1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: newly Scrubs. 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: Here we are many, can't we right here at the 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Star in Frisco. We're here at the SWBC podcast studios. 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: This is the players lines. You've got he Ma Harrison 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: in the building. In the house, We've got Barry Churches 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: right here's golf games getting rained out. Maybe get something today. 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: We'll see heartbreaking with the wrong hat on your head today. 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: I'm new he. 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: Scrubs, different car different different. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: The d season tournament champions. You know they fired the 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: head coach man one Darvin had one in season. 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 5: Right right, So can get you a MAVs hat man. 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: MAVs in the final Thursday is going down Thursday in 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the final? Maps are their stars lost last night? 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: They are done? So we just have one team in championship. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Many Camp Week, guys, yes, sir, Many Camp Week for 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. So June four, five, and six, Many Campus 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: here and then they're gone. Get to go away, get 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: to enjoy the last bit of your your life. Then 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: you get back and you start training camp here and 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: as we go into many camp, the top story of 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: the day, Yes, Sir, pach Maherrison Berry church Wide receiver 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Jordan Jefferson four years, one million dollars, highest highest non 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: paid in quarterback in the NFL history, one hundred and 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: ten million dollars of it is guarantee. If you're CD 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: out wrong, if your CD lamb, today's a good day. 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: It's a good day for your CD. It's a good day. 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: If you're Michael Parsons, oh you know it's coming to 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: it's a good day. 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: It's a great day. 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: Nine quarterback getting over one hundred million guaranteed these days. 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: Hey, look justin Jefferson, flat out dog. 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: You know, one of the best, if not the best 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: receiver in the National Football League. 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Deservedly so. 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 5: But like you said, if I'm CD LAMB, I'm looking 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 5: my chops to this situation. 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, this man getting one hundred and ten mil. 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: What is that? Thirty thirty five, thirty sixty years something 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: like that. 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I got to get that. 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 5: I got to see all of that, because if you 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 5: look at it to me, City Lamb, Justin Jefferson, they're 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: you know, one A, one B, whoever, whatever style you like. 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: And if I'm CD, I'm like, look, last year, you know, 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson was hurt a little bit, but I balled out. 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: I was an All Pro out there. You know, I 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: was leading the touchdowns, catches, all that stuff. Even though 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 5: teams were giving me all the attention, double team, triple team, 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 5: I will still able to go out there and give 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: you the yards and the production that he was able 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 5: to go out there. So if I'm CD, Lamb, I'm 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: looking at that and I'm saying I need the same amount, 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 5: nothing less, nothing less, because if you look looking at 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: it going forward, Justin Jefferson Minnesota, great receiver, but they 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: got a rookie quarterback right now. You know what's what's 62 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: gonna be. Is he gonna keep his production level going up? 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: Or is it kind of. 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: Plateau right now where it's at ceedee lamp. You got 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 5: one of the top five quarterbacks international football. 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 6: Excuse me, His production's gonna his production's gonna keep rolling. 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 5: So if I'm CD, I'm looking my chops like, yeah, 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna need all that, and y'all probably not gonna 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: see me until I get a piece of that. 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: I'm gonna double down on that because I absolutely agree 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 6: with you BC. I think that we said it last 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 6: week when we were talking about Justin Jefferson. 73 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: I called it collusion. You know they hey, they talking about. 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 6: These contracts because they're gonna be market setting contracts. And 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: if I'm CD, based off of the year that he 76 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 6: had last year and before that, I'm basically saying, look, 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 6: my trajectory, it's all the way up with me, right 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 6: and just and kind of going back to Justin Jefferson's contract, 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: and I think it was something we talked about pre show, 80 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 6: was is a four year deal for him. So this 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 6: is a twenty three year old guy that's gonna get 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: an opportunity to come back to the table and get 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 6: even more. And so look, this is a great like 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 6: you said, great time to be Micah, great time to 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: be CD. But if I'm CD, I want this contract. 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: I want to see the language in this contract, and 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 6: I want to say what's the difference between him and me? 88 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 6: And that's where the rubber measter roll. If I'm CD, 89 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 6: you got to tell me you got to show me 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 6: what's the difference between this guy and who I am 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: and what I mean to you as a team. Now, 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 6: we talked about last season those first four game CD 93 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: LAMB did not the production wasn't there, whatever, the disconnect 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 6: between him and Dak was. They found a way to 95 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 6: fix that. And so you come into this season if 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 6: they're on the same page those numbers that he could 97 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: eclipse those numbers by a tremendous amount. All right, But 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 6: I guess the thing that makes me uncomfortable in this situation, guys, 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 6: is that how are the Cowboys going to be able 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 6: to have market setting contracts at the quarterback position, the 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 6: receiver position, at the defensive position. I mean, and then 102 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: you still have guys behind that and Ferguson and Bland 103 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: is still going to be won in their paydays as well. 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 6: So it's a pickle if you're the front office. But man, 105 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 6: there's no snow escaping it. You're gonna have to you 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: have you drafted well, and you're gonna have to play 107 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 6: these pay these guys or let them go to other 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 6: teams and allow them to pay them. 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: We said, you know he's gonna get thirty five man, Man, 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: it's a good it's a good day for CD Lamb. 111 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: So wow, yeah, now it's five million dollars. 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 3: Oh, yesterday's price is not today. 113 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, and I kind of go into this. 114 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: Teams are now having to make the decision where do 115 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: we go. The Viking said to Kirk Cousins, no more, 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do this. So Atlanta paid the freight 117 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: on the contract, so they decided we're not going to 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: do that. 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: They've got a rookie. 120 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: They've got a rookie quarterback now, so so you're gonna 121 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: have to figure out how do you make this puzzle 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: work for yourself. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: Lamb will be here. He's young enough. You cannot afford 124 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: to let him go. 125 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: I wonder if Jordan Jefferson would be a Minnesota They 126 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: decide we're gonna pay the thirty five. 127 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. Parsons is not gonna go anywhere. 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: He's too young. 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: They're not gonna let him go. And the way they're 130 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: acting right now, I wonder what's gonna happen with the 131 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: quarterback because you start talking about the numbers that are here, 132 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: fifty five million for Prescott, thirty five million for Lamb, 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: we haven't got to what Michael Parsons is going to 134 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: get yet. You bring up Jake Ferguson to me, that's 135 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: not even I'm not even gonna entertain that. 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: And men, thanks literally, I look at Jake Ferguson, who 137 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: I like as a player. 138 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: But if you want to start talking about the tight 139 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: end numbers and what that's gonna cost you and where 140 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: you've got to go, you start looking at the rest 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: of your team. I got Tyler Smith, I gotta pay. 142 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay Tyler Smith before I paid it tightle. 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: I can go find another Jake for This is where 144 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: I've got to go to my front office to say, hey, look, 145 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to have you find some dudents for 146 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: us because everyone just simply cannot get paid. 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: Diggs is making good money. 148 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, Land, Okay. 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: There's an interesting thing about blaining deron Bland. I mean, 150 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: what do you do there? I don't I put it 151 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: like this. I'll pay my corner before I'll pay my titty, 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't you. 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: You can never have as many cover people right. 154 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: Right, So I simply can't. I can't go just find 155 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: another hymp all due respects. Much like Jake Ferguson, you've 156 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: you've seen that you can go. You found adult and 157 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: Choultz you get fut that you can go do that 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: you you have in front office. It understands what type 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: of tight end you have. It's gonna be interesting. And 160 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: that's where the quarterback. As long as the quarterback situation 161 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: keeps going out here, haven't I'm having to wonder and 162 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: ask myself is the quarterback going to be back? 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 6: It's not even look, I think when when it comes 164 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 6: down to Dak, whichever side you you you go to 165 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: with him, the inconsistency in the playoffs, you know what 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 6: you get with him, all right, And regardless if Mike 167 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 6: is here next year, this year, whatever it is, you 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 6: know how solid of a player that you get those 169 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: seventeen games, all right, there's no sense in bothering for 170 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: the future against that. 171 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: To me, it's a no brainer. 172 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 6: You try and find a way between now and the 173 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 6: beginning of the season to get Dak's deal done because 174 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 6: you can't do it. To me, if you can't do 175 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 6: anything else without getting that deal done, and if you 176 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 6: just sit on your hands and say, look, we're not 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 6: gonna do anything, and you let him walk at the 178 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 6: end of the season. Then how much sense does that 179 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 6: make If you don't get anything, you get nothing in 180 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: return in that situation. 181 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: So you're right, But what part about any of this 182 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: has made sense? Why didn't you lock up CD Lamb. 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Why did you lock up when you could have got 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: it at twenty once you saw Tybree Kill get paid. 185 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: Why didn't you do a thing? Why didn't you pay 186 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: dak before? 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: So as this thing keeps going on, yeah, I'm just 188 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: starting to wonder who gets left by the side of 189 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: the road. 190 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 6: Well, look, it's hard for me to go into the 191 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 6: mind of what the front office is thinking, especially when 192 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 6: you started the season saying all in, all right, and 193 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 6: nothing has been all in since you've made the statement 194 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 6: all right, and so this has been a very confusing offseason, 195 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: to say the least. All right, we say preach all right, 196 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 6: less is more. Maybe somebody said less is more, this 197 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 6: is what we're gonna do. But if you're not gonna 198 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 6: take care of the core players that you have that 199 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 6: you know that you're gonna depend on, then that's the 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 6: part that doesn't make any sense to me, because you 201 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 6: can't build anything for the future around it. Even as 202 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: you talk about these young players, right, Dak's getting Dak's 203 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 6: deal done. And even if they're thinking, all right, the 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 6: the the it's gonna increase as far as the cap 205 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: in the future, all right, and maybe you'll have more 206 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 6: money to play with if that's what they're I'm just 207 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 6: trying to be in the mind of these guys. But 208 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 6: in some way you have to get Dak's deal done 209 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 6: just to continue with this momentum with these young guys. 210 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: You make the point about Justin Jefferson and them having 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback. 212 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: You don't know what the hell you're getting with. 213 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 6: That, You don't, Okay, So the trajectory, you get paid 214 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 6: all this money, but you in Minnesota, you're not getting 215 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 6: the balls, you know, touchdowns, but you're getting all this money. 216 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 6: And so how does that look as a player for 217 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: perception wise? 218 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: JA Dave Chappelle clutching that money, Okay, I'm just saying, 219 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: somebody's cold. I got my quarterback. I'm clutching at thirty five. 220 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna clutch at be. 221 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, and that may be the last that may 222 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: be the last payday that you get. As we start 223 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 6: talking about players in the future, and that can that 224 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 6: can have direct ramifications on you in the future. So 225 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 6: he's going to be looking at that. But if I'm CD, 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: if I'm the Cowboys, I'm in a position right now 227 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 6: with the quarterback that has shown me he's continuing to 228 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: get better. 229 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: Where did that let that off? Last year? He got 230 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: better MVP votes. 231 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: All of that second MVP voting. 232 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: But but why is he out here waiting on the 233 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: deal still? That's the part Heckma that I can't get 234 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: out of my head because he's done everything that tells 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: you you should be signing him to a new deal. 236 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 6: Percent on what the deal getting done? What is your 237 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: faith percentage wise on the deal get done? Where are 238 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 6: you right now? See faith is no, no, no, hope, 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 6: May don't don't do that? May I know you by 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 6: the tell political as percentage? What is your percentage on 241 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: that right now? What do you think? 242 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Sixty percent of me says it gets done? 243 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: Sixty percent okay said? 244 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: The forty percent that's out there is I don't get 245 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: it because Jerry and the past Troy never had to 246 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: beg for dollars, Romo never had to beg for dollars. 247 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: You've put dak on a franchise tag now and now 248 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: we're sitting around here, floating around trying to. 249 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: Figure out what else? What does he have? Why isn't 250 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: he signed? 251 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this reminds me of the Lamar Jackson situation 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: in Baltimore where some people believe there was collusion across 253 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: the league about getting that done. But he can leave. 254 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: You got nothing at the end. Why would did you 255 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: even want to play this game? I don't understand. He 256 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: did everything, in my opinion, outside of winning in the 257 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: playoffs that you want him to do. You know, by 258 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: the way, Lamar Jackson didn't do it either. No, he 259 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: won the MVP. 260 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 3: Guy won the MVP. 261 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: Say both dudes laid eggs, so that for me, I 262 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: don't understand. Jalen Hurts, they wrote to check no problem. 263 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, they wrote to check no problem. What's the 264 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: problem here? That's what I'm Kirk Cousins got a check. 265 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, coming up an injury. 266 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: Jerry, Please tell me why you're a quarterback and you're 267 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: the dude since you bought the team in eighty nine 268 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: when you drafted Troitman and gave him a record to 269 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: a couple track, you're the guy who always pays his people. 270 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: Is it the fact that he's I understand four rounded, 271 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: but he was this was way, but he's turned himself 272 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 5: into an all pro mvlact. 273 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: He led the league. 274 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 5: That they're making him like you said, beg for these 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: dollars when you got guys Herberst my boy, they never 276 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: want a playoff game. 277 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: I can see Hirs he took them to the super Bowl. 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: But these other guys, Kirk Cousins like you just named, 279 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: they got stops, but there's no. 280 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: Productions with it. 281 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Golf just got paid, yes, golf, and nothing against him. 282 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: But we know they have assembled a team where there's 283 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: a lot of help. Were big upfront, we got some 284 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: running backs and we've invested in So they're not asking 285 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: him to go be Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. They're not 286 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: asking him to be that he got the cash. This 287 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: is just weird to me. That's why I got the 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: forty percent out of here because I've never seen Jerry 289 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,479 Speaker 2: operate in this fashion with his quarterback. 290 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 6: That's the disconnect between the fan base and the front office. 291 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 6: Is when you start saying, as far as Dak is concerned, 292 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 6: that he's basically like he's dancing for his meal. Right, 293 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: but he is still when he got his deal, he's 294 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 6: reset the market for quarterbacks at his deal. 295 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: Now time has gone. 296 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: On, you would have liked for that deal to have 297 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: been done last year so you didn't have to worry 298 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: about this. 299 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: And these are the things. All you're talking about dragging 300 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: your feet. 301 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 6: That's it, because that got paid and he's gonna continue 302 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 6: to get paid, all right, And so he's waiting on 303 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 6: another because anybody's sitting out there, what do you mean 304 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 6: that got paid top quarterback salary in the league at 305 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 6: the time that he got that got paid guys, Yes, 306 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 6: and they got to put a clause. 307 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: Hey man, we need you to look at this back. 308 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: Those are all those other things. 309 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 6: All those other things, don't these things are not even 310 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 6: applicable to Dak because the guy is a football field 311 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: in his backyard, all right, So you're not worried about 312 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: him and his dedication to the game. All we're saying 313 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: is you can't get any of these other deals done 314 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: until you pay this guy. And everybody knows maybe you know, believer, 315 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: it's different from right now. 316 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: You can okay, you can do that. 317 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: If you wanted to pay it, you could do that. 318 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: I mean you paid digs. 319 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if you wanted to go ahead to say, 320 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna go here first, they can do that. 321 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that would that would store your cap from where 322 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 6: your cap hit is with with that, That's all I'm saying. 323 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: They did it. 324 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: They did it before he signed last time around. They 325 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: signed some other guys, so so you can do it. 326 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense 327 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: the three of us here. Why would you do this 328 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: in a league that's a quarterback league. How come you 329 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: haven't gone ahead and say, boom, we're taking care of you. 330 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: But you know, if you want to sit around here 331 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: each French fries first and and go a hey broccoli. 332 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: And then well we'll get to the state later on. 333 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't get it, and it and it just it 334 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: just it boggles my mind because this is not I'm 335 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: so much about history and looking at past things that people. 336 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: This is not the Joneses. 337 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: You know, Tony Tony you played with Tony never had 338 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: to sing for no supper bro checks every single time. 339 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 5: Flip flops and hall. But do you think those the 340 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: front office thought those were the guys and they're still 341 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: out out on Prescott. 342 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's to be the only that could be 343 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: the only, like because. 344 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Someone somewhere along the way there's a question. 345 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 6: So I guess what you're saying is you're in a waiting, 346 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 6: wait and see situation with this season with Dak here. 347 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: That's the only way they've. 348 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: Done it before. 349 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I could think of. They've done it. 350 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: Before, they made the man play on a franchise tag. 351 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: I just I think you're beyond that point now. I 352 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: think before I may I may have agreed with you, 353 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 6: but I think you're beyond that point, especially after last season, especially. 354 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: After why they get no. They pin in the paper. 355 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: If he's the guy. 356 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: That's the million dollar question, this should get done. And 357 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 6: that's why I asked the question. What's your percentage of 358 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 6: getting the deal done? You say sixty percent. I believe 359 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 6: the deal gets done before we go to camp. 360 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: What's percent? I'm seventy five you're saying before camp? See, yeah, 361 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm just period. 362 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: So you said he might go into the season without. 363 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: That's crazy. We've seen it before. Though, we've seen this before. 364 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, so we're not talking about something that hasn't 365 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: made a scratch our heads. That's true, and it's so 366 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: out of character, so out of character for what they're doing. 367 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 368 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: And and we'll dive into this next. Paying Trey Lance five 369 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: point three million dollars and they're talking about him in 370 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: a positive lot. 371 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. And is Michaeh. 372 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Parsons Is Michael Parsons the leader? There was a column 373 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: written about that. Barry Church is laughing, But we'll dive 374 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: into that next. 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They spoke 432 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: about him once again. 433 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy was a lot of positive things to say 434 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: that they're going to push him heavily for preseason preseason camp. 435 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 5: Out here disrespecting my guy out here, man, Now he's 436 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 5: my guy, but you know before he wasn't respect. 437 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: What is he done? 438 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 5: What has Trey done to be like you know, all right, 439 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: he's we're gonna slide him in there. We're gonna push 440 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: and see, you know, see what he got. I understand 441 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: preseason on a camp, But what has he done. 442 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: For him to just be next in line? The air 443 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: the air apparent? 444 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 5: I just besides being a first round pick, like all right, 445 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: so if he was a four or fifth round pick, 446 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: are we still we're still doing? Like we come on, 447 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 5: He's had opportunities last year he was here, didn't scratch 448 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: the surface. Now all of a sudden, he's gonna be 449 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 5: out there the trade package read out. 450 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: I'm dealing these days, me and CD can I just 451 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 4: I don't see it, man. 452 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 6: I see the disrespect for now, and I respect that 453 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 6: coming from you as a former player. I think you 454 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 6: you understand that. That's probably how the locker room is 455 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 6: speaking too. You know what has this guy done as 456 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 6: he even because Cooper Rush has already shown you, he's 457 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: given you that time proof and consistency that if all 458 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 6: hell breaks loose, he can come in and be a 459 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 6: guy that could be a gap for the four or 460 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: five games and pull out some quality wins for you. Like, 461 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 6: what else is Mike McCarthy supposed to say that about trailer? 462 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: I mean, what do he come out and says, guys, 463 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 6: garbage is taking it up. You know he's gonna come 464 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: out and say, look, we've made some modifications to his 465 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 6: throwing motion and he's getting rid of the ball a 466 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 6: lot quicker. 467 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: Now. 468 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 6: You know, he's reading defenses a lot better. Now we've 469 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 6: taken a gamble on this guy, and we got at 470 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: least talk him up if he's gonna have any equity 471 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: for us to move on from in the future. So look, 472 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 6: it's all just coaches speak to me. I didn't buy 473 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 6: too much into that. Now these preseason games, you'll get 474 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 6: an opportunity to see Trey you trigger Tray. 475 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: See how not right release. I just don't hear anything 476 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: about it. The athletics. Come on, man, come on, we'll. 477 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: See what he got what he was supposed to do. 478 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 6: I noticed your man and all, and we waited, were 479 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 6: waiting on the debut. You see what he got the 480 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 6: second coming. 481 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: The smiddy nobody wants to trust in Mike's. 482 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: Programmed might do it out there with my forty percent 483 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: being out here talked about, you know, was I think 484 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: sixty percent that they will sign Doak Prescott? 485 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: The forty percent is a part of that. Is Trey 486 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: Lance here a part of that. 487 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: It is a to me, it's a part of the 488 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: factoring in here because I've chatted with a couple of folks. 489 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: So I still think they like to get that done. 490 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: I think that's what they want to do. But clearly 491 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: they're working on playing B. And if plan B is 492 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: Lance rush the ticket, the Lance rush. 493 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: Ticket, they don't run it twenty twenty five. Maybe that's 494 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: what they do. 495 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: But at this point in time, you cannot just dismiss 496 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: it and say, nah, it's not going to happen. 497 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: The Lance Rush Tours. I just man, stranger things have happened. 498 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Tony Romill coming to start a quarterback, because 499 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: I remember me, Romo came in here with Terres Newman 500 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: and was the fourth quarterback that you thought was gonna 501 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: get cut until they cut Quincy. So we've seen crazier 502 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: things happen around here. I just don't think you should 503 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: laugh off Trey Lance. Don't laugh at Trey Lance off, Like, 504 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: don't laugh at him like that. 505 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: Man, he did gonna come in here. 506 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: Don't laugh like that. Don't laugh man, Just trying to 507 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: tell you, don't laugh. Don't laugh. 508 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna come off the couch and. 509 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 10: Up. 510 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 11: Man. 511 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: I just can't see it personally. I just man, we'll 512 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 5: see them. Why why because we haven't seen him done 513 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: it before. And and look, time proof. You're big on 514 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 5: this time proof and consistency thing, and we've seen it 515 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 5: from Cooper Rush. And I just I just look, you're 516 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 5: making me go. According's hands on you right now. 517 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: And so when you go Cooper Rush, okay, I go 518 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: back to what he did with then McCarthy's program, because 519 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: I saw what he was here. 520 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: Boy JG. 521 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: Don't like just say he took to New York and 522 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: couldn't get that out of he was was the guy 523 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: who got something out of us. 524 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So the man's program he's showing. 525 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm just more or less saying, guys, as long as 526 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: this Dak contract hangs out here the way it's hanging 527 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: out here, because when he gets the free agency, they 528 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: can't stop it. 529 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 4: No, they can't stop it. 530 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: Right, it's over with. And so then it becomes a 531 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: point of hey, man, who's gonna give you most money? 532 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: How do I feel? 533 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's you're you're going and he may you 534 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: let him go, he may not come back. And so 535 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: if that's the case, then that means Lance Rush may 536 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: be what you go with as your quarterback. It is 537 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: a possibility, oh for sure. And I'm putting it in 538 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: a forty percent possibility right now because I don't know. 539 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 6: And that and that great area to me, based off 540 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 6: of the contracts that you're putting together, the team that 541 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 6: you coming off of the season three seasons that you've had, 542 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 6: why would you blow that up for a lesser known 543 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 6: commodity in Trey Lance. To me, even if if even 544 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: like Mike McCarthy right now, he's in his last year 545 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 6: on his contract, he can't put his faith in Trey 546 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 6: Lance right now. Your best way to get there is 547 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 6: through Dak ever having a great season. 548 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: That's yes, what you say, Okay, heck man, what's yours? 549 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm not debating you. What you say makes sense, But 550 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: it also doesn't make sense that your head coach, who's 551 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: only only Andy Reid the last three years, has one 552 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: more regular season games in him, is sitting around here 553 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: singing for his supper, that your quarterback who led the 554 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: league and touchdown passes second to the MVP, is singing. 555 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: None of this makes sense. But this is what the 556 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: owner has laid out. And so if he's laid this 557 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: out here, you have to say, okay, they could not 558 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: be back. 559 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 3: Because he's left the door open for that to happen. 560 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Cannot ignore that Jerry we trust. 561 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 5: I mean, like always said, he's never let somebody leave 562 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: that he that he's won it, and he's paid weapons 563 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 5: out here. 564 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: We talked about this last week. 565 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, if Mike McCarthy has a 566 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: really good year, guess what he can do too, just 567 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: like that, let me ease on out this door or 568 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: find something better if I want to. 569 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: They can re up, then definitely he can. 570 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: Re up or he could go walk if he has 571 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: another let's say, ten win season, four years in a row, 572 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: ten plus win seasons in this league, and we all 573 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: know this is a different kind of franchise to work 574 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: for you your time in Jackson. Yeah right, it's a 575 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: whole lot going on around here that Mike McCarthy. 576 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: Is going to show a prow that. 577 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: He heckma, it doesn't make any sense. No, we agree, 578 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, but this is what has been 579 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: allowed to happen. 580 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, from the beginning with Mike McCarthy. I said it 581 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: coming into the Sea, coming into this offseason that that 582 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 6: was the one deal that to me didn't make sense 583 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 6: that that didn't get done to get him get his 584 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 6: deal redone is from because that has anything to do 585 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 6: with the salary cap or anything like that. And he's 586 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 6: he's been successful. I just think it's the playoffs that 587 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: is plaguing him right now. And you know, if he 588 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 6: if he does exactly what you just said, and then 589 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 6: he's not the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in 590 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, after winning four consecutive Dan. 591 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: Campbell got a deal. 592 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: Let me think about that, you know, I mean, you know, okay, 593 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: the body of work. I mean, Mike McCarthy is a 594 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: Super Bowl coach who's come here and taken over for 595 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: your man and done it out. 596 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, takeaway the first year COVID year. 597 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: The guys. The guy's been on coaching. 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But do voluntary means? 667 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: So David Moore, the Dallas Morning News came up with 668 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: the comps Dallas Cowboys, Michael Parsons is a star. That 669 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: does not mean he is a leader. Soas no one 670 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: should question Michael parsons drive to be great. Now, if 671 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: you want to question his credentials as a leader, that's 672 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: fair game. After the Cowboys got drilled forty eight thirty 673 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: five to get Green Bay Packers. Parsons said, cool, I 674 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: want to change the culture. I want to change the 675 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: identity of what the Cowboys are. Cut the charades out, 676 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: cut out the extra stuff. I just want people to 677 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: lock in for twenty two or whatever weeks. Parsons has 678 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: decided not to participate in the off season the OTAs 679 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: he's been training, but he came to the Star last 680 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: week to cut promos. 681 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: So to get up. 682 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm puffy, I'm all that, I'm all in the video. 683 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: To retire that one. 684 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: Everybody else out there and practicing. I just put on 685 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: my stuff. 686 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: In that gun. 687 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: The boy you gotta see. 688 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: You gotta be there for the NBC intros and the 689 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 6: Jumpo trun Dog. 690 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: You do it to make it happen. 691 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 2: And that's where Moore is like, you know, showing up 692 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: in the start to shoot a video then pointedly not 693 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: practicing with your teammates is another thing. 694 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: The optics are not good. 695 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: He says, they weren't good on Thursday with Parsons posted 696 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: on X while his teammates were practicing at the Ford 697 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: Center do the Rain. So that's where David Moore's column 698 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: comes in and says, yeah, he's a star, but is 699 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: he much of a leaders? 700 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 5: Start with you Church, I ain't gonna say, you know, 701 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: he's a bad leader, and greatly you know, there's things 702 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 5: that that he does out there or to where myself, 703 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: you know, as a former captain, I wouldn't have done. 704 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: But you know, it's a new age and a new 705 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: time with these players, you know, getting their brands out 706 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 5: there and being all in the spotlight and all that 707 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: good stuff. 708 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 4: You know. 709 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 5: But something, you know, it resonated with me a little 710 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 5: bit when you said, you know, twenty two weeks we 711 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: need to lock in, we need to do this and that, 712 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 5: you know. But at the same time, you know, after 713 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 5: each game he's doing these podcasts and bringing up these 714 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 5: bulletpoard materials, which is the extranists. You know, if you 715 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 5: want to be locked in, be locked in. And you know, 716 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 5: I think he's a leader as regards to his play 717 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 5: on the field, Like if y'all want to be great, 718 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 5: follow me, and he's done that. He's he's lifted up 719 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: everybody else's game on that defense by just being out 720 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: there on the football field. There's little things here and 721 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: there that he may need to, you know, mature a 722 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 5: little bit in But overall, I mean, you know, I 723 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 5: think he's a young guy out there, you know, doing 724 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 5: what he can to get this defense to the right position. 725 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: I mean on the field, players outstanding. Off the field, 726 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 5: you know, a little bit here and there, maybe needs 727 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: to work on. But I'm not gonna say he's a 728 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: bad leader. Overall, I just think he needs to mature 729 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 5: a little bit and he will. I mean, he's a 730 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 5: young player. 731 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: And they didn't say bad, they just said he's not 732 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: a leader. You're a star, but not a leader. I 733 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: understand there are some people who felt that Tony Romo 734 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: was a star, but he wasn't a leader. Okay, so 735 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: this is not this is not something uncommon across sports 736 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: where people will say, hey, star player, but that's not 737 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: the guy that people are going to go follow. Troy 738 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: Aikman was a great player, but people felt the heartbeat 739 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: of the team was Michael Irvin. Not to say Troy 740 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: wasn't leader, because we all know eight ball was. So 741 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: what David Moore laid out was a case that said 742 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: you're saying one thing, but you're doing another. 743 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, being a leader, And I just go 744 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 6: back to what you said, Barry, because I think a 745 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 6: lot of that comes from the experience as a former player. 746 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: You talk about the locker room, the bulletin board material 747 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 6: and things that you just don't give your team that 748 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 6: you're playing AMMO against you. And we're in a new age. 749 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 6: These guys have podcasts, they have endorsement deals. They're all 750 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 6: protecting their brand because those are the things that they 751 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 6: that's not connected to the team. It's theirs and so look, 752 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 6: it's the people that are the old guard. Now I 753 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 6: call you old, but the old guard it just basically says, look, 754 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 6: that's not what us football players do. We don't after 755 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 6: a game. There's no interviews. You lock in for the 756 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 6: week ahead. The one guy on this team that I 757 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 6: am not worried about is number eleven, the Bazooka. I'm 758 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 6: not worried about him. He has forty point five sacks 759 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 6: in three season. I am not worried about him. 760 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: I need hold on. 761 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 6: I need everybody else to lock in on how you 762 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 6: play with number eleven. 763 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: Now, I'm not going to judge him on these OTAs. 764 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it. 765 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 6: How many players have we had that have skipped OTAs 766 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 6: and came in and had phenomenal seasons. Nobody's talking about 767 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 6: that Week five, Week eight, Well, you know he missed 768 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 6: voluntary training. 769 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 3: You know, against San Francisco. 770 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 6: Week five against San Francisco. Yeah, but this is what 771 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 6: I'm saying to you, what I'm what I'm saying to 772 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 6: you is. 773 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 4: That's the one guy. That's the one guy. 774 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 6: That I'm not worried about, because I need these other 775 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: ten guys to support number eleven and make it where 776 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 6: you can't double team this guy. If you're double team 777 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: in on one side, Sam Williams, I need you to 778 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 6: beat I need you to beat your guy. 779 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: I'll come back to you and simply say, this is 780 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: the way we're talking about Dak rightfully so and not 781 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: performing against San Francisco and not performing against Green. 782 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: Bay in the playoffs, we can say the same thing 783 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: about number eleven. 784 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 4: Where were you? Yeah? 785 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: And when we want to people want to throw out 786 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: the Lawrence Tailor comparisons and brother, where are you at? 787 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 3: Because legitimate he is right? 788 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you want to look Dak Prescott legitimately criticized for 789 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: what happened to playoffs. Micah should be as well. Where 790 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: were you? Certainly not TJ Whiten It out there. You 791 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: know when you want to compare yourself to these other 792 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: dudes who actually have Defensive Player of the aarwards and 793 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: you don't you leave yourself open. Heckma is what what 794 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: mister Moore is saying. When you decide you want to 795 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: do these things, you leave yourself open. 796 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 4: I get it, and look and Barry, I guess. 797 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 6: My My question to you is, as who has played you, 798 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 6: yourself playing with dogs and guys in this league that 799 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 6: have played at a high level. You know what this 800 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 6: guy is gonna bring each and every week. But you 801 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 6: also know that these offensive coordinators have schemed up. You're 802 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 6: on one side of the ball. We've seen what you 803 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 6: guys are doing. We're gonna scheme up for you. We're 804 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 6: gonna run directly at you. We're no, this is this 805 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 6: is what you're going to do. That's a whole different look. 806 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 6: Let's go into the body type. Let's go into the 807 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 6: type of defense that they play. Let's go let's go 808 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 6: into all that are you built for that. We've been 809 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 6: talking about this guy at defensive end versus linebackers since 810 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 6: he's been in the league, So it's not exploratory to say, oh, 811 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 6: when you say t J. Watt or the guy in Cleveland. 812 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 6: These are these are true three four defensive ends. Chris Jones, 813 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 6: come on, now, come on you are you just wave 814 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 6: so Chris Jones and Kansas City, Well, I'm not. I'm 815 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 6: talking about a defensive end. And Michael Parsons, who is signific. 816 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 6: He is an edge rusher. He and what he was 817 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 6: last season was almost like a one trick pony where 818 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 6: you put him out there on the edge and said, look, 819 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 6: get after the quarterback. 820 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 4: What did San Francisco do Differently? They ran right at him. 821 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: What Yoda said, do it? 822 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 8: Do not? 823 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: There is no try this. 824 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 6: Said Yoda ain't never put on no helmet and got 825 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 6: out there and did what Michael's doing. So you're not 826 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 6: gonna tell me that Michael slipping when he's got forty 827 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 6: point five. And also, by the way, there's only one 828 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 6: other guy by the name of White that's done what 829 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 6: this guy is doing. So in comparison to say that 830 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 6: he's not a leader is off base. You need to 831 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 6: find somebody else to talk about, because this guy right here, 832 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 6: he that him, He is. 833 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 4: That guy him, He is that guy. 834 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: Packers didn't think so. 835 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 4: But about to say, but the new he's put that. 836 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 3: He against San Francisco has always shown up in the. 837 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: Playoffs, his hit. 838 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: The criticism of Dak Prescott is legitimate. 839 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 4: But you can but you don't put any of the guys. 840 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: You can also put it on Michael Parsons if you 841 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: want to talk about I'm defensive player of the year 842 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: on this, on that. 843 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: Where were you in the biggest game games? Lawrence Taylor 844 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 3: was always here in the biggest games. 845 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 2: T J Watt being there, He's out there winning awards, 846 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: getting there. 847 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is too. That's all I'm saying. 848 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: If you want to say I'm this, I'm that he is, 849 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: then I need to see this. 850 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: When it counts. 851 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: At moments, it is Connor McDavid for Evanson Oiles, is 852 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: that getting done, it's Luka Donches's Kyrie Irvy getting it done. 853 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: You get. 854 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 6: So basically, what you're saying about micaeh is that he's 855 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 6: being perceived as his superstar in the league, but when 856 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 6: the moments are big as he disappears. 857 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 3: Right now, when I look at the playoffs. 858 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: He wasn't where. He wasn't the player he needed to be. 859 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: The quarterback wasn't the player he needed to be. 860 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 4: On the other. 861 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 6: Guys that wasn't the players that they needed to be. 862 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. You got more guys out there 863 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 6: on the field that didn't play either. 864 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: You ain't about to They're not about to break the bank, 865 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: are they. 866 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: Okay? All right, Okay, that's true. I mean, okay, get 867 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 4: you know they are. That's support. I mean, where's Tito, 868 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: where's you? You know, we beat up on. 869 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: Marty? Marty. 870 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 4: That's what we're paying the seam. Okay. 871 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: So what we're talking about, we're talking about is the 872 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: best players. Okay, when you want to win these ships, 873 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: you need your best players. Absolutely, Like Patrick Mahomes in 874 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Hey man, get it there, Chris Jones. 875 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: You can't see the go ahead and get it done. 876 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: The quarterback, the wide receiver, and the defensive end. Your 877 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 2: star players did not get it done against Green Bay. 878 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: They did not get it done against San Francisco. Those 879 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: are legitimate things. And as I'm covering the Mavericks right now, 880 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: all I can see here and say is I saw Kyrie, 881 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: I saw Luca go do their thing. 882 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 4: That's everything else. 883 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: When I covered the Rangers, I saw Corey Seger go 884 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: out there and go get his thing done. I saw 885 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: native Valdi goes, you need your best players, especially when 886 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm about to write you a check as big as 887 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: anything I need you to get. 888 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 6: I like what you said there, because even in putting 889 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 6: it in a basketball analogy, now with the Mavericks going 890 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 6: up against Boston, who has one of the top rosters 891 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 6: in the NBA, what are you going to get from 892 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 6: guys like Lively? Where are you going to get from 893 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 6: these other guys, these role players that now can't just 894 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 6: just separate themselves and go quietly into this. They got 895 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 6: to play. And so guys like Tank, Lawrence, Dron Bland, Uh, 896 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 6: Stephan Gilmour, those You had a lot of guys that 897 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 6: let you down in that game. It wasn't just shikhs. 898 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying. So when you go back 899 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 6: and you point to that, don't discount the fact that 900 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 6: this guy has forty point five sacks thirteen last season 901 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 6: and was, oh, come on, man was on a tear 902 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 6: in a place pace to be the defensive MVP of 903 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 6: the league. 904 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 5: But when they win, do we say, you know, Adron 905 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 5: Bland had a you know, even though Parsons had eight sacks, 906 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 5: Dron Bland did this thing too or were we all 907 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 5: saying Buffalo. 908 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 4: All right, I mean, you're right, well, you're right, you're. 909 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 2: Right that the criticism against the Cowboys was what were 910 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 2: you doing against these teams who could run the ball 911 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 2: on you and who were good? 912 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, where did you put your starts up? 913 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 2: That was that was said for the quarterback, I mean 914 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: the whole the whole outfit. 915 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 6: And that's where the that's where a whole argument about 916 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 6: playing him at linebacker versus defensive end comes into play, 917 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 6: because that's the way the teams have schemed it up 918 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 6: versus Michael and he has to be tougher to that 919 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 6: degree this season more than ever. 920 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: We're not doubting his talent. We're not doubting he is 921 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 2: one of the great players in the league. What we 922 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: are saying is, hey, man, when these playoff games are here, 923 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 2: when these big games are here right now, you're not 924 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: coming up with enough, and you have to come up 925 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: with more, because that's what the great ones do. And 926 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: I am one of those who refuses to even think 927 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: and talk about him in the class of Lawrence Taylor 928 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: because I just think Lawrence Taylor's out there. Okay, When 929 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 2: I think about the best defensive players in the game. 930 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be Lawrence Taylor's joke. You know, linebackers, spies, 931 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: Joe Green, these dudes. 932 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 2: When you turn on the tape, man, they were tossing 933 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: folks and when the biggest moments the Super Bowl, just 934 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: tossing people. Man, you gotta get there. You can't just 935 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: keep talking about it. You gotta get. 936 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 6: Michael Parsons is leaving left tackles in his Come on, man, 937 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 6: you see how this guy is running by people. Don't 938 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 6: You're taking isolated games and you're saying, look, this is 939 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 6: a game you didn't show up in. But you're not 940 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 6: talking about the games where he had two sacks. You're 941 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 6: not talking about the game. Come on, mane that's what 942 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 6: I'm saying. 943 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 4: That's easy to do, that's easy to do. 944 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 6: But you're not gonna discount Michael. You but you're not 945 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 6: gonna do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. 946 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 6: Go ahead' gonna let you have that cake. I'm gonna 947 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 6: cut it too. Hey, I just cake, but that cake, yeah, 948 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 6: put it on me. Though I don't know fun stuff, 949 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 6: knew he would. 950 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 3: Fun. Thank you checking players right here. 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