1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, there's a security protocol on model year twenty 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: end up Nissans where they're not allowing anything but a 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: factory level scan tool to get in Dach. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Ready he's started. 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: He's a bond in what. 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: The car Doctor. I don't like it when you the 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: consumer and you the shop that's out there that's listening, 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: gets boxed into a corner and I want to try 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: and tell you the pitfalls as I see him before 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: it happened. But this is a problem. 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: the phone and call in. The garage doors are. 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Opening, but I am here to take your calls at 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: eight five, nine hundred and now pe. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: Running. 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: I was welding this week in the shop. I had 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: to do some I was repairing. Remember the seven f 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: one fifty. I was finishing it up this week with 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: the EVAP problem. I think we talked about that last 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: week where we had to smoke it and found that 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: the other Maybe I didn't talk about this. I'm not sure, 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: but uh I had I had a know seven f 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: one fifty that had a P zero four fifty six 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: small evap leak. Small A small evapp leak is defined 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: as less than twenty thousands of an inch over a 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: period of time, a loss of a vacuum or or 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: vacuum decay as the as the code definition reads. And 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: you're you're basically looking for a pimple on a flies behind. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's not quite that big. So we you know, 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: opened up the purge valve and and got a smoke 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: line into it, and using the speed smoke from redline, 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: we were able to pin down the the leak was 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: up around the charcoal canister, the vapor recovery module whichever 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: term you prefer, lowered the spare tire down, you know, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: found it and actually the leak was right at the 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: rubber seal. Well, it was two places really, it was 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: where the rubber seal, where the vent valve went into 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: the rubber seal. It had a split in the rubber, 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: just a little tiny hair. I've never seen one actually 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: wrought out because it's made out of that. It's not 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: just rubber, it's you know, it's got that shine to it. 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: We always used to call I think we used to 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: call it Viton rubber or Vyton rubber seal that it 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: was our Viton Vyton. I think it is Vyton. You know, 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: stuff has really good durability. Well not on this one, 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: not on this you know, almost sixteen year old f 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: one point fifty and you know needed that. But it 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: also had a broken tailpipe haannger. The hanger in the 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: back was broken. And you know, easy enough to do. 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: I take I take an exhaust clamp. I've got some 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, right angle welding or right angle right angle 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: exhaust haanngers. I make exhaust haangers out of it. You know, 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: put the clamp up, I'll lay the rod next to 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: the clamp somewhere. I'll figure it out. I'll mark it 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: out and I'll just tack weld it in place, take 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: it off the car, and then you know, do a 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: nice weld to it and weld it and it goes 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: on and you know, and this is so you don't 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: have to replace the pipe and the hangar and all 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: the parts that you can't get or don't want to 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: get on the fifteen year old, you know, four truck 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: and so forth. Well, you know, I'm welding and all 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: of a sudden I ran out of wire. I'm MiG 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: welding it. So there's there's wire that comes out of 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: the gun handle or the welder's gun. You know, MEG 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: is metal inert gas, meaning that a filler tube, a 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: filler material comes out the center. It's surrounded by the 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: gas that's coming out of the tank and it creates 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: a halo effect. As I remember my college professor saying, 73 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: that would protect the weld from many impurities as you 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: overexpose it, melt it and let it fuse together. And 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: you know you're doing this as it rolls down the 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: area that you're welding. And as I'm welding the filler 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: material the wire, I ran a wire. It just the 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: spool went empty. And just as the spool went empty, 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: the welder stopped. I've never had that happen before. I've 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: they run out of wire before. To be honest with you, 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: I just I guess we've been welding so much lately 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: that I just wasn't keeping up with it. So I said, oh, 83 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, look at this, it's a safety feature. You 84 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: can't weld with that wire and they're just keeping it 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: from hurting something the machine, the weld or you know. 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: So I you know, lifted up the cover, I transferred over, 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: put a new roll of wire on there, and the 88 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: machine still wouldn't turn on. I went, now, that doesn't 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: make any sense. Maybe it's not a safety feature. Look, 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: there's no breakers, there's no there's nothing to reset. There 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: was nothing in the instructions. I went out, you know, 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: I went out to Miller Welding, to the website and 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: got nothing there. And then I decided to give them 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: a call. And this was this was fun. It really was. 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: Actually Miller Welding is in Appleton, Wisconsin. They actually listened 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: to the Car Doctor radio show. I think it's on 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: WHB y twelve fifty am if I remember the affiliate directly, 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: and I got Jeff on the phone on tech support, 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: and you know, this was a this was an odd 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Car Doctor sighting because as we're talking, you know, I said, 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: I just asked him. I didn't really ask him, but 102 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: I said, gee, Appleton, Wisconsin, I said, he goes yeah, 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: he said have you ever been here? I said, well 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, and there was like that pregnant 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: pause on the phone, and all of a sudden, he went, Wow, 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: you're the car Doctor, aren't you. I said, yeah, yeah, 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: he says, I said, how do you know that? He says, 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: I listened to the show Ron, he says. He says, 109 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: I self admit, I don't catch it every week. He says, 110 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: but you do a great job. And I know your voice, 111 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: he goes, it's so distinctive. So look at that, right, 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: car doctor sighting and we chit chatted back and forth. 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Very good, excellent tech support, right excellent, you know, as 114 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: I would expect. Miller makes an excellent welder. And you know, 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: we got it back on the track and we determined 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 2: that the problem had to be that there wasn't power 117 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: coming out of the breaker out of the wall, the 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: cable out of the wall. So I know it. Said 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: thank you to Jeff, I got the information I needed 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: to email it to me. Thanks Jeff, I did get it, 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: by the way, in case you're catching this. And I 122 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: went about, you know, solving the problem for electricity coming 123 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: out of the wall, and you know, I called my electrician. Listen, 124 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things I'll do. The car Doctor 125 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: doesn't fool around with two hundred and twenty volt unless 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: he's absolutely certain. And I'm not an electrician and I 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: know my limits. So I stopped there. The fuse was good, 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: the breaker was good. I wanted a second opinion to 129 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: be safe. I don't fool around with that. So Mike, 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: who happened to be in the neighborhood anyway, stopped by, 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: and you know, real quick, he went in there, and 132 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: we found out that the cable, the lug on the 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: socket that comes out of the box, the lug fell apart. Now, 134 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: what are the odds that the minute, I mean the 135 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: second you ran we ran out of welding wire, the 136 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: lug broke, and we write like, just what are the odds? 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, that's life in a repair shop, and you've 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: got to be ready for the variety. You've got to 139 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: be ready for the you know, the what IFFs and 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: the whys and the house and all the things you 141 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: don't expect and and and when do they when do 142 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: they happen? And uh, you know, we put the put 143 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: the socket back together, and you know, and it works, 144 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's just, you know, it's just I wanted 145 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: you guys to hear, you know, the it's it's not 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: all easy peasy peaches and cream. You know, there's there's 147 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: there's trials and tribulations, there's moments where you're fixing the 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: machines that fix the cars, and then you can get 149 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: on with your day. And that's that's real life. That's 150 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: life in a shop. That's what happens. And you know, 151 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: it's it's no different than your job in the sense 152 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: of whatever you do to you know, make a living 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: and survive on the planet. So but that was that 154 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: was my week. That was well, one of the things 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: this week we had a short week. It was it 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: was first Friday, so we were closed on Friday. We 157 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: also came in on Friday because even though we're not 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: supposed to be, and we worked in the back room. 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: And you know, my biggest problem now is I went 160 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: through the old I went through some of the tool 161 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: cabinets for all those valuable tools I have, and now 162 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: I have to decide what to do with all the 163 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: four wheel drive sockets that worked on trucks in the 164 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: eighties and the nineties. You know, as Danny said to me, Ron, 165 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: you know the nineties, the early nineties was thirty years ago, 166 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: and I yeah, you know, it's like you know, all 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: those vehicles are gone. Made me think about tool turnover. 168 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: There's an awful lot of tool turnover in this business, 169 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: and it comes faster and faster. Never mind the electronics stuff, 170 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: just the just the mechanical side. You know, we've actually 171 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: got on the counter at the shop. We've got a valve. 172 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: It's a camshaft valve spring retainer tool was one hundred 173 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: and eighty six Bucks. Used it twice Ford Engines twenty 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: five years ago. Haven't used it since, but we needed 175 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: it for that job. Made me think, you know, is 176 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: it going to become common practice where things become a 177 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: a consumable? You know, body shops have consumables. Have you 178 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: ever read a bill from a body shop? If you're ever, ever, 179 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: unfortunately involved in an accident you have to get something 180 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: repaired to a body shop, you'll see consumer mbles. You know, 181 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: it's it's it's paint, it's material, it's rags, all right, 182 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: it's you know, they treat it as a consumable. If 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: they have to call out for more information, and if 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: a body shop has to download information from a manufacturer's 185 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: website to solve the problem fixing the car, that's a consumable. 186 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: That gets put on the bill, and you know, our 187 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: mechanical shops going to have to start to do that 188 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: at some point because the cost to keep up and 189 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: repair such intricate machines. It's not like a welder, you know, 190 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: the welder it was it could have been one of 191 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: three things after that you needed a welder. It was 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: just that simple. And it didn't come anywhere is near that. 193 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: But the car, you know, there's just there's just too 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: many little, as Mom would say, itchkey pitchkey pieces that 195 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, compile to make the whole thing what it 196 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: is and make it work. So just just food for thought. 197 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: It's always changing, it's always evolving. Eight five five five 198 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: six ninety nine hundred eight five five five six nine 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: nine zero Zero'm running any of the car doctor here 200 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: to take your calls. I'll return and well before you 201 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: before you goes. 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: I had a friend who in the in the industry, 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 5: not the car industry, but the broadcast industry, and he 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: had a saying. The saying was, before you can fix something, 205 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: you must first fix your test equipment. 206 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well and and and you know, and Tom, 207 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: that goes back even one step further. You know, I 208 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: remember a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about this, 209 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: how the first of the year, I go through all 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: my meters and leads and I make sure everything is calibrated, 211 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: and I'll actually throw out what a lot of people 212 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: would consider to be perfectly good leads and test probes. 213 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: Because test probes, the digital voltometer leads, test leads have 214 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: to have some crazy less than one one thousandth of 215 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: a of a percent of resistance on them because the 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: circuits that were measuring are so precise. You know, it's 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: coming down to you know what, I'm thinking of keeping 218 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: my some of my test probes in an air tight 219 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: bag so no moisture gets on, so there's no surface 220 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: corrosion or scale. And that's what we're working on. Eight 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: five five five six ninety nine hundred. I'm running any 222 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: of the car doctor accompanied by the always. 223 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: I once again, where. 224 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: You're going vehicle not taking you where you want to go? 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Well call Ron, He's the expert at making your vehicle 226 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: take you where you need it. Eight five five five 227 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: six zero nine nine zero zero And now back to Ron. 228 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: Hey, let's get over to let's go to fred in 229 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: Massachusetts fifteen hundred CRV no start Fred. Welcome to the 230 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: car doctor, sir, How can I help Hi? 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 6: How you doing about this? My daughter's car and I 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 6: don't know, a couple of months ago it started doing this. 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 6: It's got the push button. Start with the bob that 234 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 6: you got in your pocket and wherever you know, right, 235 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: and you get in and you step on the brake 236 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 6: like you're like you're supposed to and push the button, 237 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 6: and I would say ninety percent of the time the 238 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 6: car starts up fine. It's that other ten percent of 239 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 6: the time that she pushed the button and nothing happens. 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 6: So what we've done so far is change the batteries 241 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 6: and the fobs, because now the car is a twenty fifteen, 242 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 6: it's what nine years old, almost ten years old. And 243 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 6: we had the battery tested for the car, and that 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: showed that it was a little weak, also again being 245 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 6: the original battery. So put a new battery in there 246 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 6: and we UH. I also swapped the UH. I went 247 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: and bought a new uh at the local NAPA store. 248 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: I bought a one of the starter relays that goes 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 6: in the fuse box under the hood and pulled pulled 250 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 6: the one out that's in there and popped that one 251 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: in and none. None of that has made any difference 252 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 6: at all. So it does it about, like I said, 253 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: ten percent of the time. 254 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: When it When it does this Fred, when she's sitting 255 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: there and she's trying to start it, she pushes the button, 256 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: futs on the brake pedal. Did the dashlights come on? 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? Everything else looks totally normal. 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: Okay. Have you tried shifting it? Have you tried shifting 259 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: it while you're holding it in with your foot on 260 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: the brake when you're pushing the button. Have you tried 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: shifting it from park to neutral? 262 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 6: I have? 263 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: Note, don't let don't let the push button throw you. 264 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: It's a car with a starter, all right, you know, 265 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the the inputs are different that starter switch. All that 266 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: starter switch does is close a circuit and tell the 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: body computer that, hey, we're trying to start the car. 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: Go tell the PCM to energize the starter relay and 269 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: allow the starter to crank. I mean that's basically what's 270 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: going on now. That being said, this could also be 271 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: a bad starter. How do you eventually get the car 272 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: to start? 273 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 6: Just try it again? 274 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: Okay? And is it is it likely to do it 275 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: again and then not repeat for a while? 276 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 6: It's it's totally random, totally them. There's never a pattern 277 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 6: to it. So you know, I basically give given given 278 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 6: her the instruction to make sure she has a triple 279 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 6: A card with her right have you? 280 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a scan tool? By chance? 281 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Fred? 282 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 6: I do? 283 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: Is it just ob D tour? Will it go into 284 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: year make model? 285 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: I think it's just ob two, okay. 286 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Because I would want to you won't see enough. I 287 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: know here's a case where you won't see enough on 288 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: ob D two. You know I want to go in. 289 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: There is going to be a PID. It'll display that. 290 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: It's to show the starter switch state of you know, 291 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: state what is it is? 292 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: It? 293 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Is it on? Is it off? You know if we 294 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: could see that, do we do we see that switch? 295 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: I've seen very few problems with those push buttons. All right, 296 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: let me let me let me let me interject that 297 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: into the conversation. So before we assume that I'd want 298 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: to test it, but I would if we were at 299 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: the shop. The first thing I would do is do 300 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: I have any fault codes? Is there a moment where 301 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: the b CM reports in thing where the PCM reports 302 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: anything and you may see something PCM on OBD two 303 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't want to trust it. It would just skew 304 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: the diagnosis. And then my second step is, you know, 305 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: can I go down to the starter the starter is 306 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: fed by a red wire, goes down to connect her 307 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: four O four into a black white which then goes 308 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: and energizes the starter at the soloid? Can I pick 309 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: up that red wire out of the fuse box and 310 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: tap in a one ninety four side marker bulb. Here's 311 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: a perfect example of where we would use this, you know, 312 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: so at least when when it goes into this no start, 313 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: she can say, hey, Dad, the bulb didn't light. If 314 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: the bulb didn't light, then the problem is on the 315 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: feed side before the starter. If the bulb does light, 316 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: then the problem is either in the remaining ten inches 317 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: of wire the starter or the ground side of the circuit, 318 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: you know, or just right there's going to be I 319 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: would tell you to get a wiring diagram before we 320 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: just you know's there's probably a you know, twelve red 321 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: wires on this car. Uh, you know, but that's that's 322 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: that's the idea, you know. Imagine you know, imagine an 323 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: old school starter, right you had you had three wires, 324 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: you had starter solenoid. You had the hot coming down 325 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: from the cable and then you had the skinny red 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: wire that went out and fed the fuse box. So 327 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: we want to get to that solenoid feed wire, which 328 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: in this case, you know, if if I recall correctly, 329 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: it's a red wire coming out of the underhood fuse 330 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: box and it goes down through connector four oh four, 331 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: which is kind of buried under the intake metifold, which 332 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: is say, getting out of the fuse box is probably 333 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: easier if you can see it. And then it becomes 334 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: a black white and it goes down to the s 335 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: terminal of the starter. You know, it's can we we 336 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: have any voltage there? You know, and you know is 337 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: it missing? But before I do that, you know, can 338 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: we can we catch this thing in a in a 339 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: in a bad state with a scan tool in the 340 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: vehicle and then can we go look at you know 341 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: ignition switch position? Yes? 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: No? 343 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: True false? However it says it. And what I would 344 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: tell you to do, if you've got it on your mind, 345 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: to go out and buy a better scan tool, which 346 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: I would encourage you to do because you're inquisitive and 347 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: you'll appreciate it. You know, I would tell you look 348 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: at the car when it's working, so that you know, 349 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: look and think about the PIDs that you want start 350 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: looking through those PIDs. You know those those you know 351 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: what what is that? What does all that mean? And 352 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: you know there's this is where the Google machine will 353 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: come in real handy, and you know this way when 354 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: you want to see hey it's no crank boom, I 355 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: know exactly what I want to look for. I saw 356 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: it when it was good. You wrote down what happened 357 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: when it was good, and now you're going to see 358 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: it when it's bad. Because if you see that, yes, 359 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: it saw the starter switch, the BCM is receiving input, 360 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: the b CM is sending it over to the PCM. 361 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to send you down to the starter and 362 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: start looking there, all right, sir? 363 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 6: Right? So yeah, I mean when when you also asked 364 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: about you know, if I tried it in neutral moving 365 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 6: the shift that are neutral and that's the thing that's 366 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 6: happen into my mind, was you know a neutral switch issue? 367 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: Sure, oh yeah, it could definitely be that. You know, 368 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: treat it, treat it like it's a sixty three Chevy 369 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: and then come back and talk to me before you 370 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: change anything else. I appreciate it. 371 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: Fred. 372 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm ronning any and the car Doctor. We'll be back 373 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: right after this. Apollo Creed it's the Italian Stallion. It 374 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: sounds like a day of Monster movie. You know, who 375 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: doesn't remember when and where the first time they saw 376 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: a Rocky? You know, I actually saw it in the 377 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: Theories as a kid, and I was just Carl Weathers 378 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: was just you know, he was he was scary, right, 379 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: he was that big foe of Rockies. He was you know. 380 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: Now he's gone, just just like and just went to sleep. 381 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: And I guess that's the way to go if you're 382 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: gonna go. But uh, you know, mister Weathers, I just 383 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: want to say thank you for a great performance and 384 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: creating helping create a great uh a great legacy and 385 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: uh you know you'll be remembered and missed, so godspeed. 386 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 5: You know. 387 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: Tom, did you uh have a comment there? No? Tom's good? Okay, 388 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: Well you're. 389 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: Looking really But he was also in the movie Happy 390 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: Gilmore as the US the golf pro and thought. 391 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: And the Mandalorian, yeah, you know, and the Mandalorian. You know, 392 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: he was he was one of those actors that it 393 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: was kind of sneaky. He had that career that you know, 394 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: every time you turn around he was in something else. 395 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: And you know, but you know, I got to say 396 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: that Rocky always overshadowed everything else he did. I thought 397 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: I missed my opinion. I just, you know, because he 398 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: was just so perfect as Apollo Greed. I couldn't Apollo Creed. 399 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't see. 400 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it was it was funny. I almost 401 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 5: pulled a clip from Rocky three where he was going 402 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: to teach Rocky how to come back after Rocky had 403 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 5: been just sitting around doing nothing for months, and I 404 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 5: used this clip instead, And I'm glad I did, because 405 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: that other clip it didn't make any sense if you 406 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: just heard it. You had to see the video to 407 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 5: go with it. As he's sitting there punching the living 408 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 5: daylights out of Rocky and going, dude, come on hit me. 409 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember that too, But I don't know 410 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people have comments about the Rocky movies 411 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: that I think the Rocky series is great. I think 412 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of life lessons in there. So anyway, 413 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: it's back to the phone. Let's go to John and Marylyn. 414 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: John wants to talk about welding and obso lessons. John, 415 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, how. 416 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 5: Are you hey? 417 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: Thank you the nice tribute there to the lost actor. 418 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 7: So when I tuned in today to the show, you 419 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 7: were talking about welding. I'm an artistic welder, don't do 420 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 7: anything with autos and welding, but I was wondering if 421 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 7: you could expound on because you also talked in that 422 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 7: same segment about planned obsolescence and how things are going away, 423 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 7: and you know, you can get a elder on Amazon 424 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 7: today for one hundred dollars. You mentioned a great brand. 425 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: I've got a good brand myself that I use, but 426 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 7: a lot of folks are buying welders doing things in 427 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 7: their garage. I don't know about any statistics on accidents 428 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 7: or so forth, but replacement of consumables, not welding in 429 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: damp weather, that kind of thing. I was just wondering, 430 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 7: with all of your experience, if you could share some 431 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 7: of that knowledge. 432 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: You know, thank you. One of the things that's interesting 433 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 2: is I need a replacement wire for the MiG welder, 434 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: so you know, naturally I turned to Amazon. I don't 435 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: have time to run out during the course of the day. 436 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: My my regular supply house couldn't get it down to 437 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: me for four days and I needed it the next day. 438 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: And you have to be you know, you have to 439 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: be careful. I was up on Amazon and you know 440 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: I typed in O three to ozh wire, which is 441 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: what I needed. 442 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: Huh. 443 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: And you know every Tom Dick and Harry and Kakamemi 444 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: wire supplier in the world came up. And you have 445 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: to realize, you know, this wire has to meet a 446 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: certain specification in a certain CIA, and you've got to 447 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: read all the fine print. And you know, I picked 448 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: the Blue Demon. Blue Demon is a subcategory of Oh God, 449 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: the name escapes me now, but there are no name 450 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: here in the States. You know, made in USA. Good stuff. 451 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: You know, we're not looking for cheap, cheap, cheap overseas, 452 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 2: you know, offshore welding supplies, you know, because we've got 453 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: to realize what we're doing. We're welding, We're combining two metals. 454 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: There has to be strength. It's just not that you 455 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: get it to stick together. It's got to stick together 456 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: and be supportive for a long period of time. You know, 457 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: when I used to teach welding back in the day, 458 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: I always used to give an example. I would take 459 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: a piece of chain link and I would put it 460 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: on the desk in front of the kids, and I 461 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: would say, so you see this, Yeah, how do you 462 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: think they made this? And we would talk about how 463 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: you made a piece of chain You ever think about that, 464 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: John hod you make how do you make a piece 465 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: of chain rights? It's forging and it's bending the steel 466 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: around and it's hooking it through the next one, and 467 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: then it gets welded together. Right, It's got to be 468 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: fused together somehow. Think think of if we used poor 469 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: quality welding supplies or welding material. You know, a chain 470 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: is only as strong as its weakest link, as the 471 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: saying goes, and I always expanded on that whenever we 472 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: talked about welding, just you know, how safe and how 473 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: strong and how critical it is. The people that are 474 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: welding in their garages, you know, I think a lot 475 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: of them are going to find out the hard way 476 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: that it's not as easy as they think, and God 477 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: bless them. I encourage their you know, I encourage the 478 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: people that are curious, but I would also encourage them 479 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: to take a community college class at the least if 480 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: it's offered for the basics, for the safety. 481 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 6: You know. 482 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: You know, I won't let anybody in the shop touch 483 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: the tanks unless they've been through a safety course. I 484 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: don't care if they can outweld me, and that wouldn't 485 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: be hard to do. I'm not I'm not a huge welder. 486 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: I don't weld a lot anymore. But you know, if 487 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: you don't understand the basic safety in the the the 488 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: what can happen if you do the wrong thing. He 489 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 2: recently got our Oxya settling tanks, you know, refilled, and 490 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: when he came down, you know, the the we were 491 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: chaining the settling and oxygen in place, and he was 492 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: in a bit of a Russian and I said, no, no, 493 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: I said, you know, let's you know, let's do this, right, 494 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: I said, listen, I story, remember I story. Remember when 495 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: I was teaching, and and I can still see the student. 496 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: The oxygen tank fell over because they were in a 497 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: Russian Thank god, this kid was six foot five and 498 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: he caught it before it hit the ground. Oh god, yeah, yeah, oh, 499 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: because I know exactly where that tank was going. That was, 500 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: you know, and that's thirty five, almost forty years ago. 501 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: You know, they they say an oxygen tank with that, 502 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: if that valve gets knocked off, it'll go through a 503 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: concrete wall. It'll just be like a torpedo with propellant. 504 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: And you know, the the welding supplied delivery guy said no, no, no, no, 505 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: he says, they changed that. 506 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: I don't know. 507 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to find out the 508 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: hard way. So you know, if anybody out there is welding, 509 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: I you know, you don't want to find out when 510 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: you have a problem what went wrong because you didn't 511 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: know what could go wrong, at least know what could 512 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: go wrong as far as planned ops a lescence. I 513 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: think that. Listen. We pulled down a scan tool because 514 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: we're cleaning out the back room. We got a new 515 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: tire machine from Hunter, and we've got to rearrange the 516 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: back room at the shop and in our in our 517 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: in our downtime. Yesterday Friday was our first Friday off. 518 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: We're always closing. The first Friday, we went in Danny 519 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: and I and we, you know, started organizing the back room. 520 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's scary what's in the back room in 521 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: order to repair shop. It really is. You know, we 522 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: pulled out we pulled out an MPT twenty five hundred 523 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: snap on scanner. I didn't even know I had anymore, 524 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: which was the original we called it the brick was 525 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: the original scan tool that worked on cars from the 526 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 2: eighties and the nineties. Now, let's think about that for 527 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: a minute. How long ago was the eighties, in the nineties, 528 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: forty thirty and forty years ago? You know what, why 529 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: are we hanging onto this. I couldn't throw it out. 530 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: It's a little emotional, But you're the guy. 531 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 7: You're the guy that I say knows where all the 532 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 7: bodies are buried. 533 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But but but yet eighties and nineties, those 534 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: cars are gone. We're actually driving the eighties and nineties cars. 535 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: They just look like new Toyotas and Hondas, you know, 536 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: because we've melted them down and we've recycled them hopefully. 537 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: But you know, in order to repair shop, if they 538 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: went through their back room, I know, guys with tools 539 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: in their back room, they could work on cars from 540 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: the fifties and the sixties. And why those cars are gone. 541 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: It's changed. And if you don't get rid of the old, 542 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: you know, you got it. But so what do you 543 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: do collect trailers? And you know the back of the 544 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: shop becomes lined with trailers, and you're just storing parts 545 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: that your kids are gonna throw out when you die. 546 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, how many folks do that? 547 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's you know, the thing I don't like 548 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: about keeping older stuff too. If those cars are gone, 549 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: it clutters your thinking it. 550 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 6: You know. 551 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: I like looking at I like looking at fresh stuff. 552 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: Some things I'll keep. I found my I found my 553 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: buddy Richie, who's passed now twelve years. Richie and I 554 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: were best buds, you know, coming up in the business. 555 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: He was my six o'clock cup of coffee and I 556 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: his in the in the in the morning call, you know, 557 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: we would talk. And he passed though, twelve years ago 558 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: from leukemia. I found, I found, I found, Thank you. 559 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: I found Richie's timing light. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm 560 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: gonna hang it up on the wall in the shop. 561 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, I forgot that. I forgot that I had it. 562 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: You know, he gave it to me before he passed. 563 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: He said here. I said thank you because it was 564 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: a real it was a snap on. It was one 565 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: of the first power advanced timing light. Yeah, it's you know, 566 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: we don't use it anymore. What was the last time 567 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: you took a timing light out on anything? 568 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. I've never heard of one in the 569 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 7: past twenty years. 570 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's just but you know, there's your obsolescence. 571 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, I ought to repair costs so much because 572 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: of the tools you have to buy now and because 573 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: of the tools you bought twenty years ago. You're still 574 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: trying to justify and that's the problem, sir. So I 575 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I appreciate the call. 576 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: John. 577 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: You stirred up some memories and I thank you for that. 578 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 7: So thank you and good work. 579 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you have a great rest of the day. 580 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor eight five five 581 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. We're back right 582 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: after this. 583 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: Come in by. 584 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 6: Right up. 585 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: With them, back with thing. 586 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: Hey, we're back. We'reun n any of the car doctor 587 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: here at eight five five five six zero nine nine 588 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: zero zero. Thanks for sticking with us this the hour. 589 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: You know, John got me thinking right that order repair 590 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 2: is also you know, obviously a business is a business 591 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: like any other business, but you know there is a 592 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: motion involved in order repair, especially for the owner or 593 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: the technicians. I can look back as both and you know, 594 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: if you ever get a chance to come to the shop, 595 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: ask me. I'll show you my original associated battery charger 596 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy eight, if I remember right. And I 597 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: was like, you know, I guess that's I guess that 598 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: means you're going to be a gearhead, right, You're really 599 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: gonna work on cars your whole life. Because while everybody 600 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: else was going out and buying different things, I was 601 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: so excited I saved my money to buy a battery charger. 602 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: You know there must be you know, like, yeah, I 603 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: don't know, there's something wrong with me, Like I was 604 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: so excited. Look ma, look what I did. I put 605 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: a battery charger because every young boy needs one of those. 606 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 2: I still have that. I as I was talking to Jeff, 607 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: going back to the welding conversation at the top of 608 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: the hour, when I was talking to Jeff from Miller 609 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: Welding and I was talking to I have a Miller 610 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: Mattic to eleven and it was my friend Richie's welder 611 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: and he gave that to me also before he passed, 612 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: because that was the welder. You guys, shouldn't me talk 613 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: about the hot rod that was the welder that when 614 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: we made chassis modifications to the frame that we welded, 615 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: we use that welder to put the hot rod together. 616 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: And you know, there's just it sounds strange. I guess 617 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: there's just you know, but those those are the emotional 618 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: strings inside of a repair shop that you look at 619 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: and you can say, you know, hey, where did this 620 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: come from? Where did that come from? And it makes 621 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: you want to hang on to things. But a lot 622 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: of a repair shop is tossed on a much more 623 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: regular basis than you realize. And it has to be 624 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: because there's there's no room. You know. I recently had 625 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: a former employee, you know, he went on now he's 626 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: a national trainer for Automotive Training Group. Chris came in 627 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: and he was looking around the shop and it's getting 628 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: tight in the shop because we just you know, we 629 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: just keep collecting more equipment, more test stuff, more diagnostics, more. 630 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: He said, I think you're gonna have to start buying 631 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: some cinder blocks because we're gonna have to start adding 632 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: onto the building, which is you know, that's the next step. 633 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: You know, when does the shop add on? And then 634 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, how does it justify that expense? And it's 635 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, you take a well, I don't know 636 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: where's the timeline cut. I wonder if you take a 637 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: fifteen year old car to a dealership, can they work 638 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: on it anymore? Will they work on it anymore? I 639 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: you know, I hadn't thought about it in a while, 640 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: but I think there's a time cut. You know, I 641 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: think is it is it fifteen eight teen years? You know, 642 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: I know twenty year out, it's still work on it. 643 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: But it's I don't know, is it that easy for them? 644 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: Do they still have the tooling? You know, a lot 645 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: of what I said, and I've been saying for a 646 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: long time now is a computer car needs a specific 647 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: type of scan tool and even even dealer level tools. 648 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: You know, there was there were tech ones, tech twos, 649 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: then they went into the PC based platform, and I 650 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: think there's been three or four you know, Midi's and 651 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: there's three or four different Platinum since then. How many 652 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: of those, you know, do they have something to go back? 653 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: We had a here, we had we had a customer 654 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: bring us in eighty nine, nineteen eighty nine Chevy Caprice 655 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: four dor Sedan this week simple repair four tires and 656 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: some framework tyrod ins and center link and stuff. Nice repair, 657 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: nice car, right, Just you forgot how simple cars were 658 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: to work on. But you know, we started looking around 659 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: when I found the MT twenty five hundred, the brick 660 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: that would work on that car. That kind of generated 661 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: triggered the memory too. But you know it's it's time 662 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: passes and in a repair shop, I guess it's measured 663 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: by the tools you no longer use and by the 664 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: dust they collect sitting in the cabinet on the shelf, 665 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: and it makes you realize, you know what, it's time 666 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: to make room because there's more tools that are going 667 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: to be needed. Hey, coming up next, we're going to 668 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: be going in the shop courtesy the folks at autozoned. 669 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm running AD in the Car Doctor, and I'll be 670 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: back right after this. Don't go away, fulcome back run 671 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: an AD in the car Doctor. Kind of winding it 672 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: down this hour. You know, all this talk of tools 673 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: and obsolescens and old cars, new cars and the changes. 674 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: I guess this is a fitting wait in the hour. 675 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: This week we had an O nine f one fifty 676 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: So how old is that truck? Own nine? So that's 677 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: fifteen years old, right, And we had to put spark 678 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: plugs in its sixty eight thousand miles. They called for 679 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: the plugs at one hundred, but we were getting nervous 680 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: that they were going to be stuck in the head, 681 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: which they were. And that's the crux of this story, 682 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: because this is one of those infamous three valve motors 683 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: where they have two piece spark plugs, which you know, 684 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: the whole two piece spark plug thing is beyond my 685 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: comprehension about what they were thinking and why. But as 686 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there's a side story. I met 687 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: an engineer from Ford once and I asked him about 688 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: that and he said, yeah, I'm not sure he goes. 689 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: I never thought it was a great idea myself. So 690 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: he no longer works for Ford. So maybe that's an 691 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: indication of he was forward thinking and realized the follying. 692 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: They fired him. Who knows, But we were working on 693 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: the Z nine f one to fifty and we had 694 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: to put spark plugs in it. You think it's a 695 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: simple enough thing to do, and the three plugs, three 696 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: of the four on the driver's side were just stuck in. 697 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: We couldn't get him the budget and there's a special 698 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: tool out there there's a bunch of different ones. We 699 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: used the one from Lyle. It works really well and 700 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: it goes in and it will help grip and get 701 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: the plug to move. And if you've never seen this, 702 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: you can you can google search it as to why 703 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: and how this this is a problem in the way. 704 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't, you know, want to come out, and carbon 705 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: deposits on the porcelain build up and the plug can't 706 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: be removed and it's just a real it's ugly. So 707 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: the Lyle tool what it does is it'll go in 708 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: and it'll you know, you can turn the spark plug 709 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: a little bit, and then you have to wait, you 710 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: have to soak it. We shot some PB blaster down there. 711 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Naturally we use that and then we use there's some 712 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: fuel system cleaner that we'll use to help kind of 713 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: break up the carbon deposits on the tip. And we 714 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: work the plug back and forth and back and forth 715 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: and back and forth using a special tool. Of course, 716 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: the special tool broke and this was Friday. It's always 717 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: on a Friday, and we had to get another one, 718 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 2: and there's AutoZone running to the rescue, like the cavalry 719 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: bringing us another tool. Warranty the old one and though 720 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: we're able to get the car out the door. But 721 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, life and the repair shops not easy. A 722 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: lot of it depends on your tools, and a lot 723 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: of it depends on your part store just like AutoZone. 724 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: Find more at autozonepro dot com. I'm running any in 725 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: the car doctor. Thanks for sticking around till the next time. 726 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: Remember good mcare are inexpensive, They're priceless. See you h