WEBVTT - Kxng Crooked's Truth:Did Joe Budden sabotage Slaughterhouse? 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.320 Jay, you know what it is. We're back with another 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.160 episode A Gangster chronicles your boy eight and I'm with 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.240 the homie Big Steal in the house was cracking, y'all. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.640 And today we have a special guest. I don't want 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.760 to call him a special guest. The motherfucker is probably 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:21.880 one of the best rappers in the fucking world. Dog 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.280 just a lyrical motherfucker, the one and only King Crooked. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.800 Ye know what, I'm here, lady Man. Finally, Dog, Lady, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.840 I don't think you know Eight. I've been hitting the 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.559 homie up on motherfucking Twitter everywhere, Dog trying to get this. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.080 He's been just nagging a nigga, just this exclusive. And 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.040 if you I guess he said, he finally said, fuck it, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.199 I'm gonna go and see this square here nigga, Na 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.519 you know that you soon as you called, I was 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.400 with it. No, yeah, no, he was here. Man, No problems. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.120 I'll be here. Man. We ain't got no, we ain't 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.760 got no bad We got no bad reputation or issues 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.880 with my boy Crook and everything is all is all gravy. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.880 So glad to have you're on the show, man, Man, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.480 Glad to be here. Thanks to invite me to the party. Man, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.760 I'm on the gainst the Chronicles. We're gonna talk about 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.240 some gangster shit. Oh no, man, you know what, Man, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.800 Actually the Gangster Chronicles is expanding a little bit beyond 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.640 just the normal gangster ship. Dog. We touched on some 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.840 everything dogs. You know what I'm saying. We got to 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.119 show people that, you know, even though we come from 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.479 the streets, you know, people be questioning our intelligence, you know, 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.560 like we don't have the brains or we don't have 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.000 the knowings to have decent conversations or in depth stuff 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.840 to talk about that we ain't up on current events 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:38.039 or just the culture of things. You know, people look 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.040 at us and just a neighborhood gang and rapping and 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.040 gun toting and that's it. You know, vocabulary is kind 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.559 of small. So we like to show people that our 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.360 brains can venture more than just talking about what we 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.160 did growing up in the streets. You know what I'm 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.160 saying that our cognitive abilities are not subpart but on 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.280 the whole another level. You know what I'm saying, Hey, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.680 if they must ain't listen to them albums, you know 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.880 they should have knew how sharp it was was going down. Yeah, 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.440 it show because it show ain't easy, man, And this 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:10.760 is what I want to do. I want to go 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.200 back to the beginning a little bit Man, east Side 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:18.240 Alone Beach, California to the east Side Jill l right, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.080 p Nate Dog the Greatest. Oh yeah for sure. Ain't 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.800 nobody even closer? Man, Auto two can't even fade him. Man, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.639 they were special when they get on your record, Dog, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.880 you was liably go from sitling possibly one hundred thousand 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.520 units of possibly going platinum. Dog. I was so mad 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.520 when they when they kicked me off of Virsion Records. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.680 You know what I'm saying, because I had my first 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.160 single was Nate Me and Nate battle Kat produced it. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.480 It was called this is for the Crooking Me, This 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:50.320 is for the Krug that's seen me. Babe. Yeah, God, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.960 I was gate. I was only like eighteen nineteen. I 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.400 was ready to come back. Yeah, fire man. They came 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.840 in with a brown bag and said, everybody darker than 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.200 this bad get out to build it. Janet Jackson, Yeah, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.640 for sure, I remember that time when it happened. You know, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.360 it's crazy the Dog. I don't think people understand this. Dog. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.000 Nate really made a difference on your record. He impacted 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.720 your sales absolutely. Nate got on that motherfucking yes, it 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.840 was over. It was radio all day radio. I remember 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.359 one year we added the Powerhouse. I was up there 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.079 with high seeing quick okay, and Nate came off to 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.720 that motherfucker dog and did a met lead of hooks 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.640 and when I tell you, he turned the whole motherfucking 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.120 show out. Just hooks, just with hooks, My nigga, was 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 the craziest thing. He was up there for about twenty 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.600 minutes dog doing nothing but back to back hooks. Wow, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.760 nothing but back to back hooks, and everybody was going 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.520 crazy and could Nobody whoever came on after him was 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.480 kind of like you was kind of whatever. They just 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.160 shut this most sit down with the hook master definitely. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.680 You know you being from Long Beach, Version was your 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.119 first label. That was the first label that she was on, right, yeah, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.480 I mean you know the first major The first label 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.320 I was on was Muscle Record and that was an 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.240 independent label owned by Chuckie Miller and Russell. Yeah. They 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.760 both went to the NFL man and they came back 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.560 and opened up a label on the East Side, and 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.760 that was the first label that I was on. I 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.560 gotta give it to them because they gave me my 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.680 first shot. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, for sure, 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.839 you definitely have to go back man to the people 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.240 that believed in you first and get them they props 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.839 and the Russell was the ship. Yeah, I played against 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.880 eight ball, Me and this niggative yall can't see on 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.880 camera my homeboys sitting across the room. We played against 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.840 eight ball and I hit him in the backfield. One 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.520 played Dog and I thought my shoulder is separated. He 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.600 would feel like a tank coming through their up. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.719 he laid power on swimming over the offensive linement. Dog 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.360 thoughts don't making hill of a play. I tackled him, Dog, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.880 but my shoulder wasn't right to this day, Dog, after 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.240 I hit that big eight ball and no joke, man, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.920 you know, the city turned out a lot of great 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.600 football players. Man, Polly High is really Oh definitely, it's 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.360 definitely to leave one of them spots, you know what 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.120 I mean, Lone beast. Probably before Bosco took over. Bosco 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.320 kind of with Bosco did Dog all the kids. Because 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.680 my son wanted to go to Polly and he was 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.120 a five star crew um. He wanted to go to 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:17.560 Long Beach. Probably Ill said hell, no, why for you? Man? 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.640 You know what, Dog, I worked hard to get. I 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.080 ain't gonna even say nothing about that one. No, But 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.760 you know what, maybe he didn't want him to follow 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.920 in his footsteps, is that I don't want muse. I remember, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.719 I remember the ship I was down. Yeah, I remember, shit, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.000 I was doing a long Beast California. When I first 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.080 touched down to California, when I was like his age 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 and very impressionable. I ain't gonna lie, dog, the streets 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.760 was fun as a motherfucker. Right, it was fun. It 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.280 was exciting and ticon un to them popos, and one 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.440 start coming, nigga started shooting at you. That's when that 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.800 ship get a little different. Oh yeah, to get a 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.920 little different than Yeah. You know, so when you signed 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.560 this deal with Chucky and eight Ball, how were you 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:04.360 at the time, seventeen waiting to turn eighteen, seventeen years old. Yeah, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.600 and so that's your first that was your first time 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.160 with the actual studio and everything like that. So well, 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.440 it wasn't my first time in actual studio. Man. I 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.800 was one of my moms used to sing, right, my 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.000 mother from Oklahoma. You know what I'm saying. And her 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.960 and her twin sister, my aunt Charline rest in pH 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.039 They had a group man and they used to do 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.800 backup singing for the gap bands, do you know what 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.840 I'm saying. And they came out here to chase their 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.719 dream down, you know what I mean. And then my 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.800 mom ended up having kids. My mom met my pops 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.480 um in Long Beach. He was he was stationed there. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.799 He was in the Navy, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.000 So she always I wanted to wrap since I was eight, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.719 you know what I'm saying. So she put me in 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.240 the studio when I was eight years old. That was 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:48.760 the first time I won the studio. I did a 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.080 song called the Controller. What I'm saying, microphone controller, you 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:53.680 know what I mean. So you eight years old talking 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.280 about you the microphone control I spelled the beat is 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.440 a hammer, the rhythms and nail. You know. I was 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.400 sitting there like that with eight years old, you know. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.640 So shout out to my mother for always believing in 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.720 me and trying to push me. We didn't have much, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.440 but she just she did the best she could. You 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.480 know what I'm saying. My mom's you know, bless my mom's. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:22.240 They they wasn't for it. They was not for the 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.280 rap shit in the beginning. You know, it was in 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:33.280 the streets hard. So that was like another motherfucking level 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.240 of being in the streets to them. You get me 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:41.920 my mom's and them from Gulfport, Mississippi. So when they 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.360 heard the nigga around there playing that ship and then 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.119 they was like, you know because my wraps, I wasn't 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:51.600 a controller. You know, we was talking about five old 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.040 came through last night, So so went to jail, So 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.880 and so came through so and so blasted all right. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.160 So when she was here and that, she was like, oh, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.240 hell no, yeah, nigga, you get to go do something. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.040 You ain't feel that it was it was. It was, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.640 you know, had to sneak out and do type of shit. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:15.440 On my end, it wasn't really supported, you know, especially 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.920 coming from motherfuckers who was hard working people, you know 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.440 what I'm saying, coming from the South, like like music 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.240 musicians and not like a pipe dream. We worked like 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.400 around this motherfucker yea, you know, the starting artist exactly 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.200 like that shit ain't gonna work you dreaming. Hell yeah, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.280 it was. It was good that you know, music had 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.679 you know, developed a little bit by your time that 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.840 your mom's could see, you know, the talent that you had, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.000 was ready to investing you going to the studios. Ship. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.080 I wish my mom would have put me in the studio. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.319 You gotta think there was the eighties, right, Yeah, there 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.200 was the eighties. There wasn't nobody because they were saying 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.400 this shit wasn't go. Last dog he was seeing rap 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.240 was go just a fast Yeah, he said it was 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.319 a fast six. It was hard danging around this motherfucker. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.920 I'm tally real, I'm done. I don't give a fuck. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.800 Fresh Fast days in Long Beach to digging I'm talking about. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:16.600 It was hard bag this motherfuck real talk. Yeah, the 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:21.959 eighties was man. Listen man, eighties croker sacks. Man, they're 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:26.600 very curls. It was hard back high school, fighting with 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.400 the niggas, hopping the back fence, all that type of shit. Man. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.560 I didn't we didn't know nothing. When you talk about 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.160 the fucking fresh Fast, that was a Loane Beach, I believe, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.760 and I remember when that ship happened. Dog, it was cracking. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.560 It was motherfucker's getting robbed in the parking lot, motherfuckers 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.200 getting beat up because you think about it, everybody from 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.080 La had congregated a pump that set a pumlane beach 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.520 that day, right, and so you had a number of 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.079 different niggas from everywhere else. They alone Beach numb A, 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.480 Long Beaches one of them type of cities. Long Beaches 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.760 are all blue city. For all those that don't know 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.040 out there ain't number of crips them, one ain't number 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.640 of crips. And then you got some moines and you 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.600 got the Mexican homies, right, and that's and that's it. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.079 And it's not that big of them. It's a big city, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.559 but it's close knit. Yeah, absolutely, it's close knit. And 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.520 that was the thing when I first came to California. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.719 Ill touched down out here in eighty eight and had 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.480 been coming out to visit a few summers before they 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.920 because I got some people out of here, right, So 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.880 I've been coming since like eighty five eighty six, right, Yeah, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.600 And when I tell you that, it was like the 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.920 gangster ship was just at this full apex at that time. Yeah, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.160 because I came out here, dog and the nigga needed 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.000 to get some money because I didn't have a family, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.280 you know, I most niggas get support from the crib. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.760 I didn't have nobody sending me a bag. I came 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.040 out to this motherfucker with fifty dollars in my pocket, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.120 dog and a couple pair of pants. Like, nigga, you know, 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.480 you got to go make your way in this world, right, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.360 So I got out here the quickest way I saw 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.000 to get this some money. Man. The homie put a 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.560 sack in my hand. In the gap, I said, this 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.480 was a spot had it was, this is what a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.320 spot had, and that's what it was. Yeah, man, I 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.440 mean shit. We was too young to get jobs, you 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.480 know what I'm saying. We couldn't legally work, so we 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.880 had to find ways to get money, you know what 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.720 I mean. It wasn't like I could go get a 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.920 fucking job. But I knew I was poor, you know 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.240 what I'm saying. I knew that I didn't want to 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.000 keep wearing these fucking thirst store clothes that my moms 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.240 could afford. You know what I'm saying. We was so poor, nigga, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.200 we used to switch the tags on the first store 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.040 clothed nigga. Damn, you know what I'm saying. Like we was, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.120 we was below the poverty line. So I figured out 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.880 that money was very necessary early in my life, probably 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.720 when I should have just been a kid having fun 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.800 on the skateboard, you know what I mean. And then 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.600 I got siblings, so you know, once Pop bounced out, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.680 it was on me and my older brother to hold 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.360 everything down, you know what I mean. My older brothers 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.240 start cooking in the kitchen, you know, doing this thing 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.440 with the wrist work, you know what I'm saying. And 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.920 he's taught me, you know the game on that I mean, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.000 Nigga say, we didn't know shit. We got theamn. We 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:04.320 knew at five six years old. We pos mother if 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:11.840 we pours the disrespect to the strugglers. But God, David, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.040 like she, like you said, you supposed to be a 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.959 kid having happy times watching cartoons on the weekend that 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.280 you picked up. Like Nigga, it's cold and its mother. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:27.520 We pour as fuck. We didn't even have utility sometimes, dog, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.600 I had to go out there and turn the electric 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.920 back on and learn how to turn my electric gass on, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.559 my water on. I could do all that, even when 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.960 they take the water meter. You're going you cut two 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.120 inner tubes from the bicycle and you put them on 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.400 there you twist their motherfucking hanger around. The motherfucker's cut 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.800 your water back on, like poor, poor, poor my nigga, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.920 and they come back right now, they're come back. They 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.080 come back and shut that motherfucker off. You better fill 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.920 up while you can make. You make you appreciate shit today. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.000 Man like niggas be always you know, I get it, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.560 thiggas be on the rich rich shit and whatever. But 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.600 you got to be able to appreciate. Motherfucker. I turned 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.679 my lights on every fucking day, and give me. I 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.920 can open my front door every day, you know what 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.400 I'm saying. I can eat every day and eat comfortably. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.800 You know what I'm saying. I can wear what I 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.520 want to wear. But to be able to steal, maintain, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.959 and not forget where you came from. You know, that's 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.840 the type of motherfucker I am, right. I try to 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.160 not you know, be too fancy with it. You know, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.960 coming from being an entertainer and all that, you know, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.360 sometimes you get lost in that ship. You know, you 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.200 try to fit in with certain motherfuckers because you believe 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.679 that's what you should be doing as a rapper. But 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.720 you know, I've been I've always been a type of 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.839 motherfucking Don't get me wrong. You lose yourself every now 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.960 and then, you know what I'm saying, And then you 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.520 come back to reality and I'm grateful for that, you know, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.360 and strong days in poorer days, because now nigga can 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.280 hand you a couple of hundred thousand or whatever, and 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.920 you don't how to be smart with shit. I mean, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.960 necessities is everything. You know. Flossing is one thing, but 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.400 being able to take care of your family, your kids, lights, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.160 stay on, food on the table, kids can do basically 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.439 whatever they want to do as far as you know, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.760 not being you know, alienated, growing up being a poor kid. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.160 Yeah yeah, motheruckers. Just going to school with motherfuckers and 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.280 you'd be feeling a little out of place. Motherfucker's got 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.360 on the guests this and against that. You know that 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.360 was back in our days. You know, motherfucker's flossing and 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.320 we're looking like damn and you wearing the same shit 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.040 every day, trying to rotate that motherfucker trying to figure 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.040 out the rotation. And it's always a motherfucking the school 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.680 that got jokes to figure out your rotation. Nigga, I 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.680 know what you're doing. You just want that same shit Friday, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.360 and you can wear this again Friday. Just motherfuckers, you 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.120 want to just punch the motherfucker's in the mouth. How 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.080 about when they tell you they get your brother had 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.320 that outfit? Oh yeah, yeah. It's always a mother fuck 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.200 with jokes that don't figure it out the whole motherfucking play. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.080 But going back to this, after you had the situation 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.280 with them, what was next? What happened next? After I 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.520 did Muscle Records, Um, I was bobbing down the street. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.840 I was on Atlantic Avenue, man, I was on my 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.800 way to go see my dude Fudgelow and be Tip 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:25.760 and and they was making some music for Warren was 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.720 They was making ideas to pitch the Warren and Warren 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.920 Warren was just coming up you know what I'm saying 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.280 in the game. And I was mobbing over there to go, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.080 you know, come up with some music ideas with them 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.960 and all that, and my homie Big C Style pulled 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.040 up on me and Big Style was like, yo, I've 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.440 been looking for you. Man. We got this compilation called 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:51.640 nineteen Street Compilation. So I was like, okay, nineteen Street Compilation. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.680 I was like, all right, cool. So I was like 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.400 He was like, get in. We were recording that soundcastle. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.320 Now the soundcastle was like a million dollars studio, and 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.480 you know, me and my brother Dice, we mob and 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.600 we broke hungry. So we jumped into the car. Lt. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.280 Hutton was in there eating a piece of chicken. Nigga 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.200 had an s crall on his head. Now that nigga 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:15.160 like one of the biggest producers. You know the kind 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.560 of shit. You know what I'm saying. Man, We jumped 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.520 in and went to the studio. We did this, We 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.160 did it. I asked him. I was like, Yo, how 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.560 many songs can I be on? I see y'all almost done? 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.480 He said, you could be on as many as you want. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.720 Then I jumped on ten joints. That's how hungry I was, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.200 you know what I'm saying. In a matter like two days, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.720 I was on ten songs and then that can that 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:39.440 came out and uh some. My man Malik, my man 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:44.720 Malik Levy. He had this deal called Capital Punishment at 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.040 Capital Records. He had this label. They had these dudes 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.600 over there, um called damn All we do with smoke 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.960 mad is them Channel Channel Jaris went on it. You 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.880 know what I'm saying, So that was Malik in them. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.680 They was moving at some Malik he came through and 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.640 he heard the compilation, was like, man, I could get 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.240 y'all the situation. You know what I'm saying, So Virgin. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.479 That's when Virgin came in through New Trot, New Troy, 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.720 you know what I'm saying with Eric, and they was 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.639 over there. You know, the Looneys had just blew up 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.000 what I got five on here there rapping out over 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.080 here at that time was a lot over there. They 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.480 had m you know, ben Zeno on them, has some 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.360 shit going on over there, and Face Mob was over there. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.120 So it was you know, they came in and it's 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.359 so funny because you know, I was a super technical rapper, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.879 you know what I mean. Because I listened to Big Daddy, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.720 Kane and Rock Him and Kogi rapping all of them, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.520 and I was like, man, all of the greats. Yeah, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.520 I was like, dog, how can I get my skill 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.359 my skills together? You know what I'm saying. And because 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.199 the old dude told me, He's like, you want to 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.400 you want to stop being poor. You gotta find something 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.239 you good at and stick to it. And I was like, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.600 you know what I'm gonna try to really push my 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.639 pen so sometimes you know, the home be like, man, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.399 I don't know what you was talking about because that 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.080 shit sound hard though, you know what I'm saying. But 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.560 it was like I was rap, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.720 So um, it was just crazy. When the when the 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.159 nars from from New Tribe and them came into the 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.920 to the studio, they was like, who is that little 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.200 nigga right there? You know what I'm saying. And off 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.320 of the compilation, they gave me a solo deal, you 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:23.840 know what I'm saying. And that's how I got the 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.720 solo deal. Walked into the Virgin Records. Man, I was 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.800 just a young dude. Man, I was living on Lyndon Avenue, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.480 you know what I'm saying. And it was like a 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.840 big boardroom with people in suits and ties and signing 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.040 the contract and taking pictures and shaking hands with people, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.080 and you know what I'm saying. It was a It 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.760 was a big deal for me because at that point 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.680 I thought I made it. I didn't know that it's 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.600 a whole lot more to go after you get a 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.000 record deal. But I ended up over there. We did 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.840 a dope ass album. I had the Dog Pound on 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.159 there and Naked Dog on there, and Battlecat did a 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.560 lot of production. LT did production, Dash did production. And 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:08.560 they said somebody was embezzling in the Urban Department or 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.359 something like that, so they just shut down the whole 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.960 Urban Department right when my album was ready to go. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.040 I thought I was about to come out and serve it, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.480 you know what I'm saying. But they shut it down. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.040 And uh, it was cool because they let me step 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.320 with my masters and they ain't. So you got to 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.200 walk away with that album. I got to walk away 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.280 with the album, and I got to walk away, you 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.280 know what I mean. They didn't. They didn't say, you know, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.159 the recoupment. All that was. You got to keep the 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.359 advance and all that. Let me ask you this, as 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.280 a poor kid coming up a long beach man from 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.679 the ghetto like so many of us, what did you 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.280 do when you first got to check man? What's the 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.920 first thing you did? Though? First thing I did? Dog 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.880 I went and um, I went and got a car. 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.240 You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't got a car. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.040 I put some beat in it, you know, of course, 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.800 and then um, I ain't got an apartment and I 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.520 went moved to Bigsby Nose like I thought, I made it. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.520 That's what niggas. When the nigga long beast make it, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.520 he goes to the Bixby Nose, A bill my short 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:15.280 with the big feet like the cop that they could 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.600 go in to Serdos or some ships. Is it? They 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.560 had a mode up the ladder digger. Hell yeah, niggas 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.880 up the motherfucking row. So you go through that situation. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.240 Did you ever put that project out? Never came out? 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.720 You had the masters, though you could have won to 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.639 deal what she wanted to with that. I didn't know 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:34.480 what we didn't We didn't know that ship back then. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.000 We didn't know about I got my masters. I didn't 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.680 go independent. Right now, I'm pressing up a few copies. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.040 See if you'd ran acros I was busy playing football. No, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.480 I was dune playing football. You're way younger than me. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.520 But you'd ran across the nigga like me. That album. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.919 Damn ship didn't come to the the head. I'd already had 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.440 a full strategy for that motherfucker. I had a lot 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.120 of mentors, dog, but a lot of them didn't know 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.800 the business business exactly. You see what I'm saying, so 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.000 it was like, damn, I look back, like, yeah, you know, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.600 it took a lot of us to get fucked over 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:09.120 to learn the business. Yes, yeah, that's I mean, that's 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.360 what it takes. I mean, we got we hear that's 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.880 saying all the time. Oh you're gonna get fucked Yeah, 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.879 you come through the door. Yeah, it's just no if 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.320 fans your buts. Yeah, it's what you learn from that 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:22.159 fucking It's how you maintain and how you maneuver and 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.679 actually ship. That's life, dog. It's like you constantly learning, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.520 even now as an older man. Right, It's certain experiences 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.359 I go through and I chalk him up his lessons. 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.920 Like even when something go bad, I say, you know what, 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:37.720 thank god, you know that was another lesson right there. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.119 We don't fail, we learn for sure. And so you 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.760 got this situation. By now you got an incredible buzz 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.840 because I heard it. I started hearing about you during 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.880 that period when a nineteen Street compilation came out and everything, 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.960 and people were saying, man, it's a dude, long beach. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.280 It's harder than rock him, you know what I mean, 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.040 And people was talking about you in that regard. It 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.280 made me definitely go check in on it. Right, So 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.560 when did you start fucking with the row? Fucking with 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:11.040 the Row? Well, after that situation went back independent. You 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.760 know what I'm saying. I'm at I'm at Kinko's making 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.000 my own mixtape covers. See see that. See the young people, 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.320 they don't know, they don't know about that grind. You 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.439 know what I'm saying. We was, We was going to studio, 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.920 buying studio time, you know, putting, putting projects together, doing 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.960 our own album covers, pressing our own stuff up, you 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:33.240 know what I'm saying, and hand to hand trying to 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.320 get them off, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.560 was doing that and then I met some dudes from 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.280 from from Texas and they had a little independent label. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.720 So I went down there and wrote for all their artists, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:46.840 you know what I mean. And I was keeping me 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.119 and that was keeping me afloat, you know. I was 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.320 just pinning for all their artists and I was keeping 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.679 me right. And then I got a knock on my 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.479 door and it was a big style and dads. They 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:03.280 had Dog Pound Records through Death Row, and they was like, yo, 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.679 we want you to come to death Row with us. 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.879 You know what I'm saying, And I was like, Okay, 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.680 what's going down. It was like, yeah, we got to 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.680 meet with Shug. Shug was locked up. He was in 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.400 Mule Creek, and I was like, all right, cool, so 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.760 flew up to go see Shugar. Now I come in 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:28.160 after them. I get to I get to Sacramento. Shug 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:32.280 got a tahoe that he'd been paying for at the 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.919 airport for his whole time he was incarcerating, you know, 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.640 airport parking as high as a motherfucker. So he paying 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:45.080 for this motherfucker for years for everybody who come to 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.119 visit him. So you jump into tahole, you know what 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.119 I'm saying. Reggie was driving and we went up to 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.600 uh to go see Shug, and we stopped in the 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:58.040 middle of nowhere, and I didn't know what was going on. 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.000 And I was like, man, well he stopped. Reggie jumped 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.280 out and got on the cell phone. He got back 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.359 in his whole mood change. I was like, man, what 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.639 the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying, 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.879 I'm I'm thinking about an exit strategy. Shit, I know, 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:17.359 death row reputation. You don't know you're going on in 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.359 the middle of nowhere. Let me ask you this. I 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:24.080 know we're from different sides. Yeah, snooped the party at 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.920 that time at the party, Okay, Now that's ay made 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.520 it extra weird for you. You You stopped off from the 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.520 middle of nowhere, a young chryp nigga from Long I'm 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.600 just I'm just I'm just just a neutral, neutral nigga. 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.000 That dad got a whole bunch of a whole bunch 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.160 of seas in my family. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.400 Take that back. I shouldn't have said, because I mean, 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.560 you know, just to be from the city, we grew 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.199 up like this, you know what I mean, Like this 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:52.240 is what it is. But um, you know. Yeah. So man, 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.639 they stopped in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, dude, 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.160 what's the fuck is popping right here? And he get 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.880 back in mood. Change. Next thing, you know, he looking 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.800 at me through the rear view. He's like, hey, man, 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.200 something happened up there at the up there at to jail. 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.920 I said, what happened your home boys they got into 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:15.080 it with should I said what? They's like He's like, yeah, 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.360 it's all bad. He gonna tell you about it when 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.840 you get there. So I'm like, oh shit, so this 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.400 is my first time going to really really sit down 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.760 and talk to him about about the record deal. So 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.840 he don't feel out. But there's msn't big Stown man. 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.919 They got hit to it with him, you know what 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.160 I'm saying, And uh, it was ugly. So when they 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.520 say that, I can assume that when they got into 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.800 it with him, they expected you to say fuck this 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.720 something not fucking with this nigga. Now they got into 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.119 it so cold. They forgot I was coming that day, 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.639 so they didn't even know. So I went up in 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:52.240 there and should like, so, what's happening. You're riding with 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.840 your homies? I said, first of all, what were we 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.240 talking about? Blah blah, this blah blah, and they told 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.600 me ran it down. I was like, for real. I 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.920 was like, dog, I'm gonna call I'm gonna call Big Style, 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.919 see what's going on with this? You know what I'm saying. 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.320 So I can't. I got back to the city. We 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.600 went over an house that was the home girl. Everybody 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.240 used to be over an housing on a buss bowl, 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.200 So you know, I pulled up to a biss boat. 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.560 As soon as I pulled up, Big Styles start cracking up. 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.080 I forgot your ass. What's going up there too? Oh shit? 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.920 Did they tell you what happened? I said, yeah, they 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.680 told me what happened. He said, he says Simon hot huh. 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:37.320 I was like, yeah, sure hotgg. He was like yeah, man, 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.359 you know we had we had some words. He said, 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.000 you know, it's all good. I was like, yeah, So 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.240 what y'all gonna do? He was like, man, we ain't 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.439 gonna do the dog Pound records over there. So I 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.879 was like, I ain't gonna do it. He's like nah. 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.439 I was like damn. I said, they want me to 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.520 come back up there though, and he was like, shit, 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.840 go up there, see what they're talking about. See if 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.159 they got some bread. So I went back and she 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.400 was like, hey, I can make you a movie star. 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.359 I could put you in get you Grammys, I can 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.160 have your billboards everywhere. I'm gonna have you on front 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.160 of magazines and all that. And I was like, hey, 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.840 let's do this. Because I had actually went and visited 0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.400 Dre before. You know what I'm saying, I had said 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.480 with Dre for a minute, and Drey was working on 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.040 King T album, and you know what I'm saying, I 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.040 got on that album. I did a song with Dove 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:39.960 C and Bull Rock, and you know, I wanted to 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.920 go on Aftermath exactly. You know what I'm saying. I 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.159 was like, shit, doctor Dre. You know you know what 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.159 that stamp about. You know what I'm saying. So I 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.399 wanted to I wanted to be on Aftermath, but he 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.120 had just found him and he was like, yo, you know, 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.199 the basic premise of it was he gotta do the 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.080 King T Ship the m Ship and then we could 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.840 figure something out, you know after that. And then Sugar 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.720 was like, nig I got to check for you right here. 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.440 So I was just like, yo, you know what, I'm 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.280 a kid with a kid at this point, you know 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.920 what I'm saying. And I'm like, yo, I take this money, 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:20.000 I take this fans, but it's in your face, yeah, right, 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.840 like I ain't no talking, and you know we're gonna 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.760 see what's up. It makes a difference when the nigga 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.280 go there. It is right there there, it is right there. 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.480 He said, he said, you're gonna be able to kick 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.199 your feet up, and I was like, yo, you know what, 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.480 I gotta take it. And then you know, to me, 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.200 sug had an ear for talent, you know, what I mean. 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.160 He had an ear for talent. Anyway, Death Row was 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.840 a historic label on the West Coast, even though everybody 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.720 had departed in two podcasts passed away unfortunately. Um, it 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.960 felt like a challenge to me, like, yo, if we 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.800 can get this backpopping, you know my legacy of BC 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.480 minute and being concrete, you know what I'm saying. So 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.080 I just went on ahead and took the deal. And 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.040 I was on the road. Niggas gave me two Death 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.760 Row chains of platinum platinum one and a gold one, 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.000 you know what I'm saying. And next thing you know, 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.400 I'm driving around and bends his own spree whales, you 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.320 know what I'm saying, and hitting the studio track record 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.239 and we just recording recording with everybody, you know what 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.280 I mean, and making albums man. And it was crazy. 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.160 And because child was still locked up and then he 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.160 got out. Now I knew what this time, man, Like 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.840 I said, Alone, Beach is a real close knit city, 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.880 right are you? You know the situations that Snoop and 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.280 Dads and then went through when they first left the Row, 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.840 it was a whole bunch of shit cracking. Oh yeah, 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.400 did you ever get caught up in the middle of 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.520 all that stuff. Oh yeah, I got caught up in it, 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.000 you know what I'm saying, Like death Row had a 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:58.080 lot of ops. Oh yeah, a lot, you know what 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.720 I'm saying. And they wasn't trying. They hear none of 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.600 that old hey man, I'm just rapping over there. They 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.000 don't want to hear that shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.280 So you know, we got into it a lot, man. 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:14.680 We got no brawls, shootouts, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.760 Like niggas following me around lake woo them all, you 0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.680 know what I mean, trying to get that chain off me, 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.720 you know what I'm saying. And niggas, niggas threating the 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.720 kidding that my kids. Thug behind that ship. Who got 0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.360 that crazy though crazy it got it, got it shit 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:38.000 get crazy, man, especially when you not like you said, 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.440 I'm not affiliated, but when you associated it don't give 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.600 nigga you buy as well be. We don't give a fuck. Yeah, 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.000 we don't get. We don't. We don't get. And like 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.720 I telled, niggas in this ship, you could be cool 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.680 with everybody, but it's just motherfucker's who just don't give 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.680 a fuck. Fuck. Yeah, you don't care if he crooked 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.600 and he cool and he just wrapped in this ship. 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.320 This nigga got death roll chain though. Yeah, that means 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.840 it's own goal. The niggas don't give a foot, you 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.960 know what I'm saying. It's like the thing heel is 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:18.720 man with all this shit. Man, motherfucker's always try to 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.320 trag the street elements to some shit. Yeah, and I'm 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.160 gonna tell you something that this is something that a 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.600 lot of people learn. The horrid one gorillas belong in 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.960 the jungle. My nigga businessmen belong in the business in 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.880 the boardroom. You feel what I'm saying. Because the two 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.600 just don't mix, My nigga, the two just don't Master 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.640 Pete once told me, don't try to have one foot 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.960 in the streets and one foot in the music business. 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:49.320 They don't mix, though, put both feet in the music business. Yeah, 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:56.200 but it's unfortunate for you that the environment that we 0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.720 grow up in and the associations that we they have had. 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.120 You could go four fledge, nigga. I'm just yeah, and 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.800 still then niggas don't give a fuck. They don't care, 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.760 don't they don't care. You could be two feet in 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:17.480 business one hand, the god and whatever and niggas who 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:23.160 knew you from the fifth grade gonna be fucked that nigga. Yeah, yeah, 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.920 I went through a lot dog over there. I was 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.360 over there four years, you know what I'm saying, And 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.880 I went through a whole lot over there. But I 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:38.280 feel like, you know, that's whatever respect I got, It 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.680 came from being the only long beach nigga over there 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.360 and left and walking out, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.760 and never having no you know, oh should slap truck 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.920 or no, should did this? Or all of those horror stories, 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.720 no horror stories, none of that, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.719 And uh, you know that's just being I was just 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.360 always myself, dog like. I just never I never switched 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.720 up nothing. Yeah. So obviously all that stuff got resolved 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.080 because you've got great relationships with everybody now. Yeah, so 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.600 all that stuff resolved. Some people, some people gone, some 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.200 people on a permanent vacation. It's like, you know what 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:24.160 I'm saying, and some people is is, uh, you know, 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.960 we cordial again. I mean because I wasn't over there 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.400 trying to kick up no dust. I was over there 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.440 trying to make the greatest music I could make and 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.720 change my life with the music and do what I loved. 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.080 That's what I was. I dead for records trying to do. 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.200 You know what I'm saying. I wasn't over there for 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.200 the other ship. But the other ship, like Shoo told me, 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:51.120 He's like, it don't matter, It's gonna happen. Definitely, Yeah, 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.280 it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You know, Christally, when 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.360 you got the reputation for the label is known for 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.440 we known forgetting this shit. And it's not gonna change. 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.160 It ain't gonna change whether you come through the door, 0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.000 then get and go somewhere else. And we signed a 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.920 new nigga. Long as you are attached to death raw, 0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:16.080 it's gonna always come at you, period. So and I 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.840 learned a lot. So yeah, and that's cool, and you 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.520 got you know what I'm saying. It ultimately made your 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.160 name even bigger. Hell yeah, shit man, dog. We went 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.000 to New York, like when Shell got out, it was 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.799 really popping. You know what I'm saying. Shell got out 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.160 and got straight to it, you know what I mean. Billboards, 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.600 We did the double X sale magazine cover Rest in 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.400 Peace Left. I was on that cover, you know what 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.640 I mean. That was her last photo shoot. Johnathan Man, 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.960 you shot that. Shout out to him, you know what 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.480 I'm saying. We did everything every show you could think of, 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.399 Jimmy Kimmel, you know what I'm saying. All the way 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.680 to the East Coast. We was on Hot ninety seven. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.520 They was bumping my new single all like all that, 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.319 and Shug would also allow me to sit in some 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.440 of these meetings sometimes, you know what I mean, when 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.520 he was talking to power players in the industry. So 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.279 I was learning about the game by just sitting there 0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.400 soaking it up, you know what I'm saying. So it 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.160 wasn't all bad. It was. It wasn't all bad, you know. 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.440 But I feel like since he was kind of blackballed, 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.120 that we couldn't really put out no hits, you know 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:24.200 what I mean. And sometime hits make off all the negativity. 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.680 You overlooked the negativity because the hits is coming. But 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.360 if you ain't got no hits, then we're just looking 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.959 at all the bullshit that's going on and being like, Nigga, 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.919 this is some bullshit, you know what I'm saying. Because 0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.000 we didn't have no we didn't have no way to 0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.600 really distribute our ship. You know, he wasn't going for 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.320 the independent game. Should wanted to sell millions of records, 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.560 because that's what he was using. You know, I'm pretty 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.879 sure coming from the heights of he's came from Bow, 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.040 he wasn't trying to see nothing less than that. Yeah, 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.160 like he won and all that. When we went over there, 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.160 when they was doing projections and all that, he wasn't 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.840 feeling it what I'm saying, because he came from a 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.280 situation where he was used to selling millions and millions 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.080 of records, you know what I mean. And the game 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.359 was changing. He went in, he was like one or two, 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.880 you know, hip hop moguls. He came out, it was 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.000 full five and motherfucker's exactly. You know what I'm saying. 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.080 The game had changed up. Yeah, just that quick, man, 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:25.600 just that quick. Now. The Jarl was solve your situation amicably. Yeah. 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.040 We didn't see out when I when I left, you 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.680 know what I'm saying, I was like, it's time for 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.400 me to go because wasn't no music because decision or 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:39.759 was it a contract short decision? Well, the contract was up. Okay, 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.400 I did I did you know the four years. We 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.360 had a four year contract. I did the four year contract. 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.080 Contract was up. They wanted me to resign and I 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.920 was like, yo, you know what, I'm ready. I gotta bounce. 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.319 I need to put music out. Time is I can't 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.920 get this time back, you know what I'm saying. And 0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.120 we was doing little shit like we did uh Dysfunctional Family, 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.000 Eddie Griffin, he had this movie. We did the whole soundtrack. 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.080 I helped co produce most of the whole damn soundtrack, 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.200 you know what I'm saying. We had a lot of 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.719 players on there. Murder Ink came into play murder inc. 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.680 EARV Gotti came in, was like, well, look he kind 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.719 of I think he kind of knew Sugars hands was 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.440 tied to a certain extent. So Herv was like, Yo, 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.960 we'll take Krook and you know, we'll put them up 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.319 where you need to be, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.520 So so you almost wanted them murdering. So it was 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.200 almost a death Row Murderinc On my album. Yeah, you 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.680 know what I'm saying. That's why I did the Baby 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.200 remix with a Shanty. You know, when she did the 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.400 Baby song and went number one, I did the remix 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.920 first time I was number one on them, one or 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.480 six apart. You know what I'm saying, And you know, er, 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.000 I gotta say this. You know, EARV kept it real. 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.200 Not too many people. A lot of people always was 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.040 talking to me in the industry like yeah, I do 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:56.600 this with you, I do that with you, and they 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.200 they go ghost you don't even see him no more, 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.759 or it's just Hollywood shit, like yeah, man, we gotta 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.560 make sure we do this. You know, just a lot 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.839 of Hollywood shit. But HERB was like, listen, you want 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:11.759 the hardest niggers I heard ever. I'm gonna make sure 0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.120 your ship shake. He's like, we got the number one 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.919 record over here, you're getting on the remix. I left 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.200 the studio. I was like, hey, cool, that's what he's saying. 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.759 Next day, I was in the booth. Right after that, 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.680 I was at the at the video shoot. Right after that, 0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.799 I was coming out on a shanty set. Why she 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.279 had thirty thousand people in the crowd rocking my verse. 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.359 You feel me like he kept it all the way 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.960 one hunting, you know what I mean. And I appreciated that, 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.799 you know what I mean. But when that case hit, 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.440 everything scattered remember when yeah, they got they got hit. 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.600 What they It's almost like that was a concerted effort 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.680 from law enforcement. Really the ship off, you know, the 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.040 three powerful black labels, because you gotta remember Rap a 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.720 Lot Records was involved in that. They didn't get cracked 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.640 like they're the cast d though they got sugar and 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.560 they got herb. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Definitely yeah, 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.880 And it was like it was trippy man and being 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.800 you know, when I'm being on the road, they was 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.400 really trying to blackball. I would show up to concerts 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.400 by myself and they'd be like, nah, we can't let 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:24.280 you in. You know what I'm saying, Like as artists 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.439 here performing that said, if we let you in, they're 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.360 not performing. I ain't never even met did nothing to 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.960 these niggas well, you know what it was during that time, Crook. 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.399 I think the industry as a whole, because I think 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.719 everybody in this room heard about the mass whoopings that 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.160 was being passed out. I'm talking about grown niggas putting 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.040 their hands on other grown niggas, you know, not just 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.360 beat downs, but really defiling niggas. Man pissing on niggas 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.000 and you know, just all that shit come running up 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.560 in niggas cribs and all that just crazy stuff. Dog. 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.160 If they got to a time and I'm gonna tell 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.759 you some dog, I don't give a fuck how bad 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.560 and nigga think his reputation he was in the street, right, 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.880 it ain't no motherfucker batter than the federal government, my nigga. 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.160 But motherfuckers get tired of your ass and you think 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.640 you could walk around, you're putting your hands on motherfucker's 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.360 dog and doing all this crazy shit. After while, the 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.839 people with the pipical start going, U, we got something 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.799 for your ass, right, We're not alone it no more. Now, 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.120 I'll be telling you, since that time, you ain't heard 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.239 about no niggas running up in no labels like they 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.120 used to back then. That ship is not working. Dog. 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.080 You just can't force some motherfucker security. Yeah, they're not 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.279 letting motherfucker's in their buildings no more like that. That 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.640 shit stopped and they just changed that game. Man, that 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.160 that that behavior has changed the game because we weren't 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.959 taking that bullshit. Nigga's got tired of getting robbed. Because 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.400 I'm gonna tell you, dog, I'm gonna tell you like this, 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:47.080 Like I tell everybody else, Man, that small world that's 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:51.080 in the streets, that's really not reality. They live outside 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:55.080 the skibble with reality yields. Motherfucker's is getting niggas locked 0:40:55.080 --> 0:41:00.400 the fuck up, dog Man, dog locked all the way up, 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:05.200 you know. And and and you know, after that ship, 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:09.040 I was seeing a noticeable difference in the industry, how 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.000 people was moving around, you know what I'm saying. With 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.680 the security, like A said, with the motherfucking you gotta 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.160 have a code to get inside the building. You gotta 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.560 have a key card to go up the elevator. Like 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.000 everything was changing. You can't just run up in them 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.200 offices talking all that shit no more, you know, because 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.520 it's not real healthy dog and only niggas bring that 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.759 type of ship. You don't never hear about no rock star. 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.560 Motherfucker's doing no crazy shit like that, you know what 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.400 I'm saying. They said they dispute in the boardroom and 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.000 the lawyer, you know, the courthouse man, because I mean, 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:48.920 you know, payola and all that wasn't really created by us. Well, yeah, 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:54.319 we talked about baseball bats. Yeah you know what I yeah, 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.200 it was going in play this check this out. They 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.680 was only coming with baseball batsto dog when that's not 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.080 a month he didn't work. Yeah, when the money didn't work, 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.640 you know, when the money coming with the mother shit. Yeah, 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.799 but you know because that's what I mean, you know 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.319 how to go, man, Like these niggas was in there. Man, 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.600 they trying to get this money off these spins. Man, 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.360 they weren't taking no for an answer. You know, industry 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.200 was on some gangster shit. If you asked me no, 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.520 let me ask you this and this. Because I'm trying 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.000 to like a speaking pass a lot of shit. So 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.600 when when is the last time you actually talked to Sugar? Like, 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:28.960 how did y'all leave it? Did you talk to him 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.239 after he got into the situation with Old Boy when 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.839 he ran the brother over? I talked to him right 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.799 before then. That was the last time I spoke to him. 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.880 I talked to him right before then. Um, I was 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.080 filming the show. I did this show called One Shot. 0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:46.040 I created it for BT in twenty fifteen. UM. It 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.799 came out in twenty fifteen. UM. It was a It 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.160 was a platform that I built for independent artists. We 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.000 went around the world, went around America just trying to 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.279 find new rappers. Right, you know what I'm saying. And 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.520 then you know, whoever win the contest get a hundred 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.359 thousand dollars and an independent record deal. You know what 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.440 I'm saying. So I was in Miami shooting the Miami episode. 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.560 I had Callett. It was cracking, it was real, it 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.680 was real cool and um I had Swede hosting it 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.040 and all that shit. And I got a call and 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:22.839 was shug The should was like, yo, was hattening. I said, 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.640 oh man, I'm chilling. I'm in Miami. He's like, okay, okay, okay. 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.399 I thought you was out here. Man, I was gonna 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.960 ask you to do something. But you in Miami, Man, 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.640 what you're doing out there? I was like, oh man, 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.359 I'm just filming the show. You know what I'm saying, 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.680 Just doing my thing. He was like, A right, all right. 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.399 We had a little conversation, man, and left it at that. 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:44.160 But before then, you know, when I first left the 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.759 judge because they took they took me to court, The 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.439 label took me to court, and you know, try to say, 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.879 you know, I guess the legal department was like yo, 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.160 it was trying to stop me from being able to leave. 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:00.680 You know what I'm saying, so you old, some more 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.440 old old, some more records and all this kind of shit. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.200 So I went to court and the craziest shit happened. 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.600 I already knew. I was like, oh shit, and they go, 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.480 I'm good. I walked in because I'll be you ever 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:17.400 believe in signs or something like that. So I walked 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.239 in and the judge name was Judge good Man, and 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.040 I looked at that shit. I was like, okay, And 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:28.440 then they were saying, you know, they sighed was saying that, 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.239 you know, I still owe some records and blah blah 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:32.640 blah blah blah, you know what I mean. And they 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.120 was trying to say that, you know, they had me 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.920 under a new contract, and I was like, yo, I 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.600 already knew. It's like impossible to prove because I believe 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.000 the FEDS had already raided the building at that point 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.279 and they had took all the paperwork away. So it 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.279 was like I couldn't even tell you know what I'm saying, 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.600 like they came in and took all the computers and 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.080 everything when they raided Death Row. But anyway, the judge 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:58.760 winked at me. I already knew. I was like Okay, 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.960 I'm good, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, Yo, 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.359 y'all gotta pay him back for his legal fees. Y'all 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.960 gotta pay him back for this. He put a business 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.040 gag order on him because he's like, I don't want 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:14.120 nobody going to Universal Warner soon. He's saying that this man, 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.600 it's still on y'all label to intimidate nobody in the 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.560 business from doing any worked with him. If I hear 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.240 about it, it's gonna be a quarter million dollars fine 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.439 on you. Like he just threw the whole shit at him, 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:31.160 and you know, shouldn't like that, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.399 He didn't like that, man, And and I was like, 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.920 I gotta go talk to this nigga man because people 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:44.080 were saying stuff like like man should said wawawa, I 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.759 anna work? You know what I'm saying. So I was 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.400 on sunset one night when my god brother Jim get him, 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.960 and uh, I see should stand outside with like four 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.440 or five dudes. It was just me and Jim, But 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.839 I was like, dog, let's swoop up on him real quick, 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.919 jumped out, sure what was happening? Oh crook, come here, man? 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.520 I say, yo, what's going down. He was like, oh, 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.600 he said some things right. I ain't gonna say what 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.640 he said, but he said some things, and I said 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:16.960 some things right, and he started laughing. He said, that's 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.520 why I always fucked with you, because you crazy as 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:23.440 a motherfucker. And I was like, man, you know, niggas 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.560 just trying to do his business. You know what I'm saying, 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:30.520 That's just what it is. And after that we shook hands, right, 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:34.200 and it wasn't no more. Nothing was a gray area 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.120 no more. After that, you know what I mean, I 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.919 start seeing him at parties. You know, I go holler 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.960 at him for a second, you know, go do my thing. 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.360 And you know, he had called me when I signed 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.439 The Shady and he hit me up. He was like, listen, 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.320 I'm glad you with the white boy. That's what he 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.000 called him. You know, he's I'm glad you with the 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.319 white boy because he understand lyricism. He was like, he 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.960 understand lyricism. You know, a lot of these these record 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.080 labels they don't know what to do with a real lyricist. 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.279 But I feel like Eminem know what to do with 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.680 a real lyricist. You know what it's funny that you 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.840 go into this situation now with Shady because then that 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.520 was the formation. You guys have formed Slaughterhouse by this time, right, 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.319 you guys formed Slaughterhouse by this time. It was a 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.040 lot of excitement and a lot of anticipation around that. 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:25.040 How did that get blown in this array? How did 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:29.560 it get blown into this array? Not being on the 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.080 same page, you know what I'm saying, Like, we wasn't 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.440 the four dudes who was in the trenches with each other, right, 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.560 you know what I mean? And or Nigga Sambox niggas. 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.239 You know what I'm saying. We was put together. We 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.720 came together, the fans put us together. We was We 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.200 was taking advantage of the internet, bro, That's what it was. 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.480 I figured out a way to really pop off on 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.919 the internet. Joe figured out a way. Royce figured out 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:57.719 that Joel. So when we came together and did that 0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:01.080 one song, the Internet crash and it was like, oh shit, 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:02.840 let's do another one. I flew to New York. We 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.080 did another one. And then when I was in New York, 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:06.680 they was like, Yo, let's just do a group. We 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.640 did a group. We went on E one. But the 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.080 first album E one really didn't think that we was 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.920 gonna mount to nothing. They like, all these lyrical miracle 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.080 niggas ain't gonna do nothing. So they ain't really press 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.799 up much many copies, you know what I'm saying. That's 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.080 back when there was pressed the CDs and we sold 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.640 out in the first two hours, you know what I'm saying. 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.640 And then they was like damn. They was like, yo, 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.840 can y'all resign? We had a one album deal with them, 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:33.719 and we was like, hell no, y'all didn't even believe 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.960 in us. Why would we resign with y'all, you know 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.120 what I'm saying. So we took off, got got with shady, 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.239 you know what I'm saying, and uh, it was it was. 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:48.520 It was pretty cool. But that's when it started unraveling 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:57.240 our specific well, I mean, I'm gonna just speak freely, 0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.680 you know what I'm saying, Please do. I mean, that's 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:06.360 where we Joe Joe, but Joe Button, he my experiences 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.840 were dealing with him. He's not a good person, Okay, 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:14.160 you know what I'm saying. And that kept splashing on 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.200 to the to the group. Now everybody was we was 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:22.719 all making certain mistakes. I was drinking heavy, you know, 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.480 what I'm saying. I was drinking, I was, I was 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:28.040 turning up, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes, but 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.279 I knew how to do my job even when I 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.520 was you know what I'm saying getting fucked up. I 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.760 knew how to do my job. But at the same time, 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.239 who want the nigga to be drunk all the goddamn time? 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.800 So that's my that's me hold myself accountable for for 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:45.719 for my actions and Slarter House, you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:49.160 Joe was doing deal side deals, deals we didn't know about. 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:55.040 I mean shit, it was just side deals from himself 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.280 or the group for herself, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.439 And you know, and and and other than I don't 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.080 even care about that kind of shit because we all 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.520 got a hustle and grind it. We just me and 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.399 him don't mix. He don't fuck with me. I don't 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.319 fuck with him, you know what I'm saying. And it's 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:13.439 like somebody that knew him told me, hey, whatever you do, 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.920 don't let Joe be Joe. And I ain't know what 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.520 that meant because I was I just met him, and 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:20.960 he was like, you're gonna find out, And I found out, 0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.120 you know what I'm saying. So it became a situation 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:28.160 where I was like, you know what, I got off 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:32.000 liquor because it wasn't serving me, it wasn't giving me 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.759 any benefits, no positive benefits. I was catching ails on 0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:41.040 that ship, you know, DUIs jail, you know, cussing, motherfucker's out. 0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.080 I shouldn't have been getting into shit. I shouldn't have 0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.279 been getting into all that type of shit. I got 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:46.960 rid of that. I moved that out of my life. 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.360 So I'm like, you know what, I gotta move this 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.919 shit out of my life, you know what I'm saying, 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:56.759 Because this this ain't even it, you know, so you 0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:01.480 gotta manu. Yeah, you have to. You gotta let it go. 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.480 And it's like to stress you the fuck out when 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.040 you're trying to figure out, you know, the next move, 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.839 when the next move is just fuck the motherfucker. I 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.600 can't mix with that motherfuckers. So it's best for me 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.759 to just not even deal with it. Yeah, and I'm 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.440 not even like, you know, I'm not angry. I let 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.359 the anger go, because when you're angry, it's like you're 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.800 picking up a sharp knife to stab somebody. But you 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.879 picked up the wrong end and cut yourself. Yeah all 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:29.960 the time, you know what I'm saying. So I don't 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.480 harbor no anger, you know what I mean for the situation, 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.920 no more. I let that all go. But it was 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.520 it was just one of those things to where you know, 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.799 Royce didn't want to do the three man group, just me, 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:48.400 him and Joel when when Joe said he retired, he 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:52.560 was bent on trying to bring Joe out of retirement 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:54.520 and doing the four man group. But we just got 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.920 to the point where me as a person growing and 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.600 trying to trying to be the best version of myself, 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.920 I can no longer stand next to that guy. I'm saying, 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.359 I feel that and not see you guys have had 0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:12.279 some dialogue. Yeah, and wouldn't you on this show? Yeah? 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.880 The thing to pull up, y'all was on the pull up. 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.920 What happened? But that that episode, like Zapp must have 0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:25.680 missed something. That episode disappeared. That episode disappeared, you know 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.600 that that shit disappeared. I feel like it was a 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.320 good business move for him to make that that episode 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.799 go away because the conversation. I don't think the conversation 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.960 went the way him and his team wanted it. To go. 0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.560 So it was a good business move for just flushing 0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:44.960 down the stupid scrap that you know what I'm saying. 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:51.840 But you know, um, Slaughterhouse could have impacted the culture. 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.960 Were some dudes who knew how to rap very well. 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.759 But we didn't. We didn't impact or move nothing in 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.640 the ulture like we could have because we didn't grow 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.960 to that space ship. Now right now, you'll look at 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.320 Royce and Royce would be doing things for mental health. 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.839 He'll be trying to help you know, independent artists come 0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.560 up in this community. He's doing things to try to 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.600 impact the culture now as a as a you know, 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:21.200 as he's grown over the years, as he's maturing, you 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.399 see what I'm saying. Slaughter House didn't get a chance 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:27.600 to mature, be a brand and impact the culture. Yeah, 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.719 because there was a hell of an opportunity though. Yeah, 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.399 it was a hell of an opportunity that we had 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.879 the potential to do that We could have put our 0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:36.840 people on you know what I'm saying, put people in position. 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:42.200 We had an enormous opportunity to just to do whatever 0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.120 we want to do, and we didn't do it. We 0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:48.520 just got to the phase of Megan Records touring the 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.640 world and rapping like a motherfucker that was supposed to 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:56.960 change into something more dynamic, the more meaningful. Yeah, because 0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:00.640 you had a contingent of guys who were like amongst 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.840 the best rappers on the planet though, right amongst the 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.839 most lyrical guys on the planet. And I was looking 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.759 forward to really seeing that flourish and come to fruition. Yeah, 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.359 I was too. I tried to get it to crack off. Man, 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.920 I was going and having meetings, flying to Detroit, flying 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:17.000 to New York. I was trying to but I feel like, 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:21.440 you know, the universe was like, why you keep trying this. 0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.960 We're trying to tell you they ain't gonna work for you. Yea. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:27.160 The universe would definitely pull your ass in the right 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.799 direction when you were allowing Yeah, Doug, it's like you 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.040 you you you do it too much now, you know 0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:36.400 what I'm saying. And I felt like, you know, once 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:42.040 I feel like you disrespecting me, it's no more making music, 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:47.120 you know what I mean. I'm good, So you don't 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:50.759 want to with you, so you feel disrespectful, disrespect coming 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:55.239 in at a certain point. Absolutely absolutely when I man, 0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:57.960 I mean, listen, they say Okay, it's just a phone call. 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.160 To me, it's more than a phone call. If I 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.520 if I come to the table with a seven figure deal, 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:07.640 you know what I'm saying. And you don't even have 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.000 the respect for me to return my phone call. And 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.640 we got seven figures on the table, and you think 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.200 it's funny because see, they always say that I was 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.359 always doing a deal. O this nigga crook, always doing 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.040 a deal. That's the fucking way that I survived this game. 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.319 You know what I'm saying. I don't got top ten 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.080 hits and all that type of ship. I've been hustling 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.880 my whole time. I gotta keep making the money. I 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:36.839 gotta keep keep making shift flip. Like you said, I 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:41.000 can't rely on y'all reputation me for me how to 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:44.440 do something. My way of surviving in this game is 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:49.000 I gotta keep making connections and shit, some niggas want 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:53.080 you to just ride out on you. Let's just what 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:57.279 the fuck is that phone on my ear on the 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.560 tour bus? What y'all need? Y'all need some murder? A right? Cool? 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:03.279 That's coming? What's going on over here? Oh? You want 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.080 a verse from Royal? All right? Cool? Royce. They just 0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:06.800 they go on a verse. He got them to money 0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.600 and Yo, I'm doing that type of shit, you know 0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.520 what I'm saying. And so when I brought the money 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.480 to the table, it was really it was really something 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.359 to test everything out. The money was real, the deal 0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.080 was real, or my MoMA, they had the money rating 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.799 for us, you know what I'm saying. But Joe was like, 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:26.560 I'm not calling it. I ain't talking to him. He 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.800 kept seeing Royce at me, and I start getting frustrated 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:30.520 because I'm like just a grown man. He needed to 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:32.879 get on the phone with me because if he because 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:34.279 he didn't want to do the deal. If you don't 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.680 want to do the deal, tell me why, Maybe maybe 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.680 I could fucking go in there and get you what 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:40.520 you want. You want more money because you got a 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.160 popping podcast. All right, We're gonna get you more money 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.160 because you got a popping podcast. You know what I'm saying. 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.279 What you need, you feel me? But he wouldn't even 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.720 get on the phone with me, and I started feeling 0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:56.400 like Royce was enabling that disrespect by calling me and 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.319 calling me and being the middleman. Quit enabling that guy 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.960 until I got to jump on the phone on his 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.000 own phone, hand to his own business. You know what 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.040 I'm saying, because I so. It just became to the 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:09.960 point where I was like, you know what, I got 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.320 a whole lot of love for Royce, but I gotta 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.440 move away from this situation because that was the final 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.000 strong I was like dog And it ended up being 0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:24.520 a blessing that I did not do it. Because after 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.200 I made The Rise and Fall, a Slaughterhouse album with 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:33.000 Joel Ortiz, more information started coming out and people was like, Okay, 0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.320 this happened, and that happened. You didn't know that this happened. 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.400 You didn't know this deal. You wasn't part of this deal. 0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.080 You didn't like all the people that was in the 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:45.120 Slaughterhouse universe that was doing business with Slaughterhouse. They start 0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.560 revealing things to me that I never even knew. So 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:53.400 I was already getting bad treatment without even fucking knowing it. 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.680 You feel me. So it was like, you know what, 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:59.600 this was a good thing. It helped my mental health 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:04.600 a whole lot. I felt stress free after we you know, said, yo, 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.960 it's a ramp on this. You know what I'm saying. 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.640 Me and Joel jumped into booth. We put out two albums. 0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:14.040 We got an EP coming out and it probably like 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.360 a next Friday, so it's like we're back recording, having 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.480 fun with each other, you know what I'm saying. And 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:23.280 it was just one of those life life lessons. Dog 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.000 is just a life lesson, you know what I mean. 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.640 And it's you know, I wish I wish Royce all 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:30.360 the success in the world, you know what I mean. 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.280 And I don't want no harm to come to Joe. 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.760 I ran into Joe if I wanted to take off 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.400 on them, Joe, I had the perfect opportunity. I ran 0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.000 into him in Jersey at the hotel, you know what 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.160 I'm saying. After all this shit, we sat down and talked. 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.120 My main message I wanted to tell him was get 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:49.000 back to your boy maul Man because what happened with 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:50.840 him and Mall I just didn't like that, you know 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:52.600 what I'm saying. And I'm like, ma, I saw what 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.919 Maul did for you. I saw how Maul had Joe back. 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.400 I saw how he was in the trenches with you. 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:02.680 So for that thing unravel, how to unravel and what happened, 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.640 you need to make that right with mam Man. You 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:08.720 need to make that right with mom, So you know, 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.880 I mean, I told him how it felt. I got 0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:16.360 my bars off, like, Yo, my nigga, y'all niggas, y'all 0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:21.040 thought sh was funny. Y'all was disrespecting. I get uncomfortable 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:25.440 with niggas is disrespecting me. Yeah, yeah, don't you know 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.040 what I'm saying, like the fun with funny niggas. Yeah, 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:31.320 just just letting me know from the gate so we 0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.760 can just cut it. Don't be phony with me and 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:37.520 come into the studio and recording this shit. Just just 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:39.439 kick it off from the gate. Then we ain't gonna 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.560 have no animosity in the future. And I can go 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.080 ahead and do what I gotta do. But some niggas 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:46.280 want to play you sometimes and they want to test 0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.600 your manhood, but test to see what you about period, 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.440 because you know, you want to stand up nigga for yourself, 0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:55.840 that's what that be. And some niggas just don't like 0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:59.120 that ship. And then I say, we all come from 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.280 the same ship because we all trying to eat together 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:03.680 and get it in. But it's just some niggas who 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.640 feel like they just above you. Don't give a fuck. Yeah, 1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:10.200 I'm just you get me when you gotta dicking balls 1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:13.000 just like me, nigga. But some niggas just feel like, 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:16.960 because my pocket book might be a bit little bit bigger, 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.680 that they should get more respect or whatever. And I 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:22.240 have to tell niggas all the time, money don't buy 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:26.000 you respect, motherfucker. Yeah never you get now where we 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.520 come from, at least you give no none at all 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.000 where we come from. It don't give a fuck. You 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.240 could have been the biggest dog dealer in the hood, 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.600 all the low lows and everything, and there'd be a 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:37.680 nigga around the corner who ain't got ship to come 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:43.040 along and pop your motherfucking ass. That I'm looking at 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.280 niggas content of their character, you know what I'm saying. 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.560 That's when I'm looking at I'm just looking at the 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:50.080 content of the character. It sounds like somewhere along the 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.240 way you got real personal dog. And you know, when 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:57.400 you impacting other people's livelihoods, he can't. It already has 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.400 a tendency to have that funny feeling to it. It's 1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:04.240 already touch you situation. But when somebody purposely doing that, dog, well, 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.720 that's what I'm saying, dog like you know, it just 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:10.880 was one of them situations and I mean it was 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:13.720 good while it lasted, you know, but all good things 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:16.040 must come to an end, and all bad things must 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:18.800 definitely come to an end. Well you know what man saying. 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:20.680 So that was one of them bad things that just 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:26.080 needed to happen. And she don't last forever. She gonna 1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:29.280 come to an end. Eventually, everything comes to an every 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:32.360 everything and ship came la, whether it's good or bad. 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:36.080 One of these days it's gonna be time to sh 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:40.000 and do something else. If that show, that show called, 1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.720 you know, and even sometimes when some ship gets bigger, 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.720 it evolves and the different ship. Then stuff happens though, 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:50.000 especially entertainment, dog, Yeah, especially entertainment. Man. But I want 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.520 to kick this off to some more positive stuff dog, 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:54.640 because you've got a lot of positive shit going on. 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:57.920 Congratulations on that final drop that you just did or 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.280 it up good looking, man looking, And if I don't 1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:03.360 drop that, you just did it man, and you have 1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:06.720 an incredible podcast man, who I'm proud to say. Man, 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:10.720 you know we're doing some business amazing things together, me 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:14.040 and you and my boy Chris Moral over at law Speakers. Yeah, 1:02:14.080 --> 1:02:17.080 we're doing something to make it big man. Let's talk 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:19.160 about that because you one of the only guys I 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:21.080 know they was able to get the Eminem sit down 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.000 and then Depth Eminem sit Down. Yeah, it was dope, 1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:28.160 and they used they used the piece of that conversation 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:31.400 that I have with himinem Um on the program when 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:33.680 he was inducted to the Rocket Roll. How I saw that, 1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:38.760 Congratulations on that man. That that really made me feel 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:41.520 cool because I know that a lot of my ship 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:45.240 ain't clickbait, and you know, it's kind of hard to 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:48.840 compete with all these niggas that's out here gossiping talking shit. 1:02:49.080 --> 1:02:52.320 Oh believe me, I knew you know what I'm saying, um, 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.040 So you know, to see it rise to that level, 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:57.120 let me know that I was doing the right thing. 1:02:57.200 --> 1:03:01.240 But yeah, man, Crook's corner. Like I started, I started 1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:04.040 off with COB Radio. I had CB Radio with DJ 1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:07.120 Ski before a podcast to start blowing up, before the 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:12.400 podcast game blew up. I had COB Radio and I 1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:14.280 did that for like a year and I liked it, 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:17.000 but it was too much. I was doing music, I 1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:19.880 was touring, I had smarterhouses. This commitment. Sure, it was 1:03:19.880 --> 1:03:21.240 a whole lot of shit. So I was like, you 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:23.240 know what, I'm gonna put that down for now. But 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:25.720 when I came back with Crook's Corner, I was just 1:03:25.760 --> 1:03:28.160 at the crib one day and I was like, damn, man, 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.120 I need to talk to people about what I love. 1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:32.880 I love this hip hop shit. Let's talk about rap. 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:35.320 So I just start getting on my ig and talk 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:37.160 it to everybody in the room. I don't care if 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.240 it was a hundred people, two hundred people. And we 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:41.680 just started talking about rap music and hip hop and 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:44.040 all that shit. And I let them come on my 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.560 live and we'll just have a discussion. And I called 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:50.640 it Crook's Corner, and then that elevated to go on 1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:54.760 U Hip Hop DX. You know what I'm saying, and 1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:58.800 doing Crooks Corner over there visually with you know, interviewing people, 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:03.040 you know, E forty, Jermaine dupri you know what I mean, 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:05.520 all these people. And then you know, when I left 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:09.800 DX and did it myself, it kept on getting bigger 1:04:09.800 --> 1:04:12.560 and bigger, you know what I'm saying. So I ended up, 1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:14.640 you know, with the Snoop interview. Then I ended up 1:04:14.680 --> 1:04:18.400 with the Marshall interview. Sauce M was out here because 1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:21.560 for fifty he was doing something with fifty, and you know, 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:24.280 he was like, Yo, I'm being in town. Let's sit 1:04:24.320 --> 1:04:25.919 down or let's do this, you know what I'm saying. 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:28.160 So I was like cool because I know he don't 1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:30.520 give a lot of people interviews. Oh yeah, for sure, 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:34.400 I'm saying, I haven't never seen an Eminem interview. Yeah, 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:36.920 they you know, he don't give a lot of interviews. 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:42.000 So he felt real comfortable because we just talked tip hop. 1:04:42.320 --> 1:04:44.560 You know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo, he's just 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:47.280 gonna talk some rap. We did it a record one 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:52.160 that's you know, Doctor Dre Studio, and you know it 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:54.160 was a dope thing. His fans says, one of the 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:57.680 best Eminem interviews they ever seen, And that's I'm looking 1:04:57.720 --> 1:05:01.160 for that kind of stuff because I'm artist and I'm 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:03.360 not trying to come into this space like yeah, I'm 1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:06.800 a music journalist. I'm not. You know, I'm coming into 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:09.240 this space as somebody who love hip hop, and like, 1:05:09.320 --> 1:05:14.280 there's a fan first, and then that makes motherfucker's comfortable 1:05:14.320 --> 1:05:16.600 with you because they know it's going to just be 1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:21.400 a straight up conversation about about shit that's just straight up. 1:05:21.640 --> 1:05:23.600 You know, I ain't gotta worry about no curve balls. 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:26.400 I ain't gotta worry about no hidding agendas, none of that. R. 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:29.160 This is a nigga like me who's a fan of 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.680 hip hop, and we're gonna get up here and talk 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:34.320 about some hip hop and how far back and what's 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:37.000 your love and when you got into it? And and 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:41.760 that makes a motherfucker like him probably comfortable, especially knowing 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:44.240 you and dealing with you and knowing that you're just 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:47.680 not the typical motherfucking rap journalist type of shit. You 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:51.320 feel absolutely bro. Yeah, he was in there having a blast, man. 1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:53.360 You know what I'm saying. We was bringing up all 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:56.320 the old school shit. He's rapping trench lyrics and everything. 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:59.560 You know what I'm saying. It's just like that's that's 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:01.720 the vibe that I like to bring to the table. Man. 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:04.560 So you know, I'm happy that we're partnering up and 1:06:04.840 --> 1:06:06.640 we're about to do We're about to bring it back, 1:06:06.640 --> 1:06:09.600 even even man, they don't even know what's going down. Dog, 1:06:09.640 --> 1:06:12.920 it's about to go crazy. We're about to go crazy. Yeah, 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:16.720 we are about to man do some amazing things. Man. Well, man, 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:19.080 like they say y'all good things. We just say that 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:21.680 everything wants come to an end at some point in. Yeah, 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:23.240 at some point, I'd love to sit here because we 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:25.640 around and sit here. Dog, we wunna be going another 1:06:25.640 --> 1:06:27.800 two or three hours. Oh yeah, all the time. I 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.560 already know you know, I appreciate you coming to sit 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:35.280 down with us, man, and everybody. Makes sure. Man, if 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:37.600 you're not doing it already, make sure y'all go follow 1:06:38.160 --> 1:06:42.720 Fruck's Twitter. Fuck that has one of the most twitters 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:45.040 I've ever seen. Dog. I think you and Glasses Malone 1:06:45.160 --> 1:06:47.240 is the most Twitter and motherfuckers I've never seen in 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.760 my life. Yeah, hey, man, that's what it's here for. 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.360 You know what I'm saying. Like, listen, man, I tell 1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:55.720 all my homies that that's in the music industry. Don't 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:58.160 be that person that come around with your hand out. 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:01.280 You know what I'm saying. Don't be that person that 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:03.520 only every time I see you you want something for 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:06.480 me exactly. That's what you're doing as an artist if 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:09.040 you're not talking to the people. You know what I'm saying, 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:11.600 Talk to the people. Don't just go on Twitter where 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:14.000 you were gonna want them to download your single, buy 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.680 your merch and all that. Go talk to him on 1:07:16.720 --> 1:07:19.960 a regular basis, create a community and that's what we did. 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:22.959 We created a community on Twitter, the rap connoisseurs. Shout 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:25.040 out to the rap connoisseurs, you know what I'm saying, 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:28.440 And we just talk rap every single day. And you 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:30.480 know what I mean, we have all of the questions, 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:34.280 the crazy questions, and everybody jump in. Man, you just 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:37.000 you don't ever know a senator might jump into the 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:39.920 conversation real quick, you know what I mean, because they 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:43.760 just let like that. So that's Crooking and Thriago, you 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:45.600 know what I mean. Hit me at Crooking and Thriago. 1:07:45.760 --> 1:07:47.680 You know what I mean. We could talk rapp all day. 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:50.080 That's what we do. Hit me on Facebook, King Crooked, 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:56.720 ig King Crooked everywhere. Discord Chris Corner, if you're on Discord, 1:07:56.840 --> 1:07:58.960 Chris Corner, you know what I mean, come in. We 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:01.520 get real busy in there because we got some secret 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.560 rooms in Discord where we could really talk that talk. 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:06.840 You know what I'm saying. That nobody ain't all you 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:09.680 know what I mean, that real exclusive shit. So yeah, 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:11.760 hit me on there, man, and just come fuck with 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:13.960 me Facebook all that shit. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:16.040 for sure, and go get that and go support that 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:18.240 final and they I just saw you just drop some 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:21.439 ship too, didn't you. I didn't drop ship, but I'll 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:23.880 be seeing all kinds of new ship coming out. I'm 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:28.320 working on ship right now. You know. Um, I'll just 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:31.759 be doing shit, man. I still got a love for studio. 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:34.920 I still got love for writing shit like that, So 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:38.599 I don't still love hearing. Yeah, I'll still be trying 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:41.720 to create. I'm working on some ship right now. My 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:45.360 boy robbed T over there mixing down, so I might 1:08:45.439 --> 1:08:47.600 have a project or two in the works. You know 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:50.040 what I'm saying. It's just a love of hip hop. 1:08:50.120 --> 1:08:52.599 Like you said, it's just the love it and it 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:55.439 ain't really about you know. You know, everybody gets in 1:08:55.439 --> 1:08:59.080 this ship to make money, right, but where it starts 1:08:59.160 --> 1:09:00.760 is you gotta have the love and the heart for 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:02.840 it first, you know what I'm saying. And that's how 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.439 I'm able to sustain and able to still be able 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:07.720 to go in the studio and do shit, listen to 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.479 new artists and listen to you know what's happening, because 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:13.400 it's just in the heart. You know what I'm saying. 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:16.639 Ain't always about trying to check the dollars, just trying 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:18.320 to do something. You love, you know what I feel. 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:21.719 That's why we're sitting here right now. Hey, dog, while 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:26.559 we're here, I gotta say it bro the West Coast, 1:09:26.800 --> 1:09:32.519 right we talk about Chronic album, we talk about Doggie Style. 1:09:33.640 --> 1:09:35.880 You know what I'm saying When we're talking about some 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:39.439 of the staple albums to ever come out of the 1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:42.120 West Coast Man Music to Drive By, It's one of 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:46.839 them albums, period, point fucking blank. It's one of those 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:49.640 albums that you gotta mention in the same breath with. 1:09:49.840 --> 1:09:52.400 Nobody does it better. Nobody could do it better DC. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:55.960 You know what I'm saying. Like I said, Chronic, Doggie Style, 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:57.680 all that shit, you know what I mean? Like that 1:09:57.760 --> 1:10:02.640 motherfuckers shifted to the game? Music is so classic? Is 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:06.920 it aged perfectly? You could play that ship right now 1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:09.759 and that shit sounds great, you know what I'm saying? 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:14.200 Like Unknown and slipping you and all man Man listened, though. 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:17.400 I mean, I've been ryding. I'm gonna have my little 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:20.439 fan moment. I don't give a fuck. I've been ryding 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:27.400 with CMW since motherfucking uh most wanted punk rolling folk? 1:10:27.680 --> 1:10:33.440 Who's that playing all that up? The rhymes too funky? 1:10:33.720 --> 1:10:36.280 That's the whole thing. So my whole thing is this man, 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:40.200 we only West. I got Chris Corner. That's a rap 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:46.000 media platform. I'm gonna really start introducing these people out 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:49.639 there in the culture to the ship that really made 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:52.320 me who I am. You know what I'm saying on 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:55.080 that microphone. You know what I'm saying. And the ship 1:10:55.520 --> 1:11:02.519 that moved our coast tremendously that sometimes is not mentioned. Yeah, definitely. 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:05.599 And and I want to say, you know, coming from 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.800 your generation, it's a little younger than minds. A lot 1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:13.760 of people think we as older artists, don't accept the 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:19.280 younger generation, and it's far from the truth. When people 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:27.439 recognize what we had to endure as artists coming out, 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:32.120 you give me. They didn't want shit like they especially 1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:37.280 didn't want the nwas and the cmws. It was hard 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:42.200 for us to get recognition, especially following the footsteps of 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:46.519 you know, those originals from the East. You know, the 1:11:47.320 --> 1:11:52.000 Grandmaster Flashes and krs's and the public enemies and you 1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:55.479 know the just ices and those type of motherfuckers that 1:11:55.880 --> 1:12:02.400 set the foundation show going way back, way back. We 1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:07.479 grew up on what we knew on the West coast. 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.320 Get me and for a lot of us youngsters. You know, 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:15.800 we knew hard times. You know, we knew police brutality, 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:21.280 we knew homies getting killed, we knew you know, strawberry bitches, 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:25.160 fucking different niggas from the neighborhood, setting niggas up. You know, 1:12:25.520 --> 1:12:28.880 we went through that depression hit me, so it's what 1:12:28.920 --> 1:12:32.200 we spoke on. So a lot of niggas didn't recognize 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:38.760 us for being true mcs. And that's why that was crazy, 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:42.160 because we have y'allways hard y'all was man, listen, dog 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:44.519 and and and when I came in, I had to 1:12:44.560 --> 1:12:48.559 continue that fight because a lot of times when I 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.280 was on the East, they'd be like, yeah, man, you 1:12:50.360 --> 1:12:52.080 got bars. You don't rap like you from the West. 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:54.839 I'll be like, no, I do rap like a from Definitely, 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:58.880 y'all just haven't heard the West. And because we had 1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:04.639 so much diverse, we had so much diversity, and you know, 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:09.880 you always had that respected pen. I mean even like 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:14.120 you was in cream video, right. Yeah, So when I 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:19.160 saw that, that's when I said, they get it. Oh yeah, 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:21.720 definitely they get it. You know what I'm saying. I've 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:24.519 always been a true fan of East Coast rap. And 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:28.280 then uh just going back and just trying to solidify 1:13:28.520 --> 1:13:32.320 West Coast ship with niggas. I build reputations with dudes 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:36.400 like Premo and and Nas and Buster and Tratch and 1:13:36.760 --> 1:13:38.960 so I used to get respect going out there a lot. 1:13:39.120 --> 1:13:42.439 So it enabled me to blend in and and just 1:13:42.840 --> 1:13:45.519 niggas were just hitting me eight plus you ask it. 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.240 Plus you had some of the loops before they even 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:52.040 touched them. Yes, just get that part. That part definitely, yeah, 1:13:52.280 --> 1:13:54.559 that part, you know what I'm saying, Like I know, 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:58.800 I know y'all was digging it in print. Slip was dead. 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:01.519 We wanted to be different, Yeah, you know, the average 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:04.240 regular sounds. So that's where that came from. With all 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:06.160 the shit that this nigga got, you know, was still 1:14:06.200 --> 1:14:10.840 my favorite shit. Ill no, this is my favorite ship. 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:14.400 Pussy's so good that I can't even feel it, but 1:14:14.520 --> 1:14:17.920 I'm still killing. That was my ship right there, the 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:21.400 three with that ship, ride down the three with that 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:24.080 ship right there, like because he made you feel like 1:14:24.120 --> 1:14:27.080 you was in Compton, like you was just rolling around. 1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:29.880 And that's what I just talked for the average nigga 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:34.000 because unlike other I don't know, I don't want to 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.960 speak on other artists. But like other I was in 1:14:37.040 --> 1:14:40.519 the fucking streets every day. Yeah I was. I was 1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:42.640 in the streets every day. And even though I was 1:14:42.720 --> 1:14:46.240 rapping and making videos and going on shows and touring, 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:51.559 you know, I still represented Compton as hard as I could. 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:54.559 So I was in the streets like fuck it, you know, 1:14:54.680 --> 1:14:59.519 no security, no bodyguards, just just the homies, no riders 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:02.880 and fuck getting hanging on the block. And that's where 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:07.760 I got my motherfucking tales from the hood, so to speaking, 1:15:07.840 --> 1:15:10.600 that experience, but you had you could have said it 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:15.080 in any kind of way. The style your star wars fresh. 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:18.160 I just wanted to be different than and did because, 1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:20.479 like I said, when you're listening to rap, you're hearing 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:24.000 everybody's styles and everybody this and that, and I just 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:27.760 felt like I wanted to represent my section in a 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:31.080 different way. And then the thing was too bro. And 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:32.920 this is what always talking about last week in a 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:36.960 parking lot. You don't you never really wrapped over phone. 1:15:37.400 --> 1:15:41.640 Your ship was more of you've noticed that. I was 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.280 more of a storyteller like I didn't. But as far 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:50.120 as the fun after the West was heavily yeah, I did. 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:53.360 Like like you said, slip with digging the crates for shit. 1:15:53.520 --> 1:15:57.160 So we wanted to We wanted those sounds that was 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:01.960 different from what you would typically here coming from a 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:05.800 West Coast artist at that time, you know, everybody was 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:13.559 really Parliament, Funkadlis, George Clinton, uh Zap. Everything was Boo 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:16.680 Shop Shop. You know. That was kind of like the 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:21.640 just the one two for the West Coast. He was 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.479 just a musical dude. And like you said, Slip was 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:26.360 the type of dude when we would go on tour 1:16:26.520 --> 1:16:29.640 places he would always find record stores and go to 1:16:29.760 --> 1:16:33.719 different stores and he would just fiddle. He would fiddle, fiddle, 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:37.839 fiddle and find some of the craziest fucking album covers 1:16:37.880 --> 1:16:40.160 and pull it out and just look at it and 1:16:40.240 --> 1:16:43.800 be like, I'm gonna find something on this. And that 1:16:43.920 --> 1:16:47.360 was him. He was a motherfucking chop king like a motherfucker. 1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:49.760 But you know what, though, dog, we kept our heart 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:52.120 and we still do. We keep we keep close to 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:54.479 the heartbeat of hip hop, you know what I'm saying. 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:56.519 And I think that that's the reason why we're able 1:16:56.560 --> 1:17:00.000 to still sit here. I'm two decades plus in myself 1:17:00.120 --> 1:17:01.680 right now, you know what I'm saying, And it's like 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:04.920 stay close to the heartbeat of hip hop, man, And 1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:08.120 that's what we do. Dog. And that's crazy, man, you 1:17:08.160 --> 1:17:10.519 know because shout out Chill. You know, I didn't had 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:14.360 these conversations with Chill all night, you know what I'm saying, Man, 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:19.800 Like y'all niggas crafted us and then we said, all right, 1:17:20.600 --> 1:17:23.760 they did that. Now we gotta be different, definitely, you 1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:28.000 know what I'm saying. But we talking the same shit, 1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:31.559 just in different ways, you know what I'm saying. Like 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:34.080 our stories. You know, we got a lot in comment, 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:36.400 you know what I mean. But when you grow up 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:39.559 in this motherfucker, man, everything is gonna be the same. 1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:42.920 It might be told through different eyes, but shit, we 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:45.920 all came from the block, and we all experienced and 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:49.800 seeing what happens on the fucking block, whether you're claiming it, 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:53.560 banging it, or you're just living there and see the experiences. 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:57.880 So it's just the evolution of what I saw and 1:17:58.080 --> 1:18:03.639 now you seeing and then the youngsters that's there right now, basice. 1:18:03.800 --> 1:18:07.320 But shit, it's the same motherfucking block. Man, It's the 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:13.160 same same game, different players the same block. Yeah, y'all 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:16.800 get ready, you're gonna do something, man, Let's go that's 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:18.800 what the deals, and we out of here.