1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: The biggest dance trend on the Internet right now is 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: called the Renegade. Who created it and the story behind 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: it was a mystery. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, a dance took over the Internet. It 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: was fresh, it was everywhere, It was viral. K Camp's 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: song Lottery became a cultural moment, but behind the scenes, 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: a young black creator was erased from her own creation. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: The dance she started became a global trend without her 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: name attached. Brands, influencers, and celebrities capitalized while she was 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: left behind. For the first time ever, k Camp speaks 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: out the truth, the controversy, the culture. This is bigger 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: than one song. This is about respect, credit and the 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: fight for fairness. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: To my understanding, I ain't real to go too deep, mans. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: I take it where somebody stole. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Jelia started to dance. She created a dance. Julaya is 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: a dancer, you know, created a dance and started catching 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: steam on tik tok. The white girls would Chamillia yeah, 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: because I was laid in to dance after the game. 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: When it came out, it came out very unexpectedly. 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: I used to dance. 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: I used to take a dance class about five days 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: a week. And so this was like just a regular 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: day for me. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: I was in my bathroom right before class, just trying to. 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, kill time before my mom was just. 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: To go level. 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: But I just feel like that was God, you know 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: And at the same time, I feel like personally, I 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: ain't really get what I was supposed to get from 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: breaking that platform. 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm you know what I'm saying, I broke that Marble. 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be no tik talking all this dance shit 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for me in Ju Laya. 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 37 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: None of you were just dropping just to try to 38 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: keep the momentum. 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: I was dropping to feed my fans. I was dropping 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: to keep this shit going, you know what I'm saying. 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I knew I had a fan base, you know what 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that was building. I was just trying to 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: keep my name relevant. 44 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: How many years you go not making no money? 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: I went like two or three, Yeah, bro, they came back. 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I had called I had a lot of it was 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: going crazy, but shit had like probably like I think 48 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: it was. 49 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: Like ninety something million streams. 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Without and the scope help. So I got on Twitter 51 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and I tagged. Joe was like, hey, man, this song 52 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: doing blah blah blah streams and y'all ain't doing shit. 53 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Y'all ain't me let me go. I put it on 54 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: the Twitter. 55 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, the business behind the 56 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: song that went to Fortnite? Did you get paid from Fortnite? 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 58 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I really want to put business number one, because one 59 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: thing I didn't know is the business. Like I went 60 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: on God, I went about two or three years without 61 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: checking my bank account. Bro run the mainstream and I 62 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: got a story about that. That know about it when 63 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: they come to Apple Music and Spotify, training air like. 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: All pe Dauph, Pete Dak. 65 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: This was this before Gasi became Gussi the big Dog. 66 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because. 67 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I like, I 68 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: like to just move around. You know what I'm saying. Secure, 69 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For one, if I don't 70 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm walking into or if it's a club, 71 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Some other ship, but like 72 00:02:59,520 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be more. 73 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: I was up in the black truck and it went 74 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: up and do people be looking like man? Campaign got 75 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: nobody with him all the time. I see you by 76 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: yourself though. He was at the the basketball ship where 77 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: revote at the. 78 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: T L t c L. 79 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: Everybody was that, Yeah, yeah you walked in, you kid. 80 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: I'm with my game. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I always 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 4: think about this. It's crazy y'all got into a fight 82 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: in my town though recently. No, he's that's what you 83 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: were saying. Oh yea yea yea in Tennessee. That's crazy. 84 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: That's how crazy. 85 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: You got pressure by that ship. 86 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: Now letting that go. One of my homeboys got wooked 87 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: with the migos down there for real. That's when all 88 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: said jump off the Oh yeah that was down there. 89 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: Your partner, my my project. You know, you know how 90 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: your project. Yeah, I ain't got no beef with him 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: or nothing, But ain'ty a stocking nigga. That's what I said. 92 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: I said, must be a nigga who ain't really tripping? 93 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, ready to go? 94 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: You ready to go this? This nigga is stocked like. 95 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: He too, gus. I brought my hand on nigga. 96 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: What was his nick going though? 97 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: It was just man, we was young, nick were like 98 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen. Uh, you know we're coming into the city. 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's in the local nigga, Like I said, 100 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: coming to the city taking the hose and ship. So 101 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: we were forming, they just trying to stage and it 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: just turned to a big air bro and the whole 103 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: club got shut down. You know. 104 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: It was one of them nice. 105 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: Right, and they get you fucked up because you don't 106 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: really have you don't really pop their gangster talk. You Yeah, 107 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: but but you go player on. Yeah, but but see 108 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: went realni. 109 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: O what a player is? Yeah, they ain't going for 110 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: not going. Yeah, but some of the you know what 111 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, out do some ship, I ain't. You know 112 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I ain't talking and popping ship that 113 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: for what? 114 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: Right? Right right? Some people would think because you're a rapper, 115 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: that's part. 116 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Of donna get a twisted yeah up anytime? 117 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: Any where are you from around here? 118 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I was born in Milwaukee, Okay saying midway shout out 119 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: to the mill, but grew up on the North side, Maria. 120 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, cod kind of shit. But 121 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: I've been all around this shit, east side, side, south side. 122 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: I've been all over this ship. But I've been here 123 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: my whole life. 124 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: Right when you first started with the rap. Shit, how 125 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: old were you? Mmm? 126 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: What ninth grade is probably like fourteen, thirteen fourteen? 127 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: What is like fourteen? What about fifteen fourteen? 128 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as far as like I'm trying to I'm 129 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: trying to rap, you know what I'm saying. They always 130 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: had like little carriyoga machine. I always did like a 131 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: little ship around the house. But actually being in a 132 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: group like thirteen fourteen, right. 133 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: I I was looking over your catalog earlier. And for 134 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: those who don't know, you know, welcome to us up 135 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: there podcast. Y'all know how we do. You know what 136 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: I'm saying. We got the legendary k Camp for sure 137 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: here today. Man, you know what I'm saying. Everybody can't 138 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: come on the platform on Jesus Christ. My list long, 139 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: this is on Jesus Christ. But if I a nigga 140 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: with it, man, and I wanted to bring you on, 141 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: you know, to talk about what you've done. And also 142 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: I think you have a influence on the sound that 143 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: Drake does and I want to talk about that maybe 144 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: a little later in the show, but you know, I 145 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: just want to kind of tell you man, like I'm 146 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 4: proud that you were able to survive two or three 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: eerrors of this shit. You know what I'm saying, because man, 148 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: what especially with machine exactly, and they don't change the 149 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: whole business. God, you was one of the first ones. 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: I was telling the homeboy with the TikTok movement thing, right, 151 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: and yours was very organic. Now they've took that system 152 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: that you utilize and put a price tag on God 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: on God. So now there's no more organic push to 154 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: get your music in a position of what people say, 155 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: now we gonna create the dance like they're paying people 156 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 4: to create the dance, right. Talk to me about going 157 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: through that. 158 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Ship. Really it was. Man, It's like it's like one 159 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of those things, but that ship, it was unexpected. It's 160 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: one of It's like a God gift, you know what 161 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And nobody knew what TikTok was. I wasn't 162 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: on tik Tok. I just got on tip top probably 163 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: last year, year and a half ago. You know what 164 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying that three four years, you know what I'm saying. 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I can't really explain it. It was just, you know 166 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The girl, if I if I do 167 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the whole backstory of how that ship just really happened it. 168 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: It didn't start with TikTok. TikTok just was in the 169 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: way of the ship took it, and it took it 170 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: to a whole different thing. And Tik Tok was a 171 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: new platform and right familiar with it, so it took 172 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: it to a whole new level. But I just feel 173 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: like that was God, you know what I'm saying. And 174 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like personally, I ain't 175 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: really get what I was supposed to get from breaking 176 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: that platform. Like I'm never you know what I'm saying, 177 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I broke that Marble. It wouldn't be no Tik Tok 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: and all this dance shit if it wasn't for me 179 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: in Jolay, you know what I'm saying. Of course, all 180 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: the influences that play the partner ship, but you showed. 181 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: The record business that it was liowerful. Yeah, it was 182 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: a powerful tool for the record business. Now, when you 183 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: say you didn't get what you deserve, what was the 184 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: business behind that record? Was it someone else is in 185 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: a partnership. 186 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: Or like, now, you know what I'm saying. 187 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I was still signed Interscope at the time, but we 188 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: had a partnership with Empire. Shot the Gazi because at 189 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the time that we really you know what I'm saying 190 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: talking real like, in Scope wasn't doing shit for me 191 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: at that time, right, you know, so we had to 192 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Really I've been I just got independent probably what twenty two. 193 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: I really been moving independent for the last five to 194 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: ten years, you know what I'm saying, right. 195 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: But you was you but I'm signed to it. L 196 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: This is what I want people to understand. Music artists 197 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: and also people that want to get in the game. 198 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: You will be in a situation where you'll get signed. 199 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: These record labels will not participate in investment, but they'll 200 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: participate in profit and the winners for sure. Yeah, and 201 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: that's the situation. You explained what happened. 202 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, in the Scope 203 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: wasn't really doing what they was supposed to be in 204 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: my mind at the you know, when I first got signed, 205 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: everything was grave. You know how that ship go, right, 206 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: they going they gonna roll out the red cop before 207 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, shot of the Ennerscope. I 208 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: ain't even got no bad blood with these niggas, right, 209 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: all that I got and I understood what this business is. 210 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: It kind of clicked in my head like okay, cool, 211 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I get it. So it ain't no bad blood in 212 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the scope. But they wasn't doing what they were supposed 213 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: to be doing in the empire. Stepped then, and you know, 214 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: we hit the ground running as far as like the marketing, 215 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: just trying to get a song out. When I recorded 216 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: the song, I was on tour and I and I 217 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: and I sent it to like probably like twenty of 218 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: my you know what I'm saying, influencial partners like in 219 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: the Bed and the Nigga A and RS and shit, 220 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and I knew it was something different because everybody responded 221 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: the same way, like, damn, this only sound Because I'm 222 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: used to putting out melodic ship, you know what I'm saying. 223 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: They like, oh, you came a whole different weight. And 224 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: it was it was at the time where the baby 225 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: was going crazy, so the heavy eight o weights, yes, 226 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: was in you know what I'm saying. And when dog 227 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: Rezony played the beat, I was like, Oh, that's that's 228 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: what's going on. Let me, let me, let me drop 229 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: some flavor on that ship and ended up taking out. 230 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: But you know, as far as like the payout and 231 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: all that shit, that happened with that record. I just 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: feel like the business wasn't the being, the structure, wasn't 233 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: he in all the way locked in TikTok at that time. 234 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's you know what I'm saying, Yes, because 235 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: after me, when you're doing on t rich off TikTok, 236 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, everybody don't get rich. 237 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't get me wrong, but I just feel like. 238 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: When I did, someone in your situation that had an 239 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: infrastructure could get rich at this time. But but you 240 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: gotta remember this was before TikTok had to deal even 241 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: with the recordabel. Record labels told early right record. But 242 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: there's a scenario now in the business where you pay 243 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: with your eyeballs. So the views are still a form 244 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: of transaction from your fans, right, it ain't. It ain't money, 245 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: but your job is to turn it into money. But 246 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: the record labels threatening the seu TikTok, right, because I 247 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: think you and a couple of other artists were some 248 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: of the ones. They were like, hey man liked g University. 249 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So what was it like when you first 250 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: signed the end the scope? 251 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Like, what was that like when I first signed the nscope? 252 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, but that was my dream label 253 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: to get signed to, you know what I'm saying. Because 254 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: when I seen fifty in eminem and Dre and all that, 255 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: like the biggest that was in the game, they was 256 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: all signed in the Scope. So she as a young 257 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: nick coming up like she, I want to get signed 258 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: with the biggest is at you know what I'm saying. 259 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: So when I got signed, everything was sweet, you know 260 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Already had the streets on fire before 261 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I signed and made a deal independently. I had money 262 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: baby going, I had cut her off going. I had 263 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: uh shit before I even got them records going. I 264 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: had a record all night that was going in the city, 265 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: in the Chicken Market and Chicken cir circuit. I had 266 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: do it with Michael Mantanner, Like I already had stains 267 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 1: as far as a new artist coming in with he 268 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: got records right, So when in the Scope came in, 269 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: I was already on fire, you feel me. So all 270 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: they did was just you know, do the machine shit 271 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: add more fuel to the fire, making videos look. 272 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: Ten time better than ones we were shooting, you know, 273 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: switch and you know what I'm saying. 274 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: The whole thing. 275 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: Photo shoots the whole thing. May can you look like 276 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: a static artists? 277 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: You feel me? 278 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: So that was the benefit of it. And that was 279 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: the first time I ever felt some shit like that, like, Okay, cool, 280 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: I got somebody actually trying to turn my ship up. 281 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: But we was doing all the work. Of course, you 282 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like I don't expect them to 283 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: do the work. We're gonna do the work. But it 284 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: was cool. But you know what I'm saying, that ship, 285 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: that ship, you know, people changing the building. The niggas 286 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: signed me shout out the tune. You know what I'm 287 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: saying over there, that jam tune of your goat the 288 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: sign me got fired. So I'm in a new situation. 289 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: And who got themn believed in me that brought me in. 290 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: He gone. 291 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: So now some new n you know, you know how, 292 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 4: And that's something that people don't know. 293 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of artists. 294 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: They don't know. 295 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, that's one of the key things in 296 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: the building when you go in with a team. And 297 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: like I said in the beginning, it should a business. 298 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: So the nigga who hired them, niggas they don't want them. 299 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: They on they roster no more. They gonna get rid 300 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: of them. Now you gotta you gotta you know what 301 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, You gotta deal with a nigga who really 302 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: ain't see the vision right and so convinced the niggas exactly. 303 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: So so what happens is, uh, there's a green light press. 304 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: It's for people who don't know, like you got to 305 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: get budgets, green lid ideas, green lid songs, green lid. 306 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: Even though you recording music, working hard, there's still another process. 307 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: There's red tape and boundaries that you can only go 308 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: so far without signatures and certain things from inside the building. 309 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: So the people that will bring you in, that believe 310 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: in you, will go into that marketing meeting and fight 311 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: for you, going to that radio meeting and fight for you. 312 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: When you no longer have nobody fighting for you, now 313 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: you start not to look like an asset, You start 314 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: to look like a liability. When did you feel that 315 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: change with them though? Because you came in on fire, 316 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: When did you feel like, all right, the money baby 317 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: to cut the off? Is they weighing off? They kind 318 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: of feeling like. 319 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: I felt that you can turn that air down? 320 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 321 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: You cold? He got right under the joint. Just cut 322 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: it up just wherever you cut it up to. 323 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: I'm trying to talk to you. 324 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it up brother. 325 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: When I felt that changed? 326 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: When when when shi it was switching as far as 327 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: with Interscope or yep, Yeah, because it was it was 328 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: two parts to it. 329 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I didn't talk about this 330 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: ship so many times. 331 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: I gotta talk about it. 332 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 333 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: It's like to it. 334 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: It was. 335 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: It was one of them things where it was it 336 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: was my management. You know what I'm saying. 337 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: They pulled a move that rubbed a lot of people 338 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: the wrong way. 339 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was It was a 340 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: it was an event. 341 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: I had dropped the album. 342 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: We had an event, you know what I'm saying. At 343 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: this time twenty one twenty two, around that eight. 344 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We didn't really me personally. 345 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I didn't give a fuck the business. I just wanted 346 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: to make music, party for those and just be on 347 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just rapper shit. You know 348 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: mostly you feel me. So it was a situation where 349 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: we had this event that this a little you know 350 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying all. 351 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: The taste makers. 352 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Taste makers came out DJ's select. 353 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 354 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And we on stage. 355 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We we we having a 356 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: good time. My manager gave me. He whispered my ear like, hey, 357 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: you gotta get out to eat plaque. You know what 358 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I hate talking about this shit because we 359 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: all know I'm past this ship. 360 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 361 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I done got cool with the with the with the 362 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: now we everything, We swept everything on the rub. I 363 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: just tapped into it real quick because that's how everything. 364 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: It's the business, bro Like, it's part of your story too. 365 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: And I want to know if you healed from that ship, 366 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: because it's a lot going through that ship as a 367 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: young Hey, i'd have made it. I don't got signed 368 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: the inna pull. 369 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: A move and I know what I'm saying, pull the rug. 370 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: From So he pulled a move. You supposed to give 371 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: out a plaque. 372 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: It was it was like three or four plaques here. 373 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Just imagine me being on 374 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: the stage there's none but DJ number. 375 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying. 376 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Whatever he say, ship, get buy the play. He say, 377 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at the platt name like DJ, 378 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: come get your plack. You know, I'm not knowing what's 379 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: really going on. I'm just got them. Hey, come get 380 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: your plat you know what I'm saying. And the night 381 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: went smooth. Everything was cool. Probably like two three days later, 382 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the studio. 383 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: What the plaques for? Though? 384 00:15:59,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Man? 385 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: It was just recognition appreciation. Now are you saying? 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You know what I'm saying. 411 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Whatever he say, shit, get by the play he say. 412 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at the plat. Ain't like DJ. 413 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Come get your plat. You know I'm not knowing what's 414 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: really going on. I'm just got them a come get 415 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: your plat. You know what I'm saying. 416 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: And the night went smooth. 417 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: Everything was cool. Probably like two three days later, I'm 418 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: in the studio. 419 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: What the plaques for? Though? 420 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Man? 421 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: It was just congrect recognition appreciation type Now are you saying? 422 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: He got a room full of DJs and he's singling 423 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: out certain you know what I'm saying. So he's separating me, 424 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: He's pardon the ce. 425 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: He making was fill away right, you know what I'm saying. 426 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: It could be this said man, I played this record 427 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: X amount of times. Yeah, and it's so you know 428 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Of course it's going you know what 429 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, roughal a few feathers and shit. So this 430 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: like two three days later, Bro, I'm in the studio, 431 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: like I'm always here in the studio. One of my 432 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: partners that worked at the radio station just text me 433 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: randomly like, Hey, I'm at the radio station and it 434 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: ain't looking good for you right now. Like what you're 435 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: talking about here Like a lot of niggas, you know 436 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, feeling some type of way about these plaques. 437 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: And I was like plaque and out here, I'm like 438 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: what plaques you're talking about? And I'm like, I know 439 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: you ain't talking about the plexue from the event. So 440 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: it ended up being that situation that kind of like 441 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: had everybody talking. You know what I'm saying, Like, oh, 442 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like damn he he ain't 443 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: shown over, you know it was. It was just one 444 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: of those things that it spread fast, you feel, because 445 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: at the time I was I was I was hot, 446 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Of course, phill a way, 447 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 448 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: But you also got to know, you know, me being 449 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: on the outside. They worked out of the wreck now 450 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: DJs and shit show. 451 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: They came up with the DJs. 452 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: That's how I came, you know what I'm saying, Like 453 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand niggas for I Pop. I was in 454 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: the club thirteen fourteen years old when I when I 455 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: was able to get a little change, nigga, you want 456 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: to drink like you know what I'm saying. We came 457 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: up with the DJ A lot of the DJs that's 458 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: popping out the lbr N. The two days of all 459 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: these niggas, niggas in the club with young Nick. 460 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 461 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Outside six seven days a week, we was outside, So 462 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm knowing it already, you know what I'm saying. Of Course, 463 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: some new nicks in the city and new DJ you 464 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and you get to meet them. 465 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: But so it was a thing where that situation happened. 466 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: And mind you, bro, Like when I say we was outside, 467 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I was outside. Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like 468 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: that's how we got on outside fig ates so zero underground. 469 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: It don't matter what club, east side, west side, like 470 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: a vouch nigga. I'm saying like we was outside every club. 471 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: Just just imagine having that incident happened, and then you're 472 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: still outside the niggas and you dapping it and they 473 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: like they feeling the way, but you like, damn, like, yeah, 474 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: what's up? 475 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 476 00:19:59,840 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: You? 477 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: I I known you before the plaques. I know you 478 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: five six, seven years, Like you know what I'm saying. 479 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: Now, hold up before did this hear you about the plaques? Did? 480 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: I never knew before the night happy you didn't even know. 481 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: You just went with the move because you. 482 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: Were working, coming to the club drunk already like he 483 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: so he got the plaques made, he got the plax made. 484 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: So I'm just you know what I'm saying. 485 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the shape like, hey, pass, he's out cool. 486 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: Pass because you think you're doing something good. 487 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing something good. Backfired on me so fasty son 488 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and it was one of them things that I felt 489 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: like I felt played because one, I ain't no shit 490 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: about it, you know what I'm saying. I ain't going 491 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: with the intention like I'm about to pass these I 492 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: just right, nig I just went in like ship this ship. 493 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I just felt like like damn, like 494 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: I've been long and just showing love so long, Like damn. 495 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: It was the one little incident got everybody looking at 496 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: me like I did the worst ship in the world. 497 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: So that's when I got damn, you know what I'm saying. 498 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: Past my ship up and I moved to l A. 499 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling the vibe in the city, you know 500 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: what I'm say. 501 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 4: And I was just like, you know what, And it's 502 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: hard fighting against it. 503 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: It's hard fighting against it. 504 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: But once everybody against you're like you ain't no really, 505 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: ain't no, ain't no trying to you know what I'm saying. 506 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 4: That what going going through? See everybody against some more. 507 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: That's it's a real thing till you clean it up. 508 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: It took me like three three years to clean it up. 509 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: And then you moved to La. What happened though? When 510 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: I moved to La, Yeah, so so Okay, so the 511 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 4: dude call you from the radio. You you continue to 512 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: be outside. You starting to understand that ain't love, ain't 513 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: the same. 514 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Wasn't the same I felt, But I got to keep 515 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, to keep moving, you know what 516 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like shit, you know what 517 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying talking to my boy, was like, man, let 518 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: you go to l A and just, you know what 519 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, vibe out and see what's going on out there. 520 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: So we just went out to LA. Was there for 521 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: a year and a half. 522 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 4: We just what records are you making at this time? 523 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: This went? 524 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it's right after Comfortable and Ship, you know 525 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Co Comfortable came about like fifteen. 526 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: That's one of the ones though. 527 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we went to l A. Like I don't 528 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: want to get dates because I remember we came back 529 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: to A none of we went like sixteen into sixteen seven, 530 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we was. We was 531 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: out there, but it was one of them things like 532 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot of nigg know when you go to LA, 533 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: it's a bunch of smoking mirrors. 534 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: You feel me like you might think some shit lick, 535 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: but it ain't shit lit like you. 536 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: To be honest, we went out there. We were just 537 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I was just sucking it up. 538 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 539 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm rising big ass cribs. I got the whole gang 540 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: with me. Were throwing party. We got kicked out this spot. 541 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: We go to another spot, we get kicked out that 542 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We just living like. We 543 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: didn't work hard, We didn't hit the road, were beating 544 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: the road up four, five, six times a week like 545 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: nigga go enjoyed the shit that we didn't when we didn't, 546 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: we already ran this shit up. 547 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: Let's go just you know what I'm saying, kick it. 548 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: But being out there it made me realize because we 549 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: was out like I said, we was out there for a. 550 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: Year and a half. 551 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, like we might be losing momentum 552 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: in the city because we started this shit in the city, right, 553 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. This Around the time like 554 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: twenty one came out. Who else was popping at the time. 555 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: It was really in my head. 556 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: When I think about it, twenty one was only in 557 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: my head. 558 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: It took because it was crazy. He just shoot crazy. 559 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: Because I had had the song with twenty one before 560 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: he popped, cause Sonny was working with twenty one. First 561 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: twenty one had a song called I Got One Foot In, 562 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: One Foot Out, and I did a remix. We never 563 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: put it out. This is before twenty one became twenty one. 564 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: So when I went to l A and I was like, 565 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: but that crazy super So he went crazy and I 566 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool and like I'm a smartness when 567 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: it comes to this, like the game, Like I'm a 568 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: student of this ship. So I studied this ship. Understand 569 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: how much I studied the game. When he came out 570 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: and I heard the sound, I was like, oh, this 571 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: ship a boy. The shift because I came out just melodic. 572 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm talking to the streets, I'm talking 573 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: to the whole. But my sound was different. When twenty 574 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: one came. It was straight raw. 575 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 576 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: You feel me all? Oh that the sound changed because 577 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: I know I've been I've been in a land of 578 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: my whole life, Like I didn't seen every sound come 579 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: through that when it comes, if you ain't, if you 580 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: ain't got lot just they added to the algorithm, You're gone, 581 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: You're gone. 582 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: Your sound is washed. 583 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: Seven is definitely added to the algorithm, and he and 584 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: he added it in a way where unlike some of 585 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: the melodic styles you can't really copy that. 586 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: You can't copy. 587 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 4: It was just him. 588 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: It was just Roth. You know what I'm saying. 589 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: You can hear it was rough, you know what I'm saying. 590 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: And like I said, when the sound changed the city, like, 591 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: you can expect that to be the sound for the 592 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: next three four years, you know what I'm saying, till 593 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: something else coming around. 594 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: So I was like, you think you're losing momentally, know 595 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 596 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, okay, cool, Like it's changing. So we 597 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: was out there for a couple more months and me 598 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: and my dog, like we got to keep out of 599 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: the three cribs. Bro it got what you're doing with 600 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: your party. We just turned vibes out there smoking five man, 601 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie them. It was a good ad times. Yeah, yeah, 602 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I had a great time, you know what I'm saying. 603 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: I was burning through bread. 604 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: Money on them houses out there. I remember one time 605 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: I was with qcp uh there yeah them nigga. You know, 606 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: we was in the crib and the creer probably was 607 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: worth I don't know thirty me movie five movie. I 608 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 4: know I'm in that, and I say to myself, how 609 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: much I wonder how much they paying a month for 610 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: this bitch? 611 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: You know I was paying That's what I'm finishing as 612 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm paying fifteen thousand a month, Lord have mercy. 613 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: It was on lyric, you know what I'm saying. 614 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I tried a project called Liar add the street was 615 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: called lear adding two highs down was walked in the 616 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: So I was feeling myself, like, shit, fifteen k a month? 617 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: How many people was living in there? If you got 618 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: the whole label living in there, it might be worth 619 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: it because you got to get your tail feed. 620 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: It's efficient. Yeah, but sh it still was slowing up though. Yeah, 621 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 622 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: But how do you know? You how did you know 623 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: you was losing momentum just because the sound changed? 624 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: Or was the sound changing? 625 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You as an artist, brother, 626 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: you know you know what ship changed? When when the 627 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: cars starts slowing up? When you when you when you 628 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: got a certain price, offer you a different price, right, 629 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: We're like, hold on, like talking about it. It's the price, 630 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: and you're like, what's something you know how that shit go? 631 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like we've been running these 632 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: markets forever, like you know how that shit go. So, 633 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm a students, So I was like, okay, cool, 634 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: something something changing. And then we don't get back to 635 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: the city quick. We washed you know what I'm saying 636 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: that and asked my dog Jeans we uh the last 637 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: crib we was in we was in Malleable. I don't 638 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: want to feel I think it was invallenable. We had 639 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: like a little beach house. Last little house we stayed in, 640 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: and by that time everybody we had an original house everything, 641 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: everybody started fading off. 642 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: So it went from like. 643 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Seven in one house, about five next house. By the 644 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: time we got to the third, I was like three nicks, 645 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: my security and my DJ. 646 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 647 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Last house, right, we was like start getting you know 648 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We were like, hey, we got to 649 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: go back to the city. Yeah, and it's around I 650 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: think like twenty seventeen eighteen. So I found your crib 651 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: in the city, like same shit, same a glasshouse. I 652 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: think uh jj Hickson was his old crib. Yes, Buckhead, 653 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: It was a Buckhead player, you know, what I'm saying. 654 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Everybody know about robin Hood. Yeah, you know about robin Hood. 655 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: So we was in robin Hood, you know what I'm saying. 656 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: And ship we were just trying to you know what 657 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying, figure this. 658 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: How much was that a month? 659 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Robinhood was probably like. 660 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: That's cool. 661 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: I was still going. 662 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: But one thing about me, like I didn't even look 663 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: at it as I just wanted to create memories. 664 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. And also as an artist, you 665 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: need experience, and. 666 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: You need experiences something something that got damn talking about 667 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: from Yeah we came to come back, go to all 668 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: little one bed apartments and be like, I'm not. 669 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: Just saying it was gonna sound like some bullshit right, 670 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: Like we were just talking about Kanye. That's why envy 671 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: his ability to like understand, I'm going to Japan for 672 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: this album. I'm not here flying me. I don't know. 673 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: This is a whole different culture, but it's stimulated. 674 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: Like that's one thing I love about Kanye. How you 675 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: just take the vibe anywhere. We got the money to 676 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: take the ship anyway. 677 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: That ship is not even more important than when I 678 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: say envy meaning that my personality won't allow me to 679 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 4: embrace that in the same way, but not even more 680 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: important than the money that he has the influence to 681 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: do it, because you can't call Casannett and tell them 682 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: to fly to Japan for a stream god like Nick 683 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: be like, yo, bro, I'm not coming to not doing 684 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: you know, but yay got the influence is money that 685 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 4: don't have the influence. But you come back, Let's get 686 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: back to your story because this is interesting as fun. 687 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: So you come back, you get their house, and y'all 688 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: get back the creating by first thing. 689 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So I skipped the important part about La the 690 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: last crib. Crib I took like I say, about two 691 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: three weeks, bro, because at the time, we was called 692 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: ourselves slumps. 693 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: We were slum little, remember, because I had slum anthem. 694 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 695 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I was um. Everybody and the crew had a slump something, 696 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when we were doing 697 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: that ship, like the meaning behind slum we were just 698 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: wasn't just drunk, just turn you know what I'm saying. 699 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, half niggas came from you 700 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the bottom. So we just like 701 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, slum lord. 702 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: You feel me. 703 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: That shit got so watered down because everybody started, you 704 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: know that was around, just start claiming it and it 705 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: just became like so I say, say, for example, so 706 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: it just affiliated claiming slum and he do some bullshit, 707 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: and that's making us look crazy, you know what I'm saying. 708 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: And it was getting too it was getting too sloppy. 709 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: So I told my business partner. 710 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, it's my djail at the time, 711 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: like bro, we gotta change the brand, like we gotta 712 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: disconnect and do something else. So I took like two 713 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: or three weeks that I was just on dictionary dot com, 714 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: like the saws and shit, trying to figure out a 715 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: name that represented me how I felt, you know what 716 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying at that time, and I'm just going through things. 717 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: I asked my partner like about they like, ah, so 718 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: after you know what I'm saying, research and research and researching, 719 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: I found the name Rare, you know what I'm saying, 720 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: r A R E. 721 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: I was like, shit, that kind of described me. You 722 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 723 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't be on that sh gonna be on board shot, 724 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: stay in my lane. I do my music, you know 725 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I I stand on my business. 726 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I don't. 727 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: It's just I just felt like I was rare individual. 728 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: So we took that. Then we moved back to Atlanta 729 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: and I locked in at seven hundred Studios on Maria 730 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: of the Street with Naught and B and my dogs, 731 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we we we locked 732 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: in for like a month some change, and we did 733 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the first rare project. 734 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: I named that Rare. 735 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: That's my first got back to Atlanta and it had 736 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: like you know what, it had some bots on that, 737 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a That's when 738 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: the mixtape game was still going. So we put that 739 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: as a mixtape and ever since then and around that time, 740 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: that's when my momental was kind of you know what 741 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I don't know, like you got the underground, 742 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: you got mainstream. You can be popping underground and think 743 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying, Well, I ain't gonna 744 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: say think, because if you popping underground, you got motion, 745 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: but mainstream of underground two different worlds. Like you got 746 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: you got your you got your average every day Soccer 747 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: Moms nine to five that's gonna get in the car 748 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: in the morning, play the radio and hear uh megan 749 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: a Stallum, like that's the biggest artist in the world. 750 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 751 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get on the line of the mixtape 752 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: sits and be like, Oh this nigga like an NBA, 753 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: a young boy that came out the mixtape. 754 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: They're not gonna be like, oh this nigga lick. They're 755 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: not gonna see it. You know what I'm saying. 756 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: They won't even compare break or exactly. You feel me. 757 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: So we was fighting that battle because between that time 758 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: it was Apple Music. Then you had the Live mixtape, 759 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: you had that Piff, you had Spin Reeler, you had 760 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: all them underground sits. So we were dropping on the 761 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: underground site because at the time in the scope we 762 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: wasn't seeing so they wasn't really but. 763 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: They ain't try to stop your contracts, stop you from dropping. 764 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting paid from the ship though mixtapes. You 765 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You don't. You wouldn't get paid. 766 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: You wasn't even getting the upfront bags from Live mixtaipship 767 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: they were giving. Yeah, but I. 768 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Ain't get none of you. 769 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: Were just dropping just to try to keep the momentum. 770 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: I was dropping to feed my fans. I was dropping 771 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: to keep this ship going. 772 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 773 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I knew I had a fan base, you know what 774 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that was building. I was just trying to 775 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: keep my name relevant. 776 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: How many years you go not making no money? 777 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: That wasn't like two or three years, bro, I wont 778 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: like two or three because it was a situation where, man, 779 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: this ship is so deep. My story, my mama telling 780 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: me that I put up on my mom and to 781 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: day she was like, you need you need to drop 782 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: a movie, a documentary and let and let these folks 783 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: know like my ship. 784 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: So the way. 785 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: The ship that I went through. 786 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: Any other would have been lights out, cut the lights out, 787 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: the niggas over with, you know. 788 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 789 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: But the type of Niam I couldn't go out like that, 790 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't even make like 791 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm cut from a whole different clock, like like I can't. 792 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't see myself just falling off. Now I'm used 793 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: to be used to like you know what I'm saying, 794 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: Like he used to be this easy to do that. 795 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: It's easy to do a lot of give up on that. 796 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: Everybody think about all the mother niggas out when you 797 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: cut that. 798 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I know plenty you know what work looking for a 799 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: fork lift, putting on for show, for sure. 800 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 801 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: But I'm I ain't made like that, bro, Like that 802 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't in my in my in my in 803 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: my story. Bro, And you actually got talent though you 804 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted to one. 805 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: But you know what, it's so messed up. This industry 806 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 4: is so messed up to where you can have talent 807 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: instilled that I remember talking to rich on me Korn 808 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: before you pass r I P d Hume. Well he 809 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: I would tell him how frustrating is it for your 810 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: ability to rap not to change. You can steal rap, 811 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: you can still catch the beat, catch the melody, but 812 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: it just ain't reacting. 813 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could tell you it's a few things me 814 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: being in this game. And you know what I'm saying 815 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: present day, how much I know now how much I 816 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: knew then? Like you said, you can be as talented 817 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: as a mother what a thousand thousand artists as talented 818 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: as a motherfucker, don't get no money, can't get no. 819 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It ain't about just tenant. 820 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: First. 821 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: Hard work beat talant any day. 822 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: That's the fact. 823 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Hard work beat talent in that you can be you 824 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: can be the nicest nigga. You ain't putting that work 825 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: in and and networking your way through the through these streets. 826 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: The worst club, like been through the worst club. The 827 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: best clubs is the worst club, the hoodies club. 828 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 829 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I didn't did every You can't take none of that 830 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: from me because I didn't went through every step of 831 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: this ship. 832 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: You feel me. 833 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: So it's the hard work and and and the next 834 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: thing is. 835 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I say this all the time that this is some 836 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: ship I didn't know at the time. It's the business 837 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: that's I really. 838 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: Want to put that ship number one, right. You know 839 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 840 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: I really want to put business number one because one 841 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: thing I didn't know is the business. 842 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: Like I went on. 843 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 1: God, I went about two or three years without checking 844 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: my bank account, bro because I you know what I'm saying, 845 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: because my mama was handling my finances and I had 846 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the mindset like shit if I swiped. 847 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: Them off and it worked, cool. You know what I'm saying, 848 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: it's kind of how. That's kind of how Nigga is 849 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 4: man Like. 850 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but that's that's that just somebody 851 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: got to start. 852 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: Why why why were you like that? Because I was. 853 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: Getting so much money. 854 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: I was, god damn getting I'm having cash. I'm having 855 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, if I know I 856 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: got cash on me, this cash ain't gonna got them 857 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: to client. You know what I'm saying. The ship gonna 858 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: go through. So the car was second option. So if 859 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm got damn blowing through the cash and I know 860 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: I ain't took my car, know some money on it. 861 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, There's some money on the car. 862 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: So that's how it was. 863 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 3: Just I was going to buy it, just like ship, 864 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: and I wasn't. You know what I'm saying. 865 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: One thing about me, Thank God, I ain't really money. 866 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: Like the only time my money up, I wouldn't even 867 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: say like I said, I create memories. But the cribs 868 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: and Ship was. 869 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 4: Like the most unpacking a lot, So I gotta I 870 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: gotta bag use up. I know they watching said loom 871 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: just they unpacking so much. We gotta bag up and 872 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: really get to some U. Let's let's get back to 873 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: you didn't make any money for two or three years, 874 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 4: and and your mom was saying, man, you need to 875 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: write a documentary. How did you survive two or three 876 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 4: years without making no money? Do you own your home? 877 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 4: Do you own all this ship? You ain't got a 878 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 4: lot of bills. 879 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: I ain't had no I was living out the condos, 880 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I said, I made, 881 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I made some money, but I probably made like honestly, 882 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how much. 883 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: What's the biggest check you done seen? Have you seen 884 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: a bad move like the ender scope breaking off at 885 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 4: least once? 886 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Or do? 887 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: Have you got your shit and increments? 888 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Like what's the big I used to get quarterly checks 889 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: after I dropped an album. That was but that was 890 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: after I got damned recoup not yeah, that too, but 891 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: that was after Like you know what I'm saying, I 892 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: had a whole litigation of my old management, Like I 893 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: had hired lawyers. It took about six seven months, eight 894 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: months to get you know what I'm saying, get this 895 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: my shit? You know what? It was a lot that 896 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: went on because he was taking majority of my private, 897 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it was a lot 898 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: that went on during that time. 899 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. Though, how much money have 900 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: you made because. 901 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: You just told my life probably during that time, probably 902 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say about three that's some good money, 903 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I probably made like three million. Yeah, 904 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: And at the time, like I said, I went the 905 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: most expensive thing I bought bro was. 906 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: My Porsche, my sprinter. 907 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: In the cribs. I wasn't just you know what I'm saying, Okay, 908 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: go to strip club. You know what I'm saying, go 909 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: to the club and ship like that. 910 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: Was we always in the ahead of. 911 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: Time everything you're getting a check from performer with you 912 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: just going out for leisure and ship sections, ship like that. 913 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't really my money up, you know what 914 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'd buy clothes. 915 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 916 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: I had stylus, you know what I'm saying. 917 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: It was just I wasn't just forty thousand then feet 918 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: thousand night like if I did that out been wiped 919 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: out a long time ago. 920 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 921 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: I was already decent with money because I before I 922 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: even got the money. I always fuck my money. I'm 923 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: always telling me like, damn you smoking cracker somethody. 924 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: You always like, you know what I'm saying. 925 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: And this when I ain't have money, like when I 926 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: had the eb T car, my dad's picked child's pointing. 927 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: I just get forty dollars every every Monday, and I'm 928 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: I'm Chick fil Ay down, like you know what I'm saying. 929 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: First I was the dollar men McDonald, I got the car. 930 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm chick fil a like who went up? 931 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 4: Want to sound? You know what I'm saying. 932 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm on that type of time. So I was, and 933 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: I learned early as far was like, okay, money ship 934 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: you don't you know what I'm saying. If you, if you, 935 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: if you, if you spend it wrong, it's hard to 936 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: get it back. It's hard to get it back. 937 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 4: But do you know that that two years right? So 938 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: so the two years that you went dropping music and 939 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 4: not making money, they were posed to break a niggas 940 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 4: yost a career post to die, that's what. 941 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: Nia You know what I'm saying, expected me to break, 942 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I just feel like 943 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I had a strong support. 944 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 4: Did you save your money or did people step in 945 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 4: and hip you like how do? It was just. 946 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: God bro? 947 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: It was God Bro. It was just it was just 948 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 3: having faith. Like a lot of nig I was over with, 949 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 3: but I didn't think that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 950 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: I really had strong faith. 951 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Like man, they don't know what I'm about to do next, 952 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my ship, my business 953 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: was all but internally I knew I still had this ship. 954 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 4: That's what's supposed to break a nick down the business 955 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: up the moment, I'm slowing down all this ship together 956 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: post a baker cake for nig But I. 957 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Can't see myself not doing this ship. You know what 958 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like this is my lifestyle, this is my life, 959 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Like music was my life. I came from this ship 960 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: like first it was basketball, you know what I'm saying 961 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: that the end of twelfth grade, but music was my 962 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: I just felt like that was my ship. So how 963 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: I look doing all this making all you know on 964 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: TV wants his part Grandma? I seeing me taking my 965 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: grandma Wendy Williams do and all this ship people my grandma, 966 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And all of a sudden 967 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: lights Like I said, lights out, How things gonna look 968 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: at me? I was like, hell no, Like I ain't 969 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: going out like that. 970 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 4: So that's what drugs that. Really, they pulled the book, 971 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: you know, niggas bro embarrassment and person and Nick start 972 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: hading in the house. What he what he hoping there? 973 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 4: Just let him remember me when I was balling on God, 974 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 4: don't even let him see me like this. Then then 975 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 4: life gonna force you out. It's for you gotta go 976 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 4: make some money. 977 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Then they gonna see they gonna see you at the 978 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: wrong spot and se. 979 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: They gonna see you trying to get a job and 980 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: chill or something Hotel, Amazon, trying to embarrassing. Yeah, man, 981 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 4: but that's because you know, I don't think it's nothing 982 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 4: embarrassing about having to get a job, so right, I 983 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 4: think he understand that, like do what's necessary to feed 984 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 4: the family. 985 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: Music and she don't work out and they go get 986 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 3: a job. 987 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 4: Be working while they're doing to get to a place where. 988 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: Don't support like starving yourself, like just trying to just 989 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: go all out by some like take your dreams. You 990 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying hundred percent, but like don't go 991 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: out bad, just trying to like keep up the image. 992 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: Super bad for a nigga, or. 993 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: Give you on that one pair of jeans. Don't even 994 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 4: gonna get a job because they wrap I wrapped rappers 995 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 4: can't have a job. 996 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: Trust me, I know, I know it, bro, Like you 997 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I salut like you know what 998 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, this part time, it's a part time 999 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: the part time job. Do the music part time. That 1000 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: ship might be a lot, but if you really want 1001 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: the ship, you do it. You find a way to 1002 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: make it work. Why do you think that the DJs 1003 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: felt like they can draw a hard line against you 1004 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: like this because because there's other rapn to treat DJ's 1005 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: horrible and they don't give them that same Yeah, Vitri, y'all, Okay, 1006 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: answer the first one. It was at one point in 1007 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: the game where DJ's ran everything. DJ's ran everything for sure. Yeah, 1008 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: there's gate keepers, you know what I'm saying. It's still 1009 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: it's still like that today. But during when I was 1010 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: coming up, it was way more serious. 1011 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1012 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: You had the screens, dramas, the techniques like everybody. You know, 1013 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking on the land of DJs. You know 1014 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Nia was really fucked up, like the 1015 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: mixtape game, Like them niggas the ones, they're still the 1016 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: ones slipped to my dogs, screen drama, my dollars to today. 1017 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: But going to the second second ship the new Kniggs 1018 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: who don't give a fu. The DJs, they came up 1019 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: through a different era. They came up through the area 1020 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: with the DJs when it's poortant and most important is 1021 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: the internet and streaming in your phone, your phone and 1022 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: DJ like you break your break yourself through your phone. 1023 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: So they not really understanding like the power in any 1024 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: kind of the game that did. You know what I'm saying, 1025 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: It did this, you know what I'm saying, And right 1026 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: now it's a whole new landscape. Like I was blessed 1027 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: enough to even make it through from that side to 1028 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: the new side, right to the streaming era, you know 1029 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1030 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: It was like right after them, you know, you. 1031 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Like the cartoons and ship when 1032 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: having that. 1033 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 4: Little a little warp hole, Yeah yeah, yeah for sure 1034 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 4: like that, yeah, get through. 1035 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 3: It came up when I was coming dead. 1036 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: They trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying, 1037 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm still doing their things, still working trying to you 1038 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like sloping them, but that ships, it's. 1039 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 3: Ain't caught one, ain't caught one. You know what I'm saying. 1040 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 4: The business behind the song that went to Fortnite? Did 1041 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: you get paid from Fortnite? How? 1042 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? I got paid for my love the little you 1043 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It wasn't life changing ship, but 1044 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: it was you know what I'm saying. 1045 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: Is it worth? I mean, did you feel the fix? 1046 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 4: But I think there's something you know, they they've been 1047 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: able to get our artists. And this is what I 1048 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 4: don't respect about black culture, right, is that they'll do 1049 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: ship for the white person for the look, yeah, and 1050 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 4: then for the black person they're charging on in the 1051 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: leg to do something. You know what I'm saying. But 1052 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out, like did you feel the 1053 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 4: effects from being in Fortnite the children walk up on you? 1054 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: Or did you feel your profile get bigger? 1055 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Fortnite, but when the song came out, 1056 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, definitely, because because that song 1057 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: turned everything back up, it turned the lights back on. 1058 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 4: We were still working so you was you was dead 1059 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: until the end. 1060 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even call it dead, like you know what 1061 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1062 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Like I said the main three, the underground was underground, 1063 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: like mind you during that time, I'm still torn. I'm 1064 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: belding a fan base. Torn. 1065 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 4: I got that. 1066 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: I did probably like two three tours. 1067 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 4: Did the price change? 1068 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, price change as far as I ain't had no song. 1069 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: Got that why I'm gonna tell your crazy story. I 1070 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: remember I forgot who who put me down? Like cause 1071 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: I was doing club show only when I came out, 1072 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: I was in the clubs like I was a club artist, 1073 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 1074 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: And I was getting forty at night. 1075 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: Forty forty forty forty forty forty, get six six days 1076 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 1: a week, forty forty forty forty forty forty forty forty forty, 1077 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: to the point you could ask my mom. I was like, 1078 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: I need a break. I don't even want to do 1079 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 1: no shows. I know I was getting too more money. 1080 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't even want to do no shows, 1081 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1082 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: And I had spoke to somebody, damn, which I can 1083 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: remember who the was talking to, but it was torn 1084 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: Bro was there was a torn act. They was like, Bro, 1085 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: when when your song ain't hot no more, what you're 1086 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna do? You know what I'm saying, Like, you ain't 1087 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: about to get them forty it's gonna Yeah. That's say 1088 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: paper that said Brown bad Money, call that Brown bad Money. 1089 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: And at the time, I love that Brown Bad money. 1090 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1091 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: I came up through the clubs like I was like, 1092 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: nigga shit lick. 1093 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: So I mean one time, I know exactly where I 1094 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 3: was at. I was on Huff Road. 1095 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: That's when they had that X three. I was training 1096 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: with my mm a Pottery, like just doing it, just 1097 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: training and shit. And I called my mama and I said, hey, 1098 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I I don't think I yeah, I 1099 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: take one. 1100 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't. 1101 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 4: I don't wanna. 1102 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: I don't wanna do uh appreciate you. I don't wanna 1103 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 3: do uh clubs no more. 1104 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 4: She was like, what are you talking about? 1105 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Mama. You know what I'm saying, 1106 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: my booking age. So she getting a fee too, you 1107 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So sh I was like, I 1108 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: don't wanna do club no more. I wanna s I 1109 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: wanna sell tickets, and she was like, you know what 1110 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. She not really understanding that. She you know 1111 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Mama hustle too, Like she was like, man, 1112 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: what you mean? 1113 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? 1114 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 1: And I said, do not book me for no more shows? 1115 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: I wanna get on t I wanna sell tickets. I 1116 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: wanna build longevity, you know what I'm saying. And I 1117 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: went that route and that route was. 1118 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: Hard, my boy, hard dramatically, didn't it? 1119 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, drop liken them tours is so different, man, listen, 1120 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: man like them toys is especially like if you ain't 1121 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: got no s like base for real, like real fan base. 1122 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 4: So you made this decision without a record out boy 1123 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 4: you game? Were you still side with Interscope then? Do 1124 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 4: you think that in the scope pushed back on you. 1125 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 4: Were you making any moves that they were like what 1126 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 4: is he doing these bullshit? 1127 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: Or I never? I never What made deal with them? 1128 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: So what what made them stop with it? Was? 1129 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 1: It was it was my management, bro. You gotta understand, 1130 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: Like when I signed a deal, it was in the 1131 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: scope it was my management slash production company, and it 1132 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: was me when I fired my management, my management and 1133 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: my production coming did did a deal in the Scope. 1134 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: So just imagine me getting rid of my management, Like hey, 1135 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm calling in Scope, like hey, I. 1136 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 3: Ain't got the manage one one. What we're doing. 1137 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: They're like, we're not. 1138 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 3: Doing betting with you, We're doing business with them. 1139 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 4: Is it because of the paperwork? 1140 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 3: His paperwork contract? 1141 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 4: So they wouldn't go around not budgeting. 1142 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: They wasn't budgeting for me. You know what I'm saying. 1143 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: If he so, I couldn't make no move. My hands 1144 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: was tied. 1145 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying. 1146 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: When it came to drop an out of anything, because 1147 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: I was in the whole litigation with Bruh, I couldn't ship. 1148 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: So we were like, okay, we're gonnajail. 1149 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna just sit here and burn out, or we're 1150 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: gonna god damn find a way to keep this ship going. 1151 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: So we went underground, we went live mistakes, we went 1152 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: all the underground site, We got them hitting the roll, 1153 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: we torn. We're trying to build something up to get 1154 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: this ship back to where it needs to be. And 1155 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So you. 1156 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 4: Do the tour thing you tell moms do the tour thing. 1157 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 4: Did you go on to immediately or I like, you 1158 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 1159 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: After You know what I'm saying. We got the right 1160 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: tea together to structure right and we're doing like. 1161 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 4: So you did your own tool. 1162 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like anybody would putting my tours together, 1163 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 1: putting that money up, put my tours together. 1164 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 3: It's door buses, you know what I'm saying. 1165 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: Hotel like I've been. I've been putting that money up forever. 1166 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: That was I take ship from me. When I say 1167 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm a boss, I do this sh it. 1168 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 4: You ain't. 1169 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: If you ain't putting your money up, You're not a boss. 1170 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: I've been putting that money up from the jump, you 1171 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And present present now shiploaded loaded. 1172 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: Don't believe it. 1173 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 4: Go take a look shiploaded Like yes, man, Now when 1174 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: you so so you back in Atlanta before you got 1175 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 4: the song that ended up in Fortnite, I forgot the 1176 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 4: name so later took over the world that month, So 1177 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 4: that beat with h then you just see you got 1178 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 4: this mono tone that you can do right then you 1179 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 4: don't get it. You don't get too excited. You know 1180 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 4: what I'm saying in this pocket. 1181 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 3: You know where I learned that from that Juicy J. No, 1182 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: that's cheeko. 1183 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm right. Had a session with Juicy J when we 1184 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: had we had a song called all I Do it, 1185 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 1: I forgot the name it. All I Do is drunk 1186 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: some ship like that. And I was in the studio 1187 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: with Juice J. And I was like, I said, I'm 1188 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: a student, so it's engineered with he was you know 1189 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying When he was toopping like Juicy J ship, 1190 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: I was like, why are you doing like they like? Man, 1191 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: I gotta keep them in pocket. I was like, damn packet. 1192 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 4: I like that ship. 1193 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying That that pocket crazy because 1194 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: you right you right between the claps, right between the 1195 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: right between the eight o waight, and it ain't sloppy. 1196 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,959 Speaker 1: It's like right in it in the pocket, like saying 1197 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: that pocket. And I did that tim from Juicy J 1198 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: and engineering, and I took that ship with me and 1199 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: that's how I just every I was just practice standing 1200 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: in that Packastan. 1201 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 4: Show I showed was the business still up at lottery 1202 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 4: and because of the hit song pop up, it'll make 1203 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 4: the business right. 1204 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it it was still it was still shaking it 1205 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: round around around that time. That's when ship was like 1206 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: we was, we was, we was, We was in negotiation 1207 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: and how to get him all the way out of 1208 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: my ship and me have a clear path due the 1209 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: fun out knowing so again with lottery, you know what 1210 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, like I said, we were dropping mixtastes 1211 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: like wrestling, like we were still working bro like we 1212 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: still had fans rooting for us. 1213 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1214 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: We still was building something that you know, he was building, 1215 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, was underground the mainstream and I 1216 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: got a story about that that know about when it 1217 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: come to the Apple Music and Spotify training air like. 1218 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 4: R P Dauph P do. This was. 1219 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: This is before Gatsi became Gotsi the big dog. 1220 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cause what I didn't know. 1221 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonnaell you. I'm'a tell you quick back story. My 1222 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: ship all over the place, you know what I'm saying. 1223 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: But this shit, it's real life ship, this ship really 1224 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: haven't We was in a little five points. He from 1225 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: a little five points you know, I forgot it was 1226 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: like all start it was. It was something going on 1227 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: in Atlanta six seven years ago and I remember we 1228 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: was outside the club, were about to go inside the club, 1229 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: and it was a man in front of us that 1230 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: this kid would give them a hard time not letting 1231 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: them in. My boy tapped me, he said, hey, but 1232 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: that's Gasi. At the time, I didn't know who GAYSI was. 1233 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: But Gazi was already working with my old management. He 1234 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: the one that damn pushed money baby cut off. He 1235 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: was already working my ship. But I had no idea. 1236 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1237 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was just on some you know 1238 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, went in the business. So he told 1239 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: me that's guys. He's like, man, that's nigga. You know 1240 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I told like, hey, he with us. 1241 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, And he let guys in, 1242 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: Guys can vouch. He let guys in and guys like, 1243 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: what's up? Count? 1244 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 3: I was like, what's up? 1245 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm acting like I just knew it. You know what 1246 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, just playing the roll, right, you know what 1247 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what's up? You know what I'm saying, 1248 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: Good to see you. And that started our relationship, you 1249 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because after that I ain't even 1250 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: I just went to party. You know what I'm saying, 1251 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: Guys did what we did, what I did, what I did. 1252 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: And that's when I'm starting to see Empire started. 1253 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1254 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: Now you got Dolphin Ship like everybody, you know what 1255 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, coming through the Empire system. And like I said, 1256 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: it was a it was a separation gap between the 1257 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: mixtape game and Apple Music's when streaming was just starting 1258 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: to like either you're dropping the album or you're dropping 1259 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: a mixtape. That when the game was album mixtape. So 1260 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: during the time, because I you know what I'm saying, 1261 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: I came up listening to doll My Punishes. 1262 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 4: You know. 1263 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in the truck. It's just 1264 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: Doph uh jew it man. You know what I'm saying. 1265 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's that was a soundtrack, 1266 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: you feel me? So I knew from dropping mixtapes. But 1267 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: then I started seeing doff projects hitting Apple Music and Ship. 1268 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, how the fun is this dog getting 1269 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: on Apple Music? 1270 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1271 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: We was fighting to getting no alp of mute. We're 1272 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: trying to get we were trying our hardest get our 1273 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: music because Scope wasn't doing shit for it, So like, 1274 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: how to we get on Apple Music? That's the new lane. Damn. 1275 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 4: So this is what before tout Cordon knew about all that. 1276 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: All that, so I'm like, who getting music? The whole 1277 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: was signed the Empire. I remember I got in contact 1278 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: with Ghazi. I said, hey, bro, I'm trying to drop 1279 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: my project on Apple Music. That's all I cared about. Like, 1280 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to drop my shit on Apple Music. 1281 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: He was like, shit, that's cool. Like you know what 1282 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Come and fly to the Bay. I flew 1283 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: to the Bay. I took my my DJ. We flew 1284 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: to the Bay, met with Ghazi, sat in the room 1285 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: with him, him Nima. I was like, bro, all I 1286 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: want to do is get my shit on the goddamn 1287 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: mainstream math music. 1288 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1289 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: He's like, we can do that easy. I was like, 1290 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: all right, cool. I hit up Joey from in the Scope, 1291 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: which he was he was the head of Urban at 1292 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: that time. I was like, Joey, I just left from 1293 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: the Bay met with Ghazi. He said I could put 1294 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: my album on Apple. Joey hit me back like I 1295 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's a good idea. There, shut me down 1296 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 1: like I done, flew all the way to the goddamn 1297 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: the other side of the nation, worked to deal thinking 1298 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm just turned You know what I'm saying, Why why 1299 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: you turned contract contra But see Gutzi them fighting. Damn, 1300 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: That's why I love. 1301 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 4: This man. 1302 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 3: Guys, he you got free, free for all. He gonna 1303 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 3: he gonna but on ship. 1304 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1305 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 3: Why I related to guys. 1306 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. Joey turned me down, 1307 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: killed my whole confidence because I thought I put I. 1308 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: Pulled a move. 1309 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1310 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: I get back home probably a week past. That's when 1311 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: we was on robin hood. That's when we just partying 1312 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: and boardship and ship. We still we still having campaign. 1313 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: One thing I did that I'm glad I did. And 1314 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: I came from doing this. Guys throw parties and ship 1315 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: when I was in high school and ship, like you 1316 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like teen clubs. I used to 1317 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: pass our flies to Southern Bread back in the day. 1318 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. We came from that world. 1319 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: One thing I did it, I'm glad I did. 1320 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: I always threw kickbacks and like private vibes at the crib. 1321 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: So all the baddest there, all the popping, you know 1322 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The nigga, I knew that was you 1323 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the cool nigga. They had my 1324 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: shit and he was like an invite on this type vibe. 1325 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: So if you wasn't invited, you always like damn, like 1326 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we just take everybody 1327 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: that was at my party and we just go go 1328 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: to the club twenty twenty deep, twenty five deep with 1329 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: Bad Busy. We in the club were playing. That's when 1330 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: I dropped racks like this with money Bag. I put 1331 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: money bag Y on it before money Bad became. You 1332 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, crazy crazy popping, and we we 1333 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: in the club campaign and so nigga, what camp got 1334 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: going on? 1335 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 4: Mind you? 1336 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing going on. Radio ain't got you 1337 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we always had a campaign. 1338 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: So going back to the Gaji shit, I'm in the crib, 1339 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm sleep I wake up. I get a miss call 1340 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: from Gatzi. I call Gotji back. I'm like, what's up, bro, guys, 1341 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: you like, I got some good news. 1342 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 4: Talked to me. 1343 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 3: He was like, we can put your project on our 1344 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 3: music now. 1345 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: So I'm turning like hell yeah, Like damn, Like what happened. 1346 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 3: He ended up signing the deal. 1347 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: I think it was where you versal. 1348 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 3: He did a whole deal. 1349 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,399 Speaker 1: So my the ship I did sparked the whole new deal. 1350 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: And if you think about it, during that time, the 1351 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: mixtape game disappeared and straight Apple Music, Spotify, like the 1352 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 1: whole mixtake game kind of like you know what I'm saying, 1353 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of evolved into the whole new era, and I 1354 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: felt like I had my hand on that, you know 1355 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And like because I took that leap 1356 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: of faithful when that. 1357 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 4: Was the conversation with guys in Universal to strike the deal, I. 1358 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 1: Never even really, you know what I'm saying, dug it, 1359 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: dug into it. All I know is like, shit, I 1360 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: can put my shit on Apple now. 1361 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 3: I don't care about what deal they did. 1362 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: Whatever I said sparked something, and now I can put 1363 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: my shit on Apple, you know what I'm saying. 1364 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,479 Speaker 4: So that was the whole thing. So we just working 1365 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 4: boom boom. 1366 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, dropping the Kiss series, I'm doing 1367 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: all the look the Rare family. You know what I'm saying, 1368 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: we drop him and after all that dropping like we 1369 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: had like I said, we had recks like this. I 1370 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: shot the video money Bag. I could feel that we 1371 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: were getting at tracks. In the club they started playing 1372 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: recks like this, like the Flame Magic, you know what 1373 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. The clubs that we came up like DJ's fuck. 1374 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: I go in the club, they boom rest like this 1375 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 1: and we turned, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, 1376 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: we're getting some motion back. I remember James like this 1377 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: the one I said, Nah, this ain't the one. I said, 1378 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,919 Speaker 1: the next one gonna be the one. And the next 1379 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: one was. 1380 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 4: Lottery Wow, and Lottery got them a lot of with 1381 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 4: crazy it said. Do you know I always ask rappers 1382 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 4: do they have accountants? Like to know because meet me 1383 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 4: know exactly how much the intro made, Like he'll tell you, 1384 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 4: like I made the intro made twelve million dollars, Yeah, 1385 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 4: eleven million dollars leven Do you know how much money 1386 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 4: lottery made a whole lot? 1387 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 3: But did I see all that? 1388 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 2: No? 1389 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 3: I was still in that deal. 1390 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I see that's the thing, 1391 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 4: like when you get out of the deal, because they 1392 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 4: worked those records, they be working it because they got 1393 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 4: interest in it. They ain't really work that record at all. 1394 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: I was with I was they downstreaming the Empire, so 1395 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: we was running. We was running through Empire, but we 1396 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: was putting all the lead work in for that record 1397 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: We're going out to you know what I'm saying. 1398 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 4: Like the Empire worked the record. 1399 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 1: Empire helped big time, you know what I'm saying, because 1400 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: they put a little marketing dollars behind it. 1401 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1402 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: They gave it life. 1403 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1404 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 3: But we you know what I'm saying, Like I said, 1405 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 3: like we I. 1406 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: Really hate that side of the business. Bro, It's bullshit, 1407 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You don't know what you're doing, 1408 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: like you can. You can easily get wiped out this ship. 1409 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: So lottery took off, you know what I'm saying. That's 1410 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: when the world caught on. That's when the girl did 1411 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: the damn shout out to lay it. That's when the 1412 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: white girl on tik tok and they stole it. 1413 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 4: So it was a big deal. Wasn't it wasn't it? 1414 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, something about somebody else stole it. That's how I 1415 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: got in front of it. And tell you how God worked. 1416 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: Bro So lottery was you know what I'm saying. I 1417 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: could see it moving online when you you as an artist. 1418 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if if y'all, but I knowing some 1419 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: ship about the Pope. 1420 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1421 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: It's how many reals you're seeing, how many times you're 1422 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: getting tagged in that bit you get on Twitter? You 1423 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: see that make you get on Instagram, you see that 1424 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: bit when you go outside somebody like that that new 1425 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: you know ship cooking. 1426 00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1427 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 3: I knew that mom was cooking. 1428 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: So one day I get on Twitter and I see 1429 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: I get tagged in a j C News. That's a 1430 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: big publication, you know what I'm saying. News, You know 1431 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And they was talking about a girl 1432 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: who did a dance to my song that. 1433 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 3: Wasn't getting credit. Mind you, I ain't. 1434 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 4: I wasn't on. 1435 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 3: TikTok, I wasn't on none of these. 1436 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1437 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't on that. So I'm like, damn, like this 1438 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: can go left. 1439 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the song doing too good? 1440 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: If they got damn if this, if this posted, if 1441 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: it's damn tweet go up, it can make me look 1442 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: crazy like I'm I'm not for the creator. 1443 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1444 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 4: That turned down? So yeah, yeah, yeah, so and that's it. 1445 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 4: That'll they can turn on them, that. 1446 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: Can turn on the You know what I'm saying, Black 1447 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: you know you're like black girl, you ain't you know 1448 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, twist ship something else? So 1449 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: tell you how God work. So I reached out and 1450 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: one of my dollars you probably know, you know past certified, well, 1451 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: you know our generational German and Pat. 1452 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how I got on the phone. 1453 00:58:59,560 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 4: Pat. 1454 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: He he called me. He had to call me because 1455 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: I ain't know he even had connection. He was like, Bro, 1456 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: that girl, that's my homegirl from a college daughter. I 1457 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: was like, ain't no fun. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1458 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: but that's her daughter, bro. And it was around Valentine's Day. 1459 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: It's around Valentine's Day. I was like, ship, bring him 1460 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: to the studio. You know what I'm saying, like, bring 1461 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: the girl. You know what I'm saying, I give him 1462 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: a little bear, give him some Valentine ship, and we 1463 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: record him doing the dance and I'm in the. 1464 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 4: Video in the a room. 1465 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: He was like, shit, all right, cool made the call 1466 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: and if you go you know what I'm saying, type 1467 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: of all of Google. And I had j Laya and 1468 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: her friend doing the dance, and I mean, I've seen bouncing. 1469 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1470 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: That bit went viral. That bit went viral like that 1471 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: what took the ship up through that was wholesome. 1472 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 3: It was wholesome, you know what I'm saying. And that 1473 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 3: ship like it changed the whole narrative of what they 1474 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 3: try to you know what I'm saying. 1475 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 4: So what they separating you from the girl? What they 1476 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 4: separating because mom do? What was so explained to the 1477 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 4: audience exactly what happened with the dance and the record. 1478 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 3: To my understanding, I ain't really go too deep. 1479 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: And take it where somebody stole. The Layer started the dance. 1480 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: She created the dance. The Layer is a dancer, you 1481 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She created the dance and started 1482 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: catching steam on tip top. The white girls with Commilia. Yeah, 1483 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: because I was they did the dance after and everybody 1484 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: thinking they did the dance. You know what I'm saying, 1485 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: they think and they created the dance. 1486 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: So it was a whole little thing. 1487 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: And that dance community, whever the influence whatever, whatever community 1488 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: it is, it was a It was a whole thing 1489 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: saying like these girls took this dance from this little 1490 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: black girl black created. 1491 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 4: You feel you were behind that. Your song was really 1492 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 4: strong in it because they was like, Yo, they're taking that. 1493 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 4: And what I got right here is that it I 1494 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 4: think she did NBA games or something. 1495 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: That ship, you know what I'm saying. They called us 1496 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: to the to the NBA All Star Game. You know 1497 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, she did the dance. Hats like that 1498 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: ship went through the moon. Like that ship. 1499 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was a blessing from God. 1500 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: But it was so crazy because you know what I'm saying, like, 1501 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: just imagine everybody thinking your ship over with you know what, Yeah, 1502 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I didn't have meetings with it. And he gonna say 1503 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: their names like and known before they even got in position. 1504 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: How they you can always feel an energy, how they 1505 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: feel about what you got going on. You know what 1506 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you tell them something, they like, Okay, 1507 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You can always tell how 1508 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: they feel about you by his reaction to what you're 1509 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: telling them. And I'm like, damn, in my head, I'm like, oh, 1510 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: these niggas, they think I'm over it, you know what 1511 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the whole and I'm like, Okay, I 1512 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: got something proved of these niggas. So we still like, 1513 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: like I said, going back to the to the drawing boards, 1514 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: torn still dropping for the fans, still putting that work, 1515 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: but it's not a mainstream level. So when lottery came 1516 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: and everybody, you know what I'm saying, riding dick now 1517 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I told y'all shit, wasn't know Like no, 1518 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm in Fortnite Taco Bell commercial All Star Game. 1519 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 4: I went hear the roll. 1520 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the beat was on ship, Like you know what 1521 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the ship went so crazy and this 1522 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: one thing, like I tell every artist for real, like 1523 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: stay in the studio, bro, stay in the studio. You 1524 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Keep because I'm gonna tell you 1525 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: what say. I ain't ain't gonna say save me because 1526 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: this ship was pre premeditator, bro, we knew what the 1527 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: we was doing, you know, well, we knew what we 1528 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: was doing. When Lottery came out, I was already recording 1529 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Kiss five, which is one of my biggest albums today. 1530 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1531 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Like I was recording Kiss five, I had features from 1532 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Black Ari Lennox, I had just ceez on that mother 1533 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: from your Mind Ice Cold, Uh, Jeremy, I had you 1534 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1535 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 4: The ship was loaded up. 1536 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: So when Lottery came out, of course the mother would 1537 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: be like what else he got? This is a song, 1538 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, still trying to play you feel me like that? 1539 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Just a song like songs every day. And I dropped 1540 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Kiss five on the top during the during the pandemic 1541 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: and game up and Game up, and that made me 1542 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: look at me like, oh, this nigg really do this ship? 1543 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not a game. 1544 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 4: Listen to Camp. You know, Camp do this ship. 1545 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: But a lot of niggas, man, you know how this 1546 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: game and they count you out so fast you can 1547 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: prove it, do this ship ten years straight. 1548 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 4: Look out, they're doing Drake. But it's yeah, we finna 1549 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:14,919 Speaker 4: get to Drake. 1550 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: But you know what I was. 1551 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 4: So it's funny is that the labels a disappear song 1552 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 4: like it all pop and they'll come back around. It's 1553 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 4: it's damned the disrespectful cause they act like they ain't 1554 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 4: been gone. 1555 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Like a stress happened with me. They came back around. 1556 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: I had called I had when a lot of it 1557 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: was going crazy, but shit had like probably I think 1558 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: it was like ninety something million strange without and it's goope. 1559 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 3: Help and I had I had I had. 1560 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 4: You know how powerful that is. 1561 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 3: It's powerful. And I remember I was on the flight. 1562 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 3: I forgot where I was going. 1563 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I was head to a show and the group check 1564 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: with my management at the time, we were talking about it, 1565 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and I was just getting mad at in the group check. 1566 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 3: I was, you know what I'm saying. I was just, 1567 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 3: you know, my feelings that day. 1568 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: So I got on Twitter and I tagged Joe, was like, 1569 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: hey man, this song doing blah blah blah streams and 1570 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: y'all ain't doing shit. Y'all ain't let me go. I 1571 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: put it on the Twitter, like you know what I'm saying, 1572 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: say she peed it up? 1573 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1574 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 3: As soon as I landed on my phone up like 1575 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1576 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm just knowing it. Like y'all said what I said. 1577 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like get right, you feel me, 1578 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. After me bucking, and 1579 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot more went with that. Just it wasn't just 1580 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: that situation. It was a lot more. I just a 1581 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: lot of bucking. Ain't gonna lie I was bucking during 1582 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: that time. 1583 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 2: I was. 1584 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 3: I was angry, always get paid. 1585 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 4: I had a baby on the way, man, I was, 1586 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 4: I was. 1587 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: I was. 1588 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1589 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 3: My mind was dark. 1590 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I was. 1591 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 1: I was in a dark space. 1592 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 4: So I was. 1593 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: I was like, nig I'll give a nobody and nothing 1594 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say how I feel. I'm gonna do 1595 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: what i want. Problem with it, I'm gonna go all 1596 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: out about it. So when the ship popped, you know 1597 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: they had no choice cause you look crazy. 1598 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 3: If I'm signed. I showed y'all hands. 1599 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm signing to you, and 1600 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: you got me going through a whole damn distribution coming 1601 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not even sign to them. Like all the 1602 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: faith the guy that shot the guy that's my dog 1603 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: for life. He was fucking me, you know what I'm 1604 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 1: because he already had passed. He know, my ship make money. 1605 01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 4: He made money. 1606 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 1: If cut off money, but back, you know what I'm saying. 1607 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I knew my ship was in the green. 1608 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 3: My ship was green. 1609 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: I never been in the red. My ship was alway green. 1610 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: So I made the money. So I'm like, I talked 1611 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: to her like, bro, you don't like money or something 1612 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: like what y'all doing. I just swear to the guys 1613 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: on the phone will like, bro, you don't like money 1614 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: or something. So that forced in the scope hand like 1615 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: all right, bring camp back. 1616 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1617 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: Then that's when I dropp Kiss five. That's when they 1618 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: gave me like the they just push popped me up, 1619 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And the project was amazing. 1620 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: It was one of my you know, my best work today. 1621 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: And and that kind of like put me back in there. 1622 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: He back and then they camp back. Been doing this 1623 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 1: ship y'all just ain't see because I wasn't getting that push, 1624 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: you feel me? So it was one of them things 1625 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and I just took advantage of when I drop Kiss five, 1626 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I had like three four more hours left in the 1627 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: scope and I just hit the ground running. I dropped 1628 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Kiss five, I dropped uh, I think it was rare family. 1629 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 1: I dropped five Forever. I dropped the Float album. 1630 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 4: You know why I did this is the game, right 1631 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 4: you made so much money with lottery for them, regardless 1632 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 4: if because I'm always interested in knowing, I'm already knowing 1633 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 4: they I'm already knowing that they might have seen five six, seven, eight, 1634 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 4: nine ten million off their record and shot you under 1635 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 4: the ticket. 1636 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah tight, sh yeah, shot me crumb. 1637 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I can and I know that because they 1638 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 4: only are gonna push those records and prop them up 1639 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 4: when they have that advantage on like your independent records, 1640 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 4: even if you got a partnership, they don't have that 1641 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 4: incentive to push them in the same way when they say, 1642 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 4: look we own seventy percent of this song. Put this pipsy, 1643 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 4: put it over here, put it extra. Know what I'm saying. 1644 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, so wow, that's how that shit went, you 1645 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And now your deal with them 1646 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,439 Speaker 1: is over with now yeah, my last my last album 1647 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: with the. 1648 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 3: Album in twenty two. 1649 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 4: Are you utilizing Empire stel or you you just doing 1650 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 4: it yourself? 1651 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing it myself. You know what I'm saying. 1652 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: I got I got some I did aw a new Strutgure, 1653 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I did like a master p deal probably like the last. 1654 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: No verybody just an't announce it it right, you know 1655 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but during that time, you know, 1656 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 1: we we got our own distribution company. 1657 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1658 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: My DJ, my my business partner, we started up all here. 1659 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: It's called mixtape monopoly, you know what I'm saying. And 1660 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I was we was distributing our own shit through our 1661 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: own shit, so I'm getting paid direct. 1662 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1663 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,919 Speaker 1: He was getting great acquisition. You know what I'm saying, 1664 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: top tier you know what I'm saying. Playlisting, marketing. You 1665 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We was doing the shit ourselves. 1666 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 1: Like my last album, I put out Floats in London. 1667 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm out of pocket. I came out of pocket, probably 1668 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: twenty fifty thousand, all my own money to put out. 1669 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I went to London and 1670 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: shot the whole, the whole roll out by myself. Yeah, 1671 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, went to London, dolo and 1672 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: shot the whole campaign and came back. 1673 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 4: Had Instagram looking like glass like this doing right. 1674 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 1: I stand on the art. I stand on the brand 1675 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and tell that you know what I'm saying. I care 1676 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: about the brand and care about the art. I don't 1677 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: give none of else. Of course, the music and the 1678 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: other spit. You can always tell when nick don't give 1679 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: a fuck the art, cause it's gonna show. The niggas 1680 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: gonna that that's different between major and independent. You keep 1681 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: coming through like you're still on major, they gonna treat 1682 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: you like, Okay, this nigga still having ship going on. 1683 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 3: You got damn start shooting ship with the iPhone and 1684 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 3: ship looks crunchy. Hell, nigga, Oh this fall he done? 1685 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You can see from here 1686 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 3: to hear right, you know what I'm saying. 1687 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 4: The interesting thing about people like NBA Young Boy is 1688 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,839 Speaker 4: that he would be major but operating like a mind exactly, 1689 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,799 Speaker 4: you know, like an independent like he would be dropping 1690 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 4: ship that ain't even done, songs finish, but it's fan 1691 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 4: based with edith. 1692 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 3: You nig like, that's raw shit. I ain't gonna lie. 1693 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 3: NBA shot the NBA Young that nigga. 1694 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: When I seen how that got damn coming through the 1695 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: screen like video at the video song got the song. 1696 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: He turned me up. I was like, oh, hell no, 1697 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: I ain't working hard enough like the young nigga. 1698 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 4: Through and gunning, gunning, and you can find yourself because 1699 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 4: you got that kind of vibe where the art is 1700 01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 4: present in your mind. They can outrun you if you 1701 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,719 Speaker 4: ain't careful. You know what I'm saying, keep dropping running 1702 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 4: gun video shoes. They and they'll have major artists because 1703 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 4: they are major. Like Dirt would do the same thing. 1704 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 4: Would it be a lot of running gun shoes, a 1705 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 4: lot of running ship. 1706 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with that, cau I do 1707 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,760 Speaker 1: that ship too, But it's a time and the place 1708 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: like okay, if you know, like you can always run 1709 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 1: a gun and do some ship and some shit to 1710 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: catch some shit, to just be have three four five 1711 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying. Like, but you 1712 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: know when you're trying to god damn compete with the Drakes, 1713 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the Weekends, the Kendricks and the title of the credit, 1714 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: the asat Rockies and you know where they come with. 1715 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: Because understand, like these brands like Coca Cola, Pepsi, all 1716 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: these top brands. Them run on brand structure, Like you 1717 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: ain't gonna see God Damn Coke going outside, they brand. 1718 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna see Pepsi going outside, they brand. And 1719 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: if you as an artist, you gotta think that way 1720 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: because why why would why would Coca Pepsi? 1721 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 3: If your ship sloppy? 1722 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,600 Speaker 1: Right, if you ain't coming through looking like glass and 1723 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: your ship from A to Z looking like they're not 1724 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna because you're gonna, they brand exactly. So I look 1725 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: at it like, you know what I'm saying, look at 1726 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: myself as a brand. I try to come through like 1727 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 1: if anybody come see my ship, if anybody come to 1728 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: my page or come through my world like oh this 1729 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: nigga shit built up? 1730 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1731 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: And that go a lot further because I can put 1732 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the mic down and get a contract with Calvin Klein 1733 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: or Door or something and they paying me fift thousand 1734 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: a month. You know what I'm saying, Like I ain't 1735 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: got a touch. You know what I'm saying, lists I 1736 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: want to you know what I'm saying. I'm trying to 1737 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 1: go that route where I ain't gotta just I love 1738 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the studio. 1739 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't get me wrong. I stay in at it 1740 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 3: on the pim, but if I don't have to, because 1741 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 3: that shit work. 1742 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: It's hard work, you know, like creative hours and actually 1743 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 1: doing this shit, like niggas put shit out and be like, yeah, 1744 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I just put this shit out. When I do this shit, 1745 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I recording engineer, that bitch. I'm bringing artist, I'm doing 1746 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the Kanye shit. I'm really in there, like I'm chopping 1747 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: vocal sept Three four in the morning out my mind, 1748 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: wake up and seek go back in there, like I'm 1749 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: actually really taking this shit so seriously. That's why it's 1750 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: coming out sounding like that. I ain't just going there 1751 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and saying some shit like put this shit out right now. 1752 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: The alleys got to hit, these harmonies, got to hit 1753 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: whoever I put on this bit. 1754 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1755 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm really in there, like on some scientists mad scientist shit. 1756 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 1: So it's like, I know how much work I'm putting 1757 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: in the studio to get my fans what they won't 1758 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 1: and like, I love it to death. But if I 1759 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: ain't gonta do that twenty four seven, I can go 1760 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 1: get another bad one hundred two hundred thousand. 1761 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 4: Just taking a picture or walking somewhere or doing bring 1762 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 4: it here right. And you've always had that BRAIND preservation 1763 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 4: like you gave you. You've always cared about your brain. 1764 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like