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Speaker 1: Jay, you know what it is. We're back with another

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Speaker 1: episode A Gangster chronicles your boy eight and I'm with

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Speaker 1: the homie Big Steal in the house was cracking, y'all.

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Speaker 1: And today we have a special guest. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to call him a special guest. The motherfucker is probably

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Speaker 1: one of the best rappers in the fucking world. Dog

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Speaker 1: just a lyrical motherfucker, the one and only King Crooked.

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Speaker 1: Ye know what, I'm here, lady Man. Finally, Dog, Lady,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you know Eight. I've been hitting the

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Speaker 1: homie up on motherfucking Twitter everywhere, Dog trying to get this.

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Speaker 1: He's been just nagging a nigga, just this exclusive. And

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Speaker 1: if you I guess he said, he finally said, fuck it,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and see this square here nigga, Na

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Speaker 1: you know that you soon as you called, I was

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Speaker 1: with it. No, yeah, no, he was here. Man, No problems.

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Speaker 1: I'll be here. Man. We ain't got no, we ain't

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Speaker 1: got no bad We got no bad reputation or issues

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Speaker 1: with my boy Crook and everything is all is all gravy.

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Speaker 1: So glad to have you're on the show, man, Man,

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Speaker 1: Glad to be here. Thanks to invite me to the party. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the gainst the Chronicles. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: some gangster shit. Oh no, man, you know what, Man,

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Speaker 1: Actually the Gangster Chronicles is expanding a little bit beyond

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Speaker 1: just the normal gangster ship. Dog. We touched on some

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Speaker 1: everything dogs. You know what I'm saying. We got to

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Speaker 1: show people that, you know, even though we come from

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Speaker 1: the streets, you know, people be questioning our intelligence, you know,

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Speaker 1: like we don't have the brains or we don't have

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Speaker 1: the knowings to have decent conversations or in depth stuff

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Speaker 1: to talk about that we ain't up on current events

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Speaker 1: or just the culture of things. You know, people look

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Speaker 1: at us and just a neighborhood gang and rapping and

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Speaker 1: gun toting and that's it. You know, vocabulary is kind

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Speaker 1: of small. So we like to show people that our

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Speaker 1: brains can venture more than just talking about what we

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Speaker 1: did growing up in the streets. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that our cognitive abilities are not subpart but on

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Speaker 1: the whole another level. You know what I'm saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if they must ain't listen to them albums, you know

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Speaker 1: they should have knew how sharp it was was going down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it show because it show ain't easy, man, And this

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Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning a little bit Man, east Side

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Speaker 1: Alone Beach, California to the east Side Jill l right,

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Speaker 1: p Nate Dog the Greatest. Oh yeah for sure. Ain't

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Speaker 1: nobody even closer? Man, Auto two can't even fade him. Man,

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Speaker 1: they were special when they get on your record, Dog,

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Speaker 1: you was liably go from sitling possibly one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: units of possibly going platinum. Dog. I was so mad

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Speaker 1: when they when they kicked me off of Virsion Records.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I had my first

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Speaker 1: single was Nate Me and Nate battle Kat produced it.

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Speaker 1: It was called this is for the Crooking Me, This

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Speaker 1: is for the Krug that's seen me. Babe. Yeah, God,

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Speaker 1: I was gate. I was only like eighteen nineteen. I

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Speaker 1: was ready to come back. Yeah, fire man. They came

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Speaker 1: in with a brown bag and said, everybody darker than

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Speaker 1: this bad get out to build it. Janet Jackson, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, I remember that time when it happened. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy the Dog. I don't think people understand this. Dog.

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Speaker 1: Nate really made a difference on your record. He impacted

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Speaker 1: your sales absolutely. Nate got on that motherfucking yes, it

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Speaker 1: was over. It was radio all day radio. I remember

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Speaker 1: that motherfucker dog and did a met lead of hooks

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Speaker 1: the craziest thing. He was up there for about twenty

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Speaker 1: crazy and could Nobody whoever came on after him was

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Speaker 1: You know you being from Long Beach, Version was your

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Speaker 1: first label. That was the first label that she was on, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the Russell was the ship. Yeah, I played against

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Speaker 1: would feel like a tank coming through their up. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thoughts don't making hill of a play. I tackled him, Dog,

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Speaker 1: but my shoulder wasn't right to this day, Dog, after

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Speaker 1: I hit that big eight ball and no joke, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, the city turned out a lot of great

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Speaker 1: football players. Man, Polly High is really Oh definitely, it's

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Speaker 1: Long Beach. Probably Ill said hell, no, why for you? Man?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Dog, I worked hard to get. I

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna even say nothing about that one. No, But

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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe he didn't want him to follow

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Speaker 1: I remember the ship I was down. Yeah, I remember, shit,

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Speaker 1: and very impressionable. I ain't gonna lie, dog, the streets

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Speaker 1: was fun as a motherfucker. Right, it was fun. It

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Speaker 1: was one of my moms used to sing, right, my

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Speaker 1: So she always I wanted to wrap since I was eight,

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Speaker 1: They they wasn't for it. They was not for the

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Speaker 1: hell no, yeah, nigga, you get to go do something.

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Speaker 1: coming from motherfuckers who was hard working people, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, coming from the South, like like music

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Speaker 1: You gotta think there was the eighties, right, Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: eighties was man. Listen man, eighties croker sacks. Man, they're

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Speaker 1: very curls. It was hard back high school, fighting with

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Speaker 1: and I remember when that ship happened. Dog, it was cracking.

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Speaker 1: It was motherfucker's getting robbed in the parking lot, motherfuckers

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Speaker 1: getting beat up because you think about it, everybody from

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Speaker 1: different niggas from everywhere else. They alone Beach numb A,

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Speaker 1: Long Beaches one of them type of cities. Long Beaches

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Speaker 1: are all blue city. For all those that don't know

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Speaker 1: out there ain't number of crips them, one ain't number

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Speaker 1: got the Mexican homies, right, and that's and that's it.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that big of them. It's a big city,

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Speaker 1: but it's close knit. Yeah, absolutely, it's close knit. And

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Speaker 1: I've been coming since like eighty five eighty six, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I came out here, dog and the nigga needed

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Speaker 1: you know, I most niggas get support from the crib.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody sending me a bag. I came

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Speaker 1: Did you ever put that project out? Never came out?

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Speaker 1: fans your buts. Yeah, it's what you learn from that

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00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: fucking It's how you maintain and how you maneuver and

422
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: actually ship. That's life, dog. It's like you constantly learning,

423
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: even now as an older man. Right, It's certain experiences

424
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: I go through and I chalk him up his lessons.

425
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: Like even when something go bad, I say, you know what,

426
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: thank god, you know that was another lesson right there.

427
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: We don't fail, we learn for sure. And so you

428
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: got this situation. By now you got an incredible buzz

429
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: because I heard it. I started hearing about you during

430
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: that period when a nineteen Street compilation came out and everything,

431
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: and people were saying, man, it's a dude, long beach.

432
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: It's harder than rock him, you know what I mean,

433
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: And people was talking about you in that regard. It

434
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: made me definitely go check in on it. Right, So

435
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: when did you start fucking with the row? Fucking with

436
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: the Row? Well, after that situation went back independent. You

437
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm at I'm at Kinko's making

438
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: my own mixtape covers. See see that. See the young people,

439
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: they don't know, they don't know about that grind. You

440
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We was, We was going to studio,

441
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: buying studio time, you know, putting, putting projects together, doing

442
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: our own album covers, pressing our own stuff up, you

443
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and hand to hand trying to

444
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: get them off, you know what I'm saying. So I

445
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: was doing that and then I met some dudes from

446
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: from from Texas and they had a little independent label.

447
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: So I went down there and wrote for all their artists,

448
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I was keeping me

449
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: and that was keeping me afloat, you know. I was

450
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: just pinning for all their artists and I was keeping

451
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: me right. And then I got a knock on my

452
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 1: door and it was a big style and dads. They

453
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: had Dog Pound Records through Death Row, and they was like, yo,

454
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: we want you to come to death Row with us.

455
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I was like, Okay,

456
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: what's going down. It was like, yeah, we got to

457
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: meet with Shug. Shug was locked up. He was in

458
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Mule Creek, and I was like, all right, cool, so

459
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: flew up to go see Shugar. Now I come in

460
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: after them. I get to I get to Sacramento. Shug

461
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: got a tahoe that he'd been paying for at the

462
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: airport for his whole time he was incarcerating, you know,

463
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: airport parking as high as a motherfucker. So he paying

464
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: for this motherfucker for years for everybody who come to

465
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: visit him. So you jump into tahole, you know what

466
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Reggie was driving and we went up to

467
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: uh to go see Shug, and we stopped in the

468
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, and I didn't know what was going on.

469
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, well he stopped. Reggie jumped

470
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: out and got on the cell phone. He got back

471
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: in his whole mood change. I was like, man, what

472
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying,

473
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about an exit strategy. Shit, I know,

474
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: death row reputation. You don't know you're going on in

475
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. Let me ask you this. I

476
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: know we're from different sides. Yeah, snooped the party at

477
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: that time at the party, Okay, Now that's ay made

478
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: it extra weird for you. You You stopped off from the

479
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, a young chryp nigga from Long I'm

480
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just just a neutral, neutral nigga.

481
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: That dad got a whole bunch of a whole bunch

482
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: of seas in my family. You know what I'm saying.

483
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: Take that back. I shouldn't have said, because I mean,

484
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, just to be from the city, we grew

485
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: up like this, you know what I mean, Like this

486
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: is what it is. But um, you know. Yeah. So man,

487
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: they stopped in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, dude,

488
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: what's the fuck is popping right here? And he get

489
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: back in mood. Change. Next thing, you know, he looking

490
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: at me through the rear view. He's like, hey, man,

491
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: something happened up there at the up there at to jail.

492
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: I said, what happened your home boys they got into

493
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: it with should I said what? They's like He's like, yeah,

494
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: it's all bad. He gonna tell you about it when

495
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: you get there. So I'm like, oh shit, so this

496
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: is my first time going to really really sit down

497
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: and talk to him about about the record deal. So

498
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: he don't feel out. But there's msn't big Stown man.

499
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: They got hit to it with him, you know what

500
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And uh, it was ugly. So when they

501
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: say that, I can assume that when they got into

502
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: it with him, they expected you to say fuck this

503
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: something not fucking with this nigga. Now they got into

504
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: it so cold. They forgot I was coming that day,

505
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: so they didn't even know. So I went up in

506
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: there and should like, so, what's happening. You're riding with

507
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: your homies? I said, first of all, what were we

508
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: talking about? Blah blah, this blah blah, and they told

509
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: me ran it down. I was like, for real. I

510
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: was like, dog, I'm gonna call I'm gonna call Big Style,

511
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: see what's going on with this? You know what I'm saying.

512
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: So I can't. I got back to the city. We

513
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: went over an house that was the home girl. Everybody

514
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: used to be over an housing on a buss bowl,

515
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I pulled up to a biss boat.

516
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: As soon as I pulled up, Big Styles start cracking up.

517
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I forgot your ass. What's going up there too? Oh shit?

518
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Did they tell you what happened? I said, yeah, they

519
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: told me what happened. He said, he says Simon hot huh.

520
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sure hotgg. He was like yeah, man,

521
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: you know we had we had some words. He said,

522
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's all good. I was like, yeah, So

523
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: what y'all gonna do? He was like, man, we ain't

524
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: gonna do the dog Pound records over there. So I

525
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't gonna do it. He's like nah.

526
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: I was like damn. I said, they want me to

527
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: come back up there though, and he was like, shit,

528
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: go up there, see what they're talking about. See if

529
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: they got some bread. So I went back and she

530
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I can make you a movie star.

531
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: I could put you in get you Grammys, I can

532
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: have your billboards everywhere. I'm gonna have you on front

533
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: of magazines and all that. And I was like, hey,

534
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: let's do this. Because I had actually went and visited

535
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: Dre before. You know what I'm saying, I had said

536
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: with Dre for a minute, and Drey was working on

537
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: King T album, and you know what I'm saying, I

538
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: got on that album. I did a song with Dove

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: C and Bull Rock, and you know, I wanted to

540
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: go on Aftermath exactly. You know what I'm saying. I

541
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: was like, shit, doctor Dre. You know you know what

542
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: that stamp about. You know what I'm saying. So I

543
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to be on Aftermath, but he

544
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: had just found him and he was like, yo, you know,

545
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: the basic premise of it was he gotta do the

546
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: King T Ship the m Ship and then we could

547
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: figure something out, you know after that. And then Sugar

548
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: was like, nig I got to check for you right here.

549
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: So I was just like, yo, you know what, I'm

550
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: a kid with a kid at this point, you know

551
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm like, yo, I take this money,

552
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: I take this fans, but it's in your face, yeah, right,

553
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: like I ain't no talking, and you know we're gonna

554
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: see what's up. It makes a difference when the nigga

555
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: go there. It is right there there, it is right there.

556
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: He said, he said, you're gonna be able to kick

557
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: your feet up, and I was like, yo, you know what,

558
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: I gotta take it. And then you know, to me,

559
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: sug had an ear for talent, you know, what I mean.

560
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: He had an ear for talent. Anyway, Death Row was

561
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a historic label on the West Coast, even though everybody

562
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: had departed in two podcasts passed away unfortunately. Um, it

563
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: felt like a challenge to me, like, yo, if we

564
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: can get this backpopping, you know my legacy of BC

565
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: minute and being concrete, you know what I'm saying. So

566
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I just went on ahead and took the deal. And

567
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: I was on the road. Niggas gave me two Death

568
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Row chains of platinum platinum one and a gold one,

569
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And next thing you know,

570
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm driving around and bends his own spree whales, you

571
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and hitting the studio track record

572
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: and we just recording recording with everybody, you know what

573
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and making albums man. And it was crazy.

574
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: And because child was still locked up and then he

575
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: got out. Now I knew what this time, man, Like

576
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I said, Alone, Beach is a real close knit city,

577
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: right are you? You know the situations that Snoop and

578
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Dads and then went through when they first left the Row,

579
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: it was a whole bunch of shit cracking. Oh yeah,

580
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: did you ever get caught up in the middle of

581
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Oh yeah, I got caught up in it,

582
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like death Row had a

583
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of ops. Oh yeah, a lot, you know what

584
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they wasn't trying. They hear none of

585
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: that old hey man, I'm just rapping over there. They

586
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that shit, you know what I'm saying.

587
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: So you know, we got into it a lot, man.

588
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: We got no brawls, shootouts, you know what I'm saying.

589
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: Like niggas following me around lake woo them all, you

590
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, trying to get that chain off me,

591
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And niggas, niggas threating the

592
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: kidding that my kids. Thug behind that ship. Who got

593
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: that crazy though crazy it got it, got it shit

594
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: get crazy, man, especially when you not like you said,

595
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm not affiliated, but when you associated it don't give

596
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: nigga you buy as well be. We don't give a fuck. Yeah,

597
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: we don't get. We don't. We don't get. And like

598
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I telled, niggas in this ship, you could be cool

599
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: with everybody, but it's just motherfucker's who just don't give

600
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: a fuck. Fuck. Yeah, you don't care if he crooked

601
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: and he cool and he just wrapped in this ship.

602
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: This nigga got death roll chain though. Yeah, that means

603
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: it's own goal. The niggas don't give a foot, you

604
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like the thing heel is

605
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: man with all this shit. Man, motherfucker's always try to

606
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: trag the street elements to some shit. Yeah, and I'm

607
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something that this is something that a

608
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: lot of people learn. The horrid one gorillas belong in

609
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: the jungle. My nigga businessmen belong in the business in

610
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: the boardroom. You feel what I'm saying. Because the two

611
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: just don't mix, My nigga, the two just don't Master

612
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Pete once told me, don't try to have one foot

613
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: in the streets and one foot in the music business.

614
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: They don't mix, though, put both feet in the music business. Yeah,

615
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: but it's unfortunate for you that the environment that we

616
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: grow up in and the associations that we they have had.

617
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: You could go four fledge, nigga. I'm just yeah, and

618
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: still then niggas don't give a fuck. They don't care,

619
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: don't they don't care. You could be two feet in

620
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: business one hand, the god and whatever and niggas who

621
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: knew you from the fifth grade gonna be fucked that nigga. Yeah, yeah,

622
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I went through a lot dog over there. I was

623
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: over there four years, you know what I'm saying, And

624
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I went through a whole lot over there. But I

625
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's whatever respect I got, It

626
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: came from being the only long beach nigga over there

627
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: and left and walking out, you know what I'm saying,

628
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and never having no you know, oh should slap truck

629
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: or no, should did this? Or all of those horror stories,

630
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: no horror stories, none of that, you know what I'm saying,

631
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that's just being I was just

632
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: always myself, dog like. I just never I never switched

633
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: up nothing. Yeah. So obviously all that stuff got resolved

634
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: because you've got great relationships with everybody now. Yeah, so

635
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff resolved. Some people, some people gone, some

636
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: people on a permanent vacation. It's like, you know what

637
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and some people is is, uh, you know,

638
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: we cordial again. I mean because I wasn't over there

639
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: trying to kick up no dust. I was over there

640
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: trying to make the greatest music I could make and

641
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: change my life with the music and do what I loved.

642
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: That's what I was. I dead for records trying to do.

643
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't over there for

644
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: the other ship. But the other ship, like Shoo told me,

645
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: He's like, it don't matter, It's gonna happen. Definitely, Yeah,

646
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You know, Christally, when

647
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you got the reputation for the label is known for

648
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: we known forgetting this shit. And it's not gonna change.

649
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna change whether you come through the door,

650
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: then get and go somewhere else. And we signed a

651
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: new nigga. Long as you are attached to death raw,

652
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna always come at you, period. So and I

653
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: learned a lot. So yeah, and that's cool, and you

654
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: got you know what I'm saying. It ultimately made your

655
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: name even bigger. Hell yeah, shit man, dog. We went

656
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: to New York, like when Shell got out, it was

657
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: really popping. You know what I'm saying. Shell got out

658
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: and got straight to it, you know what I mean. Billboards,

659
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: We did the double X sale magazine cover Rest in

660
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Peace Left. I was on that cover, you know what

661
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean. That was her last photo shoot. Johnathan Man,

662
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: you shot that. Shout out to him, you know what

663
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We did everything every show you could think of,

664
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, you know what I'm saying. All the way

665
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: to the East Coast. We was on Hot ninety seven.

666
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: They was bumping my new single all like all that,

667
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: and Shug would also allow me to sit in some

668
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: of these meetings sometimes, you know what I mean, when

669
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: he was talking to power players in the industry. So

670
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: I was learning about the game by just sitting there

671
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: soaking it up, you know what I'm saying. So it

672
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: wasn't all bad. It was. It wasn't all bad, you know.

673
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: But I feel like since he was kind of blackballed,

674
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: that we couldn't really put out no hits, you know

675
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. And sometime hits make off all the negativity.

676
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: You overlooked the negativity because the hits is coming. But

677
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: if you ain't got no hits, then we're just looking

678
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: at all the bullshit that's going on and being like, Nigga,

679
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: this is some bullshit, you know what I'm saying. Because

680
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have no we didn't have no way to

681
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: really distribute our ship. You know, he wasn't going for

682
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: the independent game. Should wanted to sell millions of records,

683
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: because that's what he was using. You know, I'm pretty

684
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: sure coming from the heights of he's came from Bow,

685
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to see nothing less than that. Yeah,

686
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: like he won and all that. When we went over there,

687
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: when they was doing projections and all that, he wasn't

688
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: feeling it what I'm saying, because he came from a

689
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: situation where he was used to selling millions and millions

690
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: of records, you know what I mean. And the game

691
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: was changing. He went in, he was like one or two,

692
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, hip hop moguls. He came out, it was

693
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: full five and motherfucker's exactly. You know what I'm saying.

694
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: The game had changed up. Yeah, just that quick, man,

695
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: just that quick. Now. The Jarl was solve your situation amicably. Yeah.

696
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: We didn't see out when I when I left, you

697
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I was like, it's time for

698
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: me to go because wasn't no music because decision or

699
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: was it a contract short decision? Well, the contract was up. Okay,

700
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: I did I did you know the four years. We

701
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: had a four year contract. I did the four year contract.

702
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Contract was up. They wanted me to resign and I

703
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you know what, I'm ready. I gotta bounce.

704
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: I need to put music out. Time is I can't

705
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: get this time back, you know what I'm saying. And

706
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: we was doing little shit like we did uh Dysfunctional Family,

707
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Eddie Griffin, he had this movie. We did the whole soundtrack.

708
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: I helped co produce most of the whole damn soundtrack,

709
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We had a lot of

710
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: players on there. Murder Ink came into play murder inc.

711
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: EARV Gotti came in, was like, well, look he kind

712
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: of I think he kind of knew Sugars hands was

713
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: tied to a certain extent. So Herv was like, Yo,

714
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: we'll take Krook and you know, we'll put them up

715
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: where you need to be, you know what I'm saying.

716
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: So so you almost wanted them murdering. So it was

717
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: almost a death Row Murderinc On my album. Yeah, you

718
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's why I did the Baby

719
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: remix with a Shanty. You know, when she did the

720
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: Baby song and went number one, I did the remix

721
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: first time I was number one on them, one or

722
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: six apart. You know what I'm saying, And you know, er,

723
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: I gotta say this. You know, EARV kept it real.

724
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Not too many people. A lot of people always was

725
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: talking to me in the industry like yeah, I do

726
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: this with you, I do that with you, and they

727
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: they go ghost you don't even see him no more,

728
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: or it's just Hollywood shit, like yeah, man, we gotta

729
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: make sure we do this. You know, just a lot

730
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: of Hollywood shit. But HERB was like, listen, you want

731
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: the hardest niggers I heard ever. I'm gonna make sure

732
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: your ship shake. He's like, we got the number one

733
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: record over here, you're getting on the remix. I left

734
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: the studio. I was like, hey, cool, that's what he's saying.

735
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: Next day, I was in the booth. Right after that,

736
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I was at the at the video shoot. Right after that,

737
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: I was coming out on a shanty set. Why she

738
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: had thirty thousand people in the crowd rocking my verse.

739
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: You feel me like he kept it all the way

740
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: one hunting, you know what I mean. And I appreciated that,

741
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But when that case hit,

742
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: everything scattered remember when yeah, they got they got hit.

743
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: What they It's almost like that was a concerted effort

744
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: from law enforcement. Really the ship off, you know, the

745
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: three powerful black labels, because you gotta remember Rap a

746
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: Lot Records was involved in that. They didn't get cracked

747
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: like they're the cast d though they got sugar and

748
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: they got herb. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Definitely yeah,

749
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: And it was like it was trippy man and being

750
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm being on the road, they was

751
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: really trying to blackball. I would show up to concerts

752
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: by myself and they'd be like, nah, we can't let

753
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: you in. You know what I'm saying, Like as artists

754
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: here performing that said, if we let you in, they're

755
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: not performing. I ain't never even met did nothing to

756
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: these niggas well, you know what it was during that time, Crook.

757
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: I think the industry as a whole, because I think

758
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: everybody in this room heard about the mass whoopings that

759
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: was being passed out. I'm talking about grown niggas putting

760
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: their hands on other grown niggas, you know, not just

761
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: beat downs, but really defiling niggas. Man pissing on niggas

762
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: and you know, just all that shit come running up

763
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: in niggas cribs and all that just crazy stuff. Dog.

764
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: If they got to a time and I'm gonna tell

765
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: you some dog, I don't give a fuck how bad

766
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: and nigga think his reputation he was in the street, right,

767
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: it ain't no motherfucker batter than the federal government, my nigga.

768
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: But motherfuckers get tired of your ass and you think

769
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: you could walk around, you're putting your hands on motherfucker's

770
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: dog and doing all this crazy shit. After while, the

771
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: people with the pipical start going, U, we got something

772
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: for your ass, right, We're not alone it no more. Now,

773
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I'll be telling you, since that time, you ain't heard

774
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: about no niggas running up in no labels like they

775
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: used to back then. That ship is not working. Dog.

776
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: You just can't force some motherfucker security. Yeah, they're not

777
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: letting motherfucker's in their buildings no more like that. That

778
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: shit stopped and they just changed that game. Man, that

779
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: that that behavior has changed the game because we weren't

780
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: taking that bullshit. Nigga's got tired of getting robbed. Because

781
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, dog, I'm gonna tell you like this,

782
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Like I tell everybody else, Man, that small world that's

783
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: in the streets, that's really not reality. They live outside

784
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: the skibble with reality yields. Motherfucker's is getting niggas locked

785
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: the fuck up, dog Man, dog locked all the way up,

786
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: you know. And and and you know, after that ship,

787
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: I was seeing a noticeable difference in the industry, how

788
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: people was moving around, you know what I'm saying. With

789
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: the security, like A said, with the motherfucking you gotta

790
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: have a code to get inside the building. You gotta

791
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: have a key card to go up the elevator. Like

792
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: everything was changing. You can't just run up in them

793
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: offices talking all that shit no more, you know, because

794
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not real healthy dog and only niggas bring that

795
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: type of ship. You don't never hear about no rock star.

796
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's doing no crazy shit like that, you know what

797
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They said they dispute in the boardroom and

798
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: the lawyer, you know, the courthouse man, because I mean,

799
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, payola and all that wasn't really created by us. Well, yeah,

800
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: we talked about baseball bats. Yeah you know what I yeah,

801
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: it was going in play this check this out. They

802
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: was only coming with baseball batsto dog when that's not

803
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: a month he didn't work. Yeah, when the money didn't work,

804
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, when the money coming with the mother shit. Yeah,

805
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: but you know because that's what I mean, you know

806
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: how to go, man, Like these niggas was in there. Man,

807
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: they trying to get this money off these spins. Man,

808
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: they weren't taking no for an answer. You know, industry

809
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: was on some gangster shit. If you asked me no,

810
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: let me ask you this and this. Because I'm trying

811
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: to like a speaking pass a lot of shit. So

812
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: when when is the last time you actually talked to Sugar? Like,

813
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: how did y'all leave it? Did you talk to him

814
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: after he got into the situation with Old Boy when

815
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: he ran the brother over? I talked to him right

816
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: before then. That was the last time I spoke to him.

817
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I talked to him right before then. Um, I was

818
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: filming the show. I did this show called One Shot.

819
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: I created it for BT in twenty fifteen. UM. It

820
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: came out in twenty fifteen. UM. It was a It

821
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: was a platform that I built for independent artists. We

822
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: went around the world, went around America just trying to

823
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: find new rappers. Right, you know what I'm saying. And

824
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: then you know, whoever win the contest get a hundred

825
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and an independent record deal. You know what

826
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was in Miami shooting the Miami episode.

827
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: I had Callett. It was cracking, it was real, it

828
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: was real cool and um I had Swede hosting it

829
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and all that shit. And I got a call and

830
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: was shug The should was like, yo, was hattening. I said,

831
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm chilling. I'm in Miami. He's like, okay, okay, okay.

832
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: I thought you was out here. Man, I was gonna

833
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: ask you to do something. But you in Miami, Man,

834
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: what you're doing out there? I was like, oh man,

835
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm just filming the show. You know what I'm saying,

836
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: Just doing my thing. He was like, A right, all right.

837
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: We had a little conversation, man, and left it at that.

838
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: But before then, you know, when I first left the

839
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: judge because they took they took me to court, The

840
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: label took me to court, and you know, try to say,

841
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: you know, I guess the legal department was like yo,

842
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: it was trying to stop me from being able to leave.

843
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so you old, some more

844
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: old old, some more records and all this kind of shit.

845
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: So I went to court and the craziest shit happened.

846
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I already knew. I was like, oh shit, and they go,

847
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm good. I walked in because I'll be you ever

848
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: believe in signs or something like that. So I walked

849
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: in and the judge name was Judge good Man, and

850
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: I looked at that shit. I was like, okay, And

851
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: then they were saying, you know, they sighed was saying that,

852
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, I still owe some records and blah blah

853
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, you know what I mean. And they

854
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: was trying to say that, you know, they had me

855
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: under a new contract, and I was like, yo, I

856
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: already knew. It's like impossible to prove because I believe

857
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: the FEDS had already raided the building at that point

858
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: and they had took all the paperwork away. So it

859
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't even tell you know what I'm saying,

860
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: like they came in and took all the computers and

861
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: everything when they raided Death Row. But anyway, the judge

862
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: winked at me. I already knew. I was like Okay,

863
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm good, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, Yo,

864
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: y'all gotta pay him back for his legal fees. Y'all

865
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: gotta pay him back for this. He put a business

866
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: gag order on him because he's like, I don't want

867
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: nobody going to Universal Warner soon. He's saying that this man,

868
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: it's still on y'all label to intimidate nobody in the

869
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: business from doing any worked with him. If I hear

870
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: about it, it's gonna be a quarter million dollars fine

871
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: on you. Like he just threw the whole shit at him,

872
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: and you know, shouldn't like that, you know what I'm saying.

873
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: He didn't like that, man, And and I was like,

874
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: I gotta go talk to this nigga man because people

875
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: were saying stuff like like man should said wawawa, I

876
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: anna work? You know what I'm saying. So I was

877
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: on sunset one night when my god brother Jim get him,

878
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: and uh, I see should stand outside with like four

879
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: or five dudes. It was just me and Jim, But

880
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: I was like, dog, let's swoop up on him real quick,

881
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: jumped out, sure what was happening? Oh crook, come here, man?

882
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I say, yo, what's going down. He was like, oh,

883
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: he said some things right. I ain't gonna say what

884
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: he said, but he said some things, and I said

885
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: some things right, and he started laughing. He said, that's

886
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: why I always fucked with you, because you crazy as

887
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. And I was like, man, you know, niggas

888
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: just trying to do his business. You know what I'm saying,

889
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. And after that we shook hands, right,

890
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't no more. Nothing was a gray area

891
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: no more. After that, you know what I mean, I

892
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: start seeing him at parties. You know, I go holler

893
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: at him for a second, you know, go do my thing.

894
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: And you know, he had called me when I signed

895
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: The Shady and he hit me up. He was like, listen,

896
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad you with the white boy. That's what he

897
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: called him. You know, he's I'm glad you with the

898
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: white boy because he understand lyricism. He was like, he

899
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: understand lyricism. You know, a lot of these these record

900
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: labels they don't know what to do with a real lyricist.

901
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: But I feel like Eminem know what to do with

902
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: a real lyricist. You know what it's funny that you

903
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: go into this situation now with Shady because then that

904
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: was the formation. You guys have formed Slaughterhouse by this time, right,

905
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: you guys formed Slaughterhouse by this time. It was a

906
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: lot of excitement and a lot of anticipation around that.

907
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: How did that get blown in this array? How did

908
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: it get blown into this array? Not being on the

909
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: same page, you know what I'm saying, Like, we wasn't

910
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: the four dudes who was in the trenches with each other, right,

911
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And or Nigga Sambox niggas.

912
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We was put together. We

913
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: came together, the fans put us together. We was We

914
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: was taking advantage of the internet, bro, That's what it was.

915
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I figured out a way to really pop off on

916
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: the internet. Joe figured out a way. Royce figured out

917
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: that Joel. So when we came together and did that

918
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: one song, the Internet crash and it was like, oh shit,

919
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: let's do another one. I flew to New York. We

920
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: did another one. And then when I was in New York,

921
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: they was like, Yo, let's just do a group. We

922
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: did a group. We went on E one. But the

923
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: first album E one really didn't think that we was

924
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna mount to nothing. They like, all these lyrical miracle

925
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: niggas ain't gonna do nothing. So they ain't really press

926
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: up much many copies, you know what I'm saying. That's

927
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: back when there was pressed the CDs and we sold

928
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: out in the first two hours, you know what I'm saying.

929
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: And then they was like damn. They was like, yo,

930
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: can y'all resign? We had a one album deal with them,

931
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: and we was like, hell no, y'all didn't even believe

932
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: in us. Why would we resign with y'all, you know

933
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we took off, got got with shady,

934
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and uh, it was it was.

935
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. But that's when it started unraveling

936
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: our specific well, I mean, I'm gonna just speak freely,

937
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Please do. I mean, that's

938
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: where we Joe Joe, but Joe Button, he my experiences

939
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: were dealing with him. He's not a good person, Okay,

940
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that kept splashing on

941
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: to the to the group. Now everybody was we was

942
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: all making certain mistakes. I was drinking heavy, you know,

943
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was drinking, I was, I was

944
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: turning up, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes, but

945
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: I knew how to do my job even when I

946
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: was you know what I'm saying getting fucked up. I

947
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: knew how to do my job. But at the same time,

948
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: who want the nigga to be drunk all the goddamn time?

949
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: So that's my that's me hold myself accountable for for

950
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: for my actions and Slarter House, you know what I'm saying. Um,

951
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Joe was doing deal side deals, deals we didn't know about.

952
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean shit, it was just side deals from himself

953
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: or the group for herself, you know what I'm saying.

954
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: And you know, and and and other than I don't

955
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: even care about that kind of shit because we all

956
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: got a hustle and grind it. We just me and

957
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: him don't mix. He don't fuck with me. I don't

958
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: fuck with him, you know what I'm saying. And it's

959
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: like somebody that knew him told me, hey, whatever you do,

960
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: don't let Joe be Joe. And I ain't know what

961
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: that meant because I was I just met him, and

962
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: he was like, you're gonna find out, And I found out,

963
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it became a situation

964
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: where I was like, you know what, I got off

965
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: liquor because it wasn't serving me, it wasn't giving me

966
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: any benefits, no positive benefits. I was catching ails on

967
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: that ship, you know, DUIs jail, you know, cussing, motherfucker's out.

968
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been getting into shit. I shouldn't have

969
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: been getting into all that type of shit. I got

970
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: rid of that. I moved that out of my life.

971
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what, I gotta move this

972
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: shit out of my life, you know what I'm saying,

973
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Because this this ain't even it, you know, so you

974
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: gotta manu. Yeah, you have to. You gotta let it go.

975
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: And it's like to stress you the fuck out when

976
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, you know, the next move,

977
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: when the next move is just fuck the motherfucker. I

978
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: can't mix with that motherfuckers. So it's best for me

979
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to just not even deal with it. Yeah, and I'm

980
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: not even like, you know, I'm not angry. I let

981
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: the anger go, because when you're angry, it's like you're

982
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: picking up a sharp knife to stab somebody. But you

983
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: picked up the wrong end and cut yourself. Yeah all

984
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: the time, you know what I'm saying. So I don't

985
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: harbor no anger, you know what I mean for the situation,

986
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: no more. I let that all go. But it was

987
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: it was just one of those things to where you know,

988
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: Royce didn't want to do the three man group, just me,

989
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: him and Joel when when Joe said he retired, he

990
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: was bent on trying to bring Joe out of retirement

991
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: and doing the four man group. But we just got

992
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: to the point where me as a person growing and

993
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: trying to trying to be the best version of myself,

994
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: I can no longer stand next to that guy. I'm saying,

995
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: I feel that and not see you guys have had

996
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: some dialogue. Yeah, and wouldn't you on this show? Yeah?

997
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: The thing to pull up, y'all was on the pull up.

998
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: What happened? But that that episode, like Zapp must have

999
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: missed something. That episode disappeared. That episode disappeared, you know

1000
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: that that shit disappeared. I feel like it was a

1001
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: good business move for him to make that that episode

1002
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: go away because the conversation. I don't think the conversation

1003
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: went the way him and his team wanted it. To go.

1004
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: So it was a good business move for just flushing

1005
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: down the stupid scrap that you know what I'm saying.

1006
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: But you know, um, Slaughterhouse could have impacted the culture.

1007
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Were some dudes who knew how to rap very well.

1008
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: But we didn't. We didn't impact or move nothing in

1009
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: the ulture like we could have because we didn't grow

1010
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: to that space ship. Now right now, you'll look at

1011
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: Royce and Royce would be doing things for mental health.

1012
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: He'll be trying to help you know, independent artists come

1013
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: up in this community. He's doing things to try to

1014
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: impact the culture now as a as a you know,

1015
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: as he's grown over the years, as he's maturing, you

1016
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Slaughter House didn't get a chance

1017
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: to mature, be a brand and impact the culture. Yeah,

1018
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: because there was a hell of an opportunity though. Yeah,

1019
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: it was a hell of an opportunity that we had

1020
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: the potential to do that We could have put our

1021
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: people on you know what I'm saying, put people in position.

1022
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: We had an enormous opportunity to just to do whatever

1023
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: we want to do, and we didn't do it. We

1024
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: just got to the phase of Megan Records touring the

1025
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: world and rapping like a motherfucker that was supposed to

1026
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: change into something more dynamic, the more meaningful. Yeah, because

1027
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: you had a contingent of guys who were like amongst

1028
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: the best rappers on the planet though, right amongst the

1029
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: most lyrical guys on the planet. And I was looking

1030
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: forward to really seeing that flourish and come to fruition. Yeah,

1031
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: I was too. I tried to get it to crack off. Man,

1032
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I was going and having meetings, flying to Detroit, flying

1033
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: to New York. I was trying to but I feel like,

1034
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, the universe was like, why you keep trying this.

1035
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: We're trying to tell you they ain't gonna work for you. Yea.

1036
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: The universe would definitely pull your ass in the right

1037
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: direction when you were allowing Yeah, Doug, it's like you

1038
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: you you you do it too much now, you know

1039
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I felt like, you know, once

1040
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you disrespecting me, it's no more making music,

1041
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm good, So you don't

1042
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: want to with you, so you feel disrespectful, disrespect coming

1043
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: in at a certain point. Absolutely absolutely when I man,

1044
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they say Okay, it's just a phone call.

1045
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: To me, it's more than a phone call. If I

1046
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: if I come to the table with a seven figure deal,

1047
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you don't even have

1048
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: the respect for me to return my phone call. And

1049
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: we got seven figures on the table, and you think

1050
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: it's funny because see, they always say that I was

1051
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: always doing a deal. O this nigga crook, always doing

1052
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: a deal. That's the fucking way that I survived this game.

1053
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't got top ten

1054
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: hits and all that type of ship. I've been hustling

1055
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: my whole time. I gotta keep making the money. I

1056
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: gotta keep keep making shift flip. Like you said, I

1057
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: can't rely on y'all reputation me for me how to

1058
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: do something. My way of surviving in this game is

1059
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: I gotta keep making connections and shit, some niggas want

1060
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: you to just ride out on you. Let's just what

1061
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: the fuck is that phone on my ear on the

1062
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: tour bus? What y'all need? Y'all need some murder? A right? Cool?

1063
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: That's coming? What's going on over here? Oh? You want

1064
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: a verse from Royal? All right? Cool? Royce. They just

1065
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: they go on a verse. He got them to money

1066
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: and Yo, I'm doing that type of shit, you know

1067
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so when I brought the money

1068
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: to the table, it was really it was really something

1069
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: to test everything out. The money was real, the deal

1070
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: was real, or my MoMA, they had the money rating

1071
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: for us, you know what I'm saying. But Joe was like,

1072
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm not calling it. I ain't talking to him. He

1073
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: kept seeing Royce at me, and I start getting frustrated

1074
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: because I'm like just a grown man. He needed to

1075
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: get on the phone with me because if he because

1076
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do the deal. If you don't

1077
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: want to do the deal, tell me why, Maybe maybe

1078
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: I could fucking go in there and get you what

1079
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: you want. You want more money because you got a

1080
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: popping podcast. All right, We're gonna get you more money

1081
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: because you got a popping podcast. You know what I'm saying.

1082
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: What you need, you feel me? But he wouldn't even

1083
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: get on the phone with me, and I started feeling

1084
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: like Royce was enabling that disrespect by calling me and

1085
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: calling me and being the middleman. Quit enabling that guy

1086
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: until I got to jump on the phone on his

1087
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: own phone, hand to his own business. You know what

1088
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I so. It just became to the

1089
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: point where I was like, you know what, I got

1090
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: a whole lot of love for Royce, but I gotta

1091
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: move away from this situation because that was the final

1092
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: strong I was like dog And it ended up being

1093
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: a blessing that I did not do it. Because after

1094
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I made The Rise and Fall, a Slaughterhouse album with

1095
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: Joel Ortiz, more information started coming out and people was like, Okay,

1096
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: this happened, and that happened. You didn't know that this happened.

1097
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: You didn't know this deal. You wasn't part of this deal.

1098
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: You didn't like all the people that was in the

1099
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Slaughterhouse universe that was doing business with Slaughterhouse. They start

1100
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: revealing things to me that I never even knew. So

1101
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I was already getting bad treatment without even fucking knowing it.

1102
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: You feel me. So it was like, you know what,

1103
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: this was a good thing. It helped my mental health

1104
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot. I felt stress free after we you know, said, yo,

1105
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: it's a ramp on this. You know what I'm saying.

1106
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Me and Joel jumped into booth. We put out two albums.

1107
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: We got an EP coming out and it probably like

1108
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: a next Friday, so it's like we're back recording, having

1109
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: fun with each other, you know what I'm saying. And

1110
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: it was just one of those life life lessons. Dog

1111
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: is just a life lesson, you know what I mean.

1112
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: And it's you know, I wish I wish Royce all

1113
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: the success in the world, you know what I mean.

1114
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: And I don't want no harm to come to Joe.

1115
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: I ran into Joe if I wanted to take off

1116
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: on them, Joe, I had the perfect opportunity. I ran

1117
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: into him in Jersey at the hotel, you know what

1118
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. After all this shit, we sat down and talked.

1119
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: My main message I wanted to tell him was get

1120
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: back to your boy maul Man because what happened with

1121
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: him and Mall I just didn't like that, you know

1122
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm like, ma, I saw what

1123
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: Maul did for you. I saw how Maul had Joe back.

1124
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: I saw how he was in the trenches with you.

1125
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: So for that thing unravel, how to unravel and what happened,

1126
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: you need to make that right with mam Man. You

1127
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: need to make that right with mom, So you know,

1128
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I told him how it felt. I got

1129
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: my bars off, like, Yo, my nigga, y'all niggas, y'all

1130
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: thought sh was funny. Y'all was disrespecting. I get uncomfortable

1131
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: with niggas is disrespecting me. Yeah, yeah, don't you know

1132
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like the fun with funny niggas. Yeah,

1133
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: just just letting me know from the gate so we

1134
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: can just cut it. Don't be phony with me and

1135
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: come into the studio and recording this shit. Just just

1136
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: kick it off from the gate. Then we ain't gonna

1137
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: have no animosity in the future. And I can go

1138
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: ahead and do what I gotta do. But some niggas

1139
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: want to play you sometimes and they want to test

1140
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: your manhood, but test to see what you about period,

1141
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: because you know, you want to stand up nigga for yourself,

1142
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: that's what that be. And some niggas just don't like

1143
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: that ship. And then I say, we all come from

1144
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: the same ship because we all trying to eat together

1145
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: and get it in. But it's just some niggas who

1146
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: feel like they just above you. Don't give a fuck. Yeah,

1147
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm just you get me when you gotta dicking balls

1148
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: just like me, nigga. But some niggas just feel like,

1149
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: because my pocket book might be a bit little bit bigger,

1150
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: that they should get more respect or whatever. And I

1151
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: have to tell niggas all the time, money don't buy

1152
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: you respect, motherfucker. Yeah never you get now where we

1153
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: come from, at least you give no none at all

1154
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: where we come from. It don't give a fuck. You

1155
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: could have been the biggest dog dealer in the hood,

1156
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: all the low lows and everything, and there'd be a

1157
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: nigga around the corner who ain't got ship to come

1158
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: along and pop your motherfucking ass. That I'm looking at

1159
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: niggas content of their character, you know what I'm saying.

1160
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: That's when I'm looking at I'm just looking at the

1161
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: content of the character. It sounds like somewhere along the

1162
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: way you got real personal dog. And you know, when

1163
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: you impacting other people's livelihoods, he can't. It already has

1164
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: a tendency to have that funny feeling to it. It's

1165
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: already touch you situation. But when somebody purposely doing that, dog, well,

1166
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, dog like you know, it just

1167
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: was one of them situations and I mean it was

1168
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: good while it lasted, you know, but all good things

1169
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: must come to an end, and all bad things must

1170
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: definitely come to an end. Well you know what man saying.

1171
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: So that was one of them bad things that just

1172
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: needed to happen. And she don't last forever. She gonna

1173
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: come to an end. Eventually, everything comes to an every

1174
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: everything and ship came la, whether it's good or bad.

1175
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: One of these days it's gonna be time to sh

1176
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: and do something else. If that show, that show called,

1177
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, and even sometimes when some ship gets bigger,

1178
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: it evolves and the different ship. Then stuff happens though,

1179
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: especially entertainment, dog, Yeah, especially entertainment. Man. But I want

1180
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: to kick this off to some more positive stuff dog,

1181
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: because you've got a lot of positive shit going on.

1182
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: Congratulations on that final drop that you just did or

1183
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: it up good looking, man looking, And if I don't

1184
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: drop that, you just did it man, and you have

1185
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: an incredible podcast man, who I'm proud to say. Man,

1186
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: you know we're doing some business amazing things together, me

1187
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: and you and my boy Chris Moral over at law Speakers. Yeah,

1188
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: we're doing something to make it big man. Let's talk

1189
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: about that because you one of the only guys I

1190
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: know they was able to get the Eminem sit down

1191
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: and then Depth Eminem sit Down. Yeah, it was dope,

1192
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: and they used they used the piece of that conversation

1193
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: that I have with himinem Um on the program when

1194
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: he was inducted to the Rocket Roll. How I saw that,

1195
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Congratulations on that man. That that really made me feel

1196
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: cool because I know that a lot of my ship

1197
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: ain't clickbait, and you know, it's kind of hard to

1198
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: compete with all these niggas that's out here gossiping talking shit.

1199
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh believe me, I knew you know what I'm saying, um,

1200
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: So you know, to see it rise to that level,

1201
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: let me know that I was doing the right thing.

1202
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, Crook's corner. Like I started, I started

1203
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: off with COB Radio. I had CB Radio with DJ

1204
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: Ski before a podcast to start blowing up, before the

1205
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: podcast game blew up. I had COB Radio and I

1206
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: did that for like a year and I liked it,

1207
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: but it was too much. I was doing music, I

1208
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: was touring, I had smarterhouses. This commitment. Sure, it was

1209
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: a whole lot of shit. So I was like, you

1210
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna put that down for now. But

1211
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: when I came back with Crook's Corner, I was just

1212
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: at the crib one day and I was like, damn, man,

1213
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: I need to talk to people about what I love.

1214
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: I love this hip hop shit. Let's talk about rap.

1215
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: So I just start getting on my ig and talk

1216
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: it to everybody in the room. I don't care if

1217
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: it was a hundred people, two hundred people. And we

1218
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: just started talking about rap music and hip hop and

1219
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: all that shit. And I let them come on my

1220
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: live and we'll just have a discussion. And I called

1221
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: it Crook's Corner, and then that elevated to go on

1222
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: U Hip Hop DX. You know what I'm saying, and

1223
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: doing Crooks Corner over there visually with you know, interviewing people,

1224
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, E forty, Jermaine dupri you know what I mean,

1225
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: all these people. And then you know, when I left

1226
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: DX and did it myself, it kept on getting bigger

1227
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: and bigger, you know what I'm saying. So I ended up,

1228
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, with the Snoop interview. Then I ended up

1229
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: with the Marshall interview. Sauce M was out here because

1230
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: for fifty he was doing something with fifty, and you know,

1231
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, I'm being in town. Let's sit

1232
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: down or let's do this, you know what I'm saying.

1233
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: So I was like cool because I know he don't

1234
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: give a lot of people interviews. Oh yeah, for sure,

1235
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I haven't never seen an Eminem interview. Yeah,

1236
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: they you know, he don't give a lot of interviews.

1237
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: So he felt real comfortable because we just talked tip hop.

1238
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo, he's just

1239
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna talk some rap. We did it a record one

1240
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: that's you know, Doctor Dre Studio, and you know it

1241
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: was a dope thing. His fans says, one of the

1242
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: best Eminem interviews they ever seen, And that's I'm looking

1243
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: for that kind of stuff because I'm artist and I'm

1244
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: not trying to come into this space like yeah, I'm

1245
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: a music journalist. I'm not. You know, I'm coming into

1246
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: this space as somebody who love hip hop, and like,

1247
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: there's a fan first, and then that makes motherfucker's comfortable

1248
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: with you because they know it's going to just be

1249
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: a straight up conversation about about shit that's just straight up.

1250
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't gotta worry about no curve balls.

1251
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta worry about no hidding agendas, none of that. R.

1252
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: This is a nigga like me who's a fan of

1253
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: hip hop, and we're gonna get up here and talk

1254
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: about some hip hop and how far back and what's

1255
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: your love and when you got into it? And and

1256
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: that makes a motherfucker like him probably comfortable, especially knowing

1257
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: you and dealing with you and knowing that you're just

1258
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: not the typical motherfucking rap journalist type of shit. You

1259
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: feel absolutely bro. Yeah, he was in there having a blast, man.

1260
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We was bringing up all

1261
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: the old school shit. He's rapping trench lyrics and everything.

1262
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just like that's that's

1263
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: the vibe that I like to bring to the table. Man.

1264
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm happy that we're partnering up and

1265
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: we're about to do We're about to bring it back,

1266
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: even even man, they don't even know what's going down. Dog,

1267
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: it's about to go crazy. We're about to go crazy. Yeah,

1268
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: we are about to man do some amazing things. Man. Well, man,

1269
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: like they say y'all good things. We just say that

1270
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: everything wants come to an end at some point in. Yeah,

1271
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: at some point, I'd love to sit here because we

1272
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: around and sit here. Dog, we wunna be going another

1273
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: two or three hours. Oh yeah, all the time. I

1274
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: already know you know, I appreciate you coming to sit

1275
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: down with us, man, and everybody. Makes sure. Man, if

1276
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: you're not doing it already, make sure y'all go follow

1277
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: Fruck's Twitter. Fuck that has one of the most twitters

1278
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Dog. I think you and Glasses Malone

1279
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: is the most Twitter and motherfuckers I've never seen in

1280
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, hey, man, that's what it's here for.

1281
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, listen, man, I tell

1282
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: all my homies that that's in the music industry. Don't

1283
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: be that person that come around with your hand out.

1284
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Don't be that person that

1285
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: only every time I see you you want something for

1286
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: me exactly. That's what you're doing as an artist if

1287
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: you're not talking to the people. You know what I'm saying,

1288
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: Talk to the people. Don't just go on Twitter where

1289
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: you were gonna want them to download your single, buy

1290
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: your merch and all that. Go talk to him on

1291
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: a regular basis, create a community and that's what we did.

1292
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,959
Speaker 1: We created a community on Twitter, the rap connoisseurs. Shout

1293
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: out to the rap connoisseurs, you know what I'm saying,

1294
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: And we just talk rap every single day. And you

1295
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we have all of the questions,

1296
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: the crazy questions, and everybody jump in. Man, you just

1297
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: you don't ever know a senator might jump into the

1298
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: conversation real quick, you know what I mean, because they

1299
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: just let like that. So that's Crooking and Thriago, you

1300
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Hit me at Crooking and Thriago.

1301
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We could talk rapp all day.

1302
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: That's what we do. Hit me on Facebook, King Crooked,

1303
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: ig King Crooked everywhere. Discord Chris Corner, if you're on Discord,

1304
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: Chris Corner, you know what I mean, come in. We

1305
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: get real busy in there because we got some secret

1306
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: rooms in Discord where we could really talk that talk.

1307
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That nobody ain't all you

1308
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that real exclusive shit. So yeah,

1309
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: hit me on there, man, and just come fuck with

1310
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: me Facebook all that shit. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1311
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: for sure, and go get that and go support that

1312
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: final and they I just saw you just drop some

1313
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: ship too, didn't you. I didn't drop ship, but I'll

1314
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: be seeing all kinds of new ship coming out. I'm

1315
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: working on ship right now. You know. Um, I'll just

1316
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: be doing shit, man. I still got a love for studio.

1317
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: I still got love for writing shit like that, So

1318
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: I don't still love hearing. Yeah, I'll still be trying

1319
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: to create. I'm working on some ship right now. My

1320
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: boy robbed T over there mixing down, so I might

1321
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: have a project or two in the works. You know

1322
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just a love of hip hop.

1323
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's just the love it and it

1324
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: ain't really about you know. You know, everybody gets in

1325
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: this ship to make money, right, but where it starts

1326
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: is you gotta have the love and the heart for

1327
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: it first, you know what I'm saying. And that's how

1328
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm able to sustain and able to still be able

1329
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: to go in the studio and do shit, listen to

1330
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: new artists and listen to you know what's happening, because

1331
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: it's just in the heart. You know what I'm saying.

1332
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: Ain't always about trying to check the dollars, just trying

1333
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: to do something. You love, you know what I feel.

1334
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: That's why we're sitting here right now. Hey, dog, while

1335
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: we're here, I gotta say it bro the West Coast,

1336
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: right we talk about Chronic album, we talk about Doggie Style.

1337
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying When we're talking about some

1338
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: of the staple albums to ever come out of the

1339
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: West Coast Man Music to Drive By, It's one of

1340
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: them albums, period, point fucking blank. It's one of those

1341
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: albums that you gotta mention in the same breath with.

1342
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: Nobody does it better. Nobody could do it better DC.

1343
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like I said, Chronic, Doggie Style,

1344
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: all that shit, you know what I mean? Like that

1345
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: motherfuckers shifted to the game? Music is so classic? Is

1346
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: it aged perfectly? You could play that ship right now

1347
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: and that shit sounds great, you know what I'm saying?

1348
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: Like Unknown and slipping you and all man Man listened, though.

1349
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been ryding. I'm gonna have my little

1350
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: fan moment. I don't give a fuck. I've been ryding

1351
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: with CMW since motherfucking uh most wanted punk rolling folk?

1352
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:33,440
Speaker 1: Who's that playing all that up? The rhymes too funky?

1353
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. So my whole thing is this man,

1354
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: we only West. I got Chris Corner. That's a rap

1355
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: media platform. I'm gonna really start introducing these people out

1356
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: there in the culture to the ship that really made

1357
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: me who I am. You know what I'm saying on

1358
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: that microphone. You know what I'm saying. And the ship

1359
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: that moved our coast tremendously that sometimes is not mentioned. Yeah, definitely.

1360
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: And and I want to say, you know, coming from

1361
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: your generation, it's a little younger than minds. A lot

1362
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: of people think we as older artists, don't accept the

1363
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: younger generation, and it's far from the truth. When people

1364
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: recognize what we had to endure as artists coming out,

1365
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: you give me. They didn't want shit like they especially

1366
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: didn't want the nwas and the cmws. It was hard

1367
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: for us to get recognition, especially following the footsteps of

1368
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, those originals from the East. You know, the

1369
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Flashes and krs's and the public enemies and you

1370
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: know the just ices and those type of motherfuckers that

1371
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: set the foundation show going way back, way back. We

1372
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: grew up on what we knew on the West coast.

1373
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: Get me and for a lot of us youngsters. You know,

1374
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: we knew hard times. You know, we knew police brutality,

1375
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: we knew homies getting killed, we knew you know, strawberry bitches,

1376
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: fucking different niggas from the neighborhood, setting niggas up. You know,

1377
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: we went through that depression hit me, so it's what

1378
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: we spoke on. So a lot of niggas didn't recognize

1379
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: us for being true mcs. And that's why that was crazy,

1380
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: because we have y'allways hard y'all was man, listen, dog

1381
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: and and and when I came in, I had to

1382
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: continue that fight because a lot of times when I

1383
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: was on the East, they'd be like, yeah, man, you

1384
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: got bars. You don't rap like you from the West.

1385
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,839
Speaker 1: I'll be like, no, I do rap like a from Definitely,

1386
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: y'all just haven't heard the West. And because we had

1387
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: so much diverse, we had so much diversity, and you know,

1388
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: you always had that respected pen. I mean even like

1389
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: you was in cream video, right. Yeah, So when I

1390
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: saw that, that's when I said, they get it. Oh yeah,

1391
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: definitely they get it. You know what I'm saying. I've

1392
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: always been a true fan of East Coast rap. And

1393
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: then uh just going back and just trying to solidify

1394
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: West Coast ship with niggas. I build reputations with dudes

1395
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: like Premo and and Nas and Buster and Tratch and

1396
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: so I used to get respect going out there a lot.

1397
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: So it enabled me to blend in and and just

1398
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: niggas were just hitting me eight plus you ask it.

1399
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: Plus you had some of the loops before they even

1400
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: touched them. Yes, just get that part. That part definitely, yeah,

1401
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: that part, you know what I'm saying, Like I know,

1402
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: I know y'all was digging it in print. Slip was dead.

1403
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: We wanted to be different, Yeah, you know, the average

1404
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: regular sounds. So that's where that came from. With all

1405
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: the shit that this nigga got, you know, was still

1406
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: my favorite shit. Ill no, this is my favorite ship.

1407
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: Pussy's so good that I can't even feel it, but

1408
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm still killing. That was my ship right there, the

1409
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: three with that ship, ride down the three with that

1410
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: ship right there, like because he made you feel like

1411
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: you was in Compton, like you was just rolling around.

1412
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: And that's what I just talked for the average nigga

1413
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: because unlike other I don't know, I don't want to

1414
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: speak on other artists. But like other I was in

1415
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: the fucking streets every day. Yeah I was. I was

1416
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: in the streets every day. And even though I was

1417
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: rapping and making videos and going on shows and touring,

1418
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: you know, I still represented Compton as hard as I could.

1419
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: So I was in the streets like fuck it, you know,

1420
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: no security, no bodyguards, just just the homies, no riders

1421
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: and fuck getting hanging on the block. And that's where

1422
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: I got my motherfucking tales from the hood, so to speaking,

1423
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: that experience, but you had you could have said it

1424
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: in any kind of way. The style your star wars fresh.

1425
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be different than and did because,

1426
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: like I said, when you're listening to rap, you're hearing

1427
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: everybody's styles and everybody this and that, and I just

1428
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: felt like I wanted to represent my section in a

1429
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: different way. And then the thing was too bro. And

1430
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: this is what always talking about last week in a

1431
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: parking lot. You don't you never really wrapped over phone.

1432
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Your ship was more of you've noticed that. I was

1433
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: more of a storyteller like I didn't. But as far

1434
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: as the fun after the West was heavily yeah, I did.

1435
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: Like like you said, slip with digging the crates for shit.

1436
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: So we wanted to We wanted those sounds that was

1437
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: different from what you would typically here coming from a

1438
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: West Coast artist at that time, you know, everybody was

1439
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: really Parliament, Funkadlis, George Clinton, uh Zap. Everything was Boo

1440
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: Shop Shop. You know. That was kind of like the

1441
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: just the one two for the West Coast. He was

1442
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: just a musical dude. And like you said, Slip was

1443
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: the type of dude when we would go on tour

1444
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: places he would always find record stores and go to

1445
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: different stores and he would just fiddle. He would fiddle, fiddle,

1446
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 1: fiddle and find some of the craziest fucking album covers

1447
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: and pull it out and just look at it and

1448
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna find something on this. And that

1449
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: was him. He was a motherfucking chop king like a motherfucker.

1450
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, dog, we kept our heart

1451
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: and we still do. We keep we keep close to

1452
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: the heartbeat of hip hop, you know what I'm saying.

1453
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the reason why we're able

1454
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: to still sit here. I'm two decades plus in myself

1455
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying, And it's like

1456
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: stay close to the heartbeat of hip hop, man, And

1457
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: that's what we do. Dog. And that's crazy, man, you

1458
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: know because shout out Chill. You know, I didn't had

1459
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: these conversations with Chill all night, you know what I'm saying, Man,

1460
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: Like y'all niggas crafted us and then we said, all right,

1461
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: they did that. Now we gotta be different, definitely, you

1462
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But we talking the same shit,

1463
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: just in different ways, you know what I'm saying. Like

1464
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: our stories. You know, we got a lot in comment,

1465
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But when you grow up

1466
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: in this motherfucker, man, everything is gonna be the same.

1467
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: It might be told through different eyes, but shit, we

1468
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: all came from the block, and we all experienced and

1469
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: seeing what happens on the fucking block, whether you're claiming it,

1470
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 1: banging it, or you're just living there and see the experiences.

1471
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: So it's just the evolution of what I saw and

1472
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: now you seeing and then the youngsters that's there right now, basice.

1473
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: But shit, it's the same motherfucking block. Man, It's the

1474
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: same same game, different players the same block. Yeah, y'all

1475
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: get ready, you're gonna do something, man, Let's go that's

1476
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: what the deals, and we out of here.