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Speaker 1: way Wait a minute, I'm just I runs ends. Hey boo,

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Speaker 1: it's me Roz.

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Speaker 2: I don't have much to say in this intro today,

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Speaker 2: but I am so excited for you to hear this conversation.

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Speaker 2: There's this Instagram account that I've been following for a

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Speaker 2: little while now, and I know that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that listen to this podcast follow it, and so

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Speaker 2: I reached out and got the person that runs it.

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Speaker 2: On the show, that instagram is called at Haunted dot

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Speaker 2: Historian and the person that runs it is named Gossiel

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Speaker 2: and Connor is a paranormal investigator. Turns out we got

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Speaker 2: some stories, and as I kind of teased last week,

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Speaker 2: I wait till the end of this conversation because it's

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Speaker 2: one of the most frightening stories. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: but it just got me. Connor can tell a story,

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Speaker 2: so it's a good one. I like this conversation a lot,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you will as well. And as always,

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Speaker 2: if you want a little extra go over to Patreon.

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Speaker 2: We've got a couple of little clips on there, I

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Speaker 2: took a little bit out of my little rapid Fire

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Speaker 2: Unexplained Paranormal Phenomena section of the show, put some of

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Speaker 2: that on Patreons. So we talk about aliens. Turns out

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Speaker 2: I asked Connor about haunted dolls, one of my favorite topics,

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Speaker 2: and Connor owns multiple haunted dolls, So we talk about that,

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Speaker 2: and we also talk about you have when you see

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Speaker 2: but then it's like it's not, and what do you

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Speaker 2: do in that event? Because if you don't know about

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Speaker 2: this Instagram page, the Haunted Historian, it is so cool.

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Speaker 2: It it's gorgeous photographs of a lot of like obscure

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Speaker 2: haunted places, like places not always your typical haunted places

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Speaker 2: the books. You know, the Haunted Historian really gives you.

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Speaker 2: It exposes you to some kind of unknown haunted places

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Speaker 2: and there's always a great write up about the history

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Speaker 2: that Connor does on the Haunted Historian on Instagram. So again,

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Speaker 2: a Patreon dot Com slash RELs. Dress Flees also a

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Speaker 2: do something that I've been asked to do for a

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Speaker 2: long time now. Listen, I am. I do not claim

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Speaker 1: Don't At this point, I just kind of don't care, and.

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Speaker 2: So I thought we're better to do it than areon.

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Speaker 2: So I put up a two part video. The first

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Speaker 2: of how I transform into rosdres false. So check that

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Speaker 2: out link in the description of this episode and go

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Speaker 2: follow the Haunted Historian on Instagram. All right, here's my

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Speaker 2: conversation with Connor gossel On with the show. I am

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Speaker 2: joined by an instaelebrity today, Connor Gossl aka the Haunted Historian.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Cotter, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little starstruck. I love your Instagram so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm always like in awe of people that are

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Speaker 2: How did you How did you get into this whole

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Speaker 3: I get I get horrified.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. I'm like, over here, all Hollywood like

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Speaker 2: I love talking to people that have been reenacted, you know.

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Speaker 4: more excited to see who they cast to play us than.

440
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: We would the episodes.

441
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 4: But I I had no complaints and my my friend

442
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: didn't either. We just thought it was so wildly ridiculous

443
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: who they who they cast for them?

444
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: But it was. It was a fun experience. It was

445
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: the whole ordeal of filming. It was much.

446
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 4: Longer than I would have thought, but it gives me

447
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 4: some cool insight going forwards, and shows like that get

448
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: made all the time about what the process is, Like.

449
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what's the story?

450
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: Well, we were the first house in our neighborhood to

451
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 4: be constructed, and I want to say the year was

452
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: right around nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven, and where

453
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: was this was in Beaver Creek, Ohio, just just south

454
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: of Dayton down there.

455
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: In like the southwestern portion of the state.

456
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: It was very underdeveloped at that point in time, and

457
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 4: that there were a bunch of forests, bunch of rivers,

458
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: cornfields everywhere. You know, we weren't living in like bf E.

459
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: But it was kind of like the one step above

460
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: there on the wrung. But and this goes, this is

461
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: a I should do better about it. I've never really

462
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: looked into the history, and I think a lot of

463
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: it is because I never really wanted to know the history.

464
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: The one thing I could have guessed about our home

465
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: is that that area of Ohio is at absolutely littered

466
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 4: in Indian mounds, and we lived surrounded by forests and

467
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 4: corn fields and everything of that nature. So that's always

468
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: what I kind of, you know, appeased my mind by saying,

469
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: was just, you know what, we were probably pretty close

470
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: to a mound or something, and things were acting up

471
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: inside of our house, and as more houses got built,

472
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: the activity stopped in our house.

473
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: For the most part.

474
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 4: It was really kind of just all the way up

475
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: till I was thirteen years old, and it was everything

476
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 4: from uh, to give you two specific occurrences, my oldest

477
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: brother wakes up one day and he comes down to

478
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: the breakfast table and he's like, hey, Shane, Shane is

479
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 4: my brother, and he asked my brother, Shane, were you

480
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 4: standing in my room last night? And Shane, because Shane

481
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: had a kind of this like history of sleepwalking, and

482
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: he's like, no, I was, Actually I was two hours

483
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: past you last night. I was not walking around and

484
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: I could verify that because I slept in this in

485
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: the same room as Shane, and so Colin's like, huh.

486
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 4: I like woke up and I thought it was all

487
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: like this like weird, gray, misty figure of you just

488
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: standing in front of my bed, and we kind of laughed.

489
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: But I had some experiences. I didn't really like hold

490
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: it against him. I didn't really I didn't say anything,

491
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: but I didn't hold it against them. And like one month,

492
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: one month later, I'm in the bunk bed that Shane

493
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: and I shared and I wake up and I think

494
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 4: Shane is standing in front of my bed and I

495
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 4: kind of start talking, like Shane, what are you doing?

496
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: Are you sleepwalking? And it had the same look that

497
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: Colin had described, very gray, very misty, and I'm kind

498
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: of like getting out from under my sheets, like seeing

499
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 4: if he's okay. And as I'm getting out, I like,

500
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 4: I hear Shane on the top bunk of the bed

501
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: kind of roll over, like okay, why are you getting up?

502
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: And I look back to the edge of the bed and.

503
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: It's just gone now, I will say in the reenactment.

504
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: In the episode, they decided to make it into this

505
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: like gray cloaked demonic entity crawling out from under my

506
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: bed and trying to like drag me under or something.

507
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: And I saw that I just like, Okay, well, I

508
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 4: can't send this to my family now.

509
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: That thing that I was like out there, just like

510
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: our house was possessed by the devil.

511
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 4: It was the darkest thing that ever was I think,

512
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: the creepiest thing that ever happened in the home. And

513
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: it was completely benign, nothing wrong with it. I think

514
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: from the ages of twelve to fifteen, the ages of

515
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: twelve to fifteen, I had my own room at this point,

516
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: every single night, or at least every other night, I

517
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: would lay down in bed, the lights in the hallway

518
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: would still be on. Being the younger brother, I went

519
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: to bed kind of yusually before everybody else, and the

520
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 4: lights would usually stay on or they'd click off, but

521
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: I would usually hear the footsteps at the very least

522
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: of my parents coming out the stairs and going to

523
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: bed once everybody was passed out and where they're supposed

524
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: to be, and then my mother would come into my

525
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: room and she would sit down on the edge of

526
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: my bed and she would kind of just rub my

527
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: back or you know, jostle my hair or something, or

528
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 4: just like sit there like pat my leg. And I

529
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: was never really asleep. I had terrible sleep problems as

530
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: a child that you have to in an hour or

531
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: two to pass out, So I was usually awake, but

532
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: being like a twelve fifteen year old, I'm acting like

533
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm passed out. And years later, years down

534
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 4: the road, I cannot remember the context that came up

535
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 4: in but I asked my mother around my brother's one

536
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: time that where I just mentioned her coming into my

537
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: room and sitting down and doing that for years. I

538
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: think I was saying something along the lines like, you know,

539
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: I was really sweet if you'd always come in there

540
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: and check on me and you'd stay in there for

541
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: like fifteen forty five minutes, like that was you know, it.

542
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Was already know where this is going, and I don't

543
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: like it.

544
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably thinking it correctly.

545
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: She kind of like laughs, like I remember, like come

546
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: like what she was like drinking water, Like water came

547
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: out of her mouth. But she was like chuckling. She's like,

548
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: why in the hell would I go into my grown

549
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: son's room all three of you and there and pat

550
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: you guys for forty five minutes every single night, And

551
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 4: we all just kind of looked at each other because

552
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: they had experienced that sometimes, but it happened to me

553
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: almost every single night, and she swore up and down,

554
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: She's like, I can tell you without you know, a

555
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: shrapnel of doubt, I never came into your room and

556
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: did that. So for three years in my life, that

557
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: was where it was happening. And the only thing I've

558
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: ever been able to think about is that that is

559
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: the room where my grandma would stay when she had visited,

560
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: and kind of right when it started is when she

561
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: passed away. So I'm pretty sure that she was visiting

562
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: that room for years in the afterlife where she would

563
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: always stay at our house when she came to Ohio,

564
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: and just I guess since I was there in her

565
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: old room just doing that. But my mom was just like,

566
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: you were asleep. You probably were having a dream. I'm

567
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 4: like the same dream every night for three years. I

568
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: was wide awake, my eyes were open. Sometimes I felt

569
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: the indentation on the bed. Like it's enough for me

570
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: to now, ten years later, sit here and talk to

571
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: you about it wasn't a dream.

572
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: This happens so much. Oh.

573
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: I love how you thought that your mom was being

574
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: all sweet to you and she's like, hmm, now.

575
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: You thought wrong, That's not what I'm doing.

576
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That is so like, I mean scary.

577
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: I dealt with grandma stuff ghost stuff too as a kid,

578
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: and it's like it's just like a weird thing where

579
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, it's not like scary because it's my grandma,

580
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, it's something.

581
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: I still don't want to turn around and see anybody's ghost.

582
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't care who it.

583
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Is, right exactly.

584
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: So, when you said that your parents kind of like

585
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: denied it or whatever, I mean, did it come out

586
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: that they did have their own experiences?

587
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing specific ever came out. It's nothing, nothing ever

588
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: came out from my father. My mother was more so

589
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: just kind of willing to concede, like without saying any

590
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: details of her own, like, you know what, it's possible,

591
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: you know what, that that house was weird. Sometimes I'll

592
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: admit it like this or that, And I never really

593
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: pushed her for it. She's a very a very religious woman,

594
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily turn a blind eye to that topic matter,

595
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: but it's not anything she likes to talk about. So

596
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna sit there like poking and poking like no,

597
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: tell me, no, tell me. Maybe she will one day,

598
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: but it's sounding like my my brothers and I got

599
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: the worst of it.

600
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: So when did you start investigating?

601
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: I started investigating beginning of my junior year in high school,

602
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: and the Beaver Creek was just starting to get some

603
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: normal town stuff like a Chipotle and a bowling alley

604
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But I know, exciting times, but

605
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: it was still a very a very small town, and

606
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: we were all kind of just thinking, you know, what

607
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: can we do that's out there a little different than

608
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: this weekend than what we typically do. And oddly enough,

609
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: we all separately watched ghost adventures or ghost hunters and

610
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: shows like that, and we're like, you know what, let's

611
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: venture somewhere. Let's through some research and find a spot

612
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: that we want to go to. And admittedly, when we

613
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 4: first did it, well, when we first did it, there

614
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: were twelve of us. Now there's just three. But when

615
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: we first did it, it was more of a novelty.

616
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: It was something cool, something cool to talk about.

617
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: You know.

618
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: Road trips are always half the fun, and being in

619
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: high school, that was a big deal to us, driving

620
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: like four and a half hours up to Newcastle, Pennsylvania

621
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: to Hillview Manor. And after that night, you know, it

622
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: stopped being a novelty and started being a passion.

623
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: And three out of the twelve of us just kept

624
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: at it.

625
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: And I think at this point one of the three

626
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: mainly helps out with research, but there are two of

627
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: us that really just kind of go all around the

628
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: US doing this stuff.

629
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Wow, So how much do you do it these days?

630
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: These days?

631
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: I do it for I guess three reasons list of

632
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: in a hierarchy. The most common reason I'm going out

633
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: and doing an investigation is because a friend of mine

634
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: who follows the page. I'm not not a single friend,

635
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: but numerous friends who follow the page. If I'm back

636
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: in Ohio or here in Scottsdale, where I currently live

637
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, that's such a cool page, you

638
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: should take me out sometime, and I'm never gonna turn

639
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: them down, Like, yeah, by all means, let's go to

640
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: some place. And so I'll usually just go to not

641
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: a random place, but a well known place. So I'm

642
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: back in Ohio, we'll go to the Gillhouse, or we'll

643
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: go to Bobby Mackie that's like forty five minutes down

644
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: the road.

645
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: That place seems freaky, it.

646
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: Is, and oddly enough, being so close to it what

647
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: was considered one of those haunted places in the country.

648
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: I think it took six years in my paranormal career

649
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: to actually realize just how close it was. I knew

650
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: it was in Kentucky, but I didn't know Wilder was

651
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: literally like on the border of Ohio and was like

652
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: forty five minutes away, and I just kind of like

653
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: hit myself in the head, like gosh, I could have

654
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: been going there for years now, but oh well. The

655
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: second reason is because I am scouting a location to

656
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: help a place begin doing paranormal investigations and figuring out

657
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: what that marketing is going to require. And the third reason,

658
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: which is the far more rare reason for going, is

659
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: typically I've found a spot that I've never heard of before.

660
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: I can't find anything about it, but I want to

661
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: go there. I want to investigate it, I want to

662
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: cover it, and I want to shoot.

663
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: A video on it.

664
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: I think the last time I did that was Beach

665
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: Army Hospital, like ten months ago. But I have this

666
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: one spot that I'm actually getting ready to go to.

667
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to mess up its name either. I

668
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 4: have it listed here in my notes amongst a very

669
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: expansive list of places that I'm trying to get to,

670
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: the Johnson County Poor Farm and Asylum in Iowa.

671
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: It is.

672
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: I know a lot of places are called poor farms.

673
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: This place is literally a farm and they have old

674
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: barns littered all across the property that, if you actually

675
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: step foot inside, were refurbished like a century ago to

676
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: be cages, and I guess a makeshift prison for the

677
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 4: asylum patients that they had coming in there. And this

678
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 4: place has no online reputability or reputation, but I don't

679
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: even know that it's haunted. But I'm going out there

680
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: after talking with the property owners to check this place out.

681
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: And they had some cool shares, some cool stories to

682
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: share and see if this is a place that people

683
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: should start paying attention to because as far as asylums go,

684
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: I've never seen one like this.

685
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: Have you been to La at all to do any

686
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: ghosty stuff?

687
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: Uh, I've been to San Diego.

688
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 4: I have a brother who lives in LA, my older brother, Colin,

689
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: But I have not been there just yet. There are

690
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: a number of places I want to go to there,

691
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 4: but La being you know, it's expansive, but it's condensed

692
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 4: at the same time, very high population area. A lot

693
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: of the locations there it's hard to get sole access to,

694
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: or a lot of them wouldn't stay open later for

695
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 4: any degree of an investigation unless you have like a

696
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: you know, the budget of a network show behind you.

697
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: So see, that's the thing with LA.

698
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: It's like so many of these places know about like

699
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: charging people to rent, you know, for filming locations and

700
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: stuff that it's like, we're not going to be fooled,

701
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: Like here, we need money, we need the insurance. Like yeah,

702
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: it's a whole thing.

703
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's difficult, but I would love to. I'd love

704
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: to come out there and do an investigation.

705
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: I got. I know.

706
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: La is where a big so the Hana Historian followers

707
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: are from and also because I would love to take

708
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: my brother out investigation.

709
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: He is a huge skeptic, which doesn't bother me.

710
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: It just makes me very adamant and wanting to show him,

711
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: you know, kind of a you know, walk a mile

712
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: in my shoes, see the things that I've seen over

713
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: the course of the past, you know, ten twelve years

714
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: of these locations, and you wouldn't have a doubt in

715
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: your mind that I really want to.

716
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: I really want to give him that chance to see

717
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 3: some of this stuff.

718
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: But he never had any of the like Gray mist at.

719
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: Me did he was.

720
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: He was the first one to have that, And to

721
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 4: be honest, I couldn't tell you why. He doesn't really

722
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: have any belief in it. He's one of those guys

723
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: that a ghost could walk up right in front of

724
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: him and slap him across the face and then just

725
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: dissipate into the air, and he'd look around and like

726
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: you know, recoop gather himself like ah right, all right,

727
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 4: a weird wind phenomena, and then just go about his day.

728
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: See that's the thing that's I'm saying, Like there's so

729
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: many places out here that like those kinds of people

730
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: just live in and you'll just never know that they're

731
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: haunted until they move out and someone like me that's

732
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 2: a loud mouth and wants to like tell the whole

733
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: world about how interesting it is, then they'll know. But

734
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: until then, you know, these these poor ghosts are not

735
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 2: getting the exposure.

736
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: They're not exactly And that's why I think, I think

737
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: one of the things that bothers me most about some shows.

738
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: There are great teams on TV. They all go in.

739
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: To the owners or the people who have been there

740
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: and are running it or visited and visited it and

741
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: been haunted by it by it in the past, and

742
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: they do it under the auspice saying we're gonna solve this,

743
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna figure it out, we're gonna give a voice

744
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: to these ghosts, and we're gonna like take care of

745
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: this haunting and we're gonna bring peace to the living

746
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: at this location. And every single one of them will

747
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: walk on in there, they'll hear an EVP, absolutely lose

748
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: their shit, run into the next room, and then the

749
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: episode ends and it'll just pan out in some aerial

750
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: shot of the location. Like we can say without a

751
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: shadow of a doubt that you know X location is

752
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: haunted onto the next one, and it's like, you guys

753
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: didn't do anything well.

754
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: But then then the next season of the next TV

755
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: show can go in there because the ghosts are still hanging.

756
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: Out exactly exactly.

757
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 4: And you know, I have some contact with a lot

758
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: of people on these shows. They're all great people, They're

759
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: all good investigators. You know, a lot of it, a

760
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: lot of it is just luck, you know. I I

761
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: talk to some people who will reach out to the

762
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: page wanting to know how to be an investigator. I'll

763
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: tell them you can be an investigator just sitting on

764
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: your couch and watching these shows, like, but they want

765
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: to get out there.

766
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: They're like, we want to be a great investigator like you.

767
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: And I'm like, it is very likely that you could

768
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: be a better investigator than me in like half an hour.

769
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: Like anybody will ask the same questions, everybody will use

770
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: the same equipment, everybody will recount the history at the

771
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: end of the day. You know, it's kind of like poker.

772
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 4: It's just it's the cards that you're dealt Like something's

773
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: gonna happen that night.

774
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: Something's not to.

775
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: Say anybody's better than anybody is just uh, it's not true.

776
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: Everybody can be an investigator, and there's literally just no

777
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: hierarchy to it.

778
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Everyone's in the same playing field.

779
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: I just always think about how much time, Like it's

780
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: you can't always find stuff in a day and a

781
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: half for two days, like it's just a matter of

782
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: how the ghosts are feeling that day or whatever exactly.

783
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's funny you say that, because

784
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: you know one thing, I would love to give my

785
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: two cents a very opinionated guy. If you haven't, if

786
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: you haven't heard figured.

787
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: That out already, give it to us.

788
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: One of the uh, one of the reasons we look

789
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: for places that haven't been the investigator, haven't been opened

790
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: to the public before, is because I'm a big believer

791
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: in spiritual fatigue. You know, if we're operating under the

792
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: assumption that a location could potentially have an intelligent haunting,

793
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: then you got to kind of think of those people

794
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 4: as just obviously just human beings in a different realm,

795
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, the same as you or I wouldn't like

796
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: some group of eight people walking into our house or

797
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: walking into wherever we're inhabiting, four or five times a week,

798
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 4: demanding that we touch this or demanding that we say that,

799
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: or that we bang.

800
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: On a wall.

801
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: After a period of time, you just stop listening, you

802
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: just stop doing it. And that's why we look for

803
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: the place that no one's been because they're ripe. The

804
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 4: spirits in there are waiting to have the opportunity to communicate,

805
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: so that they've never had that chance before. It leaves

806
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: it less up to you know, the universe and fate

807
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: to see what happens tonight, and more so up to

808
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: the investigator to seek out a place where they can

809
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: actually have an impact.

810
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: See now, I have a little bit of a theory

811
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: about here in Hollywood that there are so many actively

812
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: haunted places because the ghosts are the kind of people

813
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: that are like time to perform, like they like love,

814
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: They love the love, the attention. I mean, I know

815
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people in my life that are living

816
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: that when it's their time to be a ghost there,

817
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard to shut them up there.

818
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Myself included, it's like, okay, let's the more the merrier,

819
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: come on in, I'm going to perform for you. But yeah,

820
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: a lot of ghosts aren't that way.

821
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean, I I too often think if

822
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm ever gonna get the chance to be a ghost,

823
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: and if I will be haunting people. But I I

824
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: one agree with them with that theory. I think that's

825
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: less of a theory. We can always claim that is

826
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 4: more of a fact. I mean, that's it's Hollywood stuff.

827
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: It's the big, big big city there. I mean, it's

828
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: absolutely that's got to be a reason whenever you whenever

829
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: you do hear about a haunted location, I feel like

830
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: they're usually noteworthy for their ghosts, their resident ghost being

831
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: kind of famous figures.

832
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: Oh totally, or people that we're trying to be famous,

833
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: you know, unfinished business or that whole.

834
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: Idea lily, just like the that Hollywood signed girl.

835
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: Peg and thwhistle.

836
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

837
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: Speaking of EVPs a moment ago, you want to hear

838
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: some ghost voices.

839
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm.

840
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EVP or e ev please. Okay.

841
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: So what I do is I go to YouTube. I

842
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: find some EVPs. All kinds of people post these things,

843
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: and you know, I think they're usually pretty legit. But

844
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: sometimes it's hard to say, and I will say, especially over.

845
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: Zoom, it's tough, but I'll play it.

846
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: Give me a guest tell me what you think you hear,

847
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: and then I'll give you some options of either you know,

848
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: well it's what what the investigator things it says, but

849
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: you just tell me whatever whatever you think you hear

850
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: or whatever.

851
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.

852
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: This first one is it was posted by mo Quinn

853
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Junior on YouTube and it is at the Sika Hollow

854
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: State Park in northeast South Dakota.

855
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: What does this go? Saying? It's a pretty quick one.

856
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: I played.

857
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 4: I had like three three things come of my mind.

858
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 4: I heard a child. I heard it's saying sh or like.

859
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: Shut Okay, wait, let me put it again.

860
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: I feel like I keep one of these here a

861
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: child there, like a very muffled like a child.

862
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I hear that.

863
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: Okay, here's some options. One of these is what mo

864
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: Quinn Junior thinks. Is it a.

865
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Shut up B I'm shawna C.

866
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: I should have or d Brewce shutta.

867
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: Play it again?

868
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: Oh God, I hope it was d.

869
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: What do you think.

870
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: I Of all those, I would say shut up? And

871
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 4: just because my the last one I thought I was saying,

872
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 4: I heard shut.

873
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: And that's what Yes, exactly, yeah it shut up. Yeah.

874
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: Here I'll play it again. Okay, not too bad?

875
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: All right.

876
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Here's another one. This one is from Todd Sheldon on YouTube,

877
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: and it is at I believe it said Todd's home.

878
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: It's in Kenbrook, Maine. And you tell me what you hear?

879
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: Oh, that is a robotic right there.

880
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm assuming that there was some editing going on here.

881
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: We'll try it again. A little damn punky.

882
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: What'd you say?

883
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: I hear it one more time?

884
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh gosh, I gotta tell you I don't. I

885
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: don't have the foggiest I can barely make out any

886
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: kind of tone in that.

887
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you some options. Is it a hey girl?

888
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: How you doing? B? Hay turkey? C does not compute

889
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: or d lazy susan. Okay, here we go one more time.

890
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 4: I heard hey, I heard it. I hate to say it.

891
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: I heard hey.

892
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Girl, Hey girl? How you do it? Hey girl? How

893
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: you do it?

894
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: I've never heard an EVP that.

895
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: Edited hey, But that's what I'm saying. Maybe it's like,

896
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: maybe it's a robot ghost. They believe it says hey,

897
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: turkey like as in like I think.

898
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: They even wrote like they got called a turkey?

899
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: Here?

900
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: Am I putting again.

901
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: Hey Turkey, Oh my god, God, I love YouTube. Okay,

902
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: let's do one more thing here. I'm just gonna rattle

903
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: off like a bunch of paranormally things, unexplained phenomenas. And

904
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, since you're like a paranormal professional, I'm sure

905
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: you'll have so much to say. But just you know,

906
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: give me a thought or an anecdote or a theory

907
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: or something that comes to mind. Okay, all right, what

908
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: about demonic possession?

909
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: That is a tricky one for me.

910
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: I think demons are far less present than a lot

911
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: of popular paranormal media makes them out to be.

912
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: I think most darkness, most.

913
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: Neer, duel spirits and occurrences people have are bad spirits,

914
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: not demons, mainly because a demon wants to not be

915
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: known as a demon. They need to operate under a

916
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: secrecy and work to you know, according to the Bible

917
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: and all that stuff.

918
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 3: Take your soul.

919
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: And whenever a person on TV or a YouTube show

920
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 4: anything like that encounters what they dub a demon, they'll

921
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: usually ask like, what are you and they'll be like

922
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 4: Satan or a demon and it's like, guys, a second,

923
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: they say that, you know, it's not a demon like

924
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: that that should be.

925
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: It's just like some cosplayer goes to, like somebody that

926
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: likes to do live action role plays or something exactly.

927
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: I have only had one experience with one.

928
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 4: I helped out with the Catholic Diocese in Columbus with

929
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: an exorcism a couple of years back, and that was

930
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: probably the most horrifying night of my life. I never

931
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: want to do anything like that again, but it definitely

932
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 4: reaffirmed in my head that you know, there's there's good

933
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 4: and there is evil, and that that was evil.

934
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: Connor, Okay, I have to wrap this up and I

935
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: have to hear this. Can you please tell me about this.

936
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: You can't just throw out that you went to an exorcism.

937
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: What happened?

938
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: Well, this family had been getting terrorized for years. I

939
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 4: had a cohort that I worked with out there in

940
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: the Columbus area who reached out to me that he'd

941
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 4: investigated this place a number of times. Couldn't figure anything

942
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: out that was going there beyond all the occurrences that

943
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: were taking place. For the next six months, I had

944
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: a correspondence with the husband and wife who lived there.

945
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: They had three children, three relatively young children. Inside of

946
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: the house and we were trying to work out theories.

947
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 4: I was trying to connect them with the right people

948
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: to get this taken care of. It took a turn

949
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: one week when the wife. Other people will remain nameless,

950
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: of course, but it took a turn one week when

951
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: I get a text from the father. The entire family

952
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: is in the hospital, and I asked, oh, my goodness,

953
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: there anything all right. I kind of figured, you know,

954
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: why you're reaching out to me about this. He says

955
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: that they had woken up and their youngest daughter, who's

956
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: about five years old, was just standing at the edge

957
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: of their bed. Soamora from the rings, the kind of

958
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 4: style hair hanging over her face trance and she wouldn't move,

959
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: and she was kind of growling, and she wouldn't do anything.

960
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: They threw holy water at her and she kind of

961
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 4: lifts her head up and it is fine, almost just.

962
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: In a daze.

963
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 4: But when that was all said and done, the wife

964
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: had bruises and scratch marks and all these abrasions all

965
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: across her body. And you know, I don't put a

966
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: lot of stock in people who tell me outlander stories

967
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: like that. They sent me all the pictures inside of

968
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: the hot spital room. They sent me all of the

969
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: hospital reports day video. They were facetiing me and showing

970
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: everything that was on her body. It was the most

971
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: horrific thing I've ever seen. I immediately contacted a clairvoyant

972
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: I worked with in Texas, my team in Ohio, my

973
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: team in Arizona. We all converged this house in Columbus

974
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 4: with the archdiocese out there, and went about performing what, well,

975
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: I guess is just a run of the mill exorcism

976
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: that you run of the mill. It's it's just every

977
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: other Friday. But it evoked activity that I didn't think existed.

978
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 4: Things happened that and I know you're trying to wrap

979
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: it up, so I want to hear it. Okay, I

980
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: was gonna say I didn't want to like eat into that. Well,

981
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: I'll give you three occurrences. First occurrence, we're all in

982
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: the basement. We have the clairvoyant with us. The wife

983
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: and the children have left. It's just the rest of us.

984
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: The husband has stayed to help guide us through. When

985
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: we walk into the basement, the clairvoyant looks to one

986
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: portion of it and so it.

987
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: Starts shaking her head and just start like murmuring to herself.

988
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: Like nah, nah, that that shouldn't be there, that's not

989
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: supposed to be there, and we're all just looking at her,

990
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: kind of like staring at each other.

991
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: What is she talking about?

992
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: And she turns back around and says the exact same

993
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: thing to the husband, like not even directing it, just

994
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: saying it at him, just that that shouldn't be there.

995
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 4: Why is this here? Why is this happening? And he's

996
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: very confused. He's looking at us like should be responding

997
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: to this, And so I finally ask her, I'm just like,

998
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? What shouldn't be here? Like

999
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: what are you seeing or what are you trying to

1000
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: direct us towards right now? And she says, this entire

1001
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: portion of the basement that's not supposed to be there,

1002
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 4: And the homeowner looks at her and he's like, you know,

1003
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: oddly enough, this was a mess up in the blueprints

1004
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: when we initially had the home built. They kind of

1005
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: messed up in like the width on their parcel of land,

1006
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: and it started going one way when they're supposed to

1007
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: be going another, and so they just ended up on

1008
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: an extra large basement with this entire like twenty by

1009
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: twenty portion that originally wasn't supposed to be.

1010
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: There, and she's shaking her head for like.

1011
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: A minute, and finally it just like looks back over

1012
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: into this dark that dark area basement, just like it

1013
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: shouldn't be there. That's where she was, and we're just

1014
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: like looking at it, like who's she and she just

1015
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: like something out of the contry just turns around and

1016
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: looks at me and just like that's where she.

1017
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 3: Was buried, and we're just like what, who is buried there?

1018
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: And I roz, I go out of my way to

1019
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 4: ensure that I can disprove everything in the world. I

1020
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: personally believe in like fifteen percent of the occurrences that

1021
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 4: I've seen, as I work so hard to disprove them.

1022
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: And I say that because once she said that again,

1023
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: the table in the middle of the room flipped over.

1024
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: I mean we caught it on video, the lipping room

1025
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: table flipping over, and she starts like screaming the clairvoyant

1026
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: and she's like.

1027
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 3: You can't do this, you don't belong here.

1028
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 4: And you hear footsteps running up the uncovered wooden stairs

1029
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: at the basement, heading back up into.

1030
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: The foyer and she's chasing it. We're the rest of

1031
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: us are just standing there watching her chase this thing,

1032
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: and we don't know what's going on. And we sprint

1033
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: up there and we're trying to follow her. The priests

1034
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: are there and they're just.

1035
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: Kind of just like because this was the tour, we

1036
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: hadn't really started anything yet, and we get up there

1037
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 4: into the main room and she's like spinning like she's

1038
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 4: like looking all around her. The clairvoyant is in the

1039
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: middle of the of the living room, as though something's

1040
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: like enveloping her or wrapping around her, and then she

1041
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: just stops, like she stops so fast you would have

1042
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: thought someone like wrapped their arms around her and just

1043
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 4: stopped her. And she turns around and she looks at

1044
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: the homeowner, at the husband there, and she just starts

1045
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: nodding her head and she's like, everybody get away from him,

1046
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: and we get away from him, and she kind of

1047
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: gets this weird smile, which we kind of thought looked maniacal,

1048
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 4: but we've kind of figured out later because she finally

1049
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: found it. And she looks at him and she's like,

1050
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 4: I need you not to move, and he's like everything okay,

1051
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: and she's like, you're fine, she's just right behind you.

1052
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: And so the second she says that, I just kind

1053
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: of like lose it. I'm like, just start reading this scripture.

1054
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: And so the priest break open the Bible and they

1055
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: start reading this like highlighted verse they had. They read

1056
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: it one time, and you hear it sounds like a

1057
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: male and a female talking in the kitchen. And I

1058
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: keep saying, after every time they read it, do it again,

1059
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 4: do it again, do it again. And every time they

1060
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: do it again, something new happens. The first time we

1061
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 4: hear the voices in the kitchen. The second time, the

1062
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: investigator we had sitting at the base of the stairs

1063
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 4: going to the upper floor kind of like it's almost

1064
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: like pushed forward into the staircase leading up to the

1065
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 4: kid's playroom. And he's like, what the hell was that?

1066
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: Who pushed me?

1067
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: And you hear the footsteps as he falls over going

1068
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: up the stairs. I say, read it again.

1069
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: You see this white, weird, eerie mist walk across the

1070
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 4: bedroom the door of the playroom and go in there.

1071
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: I say, read it again. And you hear the toys

1072
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: and the chairs that they're just like flamoring, as though

1073
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 4: something's tossing everything, destroying the room, and we say, hear

1074
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: it again, and you just sound hear it sounds like

1075
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: somebody slamming with their full weight against the wall. And

1076
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: we rush up there because we just rush up there.

1077
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 4: We didn't know what to think. We were just completely

1078
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: overcome what we had just experienced. And we get up

1079
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 4: there and we stop and she kind of starts sweating,

1080
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 4: the clairvoyant does, and she's like, well, we have it

1081
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: for now, and like, we have what for now? And

1082
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: she points back to a tent. She hasn't been in

1083
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: this room yet, she hasn't seen anything in this room yet,

1084
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: but she points behind this pink princess tent the kids

1085
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: had and said, that's where it stays. And I'm like,

1086
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: inside of that tent and she's like, no, behind the tent,

1087
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 4: and we go over there and we move the tent,

1088
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: and again she has no idea what's in there. When

1089
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Speaker 4: we move it. There is this weird, old, boarded up

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00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: crawl space just going above the parents' bedroom that none

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00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 4: of them had ever been inside of, that they didn't

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00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: really mess around with since they bought the home. But

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00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 4: she says, that's where it's staying right now. And the

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: second she says that the homeowner is just like that

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00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: makes sense, Like the other two seconds we've had here

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: is said, it's up here, and we couldn't do anything

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00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: else for the night. We had to get a person

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00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: who specializes in portals up from Florida there later on

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Speaker 4: in the year, but I thought it was gonna be

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00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 4: the first time I got in my car to leave

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: that we actually proved something to the homeowners that whatever

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00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: is there, whatever darkness is there, whatever's attacking them and

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00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 4: possessing their daughter and hurting.

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Speaker 3: The wife, it has a weakness.

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: You know, you can read scripture, you can show strength,

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00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: you can show you know you're going to stand your

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00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: ground and you can face this thing. And I called

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00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: my investigator saying that after we were done, like we

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00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: should be proud of what we just did. But the

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: second I say that into the phone, we're all getting

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: on the highway leaving that house.

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Speaker 3: That night. Alex, THEEAH guy I work with that of Ohio,

1113
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: is like, Connor.

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Speaker 4: We didn't do anything, Like what do you mean? He's like,

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00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: I just got off the phone with the homeowner. I'm like,

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00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 4: is he okay? Are they scared? They're leaving again? Once

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 4: the girls and the wife came back, I think it

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00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: took ten minutes for us to be gone. They put

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00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: the kids to bed, and they went into their red

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: bedroom to get ready for the night. They stood inside

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00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: of their restroom that has an adjacent door leading into

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: their walk in closet, and as they're standing there, they

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00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: just hear clear's day something standing in the doorway of

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00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: the closet and it's whistling Daisy Daisy to them.

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Speaker 3: Like just like d.

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: And the wife barricades herself in the shower, and the

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00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: husband is kind of just like backing up. He says

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00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: that he's like throwing random stuff from the counter into

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: the closet. And a second he does that, you hear

1130
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: like three thundering footsteps walk out of the closet and

1131
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: just stand in the middle of the restroom. And they

1132
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: could just feel it looking at them. It didn't want them.

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: It wanted something else. And that's what he said. Y's

1134
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: what he said to the wife. He said, it doesn't

1135
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 4: want us, it wants something else. It's like, you don't scarce.

1136
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: And the second he did that, they just hear it again.

1137
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: The same thundering footsteps leave the room and sprint upstairs

1138
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: towards the kid's bedroom, and that was the last I

1139
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: heard of it.

1140
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's very rare on this podcast. Well,

1141
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: it's happened a few times where I'm like, I don't

1142
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: know if I could take it anymore. This is too scary.

1143
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: This is so scary. This sounds like something from a movie.

1144
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: It felt like a movie. That's that is a small

1145
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: taste of it. There.

1146
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: I've I've talked fully about it before, but it could

1147
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: be like a full two hour ordeal the linings start

1148
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: to finish. It was a horrifying evening. I didn't necessarily

1149
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 4: not believe in demons or anything like that, but I

1150
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 4: after traveling so much not encountering any and really being

1151
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: able to chalk most of it up to human entities,

1152
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: I didn't have too much stock in it, but that

1153
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 4: night really changed things.

1154
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it more. Can you please

1155
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: come back one of these times?

1156
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be more than welcome to come back and

1157
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 4: just talk about the exorcism.

1158
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: Please do.

1159
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have to wrap it up here, but

1160
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: thank you so much for going on. And can you

1161
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: tell people once again you know about your Instagram and

1162
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: where to find you and all that stuff.

1163
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: It is at Haunted dot Historian on Instagram and at

1165
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: the Connor gossel on Facebook. Facebook was made at the

1166
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: beginning of this year, so the following is not quite

1167
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: as large, but it's definitely grown fast.

1168
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: But those the outlets you can find us on.

1169
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: Shoot us your encounters, your stories are different regions, specific

1170
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: places you want investigative. We're always looking for, you know,

1171
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: insight from people that you know might know better than

1172
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 4: us about a lot of these places.

1173
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: And you're an amazing storyteller. I'm also gonna throw that

1174
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: in there obviously based on this conversation. And thank you

1175
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: so much. What a dream of a guest. I really

1176
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Thank you so much to the Haunted Historian

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: Connor Gossiel. And again go follow the Instagram page at

1178
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: Haunted dot Historian.

1179
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Speaker 1: I'm working on.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: Some new guests for the show. Very excited to make

1181
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,880
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1186
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Speaker 1: Oh what else?

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Speaker 2: You want to be on a listener episode? We've got

1192
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,600
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Speaker 2: You can find it there. And uh, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you don't have Instagram, send me an email. I'll send

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Speaker 2: you the link. I love you all, both living and dead.

1201
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: haunt me. Came Back

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