Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death, starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We're going to
Speaker 2: get into the story of the week because we have
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to talk about today.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. First we're going to talk about this
Speaker 1: absolute flight from hell. I don't even know what to
Speaker 1: think about this. An Alaskan Airlines flight the other day
Speaker 1: took off from Portland, Oregon, and was going to Ontario,
Speaker 1: not Canada, but California, which is right outside of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It's about a two hour flight. There was one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one passengers on board, so right after they
Speaker 1: took off, they were about sixteen thousand feet in the air.
Speaker 1: There was a loud boom and then a rush of air.
Speaker 1: The plane jolted and the oxygen masks fell. So how
Speaker 1: would you feel right in that moment, not knowing what
Speaker 1: was going on?
Speaker 2: I would just drop dead? What do you.
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Listen? I wanted to say that I kind of always
Speaker 2: low grade have this in the back of my mind
Speaker 2: because of a post that I did in the gross
Speaker 2: room maybe a year or two ago. A high profile
Speaker 2: death disseection on Southwest flight thirteen eighty and the death
Speaker 2: of Jennifer Reordan. She this happened in Philadelphia at the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia close to the Philadelphia Airport. That's where they made
Speaker 2: the emergency landing, and a piece of the engine had
Speaker 2: broken off and hit the window and she was sucked
Speaker 2: out of the airplane. So and actually our guest writer
Speaker 2: Michelle Poe, also wrote an article about these kinds of
Speaker 2: things happening. So this has happened before, so it is
Speaker 2: always low grade on the back of my mind. So
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be one hundred percent shocked if it happened,
Speaker 2: but I'd still drop dead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that when we covered that story, I felt
Speaker 1: so anxious about just reading it, like absolute horror story.
Speaker 1: So while this is happening, a boy sitting near this
Speaker 1: hole in the plane, his shirt sucked right off his body.
Speaker 1: People's AirPods came out of their ears, their phones flew out,
Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff. So it turns out that this
Speaker 1: area of the fuselage, which is like the main body
Speaker 1: of the plane where the passenger sit, blew off. It
Speaker 1: was called a plug door, which is put in place
Speaker 1: of an emergency exit door, and it just blew right off.
Speaker 1: So they're getting a lot of scrutiny because this plane
Speaker 1: was a Boeing seven thirty seven Max nine. Ironically enough,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you read this, there is one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one of these bowing airplanes like the
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one passengers in use by various
Speaker 1: airlines including Alaska Airlines and United. So after this incident,
Speaker 1: let me go back really quick. They were able to
Speaker 1: land safely, nobody got injured, went to the hospital, but
Speaker 1: everybody ended up being okay. Besides the major PTSD, they're
Speaker 1: going to have the rest of their lives. But so
Speaker 1: they grounded all of these Boeing model of airplanes, and
Speaker 1: upon inspection, United has found that all of their models
Speaker 1: the bolts were loose on all of them. So how
Speaker 1: awesome is that if this situation didn't happen, there could
Speaker 1: have potentially been many more issues.
Speaker 2: Well, they were also having issues with it with the
Speaker 2: plane that did have the accident, was losing cabin pressure
Speaker 2: and it was to the point where they said, hey,
Speaker 2: don't fly this plane on any long flights anymore over
Speaker 2: the ocean or anything in case it needs to land.
Speaker 2: So I just think that the scariest part to me is, well,
Speaker 2: are there planes that were getting on that they just
Speaker 2: don't tell you that. We don't think this thing's safe
Speaker 2: enough to go over a long flight, but we're just
Speaker 2: gonna put it you on it in case there's an
Speaker 2: emergency landing. I just think it's so messed up.
Speaker 1: No, it is really messed up. And also can Alaska
Speaker 1: Airlines grounded all of their models of these planes because
Speaker 1: that was the FAA requirement, and they immediately said they
Speaker 1: were fine put them back into service. And the FAA
Speaker 1: was like, hold up a minute, We're not done, so
Speaker 1: put them back. You're not putting them back in service.
Speaker 1: And as of this morning, they're still under investigation and
Speaker 1: the planes are still getting inspections. So, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, there was some incidents with Boeings
Speaker 1: that really stood out in twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: there were two issues that caused over three hundred people
Speaker 1: to die overseas where the planes crashed due to a
Speaker 1: design flaw. That Malaysian flight that went missing was also
Speaker 1: a Boeing, so think about that. And because of these incidents,
Speaker 1: there's been a Boeing specific documentary made on Netflix and
Speaker 1: a whole separate documentary about the Malaysian airline that went missing,
Speaker 1: and basically they came to the conclusion that the people
Speaker 1: running Bow are so worried about making a profit instead
Speaker 1: of the safety standards that it really makes me hesitant
Speaker 1: to every book a flight on a Boeing model plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. You know, Boeings. Not only are these
Speaker 2: people that were on the plane lucky, but Boeing is
Speaker 2: lucky as well. That they were so low. I think
Speaker 2: they were like sixteen hundred feet right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only they were sixteen thousand feet high, which sixty
Speaker 1: guests is relatively low for an aircraft.
Speaker 2: So the one we were talking about Southwest flight thirteen eighty,
Speaker 2: which I don't know what kind of plane that was, honestly,
Speaker 2: but they were at thirty two thousand feet okay. And
Speaker 2: when that happened, the small hole in just the airplane
Speaker 2: window sucked that woman out of her seat into the window.
Speaker 2: She didn't get sucked all the way out, she got
Speaker 2: stuck in the hole obviously, because human bodies really can't
Speaker 2: fit through that opening that well. But yeah, like if
Speaker 2: they were that high, you would have seen a catastrophic
Speaker 2: event of multiple people going out of this large hole
Speaker 2: one by one. This was a refrigerator sized hole. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: It's people would have been flying out so horrible, But
Speaker 1: don't worry. They made it better and gave everybody a
Speaker 1: full wreath fun and fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah totally. Was it actual cash or like a voucher
Speaker 2: to take their shitty airline again.
Speaker 1: No, it's probably exactly. It's probably a voucher to take
Speaker 1: more flights. And I'm like, yeah, thanks, I'm gonna stick
Speaker 1: with the Airbus models.
Speaker 2: So one of the cool, like a cool story that
Speaker 2: came out of this is that someone on the ground
Speaker 2: found one of these iPhones that got sucked out of
Speaker 2: the plane and it was still working after dropping that far.
Speaker 1: Just you can't pay for marketing like that. Apple should
Speaker 1: really be using it. This happened with a Stanley cup
Speaker 1: incident we talked about before too, were a car fucking cups.
Speaker 1: I seriously am so tired of talking about the craze
Speaker 1: over a cup and waiting in line at Target at
Speaker 1: three in the morning to get a goddamn cup. It
Speaker 1: just seems it's more like fistfighting and my kids, so
Speaker 1: my kids ask for them for Christmas because it's like
Speaker 1: all the rage, all the cool people have them there.
Speaker 2: It's like carrying around a twenty pound coffee mug. It's
Speaker 2: completely impractical. It spills all over the place, and I
Speaker 2: just can't wait till that trend ends. Side note anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that, but that happened with the Stanley cup. Apparently
Speaker 2: some girl had it in her car and it had
Speaker 2: ice water in it, and the car caught on fire,
Speaker 2: and when she took the Stanley cup out there was
Speaker 2: still ice in it or something. Did you see the.
Speaker 1: Real somebody made that said carrying my Stanley cup and
Speaker 1: they're carrying a trash can with like a PBC pip.
Speaker 2: Because literally that's what it is. It's it's when you
Speaker 2: pick it up in the store, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, this is kind of big and heavy,
Speaker 2: but whatever, and you don't take into consideration that you're
Speaker 2: putting thirty ounces of fluid into it. I think they
Speaker 2: even make a forty ounce one too, and when you
Speaker 2: hold it, and then for me, it's like heavy as hell.
Speaker 2: And my kids are like under one hundred pounds, so
Speaker 2: it must it's like half their body weight. And shit,
Speaker 2: I just think it's like the dumbest trend ever. All right,
Speaker 2: let's get into some celebrity stories.
Speaker 1: So this first story which connects to crazy plane accidents
Speaker 1: is this actor Christian Oliver was headed on a single
Speaker 1: engine plane. Also, I have a personal thing that I
Speaker 1: will never get on very small airplanes. They freaked me out.
Speaker 1: But he was on a single engine plane heading to
Speaker 1: Saint Lucia with his two daughters, which are twelve and
Speaker 1: ten years old, and the plane had an engine issue
Speaker 1: and crashed into the water and they all died. So
Speaker 1: four people died, him, his two daughters, and the pilot
Speaker 1: of this plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that sucks, especially because it looks like
Speaker 2: he was divorced and white the ex wife wasn't there obviously,
Speaker 2: and just imagine losing your children in this way is
Speaker 2: just terrible. But you know, something that I was talking
Speaker 2: to pop up about this about this plane accident, the
Speaker 2: one we were just previously talking about, And it seems
Speaker 2: so like it freaks you out so much. But if
Speaker 2: you think about it, even on commercial airlines, say like
Speaker 2: how many people died in commercial airlines this year, it's
Speaker 2: it's just so so low right, as a result of
Speaker 2: an accident, not like a natural death or anything. And
Speaker 2: then even private planes, it's just it's all from all
Speaker 2: the planes that are in the air. It's so low
Speaker 2: compared to how many people died alone today in a
Speaker 2: car accident. But nobody's scared to get into a car,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's just something that
Speaker 2: you need to keep into perspective. Like that incident makes
Speaker 2: me think like, oh my god, I never want to
Speaker 2: fly again, or I never want to go on a
Speaker 2: small plane. But small planes also fly every day with
Speaker 2: no issues. Like think about your teller, Swift and Kardashia,
Speaker 2: all these like famous people at private jets and they're
Speaker 2: flying all over the place and stuff and they don't
Speaker 2: ever have issues, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not true because Aliyah died that way.
Speaker 2: That is true. And we did a day the music died. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did. We did do a high profile or a
Speaker 2: celebrity death. The section on Aliyah too about her plane
Speaker 2: crash that was that was a horrible situation.
Speaker 1: Well, we actually we cut a story this week where
Speaker 1: there was a tourist bus in Lake George turned over
Speaker 1: and I think one person died and eleven were injured.
Speaker 1: And I get what you're saying, like more people die
Speaker 1: in car related accidents than aircraft accidents. But I think
Speaker 1: it's this thing of if there's an emergence, If there's
Speaker 1: an emergency with a bus, for example, that flips over,
Speaker 1: obviously there can be fatalities and they could be really bad,
Speaker 1: but because you're on the ground, there's this certain safety
Speaker 1: behind it.
Speaker 2: Like I have the possibility of.
Speaker 1: Getting out of this. We're in an airplane. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do because you can't If you jump out,
Speaker 1: you're dead.
Speaker 2: If people survive all the time, though it's it's not
Speaker 2: like no one's ever survived a plane crash, although I
Speaker 2: can't even I don't think i'd ever want to survive
Speaker 2: of the plane crash to be honest with you. Okay,
Speaker 2: So back in July of this year, Shaneade O'Connor died.
Speaker 2: It was kind of unexpected and sudden. She was fifty
Speaker 2: six years old, so shit for those of you who
Speaker 2: are young than we shinead O'Connor was a singer from
Speaker 2: Ireland and she was like all the rage in the eighties.
Speaker 2: She had a shaved head. She was really cool. She
Speaker 2: sung that song Compassed that was like the big thing.
Speaker 2: It was just like some weird video we used to
Speaker 2: watch on MTV of her just singing straight into the camera.
Speaker 2: It was it was pretty cool. But her son had
Speaker 2: died by suicide just I think it was like eighteen
Speaker 2: months prior, and she was really really depressed about it, obviously,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people were speculating that her cause
Speaker 2: of death was suicide, but the coroner has come out
Speaker 2: and said that she died of natural causes. So even
Speaker 2: though all of the news story say Shanade's cause of
Speaker 2: death revealed, it hasn't been revealed or I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to find her cause of death. Her manner of
Speaker 2: death is a natural. So there's five manners of death accident, natural, suicide, homicide,
Speaker 2: and undetermined, and her manner of death was natural, but
Speaker 2: we don't know why. It also said that therefore sees
Speaker 2: that they therefore ceased their involvement with her death. So
Speaker 2: it's possible that she might have had something like cancer
Speaker 2: or some kind of illness prior, and she didn't even
Speaker 2: have an autopsy, so a lot of the news reports
Speaker 2: are also saying that this is her autopsy report, and
Speaker 2: that's another like misnomer just because the coroner's involved with
Speaker 2: the death doesn't mean they're necessarily cutting the body. They
Speaker 2: might just say they don't need to be involved because
Speaker 2: she was already be treated for some kind of medical issue.
Speaker 2: But we still don't really know her cause of death. No,
Speaker 2: we don't.
Speaker 1: And there was the assumption that she died by suicide
Speaker 1: and she was found unresponsive, but they've one hundred percent
Speaker 1: ruled out foul play, so I guess we might find out.
Speaker 1: We might never find out.
Speaker 2: But that's what they've come to let you know, of course,
Speaker 2: and discussed that there was a congresswoman and she was
Speaker 2: her family assuing a medical center for medical neglect. Do
Speaker 2: you want to give some details on this case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this woman had a wound from a back surgery
Speaker 1: that she received in September and it had become infected
Speaker 1: because at the rehab facility she was left to lie
Speaker 1: in her own feces in the bed for about an hour.
Speaker 1: So she had to undergo more surgery to treat this infection,
Speaker 1: and she ended up dying from a spinal infection while
Speaker 1: in hospice Carol New Year's Eve, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean the woman her name is Eddie Bernice Johnson.
Speaker 2: She was a Texas a congresswoman, and she was eighty
Speaker 2: eight years old, so, I mean, everything that comes with
Speaker 2: old age is just like it's harder to heal and
Speaker 2: everything like that. But if you have an open wound,
Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world is to put human
Speaker 2: shit into it. Like it's just you're just adding bacteria
Speaker 2: into an open wound and just you're just asking for
Speaker 2: an increase in infection. It's so close to the spinal
Speaker 2: cord there too, if it's open that it just has
Speaker 2: direct access to cause and abscess and cause horrible problems
Speaker 2: and death. So her family's mad. They think that she
Speaker 2: shouldn't have died. I mean, you're eighty eight years old.
Speaker 2: It's coming soon, right, But like it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: it had it in that way. And if you die
Speaker 2: from an infection because you catch a cold or whatever,
Speaker 2: that's one thing. But like when somebody wasn't doing what
Speaker 2: they were supposed to do, then that's considered neglect. So
Speaker 2: of course the it was some Dallas medical center hasn't
Speaker 2: commented because they're saying they don't want to break any
Speaker 2: hippo laws, and it's just like, nah, that's just your
Speaker 2: way of saying, let we need our lawyers. To look
Speaker 2: over this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't one of those things where like
Speaker 1: nobody went in her room for an hour. Apparently she
Speaker 1: was paging somebody for the entire hour, and just nobody
Speaker 1: was going in there and caring for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I'm sure there's a special protocol in
Speaker 2: place for people that have wounds that are very close
Speaker 2: to where a diaper might go or where they might
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom. So I don't know. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely worth investigation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the family's planning on suing the rehab facility,
Speaker 1: which I agree with you, it's definitely worth looking into.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the next case.
Speaker 1: Okay, Actor Barry keyogin right now, he's all the rage
Speaker 1: because this movie Saltburn just came out, which I won't
Speaker 1: be watching, but my friends Alicia and Rachel are absolutely
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. So this guy, why won't you be
Speaker 1: watching it? It's I've heard there's really disturbing things and
Speaker 1: it's like a stalker situation, which I don't really like watching.
Speaker 1: And there's I know about a couple of scenes that
Speaker 1: I don't even feel comfortable talking about with you as
Speaker 1: my parent.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's really disgusting, but I know him.
Speaker 1: I'm more familiar with him for this movie that came
Speaker 1: out last year called The Banshees of Inosheran, which he
Speaker 1: ended up getting an Oscar nomination for. And that movie
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand it when I was watching it
Speaker 1: because it's ends up being this allegory for the Irish
Speaker 1: Civil War. But after my husband explained it to me,
Speaker 1: I really was like, Wow, this is the most genius
Speaker 1: screenplay in the world the way they execute it. So basically,
Speaker 1: Barry kyogin before four days before he was supposed to
Speaker 1: film this movie that was so amazing, he ended up
Speaker 1: getting this flesh eating bacterial disease. Can you explain what
Speaker 1: it was for everybody and why it's so dangerous?
Speaker 2: Okay, So he said that he had necrotizing fasciitis, which
Speaker 2: is a fancy word for saying that he had a
Speaker 2: flesh eating bacteria, which is what they usually say. It's
Speaker 2: not caused by one specific bacteria, could be caused by
Speaker 2: lots of different bacteria, but these certain bacterias give off
Speaker 2: toxins which then kill off the skin and soft tissue,
Speaker 2: so that the word necrotizing means death in pathology and
Speaker 2: fasciitis is the fascia is just this lining that kind
Speaker 2: of encases your muscles. And the reason that this infection
Speaker 2: so deadly is because if an infection can occur in
Speaker 2: the deeper layers of the soft tissue, it could travel
Speaker 2: up the fascial planes, so like in between your muscles,
Speaker 2: and that's how it's spread so rapidly. And when you
Speaker 2: have an infection that's killing off tissue in between that
Speaker 2: as it's growing along your leg or your arm, then
Speaker 2: that's really bad. And what they said that they possibly
Speaker 2: wanted to amputate his arm, because that's what happens, especially
Speaker 2: in surgical pathology. We get lots of Sometimes it'll just
Speaker 2: be like a localized area, and then we get a
Speaker 2: little bit more of an area this one time and
Speaker 2: I were saying when we worked at the hospital together
Speaker 2: that we got pieces of this guy for weeks and
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks because they try to cut it out,
Speaker 2: but then it keeps on spreading. It keeps spreading, and
Speaker 2: at the same time they're trying to treat with antibiotics
Speaker 2: and stuff, and it's just it's very aggressive and it's
Speaker 2: very deadly. Almost twenty two percent of people that get
Speaker 2: it it die from disinfection. Actually, But the weird part
Speaker 2: of this story for me is this guy's young. He's
Speaker 2: thirty one years old, and this usually occurs, like most
Speaker 2: commonly occurs in patients with diabetes, also in patients that
Speaker 2: are immuno compromised and stuff so or obese, which he
Speaker 2: definitely doesn't have obesity, but I don't know if he
Speaker 2: has an underlying autoimmune disease or if he has diabetes.
Speaker 2: So that would be a question that I have because
Speaker 2: my first question when I read that was like, why
Speaker 2: did you get that You're thirty one years old. It's
Speaker 2: just kind of it's it's unusual.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, And the director said, we were
Speaker 1: only about four days from shooting and his arm was
Speaker 1: all puffed up and he was like, yeah, I'll be.
Speaker 2: Fine and see you tuesday.
Speaker 1: And he had no idea if he was gonna live
Speaker 1: or have to get his arm cut off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he and he probably has like a really gnarly
Speaker 2: scar actually, because I'm assuming they they might have even
Speaker 2: cut pieces of his arm off, and just just it's
Speaker 2: an infection like that getting deep into the skin is
Speaker 2: just nasty looking.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll keep an eye out because it's award season
Speaker 1: now and he'll be at every single show. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but men don't usually wear sleeveless dresses. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say all don't, but he yeah, but he's he
Speaker 1: might be even more stylish than he doesn't just wear
Speaker 1: a classic suit. At the Golden Globes, he wore this
Speaker 1: whole red getting.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that. That was I thought that
Speaker 2: was kind of nice. Actually, I was into that. Did
Speaker 2: you like that looker?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I appreciate the effort of being different
Speaker 1: because I think, as you know, we talk about this
Speaker 1: all the time, men could get away with just looking
Speaker 1: incredibly handsome in a plain tucks where the women get
Speaker 1: like steaked to death when they try to take a risk.
Speaker 1: So I do really miss Joan Rivers so much, and
Speaker 1: it's just not the same without hers.
Speaker 2: She was so good. All right.
Speaker 1: I applaud his effort, but it wouldn't be my first choice,
Speaker 1: all right. Freak accidents Okay, So this next story is
Speaker 1: this woman and her husband were jet skiing in Russia
Speaker 1: and he made a sharp term. She falls off into
Speaker 1: the water and apparently he hit the gas and the
Speaker 1: power of the jet after he accelerated caused her to
Speaker 1: have a genital rupture, to which she later died.
Speaker 2: So we I personally think a genital rupture is just
Speaker 2: kind of vague, but the water getting sprayed so hard
Speaker 2: close to her vagina could have caused a perforation through
Speaker 2: her uterus, which could have caused a significant bleed. It
Speaker 2: could have caused. I mean, we've seen cases of people
Speaker 2: that have had severe trauma to their vulva and vagina
Speaker 2: just from having sex. That causes large bleeds and hematomas
Speaker 2: which could end up I guess in theory if they
Speaker 2: bled out, if they could, they could die from that too.
Speaker 2: But I had this one specific case that I posted
Speaker 2: in the gross Room wants called blow it out Your Ass.
Speaker 2: I have very creative names for my titles for my articles,
Speaker 2: but this one was about these mechanics that were working
Speaker 2: and one of them had the hide the air from
Speaker 2: the you know, putting air in tires and stuff, and
Speaker 2: they thought that it would be funny if from the compressor.
Speaker 2: They thought it would be funny if they took this
Speaker 2: hose and stuck it like in the butt of one
Speaker 2: of their co workers. And what happened because this is
Speaker 2: what like young guys do. They do dumb shit Like
Speaker 2: it just reminds me of like a jackass moment.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So the guy puts a hose up to this other
Speaker 2: guy's butt hole, and the air is so strong that
Speaker 2: it perforates the guy's colon and he ends up dying
Speaker 2: from it. And it's it's the same thing. You think, like, God,
Speaker 2: air could do that, and it's like, yeah, when it's
Speaker 2: coming out that hard, it could do that. And it's
Speaker 2: the same thing with water. So I'm just assuming that
Speaker 2: if they're saying it was a genital injury, it could
Speaker 2: went like traveled right up her vagina and threw her
Speaker 2: uterus and popped a.
Speaker 1: Hole right through and caused her to bleed to death.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times do we need to understand
Speaker 1: that like sticking foreign objects up your butthole is not
Speaker 1: a good idea?
Speaker 2: Well exactly. I I think one of my friends who's
Speaker 2: the trauma nurse on Instagram, Lewis, he always has said
Speaker 2: to me that people don't understand how dangerous jet skis are.
Speaker 2: He's a trauma nurse in Miami, so he sees a
Speaker 2: lot of these injuries and he calls them like motorcycles
Speaker 2: of the sea, and we know how dangerous motorcycles are.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's funny because we were just down in
Speaker 2: Florida and Gabe was saying, like, look at all these
Speaker 2: people jet skiing, and I'm like, my children are not
Speaker 2: going on jet skis. Sorry, it's not happening. Like you
Speaker 2: guys can do that when you're over eighteen and when
Speaker 2: you're by yourself, but like when I'm in control of this,
Speaker 2: it's not happening because they're not safe, like in my opinion, no, totally.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So there's a lawsuit going on right now with these
Speaker 2: parents that are suing a candy maker who made these
Speaker 2: candy Land themed gummy candies that apparently their child that
Speaker 2: was three years old was chewing on and this candy
Speaker 2: got stuck in the child's airway causing a lack of oxygen.
Speaker 2: The child is permanently has permanent brain damage, paralysis, can't
Speaker 2: use her bladder anymore, and so they're suing the maker
Speaker 2: of this candy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're saying this three year old ate this
Speaker 1: candy and it became so sticky that it blocked her airway,
Speaker 1: and that they were having such a difficult time getting
Speaker 1: it out themselves, and even the hospital staff was having
Speaker 1: a hard time getting it out. So I guess the
Speaker 1: flaw was in the candies designed because it was sticky
Speaker 1: and getting stuck but not dissolving and going down. So
Speaker 1: I don't really know because I was thinking about other candy,
Speaker 1: and I guess realistically, you could choke on any type
Speaker 1: of candy, but there is a point where they have
Speaker 1: to be responsible if it's not dissolving in the way
Speaker 1: it should.
Speaker 2: Did you Did you ever even see this candy? I've
Speaker 2: never seen.
Speaker 1: We're huge candy people, and I feel like I've never even.
Speaker 2: I've I've never seen it either because I just went
Speaker 2: to like that huge candy store in Savannah, and like,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't see it because I love Candyland.
Speaker 2: I just played it last night with my kids, actually,
Speaker 2: but I just don't remember seeing it. But I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's other reports of accidents with it or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But they're asking for fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for the child's injuries just because the child's kind of
Speaker 2: permanently disabled. It just sucks. But I do agree with
Speaker 2: you that there's a certain life. I'm always like a
Speaker 2: person that's there's a certain level of this. But honestly,
Speaker 2: like now that I think about it, any little kid
Speaker 2: chewing anything. I mean, this could happen with like fruit
Speaker 2: snacks or anything that sticks together like that when it melts.
Speaker 2: You know, Like remember that time you left like a
Speaker 2: bag of gummy peaches or something in your car in
Speaker 2: the summer and it like made one giant like square
Speaker 2: of melt. Yeah, I mean that's what happens when that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff gets breaks down and gets hot from
Speaker 2: your body temperature and stuff. So I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's just something like parents should always think about. Anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, get on, let's talk about this exploding toilet.
Speaker 1: This guy at a dunkin Donuts outside of Orlando, Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 1: is saying he was going to the bathroom when the
Speaker 1: toilet exploded, leaving him covered and he human feces, you'rein
Speaker 1: in debris, to which he goes out of the bathroom
Speaker 1: covered and all of this stuff tells the employee and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, we were aware of an.
Speaker 2: Issue with this, Yeah don't. I don't know exactly what
Speaker 2: happened because I'm not a huge. I'm not a plumbing expert, obviously,
Speaker 2: but clearly there was some kind of a blockage somewhere
Speaker 2: that dislodged. Unfortunately during this time when this guy was
Speaker 2: using the toilet. I also don't know what an exploding
Speaker 2: toilet is, Like did it just push out the water
Speaker 2: on him or did it break the porcelain of the
Speaker 2: toilet as well?
Speaker 1: Like how well it is covered in debris? So is
Speaker 1: debris toilet paper? Like what's debris? I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: what is the extent of this explosion. I also want
Speaker 1: to note that he's seeking one hundred thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: I just want to say, yeah, this is a horrible
Speaker 1: accident and everything, and I'm sure it was disgusting and
Speaker 1: he's gonna have trauma. But think about the last case
Speaker 1: we just talked about. Those people's child is disabled potentially
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life, and they only sought
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars from the candy company, which I thought
Speaker 1: was a little too low in this case, and this
Speaker 1: guy wants double that because he had shit on his face.
Speaker 2: I'd be cool with just like a gift card to
Speaker 2: Duncan for the rest of my life or something. Just
Speaker 2: be like, this is your vip Duncan gift card. We're
Speaker 2: sorry about that. I don't know, I come on, like
Speaker 2: the thing is is that obviously like his shit might
Speaker 2: be all over hisself, but if there was a blockage
Speaker 2: and lots of stuff came out with it, it's kind
Speaker 2: it's kind of really not only is it gross, but
Speaker 2: you can be exposed to all sorts of viruses and
Speaker 2: just like bacteria. And I don't know if he really
Speaker 2: it said that he got bodily injury, and I would
Speaker 2: say that he could have if the if the porcelain broke.
Speaker 2: I didn't even listen, Like I don't want to sound
Speaker 2: dumb or anything, but I didn't even know that a
Speaker 2: toilet could explode. I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 2: So it's like just another new fear to add on
Speaker 2: the list. Did you ever think when you went into
Speaker 2: a public bathroom that it was going to like explode
Speaker 2: on you? And plus he had to be sitting on it,
Speaker 2: right if he got hurt by it.
Speaker 1: So like yeah, because he wasn't at a urinal it's
Speaker 1: not like when you're in a female's bath him that
Speaker 1: you're just you have to sit no matter what on
Speaker 1: the toilet unless you're in Europe because they just have
Speaker 1: holes in the ground. So it's just like the water
Speaker 1: ski accident then, right, like how who knows how hard
Speaker 1: that water like shot up his ass, Like you just
Speaker 1: don't well, I'm picturing I'm picturing this like rumbling like
Speaker 1: shot up and the toilet just explodes breaks apart.
Speaker 2: He slamming bathroom stock. You're saying like when ngoonies, remember
Speaker 2: when like like a chunk and sloth underneath of the
Speaker 2: ground like tapping on the pipes. And then that guy Troy,
Speaker 2: like the jerk, was sitting on the toilet and all
Speaker 2: the water shot up and he like went up into
Speaker 2: the air. Is that like your picture? Your picture, that's
Speaker 2: what happens to him. I'm picturing this total cinematic.
Speaker 4: Expensions that I don't know, like that's I'm I'm sure
Speaker 4: it was not like that at all, and it was
Speaker 4: just something ruptured and some water splashed on him and everything,
Speaker 4: and I guess that could be technically considered an explosion,
Speaker 4: but I'm.
Speaker 1: Just she's absolutely horrification. I feel like this would happen
Speaker 1: to momm She's always getting into situations and oh yeah, this.
Speaker 2: Would definitely happen a mom. It probably has happened to
Speaker 2: mo mom. Actually was this mom exactly? All right, talk
Speaker 2: about this case. So we had a couple cases this
Speaker 2: week that happened in Philly, so we always want to
Speaker 2: talk about local cases that happened near us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not choking at all. Friday night into Saturday,
Speaker 1: around two to three in the morning, this woman climbed
Speaker 1: over this fence outside of Infinity Live. Xfinity Live is
Speaker 1: this bar that is smack in the middle of our
Speaker 1: three major stadiums the Philly is the Eagle Stadium and
Speaker 1: the Sixers Slash Flyers play in the same stadium, so
Speaker 1: it's like in the middle of this whole stadium hub.
Speaker 1: So this entire area is gated off by these really high,
Speaker 1: I think twelve foot tall fences, right, they're really high,
Speaker 1: maybe eight feet anyway, pretty high, and they have those
Speaker 1: spikes on them. And it's because that's where everybody goes
Speaker 1: and parks her like iron fence. They're probably illuminum, but
Speaker 1: they're like look like wrought iron fence. Yeah, So everywhere
Speaker 1: in this area is covered by these fences because that's
Speaker 1: where all the parking lots are for the arenas. So basically,
Speaker 1: this forty eight year old woman is trying to climb
Speaker 1: over one of the fences at two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: There was a Sixers game that night, so I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if she was at the game and then went to
Speaker 1: the bar and was intoxicated or leaving. So she climbs
Speaker 1: over the fence and her leg gets stuck, gets impaled,
Speaker 1: and then five hours later somebody finds her dangling there
Speaker 1: and she died.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really nuts. I'm curious, Like there's definitely like
Speaker 2: surveillance cameras out there, right, so they, oh, they know
Speaker 2: what happened. Yeah, there's no way, there's no So I
Speaker 2: have two theories either, like, yeah, like you said, she
Speaker 2: was at the bar and she left and kind of
Speaker 2: stumbled was stumble on home alone? Although why would she
Speaker 2: be trying to climb back over the fence. Do you
Speaker 2: think her car was in there?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Is that a post? Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I went to the scene of the crime on Monday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really great. So she asked she asked
Speaker 2: Gabe to drive her to the Flyers game, and then
Speaker 2: she's like, wait a second, pull over, I need to go.
Speaker 3: Check out something really quick. Yeah, so on Stone Reporter,
Speaker 3: he was willing. Gabe's so nice. He was willing to
Speaker 3: drive me around everywhere. But when there's a game that
Speaker 3: cars and traffic are so chaotic. So I felt bad
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's okay, pull over. So I
Speaker 3: got out and I walked around.
Speaker 1: And even though these fences are everywhere, there are exits,
Speaker 1: and there's areas where the gates are smaller because it's
Speaker 1: where the driveways are for the parking lots I just
Speaker 1: and also at Inxfinity Live, there's other smaller fences that
Speaker 1: she probably could have hopped and got out easier. I
Speaker 1: just don't see a situation in which this would.
Speaker 2: Be your first option. She was probably well we don't
Speaker 2: know because we don't want to say we didn't do
Speaker 2: the autopsy, but if she could have been drunk, so
Speaker 2: then take any explanation out of the out of it.
Speaker 2: But also another so the other theory I have is
Speaker 2: that someone was chasing her and she was trying to
Speaker 2: get away and get over the fence.
Speaker 1: These fences are I mean, that's a really good theory.
Speaker 1: And these fences are so high and the way they're designed,
Speaker 1: I if you're in the grosser room. I'll put a
Speaker 1: picture on today's episode of the fence that I took
Speaker 1: the other night. It's not particularly an easy fence to climb,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't ever think of scaling something like this
Speaker 1: because of the way it's designed and knowing the area.
Speaker 1: I just know there's easier way out. And it was
Speaker 1: either some form of laziness like I don't want to
Speaker 1: walk five minutes to go to a smaller entrance, or yeah,
Speaker 1: she was being chased or something, but it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. I have to imagine there's so much security
Speaker 1: in that area because of how it's set up and everything.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure they know and we just don't know.
Speaker 1: But they did say the injuries were consistent with the gait, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about So let's talk about how
Speaker 2: she actually died. So if her leg was impaled, that
Speaker 2: means that a major artery like the probably your ephemeral
Speaker 2: artery in your thigh was nicked or if not totally
Speaker 2: blown through, and she bled. She is what we say
Speaker 2: ex sanguinated, so she bled to death outside of her body,
Speaker 2: so it you would see a large volume of blood
Speaker 2: on the ground until until she when she was found
Speaker 2: the next day, until she died, but there would be
Speaker 2: leaders of blood on the ground.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say that. I mean it was
Speaker 1: nighttime when I was there, but I did not see se.
Speaker 2: I did say to Gabe, I'm like, I know that
Speaker 2: the medical examiner is not going out there and cleaning
Speaker 2: that up, and Gabe's like, yeah, that's why they call
Speaker 2: the fire department. So Gabe has been called multiple times
Speaker 2: to go hose down large volumes of blood. So that's
Speaker 2: probably what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that, yeah, because it could have very well been
Speaker 1: in the grass area right behind it, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: It was dark out, so I didn't see it in
Speaker 1: that area. Is not particularly I do want to say, though,
Speaker 1: and I understand what we've talked about in the past,
Speaker 1: is that that area can be pretty dead at nighttime,
Speaker 1: because this happened at two to three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: And if there's no event happening in the bars clothes,
Speaker 1: why would anybody be driving there. There's not a neighborhood
Speaker 1: there or really anything else to do but the stadiums.
Speaker 1: But it is on a main road where she was
Speaker 1: allegedly dangling, not allegedly but where she was dangling. So
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how nobody found her for five hours, Like,
Speaker 1: not an entire person in the city of Philadelphia drove
Speaker 1: down that street for five hours, even if it was
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. I just refused to
Speaker 1: believe it. It's right off of a highway, it's easy
Speaker 1: to cut through there to get to certain neighborhoods, and
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people that walk.
Speaker 2: Around there at night too that are up to no good.
Speaker 1: But I just I just think there's no possibility nobody
Speaker 1: found her for so long, or somebody solid.
Speaker 2: And was like, this ain't my problem. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: really know, all right. The last story in this category
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about is an explosion that was
Speaker 2: at a historical hotel in Texas.
Speaker 1: So right before this explosion, there was a really strong
Speaker 1: odor of gas and then the yeah, and then the explosion.
Speaker 2: Was powerful gas. The gas like the gas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the guests and people walking by on
Speaker 1: the street. So the explosion was powerful enough that it
Speaker 1: blew concrete off of the street level and it allowed
Speaker 1: firefighters to peer down into the levels below which some
Speaker 1: people were down there, and they were trapped and they
Speaker 1: had to get them out. I want to say that
Speaker 1: this happened at three o'clock in the afternoon, and I
Speaker 1: think if this happened in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: when everybody was sleeping in the hotel, this could have
Speaker 1: been way more catastrophic. The restaurant at the hotel was
Speaker 1: also closed, and there was only a few employees on
Speaker 1: staff at the time of the explosion, so they were injured.
Speaker 1: But so twenty one people were injured as a result
Speaker 1: of this, no fatalities. I feel like this, honestly could
Speaker 1: have been so much worse if this was in the
Speaker 1: middle of.
Speaker 2: Well apparently they said one person was in critical condition
Speaker 2: and four people were severely injured, so it's not like
Speaker 2: just because someone didn't die, I mean they might have
Speaker 2: really horrible injuries for the rest of their life. And
Speaker 2: like Maria and I have, this is like one of
Speaker 2: our biggest fears because we had a situation like this
Speaker 2: almost happened to us that when we were this was
Speaker 2: before I got married and stuff. We were living in
Speaker 2: an apartment together and we always smelled gas and we
Speaker 2: would call the landlord and complain about it and just
Speaker 2: say like, hey, could you check this out, and we
Speaker 2: ended up moving. That was when we moved into Gabe's house.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but we were out of Gabes house for
Speaker 2: a few months and then all of a sudden, all
Speaker 2: of our friends and family started calling us and asking
Speaker 2: us if we were okay, and we were like, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And hear our apartment building we
Speaker 2: were living in blew up from a gas explosion, and
Speaker 2: there was it was a big old Victorian house that
Speaker 2: was split up into like five or six apartments, and
Speaker 2: our apartment was just one of one of them. But
Speaker 2: we had moved out, and I guess just like a
Speaker 2: lot of people didn't know we moved out, and it
Speaker 2: was right in the center of our town, so everybody
Speaker 2: just knew that we lived there, and they thought that
Speaker 2: it wasn't it like same thing, like three o'clock in
Speaker 2: the afternoon on a Saturday, Like we totally would have
Speaker 2: been home sitting there and on the couch. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: it just freaks us out so much because we would
Speaker 2: look at pictures of the apartment that were completely on fire,
Speaker 2: saying like, oh my god, we would have been sitting
Speaker 2: right there, Like there's just such a chance that we
Speaker 2: wouldn't even have survived that or the one only the
Speaker 2: only person that was home is she was so severely
Speaker 2: burned all over her body. And then we had to
Speaker 2: talk to the prosecutors because we were like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: guy was ignoring us. I hurt, I smelled gas like
Speaker 2: I was like raising my hand to talk. Wasn't it wanted?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it one of those things too where our gas
Speaker 1: bill was oh, yeah, that's how fifty cents and then
Speaker 1: the upstairs gas bill was four hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something not really just like when I
Speaker 2: moved in, the woman that was living there previously was like, listen,
Speaker 2: there's something weird about the gas bill.
Speaker 1: And even though we have the biggest apartment because we
Speaker 1: had the two bedroom apartment, it's cheap.
Speaker 2: It's really cheap. And the people in the upstairs their
Speaker 2: bill is really high, and you might just want to
Speaker 2: like call PS and G that's our electric company, and
Speaker 2: ask them about it. So when I moved in, I
Speaker 2: called and I was like, Hi, my bill is like
Speaker 2: five dollars a month, and I don't know, the upstairs
Speaker 2: bill is three hundred dollars a month. Whatever it was.
Speaker 2: It was like mine was ridiculously cheap, even for living
Speaker 2: in a small apartment. And I said, and I called
Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't want to get a
Speaker 2: bill for like three thousand dollars one day, because you
Speaker 2: guys aren't reading the meters or whatever, right, And I
Speaker 2: called and they said, yeah, everything looks fine on her end,
Speaker 2: just like like you know, nobody took it seriously. And
Speaker 2: and what happened was the guy had taken this building
Speaker 2: and split it up into apartments himself and didn't do
Speaker 2: it the right way. And that's what happened. There was
Speaker 2: the gas explosion. The girl smelled gas. She was on
Speaker 2: the top floor, one of the people living in the building.
Speaker 2: She was a young, a young woman.
Speaker 1: She turned the the the knob on the gas stove
Speaker 1: to see if she left the stove on by accident,
Speaker 1: and when she lit the pilot, it caused the explosion.
Speaker 1: And I mean, she I don't even know what's up
Speaker 1: with her now, But she was in a burn center
Speaker 1: with like a huge percentages of her body skin grafts
Speaker 1: like all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So I ended up seeing her.
Speaker 1: I worked at a restaurant in the town too, and
Speaker 1: I ended up seeing her about two years after that
Speaker 1: accident and she should. I've seen her, and she definitely
Speaker 1: had burns all over her body. But I think that
Speaker 1: she's been able to like she's not severely impacted by it.
Speaker 2: She can walk and everything. Yeah, I mean that that's
Speaker 2: good to hear, but it's just it is it's so
Speaker 2: scary because when you're at a hotel, obviously you're on vacation,
Speaker 2: and you don't ever even though they show you where
Speaker 2: fire exits are and everything like that, you don't ever
Speaker 2: really think about it because you're on vacation and you
Speaker 2: think something like that's not going to happen, especially if
Speaker 2: a business is on top of it and they have
Speaker 2: staff that's checking it all the time, but especially in
Speaker 2: old buildings and stuff like, you don't know how things
Speaker 2: were set up beforehand, and I can't they They also
Speaker 2: didn't say it was a gas explosion like they're saying,
Speaker 2: like investigators haven't come out and said that. They just
Speaker 2: said it doesn't look like foul play at this time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I just want to end our our personal story
Speaker 1: with this is it's not like it happened years later.
Speaker 1: We moved out in November and this happened in February
Speaker 1: it was very shortly after we moved out. Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: and very easily could have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. So it was so scary. And then
Speaker 2: one of you know, Caro, like always used to come
Speaker 2: over on the weekends too, when this is when I
Speaker 2: was working at the one hospital, and like we would
Speaker 2: hang out on Saturdays and we would go to the
Speaker 2: mall and have dinner and stuff. And then it's like,
Speaker 2: it's just so scary to think, like what could have happened.
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Speaker 2: right y, let's get into violent crime.
Speaker 1: This story is so disgusting. This twenty twenty two year
Speaker 1: old filmed herself beating her two month old daughter and
Speaker 1: then sent the video to her child's father. So then
Speaker 1: she kept following it up with even more, she texted
Speaker 1: him a photo of the baby lying on the bed
Speaker 1: with a blanket covering the nose and mouth, which could
Speaker 1: suffocate a small baby like that, and the video showed
Speaker 1: her forceful pushing the baby, screaming at her, calling her
Speaker 1: a dumb ass bitch. Then she followed it up with
Speaker 1: text message that said, stuck with this thing until she dies.
Speaker 1: Makes me sick that she doesn't have a different father
Speaker 1: and I can't love her because she was a part
Speaker 1: of you. I'm going to enjoy my twenties. Left your
Speaker 1: sperm in the house with a cat.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely discussing. So the the guy that the
Speaker 1: father of this baby brings all of this information to
Speaker 1: the police.
Speaker 2: They go to her house.
Speaker 1: She won't answer the door, and because they think the
Speaker 1: child's in danger, they're not letting it go, so they
Speaker 1: have a handyman open the door before they kick it down,
Speaker 1: I assume. And then when they get in there, the
Speaker 1: baby did appear to be an okay condition, But they
Speaker 1: arrested the mom and then she did confess to doing
Speaker 1: all of it, Which did you even need to confess
Speaker 1: there was evidence of you doing it?
Speaker 2: Well, I hope she spent in the twenties in jail.
Speaker 1: That's what I hope like for yeah, her thirties and
Speaker 1: her forties and her fifties, Like, yes, she's just an asshole.
Speaker 1: And like see, there's always like this debate on like
Speaker 1: whether people should be allowed to have children or not,
Speaker 1: and like, I just think in cases like this, there
Speaker 1: should be some kind of like mandatory sterilization, like she
Speaker 1: should never be allowed.
Speaker 2: To have a baby. Again. That's it's just seriously disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know there's things called like adoption agencies,
Speaker 1: So you could bring your child that you're so quote
Speaker 1: unquote disgusted by and at least give that child an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to a loving home instead of just
Speaker 1: abusing them.
Speaker 2: Can't you. Actually, I feel like there's like these things.
Speaker 2: There's this law that you can bring a baby that's
Speaker 2: like under one years old to a fire department and
Speaker 2: just be like here, I don't want this baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a don't ask, don't tell situation. It's
Speaker 1: fine to give the kid, you know, Yeah, as long
Speaker 1: as you try to give your kid a better home
Speaker 1: and you want them to have a better life, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could bring I don't know this for effect, but
Speaker 1: you can bring them to like an adoption.
Speaker 2: Agency or an emergency person and they can help you. Well,
Speaker 2: I think I think that the reason that they set
Speaker 2: up these things at fire departments and stuff is because
Speaker 2: people like, let's say, for example, this woman was feeling
Speaker 2: this way. You can't you're not going to down her
Speaker 2: for feeling this way. The guy did her wrong, she
Speaker 2: hate she she doesn't want to look at the kid. Whatever.
Speaker 2: But when you're having those kinds of feelings, that's when
Speaker 2: it's like easy for you to just go and drop
Speaker 2: the baby off to a fire department and be like
Speaker 2: I don't want this kid instead of beating it. But
Speaker 2: when you have to think about adoption and stuff, it's
Speaker 2: just like, okay, that's like you gotta find a place
Speaker 2: you can't just like it's not like a very impulse
Speaker 2: of like let me get rid of this kid right now. Thing.
Speaker 2: I know that there's like they put these like boxes
Speaker 2: outside of some firehouses where you could stick the baby
Speaker 2: like in the box. Actually, no, it doesn't seem no,
Speaker 2: he's crazy, Like I just I was just telling Gabe,
Speaker 2: I read an article that someone dropped the baby in
Speaker 2: one of these boxes, and one of the firemen at
Speaker 2: one of the fire stations adopted the baby.
Speaker 1: It's it's seriously such a heartwarming it is. It's it's
Speaker 1: because there's so many people that want kids, so just
Speaker 1: like give the kid to somebody else.
Speaker 2: And there's all these laws that like, you won't even
Speaker 2: get in.
Speaker 1: Trouble if you put the kid down. But she seemed
Speaker 1: like she wanted to hurt the kid to show the
Speaker 1: guy that she was hurting the kid. And there's a
Speaker 1: disconnect there with like you being a mom, like that
Speaker 1: guy hurt you. There's plenty of I'm sure allegedly like
Speaker 1: we don't even know that this guy hurt her. Well,
Speaker 1: she felt hurt, doesn't mean he does, yeah, exactly. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like there's thousands and millions of women that
Speaker 1: get hurt by guys all the time that don't beat
Speaker 1: their kids.
Speaker 2: Like there's there. You have to have some kind of
Speaker 2: a disconnect, so no people like this need to rot
Speaker 2: in jail, like seriously, all right, And I.
Speaker 1: Mean, the thing is is that she didn't even like
Speaker 1: the baby's relatively okay, So she's probably not going to
Speaker 1: go to jail for a while, and this will probably
Speaker 1: be a cycle in her life.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't know. It depends what the video shows,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? All right, another Philly story. This,
Speaker 2: this is so weird.
Speaker 1: So these two men are fighting at the sept the
Speaker 1: station at thirty fourth in Market. So you're familiar with
Speaker 1: the area, I am too. It's where a lot of
Speaker 1: the colleges are busy area, and they're like holding if
Speaker 1: you're watching the YouTube, they're like holding each other, gripping
Speaker 1: each other, but nobody's really doing anything. And the one
Speaker 1: guy is pinned against a pole in the train station.
Speaker 1: So the guy pinned against the pole breaks the hold
Speaker 1: and throws two punches towards the guy that was holding him.
Speaker 1: That man falls, loses his balance and falls into the track,
Speaker 1: and not even a second later, the train comes and
Speaker 1: hits him.
Speaker 2: Any days, he couldn't have time that any more? Perfect
Speaker 2: like it just the d well. There's a video online
Speaker 2: of it. It's yeah.
Speaker 1: So this woman is recording the entire thing up till
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes after the death occurs.
Speaker 2: And instead of saying like yo, there's a train coming back.
Speaker 1: This like no, all she said was thanks Now me
Speaker 1: and my daughter can't get home.
Speaker 2: Wow. So and people are screaming it. Obviously, I feel
Speaker 2: like i'd pass out. I didn't listen. You know what,
Speaker 2: Actually I didn't listen to it with you know, I
Speaker 2: have my.
Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta listen to the audio because it's the
Speaker 1: people are screaming, and this lady is just so pissed.
Speaker 1: She was inconvenience of like, how are you videoing this
Speaker 1: entire alter kate? It's a foot in front of her too,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you back up if people were fistfighting like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know her shit's gone viral. So apparently
Speaker 2: she did the right thing. I don't know. But so
Speaker 2: the the guy that Sorry, no I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: Probably what you're gonna say is that that guy is
Speaker 2: gonna get charged with homicide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he fled the scene. They later found him. They
Speaker 1: believe he's homeless, and he has he has a bench
Speaker 1: weren't for an unrelated strangulation charge in Delaware County, which,
Speaker 1: for those of you aren't familiar with our area, Delaware
Speaker 1: County is in Pennsylvania, not Delaware, even though.
Speaker 2: It's like too many but it's like right next to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he has an unrelated strangulation case. It's still
Speaker 1: unclear why the fight even started, if they knew each other,
Speaker 1: or what happened, But it's insane that this entire thing
Speaker 1: is on video. So I guess from our perspective, it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see exactly how the death occurred, but very
Speaker 1: strange had somebody thought to film the whole thing, including
Speaker 1: up to a couple minutes after. So two interesting cases
Speaker 1: the Philia Me got this week was a person that
Speaker 1: got ran over by a train and a person that
Speaker 1: was impaled on a fence outside of the stadiums. Crazy crazy,
Speaker 1: all right, So we talked about this next case in
Speaker 1: the gross room when it happened. This was back in October,
Speaker 1: but all right, tell a little bit about what happened here.
Speaker 1: This was actually the week before we launched Mother Knows Death,
Speaker 1: so I for a second thought we covered it on
Speaker 1: our first episode, but we didn't. So this guy's wife
Speaker 1: died and he claimed she had a very illness, which
Speaker 1: was he I can't even say this. Did you have
Speaker 1: this written down? It's cold autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2: Called choline or something, but oh, the autoimmune disease. No,
Speaker 2: So wait, let's start off because you're leaving out a
Speaker 2: huge thing. This guy is a Mayo doctor from the
Speaker 2: Mayo Clinic. He's a resident and he was also a
Speaker 2: poisoned specialist. I was getting there. So this guy, his
Speaker 2: wife died under suspicious reasons. And that's why we're even
Speaker 2: talking about this story. So as Maria was saying she
Speaker 2: died and it was supposedly some kind of autoimmune disease
Speaker 2: that he said she had, but they did testing and
Speaker 2: found out that she didn't have it. And the wife's
Speaker 2: friend said that she did say that she she started
Speaker 2: experiencing all of these really horrible symptoms and went to
Speaker 2: the hospital, almost like you would see in a food poisoning,
Speaker 2: and she said to her friend, like, I got sick
Speaker 2: after I ate this milkshake that when I was having.
Speaker 2: I don't think that she was suspicious that her husband
Speaker 2: was poisoning her, but she said their husband made it
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: Well, you're leaving out the major red flag here is
Speaker 1: that after she died from this alleged autoimmune disease, he
Speaker 1: insisted she was cremated and did not want an autopsy
Speaker 1: and they were like, no, so we're going to do it.
Speaker 1: And then he brought it on the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought it on the radar himself that it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I, you know, just because of religious
Speaker 2: reasons or whatever, I don't want her to get an autopsy.
Speaker 2: They were kind of like, why are you pushing this
Speaker 2: so hard? So they so they raised the suspicion as well,
Speaker 2: and it all kind of came together.
Speaker 1: So that's when they discovered this poisoned specialist was poisoning
Speaker 1: his wife.
Speaker 2: So and yeah, so he was using a drug called
Speaker 2: I'm gonna screw this up. I wouldn't even call it
Speaker 2: coltru cold True Lean or something. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: it gets a gout medication, a liquid gout medication, and
Speaker 2: obviously it treats the gout, but also if it that's
Speaker 2: like if it's under five milligrams, right, and this so
Speaker 2: this is one thing that people that people don't realize,
Speaker 2: which is which is pretty cool. So this woman she
Speaker 2: goes to the hospital and she's having all of these
Speaker 2: symptoms and everything, and she's really sick and they take
Speaker 2: all this blood work. She she dies a couple days later,
Speaker 2: but like your blood work and your blood we save
Speaker 2: it at the hospital for a little while, so they
Speaker 2: were able to go back and take her blood that
Speaker 2: was taken after she was admitted to the hospital and
Speaker 2: found that she had this drug in her blood and
Speaker 2: it was twenty nine It was twenty nine nanograms, which
Speaker 2: isn't the same as miligrams, but she she had it
Speaker 2: in her s and that was enough for them to
Speaker 2: be like, why would she have this in her system
Speaker 2: at all because she she's not on this medication. Then
Speaker 2: they while they were doing all that research, they also
Speaker 2: found that he was doing weird Google searches trying to
Speaker 2: see what her weight was. You know, like how medications
Speaker 2: are based the doses of medications are based on your weight,
Speaker 2: So he was trying to figure out like what her
Speaker 2: weight was as opposed to what like amounts she would need,
Speaker 2: which is like why would he be looking that up right?
Speaker 2: So and then of course everything on foils, like when
Speaker 2: they figured out that this that that he did this
Speaker 2: and everything, and what does it boil down to? Money? Money?
Speaker 2: Always in debt.
Speaker 1: He had astronomical debt. They were considering her, according to
Speaker 1: her friends, that she was considering getting a divorce and
Speaker 1: he wanted the life insurance money.
Speaker 2: Didn't he say something to so Apparently he was four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in debt. I don't even
Speaker 2: know why. I mean, I guess a lot of that
Speaker 2: could be medical school or whatever. But he said to
Speaker 2: somebody that he was going to get a five hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars life insurance policy when she died.
Speaker 1: Well, if he took it out on her then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I think that that's so amazing when
Speaker 1: people do stuff like that, Like, how could you hate
Speaker 1: somebody that much that you're going to kill them just
Speaker 1: so you can get money to get out of financial trouble.
Speaker 2: It's like really scary.
Speaker 1: Actually, well, as we see, it's quite common to take
Speaker 1: life insurance out. But why this is relevant now is
Speaker 1: because initially he was charged with second degree murder, which
Speaker 1: really confused us because it was obvious it was planned.
Speaker 1: But now it's been upgraded to first degree premeditated murder,
Speaker 1: which maybe they have to wait till a grand jury
Speaker 1: has enough evidence to go with the charge that severe.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but he is now
Speaker 1: formally charged with first degree premeditated murder and he's expected
Speaker 1: to be arraigned.
Speaker 2: In five days. Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, like your spouse and of nothing happened,
Speaker 1: and also.
Speaker 2: Why like do you know hard it is to go
Speaker 2: to like to go to medical school, to get into
Speaker 2: medical school, Like what are you doing, dude, Like what
Speaker 2: are you thinking?
Speaker 1: And like I feel like there's this there's this sense
Speaker 1: of I don't even know, like where young people, especially
Speaker 1: my age or in their early thirties, don't understand it's
Speaker 1: like okay to be in some debt for for a while,
Speaker 1: Like it's just not realistic that all of your debt
Speaker 1: is going to be cleared by the time you're.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, you know what? You know what actually tripped
Speaker 2: out by it? You know what? I was thinking, Like
Speaker 2: it's possible that he could have got away with this,
Speaker 2: honestly because the normal toxicology that they would do at
Speaker 2: the emmy's office would not test for this drug because
Speaker 2: why would they. She wasn't on it and it's it's
Speaker 2: not a common drug. If he didn't act so shady
Speaker 2: with the like pressing for a cremation thing, even though
Speaker 2: her blood was in the hospital, so even if she
Speaker 2: got cremated, they don't even need her body, Like that's
Speaker 2: just you're a moron, and you're a doctor, right, Like
Speaker 2: you don't know how this shit happens. That's the thing
Speaker 2: like they a lot of residents and stuff like, they
Speaker 2: have no idea what the process is in the hospital,
Speaker 2: and he should have known that right away. But that's
Speaker 2: kind of a side note. But yeah, if they didn't,
Speaker 2: if they didn't test for that, and he wasn't doing
Speaker 2: those Google searches, he probably more than likely would have
Speaker 2: got away with it. They would have just been like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like she you know, sometimes they just
Speaker 2: don't know how people died, and she got sick and
Speaker 2: that's it. He I mean, it's it's kind of his fault,
Speaker 2: but just I mean, I'm glad he got caught, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's an absolute idiot, all right.
Speaker 1: Medical News, Yeah, this is really scary. This lady was
Speaker 1: thirty five weeks pregnant. She went to the hospital with
Speaker 1: severe chest pain. They blew it off as a panic
Speaker 1: attack and indigestion, and then about a week later it
Speaker 1: came back really strongly. And this is where I feel
Speaker 1: really badly about it, is because her husband really was
Speaker 1: you need to go back to the hospital, and she
Speaker 1: didn't want to because she was afraid of being dismissed
Speaker 1: and blown off again. But he really encouraged her to
Speaker 1: go back and it ended up being this huge problem.
Speaker 2: So she gets to the hospital and they decide that
Speaker 2: they're going to do a CT scan. And while she's
Speaker 2: at the hospital, there happens to be a family member
Speaker 2: there that works there that's just like says the key word,
Speaker 2: which I'm not sure she ever said to her doctor.
Speaker 2: So we don't want to percent blame doctors right away,
Speaker 2: because if she didn't say this, I don't think that
Speaker 2: she was dismissed. So the family members, like we five
Speaker 2: people in our family that have more fans and have
Speaker 2: had an aortic dissection before, I think you should do
Speaker 2: like an extended CT scan on her. So all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, like if doctors heard that from day one,
Speaker 2: she wouldn't have been dismissed. I'm not sure that they
Speaker 2: heard that from day one, That's all I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: they listen to this family member who then does the
Speaker 2: more extensive scan and they find out in fact that
Speaker 2: even though she doesn't have symptoms of marfans, so mar
Speaker 2: fans is a connective tissue disorder and it is genetic,
Speaker 2: so she doesn't look like she has more fans. They
Speaker 2: always say that that there's a possibility that like President
Speaker 2: Lincoln had it. It's a very like tall stature, and
Speaker 2: they have very long fingers, and there's all these different
Speaker 2: sorts of things that you see with people with marfans,
Speaker 2: and she didn't have any of them. But it is
Speaker 2: a genetic connective tissue disorder. So they looked into it
Speaker 2: and like, yes, she has an aortic dissection. An aortic
Speaker 2: dissection is basically like your aorta has three different layers,
Speaker 2: and if there's a tear in the middle layer, the
Speaker 2: blood goes instead of being in the tube of your
Speaker 2: aort it, it starts going up in between the two layers.
Speaker 2: And so instead of the blood going to the heart
Speaker 2: and going around the body and everything, or from the
Speaker 2: heart and going around the rest of the body to
Speaker 2: supply oxygenated blood, it's now going up this new like
Speaker 2: track that it's created, or it's dissecting up inside the
Speaker 2: layers of the aorta, and that could cause a massive
Speaker 2: bulging that could eventually burst, and if it bursts, forget it,
Speaker 2: you'll die. But she was at the point where it
Speaker 2: was dissecting up and it was They really treat it
Speaker 2: as an emergency because if that thing bursts forget it.
Speaker 2: They can't help you. This is actually how John Ritter died.
Speaker 2: We did a celebrity death dissection on him years ago.
Speaker 2: So it's it really is a medical emergency, and it's
Speaker 2: just it's kind of rare. And it's even more rare
Speaker 2: because this lady was thirty five weeks pregnant, so luckily
Speaker 2: she was so far along. But they basically came to
Speaker 2: her and said, we're metavacing you right now and you're
Speaker 2: delivering this baby and getting open heart surgery like that
Speaker 2: all happened. Could you imagine ite and delivered that news. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's it's so scary. So they they said, you know,
Speaker 2: they they she had great doctors. They did a great job.
Speaker 2: She she delivered the baby. Obviously she couldn't see the
Speaker 2: baby really right after. I mean she did see the baby,
Speaker 2: but didn't know she did. So they were doing all
Speaker 2: this cool stuff while she was in the ICU. Skin
Speaker 2: to skin.
Speaker 1: They would like put the baby, the naked baby, like
Speaker 1: on her skin just so she could create some kind
Speaker 1: of a bond, which.
Speaker 2: Which is really great that they did that. And so
Speaker 2: she's fine, and but she did get diagnosed with another
Speaker 2: genetic connective tissue disorder called Loy's deets, which is even
Speaker 2: more rare. But they're saying, like, you can't have another baby, like,
Speaker 2: don't even try it.
Speaker 1: You know, at least at least she was able to
Speaker 1: have a healthy baby out of this situation. It is
Speaker 1: sad that it's probably it's the end of her like
Speaker 1: pregnancy journey, but at least there's other options today if
Speaker 1: she did when I have more children, and she did
Speaker 1: have that satisfaction of having her own child. It's this
Speaker 1: situation so insane to me, but it's awesome to see
Speaker 1: that both scenarios ended up coming out.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god. Yeah, Like I mean they literally
Speaker 2: told her husband, like your wife almost died and you
Speaker 2: almost lost your wife and baby. I mean, thank god
Speaker 2: for him, but really thank god for the family member
Speaker 2: who said something, because I don't think I think of
Speaker 2: a thirty five year old woman goes into the emergency
Speaker 2: room that's pregnant, that's having what symptoms she was having.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's messed up for them to think
Speaker 2: that she was having panic attack. That's the more likely situation.
Speaker 2: But if you if you have any family history of
Speaker 2: like a weird syndrome, or anything. You have to tell
Speaker 2: the doctors because it just changes their whole course of
Speaker 2: what they're going to be looking for.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in another unusual tale of pregnancy, this is
Speaker 1: the Sistant.
Speaker 2: This story is like I don't even know if it
Speaker 2: even fits on our podcast, but like I feel like
Speaker 2: I have to talk about it because it's just the
Speaker 2: craziest shit. A twenty eight year old is.
Speaker 1: Being held in jail pending a trial for committing a
Speaker 1: murder and her mother was quite shocked to find that
Speaker 1: she is pregnant. And it turns out that she got
Speaker 1: pregnant because another inmate on the floor above her passed
Speaker 1: her a seman filled glove through the air conditioning vent
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions, and it all went from there.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, in theory, that's like artificial insemination, right,
Speaker 2: Like it could happen, It could work. In theory. The
Speaker 2: mom is saying that she never met this dude, she
Speaker 2: only has a relationship through the heater vent with him,
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Mean that's a thing. People talk through the toilet love. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this whole show on Netflix where they like showed
Speaker 1: them talking through the toilets.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, in a in a city, prison that was like
Speaker 2: stacked multiple ves. Yeah, so that's like exactly what happened,
Speaker 2: except it's a heater vent. So they came up with
Speaker 2: the idea of him getting her pregnant. I mean, do
Speaker 2: you think that she was like, Hey, can you send
Speaker 2: me a photo of yourself through the heater vent so
Speaker 2: I could like see who I'm about to have a
Speaker 2: baby with.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't think when you're at that level you care.
Speaker 1: And he's since been removed from the facility. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of sad because they just wanted to be together
Speaker 1: and they're never gonna touch, so let them talk through
Speaker 1: the vent. Who cares they only could touch through a glove.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that really happened? But it I
Speaker 1: think really crazy stuff goes on in jails and it
Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't like I don't think it's out of
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. Yeah, so I or or a
Speaker 1: guard got her pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she's making that excuse up, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: feel like it just should be impossib It is kind
Speaker 2: of crazy that people have been in jail forever, right,
Speaker 2: and and it's like they these criminals just keep coming
Speaker 2: up with new ways to escape. Jail and to do
Speaker 2: things like this. It's it's just like they like the
Speaker 2: people in charge, just can't outsmart them. Ever, it's how
Speaker 2: how again related to Philly.
Speaker 1: Remember, like nothing was more insane than that guy crab
Speaker 1: walking off of the wall.
Speaker 2: At that jail. Oh yeah, exactly. But and then he
Speaker 2: was on the run for a while. Yeah. Near my
Speaker 2: in law's house.
Speaker 1: It was like they closed long gardens. Yet exactly, he
Speaker 1: was hiding in Long with gardens. They didn't just even
Speaker 1: close it for no reason. He was on the property. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'd hide there too.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this story in medical news is it's kind
Speaker 2: of fun. I and I'm curious of your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: The University of Maryland School of Public Health is trying
Speaker 2: to learn how illness spreads. So they want to know
Speaker 2: if you would like to spend two months with them
Speaker 2: in a hotel room, and they'll pay you nineteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: But the caveat is is that they're going to put
Speaker 2: a person has the flu there and you're probably gonna
Speaker 2: get it. I don't think that's enough money. It's even
Speaker 2: if you were just going for two months for nineteen
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to sit there in a room. It's not
Speaker 2: enough money because that means you can't be going to work.
Speaker 1: I mean technically, take me, for example, technically I could
Speaker 1: work out of a hotel room, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You could, I guess, I guess if they're saying that
Speaker 2: you can that you could just do your normal thing,
Speaker 2: if you're like working from home or something.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so nineteen hundred dollars would be extra money
Speaker 1: for me because technically I can execute my Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you could from it and you could do two jobs
Speaker 1: at once, then that's fine. But are you like gonna
Speaker 1: feel like doing your work if you have the flu?
Speaker 1: Because Uncle Louis had it last week and he's a
Speaker 1: hard worker and not like that, and he was like
Speaker 1: laid up in bed for a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Like what's why would anybody want to intentionally get the flu?
Speaker 2: You feel like you're going to drop dead? Like why
Speaker 2: would anybody want that?
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I mean people might want to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Now ten thousand dollars. Ten thousand dollars might be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll try it, but it's not even that's a different story.
Speaker 2: It's not even that though, Like the flu, like you
Speaker 2: can die from the flu. You can you can have serious,
Speaker 2: like long term effects from the flu. Why would anybody
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 1: Also, Also, nineteen hundred dollars is not enough to pay
Speaker 1: the average person's bills for one month, let alone too,
Speaker 1: So I just think it's not it's not.
Speaker 2: So basically they're preying on on poor people that are
Speaker 2: desperate to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to be sick, so I don't
Speaker 1: really want to pay. Yeah, if it was if it
Speaker 1: was twenty g's I mean, I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty healthy.
Speaker 1: Like maybe if it was like substantial, but it would have.
Speaker 2: To be substantial enough that you're like, oh, I could
Speaker 2: pay off my student loans or I could pay off
Speaker 2: my mortgage, so you know what I mean, like something
Speaker 2: that was going to be like life changing. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they're just saying that patients will mingle together in the
Speaker 2: air conditioning, air controlled environment, playing games, talking and watching TV.
Speaker 2: And they're going to check to see how the virus
Speaker 2: spreads through air. So this is also being held at
Speaker 2: the Lord Baltimore Hotel, and I just want to say,
Speaker 2: don't go there. I don't want to stay there ever. Again,
Speaker 2: don't go there, right, I don't know who would agree
Speaker 2: to this. Yeah, I don't know either. It's just I'm
Speaker 2: interested in your thoughts for you guys thoughts, because I mean,
Speaker 2: they do medical studies all the time that are like, hey,
Speaker 2: I did it honestly, like I took an experimental HPV
Speaker 2: vaccine when I was in my twenties, which like, in hindsight,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I freaking idiot? But people do that.
Speaker 2: That's what they do. They pray on people that need
Speaker 2: and that don't have a lot of money, particularly like
Speaker 2: college students or people that are out of work or something.
Speaker 1: I see some sometimes that are for you know, like
Speaker 1: migraines or like egg groo treat like.
Speaker 2: Stuff like oh yeah, the donating of the eggs was
Speaker 2: always that's a big one to pray on college students.
Speaker 1: That's a big money maker. Yeah, it is, because we
Speaker 1: get a couple of thousands with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then it's like you have to think about, oh,
Speaker 2: like you're gonna get all these hormones so you're gonna
Speaker 2: be nuts. And then it's like you have a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: like oh, you really shouldn't have sexism because then you're
Speaker 2: like extra gonna get pregnant. There's like all these extra things,
Speaker 2: and then also your kid's gonna be walking around somewhere.
Speaker 1: And then you think, like, I don't think people are
Speaker 1: thinking about that when they.
Speaker 2: Need the money. Yeah, I know, it's just nuts.
Speaker 1: Other death news now, THEAJO Nations opposed to sending human
Speaker 1: remains to the Moon. So let me explain how we
Speaker 1: got to this point, because it seems a little far fetched.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, the first ever private lunar
Speaker 1: lander launched its way to the Moon. So when this
Speaker 1: article was initially written, there was not yet problems that
Speaker 1: had come out later. So if this lunar lander had
Speaker 1: stuck to its landing as planned, it would therefore become
Speaker 1: the first American spacecraft to touch down on the Moon
Speaker 1: since Apollo seventeen in nineteen seventy two. So first question,
Speaker 1: why haven't we been to the Moon in fifty years?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are there's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: happened with NASA and then they did the Space Shuttle
Speaker 2: program and then that ended up bad twice. Also, we
Speaker 2: did high profile dissections on those in the gross room,
Speaker 2: and yeah, they just it's very risky and it's a
Speaker 2: lot of money involved. And there's they're even mixing the
Speaker 2: one to the moon right now, the one that was
Speaker 2: supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So now this one, six hours after its launch,
Speaker 1: had technical difficulties which sprung a leak and caused it
Speaker 1: to lose rocket fuel. So now they don't really know
Speaker 1: the future missions planned for this vessel because they're having
Speaker 1: issues pretty much immediately right So where it gets messy
Speaker 1: is because two companies have sent cremated human remains in
Speaker 1: the lander, as well of other forms of DNA. So
Speaker 1: part of those cream they're called creamines, which I thought
Speaker 1: was a weird word, like combining cremated remains. I've just
Speaker 1: never heard it called cream that's the thing. But the
Speaker 1: creamanes of forty people, including science fiction writer Arthur C.
Speaker 1: Clark and Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, were on this vessel.
Speaker 1: So the Navajo Nation has a problem with this because
Speaker 1: the Moon is central to their religious reliefs, especially in
Speaker 1: most indigenous people groups, so they see landing human remains
Speaker 1: as really offensive and disrespectful to the beliefs. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of arguments against this, saying that space exploration and
Speaker 1: research shouldn't be halted for religious beliefs, which I think
Speaker 1: this is teetering a weird line of like I think
Speaker 1: there's a way to go about it that's respectful, but
Speaker 1: also like I agree that you can't halt research because
Speaker 1: you just can't please everybody, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. Well, apparently since nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: I never knew this until today. You could have a
Speaker 2: burial at space instead of at Z or wherever you choose,
Speaker 2: so you can you could choose to either be orbit
Speaker 2: around the Earth, be sent into deep space, or you
Speaker 2: can be go to the moon. And that was one
Speaker 2: of the things on this flight, this particular flight that
Speaker 2: was happening right now, is that they're just sending people
Speaker 2: there that want to be cremated at space, which oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think, which is like I think there that's
Speaker 2: why you say with like the Navajo people and stuff,
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know why you can't respect their
Speaker 2: feelings because like it doesn't need to happen. It's just
Speaker 2: like if they feel if a whole entire group of
Speaker 2: people feel that way about it, and like it's kind
Speaker 2: of so. So these space burials are start off at
Speaker 2: twenty four hundred and ninety five dollars, right, so to
Speaker 2: send them to send a capsule of cremated remains to
Speaker 2: the moon or something, it is it's that is that much?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? That's three thousand dollars like this,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, but if you get cremated, it's yeah. But
Speaker 2: if you get cremated.
Speaker 1: And you don't want a full ass funeral, like, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get I guess it's cheaper than a funeral,
Speaker 2: like it does come with a memorial service.
Speaker 1: Too, So exactly, I don't know. I'm seeing it as
Speaker 1: you're you're putting it on your list of things that
Speaker 1: you I don't want to go to space ever, I do.
Speaker 1: Actually I told you I want to be in the Smokies.
Speaker 2: I want to be in space. But like when my
Speaker 2: big toe is cremated inside of like a capsule, I
Speaker 2: don't think that I'm really gonna I'm really gonna care
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well, I think the way they're getting around
Speaker 1: it is that the remains will not like ever touch
Speaker 1: the Moon. They're just going to be in the vessel
Speaker 1: that orbits the Moon. So I think that's the compromise
Speaker 1: that has been made.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not going anyway. Right, that's this is their like,
Speaker 2: this is their karma thing that they're they said, Na Navajo,
Speaker 2: we're ignoring you. We're gonna send this thing up anyway,
Speaker 2: and now it don't work. Isn't that interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like, like I said earlier, I think there's a
Speaker 1: way of going about it that's respecting somebody's culture but
Speaker 1: also like not halting important research or well.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm trying to tell you, Like it's frivolous.
Speaker 2: It's not like like I could see if they want
Speaker 2: to put human like actual human remains, I don't know,
Speaker 2: lungs or something in some kind of machine to see
Speaker 2: how people breathe up there, Like that's research just because
Speaker 2: you want to see if there could be life up there,
Speaker 2: if you could, if you could live up there. Right
Speaker 2: you don't, Yeah, you don't just saying like oh, so
Speaker 2: and so wants to be buried on the moon, like
Speaker 2: that's it's just frivolous. It's like not necessary. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I mean it.
Speaker 1: It it ain't happen in any way. Like they're exactly
Speaker 1: major technical difficulty.
Speaker 2: We're turning around and that's it.
Speaker 1: They're not even going Navajo Nation put it in the
Speaker 1: universe that they did not want this to happen, and
Speaker 1: it's not happening. So I think that A, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: But I I like that philosophy of thinking that it's
Speaker 1: really deep spiritually and you shouldn't alter that. I like that,
Speaker 1: So I'm on their side about this. These stupid rich
Speaker 1: people are like sending these rockets up and have no
Speaker 1: idea what they're doing and they fail. Also jokes on them. Okay,
Speaker 1: onto the Questions of the Day. Every Friday on the
Speaker 1: at Mother Knows Death Instagram, we post a little question
Speaker 1: box so you could ask whatever question you have. It
Speaker 1: could be personal, medical, whatever you want. We have no
Speaker 1: problem saying pretty.
Speaker 2: Much anything on our mind. So first, will we ever
Speaker 2: do live shows? I don't know. I never really thought
Speaker 2: about us as you. No, I don't know how you
Speaker 2: really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like, I guess we could do exactly
Speaker 1: what we're doing now, but on a stage and then
Speaker 1: take audience questions. I mean, it wouldn't really be hard
Speaker 1: to change the format. We probably just sit on a
Speaker 1: stage with an iPad with notes and yeah talking, I
Speaker 1: mean we could. No, I'm not opposed to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not opposed. We just gotta see what the deal is.
Speaker 1: This is from our dear friend Amy Lochran. Are you
Speaker 1: freaked out when alone in a room with a corpse?
Speaker 2: Now not. I've been alone in the work plenty of
Speaker 2: times at a dead person. I just don't really, I
Speaker 2: don't really care.
Speaker 1: I I think i'd really care, but I'm not as decents.
Speaker 2: But think about this, like, why is it gonna like
Speaker 2: what's it going to do to you? It's literally safer
Speaker 2: than a live thing, Like it's safer them being next
Speaker 2: to a live person. They can't do anything, they're dead.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm somebody that has to like talk a lot,
Speaker 1: as you know, when I'm in a comfortable situation. So
Speaker 1: if I can't talk to like a body just laying there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make me.
Speaker 2: Put on a podcast. It's it's just it's the same
Speaker 2: exact thing as having a steak on your countertop. It's
Speaker 2: not it's not going to attack you are it was
Speaker 2: a person? And it was like, what's the difference? But
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't often deal with cows thinking of them in
Speaker 1: the live stage. Shut off, You're so ridiculous, last as
Speaker 1: do we ever sleep well?
Speaker 2: You don't sleep ever. You sleep three hours of day,
Speaker 2: so so I don't sleep ever. I sleep like, yeah,
Speaker 2: a good night, A good night's five hours. I just
Speaker 2: don't sleep.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I require that much sleep. But I
Speaker 2: got this like aura ring thing that I've been wearing
Speaker 2: just to tell me how shitty I sleep. And I
Speaker 2: do sleep shitty. I don't what like when you sleep?
Speaker 2: So you wear this ring at night and it tells
Speaker 2: you like lots of different metrics of your body, but
Speaker 2: it tells you how well you slept and how well
Speaker 2: you're prepared for the next day. So your sleep score,
Speaker 2: for example, like what's the highest number it could be,
Speaker 2: or what's the number it should be? I never really
Speaker 2: like look that up. I so I have one too, So.
Speaker 1: I I would say my highest one. I would think
Speaker 1: it would be out of one hundred, right, because it's
Speaker 1: in number. But the highest I've ever had was eighty nine,
Speaker 1: which was really high. But that was a night I
Speaker 1: slept like nine hours over the winter break when you
Speaker 1: were on vacation, So maybe that's why I slept in it.
Speaker 2: I had a.
Speaker 1: Eighty nine, and it told me that that was really good.
Speaker 1: But you know, mine's often I feel like mine's often
Speaker 1: not great. But what I really like about it is
Speaker 1: last night, for example, mine was like a sixty three,
Speaker 1: but I ate dinner really late, and then I was
Speaker 1: reading a book really late, so I didn't go to
Speaker 1: sleep until about midnight. And then I also drank a
Speaker 1: coffee really late yesterday.
Speaker 2: So it'll be like, your.
Speaker 1: Heart didn't steady as easy. What's the terminology they used
Speaker 1: sometimes that my heart rate. Yeah, my resting heart rate
Speaker 1: wasn't great, which they believed meant that I ate too late,
Speaker 1: which I did.
Speaker 2: It is it is really crazy, Like it'll say like,
Speaker 2: what did you do different? Did you eat late last night?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, this thing knows. It's like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's good though, because now especially like I kind
Speaker 2: of already knew that, but now that I see like this,
Speaker 2: I constantly I'm like, you could ask Maria if you
Speaker 2: notice since I started wearing it that I'm like crazy
Speaker 2: about eating dinner at fi like no later than six o'clock.
Speaker 2: I just because it really it really makes me sleep
Speaker 2: worse than I normally sleep, So I'm like getting a
Speaker 2: little bit hardcore about it. So it's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool, and like from a data perspective, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was sick a couple of weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you could tell in the episode I'm sick, I
Speaker 1: like had a fever and I looked at it gives
Speaker 1: you a little chart of where your heart is and
Speaker 1: your stress and your calm levels every day, and it's
Speaker 1: insane from a data point of view, seeing what a
Speaker 1: day being sick is versus a normal day I was.
Speaker 1: It gives you these little red lines when you're stressed out,
Speaker 1: and it was read the entire day, not just blips
Speaker 1: of the day. My heart rate was elevated because I
Speaker 1: was sick, So that was definitely interesting to see. And
Speaker 1: I just don't even think I realized the impact that
Speaker 1: has on my body.
Speaker 2: Also, I use.
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Speaker 1: to that. So that's been amazing because for four years
Speaker 1: I had to take my temperature with a thermometer every
Speaker 1: single day and I can't tell you how annoying that is,
Speaker 1: and cleaning it and like if you forget to do it,
Speaker 1: it's very annoying. And now I just wake up and
Speaker 1: I open the app and it puts it in and
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Speaker 1: also sinks up with apps like Natural Cycles.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. Yeah, and I have. I'm a
Speaker 2: gold person. It looks good with my gold rings. How
Speaker 2: about you? Yours is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, so it's cool. Like I they recommend
Speaker 1: you wear it on your corner finger. I wear it
Speaker 1: on my middle finger because I go in and out
Speaker 1: of just being bloated because I eat so much salt,
Speaker 1: which I need to work on. But yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: really cool to have.
Speaker 2: I hated it. I hated it for the first day.
Speaker 1: I remember, I was like, I can't do this because
Speaker 1: I'm not used to wearing I'm not used to wearing
Speaker 1: any rings except my wedding ring.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, it's too it's too tight,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know I just had all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So then I ordered another size to wear it on
Speaker 2: a different finger, and by the time that one came,
Speaker 2: I was like, now I'm used to this one. Now
Speaker 2: I just get like, really, I don't. I'm not like
Speaker 2: a ring person, but I just take it off. Really,
Speaker 2: I only take it off when I'm cooking dinner and
Speaker 2: put it on the little charger and then I just
Speaker 2: wear it all the time because it's good to have
Speaker 2: that kind of data of what your heart rate is
Speaker 2: every day and stuff, especially for me as you get older,
Speaker 2: but it's really good too for people that work out
Speaker 2: and stuff that you can monitor all of that that
Speaker 2: stuff as well without I don't. I don't like. The
Speaker 2: one that Gabe has is like a watch and it's
Speaker 2: a little bit more bulky, so.
Speaker 1: Or for lazy bums like me, and it'll be like,
Speaker 1: do you want to stretch your legs a little bit?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, it's really it's really odd. The
Speaker 2: only time I ever saw that is when we drove
Speaker 2: down the Key West and we were in the car
Speaker 2: for like so many hours every day. It was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to get up and stretch your legs out
Speaker 2: a little bit? I mean, I you.
Speaker 1: You do all the content for the website and Instagram
Speaker 1: and everything, but editing the like I edit these episodes,
Speaker 1: and that takes a couple of hours after we record it.
Speaker 1: So I just sit. I feel like way longer than you.
Speaker 1: But I really need to work on in the morning,
Speaker 1: just walking around my house much, I think because it's
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah. True. Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor, and I
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