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Speaker 1: Ron and An experience speaks volumes right, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: the things that you can't see me in a book,

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, Is there really a break in procedure

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't get a straight answer any manufacturer.

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Speaker 1: get a fuel for it. Welcome to the radio home

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Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian The Car Doctor. It's this is

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Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive

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Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If you're mechanics giving you a

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Speaker 1: Do orders are open? But I am here to take

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Speaker 1: your calls at eight five and now he running. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have a strange job I do, I you know,

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Speaker 1: And I get up here every week and I tell

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Speaker 1: you the same thing I think, or I say the

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Speaker 1: same thing, and I realize that. But I'm very fortunate job,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think it's anything but fixing cars, because you know,

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Speaker 1: an auto repair shop is an evolution. If you'll if

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Speaker 1: You see, you know it's a generational thing. You'll see

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Speaker 1: to Jean. We've been talking of late with you about uh,

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Speaker 1: an International Break and the International Break is a huge

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Speaker 1: I am Ron anning of the car doctor. I'll return

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Speaker 1: right after this. Whether it's a little red Corvette or

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Speaker 1: back to Ron. It seems that this is the week

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Speaker 1: of t pms. I had them. I had dinner Wednesday

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Speaker 1: struggling too much to keep Tom under control. Gary from Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. Tom,

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Speaker 1: International break Industries. Everything you want to know about the

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Speaker 1: Quality and International Break Industries. They are the break industry

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Speaker 1: make up break hardware and how do they interact with

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00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: the pads and rotors. So in AH, in a disc

428
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: brake system, it's the clips, it's the pen boots, it's

429
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: the guide pens, all of those retainer springs, all of

430
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: those are considered part of the hardware and they're ensuring

431
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: that the caliper is is compressing properly as well as

432
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: moving um and operating at optimal conditions. So when you're

433
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: again when you're when you're pressing those brake pedals, it

434
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: is apps totally wearing all of that and that heat

435
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: is putting pressure and stress on those components. So um,

436
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: if if a guide pen becomes rusty, it seizes up

437
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: over time, and so if you've used it over an

438
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: old guide pen, over multiple break changes, it gets rusty,

439
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: it ceases. Now what you're gonna see is premature chips

440
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: where on those brake paths, on even where And now

441
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: you've spent good money on a good break pad and

442
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: in turn, you've just uh, you've ruined it as you've

443
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: you've driven because of not changing out your hardware. So

444
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't change you know, the

445
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: hardware when you do pads and rotors, you're you're really

446
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: you're doing yourself at this service because the system is

447
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: not really going to operate as well as it could

448
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: or as well as it should, and you're going to

449
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: shorten pad life, rotor life, and defeat the purpose of

450
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: what you were trying to do in the first place. Absolutely,

451
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: and and suffice it to say, you know when you

452
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: take that, you know, I've taken hundreds of clips off

453
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: of Caliper slides and guides and you know it's just dirty,

454
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: but just cleaning it. You know, I want to ever

455
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: to understand when you're talking that they're worn out. You're

456
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: talking the thickness of that shim is worn because the

457
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: brake pad has slid against it how many times in

458
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 1: the course of its life cycle, and now perhaps if

459
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: you reuse that shim, it's it's not going to have

460
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: the same snug fit. It's gonna be a little on

461
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: the sloppy side at some level, and it's going to

462
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: create issues anything from noise to the way the brakes

463
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: operate in terms of apply to possibly sticking getting stuck

464
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: and causing a pull. Absolutely, I mean very good point.

465
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: The shims themselves are made out of a stainless steel,

466
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: so the most they should be is dirty at the

467
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: point when you remove them, and they're going to look

468
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: um like they're in good condition. However, if you took

469
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: those off and took the design of that product and

470
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: measured it, you would see that they were out of tolerance.

471
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: And that's where the problem comes is it's not so

472
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: much that there you know that they look bad because

473
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: they should look good. It's because they're out of tolerance

474
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: with all that pressure and all the heat that's put

475
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: into them over the life of the break A recent

476
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: break job I did Gene and for those of you

477
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: just joining us, we're talking to Gene triple It. He's

478
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: the vice president of engineering at International Break Industries, gene

479
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: the you know, I recently did a break job but

480
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: was on it was on Toyota camera, Late Mont Toyota camera.

481
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: It needed a caliper, so I did pads rotors and

482
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: it needed a caliper. And well didn't need a caliper.

483
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: I take that back, It didn't need a caliper. It

484
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: needed the you know, the the pin boot. The pins slide.

485
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: There's a rubber boot to keep moisture out. The pin

486
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: boot was was damaged. It needed to be replaced, and

487
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: the caliber worked fine otherwise. I was just concerned about

488
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: water intrusion. So I had to go find that pin boot.

489
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: The problem is, you know the the way the cataloging

490
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: is written, and you're not quite sure by application and specification.

491
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Finding the hardware can be a bit of a pain

492
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: in the neck. But and here's my point. Carlson has

493
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of Carlson. Carlson has come up

494
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: with something called the break job completion Kit. Have you

495
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: seen this? Are you aware of it? Absolutely? And and

496
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: you're correct. It is very difficult, um when you're looking

497
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: at your brake calipers to say what is all of

498
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: the hardware that is needed? And UM to do this

499
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: specific break job, because depending upon the vehicle and the application,

500
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: it could be anywhere from two kits all the way

501
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: up to five kits that you would need to buy

502
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: to do a full break hardware change out, and that

503
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Carlson Completion Kit is UM. What they've done is they've

504
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: taken all of those kits and put them into one box,

505
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: which makes it very easy because you go one play,

506
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: you decide that this is my application or my vehicle,

507
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: and I put an order in for it and that

508
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: shows up on your doorsteps. And in addition to that,

509
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: they've added the sandpaper, the brake cleaner, the grease, and

510
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: the shop rag to make to ensure that while you're

511
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: doing the break job, you're taking care of that whole

512
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: activity and ensuring you're doing it correctly. So you've got

513
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: a Toyota camera, you need a front you're you're doing

514
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: front breaks, and you need a Caliper pin boot. You

515
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: can just buy a Carlson quality breake kit, the break

516
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: job completion kit that Carlson has, and that will have

517
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: everything you need within it to repair that caliper as

518
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: far as hardware and boots and grease goes absolutely everything

519
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: you need one stop shopping. I like that. That's kind

520
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: of real and you don't have to waste your time

521
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: searching multiple different websites and ordering from you know, different

522
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: people or even the same company and as as well

523
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: and trying to get it or happen to go back

524
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: to the store to get it all. It's all in

525
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: one kid, real, real quick gene in sixty seconds or less.

526
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: For the guy out there who thinks doing a break

527
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: job just doing pads and not machining rotors, you've got

528
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that or replacing rotors, you've got any

529
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Why that's wrong? Because if you're if

530
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: you're doing all of that, where if you're replacing the

531
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: pads and you're not doing all the work with the

532
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: rotors as well, I mean, you're just damaging, ultimately damaging

533
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: and um reducing the life of your paths. You know,

534
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: it's you're you're affecting, aren't you affecting how that pad

535
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: seats in? Doesn't the finish of the rotor. My understanding

536
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: is the finish of the rotor helps raise the temperature

537
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: of the pad correctly and cures it. And it's like

538
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: the final curing process and helps create a good pad.

539
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: It's like the final the final step if we were

540
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: baking a cake. It's it's you know, it's it's it's

541
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: the final touches that comes out of the oven. Right absolutely, yeah,

542
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: So hey, real quick, do you have any ideas where

543
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: can they find them? Going back to the Carlson break

544
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: Job Completion Kit, where can the listeners find that? Is it?

545
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Is it available online? DNA? Yeah, it's available online at

546
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Amazon as well as UH. You can go to the

547
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Carlson UH website at UH Triple W Carlson Quality break

548
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: Parts dot Com and UH look up the applications. I'll

549
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: tell you exactly which kit that you need based on

550
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: your vehicle. And in addition to it, I would say

551
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: if if they're not out there, they're they're always adding

552
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: more and more applications all the time. Just let them

553
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: know you need an application and they can look into

554
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: it for you. Cool means gene. It was just a

555
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: lot of fun, I know, and you know you and

556
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: I were talking before the interview. We know we know

557
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: each other from somewhere. It shows you how small the

558
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: industry is, right Um. Yeah, So as as we get off,

559
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: we'll both remember it and we'll both remember the name

560
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: of that gentleman um that we were talking about and go, oh, yeah,

561
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: that's who it was. So listen, you'd be well, you'd

562
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: be safe, and you circle, you get it, you get

563
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: around to it, your circle, your way back, and we'll

564
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: be glad to talk to you again. There's always things

565
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: to talk about in the break industry. You be well,

566
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: all right, kiddo, Thank you very much, have a great

567
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: one you too. By bye. I'm roning any in the car. Doctor.

568
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, Welcome back,

569
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Geane Triplet. We appreciate him taking the time.

570
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, breaks are just such an important part of

571
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: the vehicle. Obviously we want you to stop. We want

572
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: you to stop safely and get maximum life. And I

573
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: can't stress the point of doing breaks. When you do breaks,

574
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: do pads and rotors. It's just that important that you know,

575
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: if you don't, you don't cure the brake pad properly

576
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: without a fresh rotor, they're either cut or replaced with

577
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: a fresh cut on it. And just just just don't

578
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: do it. It just doesn't pay. It'll come back to bite.

579
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: Just somewhere along the way. We had in palla. I'll

580
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: tell you this story. Now, I think you're a judging

581
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: by the comments on social media, I think you want

582
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: to see this. We had a IPALA this week in

583
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: the shop that was reporting a BS wheel speed sensor

584
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: performance with the left front and the issue was it

585
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: was intermittent. It didn't act up all the time, and

586
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, pulled the code for it, but it wouldn't

587
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: tell me anything above and beyond that is it is

588
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: its sensor related just says performance. When it says performance,

589
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: it's seeing an erratic signal is usually the interpretation that

590
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: comes back from the code description. And you know it

591
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: was able to see. I was able to graph it.

592
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I took it for a ride. It's not a scope,

593
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a quick and it's a poor

594
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: man easy way into the system. I set up scope

595
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: or graph function. I'm sorry. I set up graph function

596
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: on my hotel scan tool and graft that sensor, comparing

597
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: it to one of the others. I think the right front.

598
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: I just picked up front right front and I could

599
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: see there was what I will tell you is noise

600
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: on the line. You could see that the signal wasn't

601
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: clean left to right. The way the tool was interpreting it,

602
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. That's, you know, for what

603
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. That gives me a direction. Uh

604
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, I I know at least which end of

605
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the car I'm gonna work on, and I knew it

606
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: was left front, but I wanted to just compare signals.

607
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Sure enough, the left front signal wasn't as clear as

608
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: it could be. And I think we'll do a video

609
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: about this. That's a number two video, you one from

610
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: the week before about the Honda. I haven't forgotten yet.

611
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: I have the paperwork sitting on my desk and just

612
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: at the shoot the video. Will do that Monday. But um,

613
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, I knew it was performance well, you know,

614
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I went to the a BS controller and because this

615
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: is that type of a system, I was able to

616
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: swap the pins out for the right front and the

617
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: left front, clear the code and see what returned. And

618
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: the system now produced a right front signal fall, meaning

619
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: that the left front wiring was going to the right

620
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: front input of the BCM. The I'm sorry, the a

621
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: B S controller and it's telling me that it's either

622
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: wiring or the speed sensor. Speed center is part of

623
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: the A B S hub. It's part a part of

624
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: the wheel bearing. Hup, it's all part and parcel one

625
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: of the same. So there wasn't a lot I could

626
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: do with it. And I said, you know what, let's

627
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: go look at wiring. And I carefully followed the wiring

628
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: coming out of the sensor and there was a bend

629
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: just underneath were dipped below the control. I mean, you

630
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: can see how hard of a pull it was. And

631
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: I took it out of the split loom that it

632
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: was in, took my thumbnail and dragged it across the wiring.

633
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: And I felt a little indentation that just didn't feel right.

634
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, we're not supposed to have lumps in the

635
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: wiring harness. It's supposed to be smooth underneath. And I

636
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: gave it a little bit of manipulation and pulled on it.

637
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: It started to pull apart like taffy. Sure enough, the

638
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: whole thing just fell apart in my hands. That had

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Speaker 1: not sensor. And sometimes it's just a matter of looking.

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, step by step, process by process,

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Speaker 1: a nice clean crisp signal just like the right front

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Speaker 1: have to be part swapping. You can diagnose these things.

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Speaker 1: your get your question up here on here to answer. Um.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a vacation in August this year, and

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Speaker 1: a message with Tom and well, you know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: that in mind. Um, I saw this in the news. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as high tech as everything gets right, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking about electric vehicles. Turns out this recalls about electrics.

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Speaker 1: Subaru and Toyota are recalling more than electric vehicles globally

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Speaker 1: because of a risk. Now I could understand all the

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect to hear about this because of a

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Speaker 1: So we're making an electric vehicle. We've gone through all

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Speaker 1: the high tech. This is sort of like you put

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Speaker 1: the Saturn rocket, or I'm dating myself. You put the

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Speaker 1: rocket on the launch pad, you got the astronauts strapped in,

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Speaker 1: you're all ready to go, and somebody forgot to fill

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Speaker 1: you know the wheels are gonna fall off. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So hopefully you're not driving one of those

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