1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we are 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: rolling through the final day of the week. And what 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: a week it has been. It began with Trump raising 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: his right hand live on the air. You were able 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: to hear it with all of us as Trump was 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: sworn in as the forty seventh president of the United States, 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and he has been a whirlwind bringing change and sanity 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to the United States. In a hurry, we're going to 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: break down the week that was. Buck is in Las Vegas. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: We've been all over the country in DC for the inauguration. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Bucks out in Vegas, I'm back in Tennessee. A lot 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: to get into, but one of the things that stands 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: out Buck is Trump, uniquely, I believe, is delivering on 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: exactly what he told the American public he would do. 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: He has come in. He has effectively shut down the border. 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: We have almost no one crossing illegally. He has begun 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: the process of deporting violent criminals who should have never 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: been here, that were already in this country illegally. That 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: process is significantly underway. He has served notice that discrimination 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: based on race, whatever its motive, is not going to 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: be permitted inside of the federal government. He has announced 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: that anybody we haven't talked about this a lot, but 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: he's announced that anybody who got the COVID shot, refused 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to get the COVID shot and was kicked out the 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: military should be brought back and given back pay, which 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of you out there are in that 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: category in the event that you want to come back. 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: He has pardoned all of the Jan six ers. They 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: are all free back out on the streets. And he 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: has now pardoned many pro life activists that many of 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: you out there had believed and we did as well, 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: were treated unfairly by the Joe Biden Department of Justice. 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Trump's retribution has been swift, it has, in my opinion, 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: been just, and it is just beginning, okay now. Also, 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: those are all big issues that have gone on, other 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: things buck that I don't even think are particularly partisan 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: in nature for my entire life. People have said, when 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: are we going to get the full JFK, the full RFK, 40 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: the full MLK government files released? Why are these still classified? 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: And uh? 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: And Trump said, I'll release them. And yesterday guess what, 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: he announced that they're going to be released. I want 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: to dive into this because I think it's fascinating. I 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: think many of you have strong takes on this as well. 46 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two two two eight A two. But 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: here was Trump yesterday announcing, Hey, I'm declassifying those three 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: files nineteen sixty three JFK assassinated sixty eight, MLK and RFK. Listen, 49 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: we have. 50 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: An executive order ordering the declassification of files relating to 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: and Reverend doctor Martin Luther King June. 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: That's a big one, huh. 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: A lot of people are waiting for this for long, 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: for years, for decades, and everything will be revealed. 56 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Okay, give that RFK service. 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Okay said give that to RFK Junior the pen that 58 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: he signed it with, because this obviously matters a great 59 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: deal to RFK Junior. If you can well imagine his 60 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: dad assassinated nineteen sixty eight. What do we actually know 61 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: about all this? Okay, but you were an agent in 62 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the CIA. 63 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: Technically were to say, we say officer, but. 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Officer an officer in the CIA, I would bet that 65 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: many of you out there who are listening to us 66 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: are somewhat like me, maybe a little bit like Buck. 67 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: If I were president, I would want to read these files. 68 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: I would also want to read UFO files. There are 69 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: lots of things that you would talk about sitting around 70 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: with your buddies. Now, with that in mind, will we 71 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: and I put up a poll about this. By the way, 72 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I'll retweet it, allow you guys to vote, But there's 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty. Will we learn anything particularly historically significant, 74 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: surprising in a way that would change what has been 75 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 1: in the public domain for some time associated with these 76 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: three files? In your mind, Buck, what do you think? 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 5: I'm kind of a wampwomp on this one, all right, wompomp. 78 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: Just going to destroy all of the conspiracy theories, all 79 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: of the excitement. You just believe. There is nothing that's 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna make you say mmm in these in these files. 81 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 5: Here's here's what I will say. Other than telling you 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: that the wamp wamp button needs to be hit, things 83 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 5: that are fascinating and earth shattering are almost impossible to 84 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: keep secret within our government. There are things that can 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 5: be kept secret, but I'm saying things that would be 86 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, that's the craziest. Remember the end of 87 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 5: the movie The Rock, which is preposterous but amazing at 88 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: the same time, like it's a ridiculously we've. 89 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Forgotten Alcatraz is the is the focal point. It is 90 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: a fantastic action adventure movie from what like ninety six 91 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: or something ninety. 92 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 5: Six Sean Connery, Nick Cage, VX gas missiles holding San 93 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Francisco hostage. 94 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 95 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: I mean, if you think about it, the whole movie's bonkers, 96 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 5: but very entertaining. At the end of that, Nicholas Cage 97 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 5: finds the microfilm in a church somewhere and says, you 98 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: want to know kill JFK. And it's like a fun 99 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: way to It's a fun way to, you know, end 100 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 5: the movie. We're not going to find the microfilm, That's 101 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Unfortunately, that was good. 102 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: There is no there is no like smoking bomb or 103 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: whatever you would say, like that is the essence of 104 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: a conspiracy that is going to be revealed in your 105 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: mind in these files. 106 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes, the likeliest thing. 107 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: I mean because I know of things and now everyone 108 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 5: does that the government wanted very much to keep secret, 109 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 5: for example in the War on Terror, and always it always, 110 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: somehow found its way to the front page of the 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 5: Washington Post and or the New York Times. Right, So 112 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: it's very hard to keep really interesting important things secret 113 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 5: because people who know, you know, these are human beings, 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: and someone wants to squeal or wants to talk. 115 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: So that's that's one aspect of this. 116 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: Another one is this government generally when it abuses its 117 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 5: overclassification authority or when it overclassifies, it's usually because of embarrassment. 118 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: It's not because, oh, this is so interesting and like, 119 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: we can't if anyone knew this, it would change everything. 120 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: It's because, wow, we're a bunch of lazy clowns, and 121 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: if people just knew how much we mess that I 122 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: think you could find in in some aspect of the 123 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: JFK and RFK situation, the federal government surveillance of Martin 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: Luther King. That's interesting. I mean, I know you're pretty 125 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 5: deep on the Martin Luther King stuff. Yeah, let me 126 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 5: say something about this. Look, I love the history. You 127 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: guys know that I'm a history nerd. 128 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: If you are at all interested in the civil rights movement, 129 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Taylor Branch wrote a trilogy about the history of the 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: civil rights movement, starting with you know nineteen fifties MLK 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: in Montgomery, Alabama, with the bus boycotts and everything else 132 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: and running all the way through his assassination, he got 133 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: access to a lot of this stuff. I'm stunned by 134 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: how little of it is out in the public domain. 135 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: And I'll just give you an example. A lot of 136 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: it is very salacious. Martin Luther King was not a 137 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: faithful husband. He was sleeping with basically women everywhere buck 138 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: On the day that he was assassinated at the Lorraine 139 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Motel in Memphis, there was a woman that he had 140 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: just slept with that was not his wife in the 141 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: hotel room, and they had to figure out how to 142 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: sneak her out so his wife wouldn't know even on 143 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: the day that he was assassinated. Now that's salacious in nature. 144 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: There are also a lot of allegations that MLK was 145 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: involved in a lot of sexual potentially borderline conduct in 146 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: terms of allegations of sexual ass all these things. He's 147 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: on tape, though, like they had his room bugged, and 148 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the FBI basically knew everything that MLK did for like 149 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years. I don't know how much of this is 150 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: going to come out. I don't know how much of 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: it is going to be a part of the larger story. 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: And let's also point out JFK that Secret Service would 153 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: rush teenage girls in and out of the White House 154 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: based on when Jackie Kennedy was on trips or not, 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and they were like on the phone, like, hey, she's landed. 156 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: We got to get the nineteen year old who's naked out. 157 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: These are true stories out of the White House pool 158 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: because Jackie Oh is about to be back. Like, the 159 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: stuff that these guys were into compared to what we 160 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: talk about now with guys is like stratospheric, not like 161 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: who killed them, but just they were reckless in their 162 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: sexual pursuits in a way that even modern day people 163 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you would be like, Wow, those guys were into some stuff. 164 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: Well, this is where I think you will see in 165 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: these because we're told that the President's declassifyed them. 166 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Right. 167 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: So that's one of the the things I wonder about 168 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: is what you're talking about. How much of it is 169 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: just going to be pure scandal that they haven't released, right, And. 170 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 5: I think that it's going to make the government look bad, 171 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: and that's why the government has kept it. That's different 172 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 5: than the government was involved in like the deep state 173 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: was involved in assassinating a US president for example. I've 174 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: never been somebody who was deeply fascinated in the way 175 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: that many are by the JFK assassination. I know that 176 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 5: that's a huge you know, for some people, it's kind 177 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: of the ultimate American conspiracy. You're not going to find 178 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: a smoking gun coming out of these files, in my opinion. 179 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: If I'm wrong, I'll come out and say I'm wrong. 180 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: But what you will find are two things embarrassing. Stuff 181 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: embarrassing I would also put out there for maybe for 182 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: the icons as well as for the government right, certainly 183 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: for Martin Luther King Junior, and for JFK, who was 184 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: a bit of a maniac in some ways, as we 185 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: were just discussing. 186 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: And then you also have I. 187 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: Think people who are going to see they're gonna the 188 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: people that really believe in the deep conspiracies here will 189 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 5: seize upon some aspect of what's released in the files. 190 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna get slammed, like you're CIA. I can't 191 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: trust you. I haven't been CIA in a decade. You know. 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 5: It's like tracking terrorists overseas for a few years. You know, 193 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 5: they didn't read they didn't read me into. 194 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Like the Builderberg Society or anything. 195 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: Give me a break, let me let me ask you this, 196 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: and then we'll go to break here in a sec 197 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in terms 198 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: of all of the shots came from the school book depository? 199 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: He was a lone gunman? And do you think I 200 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: believe it was Sir Hines Surhan was the killer of 201 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: RFK if I'm remembering correctly in the California back Kitchen 202 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: the Ambassador Hotel? Am I getting all that right? As 203 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: a history nerd? Do you believe that Sirhan Sirhan was 204 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: a lone gunman as well on RFK? Should I tease 205 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: that and let you answer as a former CIA officer 206 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: when we return, because I'll give you my take on 207 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: the flip side. But I'm curious. That's the number one question, 208 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: and I think most people have associated with both of those. 209 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: And by the way, do you think James Earl Ray 210 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: acted alone? Most people don't want to believe that one guy, 211 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: and obviously guys in this case, one man could take 212 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: down someone as powerful and prominent as MLK JFK RFK 213 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: by himself. Although we almost saw that happen in Butler, PA. 214 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: It appears just on July thirteenth, you. 215 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: Know, And I'll answer I'll answer this in a moment. 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Apparently you should go check out 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: what they have on the site. Bearcreekarsenal dot com is 237 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 5: the website. Make sure when you're there you sign up 238 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: for their newsletter. Again, that's Bearcreekarsenal dot com. 239 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: Saving America, one thought at a time. Clay Travis and 240 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 241 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts. 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 5: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. President Trump wasting no 243 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 5: time this week on a whole range of issues, including 244 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 5: the declassification of documents related to the JFK, RFK and 245 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: MLK assassinations. Clay had asked me before if I believe 246 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: the lone gunman theory. So I'm going to do a 247 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: little bit of throat clearing, a little bit of a 248 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: preamble here. If you look throughout history, there are a 249 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: lot of historical precedents for deranged, enraged, ideologically motivated individuals 250 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: assassinating heads of state, heads of organizations, whatever it may be, right, 251 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: if you look at a lot of the I mean, 252 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: if you were to say, for example, Gavrilo princeships, right, 253 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: the guy who killed Archduke? 254 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Did I get that right off the top of my head? 255 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: There is that I have no idea who the killer 256 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: of arch dude Francis Ferdinand was to start Word War One. 257 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: Yes, gave apprenticeship. No, I nailed it, Yep, gav apprenticeship. 258 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: Now he was a member of a radical group, but 259 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: he you know, so he did it. But I mean 260 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: this was like his He had an opportunity. You know, 261 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: we well know the story, right. They wanted to assassinate him. 262 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 5: They threw a bomb under Ferdinand's car and it didn't 263 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: get him. And then later they pulled in after they 264 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: visited I believe the victims of the bombing in the hospital, 265 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: they pulled into an alley and prince Hip happened to 266 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: be in the alley and. 267 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: Just took the opportunity. 268 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know, now, was he alone ago 269 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: he did it on behalf of this or I should 270 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: say he did it, you know, ideologically motivated by this 271 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: black hand group. And again, sorry if my World War 272 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: One history, you know, I'm doing this all on the 273 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: fly on Love radio. 274 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: But there are plenty of others. 275 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: I mean, the guy who generally it has been anarchists 276 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 5: who have assassinated US presidents. So they're acting on behalf 277 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 5: of an ideology. But there wasn't some grand conspiracy behind them, right, right, 278 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: So that's all to say. I mean, I think the 279 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: guy who killed MLKA was a racist. I think the 280 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: guy who killed JFK was a communist. 281 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know. 282 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 5: I don't see I don't see the mountains of evident 283 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: and everyone because my. 284 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: Version is more boring, right, it's. 285 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: More interesting to say there's a huge conspiracy behind all this. 286 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: So I feel like you think there's a conspiracy, and 287 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 5: never's gonna say Clay's right, there's a huge conspiracy. 288 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Look, I don't So first of all, I put up 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: a poll and you guys can go vote. So I'm curious. 290 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: I said, with the upcoming release of the JFK assassination file, 291 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: do you believe JFK was killed by a lone gunman, 292 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald? Several thousand of you have already voted 293 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: at Clay Travis on Twitter x. Seventy six percent of 294 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: you say no, multiple shooters, twenty four percent of you 295 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: say yes Oswald loan shooter. I'm gonna build on something 296 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you said there, Buck, I think what goes on here 297 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: is and obviously we're talking about this because the classified 298 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: document order release by Trump that was signed yesterday. I 299 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: don't think people want to believe that one lone, relatively 300 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: insignificant person can take the life and fundamentally alter the 301 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: course of history by killing one great and powerful person. 302 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: And I think the same thing as true with what 303 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: happened on July thirteenth in Butler, PA. I don't even 304 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: remember that guy's name. Thankfully, if he had shot and 305 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: killed Trump on that day, buck for the rest of 306 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: the life of everyone listening today, and the lives of 307 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: many people I think who aren't even born yet, because 308 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: you and I were not born. When JFK was killed 309 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: in Dallas in November of sixty three, people would for 310 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: the next one hundred two hundred years be arguing there's 311 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: no way that, let's call it, frankly, kind of random, lunatic, loaner, 312 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: loser who showed up in Butler, PA was a to 313 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: get on the roof of that house and kill Donald 314 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: Trump by himself. The incompetence that would have been required 315 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: for that to occur is so staggering, and his life 316 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: compared to Trump's is so insignificant. And Trump, obviously they 317 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: were trying to put him in prison for the rest 318 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: of his life at the time this all occurred, no 319 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: one would believe that that one random guy was capable 320 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: of doing what he did, and so the conspiracy theories 321 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: would last for hundreds of years. I have seen the 322 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: data suggesting that Oswald is capable of getting all those 323 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: shots off. I think the innate American experience is there's 324 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: no way that one random guy on the top floor 325 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: of the Texas school Book Depository was able to alter 326 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the trajectory of American history in that way. Combine it 327 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: buck with Oswald getting shot by Jack Ruby right after, 328 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and it just feels like something more than one gunman happened. 329 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I feel like Oswald personally was not acting alone. But 330 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to get anything, and 331 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it. I want to read all the revelations. 332 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: I want to read the file. I want to know 333 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: what exactly happened. In the meantime, if you need a 334 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: new cell phone and you want to go and save 335 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot, Curetalk can offer you a bundle of savings 336 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: thanks to a qualifying plan. 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Welcome back in Play, Travis 346 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you, hey, and out 347 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: of to us as we are rolling through the program. 348 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: A lot of different stories out there. Many of you 349 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: want to weigh in. You can weigh in on the 350 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: declassification of those of those things. I agree with Buck, 351 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: by the way, in general that I think a lot 352 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: of what's going to come out is going to be 353 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: scandalous about MLK and JFK in particular, and the surveillance 354 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: for sure that MLK was under and I think it's 355 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: going to cause a re calibration maybe of his public assessment. 356 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: And let me just say this, because this is one 357 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: of the things that you learn about history and why 358 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: I wish this nation was not so historically illiterate lots 359 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: of people who do great things throughout all of history 360 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: also have really great flaws. And one of the things 361 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: that has been so awful I think about the woke 362 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: industrial complex examination of a Manmerican history has been the 363 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: idea of ceilings and floors. In my mind, buck to me, 364 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: for history, you want to focus more on the great 365 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: things that people did that have advanced lives for many 366 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: than the sordid things that they did. Doesn't mean you 367 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that people have flaws, but when you solely 368 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: focus on the flaw, and I'll give you an example, 369 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson, kind of a genius, did an awful lot 370 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: of pretty good things, may also have slept with a 371 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: slave based on the evidence, and fathered children with her. 372 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the Declaration of Independence isn't an incredible art. 373 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that buying the Louisiana purchase was an 374 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: incredible stroke of genius. It doesn't mean that Jefferson wasn't 375 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: an amazing polymath who had so much talent in so 376 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: many different fields. But he also had a flaw, very. 377 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 5: Wrong on the French Revolution too, just putting that, as 378 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: you know, he missed that one by a mile. 379 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. 380 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: He was the former ambassador to France alongside. 381 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: You'd think that he'd know more about what's going on 382 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: in France. 383 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Alongside Benjamin Franklin. One of the great untold stories to 384 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: a large extent of history is the degree to which 385 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: their lobbying got France to come in on the side 386 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: of the colonies and help us to defeat the British. 387 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't hear much talked about now, but when we 388 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: trapped Cornwallace at Yorktown, the reason we were to a 389 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: large extent able to do that was because there was 390 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: a French fleet off the shore in Virginia that was 391 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: helping us to defeat the British. 392 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: Memorably depicted in Mel Gibson's The Patriots. 393 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the movie, he. 394 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: Talks about the arrival of our friends, the French, and 395 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: that guy who's the French actor who plays the French 396 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: guy in everything is like, we are here finally to 397 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 5: take the British away from you. 398 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. 399 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Gerard Deperdeaux is he? 400 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: You know? 401 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 5: Pat was the jar Deffert the other It's like the 402 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: poor man's gard dip part dude, I don't even know. 403 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: Is like, who would he be? He's like the before 404 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: de Niro went crazy. He's like the de Niro or 405 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: the al Pacino of French cinema. Like he's kind of 406 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: in everything long career? Is that fair? 407 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 6: Like? 408 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Who would you analogize him to Harrison Ford? I don't know. 409 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 5: I think he used the French Harrison Ford. What is 410 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: happening on the Clay and Buck Show today? 411 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, I told you that I took 412 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: German and Russian cinema. I don't know that. People expected 413 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: they were going to turn it to an end today 414 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: and we were going to go from JFK to who 415 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: is the who is the uh French version of your 416 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: American version of Gerard Deberdeaux. But we won because the 417 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: French were off there on the coast. And my point 418 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: on it in general is they reveal some of these 419 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: things from the classified docs file. You're gonna find out, 420 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: oh for people who don't know. JFK and MLK were 421 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: into some stuff. And I think Correta Scott King is 422 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: still alive, isn't she? Am I wrong about that? 423 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 5: Yes, here's the thing about classified information. This is what 424 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 5: I was getting to before as somebody who used to 425 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 5: handle and see a lot of classified information. Now the 426 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: sensitive stuff that I used to see was very much 427 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 5: about tactical anti terrorism or counter terrorism stuff or rock Afghanistan, 428 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: you know, And now that stuff is all. 429 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: We either got the bad guy or we didn't, and 430 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: that stuff is as largely passed. Uh and is we 431 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: know all the really cool stuff is known? 432 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: But Clay, when if these files, if anyone has had 433 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 5: access to these files for that long, and there was 434 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: anything that interesting in the files, somebody would have sat 435 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 5: down with a podcaster and said, I have seen what's it? 436 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: Because no one's going to prison for saying what's in 437 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: the JFK files. Okay, that's not happening. 438 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: You violated the JFK. 439 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: You know that's not People say, oh, yes, the deep 440 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: state will there is a deep state, but it shouldn't be. 441 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: It's mostly. 442 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: Dishonest, left wing, lethargic and incompetent. It's not this super 443 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: brain that can do anything that it wants and can 444 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: get anything done. 445 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: If it was, would Donald Trump be president? Everybody? 446 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 5: Now, I know they threw everything at him, but I'm saying, 447 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: you know, the deep state is not some unstoppable force obviously. 448 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: So if there was really interesting stuff in the files, 449 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 5: I just think somebody would have come forward and said, 450 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: I've seen it and here's what's in it. 451 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: But you don't think a former president would say, hey. 452 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: Guys, we actually know who killed JFK, Like if you 453 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 5: were there, if President Clay, it's kind of a ring 454 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 5: to it doesn't. 455 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: If President Clay, we were able to. 456 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: See a lot of cleavage at that inaugural event, I bet, 457 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: by the way, just saying. 458 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I could you know. 459 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if the First Amendment moves is going 460 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: to be a campaign slogan of the future, but I 461 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 5: can't say it's not. So if you saw that stuff, 462 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: I just don't think anybody as president would be able 463 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: to tell you that you're not going to talk about 464 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: that public. But it's way I feel about UFOs too. 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: Elon and I agree on UFOs. If there's real UFO stuff, 466 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: just show me or just just prove it to me. 467 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: Stop talking about how it's Oh, there's all this evidence, 468 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: but I can't show you any actual evidence. So see again. 469 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: Bring out the wampwomp button. I'm going I'm already getting 470 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: lit up by the way, Oh, we don't know about this, 471 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 5: or you don't know about that? 472 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, please speaking of a wampwomp. Evidently, Kretta Scott 473 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: King died almost twenty years ago. According to the staff, 474 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: it's better that I said that she was still alive, 475 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: then she's dead, and she's actually alive in the extent, 476 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: but rest in peace, Coretta Scott King. I thought she 477 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: was still alive. I know the kids, many of them 478 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: are still alive. And the reason why I thought she 479 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: was still alive is MLK wouldn't be that old if 480 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: he were if he had not, Let's presume that he 481 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: was still alive. He was relatively young man when he 482 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: was assassinated in nineteen sixty eight. I mean, he wasn't 483 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: that old of a guy, so he could MLK still 484 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: be alive. And I mean he's younger than Jimmy Carter. 485 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: For instance. 486 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: Which of these releases do you think is going to 487 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: be MLK, RFKJFK most if one of them is going 488 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: to have something that you go, oh, wow, Buck was wrong? 489 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: Which would be sad? Which one would it be? 490 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: MLK? 491 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: You think? MKA? 492 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I think, well, here's why I think the government surveillance 493 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: of MLK is more embarrassing to the government, which is 494 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: why I think they would be more likely to have 495 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: classified more of the MLK file than the JFK or 496 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: RFK file. People don't realize, you know this j Edgar Hoover, 497 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: the amount of information that he was collecting in his tenure. 498 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: How long was he the head of the FBI forty years. 499 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: I mean you look at his career. The amount of 500 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: dirt that Jay Edgar Hoover basically had on any one 501 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: of any power and prestige and influence in America from 502 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: nineteen forty to nineteen seventy five, I mean, I think 503 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: that's basically the range of when his power would have 504 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: been at its apex is extraordinary. So the surveillance of 505 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: m I'm not sure was very legal. I think certainly 506 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: was to a level that would shame much of the 507 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: existing FBI. And that's why I think it's fought. His 508 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: file is likely to have been the most extensively classified 509 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: and edited to try to protect what the FBI did, 510 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: whereas I think JFK and RFK. Remember RFK and Jaegar 511 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: Hoover were kind of at each other's throats because RFK 512 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: was the Attorney General Jagger Hoover is trying to get 513 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: the dirt on the Kennedy family because he wants to 514 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: have some power and control over them. And Jaigar Hoover's 515 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: position is presidents come and go. I'm here right like, 516 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll deal with I mean, he's a little bit like 517 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: almost a royal in the sense or a senator that's 518 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: going to be around for decades, Like he doesn't worry 519 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: about the eight year term of a president because he 520 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: knows he's going to last way longer than them. 521 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 5: I mean, on the MLK, there's this discussion about ongoing 522 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: debate about was he a communist or was he a socialist? 523 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: He definitely was into social justice, and I think tenets 524 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 5: of socialism and the communism angle or the surveillance of 525 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: Martin Lutheran juniorist as a sympathetic to communism is always 526 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: taken out of the context of the communist penetration. This 527 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 5: is sort of separate from, but related to, the communist 528 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: penetration of the United States government was far more severe 529 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 5: at a far bigger threat than the Democrat Party then 530 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: and now is willing to discuss and believe and allow 531 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: people to know. And the Communist Party USA was a 532 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 5: real thing, and there were ties to Moscow and the 533 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 5: Soviet Union, you know, just the way you read the history. 534 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: Of Mao and China. 535 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: For example, the entire Chinese Communist Project was effectively a 536 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: laboratory experiment run by the Soviets out of Moscow. The 537 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 5: whole thing was backed, finance directed, and that's now the 538 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: largest country in the world and the largest communist country 539 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 5: in history. So they had a playbook for this stuff. 540 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 5: Now it didn't work in this country, but they were 541 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: trying to do similar things. Go read about the Venona Project, 542 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 5: high level penetrations of the United States government, top secret 543 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 5: military cable intercepts proving this beyond doubt. 544 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Algerr Hits was a spy. There's all this stuff. 545 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: So were they a little too over zealous in their 546 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 5: surveillance of doctor King as a communist or a communist sympathizer? 547 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: Sure? 548 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: But was communism actually a real problem and not some 549 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: you know, make believe ghost in the background. Yeah, it 550 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 5: actually was. So that's my little spiel on that one. 551 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls, a bunch of you 552 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: want to weigh in close out the hour. Also, I'm 553 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna have some fun. Bock's gonna have to hop out 554 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: in the third alve of just FYI so he can 555 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: get back to so he can get back to Miami 556 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: from Vegas. But we have been laughing. We've been talking 557 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: about it off air. The flute memes that you guys 558 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: have created of me that is up on AI. I 559 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: can't even keep up with all of them. We're going 560 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: to have some fun discussing some of that. It's Friday, 561 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: and we'll take some of your calls about MLKJFK RFK 562 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: assassination reports. By the way, if you sign off on that, 563 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: do you think the MLK file might have the most 564 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: interesting and or significant revelations compared to the other files, 565 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: or do you think there's. 566 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: Because of the politics and the government embarrassment around that. 567 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: I think the JFK files are going to be a 568 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: nothing burger. Don't yell at me, everybody, We'll see before 569 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 5: you yell at me. Just remember, I'll remember allo of 570 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 5: you on Twitter yelling at me. And if I'm right, the. 571 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Buckster is coming back for you. 572 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 5: It's real thing, for sure. 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Actually, so you know, there's that, 626 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 5: but that's a good that's a good way to be 627 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 5: out of books. And we've got some callers here. Uh, 628 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 5: you guys want to talk Clay, look what you've done. 629 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 5: People want to talk JFK. 630 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 2: The Grassy Knoll two shooters. Here we go, David VA. 631 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: What have you got for us? 632 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, congratulations. First of all, bock to your new 633 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 6: upcoming family and on your wedding, and love your show 634 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 6: to thank you so much. JFK. I watched, Yeah, no problem, 635 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 6: God bless you to the point. JFK I saw a 636 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 6: documentary with the pathologists, and they found that there were 637 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 6: small holes in the front of his head and a 638 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 6: large blowout in the back. Now I don't know what 639 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 6: that means, if there were someone in front of him 640 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 6: or not, but they found that that's what they saw. 641 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 6: That's what they did on the autopsy. Entry wounds looking 642 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 6: like coming from the front, blowout in the back. You're 643 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: a you know you you work with firearms, you you 644 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 6: know that as well. The entry port would be small 645 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 6: and the large blowout in the back. To them, they 646 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: thought it came from in front of him, but who knows. 647 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 6: That's my point. 648 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to pass this to conspiracy theorists. Clay over here. Clay, 649 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 2: was it the Grassy Knoll? What happened? 650 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: So here's the challenge in general. I think it's been 651 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: so long and they have like didn't they just I 652 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: know they did because I remember we may have mentioned 653 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: it on this show. One of the Secret Service agents 654 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: that was there running behind the convertible after the shooting 655 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: said that he put a bullet on the Do you 656 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: remember reading about this? It came out? Okay, this just 657 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: happened in the last year, And I know I'm not 658 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: crazy about this. He said that he had pulled out 659 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: a bullet fragment that he had found and he just 660 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: randomly put it on the tray where JFK was going 661 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: in and out. My point on this is it makes 662 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: the ballistics and or the analysis and the autopsies associated 663 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: with this incredibly difficult to actually determine because we're still 664 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: getting more information about where the bullets were, how they 665 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: were discovered. You remember they basically said, oh, we didn't 666 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: find this bullet fragment until after the shooting. It was 667 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: on the tray that they brought JFK into the hospital on. 668 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: But this guy, this secret Service agent who was there, 669 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: said he took it from the vehicle and then put 670 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: it on the So the trajectories of the bullets, I 671 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: think is a mess. 672 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 5: You know, guys, I'm telling you get let's just what 673 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: are the documents to be released soon? 674 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: Right? Get ready for the worst seventh button. 675 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: I think is when they're supposed to be by the way, 676 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: what do you think they'll even get released. Is somebody 677 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: in deep government gonna come out and say no, we're 678 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: not going to release them. Because I still feel like 679 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: that could happen. 680 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 5: The conspiracy podcasts will go to the Moon if Trump 681 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 5: gets overruled somehow on. 682 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: This issue, so no doubt. 683 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen, but what do 684 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 2: I know.