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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It's a lovely Tuesday here

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. Still a little inndy out there. Yeah, everything's

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Speaker 3: birds are chirping, springs, Yeah, spring is here, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: and well Steelers are still looking for a quarterback. They

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Speaker 3: are at some point that will happen. There's all kinds.

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Speaker 3: So just torn around as I was waiting for the

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Speaker 3: show to start here, I'm just like looking around different

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Speaker 3: different things that are out there on the Internet. And

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Speaker 3: it's amazing to me how many people are trying to

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Speaker 3: drum up false stuff regarding quarterback stuff with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I can only imagine it's just, oh, Steelers meeting with

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Speaker 3: this guy. Steelers might be interested in that guy Steeler.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's easy clickbait, you know, just throw out

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Speaker 1: a name and associated with the Steelers quarter and the quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna click on.

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Speaker 3: All the mock crafts coming out now, like seventy five

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Speaker 3: percent of them now Steelers and Jackson Dart Yes, Steelers

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Speaker 3: and Jackson. They don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterback. What are they going to do?

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Speaker 1: It hasn't changed much in the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and nothing has changed. The internet would react so differently.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rogers could retire. I mean, I keeps hearing

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Speaker 1: he wants to go to the Vikings. Even if he does,

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Speaker 1: they don't seem to want him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even knowing.

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Speaker 1: Is makes me start for either side and the like.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. If you start looking at the salary

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Speaker 3: cap space available. I haven't looked at the Vikes, but

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Speaker 3: they don't have any. They don't have a lot of space

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Speaker 3: to sign it. Then the space to sign another quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean they've got well they've got right now. And this,

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Speaker 3: according to spot track, thirty two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I don't know sure they could get them under I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they were figured it out. Draft picks gonna cost time,

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. You have to have enough money to

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Speaker 1: I say, and you want to have some cash, some

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Speaker 3: So let's let's say your your draft class, and you

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Speaker 1: A little cheaper because they don't have two and threes,

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Speaker 3: So let's say their draft class is going to cost

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Speaker 3: But they might want to get back into those rounds.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, doesn't mean you don't you know what picks

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Speaker 1: you're going to make eight the second, the second. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: mean they can make space, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: But they also need operating space during the season, so

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Speaker 3: you probably And because the value when when Kevin Colbert

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Speaker 3: was the Steelers general manager always said well, we need,

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Speaker 3: you know, about four million dollars to sign guys during

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Speaker 1: Of the season.

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Speaker 3: I think that's going out, that's going up considerably with

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Speaker 3: salaries like what's seven to fifty eight hundred thousand dollars?

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Speaker 3: Four million doesn't buy you a lot anymore. If you're

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Speaker 3: need to sign ten guys. Now, that cost goes down

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Speaker 1: Season, right, right, you'll have to pay him for week one,

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Speaker 1: right if you sign in week three, right, But.

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Speaker 3: So you you better go into the season with about

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Speaker 3: eight million dollars at least, Yeah, in available cap space

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Speaker 3: fifteen fifteen for draft and you know, spare change. It

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Speaker 3: might be more than that. Like some of these draft

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Speaker 1: Like the Browns will be really expensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have serious, you know, serious draft capital, and

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Speaker 3: to you got to kind of look at them and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: They don't really they don't, which brings me done another point.

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Speaker 1: get some spare change. Maybe this guy that's making ten

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Speaker 3: For the other thing is like the Giants right now

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Speaker 1: There are some teams, I mean, if I know, the

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Speaker 3: When you start looking at potential, you know, where's Rogers

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Speaker 3: two almost forty three million dollars in space still is.

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Speaker 1: Quite a bit and a lot of ability to make

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Speaker 3: If they really want to. So that's the sixth most

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Speaker 1: And whatever he makes this year, he's going to get

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Speaker 3: Right you know, you can put some team, you can

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Speaker 3: But you know, are you gonna want to be paying

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers four years from now? No, No, that's not

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Speaker 1: I would think it's more or less a two year

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe one voidable year and the end just

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Speaker 3: don't think he'll be crazy expensive. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, money aside, it just doesn't make much sense

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a good mentor a bad mentor.

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Speaker 1: He's not going there to be the backup. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Flacco would make. It would make all the sense in

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Speaker 1: Cheaper knowses a role at this point, you know, is

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Speaker 3: But he's capable of stepping in and starting a few

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Speaker 1: But if you think that's what the bikes are looking for, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You're in on McCarthy. We showed that last year by

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Speaker 1: Why I don't have these picks in the day two

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Speaker 1: That's why you did all the scouting last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just don't understand the you know, the

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Speaker 3: well you know, is there the fact that he came

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Speaker 1: There's real interest there.

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Speaker 3: It tells me he A, he's interested in b He's

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Speaker 3: probably not going You don't make that trip, don't You

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Speaker 3: don't uproot your life and say, oh, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna fly to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh Day. I'm not

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Speaker 3: interested in playing this year, but yeah, I'm gonna hop

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Speaker 1: Just for the fun of it, just for the fun

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Speaker 1: I think everything indicates that in a very strong manner.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Giants do something insane and offer him fifteen

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Speaker 3: Great and they would have less than twenty million in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't have a lot of Cam Hayward TJ.

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Speaker 3: They don't have any banks that they can go to.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they could get something out of Dexter, Lawrence

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what all the signs point to. So

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Speaker 3: all this other stuff to me is window dressing. Steelers

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Speaker 3: It would only be because they love the rutterback available. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I just don't know that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: Not for me, Not for me, Yeah, I mean not

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Speaker 1: for me. I mean I haven't done as much Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart homework as they have, or should or Sanders homework

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Speaker 1: or have as many eyeballs on them. But to me,

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Speaker 1: that's not the move to make. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well that leads me to UH player comps and this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he joined us as a combine and he's really

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Speaker 3: At Pro Football Focus, and he went through and did

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Speaker 3: player comps for the top the top one hundred players

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Speaker 3: on his list. And so I'm going to give you

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Speaker 3: the comps for these top quarterbacks, and he doesn't have these.

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Speaker 3: They're in the order that he has them in here.

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Speaker 3: The first of all, I'm sure wards not far off.

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Speaker 3: But I know when I looked at this earlier, the

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good one. I think he could

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Speaker 3: Took Gino Smith ten years become that guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right, like, and I'm a fan. I think

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Speaker 3: That's not a slam dunk. Oh I got to take

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Speaker 3: And that's Sanders, Okay, Yeah, I think Dart might have

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Speaker 3: Comp for cam Ward, he's he's going to be the

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Speaker 1: Ooh? Interesting? Not as accurate as Ben, and comps are

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Speaker 1: I mean I could have guessed who's pretty low if

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. Like you just mentioned Ben, and

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm do way that low. Reverer knows the stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm into the eighties and no quarterbacks and no other

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Speaker 1: Pretty deep draft. I wouldn't blow me away. Not to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jaylen Milroe is his next guy. Okay, Dart's not

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: he was second, right, I mean he was, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the league is not Michael Vick had just come

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Speaker 3: These are guys that in today's game because there's just

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Speaker 1: Would have been different. Would be different, be different, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But this idea that suddenly Jackson Dart is pushing into

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Speaker 1: I don't see it at all. And it happens every year.

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Speaker 1: it's and trust me, Dart would be my top one

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Speaker 1: if he was fiftieth for me, I can't take him

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Speaker 1: But if there's so many more players you prefer, and

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Speaker 3: That's where you get into troupe. That's where that's where

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Speaker 3: I talked to him at the Senior ball. Seems like

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. But that's that's the definition of a reach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially you know if you take a quarterback. Let's

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Speaker 3: Taking jay Len Milroe in the third round, however, is

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Speaker 3: not a reach, No, because there again he's in that

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Speaker 3: You like him and you have a need and then

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Speaker 1: I mean the other thing about quarterbacks, like every position,

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Speaker 1: I possibly can. Milroe and Dart there are very different players,

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Speaker 3: Now? Dart did have some time outside of that particular program,

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just don't know that. I

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Speaker 1: And we've gone through this, but there's so few second

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and when you don't, you end up with

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to point to Jalen Hurts, Well, they got

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Speaker 1: No. I mean car Kaepernick, Dalton were all second round picks.

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Speaker 3: Change times of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can't hit in the second round

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right, that's changed over the time that

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just automatically. Your top quarterbacks doesn't matter where

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Speaker 1: And we can hit one and we can go buy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Dart's a perfect example. Would be great, the

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Speaker 3: Of them, right, you know, But he sat for three

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Speaker 3: wasn't great right away.

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Speaker 1: And I've referenced this. I was part of the Browns

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Speaker 1: the Rogers year, So, I mean he came up as

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Speaker 1: a first round prospect. We'd like them better than Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to write a report on him, but

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of free time and my buddy

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Speaker 1: James and I would just watch guys late at night,

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Speaker 1: and he was good, but he wasn't the player he

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Speaker 1: turned into. I mean, like the Cow tape is fine,

447
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Speaker 1: but it's not MVP Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not just flicking the ball over.

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Speaker 1: He got lot. He was a late bloomer. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he got really really good age twenty five ish longer.

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Speaker 1: You know, the cow version. It wasn't a slam dunk.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it would have been first picking the draft

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Speaker 3: if it was the guy he saw at Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Right now, anyways, let's get to a break. When we

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Speaker 3: come back, we're going to get into more of these

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Speaker 3: the comp comps school. Okay, take a look at some

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Speaker 3: of the other players in this draft to see who

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Speaker 3: Trevor Sakima compares them to. It just kind of gives

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Speaker 3: you a little bit of a visual on some of these.

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Speaker 1: Bad at doing comps. But I like the idea of

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Speaker 1: thinking about players through other lenses, like ye too.

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Speaker 3: So let's do that when we return. He's Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale, Allie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Matt.

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Speaker 3: Now, I will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale, Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And as I mentioned, we're going to get

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Speaker 3: into some of these comparisons here. Yeah, that Trevor si

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Speaker 3: Chema has come up with on Pro football. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to speak for him and get ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't looked at these yet, but I think

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Speaker 3: Trevor's good. Just listening him on the on the air.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to give you, Oh he minds me

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Speaker 3: of Reggie White, No, Joe Green. You know ones that

479
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Speaker 3: aren't real.

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Speaker 1: I mean we got the Teddy Bridgewater one, and you

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Speaker 1: know right.

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Speaker 3: Right, they're not super complimentary necessarily, right right, Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who you could bury him to. He says,

484
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Speaker 3: Champ Bailey's cornerback, right.

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Speaker 1: I think Hunter is a lot better receiver.

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Speaker 3: He's listening to him just as a corner, as.

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Speaker 1: A corner a champion. They play both ways at Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Abdull Carter, I don't know that I agree with this one,

489
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Speaker 3: but he has Michael Parsons. Abdul Carter not the next

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: No, I think they're very different. If they didn't have

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Speaker 1: those ugly Penn State jerseys eleven no nothing on the back,

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Speaker 1: and they one was in blue and one was in

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Speaker 1: red or whatever. I don't think you'd compare the two

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Speaker 1: of them. I know one. They both started as linebackers.

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Speaker 1: They became edge dudes. But Parsons is so good, maybe

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Speaker 1: the best that I can remember at I'm attacking this

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Speaker 1: shoulder and my lateral agility boom, I can just go

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Speaker 1: the other way when I get you lean in like.

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Speaker 1: I think Carter is more straight lineish and not nearly

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Speaker 1: as powerful. If he turns into Michael Parsons, forget about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean Parsons is a special, special player.

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Speaker 3: His number three player is Ted McMillan.

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Speaker 1: Is it.

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Speaker 3: His player comp on him is a J I don't

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Speaker 3: see that.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that one at all. I could see

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Speaker 1: Drake London. Yeah, I mean AJ Green was fast. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: AJ Green could run.

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Speaker 1: He was a deep threat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't see a J. Green when

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Speaker 3: I watched film.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Millon's a little more physical, you know. I

514
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Speaker 1: think their style is a little different too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mason Grant. His comp is Tommy Harris.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. Tommy Harris was a true

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Speaker 1: three technique early pick exploded off the ball. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a better athlete than Graham, but that's how they win,

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Speaker 1: you know, and their interior pass rushers. That's the one

520
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Speaker 1: thing about Graham. I've been hard on him because short

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Speaker 1: arms on all these great athletes. He's not huge.

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Speaker 3: He's got a good motor and yeah, gets off the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean third down interior pass rush. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah for sure. Uh, Ashton Genty his

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Speaker 3: comp is Alvin Kamara. Contact balance, yeah, con type balance. Yep,

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Speaker 3: it's not a bad one. I didn't know this until

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Speaker 3: actually driving here. GENTI started his career as wide out.

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Speaker 3: I knew he's a good receiver, but I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't look like a wide out. Will Campbell,

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Speaker 3: the offensive tackle out of LSU. His comp is Ryan Ramsick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's not bad. I mean, Ramsey had a really

533
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Speaker 1: good career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Campbell can stay a tackle, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know I think he can. He moves well.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he moves real well. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: John A. Barron, the high. He is him at seven.

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Speaker 3: The player compass Sefon Gilmore.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a lot more versatile than that.

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Speaker 3: I look at gils not as long as Gilmore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think Baron's better near the ball slot stuff.

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Speaker 1: Gilmore is probably the better. I mean Gilmore won defense VP,

544
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Speaker 1: I mean really good for a while. But I mean

545
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Speaker 1: outside the numbers, press man guy, he was kind of prototype.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Warren is his number eight player. His compass Dallas Klo.

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Speaker 1: Clark's first round pick, had a good career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Warren's bigger.

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Speaker 1: I say Warren's more physical and harder to attack. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Warren wins a race against Clark.

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Speaker 1: Clark could move, he can, Yeah, he'd run. He had

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Speaker 1: a good combine and he could stretch to see him.

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Speaker 3: But his size gives him that seam stretching ability.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, six six, it's not a bad camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: highly productive.

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Speaker 3: Both Malachi Starks the safety out of Georgia. That's his

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Speaker 3: ninth player, Kevin Byard. Okay, he's got true free safety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right right. I mean he can do a

559
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Speaker 1: lot of things, but he takes the ball away. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot of false steps. Byed's a smart player,

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Speaker 1: fired a good career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh. At ten, he has g Hud Campbell high

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Speaker 3: as I've seen Johudd Campbell. Yeah yeah, the linebacker out

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Speaker 3: of Alabama. His comp is Bernardrick McKinney.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, that's really it's going.

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Speaker 3: Back a little deeper there for deep Yeah yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: At eleven he as armand Membo his comp is Matthew Bergeron.

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Speaker 1: These aren't glowing for eleventh guys overall.

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Speaker 3: Well on this Hence the problem is that with this draft, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean people that love Membo will say Worfs.

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Speaker 3: I don't see Worf.

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Speaker 1: I mean Worfs is like an NCAA Champs shot putter

573
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Speaker 1: and two inches taller. And I mean they're both explosive, thick.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like Membo, if the Pats take them,

575
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Speaker 1: they're gonna as him play left tackle he never has. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know who knows.

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Speaker 3: Mike Green at a Marshall the edge rusher, and his

578
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Speaker 3: player comp is Robert Quinn.

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Speaker 1: Quinn was a really good player. Yeah. Quinn was a

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Speaker 1: great tester, super vertical, explode off the ball. And see

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Speaker 1: I mean first round pick, that's a good one. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Will Johnson the cornerback out of Michigan. The player

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Speaker 3: comp is current Steeler Darius Slay.

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Speaker 1: I can see that long, smart, maybe not the twitchiest

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Speaker 1: or the pure fastest on their best day, but highly productive,

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Speaker 1: good football. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen this is an easy one. This Luther Burden, the

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Speaker 3: wide receiver at Missouri. The player compas Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 1: My co host on the podcast I do that. We

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Speaker 1: make fun of it every year that someone's going to

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Speaker 1: be compared to Debo this year. There's always a debo

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Speaker 1: in every draft. You know.

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Speaker 3: Really, what I thought of when I saw when I

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Speaker 3: watched Luther Burden take like everything that he caught was

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Speaker 3: throwing the ball and let him run.

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Speaker 1: After the year, go and make something happen, right, And he's.

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Speaker 3: Actually you know, I mean he's good, you know, like

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Speaker 3: Samuel running with the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'd line him up as an iback,

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Speaker 1: you know, and do that.

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Speaker 3: But fifteen he as James Pierce, the edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: of Tennessee. The player comp is Randy Gregory.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Gregory had some off the field stuff that made

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Speaker 1: and fall, but he was twitchy, long, lean like that. Okay,

605
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Speaker 1: not a super power player at sixteen.

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Speaker 3: He has Donovan Azureku, the edge rusher at of Boston College.

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Speaker 3: A lot of edge rushers in the top. The player

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Speaker 3: compas Christian Miller. Christian Miller, why don't I remember of Alabama?

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Speaker 1: Okay, he was a twitchy guy too. I think that

610
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Speaker 1: didn't really work out. He hid an injury or something

611
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Speaker 1: early or something weird happened early in his career, okay,

612
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Speaker 1: because he didn't last.

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Speaker 3: Seventeenth for him is Kenneth Grant. The player compass bj

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Speaker 3: Raji taller though taller version of yeah, yeah, that's not bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean people might remember Raji w and the Steelers

616
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Speaker 1: played them in the.

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Speaker 3: Super Pass Rush US. Yeah, he was a first round

618
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Speaker 3: pick and kind of looked like a big, fat anchor guy.

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Speaker 1: But did more than that. You know, he could really move.

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Speaker 1: I mean that this is a pie in the sky one.

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Speaker 1: But I often bring up Vitavea with Grant, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's that imposing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen for him is Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle out

624
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Speaker 3: of Ohio State, and he's got an injury. But the

625
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Speaker 3: player comp is Christian Darisaw.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very similar in styles.

627
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Speaker 3: And which is why he could go higher.

628
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he knew, got clear bill of health. I mean

629
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Speaker 1: he could go easily top ten if he's cleaned in

630
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. There are those of the best tackles.

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Speaker 3: Elite Egbuka out of Ohio State to wide receiver. His

632
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Speaker 3: player camp is a mon Ross Saint Brown.

633
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Speaker 1: I wouldna say, more like a Shakir probably somewhere in between,

634
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Speaker 1: somewhere in between. The Saint Brown's pretty strong camp. But

635
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Speaker 1: he's that's his second receiver. Oh no, he's there. Yeah,

636
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Speaker 1: I mean, Saint Brown's a great player, but he's a

637
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Speaker 1: certain type. Right.

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Speaker 3: At twenty he has Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle

639
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Speaker 3: out of Texas. His player comp is Elijah vera Tucker

640
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Speaker 3: tackle by trade that might be better at guard, similar

641
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Speaker 3: body types. I like that one a lot. Yeah, we

642
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Speaker 3: brought Barah Tucker. Yes, right too. At twenty one, he

643
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Speaker 3: has cam Ward.

644
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Speaker 1: Okay, we did that one.

645
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Speaker 3: We did that when that was Roethlisberger. At twenty two,

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Speaker 3: he has Matthew Golden his player compas Stefon Diggs.

647
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Speaker 1: I like that. I think Golden's clearly going to be

648
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Speaker 1: my wide receiver one the more I've watched them. His

649
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Speaker 1: stop start is really really good. Route runners are really good.

650
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Speaker 1: Digs could do everything. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

651
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Speaker 3: Twenty three for him is Walter Nolan Okay. The player

652
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Speaker 3: comp is Milton Williams, a guy a lot of Steeler

653
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Speaker 3: fans wanted I.

654
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Speaker 1: Could one dred percent see that. I mean Williams was

655
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Speaker 1: a supreme tester.

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Speaker 3: Out of a small suit, ridiculous test.

657
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and has the length of body, type the tools.

658
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: The difference is when Williams was coming out, if I

659
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: remember correctly, he was like two hundred and eighty pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: he was a little I'll take this version of Nolan

661
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Speaker 3: over that version of Williams, and I hope Nolan turns

662
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Speaker 3: into what Williams has become now. But yeah, he was

663
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: a work in progress. So when people say why you

664
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: so sold on Walter Nolan, I'm like, well, that guy

665
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: just got paid twenty six million dollars.

666
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he had trades, he got trades.

667
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: Serious. Yeah.

668
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four is Omarion Hampton, Okay, running back out of

670
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: North Carolina. The player comp is former Steeler Rashard Mendenhall. Okay,

671
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: do you see that. I got kind of remember Mendenhall

672
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: batter his first round pick. Men, Mendenhall gets a bad

673
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: rap because of the fumble in the in the super Bowl.

674
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: They don't any kind of an odd dude too. He

675
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: was an odd dude.

676
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but they don't get to the super Bowl

677
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: that year without Rashard Mendell or Sharp Mendenhall, like sixteen

678
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: hundred used.

679
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: It's a monster that season. First round fantasy back. Yeah. Yeah,

680
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: his rookie year.

681
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: Got blown out by ray Lewis.

682
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Okay, actually his shoulder.

683
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: But he was a good player for the Steelers and

684
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: similar size, twenty pound running back.

685
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds accurate. Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound

686
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, menden Hall did go to the Hall of Fame,

687
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: so it doesn't sound great. But he was the first

688
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: round back.

689
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he had it. He was a solid

690
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: player for the Steels, very talented.

691
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

692
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: Twenty five is Colston Loveland the tight end out of

693
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: Michigan the player compass Tyler Eifert.

694
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I was an Effort fan.

695
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: Iifort could run first round back shoulder blocking people.

696
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, that's in the comp But.

697
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: He does make those kind of athletic catches that.

698
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, body can tours. Yeah, that's not

699
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: bad at all.

700
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: Twenty six is MIKEL Williams the addresser out of Georgia

701
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: player compassed Jermaine Johnson.

702
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: But I'm a Jermaine Johnson fan. I could see the

703
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: comps there. They're both very powerful power they can run

704
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: through you, right, okay, Jets miss Johnson, all you.

705
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart the edge rusher out of Texas A and

706
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: m Dietrich Wise. It's not a glowing it's not a

707
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: glowing endorse.

708
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Me a solid player and has some tools, but.

709
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: People are talking about this guy in the first round.

710
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: Then yeah, if Dietrich Wise is your calm, like, yeah,

711
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: Jaylen Walker linebacker at Georgia Devin White.

712
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: Hmmm. You wonder would White have been better off being

713
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: a speedball off the edge as opposed to read and

714
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: react linebacker type. He just didn't have the length to

715
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: do it consistently, and I'm not sure Walker does either. Then.

716
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, like people are so enamored with Walker and

717
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: he tapes fun players like him.

718
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: You better have a plan if you draft him.

719
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like there aren't many guys with his

720
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: dimensions that rush the passer super well.

721
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: I think he's an off ball linebacker and then then

722
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: he worries me. Yeah, I don't think he's specials off

723
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: the ball linebacker because I want him if if I'm

724
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: to use him as an off ball linebacker, he's gonna

725
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: be rushing the passer on third down situation sixty percent

726
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: of the time. Okay, I'm just gonna I'm gonna Kendrell

727
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: Bell it up with him.

728
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeahs.

729
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Basically what I'm gonna do just keep blitzing, keep blitzing.

730
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: He needs a creative scheme and coordinator.

731
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: Though, because he can't get to the quarterback.

732
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: And he can, he can, but there are many guys

733
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: just dimensions just line up against NFL left tackles and win.

734
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: I just yeah, I just don't see that.

735
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

736
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Speaker 3: Twenty nine for him is Gray's Abel, the offensive lineman

737
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: at of North Dakota State, and the player camp is

738
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 3: Graham Barton.

739
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's perfect. Yeah, that's that's recent. That's a tackle

740
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: going inside. I was able to end up at guard center,

741
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: but that's where he belongs and he should be a

742
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: really good one.

743
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: At thirty. He has Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle from Oregon.

744
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: The player comp is Christian Barmore.

745
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Ooh, I like that a lot. Barmore has been out

746
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind because of his medical condition,

747
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: but he was coming out like Gamebusters, play a big contract.

748
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: Before that he turns into Christian Barmore. I'll take him.

749
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: Twenty one a heartbeat all day. Yeah. Yeah.

750
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: Thirty one is edge rusher Nick Scourton out of Texas

751
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: A and M. The player comp is Shaq Larsen or

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: Shaq Lawson.

753
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: I should say, okay, Skyleurton might even be bigger, thicker, stronger,

754
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: more physical, but similar style of how they win.

755
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Thirty two for him is Darius Alexander, the defensive

756
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: lineman out of Toledo. The player comp is Kawan Short.

757
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Really okay, I mean Short was what I think is

758
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: a little more explosive three technique style player. I bet

759
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: Short waged more. Short also had more of a belly.

760
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Jarrius Alexander's put together pretty well.

761
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Let's say he's really strapped together, strong, grown man strength,

762
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: and he's just thick. I mean there was a stint

763
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: there where Short was one of the best defense tackles

764
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: in the league.

765
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 3: Thirty three for him is Demetrius Night Junior, the linebacker

766
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: of South Carolina. The player comp is Bobby Okrique.

767
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: Okay, they both have the kind of that length and

768
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: the body type.

769
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: Thirty four is offensive tackle Josh Connery out of Oregon.

770
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: The player comp is Steelers offensive tackle Broderick Jones.

771
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I don't quite see that. I think I don't

772
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: think Connory is as physical or as powerful. Yeah, he

773
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: might even be a little more nimble, Like if they raced.

774
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: I bet Connory wins.

775
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones.

776
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: Jones pretty good on his feet. Yeah. I bet Jones

777
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: weighs twenty pounds more and is more powerful.

778
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: I think so.

779
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Uh, but there's some rawness with both of them coming

780
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: out of school. Yeah.

781
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 3: We'll just hand pick some different ones here the rest

782
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: of the way. Maybe we'll save this for the next segment. Yeah,

783
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: so let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

784
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

785
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: on the Steelers audio networker going through the player comps

786
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 3: here that Trevor Sikima came up with on Pro Football

787
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: Focus for some of the top draft guys. Here will

788
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: dig into some of these other ones here some guys

789
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: that interest us, see what they see who he calms

790
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Speaker 3: from to when we return right after this.

791
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Speaker 2: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

792
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

793
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Speaker 2: Black and Golds in Steelers Nation Radio.

794
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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

795
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. We're going through Trevor Sikima's pro comps here

796
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: or college, just taking a look here at some of

797
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: these guys. At thirty six, he has TJ. Sanders, the

798
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: defensive lineman out of South Carolina, and his pro player

799
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: comp is Quentin Jefferson.

800
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean he wins with initial quickness. Yeah, I

801
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: was aiming high. I was thinking like Geno Atkins in

802
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: my head. But I mean g knows really really good player.

803
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean Jefferson's a low light version of that, right,

804
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: you know?

805
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Right?

806
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? How about thirty seven tay Leek Williams. We've talked

807
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: about him several times on the show, the defensive tackle

808
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: out of Ohio State. The player comp is Deron Pain.

809
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Hmm. I would just say sort of hampton Ish, you know,

810
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: in terms of just power at the point. Hard to

811
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: move on a double team. Pain has some of that. Yeah,

812
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: I think Pain's a little bit better pass rusher.

813
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what he say. He says, versatile frame

814
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: to play both nose tackle and three technique.

815
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: So okay, Williams is interesting for the Steelers to me,

816
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: like if the trade down pretty far for him to

817
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: be my first pick, but boy, they could use him.

818
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: You could use him, yeah, I mean he does. Yeah,

819
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: he has a niche that is pretty nice.

820
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: Notre Dame safety Xavier Watts just thirty ninth rated player.

821
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: The player comp is now current Steeler one Thornhill. Okay,

822
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: I would say more single high, but that's really Thornhill's

823
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: back ground, two slot capable, takes the ball away. Good athlete.

824
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good player. I didn't do a lot

825
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: of Wats homework till we did our safety ranks, and

826
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's clearly number three for me. Yeah he clearly.

827
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he is for me as well. He's gonna

828
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: buzz through some of these. Uh, Nick m Ari, you

829
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: must have been pretty low on. That's just forty fifth

830
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: rated player the player comp and this is lay it

831
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: in Jerome or send it in Jerome. Isaiah Simmons that's great, right.

832
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: I mean they're like the same dude, right right.

833
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: And you wonder if Simmons would have been I mean,

834
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I know if the Cardinals were a bad environment. But

835
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: they asked him to do like five positions right at one.

836
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 3: That's what the Cardinals have done this time and again

837
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: many times, taking these guys in the first round and

838
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: then asking them to well, I know you were a

839
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: linebacker and college, we're gonna play it safety and taking

840
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: a safety and moving them to the linebacker, right, I mean,

841
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: like they just do it.

842
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: They're like three years in a row. Yeah, Read and

843
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins and I mean this staff hasn't but they

844
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes with the guys they drafted high.

845
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just take these these.

846
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Like they were love Devian Worry.

847
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: Tyler Booker, the guard out of Alabama. It's his forty

848
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: eighth rated player. The player comp was Tray Smith.

849
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: No, that's a good one. I mean he's a masher,

850
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: he's not a real outside zone lateral mover. Run behind

851
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: him on fourth and one, that's Booker to me, that's

852
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Tray Smith.

853
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Cam Scatibo who the player comp is Karen Williams, And

854
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: I see that, and I see that they both got

855
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: great contact balance. I don't think neither one of them.

856
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: I don't believe are a great athlete. And just notice

857
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: Scatabo didn't run again at his pro day.

858
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: He did jump well, he did jump well.

859
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: He does have some explosion, right, Karen Williams has some

860
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: explosion too, real bad forty real bad forty hard to tackle. Yeah,

861
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: they just highly competitive. At the end of the day,

862
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna hate playing against them, but they're not going

863
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: to run away from anything.

864
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: I remember people raving about Williams as like one of

865
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: the best captains in Notre Dame history, you know, like

866
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: the Gipper and Paul Hornet, like the guy love this dude,

867
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: you know.

868
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: Uh. Fifty two for him is Carson Swesssinger, the linebacker

869
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: out of UCLA. The player comp Steelers linebacker Peyton Wilson.

870
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, skin color thing there maybe a little bit,

871
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: but they do play similar They both cover a lot

872
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: of ground series playmakers not role holes in their game. Yeah.

873
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Fifty three famous Quinn Shawn Jenkins. And the player comp

874
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: is Damian Pierce.

875
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: Pierce was really good for a rookie year, and I

876
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: don't know what he did to get in the doghouse

877
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: but never got out of it in Houston. Yeah, I

878
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: think Judkins is more talented.

879
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: I think he is too.

880
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean that was faster. I think he's faster. I

881
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: think he's more explosive. But yeah, here's what's good for

882
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a year.

883
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see here, here's one of those guys.

884
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Like, if he's on the open market, give him a

885
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: league minimum contracted. Just get him in any other town

886
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: and see what happens.

887
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: This is a guy. Well, first of all, the player

888
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: is Jared Ivy, the edge rusher out of Mississippi. Now

889
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: the paper edge, you say, edge rusher out of Mississippi.

890
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: He is six six eighty five pounds. The player call

891
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: for him is a guy that we actually talked about yesterday.

892
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: I believe John Franklin Myers h I.

893
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Mean, Myers is not an edge, but maybe that's.

894
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: I think Jared Ivy is a guy who can play

895
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: inside or outside.

896
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good comp and maybe that should be

897
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: his goal. Like he should maybe watch Franklin Myers tape

898
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: and be like, oh and maybe I can make that evolution.

899
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: You know.

900
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ivy to me is interesting. He could

901
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: be like one of those mid round targets for the Steelers, Like, okay,

902
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: you don't necessarily you don't get one of those guys.

903
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: Let's say you take Kenneth Grant in the first round.

904
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: We've kind of glossed over a guy like Ivy later

905
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: in the draft, like this is the guy's a true

906
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: like three four ends.

907
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think he's kind of a Leal

908
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: but longer.

909
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: Taller, easier for him, Like he's more like he's more

910
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: Brett Keesel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a guy that's like six'

911
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: five six six that could easily put on ten.

912
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: POUNDS i, mean you'd remember it's even better THAN i.

913
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Do BUT i think when they Drafted Aaron, smith he

914
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: was like two sixty. Five, YEAH i mean it'd ended

915
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: up being two. Ninety, yeah you, know maybe, that but he.

916
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: Was coming out of a small smaller, sure, sure, Right

917
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: but you, Know ivy's interesting to. Me he.

918
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: IS i wonder what they think of him scheme.

919
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: Wise uh Arianta, ersie the offensive tackle out Of. MINNESOTA

920
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: i think he's going to go higher than people think

921
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: the player Compass phil Lower, hool.

922
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: That's NOT i think he moved better Than phil Low.

923
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: HOL i would hope, so but you know that's that's

924
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 3: his player.

925
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Camp.

926
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: Okay Omar Norman, lott the defensive lineman out Of. Tennessee

927
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: the player Compass Kenny. Clark H i don't know if.

928
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: He's as, stout but boy he. Is he gets off

929
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: the ball as well as just about any detackle in his. Class,

930
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: yeah where would you? Have where would you for The?

931
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: Steelers what's your thoughts on? HIM i don't think he quite.

932
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: FIT i don't think he has the.

933
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Length, YEAH i wouldn't mind him on third and. Eight,

934
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: yeah but it's not enough of, those and you got

935
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: guys to do. That AND i hope the guy took

936
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: the first rounds out there on third and, eight, right yeah.

937
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: Right Dylan, sampson the running back out Of. Tennessee the

938
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 3: player Compass Tyrone tracy good.

939
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: ONE i didn't know until just recently that he's got

940
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: a bit of a fumbling problem. Too and we've talked

941
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: about tooting a, bunch But samson's ball security is so so.

942
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: Yeah Caleb, johnson the running back out Of. Iowa the

943
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: player comp Is Todd.

944
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Gurley, ooh that's pretty. Rich That's gurley was. SMOOTH i

945
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: don't Think johnson's is. Smooth johnson's pretty.

946
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: Smooth then he is a he is a very patient runner.

947
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Measured, yeah, Yeah i've heard Lef, bell which nobody. Runs

948
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: he's not.

949
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: That, yeah he's not quite. There AND i watched every

950
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: carry of Leve bell's in.

951
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Person nobody stop starts Like.

952
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like. That but But johnson is

953
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: patient like that and then.

954
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: EXPLODES i, mean he's really it fits. THIS i Bet

955
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: Arthur smith likes him a lot. Too he is inside.

956
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: Zone he didn't make my initial top five in our.

957
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: RANKINGS i just did my second go round through Today

958
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: he's back into my top.

959
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: Five who was five for? YOU i bumped Scat, okay

960
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: that makes. Sense, YEAH i THINK i Prefer johnson Over.

961
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Scatterbo let's see what else we.

962
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: Got, well this is one of Your Benjamin, morrison the

963
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: cornerback at A Notre, dame the player Camp pulson To.

964
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: Deabo, OKAY i haven't watched Much morrison because it's always

965
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: injury stuff and it's so long. AGO i was shocked

966
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: To debo got the money he. Did but he was

967
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: a talented man coverage with, length aggressive.

968
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: Corner we'll do one last one HERE. Cj, west the

969
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: nose tackle out Of. Indiana he has him at sixty

970
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: nine on his list player Camp Timmy.

971
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: Jernigan jernigan was a good player At Florida. State, yeah.

972
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: THICK i Think west is a little, nosier But jernigan

973
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: did some nose stuff and had a pretty good stint

974
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: with The. Ravens. YEAH i mean he was a, thick strong. Dude,

975
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: yeah So i'm A west. Fan he's a good. PLAYER

976
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: i consider him the third round for The. Steeler, yeah

977
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: he's a good.

978
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: Player let's get to another break that's going to do

979
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 3: it for our number. One those were some Of Trevor

980
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: sikima's player comps here for this. Draft you can check

981
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: that out On Pro Football. Focus He's Matt. Williamson I'm Dale.

982
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: Lolli you're listening to the drive here on The Steelers Audio.

983
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: Network we'll be back with our number two right after

984
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:55,680
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