WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Trevor Sikkema, NBA Preview 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:05.280 Sports Radio Final Hour. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:09.240 In this Tuesday, we'll talk NFL Draft and the Shador 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:14.680 Sanders story that seems to be growing bad news for 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.840 the Dallas Mavericks. More bad news, I should say, sham 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:23.520 Sharania the Mothership. Kyrie Irving has suffered a season ending 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.320 torn a ACL and his left knee. He was hurt 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.880 last night limped off the floor. At first it was 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.800 labeled a sprain at an MRI and realized that he 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:36.680 had torn the ACL. He is currently the only player 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.760 in the NBA averaging at least twenty points shooting forty 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.680 percent from three point range ninety percent from the free 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:47.080 throw line, the fifth season in his career with those statistics, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.080 second most all time to Steph Curry, but out for 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.479 the rest of the season. He appeared in fifty of 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.520 the MAVs sixty two games so far this season, but 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.639 done for the year and getting injured on the night 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.200 when the Mavericks announced they're going to raise season ticket 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.800 prices for next season. Congratulations, what a month for the 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.840 Dallas Mavericks. 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We spent 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.679 a lot of time talking about there's anonymous coach in 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.120 a meeting interview with Shadoor Sanders at the Combine and 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.880 this is apparently a team that's in the top seven 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:36.240 as far as draft order, and there was a coach 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:41.399 who said that shouldre Sanders came off arrogant and brash. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.960 We talked to Matt Miller of the Mothership Draft analyst. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.240 He's not very high on Shaudor Sanders the football player. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.960 But this just sort of, I don't know, came out 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.960 of nowhere and then all of a sudden, opinions are coming, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.480 you know, fast and furious. Trevor Sikima, he is the 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.760 lead analyst Pro Football Focus, and you have a strong 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.360 opinion on Shudor Sanders as well. Trevor, good to have 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.079 you back. Where do you stand on shud Or Sanders? Yeah, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:11.600 I appreciate it. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.040 Dan, first off, five to eleven, one seventy eight and 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.280 seven eight inch hand size, although that is with no 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.520 hand massaging going on. So I feel like if we 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.200 get a couple of weeks with that technique, I can 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.560 hit that Joe Burrow nine inch threshold. So I just 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.200 want to say that first and foremost. Uh, you know what, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.000 shud Or Sanders. The fact of the matter is is 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.079 I had him slipping out of my post combine mock 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.920 draft that I did over at PFF dot com. And 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.040 the reason why is because I could not find anybody 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.680 that spoke with conviction with Shudor Sanders being QB one 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.600 taken in the top ten or even as a first 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.920 round quarterback. So to me, when I hear that and 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.119 I line that up with a lot of people were 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.520 talking about cam Ward, is somebody that you take that 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.280 chance on, I feel like it's a one quarterback race 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:58.840 at this point. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.000 Now. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.480 When I watch Shador, he plays a very clean brand football. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.240 He understands the position very very well. You could tell 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.800 that he's been raised around the game. He understands how 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.000 to read defenses, go through progressions all of that, operate 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.400 the pocket, make protection calls. He knows how to play quarterback. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.480 The reason why I'm a little bit lower on him, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.240 I gave him a late second early third round grade, 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.320 is simply because I don't know if he's got that 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.400 crazy arm talent to be able to compete against the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.560 Lamar Jackson's, the Josh Allens, the Patrick Mahomes, guys like that. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.240 That the reason why you would draft the quarterback isn't 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.040 in the top ten, isn't just because hey, let's take 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.080 one just because we need one. It's because you want 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.720 to win a super Bowl. You're taking a guy that 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.280 high because you believe he can win a Super Bowl. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.880 Does shud Or have the overall arm talent to matchup 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:44.720 against those guys? 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:45.720 I don't think so. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.840 And I think as we are getting more into draft 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.480 season and the combines a really good barometer for this, 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.640 you get sort of caught up on what the league 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.720 might have been thinking about these players really all along. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.839 And I think we talked about to Q because there's 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.720 so many quarterback needy teams in the top ten. But 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.600 it just feels like teams are much more gravitating towards 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.240 cam Ward worthy of a top selection and Chador maybe 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.280 something more on Day two or the late first round. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.040 But how much of this is the last name that 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.080 if this is just you know, Shaud or Smith and 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.320 not Shoud or Sanders, you know, does his draft status 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.159 stock change at all? In your mind? 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.960 I would say that it would probably be the other 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.320 way around. You know, when you look at Shador and 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.960 I understand how well he played over the last couple 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.200 of years and everything that he was able to do 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.320 at Jackson State and then also at Colorado. I think, again, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.720 he plays a very clean brand of football, But does 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.320 he have those NFL level traits that you want as 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.760 a franchise caliber quarterback because he lacks the overall mobility 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.520 And again, I think that he's got a mid tier 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.960 NFL level arm strength, but it's it's nothing that's really special. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.719 So I wonder if it's the opposite VP, and I 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.120 wonder if it's the fact that, hey, we've been talking 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.359 about Shador in the top ten, in the top five 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.400 because of sort of who he is and the notoriety 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.039 that he has, instead of the other way around, like 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.200 we're seeing now where it's like, oh, well, does the 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.760 NFL not like him, you know, because of his last 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.839 name and some people call it baggage. I agree with 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.640 Shador when he said at the Shrine Bull He's like, 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.880 I didn't know that having a supportive parent was all 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.360 of a sudden a bad thing, you know, Like I 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.800 totally agree with him when he says that, And so 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.400 I think it's much more of maybe the notoriety and 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.240 him being in the public eye and us saying like, hey, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.560 if you need a quarterback, he's a quarterback in this class. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.600 And now we're just sort of catching up to it. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.360 Feels like the NFL is saying, eh, maybe not quite 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.360 in the top ten, maybe something a little bit further 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:40.040 down the line. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.520 And he's going to get a lot of attention because 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.560 he's Dion Son. And then there's cam Ward, who is 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.440 appears to be by far and away the number one 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.680 quarterback in the draft. Let's nitpick, because that's what we 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.000 start to do this time of the year. Trevor nitpick 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:55.560 cam Ward. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.440 Well, I think that you know Joe Shane, the general 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.360 manager of the new the New York Giants, who they 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.080 very much need a quarterback as well. You know, he 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.039 was asked specifically about cam Ward when he was at 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.440 his podium session at the Combine, and you know he said, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.120 you know, hey, you watch that col game, in that 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.440 Virginia Tech game. Those are two games where at the 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.800 end of it, when the clockheads zero, cam Ward, what 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.760 a hero, incredible comeback. But then he goes the reason 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.800 why they needed to come back is also because of 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.680 him a little bit. So it is a little bit 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.800 of that hot and cold there, and so there's no doubt. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.640 I mean, like you don't need to even necessarily call 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.880 it nitpicking to talk about what is the total product 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.960 of cam Ward. He's somebody who is just very unorthodox. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.600 And how he looks back there in the pocket. I 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.000 mean there are times when the feet just stopped moving 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.240 completely and you go, did you freeze? Like do we 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.560 need to you know, unplug you and reset you here 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.279 before you get rid of the ball, And like that's 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.680 just sometimes what it looks like for cam Ward. And 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.080 so his style, you know, how he releases the football, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.640 the decisions of when to push the ball down the field, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.640 all of that, it's a little bit boom or bust. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.440 You know, it's a little bit of like can you 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.880 stomach this? But the reason why I do, and the 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.719 reason why he's my QB one is because I firmly 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.080 believe in a game where the margins are so small, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.600 every quarterback in the NFL has about two to four 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.359 throws that they have to make every single week to 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:10.280 win in this league. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.880 Cam Nordon not only in my. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.000 Opinion, has the arm talent to do so, but he 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.840 has the mentality to do so. He will willingly attack 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.840 those throws and take those chances. So it's a lot 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.440 of that. Hey, there's a lot of good, a lot 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.160 of bad. You want to try to raise the floor 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.560 with them. But yeah, I mean, we don't even necessarily 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.160 have to call it nitpicking. This is sort of a 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.680 risky quarterback class here, including with Ward. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.480 Trevor Sikima, the Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst joining 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.880 us on the program. If you looked at Sam Darnold's 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.600 profile now compared to when he was coming into the NFL, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.120 how much has it changed with Pro Football Focus looking at. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.720 Him, No, it's a lot, and it's a lot of 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.200 dealing with pressure. Honestly, you know what he was able 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.200 to do at USC, I think that that short sort 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:54.880 of shows that, you know, when you're in a really 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.880 good college environment sometimes that can mask things, right. We 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.760 saw that with Zach Wilson as well, where at BYU 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.160 he's playing behind one of the best offensive lines in 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.040 the country and then he gets to the New York Jets. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.360 Both of those guys, ironically, and it's just a different story. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.480 You're playing with a lot of pressure. You know, there's 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.520 the phrase that everybody likes to, you know, continue to 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.160 bring up with Sam Darnold where he felt like he 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.440 was seeing ghosts and it just it took him a 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.760 while to get to this point where he's now confident 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.240 enough to not see ghosts anymore, to really be able 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.560 to play under pressure the way that he needs to now. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.000 I know, those last two games of the season sort 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.920 of brought back some of those doubts from him. But 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.680 you know, at PFF, it was really that passing grade 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.200 under pressure that was that was such a sticking point 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.800 with him when he was with the Jets and how 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.280 different it was under Kevin O'Connell and in that system. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.200 Now did O'Connell do a nice job of making it 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.760 maybe easier for him, of course, But that manifests itself 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.480 in confidence, and that's the most important thing for every 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.400 player making the jump from college to the NFL. When 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.559 can you expect that confidence? And I think that's a 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.480 big part of when teams do these player interviews and 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.920 when they get these guys in for these private workouts, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.800 it's simply determined because they've watched the tape, they know 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.400 the scouting reports. It's simply determining Are you a confident 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.240 football player? Can you hit the ground running and still 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.800 bring all of your talent to the floor here when 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.560 you get here in the NFL? And for Sam that 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.679 wasn't the case early on, but sometimes it takes a 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.959 little bit of the development from these guys. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.199 How many running backs have first round grades at Pro 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.199 Football Focus. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.199 So I would say two of them have first round 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.040 grades in Ashton Genty and Omari and Hampton. But I 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.280 could see, yeah, after the combine that quin Shawn Jenkins 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.600 had from Ohio State, I think he is in that category. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.320 You know, Caleb Johnson, I know a lot of people 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.400 love him from Iowa. I think that he is in 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.240 that category. The running back that I am the most 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.240 confused with is did we just forget what cam' Scatibo 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.400 did at Arizona State over this past year. Like I understand, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.079 he's not going to run the fastest forty yard dash, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.079 but even at the combine, the one thing he did 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.040 was the vertical jump and it was thirty nine and 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.480 a half inches. That is well above expectation and showcases 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.160 that explosive this. I mean, we even saw in the 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.839 College Football Playoff he's rushing for touchdowns he's catching touchdowns, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.800 he's throwing for touchdowns. This is a football player, man, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.480 And from the running back position, I think that we 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.280 just we sometimes focus on the wrong things. How often 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.640 do you really have the chance to be a quote 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.160 unquote home run hitter at the running back position. How 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.560 many times do you get the chance to run a 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.360 forty to fifty sixty yard. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.400 Game to the house. Doesn't happen at the NFL level. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.920 Give me the guys that will turn a three yard 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.000 carry into a four and a half yard carry on 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.080 a regular basis, with that yards after contact in that style. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.400 So I don't think that camp Scattaboy is going to 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.559 go in round one, but that's another player that we're 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.360 going to get a lot of these running backs that 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.240 go on the fringe or early parts in round two. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.360 I mentioned Caleb Johnson Scataboo. I think that Trayvon Henderson 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.079 is in there as well, a couple of guys who 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.600 had good combines, and DJ Giddens and RJ. Harvey might 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.400 get there in the back of the second round. So 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.000 I would tell you we're getting at least two he 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.240 get the least Ashing genty and O Marion Hampton are 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.320 getting in the first round, but could very well have 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.000 that third if it's Quinshawn Jenkins. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.920 Great to talk to you as always, Trevor, thanks for 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:10.480 joining us. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.040 Appreciate a DP anytime. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.120 That's Trevor Sikima, the lead draft analysts for Pro Football Focus. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.640 All right, so those are two guys, well respected guys 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.080 in the industry, and both saying the same thing. Shadoor 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:28.160 Sanders might not be a first round town. This has 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.800 just started. It feels like now he didn't do anything 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.640 at the combine other than do interviews, but now all 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.600 of a sudden, it feels like there's this groundswell consensus 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.400 that should Door Sanders is overrated. I want to see 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.160 what happens on his pro date. Now, I don't put 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.400 too much stock in it, and I'll go back to 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.840 what I've said. I'm not rewriting history. I loved what 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.880 I saw with him at Colorado, but he is not 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.480 a playmaker, you know, the way we look at Josh 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.720 Allen mean, Joe Burrow's more of a playmaker, justin Herbert 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.040 more of a playmaker. He's not a playmaker. He's not big, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:11.520 he's not fast, He's tough, but I don't know you know, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.840 can that translate to a six foot one quarterback who 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.320 doesn't extend plays the way you would want your quarterback 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.800 in today's game to be able to extend. So, whoever 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.160 was ranking him before, I don't know what they were 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.880 factoring in or not factoring in cam Ward, I get it. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.720 Everybody talks about how strong his arm is. I get that. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:39.160 Is that enough in this draft? It will be because 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.199 he's going to go probably in the top three. Normally 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.720 he wouldn't, yeah, pulling any chance. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.360 This is the opposite what's being talked about that these 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.480 NFL teams are feigning disinterest in Shador Sanders in hopes 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.360 that he drops. If you're the Las Vegas Raiders, you 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.800 walk around the combine saying yet that he's not on 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.560 our radar. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:06.360 Okay, but does Pete Carroll want a rookie quarterback? Let's 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.880 just look at team by team. If Pete Carroll wants 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.720 a veteran quarterback, you don't want to take a quarterback. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.480 You want to get the right quarterback. You don't want 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.439 to go, hey, we need a quarterback, Let's take shaudor Sanders. Seventh. Overall, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.920 the Giants that coaching staff needs to win now or 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.600 they're going to get fired. Well, Aaron Rodgers gives you 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.040 a better chance than shardor Sanders, and probably cam Ward does. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:36.800 Right now, Tennessee, if I'm Tennessee, I trade down. You 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.480 don't you need a quarterback, But let's get somebody who 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.920 is going to be a great player for you, like 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.280 Abdul Carter. You want Travis Hunters, somebody you know is 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.439 going to be great, Yes, Mark, But. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.480 Pete Carroll had Rocky Russell Wilson. So maybe if he 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.680 thinks Shard door Sanders would fit in his system, maybe 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:58.560 he'll go with him. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.240 But he had a top five defense. He just needed 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.720 a quarterback who could be a little more athletic than 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.720 Matt Flynn. You know, the bar wasn't set too high there, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.000 and Russ turned out to be a whole lot better 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.719 than you know, Pete probably even thought, and he I 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.800 wouldn't put, you know, out of the equation of bringing 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:25.880 in Russell Wilson to Vegas. I think I think Pete 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.440 and Russ have mended their offences there. I think that 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.200 relationship was bad in Seattle. And you know, my source 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.080 said that it was going to be one or the 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.880 other had to go and of course Russell lost that one. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.520 Yeah, Pauli, Marvi and I were just saying, who's the 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.800 least Vegas quarterback. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:45.840 In the NFL. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.440 Russell, wils Kirk Cousins, one seed, Yes Kirk Cousins. Yes, 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:51.880 Wilson is super Vegas. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.440 Yes, oh yeah. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.080 Well his wife will make him super Vegas. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:56.360 Yeah. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.560 Remember man, when we saw him in Miami. He's got 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.320 the chains, he's got the shades of Valor's shirt. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.920 He's modern day Vegas. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.840 I thought he was trying to channel John Stamos when 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.720 we saw him in Miami with his hair and like 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.960 he was like, damn, what's going on? 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:16.400 Russ? 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.960 And I was like, that's a makeover with your wife. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.960 Sierra's got that written all over. Yeah, pulling. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.320 I still think though, teams like the New York Giants 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.320 and jackson not Jacksonville, the Raiders, the Jets, the Saints, 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.480 they're probably all playing it if they don't aren't interested 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.360 in that quarterback because there's not a lot to choose from. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.120 Remember years ago, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they didn't even interview 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.840 Blake Bortles, and they acted like they weren't interested and 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.680 they just took him. Now, it worked out for a 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.880 little bit. But these teams have deeper strategies sometimes. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.520 Yeah, but if once again they're looking at Shade or 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.200 Sanders and they're assessing what is real he's non athletic 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.360 in the face bet he's six to one. Oh wait, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.080 what's the well, no teams are going to be stupid. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.240 I mean somebody will be like, uh, she's right there, Well, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:04.280 we're gonna take him. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.120 What would be the over under from where he's drafted. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:07.720 Uh? 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.720 If I give you five and a half five and 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.680 a half over under pie to the face, would you 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.000 take pie to the face under five and a half? 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:19.880 For sure? 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.840 Is anybody who want a piece of Paulie for piece 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:32.000 of pie? Shudoor Sanders goes in the top five, anybody 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.680 want a piece of that? Could be a trade. Somebody 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.600 trades crickets on the other side, crickets on the. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.280 If we would have done this bet, you know. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.040 What, Paulie, I'll take you. I'll take you up on it. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.960 If we did this bet two weeks ago, everybody would 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.560 have said he's in the top yes, yes, so. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:54.520 You got Shoudoor Sanders fifth or higher the over under 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.800 five and a half. The bet is who has he 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.840 will go within the Paulie has shudor going top five, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:09.919 So the over under five and a half. If I 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.360 made you guys bet on it, what would you take? 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.359 I would take the six six six. Oh yeah, yeah 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.879 I could. I could talk myself into jumping in on that. Marvin, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.560 what about you? Yeah I could too, Paul Fritzi, Yeah, 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.960 six plus yeah, all right, I like it. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:26.440 Good times. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:28.800 Well, we we have to have one of these bets 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.360 every draft. What was the one we had last year? 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:39.080 Was it? Uh? Didn't didn't? Wasn't there a bet top 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:44.280 fifteen pick or dang Kenny Pickett? I think was a 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.840 few years ago that we did that one. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.639 Yeah, Paul, he definitely did a number of quarterbacks in 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.760 round one last year. I think we had four and 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:55.960 a half or five and a half. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.200 Oh man checking. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.800 Okay, all right, let's let me take a break here, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.320 let me take a break. 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