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Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hanson. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys? How are you buddy?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you fellas? I'm great? That was

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Speaker 1: how are your sandwiches yesterday? Oh yeah, that's right. We're

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Speaker 1: you go, get my lunch? The last part it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be implay. Yes, Dan, you are in a d

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Speaker 1: deep hole. You owed a lot. This is all on

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Speaker 1: I was buying Greg pulled pork sandwich from Jackson Market

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Speaker 1: the great NFL analysts and scout man and former NFL player,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks has been on the show several times before.

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Speaker 1: the week on NFL dot com Slash Around the League,

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Speaker 1: also NFL dot com Slash Training Camp Preview Vanity, and

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Speaker 1: what he does on defense because they haven't had the

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Speaker 1: personnel the last few years. And now you have Reevers

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Speaker 1: who changes everything, and you have Jamie Collins who you

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Speaker 1: can move all around, you know, and even Brandon Browning

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Speaker 1: Like Brandon Brown is not necessarily the most talented covered corner,

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Speaker 1: but he can beat you up on the outside. And

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Speaker 1: when the Patriots were able to do have an affinity

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Speaker 1: for him because I gave him a huge grade when

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Speaker 1: he was coming out of organ State. But go back

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Speaker 1: and think like Otis Smith and as other guys like

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Speaker 1: he kind of likes Juckyard dogs. In the back end,

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Speaker 1: Revis is the number one guy Brandon Brown and goes

440
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Speaker 1: and beats up the other guy and then they kind

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Speaker 1: of get after it. I like that. And finally, the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, what are you trying to say about it?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan, Pucket, So we get to learn

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Speaker 1: more about each other. Yes, very good. Now the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets, obviously we don't or is a Jet fan?

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Speaker 1: You don't want the whole training camp to be about

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick versus Gino Smith, but it cannot be ignored.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be the major subplot here. How do

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Speaker 1: we see a planet? Why not make it about it?

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Speaker 1: That's it's not as as good a quarterback battle as

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Speaker 1: we have usually. It's it's like Chad Henny versus some nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Vick's one of the most exciting players

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Speaker 1: last decade. Gino is a high pick. It's good. I'll

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Speaker 1: state my my opinion on this again. And we know

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Speaker 1: it's been laid out by all the coaching staff. Gino

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Speaker 1: is gonna get the starter reps, so the deck is stacked.

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick was right, this is not a true competition.

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Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see Gino unless he absolutely

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Speaker 1: implodes during training camp and in the preseason. Gino is

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Speaker 1: going to be the starter and Mike Phick will be

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Speaker 1: the starter by Halloween and everybody play. Here's the thing though,

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Speaker 1: so much and Bucky, maybe you can explain this to me.

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Speaker 1: So much emphasis is placed on six possessions of offense

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. Let's say, you know, the first couple

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Speaker 1: of games, if Gino struggles in those six possessions, you

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Speaker 1: know people are gonna start talking why the teams put

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Speaker 1: so much emphasis on those preseason series. When it's such

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Speaker 1: a small group of plays, it is a small sample size.

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Speaker 1: Most teams actually take what what happens and practice all

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Speaker 1: those team periods, the scrimmages. They add all of that

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Speaker 1: into the mix. But you're right because when you look

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Speaker 1: at the preseason, you really don't start game planning and

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Speaker 1: getting into it into the third week of preseason. That's

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Speaker 1: when you truly have a game plan. You're designing your

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Speaker 1: plays and your script to attack the other team. The

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Speaker 1: rest of the stuff is you're really just calling plays,

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Speaker 1: just trying to see what stuff looks like on tape.

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Speaker 1: And so it's at an advantageous situation for a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback for Gino and talking and talking about this quarterback competition,

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Speaker 1: the best thing for the Jets would be for Gino

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Speaker 1: to win it out right, because as a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you would like to have a young guy in plays

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Speaker 1: that they could build around. Is he up to the job?

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Speaker 1: I saw flashes last year this show and suggested to

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Speaker 1: me that he could be a capable starting quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. They have a better running game

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Speaker 1: this year with Chris Johnson coming over. They've done some

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Speaker 1: things in the passing game, with Eric Decker and some

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Speaker 1: of the young guys coming over receiver, they should be

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Speaker 1: better on offense, but it comes down to how well

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Speaker 1: their defense plays it. The defense plays lights out, they

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Speaker 1: have a chance. Well looking at that defense, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we feel like John izick Uh kind of put

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan on hostage last year and just organized the draft.

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Speaker 1: But looking at Calvin Pryor, that is a Rex Ryan

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Speaker 1: build up the middle type of safety pick. What do

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Speaker 1: you think we can see out of him even in

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Speaker 1: early preseason going into the early part of the year. Well,

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Speaker 1: they wanted someone that could give some toughness. They needed

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Speaker 1: an intimidated The game is still about trying to create

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Speaker 1: fear venturing across the middle. Calvin Pryor is the headhunter

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Speaker 1: guy that knocks people out like that. On the outside.

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Speaker 1: Their young quarterbacks have to step up Deep Milner has

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Speaker 1: to be a player. They got to figure out what

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Speaker 1: Wilson is going to be on the outside. If they

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Speaker 1: can just get decent coverage. They're so creative in the

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Speaker 1: way they come up with the schemes. Dennis Thurman and

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan find a way to attack the press. The quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I like what they do from a schematic standpoint, back

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Speaker 1: in has to play better, and then on offense, they

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Speaker 1: have to find a way to score moreism. That's the

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Speaker 1: word group of cornerbacks Rex Ryan's ever coached find find

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Speaker 1: the group from Baltimore to the Jets to any of

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Speaker 1: his days that's worse than this. It's the first year

515
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Speaker 1: since two thousand and six either Rievas or Krimarti are

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Speaker 1: not back there. It's the youngest group he's ever had,

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Speaker 1: and they're putting a lot, a lot into d Millner

518
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Speaker 1: building off the end of last season, because if he regresses,

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Speaker 1: there is really nothing behind him to get excited about.

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Speaker 1: Dmitri Patterson is probably the other cornerbacks starting here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this could be the Achilles heal and it was last year.

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Speaker 1: They got burned on deep plays a lot. Uh and

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Speaker 1: they also only had eleven interceptions as a group. So

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Speaker 1: the secondary is the biggest week us I think for

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Speaker 1: this team. Still a little a f C North maybe

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Speaker 1: next Mark Claire, all right, you wrote this one up,

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start with why not the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens Mark's favorite? We will go, Yeah, my favorite, such

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Speaker 1: a dear team to my heart. Uh, you know, John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh said, this is a top five defense, which was

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Speaker 1: not the case last year. But they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of young guys. Some of them may be playing out

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Speaker 1: of position. Are we gonna see hints out of c. J. Moseley?

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Speaker 1: You've got interesting player at safety as well. Does Baltimore

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Speaker 1: actually have a top five defense? Man? It's tough. When

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Speaker 1: I look at the other defense in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if theory in that upper echelon. I

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Speaker 1: think there's some talented pieces. I think Sizzle gives him

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Speaker 1: a terrific rusher off the edge, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: who the complimentary rushier is. I know Elvis Doomingville is

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Speaker 1: kind of in that role, but anymore than just those guys.

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Speaker 1: And then on the outside, I like Jimmy Sman for

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Speaker 1: like Ladarius Well. I like what matt Elam can be,

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Speaker 1: but that interior dead line back Darryl Smith is solid. Uh.

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Speaker 1: C J. Mouley has to play. I just don't get

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Speaker 1: the impression that this is a top five And when

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Speaker 1: I look at pay from like man, I'm scared of

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Speaker 1: playing the Baltimore Ravens on and on offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: with Ray Rice has been the man in the backfield

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Speaker 1: for stretching back half a decade. He's lighter, they say

551
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Speaker 1: is hip injuries in the past. He may be faster

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Speaker 1: as well. But they're also giving hints that this is

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Speaker 1: a backfield by committee with Bernard Pierson a cast of others.

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Speaker 1: How do we see that breaking down. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Rice is even gonna be available to play because

556
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Speaker 1: he might get suspended for the first month, and I

557
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get out of him this year.

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Speaker 1: He had such a surprising step back last season. You

559
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Speaker 1: usually don't see running backs bounce back that's strong for that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he bounces back to good or okay, but not

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Speaker 1: back to the old Ray Rice. No. I mean a

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Speaker 1: ton of touches early in his career, Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have tried to make Joe Flacco to be

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Speaker 1: kind of like the guy that was carrying at offense,

565
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Speaker 1: but whenever you got nut cut in time for them,

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Speaker 1: they leaned on Ray Rice. And so because Gary Kobia

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Speaker 1: comes over, I understand the back back committee because that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the Shanahan thing, and so Bernard Pierce would

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Speaker 1: be the guy that always fain to do the bulk

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Speaker 1: of the carries. I think this offense is a better

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Speaker 1: offense for Joe Flacco. They'll pass more. You see dynamic

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Speaker 1: play action in the backfield. Look for Tori Smith to

573
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Speaker 1: have a big year this year in the offense. And

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Speaker 1: people blame it on the offensive line. It's not the

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Speaker 1: offensive line's fault. When ray Rice is out in space

576
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Speaker 1: and there's a linebacker there, and he always would win

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Speaker 1: that matchup in the path, and he wasn't winning the

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Speaker 1: last years getting tackled. No, he doesn't have the juice

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Speaker 1: that he once had, and I think sometimes it's the

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Speaker 1: cumulative effect of having so many touches. They really leaned

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Speaker 1: on him, and he's a smaller guy. I know people

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Speaker 1: don't like to use size as as a big issue,

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Speaker 1: but when you come into running backs, it takes a lot.

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Speaker 1: You need to have a whammer. If you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: the guy two hundred fifty carries three under touches, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot on who's the whammer in this group. I

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Speaker 1: like that, That's great, I like Dan would said Kevin

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Speaker 1: Patra for sure. You just wait until you see him

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Speaker 1: on Monday. The next team, the Cincinnati ben Gals, Well,

590
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Speaker 1: another team with a very interesting situation in the backfield

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Speaker 1: because I think Hugh Jackson, a friend of yours, Bucky

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Speaker 1: is Uh. He loves running backs, he loves the running game.

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Speaker 1: We saw what he did in Oakland with McFadden and

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00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: he wants to flip the switch with Jeoe Bernard. They

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Speaker 1: also have Jeremy Hill and Ben Jarvis green Ellis might

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Speaker 1: be the odd man out here. You know, Camp's gonna

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00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: tell us a lot about a the formations that are

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Speaker 1: gonna run, how this offense will look in terms of

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00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: maybe less attempts for Randy Dalton. What do you expect

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Speaker 1: to see with what you know from Jackson? Hi tempo.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna go really fast to play again,

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00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: in and out of the huddle real quick. They get

603
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: to the line of scrim and just snap it really quickly.

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna run to football. They're going to be a

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Speaker 1: physical team, uh for those who can pay attention to

606
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: the nuances of the game. A lot of unbalanced line,

607
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot of overshifted tackles, a lot of things to

608
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Speaker 1: try and get numbers, problems at the point of attack

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Speaker 1: running game. I know Ben Jarvis green Ellis is in

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Speaker 1: the mix, but I would expect Jeremy Hill and Geo

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Speaker 1: Bernard to be the bell cow. Jeremy Hill is a

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Speaker 1: guy we just talked about, the whammer. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna pound between the tackles. Hugh Jackson had

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Speaker 1: top ten running games when he was in Oakland. That's

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Speaker 1: how he likes to play the game. That's what I

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Speaker 1: expect to see from since that the coaches show anything

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Speaker 1: at all in the preseason or training camp. Can you

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Speaker 1: really learn what Hugh Jackson's gonna do by watching let's

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Speaker 1: say the people that are at practice every day and

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Speaker 1: then the preseason, do you get a field a little bit?

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Speaker 1: I think you get you get a feel for what

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Speaker 1: they want to do, because at some point they have

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Speaker 1: to practice what they're going to be, whether they shooting

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Speaker 1: games maybe not. But I think if you're there on

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Speaker 1: a consistent basis kind of watching them put it in

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Speaker 1: watching them installed, I think you can get a feel

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Speaker 1: for what he wants to be the one thing that

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Speaker 1: will standout is you can tell about the tempo and

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Speaker 1: you can tell by watching how he's on the quarterback

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Speaker 1: what he wants that guy to do. For Andy Dawn,

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to want him doll it back

632
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but selectively take those shots and find

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Speaker 1: a way to put him in a situation where you

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Speaker 1: can get those home runs. Mark, before we move on,

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Speaker 1: can you just give me a head's up for anyone

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Speaker 1: that's friends with Bucky Brooks, so I know who not

637
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to take shots at friends. Yeah, Mark's plugged in on

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Speaker 1: apparently just you know, maybe a kick under the table. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: all right now, Mark the Cleveland Browns was talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, that is an outrageous way to begin this segment.

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Speaker 1: Producer black time. You know, Johnny Manziel, how do we

642
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Speaker 1: get out of here without discussing him and Hoyer? They

643
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Speaker 1: put Hoyer in the number one role from now and

644
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: that's generally met with laughter by most who just think,

645
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Speaker 1: come on, they're they're organizing an offense for with r

646
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Speaker 1: G three elements for herd even from from a safety

647
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Speaker 1: Dante Wittner last week, You've talked about that in the past.

648
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Speaker 1: Where how does this play out with it being is

649
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Speaker 1: it a real competition? Wiggan? And it can be a

650
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: real competition if Johnny Manziel goes out. In the preseason,

651
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Speaker 1: we talked about those six crucial segments where he's on

652
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Speaker 1: offensive he shows that he's not ready for the pro game.

653
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Speaker 1: I think Brian who is the starter. But if he

654
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Speaker 1: comes in and he flashes in the second half planning

655
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Speaker 1: against backups, he runs around, makes a couple of players,

656
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Speaker 1: getting fan base excited, I think you'll see him get

657
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Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to be the opening day starter. He's

658
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: a different player, He's someone that is not for everybody.

659
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: But I think because Kyle Shanahan was on board bringing

660
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Speaker 1: him in, you have to build offense around his skill set,

661
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Speaker 1: and so I would just spect to see him be

662
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Speaker 1: in the mix. I not all opening day. I would

663
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Speaker 1: think by the end of the first quarter season he

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Speaker 1: has to be the starter. Bucket is a regular listener

665
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Speaker 1: of the podcast. I know you know that Chris Westling

666
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Speaker 1: has agreed to eat his softball pants if Johnny Manzel

667
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Speaker 1: is not the Week one starter. I mean, I think

668
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: he's I think he's okay in terms of like being

669
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Speaker 1: able to bet on that, I don't. I just can't imagine.

670
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Like everyone is excited about Brian Horriy, but what really

671
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: is Brian Horrier done. I know he had three and

672
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: one record last year, but when you were literally at

673
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: the numbers, he didn't light it up and one good game.

674
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Speaker 1: He had a strong game. He had threw three picks

675
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Speaker 1: in the game, but also made some plays. There's not

676
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Speaker 1: that's West's whole angle. He's that, you know, look at

677
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Speaker 1: what he's done, and he's coming off a major knee injury.

678
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Speaker 1: And Johnny Man I like that he quoted Lebron and

679
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Speaker 1: talked about what they're about. That was a shot. I

680
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Speaker 1: thought a little bit like this, That was a little

681
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Speaker 1: bit of a shot. He he feels he's probably underlooked for,

682
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Speaker 1: you know, a guy that has just put in in

683
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Speaker 1: the in the hours in the practice while Manzille is

684
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Speaker 1: catching all this attention. Mark One aspect of the offense

685
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Speaker 1: also that I'm very interested in is the backfield. How

686
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Speaker 1: are they going to distribute and how do you see

687
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: anyway in training camp how he gets split up, you

688
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: know with pett and he seems to give you the

689
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: truth enough on what he plans to do. And they've

690
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Speaker 1: said over and over we're going to be a backfield

691
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Speaker 1: by committee. I think when they drafted Terence West, it

692
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: was in the mold of I think they see some

693
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris and him and Tate and West both fit

694
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Speaker 1: very well into Shanahan's zone blocking scheme, and that's why

695
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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback question is a little bit overrated

696
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Speaker 1: at this stage, because either way, I think they're gonna

697
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Speaker 1: run this football all day long. I think I don't

698
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Speaker 1: know if the quarterback situation could be overrated, though. I mean,

699
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Speaker 1: I just think it's not the only way this offense one.

700
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Speaker 1: They were They led the league in past attempts last year,

701
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Speaker 1: and I think that they may lead the a f

702
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Speaker 1: C at least in in rush attempts this season. Well,

703
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's how he wants to play,

704
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Speaker 1: I think, and he's of me have a defensive mind

705
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: to head coach in charge, he wants to run the

706
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: football to really preserve his defense and make games tight.

707
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: For the Browns. They have two running backs in Terrence

708
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: West and Bante that should be very, very productive in

709
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Speaker 1: the zone base blocking scheme. And so if she sticks

710
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Speaker 1: to his guns and runs the football and finds a

711
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Speaker 1: way to play action, whether there's Johnny Manziel or Brian

712
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Speaker 1: Hoyer out the back door, just think about what the

713
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Speaker 1: Houston Texas have done. It's the same office. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I would expect him to have that

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Speaker 1: kind of six and it sets up for Johnny Manzel

716
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Speaker 1: to win because when you're asking your quarterback to just

717
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Speaker 1: make three or four big plays, he's that guy. Hoyer

718
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Speaker 1: is not that guy. And if he can just do

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Speaker 1: that in the preseason when he gets on the field

720
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Speaker 1: kind of like Russell Wilson did in Seattle, I mean,

721
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Speaker 1: he was about perfect for those six possessions, so people

722
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Speaker 1: were just, Okay, we gotta play him. There's no choice, alright.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers finally in the af C North. I mean,

724
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Speaker 1: we could go backfield with all these teams. When I

725
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Speaker 1: look at Pittsburgh, one one position group that jumps out

726
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: to me is how they got younger and more dynamic

727
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Speaker 1: and wide receiver. You've got Antonio Brown, of course, but

728
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: one of our making the lead candidates was Marcus Wheaton.

729
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: And we're hearing a lot about Martevis Bryant as well

730
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Speaker 1: as a as a big, tall guy that they wanted

731
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Speaker 1: to target in the draft. Want player like that who's

732
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Speaker 1: a red zone threat. Potentially, How does this all shake out?

733
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Speaker 1: What do you think their goal is with a guy

734
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: like Briant, and where do they want Wheaton to be

735
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Speaker 1: at the end of this preseason well, I mean, I

736
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Speaker 1: think when you look at wide receiver corps, think of

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Speaker 1: it as a basketball team. You want to have different

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Speaker 1: skill sets available, and so if Antonio Brown is your

739
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Speaker 1: number one receiver, he's kind of your smaller, shorter, quicker

740
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Speaker 1: guy that can do all the routes. Marcus Wheaton is

741
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Speaker 1: just beast to distress to feel. Martevis Bryant is your

742
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Speaker 1: red zone weapons. So I think Todd Hayley will do

743
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Speaker 1: a good job of giving these guys roles, and in

744
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: those roles, those guys will shine. I like their offense,

745
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: but I'm more impressed with not even the receiver corps.

746
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Speaker 1: I think Levy and Bill is going to prove the

747
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: people that he's a dominant player in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that we're making the leap Kenvin Jackson

749
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Speaker 1: when he was coming out of college. I think he

750
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Speaker 1: has ability to not only be a guy who can

751
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Speaker 1: get you to out a thirteen hundred yards as a Russia,

752
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: but I could think he could finished with maybe four

753
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: hundred to five hundred receiving yards because he's that good.

754
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: That's what he did in Michigan Stead. If you're a

755
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: fantasy guy, are you concerned that you picked Bell and

756
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: that guy is gonna eat all year long. But then

757
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt is gonna come in and hammer in the

758
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: touchdown from three two yards and that's always a possibility.

759
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: That is always. But I like the fact that Mike

760
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Tomland I think their intent on getting back to playing

761
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stealers football, which is being physical, being rough and

762
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: rugged on offense, but also having a defense that kind

763
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Speaker 1: of sets the table. I like the Stealers. They're kind

764
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Speaker 1: of like the sneaky dark horse to you know, what

765
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: we need more of is Todd Haley drama. The league

766
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: is more fun. Things are just kind of happening with Todd.

767
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: Haley's prickly with the media. If he's winning, it gets

768
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: a little cocky. He has some fun with it. I

769
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Speaker 1: think that's happening this year. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: it is. I think they didn't get back. You know,

771
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Speaker 1: don't don't sleep on Mike Tomland. He enjoys kind of

772
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: being like the prickly personality. Yeah, likes when he likes

773
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: kind of letting everyone know they did get faster. But

774
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: because you get Ryan Shazier linebacker fastest linebacker since Brian

775
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: or a locker and in Tree Archer on offense. We

776
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with him. Maybe just a

777
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: special teams guy early, but the old Warren sap Olden

778
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: slow business that is stage left. No. I mean when

779
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: you're looking at the defense, that defense is far more dynamic.

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Speaker 1: I've already talked about Mike Mitchell coming in and probably

781
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: playing the role of Troy Palamdo like he did in

782
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: the past. But that linebacker Court Jarvis Jones, Ryan Shazier,

783
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Lawrence Timmins talking about worlds playing on the other side.

784
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Speaker 1: I like what they have. I think they flipped their

785
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: roster in the past two years. I think now we

786
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of begin to see the fruit of their label.

787
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Feels like a team of a T. L. Marxist potentially alright,

788
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: moving on to everyone's favorite division, the a f C

789
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Speaker 1: South Speed Round, Well, it's potentially the Speed Round. It's

790
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: hard to get too excited about most of these teams,

791
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm just I'm keeping it real, Bucky.

792
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: He's looking at me, judging me. So every team is

793
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: beautiful in its own way, is what you say. So

794
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: what kind of we're gonna work through? His TV has

795
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: already giving me looks like, hey, you guys are taking

796
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: too long, so we're just gonna try to be economical.

797
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans, all right, I'm gonna let's let's say

798
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: what it is. The quarterback situation is something to watch

799
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Speaker 1: this summer. Ryan Fitzpatrick was brought on board and is uh,

800
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: I guess going to be the starter most likely, but

801
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: you also have case Keenum, who had his opportunities last

802
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: year's probably I think they're probably both gonna get a

803
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: shot at some point. But as far as the summer goes,

804
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: is Ryan Fitzpatrick coming out with the starting job week one?

805
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: I think the only way is not is if they

806
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: have the crazy idea to still trade for Ryan Mallett,

807
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: which never sounded like a good idea in the first place,

808
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: but I think that could still be available to the

809
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: other than that, there's no option. Ryan Mallett's on his tombstone.

810
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna say was involved in many trade rumors. That's

811
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: his legacy. Such a funny joke that the whole podcast

812
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: shop there a lot of reporters talked over and over

813
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: about a guy that we weren't convinced existed, but said

814
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: that Tom Savage had the strongest in just saying that

815
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Speaker 1: he had the strongest arm of any quarterback, but he

816
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: received well, I'm not sure where the ball I think

817
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: you Tom Savage with the top one rankings. Reading between

818
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: the lines, Bucky, you're basically taking a shot at Gil

819
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Speaker 1: Brand because because Tom that's his guy. May be right,

820
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: he may look the great, the great maybe right about

821
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Speaker 1: Tom Savage, I haven't found anyone else. If you find

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Speaker 1: it like that, like we bring Bucky in here and

823
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Speaker 1: just try to also a friend of Bucky Brooks skill Brands. Alright, no, no,

824
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Speaker 1: I'm writing it down al right. To move on to

825
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the Colts. Trent Richardson, another former friend of Mark Sessler. Uh,

826
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Speaker 1: speaking of friendship is now you know, I guess he's

827
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Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix. The Colts really need to

828
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Speaker 1: establish a running game, do a better job of this

829
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Speaker 1: year this year. Last year they had injuries than the

830
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: Richardson trade obviously backfired on them. How do we see

831
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Speaker 1: that playing out this summer? Who comes out as the

832
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: guy that's getting most of the carries. The report is

833
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: that Richardson's the starter, which I'm a little surprised that

834
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: it's not just wide open the way that he played

835
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Speaker 1: last year. But they're standing behind him. They're gonna give

836
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: him every cha ants and I've just heard you know,

837
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they are going to fully support him

838
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: until the minute. I think that he gives them no

839
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: choice but to give up. No. I mean, I think

840
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: you have to do. Like he was the third overall

841
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, a lot of people were excited

842
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: about a lot of people, not only in the Coast organization,

843
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: not only in the Browns, because he thought he was

844
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Speaker 1: a special talent guy that would kind of really ripped

845
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Speaker 1: the league up, and he showed potential that first year

846
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I think he has you have to give

847
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: him a bit of a curve because he had to

848
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: learn the offense in Indianapolis. But now I think the

849
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: excuses of all he has to play yes or before him,

850
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Speaker 1: he has to be a guy that can be like

851
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Speaker 1: a Twitter thirteen yard back, because if he gives him

852
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: that kind of production man, it could be scared what

853
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck could be on the outside. What happened last year?

854
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: You think it was just overloaded. You know, the playbook

855
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: and the change of scenior was a little too much

856
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: for him and he couldn't keep up with it is

857
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: that what it was all about. Well, I mean, like

858
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, like it's funny because just because they're pro athletes,

859
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: they still are fragile in nature in terms of their confidence.

860
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: And once he lost his confidence for whatever reason, he's

861
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: not the same guy that we watched at Alabama. Hopefully

862
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: he gets it back in the off season, hopefully gets

863
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it back in training camp. He needs to have a

864
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: big game. Once he has a big game, a game

865
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: that he can kind of like get the monkey off

866
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: his back. I think we'll see to turn Richson and

867
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: everyone expected when he came into the league. One other

868
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: really quick thing to watch for the Coals is just

869
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: that Fredgie Wayne is Reggie Wayne. People just assume he's

870
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: gonna come back and be the dynamic guy. He again,

871
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: another third, mid thirties guy, thirty four years old coming

872
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: off a torn a c L. He's someone to watch closely.

873
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: This mone. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, you know, it

874
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: normally takes two years for we got to come fully

875
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: back to regain his pro Bowl form. I don't know

876
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: if you'll be able to get it. I think really

877
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: emerged the t Y Hilton last year ship helped him

878
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: out the Jacksonville Jaguars. I guess what I'm interested in.

879
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: You guys can tell me what you think. But with

880
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Justin Blackman out of the picture entirely, you have Marquise

881
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: Lee in there, Alan Robinson, cecil Shorts on the outside. Uh,

882
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: how does this wide receiver group shake out? And are

883
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: they gonna be able to put a team out there?

884
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna score points. I mean cecil Shorts was I

885
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: thought he was dynamic down the stretch last season. Really

886
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: one of the a f c's better past catchers at

887
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: the end of the year here, and they've got a

888
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: lot of young guys. It just seems like a run

889
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: heavy offense. To me, this is a camp where I

890
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: want to really watch Blake Bortles because we might not

891
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: get to see him again for a while. And to me,

892
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the preseason, well you can't take I do for a

893
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: little while. You can't take that much for the preseason.

894
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: But I do love watching the rookie quarterbacks. I like

895
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: watching like Jadeveon Clowney. I'm gonna want to see how

896
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: he looks in the preseason. That I don't take much

897
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: away from the veterans, but it's fun to watch these

898
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: rookies and see and you you could tell if Bortles

899
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: is a little further along than expected during preseason. Yeah,

900
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: with the rookie, you're always looking to see if the

901
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: game is two big forms. So we're Bortles. When he

902
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: jumps on the field and he plays like the first time,

903
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: he'll go out with the twos and threes, how does

904
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: he perform against them? But then if he performs and

905
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: shows up well, if they get my opportunity to start

906
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: a game, what does he look like versus the opposing

907
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: team's first unit. If he shows that he has the

908
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: ability to make good decisions, we know the talent is there,

909
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: is when would he be ready to handle the speed

910
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: of the game. If he shows that he's ready, you

911
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: throw him out there. The big thing you have young quarterback,

912
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: You have young receivers. Allen Robinson, Mark eas Lee. Both

913
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: are special talents, but it takes a while for rookie

914
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: receivers kind of pick up the newest is of the game.

915
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: And you don't have a great receiver coach and Jerry Sullivan,

916
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: it just may take that offense a while to kind

917
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: of find and go. That's why Toby Garrard should be

918
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: a big pick up in fantasy because he should get

919
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: a ton of carries and cessor. I know you you're

920
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: on board with the jackson the team that can improve

921
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot this year. I just you know the way

922
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Bucky explains it, and it kind of makes sense. There

923
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: seems like to be still a lot of things unsettled

924
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: at that offense, QB, I guess we're buying in a

925
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Toby garrehard of making the leave candidate. The wide receivers

926
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: need to learn how to play at this level. You

927
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: know there's promise here offense. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot

928
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: of stuff here that has to coalesced. Yeah. I don't

929
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: know if it's a win total thing that I've been thinking.

930
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: When it to me privately, that was late in the

931
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: night somewhere, no memory of that. But I think what

932
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: a lot of players that went to Jacksonville free agent

933
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: wise said we want to play for Gus Bradley. We

934
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: believe in this guy. There a team that finally isn't

935
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: totally chaotic in terms of owner GM and coach relationship.

936
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: If they seem to have a vision and they've added

937
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: some nice pieces and I think they drafted well. If

938
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: they win, it'll because the defense is better than some

939
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: other parts, and they're in a lousy division and they

940
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: win some ugly games. I think not think so. I

941
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: think something that would be agree year for them. All right,

942
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: let's move on to the a f C West. Finally,

943
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: we'll start with the defending AFC champion. Even you always

944
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: talk about that the most forgettable? Are you just missing

945
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. You always say they're the bottom, that

946
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: their fans have been getting it after you, I believe.

947
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: And then this time you give him decision. By the way,

948
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: that was a bit of a high ad. I'm sorry

949
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Finally, last, but not least. Oh Man,

950
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: the Titans get excited people of Nashville. Un Philip rivers

951
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: around last year. This year he does it for Jake

952
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: Locker Bishops. Is he gonna he of the year that

953
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: Titans exciting? Justin Hunter makes the leap. I mean, what

954
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: are we looking for you Camp? Like, that's a lot.

955
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: That's a lot of just trying to bring up the

956
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: say something to look for in Tennessee the summer in Camp. Well,

957
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I think it all comes down to Jake Locker. I

958
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: think it's his ability to make plays the big thing

959
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I would look for is Za Mettenburg. Zach, can you

960
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: make a move to be the starting quarterback? I mean,

961
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: I know Charlie Whitehurst is there. I knows a lot

962
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about Jake Locker. But Zach mcknburgh

963
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: was drafting the city, a lot of people viewed him

964
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: as a guy who had upper echelon talent. He has

965
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 1: some other issues that prevented him from being a top

966
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: a top pick, but he has a lot of talent.

967
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: He looks to part and he's someone who is very

968
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: similar to what Ken was used to working with at

969
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Is that the issue maybe with Locker

970
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: when you inherit a guy like Locker, you have to

971
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: spend all off seasons saying I see nice things and

972
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: then we're gonna do our best with him. But he's

973
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: just not a wizzen Hunt type quarterback where you try,

974
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: you try to salvage him. I mean, he's talented, he's

975
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: a super athlete. He's a guy who played in a

976
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: wink T offense, made a couple of different Yeah, he

977
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: played a couple of different offenses in Washington, and so

978
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: he's been hurt, he's been unavailable he's missed fourteen stars,

979
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: so it's hard to figure out what he is. Yes,

980
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: that's you're a real Soon, I think they'll move on

981
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: the other day, I made the case for him as

982
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the potential in a perfect world as the a f

983
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: c S Cam Newton. What do you think about that one?

984
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: HUBBA hubbc's Cam Newton didn't what capacity you know? He

985
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: might not be the most accurate guy every play, but

986
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: he'll make plays with his legs. He's got some leadership ability.

987
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: There's something about him that that people gravitate towards, and

988
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: he can make plays on the move. He asked the

989
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: ability to be a player to make plays. He would

990
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: never be in my mind, he'll never be a sixty

991
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage pass. He wasn't that in college. But

992
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: I think if you're depending on a guy that can

993
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: make plays, give a couple of splash plays. You have

994
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: a strong running game to set him up. They have

995
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: some receivers now if he can just get it close

996
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: to the area code. Kendall Right, you talk about justin Hunter.

997
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: They have some nice guys to Landy Walker at tied end.

998
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: They have enough to help him, but he has to

999
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: understand how to go through his progress and the way

1000
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: they used them when they opened up strong last season,

1001
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: where we just pound the ball all day long and

1002
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: have him just sit there and throwing occasional. You know,

1003
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: probably there's some people that said that, you know, like

1004
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: their office coordinate to last year got away from there.

1005
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: When they were winning, they were running the football, really

1006
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: pounding the ball, and they had him throwing the ball

1007
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: twenty two to five times, much like Ben Roethlisberger came

1008
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: into the league. And so if you go back and

1009
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: you do the parallels, Ken wizzen Hunt was in Pittsburgh

1010
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: when Ben Roethlisberger started out and he formulated that game

1011
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: plane that allowed him to have a lot of success

1012
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: with rookie quarterback. Maybe he takes the same approach with

1013
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Jake Locker. I'm glad we got. I'm glad we got,

1014
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to the people of Tennessee. Now let's

1015
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: talk about some real teams. The Denver Broncos are the

1016
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: defending ANFC champions. I think this is a team where,

1017
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things seemed to be sewn

1018
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: up entering camp, but there are some interesting things here.

1019
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: And I'll start with the running back position. Mante Ball,

1020
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: who is a making the leap candidate for a t

1021
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: l UM. There are really no signs that he's going

1022
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: to lose that starting job this summer. It seem like

1023
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: his jobs Ronnie Hillman still in the mix. One guy

1024
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: to keep it keep an eye out on is C. J. Anderson. Perhaps, yeah,

1025
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: you stiff, I don't. I don't like their running back situation,

1026
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: but I think Monty Ball could be effective. I think

1027
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: he's his zone runner. I think anyone who plays behind

1028
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Payton Manning's going to have success. I just think the

1029
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: nature of their offense because they throw it around so much.

1030
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: You kind of treat that running game like a second

1031
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: class citizen, so people won't pay to that. So you

1032
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: look up and you find out that Monty Ball has

1033
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: a hunt of your game because you haven't paid attention

1034
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: to it, and so he can give them some production.

1035
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, the Denver

1036
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Broncos success would depend on how tough and physical they

1037
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: are against elite teams. Can they stand up when people

1038
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: want to make it a phone booth matchup. Everyone is

1039
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: going to copy with Seattle. Did they can try and

1040
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: beat him up at the line of Scrimage're gonna try

1041
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: and attack Payton Manning by bliss them and getting after

1042
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: and if they can hold up, they have a lot

1043
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: of success. This is one of those teams I feel

1044
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: like we don't even need to talk about much in August.

1045
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: It's so settled. You know, you want to see if

1046
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: von Miller is going to be healthy coming off an injury,

1047
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus where if he's healthy, But just roll the

1048
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: ball out in September. I don't know what the offense

1049
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: especially is going to decide in August. Not a lot. Well,

1050
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: what about a guy like Cody Lattimer. Do you think

1051
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: he has a chance to see more action and wide

1052
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: receiver early on than we would think today. I think

1053
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: he gets on the field if there's an injury. I

1054
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: think right now they're pretty said, I mean Emanuel Sanders

1055
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: coming over to Marius Thomas, you have Wes Welker and

1056
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: told Julian Thompson. I mean they have crowded a lot.

1057
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: They have a lot of people in place. But I

1058
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: always go back to think about what Peyton Man was

1059
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: able to do with the Blair White of the world

1060
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: and some of the other nondescript guys they played in

1061
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: Indian apps If Code Latimer gets on the field, he's

1062
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna have production because that's what Peyton Manning Doest brought

1063
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: some of them. He still got Jacob Tammy pass. He

1064
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: has a way of getting those guys to be successful

1065
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: in the field. But one last thing to watch out

1066
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: for the Broncos is off the field, is the Marius

1067
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: Thomas and Julius Thomas. They're still looking to sign those

1068
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: guys the deals and John Elways said uh yesterday that

1069
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: they're hoping by the second week of the preseason have

1070
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: deals done with them. Another team that has a major

1071
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: player with contract issues. Justin Houston skipped mandatory minicamp for

1072
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs last month, so that's something to

1073
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. The Kansas City. Another guy to

1074
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: watch his first round pass rusher d Ford. That will

1075
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how quickly he adjusts to the

1076
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: NFL game. I talked about the Broncos are a team

1077
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: you can fast forward to September. The Chiefs are the

1078
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: opposite because they have so many unsettled positions, so much change.

1079
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Their entire offensive line has changed. They lost four or

1080
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: five starters on defense, the wide receiver situation after dayne

1081
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: Bow is wide open. This is a team that needs

1082
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: to kind of get their house in order in August.

1083
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: They do have to get their house in order, and

1084
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: so because of that, I think that's why they really

1085
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: have to lean on their defense. You talked about justin

1086
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Houston uh wanting to come back, Maybe that he holds

1087
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: out because he wants a bigger contract. Then you have

1088
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: D four coming in. That was a move designed to

1089
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: be an insurance policy against the hold out. But I

1090
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: like that defense. I like the young pieces that have

1091
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: on defense. Offensively, I never expect him to be explosive.

1092
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: I like what Alex Smith is as a game manager,

1093
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: but I don't think you can put it old on

1094
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: him to make this team be a team to scores

1095
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight points tonight. It's about Jamal Charles.

1096
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles has to be superman on that offense, and

1097
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: hopefully they can find another receiver to compliment Dwayne bow.

1098
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: That is a team that that fan base felt disrespected

1099
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: last season because they were never taken seriously. But I

1100
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: have to question because they grew stronger on offense. The

1101
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: offense actually carried them down the stretch in the regular season,

1102
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: and you go out and Dwayne bow Is, you know,

1103
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: he's somewhat of a question mark in terms of his

1104
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: at this point, no longer fat and theory, I guess

1105
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: lost some weight behind him. You've got Junior Hemingway, Donnie Avery,

1106
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: and A J. Jenkins. It's just it's a it's a

1107
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: demoralizing group. Well why why did the Chiefs? Definitely not

1108
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: a lot of sizzle there, and I think because of that,

1109
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: But like when I go back and I look at

1110
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Andy Reis offenses from before in Philadelphia, he never really

1111
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: had dynamic playmakers and wide receiver. I notice Sean Jackson

1112
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: was the guy, but like he ran with James Thrash

1113
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: and Todd Rernston and all kinds of other guys that

1114
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: he threw in there. He may not put a lot

1115
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: of value in terms of having marquee names there, But

1116
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: if Dwayne bow is enough to be the number one receiver,

1117
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: maybe those other guys can kind of do it in

1118
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: a complimentary role. In Oakland, there's always plenty of things

1119
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: to settle and figure out during training camp. Maybe not

1120
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: as much this year as last year, but last year

1121
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: might have been a historic in that situation. One position, obviously,

1122
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: his quarterback match Shop was traded and traded from match

1123
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Job to install him as the starting quarterback. But there

1124
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of people, and I think especially in

1125
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: this around the league group, that think that match Shop

1126
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: could be pushed here by Derek Carr. What do you

1127
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: think I think matter Job will be the starting quarterback.

1128
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I think he's been dismissed. I understand he didn't have

1129
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: a great year last year, but I think he's a

1130
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: solid player in a system. He's a system quarterback. That

1131
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: system is the West Coast offense where he's allowed to

1132
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: really work through his progressives and get the ball out

1133
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: of his hands. If he sticks to that, if the

1134
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: receivers can come open on time, I think he'd be fine.

1135
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: But if he gets to a point where they're not

1136
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: able to protect him, I think you have to put

1137
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Derek carring because Derek Carr is more mobile, he's a

1138
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: better athlete, and he has some matt to him that

1139
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen. Yeah, and their coach Dennis Allen, I

1140
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: think did a much better job than NFL Zone Elliott

1141
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Harrison gave him credit for the number thirty two ranked

1142
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: coach with that talent last year. He did a good

1143
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: job that they were even competitive some weeks in won

1144
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: five games. I kind of like this Dennis Allen, Jason Tarver,

1145
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, it up. I don't know why. I don't

1146
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: know why. I kind of like the race. We like

1147
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: it and have some fun. I mean, obviously, their general manager,

1148
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: Reggie mackenzie just loaded up on guys that five years

1149
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: ago would have been this would have been an all

1150
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: star team, and they're hoping to see that. And that's

1151
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, running back, you've got one of the bigger battles.

1152
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: You've got McFadden, who if he post Hugh Jackson, he's

1153
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: never been the same guy. And m j D. How

1154
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: does this shake out? I mean, I I just it's

1155
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: hard for me to really look at this running back,

1156
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: this backfield and say I'm excited. It seems old. So

1157
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a lot of excitement that

1158
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: can be gleaned from there. I really don't know. Offensively,

1159
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: where is the exciting playmaker? Like who is it? Denarius More?

1160
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: But that's it? Like I mean what he's okay, Like

1161
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: he's a nice number three player, but now he's moving

1162
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: up to me in a start. They have three really

1163
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: nice number three's. That's the problem. They have Jones, Rod Streeter,

1164
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: who has to be the least known player that had

1165
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: over eight hundred yards last year. Roight Streeter had a

1166
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: pretty good season, and Denarius Moore who has had a

1167
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: lot of big plays. Finally, the San Diego Charges our

1168
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: final team today. Uh, you know this is an offense

1169
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: that has a potential to be pretty exciting this year.

1170
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Frank Reich is now the coordinator who's gonna potentially bring

1171
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: some of those no huddle principles from his day as

1172
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. Ladarius Screen is somebody that the around the

1173
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: league team is very excited about as a game breaker

1174
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: who could change that offense? Uh, what do you think,

1175
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Bucky about their office is going to see something that's

1176
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: a lot different this year. I'd like to charge. I

1177
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: think the Charge are a dark horse team. If we

1178
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: get excited about Pittsburgh, we should be really excited about

1179
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: San Diego. Offensively, Philip Rivers has kind of found his

1180
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: way back Ryan Matthews in the backfield, you still have

1181
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead and those guys outside. Keenan Allen is a

1182
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: grown man. He's a big time playmaker. I think he's

1183
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: a guy who's a number one receiver all day, every day.

1184
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: La Darius Green gives them something that they haven't had.

1185
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: When you have the ability to put Antonio Gates and

1186
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Ladarius Green on the field at the same time, you

1187
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: now can dictate offensively what you want the defense to

1188
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: be and whether base whether you have a matchup in

1189
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: that area. And because they don't have another established receiver

1190
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: on the outside. I know Malcolm Floyd is coming back,

1191
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: but no one that you really scared about. Expect them

1192
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: to be in a lot of two tight end sets

1193
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: with with those two guys on the field, and really

1194
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: using Green as another wide receiver to take advantage of.

1195
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: If you look at the breakdown of snaps as the

1196
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: season progressed last year, once you hit about week twelve,

1197
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: Green was the guy that was on the field a lot.

1198
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: So that backs up what you're saying. There's no way

1199
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna make sure he's on the field, and

1200
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: Gates is going to continue to be a player in

1201
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: this offensive Frank Reich has a lot of interesting pieces

1202
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: to play with because you've got two tight ends and

1203
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: he also three quality running backs. Not many teams have

1204
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: a better group than Ryan Matthews, who I love on

1205
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: early downs Dot, Danny Woodhead, who caught more passes than

1206
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: any running back in the league, and Donald Brown. I mean,

1207
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: that's that's a three pack you can win with. But couldn't.

1208
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: Your average fan just checks in on Sunday watches games

1209
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: would struggle to name one defender on this team. Is

1210
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: San Diego's defense an issue? You know? I don't think

1211
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: it's issue. I think they played really well. I think

1212
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: John Pagano did a great job of kind of the

1213
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: telling that they had at the very end. But part

1214
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: of their problem is they didn't believe in their corners

1215
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: last year, so they were afraid to go man to man.

1216
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: One of the things that they points of emphasis this

1217
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: year was to try and find a couple of covered corners.

1218
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: So you get Jason Red and the draft a guy

1219
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: that could probably be their nickel corner, Brandon Flowers comes

1220
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: over you, but he gives them something that they didn't have. Yeah,

1221
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: Cherie Wright, who was there, Eric Well is a playmaker.

1222
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: I think there'd be more aggressive. I saw a lot

1223
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: of man coverage when I was there down in training camp.

1224
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance. We got Flowers coming

1225
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: into the studio to talk with us on Monday, I

1226
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: believe we do. We have Brandon Flowers. So that's that

1227
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: is uh, that is something to be excited about, Greig.

1228
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone else is exciting having Bucky Brooke. Bums

1229
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: could have done it without you. Bucky, thank you very

1230
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: much for joining us today. And the door is always open.

1231
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: You are consigli as I like to say now at

1232
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: this point, yeah you did. And so we'll be back

1233
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: on Monday, like we said, back to three shows a

1234
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: week starting next week with the start of training camp.

1235
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: U Kevin Patri will be in the studio next week

1236
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: because well as Brendon Flowers, which a bunch of guys

1237
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: whose bodies don't quit, so get excited. Too bad. There's

1238
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: no cameras in here, all right. So that's it until Monday.

1239
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: The stand Hands is signing off for the Sizzler, The Boss,

1240
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Double B and T d oh. I like that until Monday,