing for success.

1236
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: Now.

1237
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, the Tulane loss at UTSA wasn't great,

1238
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: and I just don't think especially the defense for Tulane

1239
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: is where it needs to be. Let's see some under

1240
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: the radar games, Dan, I got a bunch here. Let's

1241
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: get through them quick. Let's start at high noon ACC Network.

1242
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: We've got s MU, a ten and a half point

1243
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: favorite on the road at Boston College. So I bring

1244
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: this up because you know, sim, you.

1245
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: Had a big win a week ago against Miami.

1246
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, possible letdown game for them now as they travel

1247
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: up the Chestnut Hill. But also there is this element

1248
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: of hey, did you hear Bill O'Brien? Is Boston College

1249
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: melting down? What is going on at Boston College? What

1250
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: is SMU's headspace going to be ten and a half

1251
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: points is a lot? I could really see it from

1252
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: both sides, just as I'm sitting here with my psychologist

1253
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: hat on.

1254
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: That could be kind of weird.

1255
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: Boston College hasn't been doing anything well this year. They

1256
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: lose by double digits every week. They lost close to

1257
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: Cal That was like kind of it. Yep, They've won

1258
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: their they won their first game against Fort Him and

1259
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: lost everything else. It is a letdown spot. It's for

1260
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: sure a letdown spot traveling across the country to Boss

1261
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: to Chestnut Hill. I don't see it, man, I don't either.

1262
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I just I think SMU probably

1263
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: doesn't win by a lot. I think it is like

1264
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 1: an ugly game. But I just don't think BC has

1265
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: that fire that pop. As much as Bill O'Brien wants

1266
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: to say, like things are great, everything's great, everybody, everybody's oya, Hi,

1267
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, just dude's losing it a little bit. Yeah,

1268
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: I've got it. At something like the Notre Dame game

1269
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: was twenty five to ten, m something like that. I

1270
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: let's go twenty one to ten or something like that.

1271
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Somewhere in that neighborhood is what I'm thinking.

1272
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: Nop same three point thirty on Fox, Iowa stayed at TCU.

1273
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: TCU favored by six and a half. So my crazy

1274
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: Big Twelve tiebreaker scenario involves TCU winning out BYU beating

1275
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: Texas Tech but then losing to Cincinnati, and then someone

1276
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: along the way, maybe Kansas State beating Utah, and if

1277
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: all of those things happen, that's how TCU gets into

1278
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve title game. I don't think that's likely,

1279
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: but you know, I like to gameplan these things. We

1280
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: have not talked much about TCU, have we We have not.

1281
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: We both like November, a pretty good amount before where

1282
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: the year got started. But TCU right now has sort

1283
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: of been off the radar. They've been a whisper quiet.

1284
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: Six and two statistically a little bit worse than last year,

1285
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: but still six and two. I don't like them giving

1286
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: six and a half points in a game like this, really,

1287
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: in a game like any game. Okay, I think this

1288
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: is more like TCU min is three. So I'm on

1289
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: Iowa State here. I think TCU wins. I've got it

1290
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: at thirty four thirty one Horned Frogs. Yeah, neither of

1291
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: these teams cover, but it's TCU coming off of a bye,

1292
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: with their particular strength going up against Iowa State's specific

1293
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: weakness obviously, the injuries in their secondary. Their past defense

1294
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: has not been good. The red zone offense has not

1295
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: been good. They can neither generate nor prevent big plays.

1296
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: I think TCU comfortably wins this game, and I have

1297
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: them covering. Okay, I have them winning this game by

1298
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, like, oh, thirty one, thirty four

1299
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: to twenty. Let's lock it up? Why not for our

1300
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: TCU friends, lock of the week? Excuse me, Iowa State's

1301
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: lost four in a row. They just got stomped by

1302
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 1: Jeff Simms on the ground. I just what's the what's

1303
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: the reason for Iowa state belief now? Going to Fort Worth?

1304
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: Very difficult to see from me. Three thirty CBS Sports Network.

1305
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: Duke minus nine at the Yukon Huskies. What Yeah, Jim Calhoun,

1306
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: Mike Krzyzewski, who's gonna come out on top? We have

1307
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: not talked a whole lot about Jim Mora and the

1308
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: Yukon Huskies, but oh football, Okay, they're gonna finish like

1309
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: eight and four, nine and three, gonna go to a

1310
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: bowl game. They're not amazing. But I think Yukon is

1311
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: way better than most people realize. Okay, and we called

1312
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: that out before the year. Yukon's pretty good. Jim Morri

1313
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: has done a good job. Also, possible let down spot

1314
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: for Duke, it's true. Let them look at it right,

1315
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: let them look ahead. Yeah, you beat Clemson, You've got

1316
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: Virginia right, that's where Duke is on their schedule. So

1317
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: if the Mississippi State game that we mentioned earlier is

1318
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: a potential letdown, look ahead spot for the Georgia Bulldogs,

1319
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: look at this Yukon matchup. That's true.

1320
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: Could the Huskies pulling up set here.

1321
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Sorry, I've been thinking this whole time about playing doing

1322
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: a back and forth between like mid two thousand's, late

1323
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: nineties Yukon and Duke basketball players. And I don't know

1324
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: if you want to go first with Hashim Tabet or

1325
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Trajany Parkins, Hilton Armstrong Yukon.

1326
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: He had the big neck, right, I don't remember he

1327
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 2: had a huge It's possible.

1328
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: Thomas Hill, not Grant Hill. Thomas Hill, Thomas Hill. Yeah, Duke, okay,

1329
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: I would love to do an episode Cherokee Parks. Yeah,

1330
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: I said, Cherokee. Oh come on, yeah, Cherokee.

1331
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: I have a watch.

1332
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: You can take your pick of the Oh god, now

1333
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the tall twins for I'm losing my mind.

1334
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh there's one of them is at least still in

1335
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, you can take your plumblely pick yea

1336
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: brothers twins. I don't remember, okay. I like Duke here.

1337
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: I do like Duke here. I think they're playing good football.

1338
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: They're the defense has been what's been killing them, yeah,

1339
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: which is weird because that's Manny Diaz's thing, right, that's

1340
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: his thing. So I figured the defense would be performing

1341
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 1: better but I think they're in a better place. I

1342
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: think offensively, they've been rolling and running the ball. So

1343
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm going Duke here. I got Duke by seven. I

1344
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: don't think they cover. I think it's thirty one, twenty

1345
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: four something like that. Okay, four o'clock SEC network, the

1346
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: Armstrong long neck, long neck. Absolutely, Hilton Armstrong. Hilton Armstrong,

1347
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: long neck. Yes, and he's coaching or at some point

1348
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: recently coached the Santa Cruz Warriors G League team. I

1349
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: just remember the neck for Hilton Rmshow yeah, all right,

1350
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: where was oh? Four o'clock SEC network? Auburn at Vandy.

1351
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: Vandy favored by seven. The TPS report is Andy minus seven.

1352
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: So who do you like? Is the bottom gonna.

1353
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 2: Fall out of Auburn now they fired Hu Freeze.

1354
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: Or is the top gonna grow?

1355
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: Or is the top gonna grow?

1356
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,440
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be an augmentation of sorts?

1357
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: So like Auburn's tendency has been to get into close

1358
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: games regardless of the opponent.

1359
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1360
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: There's like a little bit in Mississippi State there.

1361
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: We saw back to back road games earlier in the

1362
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: year Oklahoma and A and M both were very close.

1363
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: I kind of think this could end up being another

1364
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: game like that. Like I think the points spreads right

1365
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: on the number. My lean is Vandy.

1366
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: My pick is I guess going to be Vandy.

1367
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: I would not bet this game with actual money with

1368
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: like a thousand foot pole, because I don't know what

1369
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: to expect. But I just I just kind of think

1370
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: it's like an ugly game. I think it's a one

1371
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 1: score affair. Those are the types of games that Auburn

1372
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: finds itself in to an extent, I think those are

1373
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: the types of games that Vanderbilt's comfortable in, right, So,

1374
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: I Vandy is the better team. Andy's the more organized side.

1375
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: For sure.

1376
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: Auburn might have some players on the roster with more upside,

1377
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they're organized enough to win

1378
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: like this on the road at Vandy. So I'm gonna

1379
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: go Vandy here, I know, but I'm not confident about that.

1380
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: I have Vandy covering and it being low scoring. How

1381
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: about that? Okay, like twenty to ten Vandy. By the way,

1382
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: Auburn going interim head coach DJ Diurkin woof yeah yeah,

1383
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: next seven thirty sec Network Florida minus three on the

1384
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: road at Kentucky. One team lost its coach, the other

1385
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: talking about maybe getting rid of the coach at the

1386
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: end of the year.

1387
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Gimme, gimme Kentucky plus the points at home.

1388
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm going Florida here. I kind of thought Kentucky would

1389
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: be favored or like, have it even be a closer line,

1390
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: But I think Florida played with jews last week against Georgia.

1391
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: They did Okay at that, I'm going Florida here to

1392
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: win on the road.

1393
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: I've got Florida minus one as my number.

1394
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I have Florida went this by a touchdown.

1395
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kentucky bus the points.

1396
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: But seventeen ten Gators lean here nine pm on Fox

1397
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: Nebraska without Dylan Royola on the road at Ucla. Ucla

1398
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: now favored by three points. The computer didn't know what

1399
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: to do with this game. So that's that goes out

1400
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: the window completely. This is all feels, all vibes for

1401
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: for me anyway, I am inclined to go Ucla here

1402
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: because I don't know what Nebraska is gonna look like

1403
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: for a full sixty minutes without Dilan Roola. Uh so

1404
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an inexperienced quarterback. Now play behind this

1405
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: line that Dylan Royola was unable to stay up right behind,

1406
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: and you're traveling to Ucla a weird environment. I like

1407
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: Ucla here. I think they win this game just when

1408
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: your team is down and vibes are bad, and then

1409
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: you have to travel to Pasadena. I think it's just

1410
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: recipe for slop. We saw it last year with Iowa

1411
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: losing at Ucla. We saw it this year with Penn

1412
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: State losing at UCLA. Ucla is not especially good. Why

1413
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: they fired their coach after like an hour and a

1414
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: half into the season. I'm going to Ucla to win

1415
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: this game by a touchdown against Nebraska. Yeah, weird, low,

1416
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: ugly twenty to thirteen, And let's travel back in time

1417
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: one more time bit a PMFS one big matchup in

1418
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Houston's minus one and a half on

1419
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: the road at UCF. Dan wrong team is favored here,

1420
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 1: the Yokos home dog of the week. I like Houston.

1421
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: I've been talking up Houston all year. UCF should be

1422
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: favored by three.

1423
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: Points in this game. Give me the nights at home outright?

1424
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: Wow?

1425
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: Why I'm just going based off the TPS report.

1426
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Just the TPS report. You're leaning into the model. I'm

1427
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: leaning into the model, and the model tells me that

1428
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: UCF in this spot should be a three point favorite.

1429
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: Certainly better at home. The way that they lost last

1430
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: week to Baylor after a bye on the road was ugly,

1431
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 1: so better in the bounce house. I get it. Houston

1432
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: coming off of their last couple of games. It's been eventful,

1433
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: right competing with ASU Houston losing to West Virginia. I'm

1434
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna go bounce house as well here I think they

1435
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: I think you SF wins by three or four. There

1436
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: you have it. Any other games on your radar, Dan

1437
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: that I did not mention? We covered a lot of

1438
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: ground there. Again, if you're waiting for more info on

1439
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: BYU Texas Tech or Oregon Iowa, I have good news

1440
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: for you. We talked about those games for about twenty

1441
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes on the Tuesday episode, so go back

1442
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: and listen to that for more details.

1443
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: Towards the end of the.

1444
01:15:53,720 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: Episode, we did talk extensively about both. Just if you

1445
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: could drop that big, stanky, dripping, drooling, driving, maybe honishing

1446
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: high down Eastern Time Holy Cross one and eight on

1447
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: the road at Murray h. Goodman Stadium against the Lehigh

1448
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: mountain Hawks.

1449
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 2: Lee High is nine, and oh, Dan Orbstein, who.

1450
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: You got Lehigh big? It's not quite a look ahead

1451
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: spot yet because the Lapayete game isn't until the twenty

1452
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: second correct. That game looks like it's going to decide

1453
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 1: the conference. Of course, no championship game. I don't believe

1454
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: now in the pat League. So I really do hope

1455
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: that game has the stakes. We hope it does. So

1456
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Lee High big here, yeah, Lee High one?

1457
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: I believe forty one zip last week over Georgetown, mm hmm.

1458
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: It was a huge showing by them. By the way, Lehigh,

1459
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: by virtue of that win, is now up to number four.

1460
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: I've got four fingers up here, number four in the

1461
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: FCS hole. Who's ahead of them? How many Dakotas? It

1462
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: is North Dakota State, it is Montana, and it is

1463
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: Montana State ahead. Oh nice, the Montana's with more of

1464
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: a top presence. I guess South Dakota State has lost

1465
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: to North Dakota State in the marker game. I'm telling

1466
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: you right now, if Lehigh is playing there, I mean,

1467
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: provided things keep going as well as they are, Lehigh

1468
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get probably a first round by in the

1469
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: SCS Title tournament, and in all likelihood they're going to

1470
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: have a home game or two or three. I will

1471
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: go The Lafayette game is an Easton So that's a

1472
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: body clock game, right, that's a big travel situation. Yeah,

1473
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: it's like a fifteen minute bus ride to get over

1474
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: to Easton from Lehigh and a memory service both like

1475
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: the Penn State Oregon game. Both Big Noon and Game

1476
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 1: Day are doing Lehigh Lafayette twelve thirty, Colgate four and

1477
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: five on the year. Speaking of which, the Yeties of

1478
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: Lafayette six and.

1479
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: Three hosting this one at Fisher Stadium. Who you got?

1480
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: Is it even a question?

1481
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: Got to go?

1482
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: Yet here? We're going Yetties, Okay, one o'clock buck Nell

1483
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: versus Fordham. It's the Nellies, It's the Hammies. Neither team

1484
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: is particularly good. Fordham is worse. Give me the Nellies

1485
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah, I'm going Nellies as well. Yeah,

1486
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: I Buck now can get it done. Sure, Fordham's been

1487
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: a nightmare. And last, but certainly not least, Richmond, the

1488
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Speaker 1: newcomer in the pat League, has been scraping, has been

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Speaker 1: clawing their way to five and four this year in

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Speaker 1: conference overall, they are squaring off against Georgetown, also five

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Speaker 1: and four. Dan, I believe, and I don't have the

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Speaker 1: records in front of me here, I believe this would

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: be Richmond's first trip to multi sport field, at least

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Speaker 1: as a member of the Patriot League. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 1: going Richmond here. Georgetown has scored eighty nine points and

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Speaker 1: given up one hundred and twenty four points in conference,

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Speaker 1: So the offense just not there. Richmond actually behind as well.

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Speaker 1: They've scored ten fewer than they've allowed, but it's not

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Speaker 1: as quite a discrepancy. I'm going Spiders here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going you gotta go Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: By the way, do you see so Bill Connelly ranks

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: like all seven hundred D one or not D one

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: but FBS, FCS D two, D three naia, and he

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: sets lines between divisions and like, I think Boston College

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: would be a ten point underdog to Harvard at this

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: point within Boston, Boston College is the team, haven't. And

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01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: there was something like Texas Tech against somebody would be

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: favored by Oh god, it was like Texas Tech versus

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to get this wrong. It wasn't the Citadel.

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: We mentioned the old myth citadel line before, but it

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: was like Texas Tech Tarleton State would be closer than

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01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: you'd think because Tarleton's pretty good this year. It was

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, Tarlton their top ten, top fifteen. Yeah,

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: they're down to six they lost last week. But by

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,879
Speaker 1: the way, your top ten looks like North Dakota State, Montana,

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: Montana State, Lehigh, Tennessee Tech, Tarleton, then Monmouth, South Dakota

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Speaker 1: State havevid Yeah, and Villanova. Texas Tech would be a

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01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: ninety nine point favorite against East Texas. Baptist Yale would

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01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: be a point favorite against Stanford.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: And he said, this is Bill Connolly. The race for

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01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: number seven hundred and sixty six is coming down to

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Speaker 1: the wire end quote.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's great. I absolutely love it.

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: It looks like it's between Oberlin and the main maritime academy,

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01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: with New England College looking to separate itself just a

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01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, North Dakota State overall number forty

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01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: eight in the country, Harvard sixty nine, Tarlton State eighty five,

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01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: and then yeah, Lehigh's at one oh seven. So Harvard

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: ahead of Lehigh. Yeah, So I don't know, man, it's

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: coming down to it. Can't wait if you got stuff

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01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 1: going on this weekend. This is the last soccer weekend

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: for is it? Oh yeah, both boys have their final

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: game of the fall season. It picks up in the spring.

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01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: So did you blow it off last weekend? No, I

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01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: went to soccer. It was only one game. I had

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: a bye week. It was a tough battle. The little

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: guys team won, physical, tough, a lot of words on

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: the sideline. Really, it's great. Oh yeah, what are you

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: telling him about, like slide tackling, physical play out there?

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Are you teaching him to flop yet or is it

1542
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: too No? No, no. The only thing I tell my

1543
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: kids with soccer is don't be mean to kids, Like

1544
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: don't throw elbows, don't throw forearms, don't rip people down

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: by their jersey or anything like that. But don't get

1546
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: pushed around, right, play a little mean. Don't be a

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01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: mean kid on the soccer because you were a noted quasi.

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01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 2: Dirty pick up basketball player from what you've told.

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: But that's I developed into that, right. This wasn't like

1550
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: something I started from day one as a peewee athlete.

1551
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: I shied away from contact. Tie really did and then

1552
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: I learned that it's much more fun to mix it

1553
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: up a little bit more when you're playing extremely low

1554
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: level rec league. But no, I just tell them play

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: a little meme. And I think that the message has

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01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: gotten through. I think your window is late. I would

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: I would make a later date night. Okayick eleven, I

1558
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: think I think you want to get them in now,

1559
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: because look down the stretch in November. Obviously we got

1560
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: holidays and stuff coming up, but we don't know how

1561
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the season is going to break the last like three

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: or four weeks of this. So I would I would

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01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: arrange the date nights now, like you know, if you

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01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: can see cats. So I am are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you doing it?

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01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh? I'm going out Friday night for Jody's birthday. You

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: don't count? Yes, I do. You're gonna be with there's

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01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: football on there's football on Friday. I'm still going out.

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01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm not talking about Friday. I'm talking about that.

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying I'm trying to get the

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: romance in time, trying to make it all happen. All right,

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: that's your window. Go go see Kats late your your quad.

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01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: I won't play the sound today because we're ready over

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01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: time here. But you got a really good early quad situation,

1575
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: like at high noon. I don't know what the YouTube

1576
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: TV ESPN situation is gonna be this week. I'll we

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: got to deal with that again, hopefully not, but stay

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: tuned to see if the big wigs can come to

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01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: some sort of agreement. It was super fun to buy

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: a day pass for Sling and then put it on

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: the second TV and have Sling tell me, ah, only

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01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: want screen. We watched one screen. Yeah, great, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go back to the pirate feeds. Yeah,

1584
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock, you've got BYU Texas Tech, Indiana, Penn State, Georgia,

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01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, and then just for kicks, SMU Boston College,

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: all of which could be interesting in some way, shape

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01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: or form. And then we got some representation for I

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01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: guess all four of the Power four conferences. Yep, if

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Speaker 1: could be. I was thinking, since this is a longer

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Speaker 1: than usual show, Oh, where are we going with this?

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01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you would have interest in a

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Speaker 1: different kind of secret verbal this week. Okay, I'm listening.

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01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: We may have tried something like this before, but it's

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Speaker 1: been a long time. Okay. Normally, what we do is

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01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: we tell people go out, go to the social media

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Speaker 1: platform of your choosing, usually Twitter x whatever we call

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Speaker 1: it these days, the everything app, everything app thank you,

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Speaker 1: and and just you know, we'll give you a word.

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01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: We want you to tweet something about this to a person.

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: We got Tim brand out pretty good. He had no idea,

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: which I expected.

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01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: That was brilliant. Thank you. Everybody did a great job.

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have a lot of media people who listen

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: to this show. Some are on pregame shows, some producers, yeah,

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01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: behind the scenes for pregame shows. We can make a

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01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: case that this is among the most listened to college

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01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: football shows among media people in the media shows. Yeah,

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01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: which gives us an opportunity and generous Wisconsin fans apparently. Yeah,

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01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: this is also true. Yeah, we have a real opportunity

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: here to put a code word out. I like this,

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: a secret code word that won't mean anything to people

1620
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: who don't listen to.

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01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: Most people don't. Yeah, a lot of people do.

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01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: But for our verballerhood, for the people who know and

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01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: love this show and have made it well over an

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01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: hour and twenty five minutes into the content. What is

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01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: a word that somebody on air, either a play by

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: play guy, an analyst, somebody on a pregame show, a

1627
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: halftime show, you name it, somebody on air word that

1628
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: they could say that doesn't really fit but doesn't not

1629
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: fit that would give it away. That would be a

1630
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: signal to the verballer hood that they listen, that they

1631
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: love the content, and more importantly, that they're big enough

1632
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: dorks to make this steep into a show. What is

1633
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: that code word dan that they could mention on air

1634
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: vase defriends? No, okay it is? That would be one,

1635
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: but we'll see that would alert people liked he just

1636
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: what did RG three just reference? RG three would do

1637
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: that without us prompting it? That's FYI.

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: But give me let's go option a little more.

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01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Bland, I've been let's go broccoli, broccoli, broccoli. If

1640
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: you are hosting a show, if you are calling a game,

1641
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: if you are on air, in some way, tip your

1642
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: cap to the soliverbal by using the word broccoli. The

1643
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: password is broccoli. How would you use broccoli? I would

1644
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: use broccoli in referencing somebody being healthy a football. Look

1645
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: at that offensive line, Look like they've been eating their broccoli.

1646
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, okay yeah.

1647
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Or like they show a tailgating scene and they're saying,

1648
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: not a piece of broccoli in sight while there's a

1649
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: bunch of like brats on a grill. Or you could

1650
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: go the other way and say Auburn hates comfortable wins like.

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01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: They hate broccoli.

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah great. So there are a bunch of different ways

1653
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: you could spin this media. People who are kill in

1654
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: the air, people people with a bowl of broccoli, cheese soup.

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01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that's a stretch.

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01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: I mean you can get away with it. Say whatever

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01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: you want.

1658
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 1: People don't really listen that closely. Let's just say something

1659
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: totally aghast. Yeah, people don't really listen that closely. Okay,

1660
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I agree. Broccoli is the code word. You know who

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01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,480
Speaker 1: you are if you made it this far into the episode.

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01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: It is now on you to say broccoli somewhere on air.

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Speaker 1: bonus points. Yeah. Absolutely, But broccoli is the word yeah

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Speaker 1: forballer hood. Let us know if you hear it. We

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Speaker 1: you can play that one for free. Broccoli is the

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Speaker 1: name of the game. It is screw it Saturday. For

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Speaker 1: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie hilloband thanks for bearing with us here. Enjoy your

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Speaker 1: week eleven and give us a quality five to five verbal.

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Speaker 1: Three we'll talk to you all Saturday Night's Day song Peace,

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