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Speaker 1: everybody eight Grace. When I say Grace, not this time

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Speaker 1: and next time, but not this time. When I say Grace,

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Speaker 1: not this time, but next time, you fill in your

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Speaker 1: last name. Okay, we're joined by Grace, an audiologist and

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Speaker 1: the founder of auto pro. You would talk about, among

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Speaker 1: many other things, Um, is it auto or Otto It's

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Speaker 1: but I didn't want to interrupt you right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about souped up um, souped up hearing protection

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Speaker 1: and what happens to your ears when you a lifetime

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Speaker 1: a duck blind and then your body rips one across

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Speaker 1: it's like you're thinking, man, that probably did something, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, what did it do? Do you

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Speaker 1: want that? Now? I'm just teeing it up. I'll point

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Speaker 1: out to the graceers. Just tell him that she's no

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Speaker 1: stranger to microphones because he used to do what now?

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Speaker 1: I hosted the midday Motown and sixties classic show and

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Speaker 1: So I'd go around all my friend's parents had small

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Speaker 1: Grace is going to develop um. We we're just doing

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Speaker 1: But you could train some great kids with all this

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Speaker 1: the flooding. No, she asked a question and I answered, yes,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna point out, Um, this is my note here,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably find some of my stuff. I'll probably find

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Speaker 1: we might have caught a fish there? I remember? Anyway,

425
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: it wasn't good. So finally we're like, you know what,

426
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: let's just head up north to that muddy spot and

427
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: try that out. We could see on side imaging there

428
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: was a bunch of fish there. As soon as you

429
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: dropped the megalive, there was fish all over the place.

430
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: It was just yeah, you can see bait. Um. It

431
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: was just tough because you had to get that leech.

432
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: We're fishing, drop shot and leech and slip bobber and leech.

433
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: You just had to get that bait within two inches

434
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: of that walleyes face for the walleye to see the

435
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: bait and eat it. Um, which was tough, and the

436
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: only way you could do that basically was with using

437
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: megalive or live imaging. Um, because you can when you're

438
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: using live imaging, you can see the fish. You can

439
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: see your bait go down to the fish. And like

440
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: if I make a cast to a fish and don't

441
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: see my bait go right down and like literally inches

442
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: from that fish, I would reel in and cast again,

443
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: because there's no point in letting it sit out there,

444
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: and you're not spooking the ship out of it doing that.

445
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: In that mud, they're not that spooky. So um, we

446
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: decided to head up north to that muddy spot and

447
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: we just start fishing. We can see fish and seth

448
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: starts and I just kind of got it. Came on fire.

449
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: I just got it a little dialed where like, like

450
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 1: I just said, I would cast these fish and if

451
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: I didn't see my bait land right in front of him,

452
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: I would just reel and cast again. And I just

453
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of got this technique dialed in and yeah, I

454
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: just started hammering on fish UM and we we got

455
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: our five fish pretty early and then spent the rest

456
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: of the day calling UM. And I want to go

457
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: back to one thing with that in the mud, putting

458
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: that bait two inches from the fish's face, Like it

459
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: takes a tremendous amount of focus to be able to

460
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: do that all day long. And one of the things

461
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: that I think helped us is we got two guys

462
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: in the boat making those perfect casts, and if it's

463
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: not perfect, we're reeling in and we're staying on it

464
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: all day, cast after cast after cast. So being able

465
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: to have set doing that and myself doing that like

466
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to do. It was hard to do and

467
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: stay focused. But that's one of the things that helped us.

468
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: The way we're kind of doing it was like like

469
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: the first day I was on the megal ive, and

470
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: that that megalives mounted to a pole that's hanging over

471
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: the side of our boat, and it comes up to

472
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: like an arm that's at a ninety degree angle from

473
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: the pole, and like wherever that arm is pointed, that's

474
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: where the transducers pointing UM. So like I would it

475
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: was basically like flipping docks for bass fishing, just like

476
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: underhand cast um to these fish, and then Chester would

477
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: like basically mimic. He would like try to land his

478
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: bait right where I landed mine because he knew I

479
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: was casting to like a fish right there, and we

480
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: would communicate like, oh that was too far, Like if

481
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I saw the bait go over the fish, I'd be like,

482
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: oh too far really and try like try it again, um,

483
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: and you can't. If you too far, you can't just

484
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: drag it in front of his face. You can, And

485
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: we did that, but we found that you were more

486
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: successful if you just immediately landed that bait right on

487
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: the fish because those fish are moving a little yeah. Um.

488
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: So we did that the first day. And the nice

489
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: thing was there was not a single boat anywhere close

490
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: to us because I think those guys, like the guys

491
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: that don't have that live imaging, and they would have

492
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: never been able to fish those to those fish like

493
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: we were and catch them. They would have just been

494
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: like kind of blind casting two areas where they knew

495
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: they were fish, and you just had to get it

496
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: so close to him that if you didn't have that

497
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: live imaging and you couldn't really fish to him successfully.

498
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: Like JT. Van's aunt puts it, you gotta put a

499
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: mustache on him, you do. Yeah, I had to put

500
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: a mustache on the So um we were we were

501
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: at the end of day one. We went into Wayns

502
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: with ten point oh six pounds in our minds and

503
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: our minds were like, ship, we hit double digits. We're

504
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting real good for for day two. Go

505
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: to Wayns, find out that we're sitting in seventeenth place,

506
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: and we start seeing weights come in and it's like

507
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: some fourteen pounds, sixteen pounds. One guy caught twenty pounds

508
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: the first day. Yeah, so we're like ship, you know,

509
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: like we have some like we gotta make up some

510
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: some spots tomorrow. Um. But we're pretty excited because everyone

511
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: was saying that with Fresno being so packed with boats

512
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: on day one, those fish get pretty sore lipped, and

513
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: there it's a tougher bite the next day, and we're

514
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: thinking in our minds there wasn't a single boat around us.

515
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: There was all these fish around us that never even

516
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: saw a hook that day, So our fish up north

517
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: weren't going to be sore lipped. Like, Day two's time

518
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: for us to make up some ground and get get

519
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of these guys that are gonna

520
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: be fishing two more finicky fish. Um. So day two,

521
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: first boat were the first boat to go out, UM

522
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: seven o'clock hits. We haul ass up to our spot. Again,

523
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: not a single boat there. I think throughout the day

524
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: there was a couple dudes that would like troll past

525
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: us with planer boards, but other than that there was

526
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: no one. But you have the water was that you

527
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: were fishing up there in the mud anywhere from like

528
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: four to eight ft and the wind played. The wind

529
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: was huge because it would pick up, the wind would

530
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: pick up, the bite would pick up, the wind would

531
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: lay down, the bite would lay down, so like it

532
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: got pretty hot and heavy when the wind would and

533
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: then like the wind would lay down. It would be

534
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: like several hours where we would like maybe not catch fish.

535
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: And it was also a morning bite, so we knew

536
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: we had a better morning bite for bigger fish. We

537
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: knew we had to show go up and take full

538
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: advantage of that morning. So we show up on a

539
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: second day and have our five fish limit by eight

540
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: o'clock within it within an hour, and decent, decent fish too,

541
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: and we just start from there. We just start catching fish.

542
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Did you talk about being catch capture release, so that

543
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: this tournament is all these tournaments are catch, capture and release,

544
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: which means you catch the fish you laid on a

545
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: bump board, take a picture of it, and then release

546
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: that fish, so you're not hauling them back for the

547
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: big wigh in no ship. No. And when you turn

548
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: your card in your SD card, you have to have

549
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: only five fish on there, but throughout the day we

550
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: might catch thirty fish. So you have to like constantly

551
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: keep going through and deleting those fish, which is the

552
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: most stressful thing I've ever done in my life, because

553
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: if you buy, actually delete one of your big fish,

554
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: you're screwed. It's like you slipped out of your hand.

555
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: You've got to be making a copy or something. No,

556
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: it's just snap a picture and they don't accept it

557
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: like that. Do they give you the camera, No, we

558
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: we it's our camera. They issue you an SD card

559
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: though no r S D card too. Well they I'm

560
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: assuming they've got all kinds of way to give you.

561
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: They give you a bumpboard and you don't know what

562
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: number you're gonna get the bump board has a number

563
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: on it. Let's say it's number ten, so it's next

564
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: day you might get number fifteen. Bard yea um, but yeah,

565
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: we start calling. At one point I throw out a

566
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: slip bob rig and the slip bob we just had

567
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: to slip bobbers out there just because fish would just

568
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: happen to run into them. You know. We weren't like

569
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: specifically cast these slip bobbers to like certain fish. It

570
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: was just like a bonus that thing, and we were

571
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: catching a few fish on them. Real quick explanation of

572
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: a slip bobber rig. A slip bobber rig is, so

573
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I'll start from the hook. You have a hook that

574
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: goes up to a swivel right above that swivel as

575
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: a weight too to drop the line down fast. And

576
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: we're using bear hooks. We we found out that we're

577
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: running the slip bobberie with a little light jig jake

578
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: head and a in a leech. We found out that

579
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: those fish would not eat it unless it was a

580
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: bear hook. Um. They like when that leach free floats man,

581
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: And those leeches were real lively, like look like little

582
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: snakes in the water. So hook go. There's like a

583
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: depends on what you want to run. I'll say a

584
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: twelve inch leader up to a swivel above the swivel's weight,

585
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: and then above that weight is a bomber that your

586
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: line runs through, like your line runs from the top

587
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the bobber, and that bobber can

588
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: slide on your lines. An inline bobber, Yeah, an inline

589
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: bober that can slide freely on your line. Above the

590
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: bomber is a little bead, and then above that is

591
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: a bomber. Stop. This is not a nylon not, it's

592
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: a nilon and you can just the depth of that

593
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: and that that not will reel up into your reel. Yep,

594
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: you can really can have a boer at twenty ft.

595
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: But that means that that doesn't leave you trying to

596
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: cast hanging off the endia exactly. Um, real fun way

597
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: to fish. It's only found out about slip bobbers at

598
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: like the ripe age of like forty one or something

599
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: in boy game changer doesn't play into the fly fish

600
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: and seen slip bober that sounds like a South Dakota bite.

601
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's textbook like glacial lakes four to eight

602
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: foot of water, slip bober and leeches that brings back

603
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: some um. But yeah, at one point in time, I

604
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: throw out a slip bobber and I set that down

605
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: on the on the edge of the boat, and I

606
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: pick up, uh my dropshot Reagan. I'm putting a leach

607
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: on it, and I start to hear the rods sliding

608
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: against the gun of the boat, and I look over

609
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: to see that rod just going over the boat into

610
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: the water and it's gone like to the bottom fish

611
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: pull it in. And you didn't have the drag set

612
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: light enough that it could just pull it. No, I

613
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: didn't have like this. I didn't have the bail open

614
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: or anything where. It's just it's just that we're like

615
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: rarely catching fish on slip bobber's, so I just like,

616
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, through it out there, and every once a

617
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: while we look over just to make sure the bobber

618
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: wasn't down or whatever. Um. So I'm like trying to

619
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: like take the rod that I have in my hand

620
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: and like hook it, just you know, try to doing

621
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: whatever I can to like try to get this rod

622
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: before it hits the bottom. And I didn't see it happened.

623
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what the heck is going on? I

624
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: didn't see it happened. Everyone didn't see it happened. So

625
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: they're like, what in the hell is this guy doing,

626
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: like sticking his odd down in the water trying to Yeah,

627
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: So I tell them what happened, and we're like going

628
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: over the whole scenario. And I look over in that

629
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: away fifteen yards away, that slip bober pops up to

630
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: the surface and it's moving. So we like get get

631
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: rods reeled in. It's a ship show and all of

632
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: this is on camera for you guys to watch. Yeah,

633
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: we gotta what do you what are you guys gonna

634
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: call your Walleye show Musky and the mustache. Somebody thought,

635
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: well that's good. Yeah, anyway, we can start thinking on that.

636
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: We think about that. Um, we get rods reeled in,

637
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: we get on the trolling motor and start hustling over

638
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: to that where the bober is, and then by the

639
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: time we get over there, that goes back down. So

640
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm like marking way points on the last on a

641
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: on the humming Bird where like the last spot we

642
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: saw the bober go down again and all over with

643
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: my eyes just looking. Shortly after, it pops back up

644
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: like another fifteen yards away, and I take the rods

645
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: I of my hand. I'm like casting over, trying to

646
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: like snag the line and whatnot. We're trying to get

647
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: over to it. Sure enough, we get close to it,

648
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: it goes back down again. Finally it pops up um

649
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: and we get over to it, and Chet's able to

650
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: get the bomber with the net, and I reached down

651
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: grab a hold of the bobber and I could feel

652
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: a fish on the end of the line, and I

653
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: start hand lining in this fish and ends up being

654
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: uh twenty and a half inch walleye, which is our

655
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: big tournament rules by hand lining it. No, I mean

656
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: we caught the fish, yeah, with the rod and reel.

657
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: It just wasn't was that the biggest fish of the

658
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: tournament at the at that point in time, it was

659
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: our biggest fish. So Chett, that's it. We get it in.

660
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: I pulled the rest of the rod up off the bottom,

661
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: and he had been dragging that rod around on the bottom,

662
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: so it's just like cake full of mud and stuff.

663
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Were you there when I U harpoon that hal But

664
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: and it's still my harpoon booy oh yeah, never to

665
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 1: be seen any Yeah. Um, so we get that fish

666
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: and it was crazy, like the way we had cameras

667
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: set up on the boat. Um, like that rod slipped

668
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: right past a go pro that was rolling, so it's

669
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: gonna be like the best footage. Yeah, it was crazy. Um,

670
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: do you mind if I tell Yeah, so I'll tee

671
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: it up just a little bit. We um that that

672
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: bite slows down because of the wind dies, it gets

673
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty flat. Calm, I say, chat, let's run across the

674
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: reservoir here and still in the mud. Let's run across

675
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: where we had fished a little bit the day before

676
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: and caught some fish. I was like, let's just go

677
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: over there and try it, because right like at that point,

678
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: we weren't catching fish where we were. So so we

679
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: roll over there and this spot is a little different.

680
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: There's a few more weeds, they're still bait moving around,

681
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: we're still seeing fish. So it's perfect, actually more so

682
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: than the day before. We start fishing, and we immediately

683
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: start calling some more fish, meaning replacing smaller ones on

684
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: our card with bigger ones, and we're happy. We're probably

685
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: sitting a little over eleven pounds and it was our

686
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: goal to just be consistent in keeping those double digits.

687
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: And we knew we probably weren't gonna place top ten,

688
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: but we would probably upgrade from seventeen. We're happy with

689
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: how we executed it at this point, so we keep

690
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: fishing and Seth, I just want to say something. Seth

691
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: was on it. He was catching fish to the point

692
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: where sometimes I'm like, I don't quite have it figured

693
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: out like Seth does, so I'm just letting him do

694
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: his thing. This is a team you know, it doesn't

695
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: matter who's catching the field. You're not being like, hey, Seth,

696
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: can you make me a sandwich? Right? Can you help me?

697
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: This is like a very much a team effort. And

698
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: it was actually really cool. Um. And I was catching fish,

699
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: but he had it dialed. Um, So you know, I'm happy.

700
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: I also want to contribute to like this as well. Right, Um,

701
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: So we roll over there, we start calling those fish,

702
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: and we had to be back by three pm. You

703
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: want to stay his partner for next year too, right,

704
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: because like, we have five tournaments like this in a

705
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: row next year, so it's gonna be like well, and

706
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: then thought about that Seth might Seth might he might

707
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: become friends and find like a new partner. No. I

708
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: caught some big ones on Fort Pack too. It'll be

709
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: like a TV show when they replaced one of the

710
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: actors in between seasons. It's like where's Chester this season? No,

711
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean communication is very key and like trying not

712
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: to it's just like goes a long way in the boat.

713
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: So anyways, Seth the two days, he's loading the basis

714
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: in a baseball analogy, Seth is just loading the basis.

715
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: Could give me a different kind of analogy. Uh, this

716
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: this will work. That's because it's good because we got

717
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: to talk about Yeah, we got par Pete. Yeah Pete.

718
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: He bats in the middle of the lineup when the

719
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: job the guys ahead of him at the top of

720
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: the inning is just to get on the basis. So

721
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: within Petche shows up, he drives them all in called

722
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: bat and clean up. Seth is hitting singles. Yeah, because

723
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: we got talked about baseball in a minute. So Seth

724
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: loaded the bases and it was the bottom of the

725
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: ninth inning. So the last inning of the game, we

726
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: had to be in at three and we were happy

727
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: with our weight and we said our last cast is

728
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: going to be at two thirty five pm, and Seth

729
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: was jokingly saying the camera, we are gonna just quick, okay,

730
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: catch a bigger fish here to call out our seventeen incher.

731
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: And this is at two thirty five pm, and then

732
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna head right in and race to the weigh ends.

733
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: And I see a fish in the weeds on Mega Live,

734
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: and I flip it out there, and not seconds after

735
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: Seth said that, wham rod goes down and it happened

736
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: to be the biggest fish that anyone caught out of

737
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: any boat the whole tournament. And three quarter inches which

738
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: is a big one, upgraded as five pounds and no ship. Yeah,

739
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: put us up to like six over sixteen pounds for

740
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: the day. Gave us another eight hundred and seventy five

741
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: dollars towards our little fund going towards something. What did

742
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: you finish do you? Because I know that goes by

743
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: how you finished for the tournament, Like you finished seven

744
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: for the tournament, which is fantastic, But what did you

745
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: finished for the day or fifth? Fifth for the day.

746
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: We ended up with sixty some pounds, And I kid

747
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: you not, I was. I haven't been more excited about

748
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: a fish. I was like, so, like, this is all

749
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: on camera, Chris gill is filming this and he's trying

750
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: to hold back his excitement behind the camera. He's his

751
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: ridge pounder likes fishing. Yeah, he said it was one

752
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: of the most fun things he's ever filmed. And those

753
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: tournament walleyes hit different to man. They's like tournament day

754
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: to day boys, you know how I like to do

755
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: it on tournament days when you're just having fun, when

756
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: you're just having fun fishing and catch a twenty inch

757
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: while I like, that's a real nice walle I like,

758
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I love that wallet. You catch even a twenty inch

759
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: when you're fishing a tournament and you are just shaking

760
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: in your boots. I would I would see a fish

761
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: on Megalalive and I would make a cast to it

762
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: and my hand would be shaking because I was like waiting,

763
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: like the anticipation. Yeah, you get exa austin from it

764
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: to all day because just amped the whole time. What

765
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: is a six inch wally weigh that was like six

766
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: point something pounds? Um? You know the six might be

767
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: closer to seven um. Time of years, A big deal

768
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: on that, yeah, exactly. But they have on these bumpboards.

769
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: They have a scale that is like relatively close after

770
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: they spawn sot inch to fourteen inch fish is going

771
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: to be around point eight pounds to a pound, right, Um,

772
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: so that's how they measure these weights during these tournaments.

773
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: But anyways, I was unbelievably happy. It was. It was incredible.

774
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you guys. Man, you guys are making everybody.

775
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: You guys are making everybody proud. Yeah, you guys got

776
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: seventeen right in the first tournament and now seven does

777
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: everybody the competition has got to know, uh that there's

778
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: an up and coming team. Yeah. People are people meaning

779
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: you guys, because you guys are like newcomers and you

780
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: and your filming and everything. No, everyone's great, and um,

781
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: that tournament was run really smooth. Um, it is a lot.

782
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: So I appreciate people letting us do this. It's a lot.

783
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a chase boat, we got cameras around.

784
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: Some people probably don't love it, you know, but I

785
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: appreciate the Montana Walleye Circuit letting us do this because

786
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be something really cool at the

787
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: end of it. When we get this four part series out,

788
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I'll say this about that though, man, is if walleye

789
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: fishing has ever had like a negative about it from

790
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: the tournament standpoint is it's never had the cool videos

791
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: and publicity that the bass side has had. And while

792
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: ie guys like the old PNW series and all those that,

793
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: even the and W T, it's like that's the thing

794
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: they've always missed, is the actual ability to watch and outs.

795
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: You know, as a walleye guy myself, I like that

796
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: well going into it. One of the primary concerns these

797
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: two had is it they would get caught cheating, but

798
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: they've been able to keep it under wrapped in the

799
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: bear right. One real quick question. How many of those

800
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: fifty six boats had all the technology that you guys

801
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: have in the boat? Um it's hard to say any

802
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: Probably a quarter of them had it all. Maybe more, Yeah,

803
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean being conservative for sure, probably fifty. Um the

804
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: guys that wanted had they were running live imaging and

805
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: they found a cool spot that had weeds and bait

806
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: and the fish were in the weeds. And did they

807
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: have longer hair than you did? Stuff? No? No, Um,

808
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: they did not. Uh Sean you jacked up? Yeah, Well

809
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: I used to fish while I tournament. I'm talking about

810
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: being jacked up for Shawn's duck report. Oh yeah, I'm

811
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: pumped about that. He's jacked for both remove ahead of Shawn's. Okay,

812
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: I want I want to I want to go back

813
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: again and say, you guys doing a great job. Man.

814
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: When you came on, Like when you came on and

815
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: said you wanted to land top twenty, I didn't have

816
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: a reason to think you wouldn't. But uh, I was like, oh,

817
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: it seems like a reasonable thing. But um, that you're

818
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: executing on it hard work. I mean like, yeah, it's

819
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: just like two guys really trying to break it down

820
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: and understand why why are these fish doing this? How

821
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: do we catch you? And going I'll say, I'll say

822
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: quickly growing into Fresno. We had never fished it before,

823
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: I had never even laid eyes on it. So we

824
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: had completely spent two days breaking it down, figuring it out.

825
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: And yeah, trust your electronics. That's all I can say,

826
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: because that's what that's what helped us. Mhm, it's great. Man,

827
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: got one more to go. Can't do the four? I

828
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: just point out, can't do the fourth because that's getting

829
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: married and won't Uh won't not go. Spencer new Hearth

830
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: was putting a bug in my ear. He's like, can

831
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: mean you go out? Okay? You guys fishing? You could?

832
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: I could, but I don't know if that's you want

833
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: to go to his wedding. Yeah, I gotta go to

834
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: the guy's wedding after putting on a performance like that

835
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: at Fresno. Heck, that's luck man. I can't wait to

836
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: get on that sweet boat now that all the rivers

837
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be so messy for a while, and I

838
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: have to go fishing with you guys on the on

839
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: the boat. I cannot wait. All you guys, Let's go fishing,

840
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: all right. Sean's Dark Report? Phil, do you ever make

841
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: like an intro for Sean Dark Report? Got anything else

842
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: to shay? I shant Have you been dating much? I've

843
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: been on the rut app. On the app he takes

844
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: pto to go on dates like the high stakes dates.

845
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: That was the first time I've ever taken PTO in

846
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: my life for a date. I don't understand. I don't either. Please.

847
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: My first date with my wife is three days long

848
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: because we were living and I was living in Alaska,

849
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: she was New York. We met and went to Librea

850
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: tar pits. So why don't you understand that was unusual?

851
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: Why do you think a fellow would have was PTO

852
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: to go on a date. Why would he have to

853
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: take pt Well, I mean it is personal time, right,

854
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: that's a good point by definition that think it's a

855
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: personal time unless But but in in your line of work,

856
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, the just take can you like take her

857
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: duck hunting and then call it it was fishing? Well,

858
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean I would think maybe that he could tie

859
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that into his work here. You know, we offer unlimited

860
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: PTO here. No, but that's awesome. Well it's kind of

861
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: a lie because like you can go away, but then

862
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: you come back, you still have a bunch of ship

863
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: to do. It's not like someone else. Does it mean, Yeah,

864
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: someone's on his date. I'm gonna do with the stuff

865
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do it, and you'll come back and

866
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: be able to chill. So you just come back heling,

867
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Now it's screwed. Yeah, re entry is always hard. An

868
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: there you are. But I don't want to get too deep.

869
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: But I am curious, are you you're using a dating

870
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: app or not using now? Not at all? Just meet

871
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: him the old fashioned way wow, which I would would

872
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: be a bar Instagram social garretts this is not fair. Well,

873
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: just give me, okay qualities you're looking for. I'll find

874
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: you a good MISSR girl. I think no, I think

875
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm gonna plead the fifth on this one.

876
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: This is not how I expected this to. Gon't expect

877
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: this grace. You're married and got kids? How many kids? Three?

878
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: I got three girls? Been married twelve years? How did

879
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: you meet your husband? Blind date? It's actually a really

880
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: funny story. I don't I don't know if your listenership

881
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: will be interested in how I met my husband. But

882
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: it was blind date and a lot of friends joke.

883
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: That was an arranged marriage because our mothers set us

884
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: up on a blind date. Yeah, it's pretty old school. Yeah,

885
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: blind date's not something you hear about too often now.

886
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: And we had both had some really bad blind dates

887
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: leading up to our blind date, which you know, so

888
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: we didn't have high expectations. You were blind date her.

889
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: I was a blind date, and it was it's actually

890
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: i'll tell you it is. I'll give you the short version.

891
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: So this was while I was it was a unique

892
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: chapter of my life. Um, I can't believe I'm about

893
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: to say this on your podcast. But I was Miss

894
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee in the Miss American passiant and so I took

895
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: a year off of graduate. You went all the way

896
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: to Miss Tennessee to Miss America. If you want to

897
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: take it to the highest level I went. You wouldn't

898
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: competed in Miss America. I sure did. Do you want

899
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: my autograph? Yeah, you're Miss America. Thing I was, What

900
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: was your deal? What was your sort of like you

901
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: like your specialty? I sang, which is how I met

902
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: my husband. I was singing the national anthem at a

903
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies NBA game, and our mom set us up.

904
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: They had talked and they knew that I was going

905
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: to be there singing, and neither one of us, obviously

906
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: were dating anyone. And in Mississippi, if you're not married

907
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: by the time you're like twenty five, people get concerned,

908
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: especially if you're Miss Mississippi Tennessee. I was in school

909
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: at Andy, So Miss Tennessee, right here in the studio. Yeah,

910
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: as you live and breathe so so. So I was

911
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: singing the anthem, and so I was not at all

912
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: concerned about whoever this dude was I was about to

913
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: sit with and watch the basketball game, and I had

914
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: never sung in an arena that big before, so I

915
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: had at the time, this is how long ago it was.

916
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: I had my little iPod shuffle threaded underneath my dress,

917
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: tucked in my tights so that at center court, when

918
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded all these seven foot tall basketball players and

919
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: the lights go down, spotlight on me. I was terrified

920
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: that I was going to accidentally change keys in the

921
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: middle of this acapella song, which it sounds bad when

922
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: you do that, by the way. So I was going

923
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: to hear the accompaniment music in my ear that no

924
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: one else could hear, but it would keep me into

925
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: you see what I mean. But when I pressed that

926
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: play button, it just so happens that Norah Jones is

927
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: right after National Anthem on my iPod at this time,

928
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: so I did not hear my accompaniment track. I heard

929
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: come Away with Me, and I was like, oh, WHOA.

930
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: So I jerked it out of my air and just

931
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: pick a note saying it it was pre iPhone day,

932
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: so there's no proof otherwise. So I will say it

933
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: was the best it's ever been sung. For my story,

934
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sticking to it the same night that you

935
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: met your yes, and he almost missed it. He came

936
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: rushing it. He thought he knew I was singing the anthem,

937
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: but he thought it was going to be as part

938
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: of some big like miss and group ensemble that was

939
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: then going to go work the concession stand. He really

940
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: did not know that it was just going to be

941
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: me singing, and so he like rushes in and he's like, damn,

942
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: that's my date. And so then I finished singing, and

943
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: of course I'm a little rattled from the whole like

944
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: debacle that was my accompaniment track. And he but I

945
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: looked down at my then BlackBerry because that's the time

946
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: we were in and it's like, I'm the guy in

947
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: the blue sweater and I'm going I'm in the FedEx form,

948
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: Like all right, you're gonna have to give me a

949
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: little bit more than that. But but anyway, we sat together,

950
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: watched the game. He went he was living in Jack's, Mississippi.

951
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: He had he had lived in Boston for school and

952
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: then came back to Jackson. I was in Nashville. So

953
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: we dated a long distance and now we're married with

954
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: free kids. Was he like Mr Universe or anything like that, like,

955
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: did he have anything? No, No, I mean he's a

956
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: really great guy everything. I'm so sorry, honey. Um no,

957
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: he sleep. He just wanted he just wont you over

958
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: the good old fashion. No. He impressed me so much

959
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: because he's so humble and he's really a pretty awesome

960
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: person with a lot that he could brag about, and

961
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: he didn't. And so we sat and had this great conversation.

962
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: There was a lot that I learned about him after

963
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't come right out with like

964
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: trying to impress me. He was just trying to impress you.

965
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: I guess held off. He held off, but then he

966
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: you know what, it's funny, tied into the hole Miss

967
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: American thing. So we met in November Miss America the

968
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: finale there was in reality show that year, but the

969
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: finale was in January, and he showed up in Las

970
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: Vegas and like hung out with my family. We've been

971
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: on three days at this point. That's when it was like, Okay,

972
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: he's into me. I think, yeah, it's pretty cool. Is

973
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: this the first time for you to have a washed

974
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: up former pageant queen in your studio? Yeah, listen, there's

975
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: a statute of limitations on these things. I really can't

976
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: use that anymore. But yeah, that's the back story. Uh

977
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: so Beck Shawn's day. That's good. So we're gonna okay,

978
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, you're being like a little tight lip. You're

979
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: being like a tournament wallee. I mean, but it's like

980
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: it's new enough that I don't want to jinx it.

981
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm with you. That's that's probably the walleye Fisher.

982
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: What I was leading towards. What I was leading towards is, um,

983
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: what do you call it? When you got one guy batting,

984
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: there's another guy over practicing. I was trying to get

985
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: a couple more people on deck for you, right, Yeah,

986
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: it didn't probably work very well though. Huh well, maybe

987
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you'd have had to play it harder

988
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: school with the Duck report, Shawn dr port so um

989
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: trying to remember how long ago that was that we

990
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: talked about the age demographics of ducks. It was a

991
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of duck reports ago. But when

992
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: we had talked about like how long ducks live you

993
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: had said, you know, we had talked about that they

994
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: you have some that get to be high twenties, you know,

995
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: mallard that lives to be seven years old, blue goose

996
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: that lives to be thirty years old, and you had

997
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: requested an odometer. How how far they travel in their life? Well,

998
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: there's so there's a few different conservation worcs all doing

999
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: this now, ducks and limited delta, and then in Arkansas

1000
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: you have the Osbourne Lab and five Oaks Egg Research

1001
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Center doing GPS trackers on ducks and man, it's crazy

1002
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: how good that tech has come along compared to like

1003
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: the radio telemetry stuff, because they know every single I

1004
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: mean down to the cornfield. These ducks are hanging out

1005
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: in all the way up and down the flyway. But anyway,

1006
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: so I had a guy named Ryan Askern from the

1007
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: Osbourne Lab give me some data points. Day've got forty

1008
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: five ucks with GPS trackers right now, and uh, that's

1009
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: that's they're glue in that in the feathers corrects on

1010
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: their back the backpack. Oh it is okay. Remember some

1011
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Turkey guys talking about a little thing. Maybe they weren't

1012
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't as sophisticated, but um, they would just

1013
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: glue this little device up in their feathers. You wouldn't

1014
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: even see it no, you can see this. Yeah, yeah,

1015
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: you can see it. It looks like they're flying around

1016
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: with a backpack on. Um. So, anyway, he sent me

1017
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: data points for the averages of all the forty five ducks.

1018
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: But then he also sent me just like a random

1019
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: drake and Hen Mallard got it. And the drake Mallard

1020
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: on Avid on average flies eight point seven miles a

1021
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: day for a total of three thousand, one hundred and

1022
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: seventy two miles a year, and the hand flies eleven

1023
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: point six miles a day for a total of four thousand,

1024
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four miles a year, which you know,

1025
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy when you think about that. Most

1026
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: of that's in the spring and fall, because they're pretty

1027
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: That does include migration, yep, because they're pretty idle. Because

1028
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: the annual average yep. Are you gonna hit us with

1029
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: some extraordinary days yep. So that's why Sean does such

1030
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: a good duck report. Um well, and I did. I

1031
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: did do a total of like based on the average

1032
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: of all their forty five ducks that they have, they

1033
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: fly on average of eleven point two miles a day.

1034
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: And if you remember, the oldest Mallard ever shot with

1035
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: a band on it was twenty seven or seven months.

1036
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Applying the average to that duck, he would have flown

1037
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve thousand, seven hundred fifty miles in

1038
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: his life, which it's pretty good for for a duck.

1039
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: But okay, anyway, the and then what's really wild is

1040
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: the like the spring and fall migration of how far

1041
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: these ducks will go in one day. This spring in April,

1042
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: they had one mallard that flew six d forty two

1043
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: miles in a single day from Bismarck, North Dakota to Lloydminster, Alberta.

1044
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: No way in one day. How many times did he stop?

1045
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: See it only kicks the information back every twenty four hours,

1046
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: so they don't know exactly. Yeah, but you'd have to

1047
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: think of he's covering that distance. He couldn't have been

1048
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: doing wash except flying, and he's going north. I wonder

1049
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: if he had a tail wind. That's what's crazy too,

1050
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: is like you see these ducks migrate into the wind.

1051
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes two snow geese will do it all the time,

1052
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: where they migrate into the wind, and you're like why

1053
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, so they'll they'll like wait for a north

1054
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: wind and make a big push or something, or it

1055
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: just happens to be just kind of like I've seen

1056
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: the heart some of the hardest snow goose mic ration

1057
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: days going north into a north wind, which doesn't make sense.

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: And then other times, you know, they have a great

1059
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: south wind and they're using it. But they'll migrate more

1060
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: based on and this is a different duct report will

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: do sometime about how much of the migration happens based

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01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: on moon and like like why you always here snowgies

1063
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: flying in the middle of the night yep, yep, because

1064
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: they're doing some work and research on like luminants too,

1065
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: And how much duct movement is happening based on moonlight?

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I think I think as much of it's based around that,

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01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: even more than wind. Is like that it's warm out

1068
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: that you know they've got the right moon stuff like that.

1069
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: But that's incredible six he did one day, and that's

1070
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're out and ducts are kind

1071
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: of giving you the snub, and also just some duct

1072
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: comes and just like boom bombs are dude, that's him, yeah, yeah,

1073
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: he just got done with a trap, you know, and

1074
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, next duck, I see, I'm landing. Yeah,

1075
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready for some food, some chill. But the you know,

1076
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: the ones that are real crazy is the snow goose migration.

1077
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the duck migration is impressive, don't get me wrong,

1078
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: but it doesn't hold a candle to what the snow

1079
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: geese are doing. So there's a group called the Alberta

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: Conservation Association doing GPS work on snow geese and they

1081
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: have one tracker that for whatever reason, has lasted longer

1082
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 1: than it was supposed to. Its lasted three years now,

1083
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: so they've been getting info on this one snow goose

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01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: for three years and over from January to January. This

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: snow goose has average twenty one five miles per day

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01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: of flying, which like, okay, so it's double a Mallard's average.

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01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: And it makes sense when you see how snow geese

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: fly around and feed. They fly along ways every day

1089
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: to feed. But then on top of that, this snow

1090
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: goose flew seventy miles in twenty four hours and landed

1091
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: on like this little mountain creek up in the Yukon. Yeah,

1092
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: and so this so this goose, this exact snow goose

1093
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: is wintering in California. Then flying over to Boise and

1094
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: hanging out down in the Snake River bottoms, then flying

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: to freeze Out Lake, Montana, then over to Edmonton, Alberta,

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01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: and then ending on the north slope of Alaska. I

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: missed my first snow goose that freeze all like really

1098
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: like the biggest chip shot. You could have just decoyed

1099
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: or passing over, you know, like eight ft over my

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: head about a mile an hour, just too close, just whatever.

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um So, just for the sake of

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: doing it, I applied that twenty mile a day average

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: to the oldest blue goose ever, which you know, same

1104
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: thing as a snow goose, and that goose would have

1105
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: flown two thousand, five thirty nine miles in its life,

1106
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: which there's pickups dying well before that. You're not gonna

1107
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: get that much out of your Toyota tundra. I mean,

1108
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: that's impressives. Do you have have many numbers on the low end,

1109
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: like when they're just loafing golf course duck? No, I

1110
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: don't have anything like that, but I was I was

1111
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: thinking about that these these ducks are putting the GPS

1112
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: units on in Arkansas. Um you know, they those ducks

1113
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: in Arkansas are always kind of within easy he feeding

1114
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: distance of like where where they roost and where they

1115
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: feed is always pretty close, maybe a mile two miles

1116
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: at most. But then you get some of these Montana, Wyoming,

1117
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: Nebraska Kansas ducks that they have to fly a long

1118
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: way to get to a cornfield in western Nebraska. One

1119
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: time I followed flock ducks forty five miles to their

1120
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: feed and they were flying that every day, And so yeah,

1121
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: he's jamming ninety miles a day. I would think that

1122
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: this average of Arkansas ducks is actually, you know, maybe

1123
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: compared to some of the Central Flyway ducks and Rocky

1124
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Mountain ducks maybe on the low side. Hit me again

1125
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: with how far that snow goose went one day, Um,

1126
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy miles in one day. He's blown

1127
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 1: by whole entire states. Yeah, but you're flying north to south,

1128
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: you're passing states, had a bunch of them. He started in.

1129
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: He started in Alberta and ended like well into the

1130
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 1: yukon that day and on where he was in. It's

1131
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: it's really what's really cool to look at on this

1132
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: GPS And I'll I can post the website for this too.

1133
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: You can look at the GPS and see that this

1134
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: bird sat around Edmonton, Alberta for a solid month just

1135
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: feeding and getting ready to cross the forest. Because that's why,

1136
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a there's no food for him as

1137
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: across the burial. You know, that's the largest This would

1138
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: be a good question for Spencer's trivial pursuit show. Um,

1139
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: the boreal forest is the largest biome on Earth. Really,

1140
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: it's the largest expanse of habitat type on the planet,

1141
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: is the boreal forest. Because like all that ship across

1142
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: the Yeah, like huge band across your age, a huge

1143
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: band across North America. That is a game poor environment, Yeah,

1144
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: and food poor. Why a snow goose would eat wheat

1145
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: for a month and a half before he flies across

1146
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: it in two days. That was a hell of a

1147
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: duck report. It's a fun one. Do Are you done? Yeah?

1148
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm done? So I think that just just strow shan

1149
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 1: a couple of ideas. I think that about them moving

1150
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: at night would be very interesting. What do you guys

1151
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: anything grace? What is this thing you wonder most about ducks?

1152
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: Don't you have anything burning? I don't. I don't wonder

1153
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: a lot about ducks. To be quite honest, I'm I'm

1154
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, I stay, I'm I'm an ears girl. You know,

1155
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: when you come back with that Turkey tester, maybe by

1156
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: then you'll have worked up a question for Sean, A

1157
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: question for Sean. Yeah, Uh, I got I got a

1158
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: couple of requests. Um. I think there's an emerging understanding

1159
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: about the role of iridescence and birds what they see

1160
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 1: when they see iridescence. Right, that could be interesting. Yep, Um,

1161
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: that's a good one. What else have you done, like

1162
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: mortality stuff? Like it's far like during the migration. I

1163
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: should say to narrow it down like hitting, because there

1164
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: is there like, uh spot on the map where it's like,

1165
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: holy shit, a bunch of ducks died, right triangle for dogs?

1166
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: That'd be interesting. How long did that that that goose

1167
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: live after the super long day? You know? Then? Does

1168
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: it just post up for a while? Is that the

1169
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: is that the last two raw? They do? Know? They?

1170
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean they they do their migration real fast and

1171
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: they take advantage of it, and then they spend a

1172
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: lot of time resting and putting the fat stores back on.

1173
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: I gotta get another one for you too, uh, predator

1174
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: swamping you know what I'm talking about. There's like a

1175
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: reproductive strategy where a vulnerable bird or any kind of

1176
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: thing vulnerable species will synchronize birthing um so that rather

1177
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: than staggering it out where predators can just like whittle away,

1178
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: whittle away with a away with it away. It just

1179
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: all happens at once, right, and then you kind of

1180
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: overwhelmed the predator base. And there's examples of with with

1181
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: I know with snow geese the way they nest that

1182
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: the fox the Arctic foxes and whatnot will always whittle

1183
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: away at the edge, but it's just too much. Hits

1184
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: the ground all at once and they can't They'll never

1185
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: get them all. But if you'd spread that same thing

1186
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: out over months, right, letters will just be like keyed

1187
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: in on it, constantly, constantly doing it. That could be interesting.

1188
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: And then another thing that could be interesting is like

1189
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: why what factors led to the great explosion in snow

1190
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: geese um, Like what were the agricultural practices that change

1191
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: that led to the snow goose explosion and why did

1192
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: that become a thing of such concern to wildlife managers

1193
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: in the Arctic. I've actually been in touch with the

1194
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: guy that was waving the flag. I did. I called

1195
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: him for an article I wrote on the website about

1196
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: snow geese that, um, he was the guy waving the

1197
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: flag saying, hey, snow goose populations are about to explode.

1198
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of environmental differences, get ready. And he

1199
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,839
Speaker 1: said that twenty five years before the Conservation Order actually

1200
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: got created. Yeah, that's a good one, talking snow Keep busy.

1201
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: Let's know how the dating goes. Okay, alright, Joyce seeing

1202
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: the national anthem? We should that. I didn't. I didn't

1203
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: warm up. I'm a little rusty. I'm out of practice.

1204
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Pete really quick before we

1205
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: get Yeah, for Pete's sake, Pete. Okay, So our our

1206
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: friend Peter Alonso speaking of baseball, our friend Peter Alonzo, Um,

1207
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, Chester. He he hits dingers. He's a hey,

1208
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: heck of a baseball polar bear. Pete plays for the Mats. Yeah,

1209
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: he's he's the official baseball player of this podcast. Yeah

1210
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: he Do you know what position he plays for the Mets? Yeah,

1211
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: plays first base. Nice first, I'm a loyal friend man

1212
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: first base. Read I'll read it when I see an

1213
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: article pop up about Pete. I'll read it and I'll

1214
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: send it to him as though he didn't know about it.

1215
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: My grandmother, you had a good game last night. My

1216
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: grandmother sends me articles cut out in the newspaper about

1217
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: Pete just because we did We did that. That's fun

1218
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: episode together. He uh, he's well known for a couple

1219
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: of home run derby wins. He can million bucks of pop.

1220
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: That guy can hit the ball when he gets it

1221
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: where he wants it, he hits the ball. He tells

1222
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: me that to be a good hitter, you have to

1223
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: have a high ass. And if you look at him,

1224
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: he has a high ass, which means a strong buttocks.

1225
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: His ass is positioned high on his body and it's

1226
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: big lot of in there. But I really like about

1227
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 1: watching him in the home room dirty I've mentioned this before,

1228
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: is like the zen space that you can see that

1229
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 1: he's in, just just chilling and smiling and just swinging

1230
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: away as calm as can be. Everybody else looks like

1231
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: they're just gonna smash the bat in their hands. They're

1232
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: holding it so tight and they've got be to sweat

1233
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: coming down their face and they're just and Pete's just

1234
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: that's a lot like, yeah, he's way off bugle and

1235
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: he loves the hunting fish. Maybe that has something to

1236
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: do with it. Maybe. Okay, so what what is? What

1237
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: is the Pete hasn't asked of everybody? Is it just

1238
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: about the All Star voting? Yes? Okay, yeah, voting is

1239
01:13:53,280 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: open for the All Star Game. Hey guy, what's up?

1240
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: Pete Alonso here? I just want to say thank you

1241
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: so much for all the love that you guys have

1242
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: been giving us, especially in the All Star voting. And

1243
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: as a thank you, you're truly I'm going to be

1244
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,959
Speaker 1: giving away Jersey's helmets, hats, tickets, and some VP passes.

1245
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: Take a picture of your vote and time stamp that somehow.

1246
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: Make sure to just click the link in my bio.

1247
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: It'll take you right to the site. L f GM.

1248
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: What's the LGM mean? Phil? Uh? What? Met know what

1249
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: it is? Yeah? It's naughty mets are Yeah, so do

1250
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: that because Pete's great. Steve baby Corn coming your way?

1251
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: Did your baby Corn? I did? It's it's like a

1252
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: cousin of the pickled okra. Yeah. These come in the

1253
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: in the meat Eater Bloody Mary kit that meets selling

1254
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: on the website. Now, I didn't know I never got

1255
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: I never got one either. I got all the parts

1256
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: that has never got a package. You'll have to go

1257
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: to the meat eater store dot com and get away.

1258
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: You know what I basically now make. I make a

1259
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: lot of when I'm making, you know, I take like late,

1260
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: I've been taking a lot of n a beer and

1261
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: adding not only bloody Mary mix, but all the bloody

1262
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: but all the bloody mary fixens. I'm making a red

1263
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: beer with bloody mary fixens. What are your favorite fixings? Like?

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Speaker 1: Just like all of pickle, asparagus, whatever. It's like a

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: crazy gass drink. It's like beer boody Mary mix. And

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Speaker 1: when you put all those all that salty stuff in there,

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01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: the fizz is bye bye, It's just gone. Are you

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Speaker 1: putting cheese in? You gotta have a little bit. I

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: have been great in any cheese. There might start ready,

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Speaker 1: bloody Mary. We're digging in. Now what happens? We tried

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Speaker 1: to have someone explain it before. That didn't satisfy either

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Speaker 1: of us. Now the stakes are high, alright, I will

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Speaker 1: do a better job. Here we go a paint a picture.

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Speaker 1: You're in a duck blind, okay, and someone shoots their

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01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: shotguns six inches from your ear. What just happened to you? Well?

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: A lot so gun bangs that loud? Okay, you think

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: about if you think about um I talked about this

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01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: a little bit in the generous article that Sam put

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Speaker 1: out on mediator dot com here recently. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've had a chance to peruse it. Sure, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So when you when you think about decibels, you know

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01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: you hear decibel, this decibel that, well you think think

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Speaker 1: about it in terms of sound pressure level, and sound

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01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: pressure is entering your ear at different intensities. Right, So

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Speaker 1: a gun shot, like you haven't thought of that before? Well,

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01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: there you go, So it really is. It is a

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Speaker 1: sound pressure level. And um, so we'll we'll take it

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Speaker 1: from a physiology standpoint. So the acoustic wave at a

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Speaker 1: sound whatever sound pressure level, enters your ear canal, hits

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Speaker 1: your ear drum, vibrates your ear drum, which then vibrates

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: the tiniest bones of your body, the osticles, the smallest

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: of which the stapes moves in and out of what

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01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: we call the window into your cochlea, which is your

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Speaker 1: hearing nerve, which is that little snail shell two and

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: a half turn that houses your hearing nerve where there's

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Speaker 1: these delicate hearing fibers. Now, I think this is pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: If you were to unroll that snail shell, it's like

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01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: a piano keyboard. So the little hair cells that get

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Speaker 1: hit first and the hardest are coded for the highest

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01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: pitches that you hear. And then as you move down

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Speaker 1: towards the other end of the cocleus inside the coil,

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: inside the coil, then you start getting down to the

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01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: base tones. So it's a tone of topic organization like that.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask a clarifying question about the pressure. Okay,

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: early weird joke about Turkey Gowel's way off. That's creating

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: a sound pressure. It's moving through the sound pressure level,

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: moving through the atmosphere in the form of a sound wave.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess never thought about what was sound is,

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Speaker 1: whenever thought it makes told sense, whenever thought about it

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Speaker 1: being that when you think about the sound waves, like

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Speaker 1: when we're at the lake and you can hear conversations

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Speaker 1: that are being had at a campsite across the lake

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Speaker 1: because the water, there's nothing to impede the flow of

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Speaker 1: those sound waves moving across the water. As opposed to

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Speaker 1: if you're in the woods and you've got all these

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Speaker 1: different baffles from the trees and the vegetation, that's going

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Speaker 1: to interfere with how well that sound waves travels to

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Speaker 1: your ear. The last morning of my turkey hunting season,

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Speaker 1: I was on the edge of the lake and then

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Speaker 1: about drove me nuts because they were turkey's goblin on

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Speaker 1: all sides of that lake. Because the sound was traveling

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Speaker 1: so well, I could not tell well and you can't

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Speaker 1: tell trying to pinpoint a blue grouse on the lake.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. We walked to the other side of

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Speaker 1: the lake and he still sounded across the lake. That's right,

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Speaker 1: he's back where we were well. And I'm I'm also

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Speaker 1: thinking from your hearing test we took, if one year

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Speaker 1: is better than the other, you're gonna have even more

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: double pin pointing where that sounds coming from. So that

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Speaker 1: was also to your disadvantage. I'm sorry, I just outed

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Speaker 1: your hearing. So um, it's cool to me that the

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Speaker 1: hearing nerve is coated like that for pitch because then,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I've said before, we hear with our

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Speaker 1: brains because it doesn't matter if if those hair fibers

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Speaker 1: what has to happen is then that they have to

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Speaker 1: transduce the sounds in it all the way up to

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Speaker 1: your brain, where it's then processed by your auditory cortex,

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Speaker 1: which is in each temporal lobe. And the auditory cortex

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01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: is also organized ton of topically, so there's surface area

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Speaker 1: of your brain that is dedicated to processing and interpreting

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Speaker 1: all these different pitches. So for that gunshot, it's coming

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Speaker 1: in hard and fast, and it's blasting those really high

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01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: pitches first, and depending on how loud it is, it's

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Speaker 1: it's getting the hair cells farther and farther down the cochlea.

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Speaker 1: But that's why we see that high pitch hearing loss

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: happen first as a result of noise exposure most typically

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01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: and hunters will see what because that the the pressures

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Speaker 1: damaging to the thing. If you picture it like almost

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01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: like the little what is that right there, I'm looking turkey.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the that's a very cool turkey

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Speaker 1: feather photo, thank you. But as you referring to u

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Speaker 1: um very detailed look at the end of turkey. It

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01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: almost looks trapped. Yeah, But so you have these sillia

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Speaker 1: and stereo sillia. These tiny hairs that are like this

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: and they're waiting on a sound to hit them, so

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Speaker 1: that then that activates an action potential that with the

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Speaker 1: synapse that sends the sound to your brain. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what's interesting about all that, All that wiring in

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: your brain is um and then it's like, then then

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Speaker 1: that is somehow lining up with learned experience. Yeah, where

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Speaker 1: you assign a right, it's doing all this and then

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Speaker 1: instantly assigning memory where the minute someone talks, your brains

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01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: are like, oh, they're over there, it's Bob. He's irritated. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And so when you asked those hair sell fibers and

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Speaker 1: they they kind of kill over a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: so you know, sometimes you'll leave a concert your ears

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: are ringing, or in this situation the pit blond, you

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: might walk out, your ears might be ringing, and if

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: you're lucky, after a few days or a few hours,

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Speaker 1: those hair cells will recover and you're here come back.

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Speaker 1: You'll think, oh, I'm great, I'm standing again. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: called a temporary threshold shift, and so those those hair

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Speaker 1: cells will kind of stand back up again, but you've

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Speaker 1: undoubtedly weakened them. But when they're bent over. What is

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01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: the ringing? That's a great question. So because our brains

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: are programmed to be looking for this this stimulation that's

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Speaker 1: coming in through the auditory system. So when you have

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Speaker 1: a very discreet pitch, like from a gunshot that's been damaged,

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01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: even temporarily, the brain is receiving great input from the

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Speaker 1: hair cell fibers right next door to the ones that

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Speaker 1: have been damaged. And so it's getting all this great

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: stimulation and it's searching for a signal that's not coming,

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: and it manufactures this ringing. The best way I know

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01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: to provide an analogy to this is like a phantom

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01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: limb syndrome. Someone loses a limb and they perceive pain

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01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: in a limb that's no longer there. Your your brain

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: is searching for sensory input that's not coming. Which is

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: why when I've written about I've got a good article

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Speaker 1: on tenadus, I'm kind of proud of it. But in

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Speaker 1: that article it talks about how sometimes in audiology and

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Speaker 1: audiologists will work to program into whatever your level devices

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Speaker 1: you're wearing, a background noise that's pitch matched in loudnessmatched

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01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: to your ringing. If it's a pervasive problem, and that

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01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 1: provides the stimulation that's missing right at that pitch tells

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: your brain to calm down. Tenadus is a fascinating topic,

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Speaker 1: and we could spend other than tenitus. Tomato tomato. Is

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Speaker 1: it okay? It is okay? My doctor said, tendatives. I said, like,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was tenitas. He goes, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is the academic medical community, like if I'm

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: at continuing at lectures that sort of thing, everybody talks

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01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: about TIS. But for whatever reason, in the public realm,

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01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot, you know either way either way. But um,

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01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: but anyway, you know, the limbic system is very involved

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01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: in regulating ringing. If you have it pervasively, you know,

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01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: you'll notice that stress, caffeine salts, lack of sleep. What's

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Speaker 1: the limbic system. The limbic system is UM. You can

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01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of equate it to almost like a nervous system

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01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: or an emotional regulating system. It's the system that, like

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01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: when your cortisol levels are amped and you're really stressed, UM,

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: there's an internal gating system that your your brain is

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01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: working to try to overcome those things. And when that

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: system is taxed because of stress because of lack of sleep, anxiety, um,

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01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: too much caffeine. That's when you might notice that that

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Speaker 1: ringing hits like a fever pitch. And some people are like, oh,

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01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,440
Speaker 1: that sounds like voodoo whatever. I don't believe in meditation,

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: but that's why some of the psychological side of tenadis

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: is the best man agement because once you learn that

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01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: that there are these coping strategies and you kind of

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01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 1: pay attention to stay in tune with what's happening, um

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01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: with your body and kind of where you are in life.

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: That sometimes if you are able to get a few

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01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: really good night's sleep and just drink a bunch of

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: water and maybe lay off the alcohol and caffeine, you'll

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: get some relief in that ringing. You know what, now

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01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: that I've started to struggle with it, and I haven't

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01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: it hasn't been bad for months whatever reason. Um, it's

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01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: self perpetuating in a way because it will get real quiet,

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: Like it might just be you're out hunting or whatever,

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: listening for goggles and then you're like, oh, wow, there

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01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: it is because in a quiet place, and then that

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: ship then your brains like why is it there? Why

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01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: is it there? Why is it there? And then it

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01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: becomes deafening and you're like, well, it wasn't deafening a

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: minute ago. It's only deafening now because I'm so like

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: fixated on it, and then and then I hear it

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01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: for days. Yes, when you tune into it, I mean

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01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: truly the focus and the attention. And so if you

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: can like mentally get yourself into a mental space where

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01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: you can distract yourself from it with either a masking

1440
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: noise or play some soft music in the background something

1441
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: to get your mind off of it, it truly does help.

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01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at scientifically. Where now I have, like

1443
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:15,480
Speaker 1: in my little memory bank, I have places and in context,

1444
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: I know where I can be in and I know

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01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: it won't be there. Yeah, Like you get in the

1446
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: car and go drive, it's not there. You think about it,

1447
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: noise from the road and the truck. Is it bad

1448
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: enough that you'll go, I'm here right now, But will

1449
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: you ever go take a step to make it go away? No,

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: So it's never a bad enough You're like, I'm going

1451
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: to go for a drive. Can you pass the little

1452
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: pickled corns? There? Like I've had some people that are

1453
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: so debilitated by it. I mean they are they're not sleeping.

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01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's really affecting their lives. So these fancy

1455
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: new earpieces you got us though, Yeah, they got that

1456
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: little background noise, the background sounds. And that's because this

1457
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: particular product I've got you trying is um it may

1458
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: buy hearing a company, and so it's using a hearing

1459
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: aid chip, you know, just we connected through the hearing

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01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: aid settings, not the Bluetooth settings, and so in the

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01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: hearing aid world, we often use those settings to program

1462
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: in that background noise. So it might just help you

1463
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: with focus. You know, if if you don't have ringing,

1464
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: if you just want to go into a zin space

1465
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: in your office and like not only have the ear

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01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: plugs in, but block out. But you know, if you

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01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: have ringing in the ears, it can be a tool.

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it's there for. It's on the hearing

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Speaker 1: aid chip. What does PRO mean your company? ODO is

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Speaker 1: the medical prefix for ear. A nottologist is an ear doctor,

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01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: and then PRO is professional protection. Yeah, I was tracking

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: that part. Yeah, it came to me when I was

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01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: sitting in church, so I decided it was divinely inspired.

1474
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: I get questions about it, or could that you weren't

1475
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: paying attention to church. Yeah, don't don't tell my pastor hey,

1476
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: it's gone really well, I'm here with you now, so

1477
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe it was want to be maybe

1478
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: it was uh you went so now that we were,

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: is there more you want to say about, like what

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: goes on? Because that was my dyeing, that was my

1481
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: number one dying question. I'm satisfied with the explanation now,

1482
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: But what is it when you get like the wham? Yeah,

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: but this part two, there's a part two. Then a

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01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: couple days later you're like, oh, went away. Um, but

1485
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: eventually it kind of creep up. But eventually it kind

1486
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: of didn't write like you do that enough times throughout

1487
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: your life, or your shoot a suppressor and you're not

1488
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: being careful, or you're a little kid and you're burning up,

1489
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: or you're a little kid and your mom and dad

1490
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: give you those little milk cartons stow of twenty two

1491
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: shells and it's just like incessant all day shooting until

1492
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: you run out. Maybe we never wore hearing protection. It

1493
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: was like as unheard of as having a bike helmet.

1494
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: Why would you do? Yeah, but this is why I'm

1495
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: guilful about the future of where we're going with hearing health,

1496
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: because all of us sitting around this table did not

1497
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: grow up with hearing protection. But we're thinking about it,

1498
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: and we're sure as heck thinking about it for our kids.

1499
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: We're going to the range today. This is how trained

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: people are when we're going to the rain change today.

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01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: And then we got flooded out. Uh my kid, I

1502
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: was gonna bring him with. I had my older boy

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01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: with me. I wasn't bring the other ones, but they

1504
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: were still sleeping. He um. He said, already you have

1505
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: my headphones. I was like, man, that's not a sentence

1506
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: I would ever said. Good for him. I mean truly,

1507
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: because noise damage is cumulative. I like to equate it

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01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: to sun exposure. Like I wish I could go back

1509
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: to my I hate to even admit this now, but

1510
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: like my time I spent in the early nineties and

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01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: a tanning bed, the amount of money I'm spending now

1512
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,879
Speaker 1: to try to reverse that damage. With all the potions

1513
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: and lotions and facials and all that stuff. You know,

1514
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: you're being getting stuff cut off yourself. No, I just mean, like,

1515
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, trying to smooth out the wrinkles and the

1516
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: skin clear and all that stuff because all the sun

1517
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: spots and sun damage from baking in the sun. But

1518
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,919
Speaker 1: you know, at the time, I might get a little sunburned,

1519
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: but then it goes away and you think, oh it's fine,

1520
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: but it's damaging, and it's damage that might not show

1521
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: up until later. And you're hearing is a lot the same.

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01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: You know, our our regulatory systems. You have got NIOSH

1523
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: and you've got OSHA on how much you want to

1524
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: get into that, But um NIOSH does the research, makes

1525
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: the recommendations, and then OSHA is what enforces the workplace guidelines. Okay,

1526
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: And so you know, with both of those systems there's

1527
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: a big problem because they're assuming that all of your

1528
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: noise exposure is during an eight hour work day. So

1529
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: they give you these doses and like time allowances for

1530
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: certain noise levels, but they don't take into account that

1531
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: you may go home and mow the grass, or go

1532
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: hear some live music, or just blast the radio in

1533
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: your car, you know, and or sleep with a sound

1534
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: machine on blasting like you're in like the rainforest cafe

1535
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: or something, you know, And so all of this enough

1536
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: to do something, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean sure, it

1537
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: depends on the lawnmower. I mean my dad was cutting

1538
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: grass with the big tractor, you know, and sit on

1539
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 1: the tractor idling and like nothing in your ears blower

1540
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: has got to be up there. Oh yeah yeah, And

1541
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: that's as like that. That noise is kind of like

1542
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: it gets to you, right, and the chainsaw gets to

1543
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: you well, and it'll get to you more and more

1544
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: as you're hearing gets worse and worse. Because an interesting,

1545
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: really interesting thing. One of us talked about this earlier.

1546
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: The more hearing loss you have, the less tolerance you

1547
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,560
Speaker 1: have for loud sounds. So like I used to be

1548
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: able to stand front center at my favorite shows in Nashville,

1549
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: and I mean I was just enjoying it. Nothing ever

1550
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 1: sounded distorted or I didn't get that buzzy, rattily feeling.

1551
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: But I get that now, so I wear my little customers.

1552
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: That's so surprising that it makes you because you think

1553
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: you'd just be like zoned out. And that's why when

1554
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: you are ready to seek hering aids or hearing technology,

1555
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear calm hearing aids anymore

1556
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: because they've come so far with what they can do.

1557
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: But that's why it's really important to not just walk

1558
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: into like a Costco or Sam's. You need to find

1559
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: a qualified credential person to help you with this. Not

1560
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: only is in an ongoing relationship that requires some tuning

1561
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: and it's just not a one size fits all, but

1562
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: it gets really tricky because your dynamic range, your tolerable

1563
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: range of hearing, gets smaller and smaller, and we're trying

1564
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: to make things sound naturally while using a lot of

1565
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: compression to fit everything in that window, and that's tricky

1566
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: to do. We moved into a house. The first house

1567
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: my wife and I bought, it was like the whole

1568
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: ground floor was there's no walls, no divisions, like all

1569
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: the way open and man, my stress level with the

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01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: kids echoing like you've been there trying to cook dinner

1571
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: and you've got some music on and they're like fighting

1572
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: about something or banging around, throwing balls around. Yeah, it

1573
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: would make me go mad, and the people around me

1574
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,520
Speaker 1: weren't going mad, like it was like it's like a comphony,

1575
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: you know. Well, I feel like for me personally, I've

1576
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: also lost some tolerance, not not necessarily only of just

1577
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: really loud sounds, but of being able to focus in

1578
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the midst of a lot of noisy chaos going on

1579
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: around me. Like I used to be able to study,

1580
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, with friends in the apartment, music and people

1581
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: doing this, and I could zone in and focus. And

1582
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: now my ability to focus in the midst of a

1583
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: lot of that chaos has really decreased, which is interesting.

1584
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: You got some like frontal lobe executive functioned and I

1585
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: don't know, but is that is that necessarily related to

1586
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: hearing loss or is that just related to like your

1587
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: brain changes over time. And I think it's both. I

1588
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: think it's like what gives you like grumpy people, grumpy

1589
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: old people, grumpy old people. My dad jerks his hearing

1590
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: aids out. The grandkids come around. I've got three kids,

1591
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: My sister's got three kids. They're running around and he

1592
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: loves them. But oh man, I mean he jerks, says

1593
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 1: hearing aids out and puts them on the table. I'm like, dad,

1594
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: come on, come on. So because he feels like it's

1595
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: easier for him to deal without the aids because he

1596
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: just wants them to be quiet, and instead of asking

1597
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 1: them to be quiet, which he knows it's not gonna work.

1598
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: He just takes his hearing aids off or mutes them,

1599
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: or start streaming a ball game through them instead of

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01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: listening to the children. You know, survival methan doesn't. What

1601
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: else you want to know explained? Like what the long

1602
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: term damage looks like? I mean, if all these things

1603
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 1: are physical structures, right, so you can presumably you could, uh,

1604
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: you could do what do you call it when someone

1605
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: dies apart? You're do an autopsy? Well, I don't know,

1606
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: I say, presumably. I don't know the answer to this.

1607
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Could you do an autopsy on a on a dead

1608
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: person who had just was exposed like outrageous levels of

1609
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: loud noise and had hearing damage? Could you do an

1610
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: autopsy and say, like through a microscope or whatever, like, oh,

1611
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: this person, uh suffered damage from loud noise? Or is

1612
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: it that you can't because you can't see the inner

1613
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: workings of the brain. Well, I think there could be

1614
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: even a more interesting way to look at it. And

1615
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: that gives me a great segue. This kind of ties

1616
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 1: into how I why I started outo produ begin with.

1617
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: So I was working clinically and my clinical knee should

1618
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of evolve to become an area where I was

1619
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: working with a lot of people who had dementia and

1620
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: hearing loss, and I was looking at how there was

1621
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: this negative synergy between the two. And there was a

1622
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 1: lot of good research coming out from John's Hopkins University

1623
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: of colle Rotto at the time looking at what's happening

1624
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: in your brain with auditory deprivation and untreated hearing lass.

1625
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: This we're seeing this, this negative synergy. So and I

1626
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: see that first. I only heard about that just recently,

1627
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: the link between. So I started kind of writing and

1628
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: putting together some articles for other audiologists, taking basically a

1629
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: lit review of what we know right now in research

1630
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: and how you can apply this to your clinical practice.

1631
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 1: And so then when our University Medical Center in Mississippi

1632
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: was chosen as a data collection site for this study

1633
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: out of Johns Hopkins looking at this topic, it was

1634
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: like I was the prime person to go work on

1635
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: this study. So did that, and so we're looking at

1636
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: we're this particular study was looking at whether hearing aid

1637
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: intervention could delay the onset or slow the rate of

1638
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: decline for dementia. And for example, I'll tell you like

1639
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: it's core, both of those things were positively positively correlated

1640
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: with the degree of untreated hearing laws. So with a

1641
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: severe untreated hearing loss, we were seeing an onset of

1642
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: dementia that was three point two years earlier than it

1643
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: would have been otherwise and five times faster right of

1644
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: decline then compared to the normal control. Is it like,

1645
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna get to this, But is it just

1646
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: because your brain is not like that level of activity

1647
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: isn't occurring in your brain. Well, there's two things to

1648
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: primary processes that really stuck stuck out to me. One

1649
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: was called cross moodal plasticity. The other was cortical resource reallocation. Well,

1650
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I'll break that down quickly. So one thing is when

1651
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you are struggling to hear because you're not getting that

1652
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: auditory signal, think about yourself like out of wedding at

1653
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: at sets upcoming wedding reception. So you're trying to talk

1654
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: to somebody, there's a band play and there's music. You

1655
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: are focusing in so hard to try to understand what

1656
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: that person is saying in the moment that there's less

1657
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: cognitive reserve left over to recall that information later. So

1658
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: you're much more likely to remember my name if I

1659
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: introduced to you during this quiet room podcast, and it's

1660
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: easy listening environment. Then you are when you are focused

1661
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: in and just trying to know in that moment, so

1662
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: there's less room for later recall of information. So that's

1663
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: one thing that's playing in when people are struggling to hear.

1664
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: They have a harder time remembering what they heard. All

1665
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: their energies to all their energyes is going to that.

1666
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: But to your point of how could we look at

1667
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 1: the physical aspect of what's happening? Um, it was the

1668
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: University of Colorado that started looking at this, and this

1669
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: was the the cross moodal plasticity thing. So we could

1670
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 1: put somebody in a functional mri I that had a

1671
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: bunch of hearing loss or even with mild and moderate

1672
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: hearing loss, play an auditory signal and then give some

1673
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: visual stimuli and we start to see that the areas

1674
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: of the brain specifically, what is the audio and what

1675
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 1: is the visual Um. I'd have to look back at

1676
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: the study to tell you exactly what the audio was.

1677
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were playing like their favorite

1678
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: music or if they were playing clicks and beeps, but

1679
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: individual will be not You're not like watching a movie,

1680
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: you're just seeing something, You're just seeing something like images

1681
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: of something. But the but the moral is we're starting

1682
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: to see where that if if the area of the

1683
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: brain it's coded to process sound is not being used

1684
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: to process sound, it's going to get recruited by other

1685
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: sensory systems to process that input. So we would start

1686
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: to see your auditory cortex light up in response to

1687
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: a visual stimulus. Think about how, um, you know, people

1688
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: who have lost their vision have a higher alertness for

1689
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: their hearing, or people who are deaf might have a

1690
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: higher visual acuity, or you think about the ability to

1691
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: read brail, you know, And it's because the brain is

1692
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: able to devote more surface area to those processes because

1693
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: it's not being used for what it was intended, so

1694
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: that the neural connections start to reorganize. And so we

1695
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: could look at that and say, Okay, how much has

1696
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: your brain reorganized because of the sensory deprivation and so

1697
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: anyway I could go on for it, but hit me

1698
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: with why that might lead to why the hearing loss

1699
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: could like you explained it with the term that like

1700
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: you're working hard to hear everything you're not processing, But

1701
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: what is the what is the other one. What is

1702
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: how does that relate to hear? That reorganization relate to

1703
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: hear you like you're robbed, Like parts of your brain

1704
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 1: are robbing from other parts. Parts your brain are robbing

1705
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: from other parts. And that's part of what they're still

1706
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: trying to distinguish is exactly how those changes in their

1707
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: old processes are relating to that breakdown long term, like

1708
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: something that you need might be like neglected or reallocated

1709
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: or that's right, that's right, and so um, those are

1710
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 1: just two of the of the main points that I

1711
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: find really cool about how your brain is responding to

1712
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: that lack of input. And then that's why when if

1713
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you have a really a big hearing loss and you

1714
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: put on these amplified earplugs or hearing it's for the

1715
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: first time, it all just might sound like noise, and

1716
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,799
Speaker 1: you have to give your brain time almost like physical

1717
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: therapy for your brain. It's like auditory training. Um, just

1718
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: like learning to blow a duckt collum. You gotta you

1719
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: gotta give your brain time to readjust so that things

1720
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: can start to sound normal again. Uh. I'm gonna tell

1721
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: how we met, please do okay? So the reason Grace

1722
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: is sitting here is because I don't know who arranged this,

1723
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. You came in to do a company

1724
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: wide You came in to do a company wide fitting. Yeah,

1725
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: and I was like someone I don't know who told

1726
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: me someone like, hey, if you want to get some

1727
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: uh custom your plugs, go to the downstairs at like

1728
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: noon or whatever. It sounds interesting. So I went down

1729
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: and you and I got to shooting the ship about

1730
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: hearing protection. And then like two hours later, you want

1731
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: to come on the Five Games said you should come

1732
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: on the podcast and tell everybody about what happens when

1733
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: this happens. So back to how we met. We met

1734
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: like how did it come to me that you came

1735
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: to do like for like, who invited you to come

1736
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,799
Speaker 1: do that? This business has been so relational driven for me. Um,

1737
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: So because of all this research I was looking at,

1738
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I wanted my own family to have good hearing protection.

1739
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 1: So I started going to people's houses after Yeah, Well,

1740
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: I was like, I want my own dad to be

1741
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: wearing good hearing protection, but he would not come into

1742
01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: the medical clinic to do it. So I said, well,

1743
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: I'll just go to you. And then words started spreading,

1744
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 1: and then This was never part of the business plan.

1745
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: I never set out to create this national network of

1746
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: audiologist and be on this crusade for hearing protection. But

1747
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: it's organically gotten to that point and it is. It

1748
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: has been wild and amazing to just be in this journey.

1749
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 1: But I'm we met through chef Sean Paul, your guy

1750
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: that does Duck Camp Dinners the show. It's a great show, um.

1751
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: And I was introduced to him through this guy, Josh Raggio,

1752
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: who lives down in my neck of the woods. Raggio

1753
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Custom Calls is his like duck call, Like these coutour

1754
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: duck calls, they're like art, They're amazing. That's first time

1755
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: anyone's ever used that word on this podcast. I've never

1756
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: even heard that word. Which it's like you'd be like,

1757
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: um uh, what will be a co tour brand? I

1758
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: don't know, like a like a high end designer, beautiful boogie,

1759
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 1: one of a kindre made for you custom could Um,

1760
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think like in my mind, I

1761
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: feel it would be applied to like handbags, right, like

1762
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: very expensive hand isn't the handbag? And there's Juicy co Tour, right,

1763
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: there's Juicy Coe Tour which is like, oh you t

1764
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:23,559
Speaker 1: you are? Yeah, what is juicy co tour being not

1765
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: co tour? Right? That's being juicy trashy. You said it,

1766
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 1: not me. What's funny about you making the comparison to

1767
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 1: handbags is her and I were talking about Raggio custom

1768
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 1: calls earlier and I said they are like handbags for dudes.

1769
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: He did say that, He did say that. But but

1770
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: so I met Raggio at a Duck's Unlimited banquet back

1771
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: when I was first getting started, and I'm like, hey,

1772
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll just throw up a table and go talk to

1773
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 1: people about hearing protection at this du banquet. Oh no, no, backup,

1774
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: because is this still how we met? Yeah? Okay, so

1775
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: so that's how you got tied into the call? Yeah,

1776
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: the flow, You're laid out the flow. I'm at the

1777
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: Duck call guy at the d U banquet and how

1778
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 1: do you want the du banquet? Because I had started

1779
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: this little ODO pro business and people were interested, and

1780
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'll just go set up a

1781
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: little table and talk to people that come to the

1782
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Ducks and Limited banquet and did you bring your little

1783
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: squirt gun and everything? For doing them? Absolutely? And I

1784
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:16,919
Speaker 1: did it right there in the middle of the banquet,

1785
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: and so does. She takes a cock gun sticks that

1786
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: thing where it has no business going. It's like on

1787
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: my Instagram, I'm gonna put a picture up where someone

1788
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: took a video of it happening to me, and I'm

1789
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna make a screen grab of the point where it

1790
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: got to where she wants it to be. To start

1791
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: filling your ear full of cock to get an impression.

1792
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're encouraging people to come

1793
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: to me, because let me tell you something. I a

1794
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 1: while ago, I don't want name names, but while I

1795
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: go Yanny and I had the opportunity to get some

1796
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: name and name no, I mean, I can eat your

1797
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: name who you were somewhere. They didn't do that. They

1798
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: didn't do the deep dive. It's like getting a COVID

1799
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: test for your ear. Yeah, I was gonna say, if

1800
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: you had one of the early COVID tests where it

1801
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: felt like they were tickling your brain through your nose,

1802
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: that's grace. This is similar to that, but through your ear.

1803
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Now she gets deep. She's taken a deep she puts

1804
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: in a what is that ship? What are you? What

1805
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: are you putting in there? It's like a two part

1806
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: of POxy type goes in soft way couple minutes, pulls

1807
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: out it like makes a impression, makes a very detail impression,

1808
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: but she likes to the impression is it's deep. Yeah,

1809
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: it's deep, and it needs to go past the bend

1810
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 1: of your the second bend of your ear canal, because

1811
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're not shooting the sound

1812
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: right into your ear canal wall. I want to I

1813
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: want to point that sound right to your ear drum,

1814
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: and it's actually more comfortable and if you go run around,

1815
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: it stays in. Explain that more. I think you just

1816
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: said something that makes sense to me because we've been

1817
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: having this conversation. If someone's listening is like, what are

1818
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: they talking? What are you saying when you're saying I

1819
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: want to shoot that sound, not just that you're your

1820
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: ear canal wall, so you're most human ears have two bends.

1821
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: There's a first bend where it curves around, and then

1822
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: there's a second bend, which is why you don't want

1823
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: to put que tips in there, because you're pushing stuff

1824
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 1: around the second bend. That's where it builds up and

1825
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: that's where I get the Q tip needs to hire

1826
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: a better lobby, dude. People beat up on q tips,

1827
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 1: but there's still que tips. They're still qute tips. I

1828
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: use them with my to put some makeup on. What

1829
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: about using hydrogen peroxide? That's okay, that's good as long

1830
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: as you don't have a hole in your ear drum

1831
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: or anything, because I could get that, but it works.

1832
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? You put hydrogen peroxide in

1833
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: your ear, it bubbles up and they just basically then

1834
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 1: you take a syringe and squirt some water in there

1835
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: and flushes everything out. Man, I go careful. I go

1836
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: down periodically and have these chunks that ship that looks

1837
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: like the end of a pencil eraser. About that hard?

1838
01:44:54,800 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: What are you saying? Oh? But to this point? So um,

1839
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, if if I don't accommodate the bins of

1840
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: your ear canal by by making a really deep impression

1841
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: and getting that full picture, then the sound is going

1842
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 1: to come through the ear plug. You mean the sound

1843
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: that you want to come in, right, It's going to

1844
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 1: come through the ear plug. And then if if the

1845
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: ear plug dead ends into your ear canal wall, that's

1846
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: not gonna sound very good. That's like putting a speaker

1847
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: and facing it toward the wall. You gotta back up

1848
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: because I feel like people might be confused you were

1849
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: fitting us for hearing protection that it's like, uh, it's

1850
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: it's flushed to your ear. The ones what are these

1851
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: call that I have? Those are the sound gear Phantom.

1852
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: It made a mold, but they're like little headphones but

1853
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: ear plugs, but ear plugs. When you say the sound

1854
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about, that you can turn it on and

1855
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: control it with your phone and turn the volume up

1856
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: so that you can converse and be like, hey, here

1857
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: comes some talks at ten o'clock. And there's lots of

1858
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: different products. I mean, one thing I definitely want your

1859
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: listenership to know is that I'm by no means bound

1860
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: to one brander manufacturer. The big backpack full of full

1861
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: of loot I brought for you guys, there were like

1862
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 1: four different companies represented in that bag, So I'm not

1863
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: doing like a big push for one product specifically. In fact,

1864
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, I want a bunch of you guys to

1865
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: try this product and then if it's not doing everything

1866
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: you wanted to do, let's swap it out and try

1867
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: something else. I mean, Otto pro is basically like an

1868
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: expert brokerage and customer service agency for your hearing long term.

1869
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 1: So like you have the sound gear FANTOM, if something breaks,

1870
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: you don't have to call that eight hundred number. You

1871
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: shoot me a text or an email, and myself or

1872
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 1: maybe Jennifer or somebody else on the team is going

1873
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: to reach out and be like, what's going on. I'll

1874
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: email you a prepaid UPS label. We'll get it turned

1875
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: around SAP. So it's out. O pro is built on

1876
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,959
Speaker 1: a customer service basis where I am researching the globe

1877
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: for the coolest, best product. I brought a couple of

1878
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: things for you guys to try that aren't even rated

1879
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: in the US system for noise reduction yet, but I

1880
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: think they're pretty promising and you might really like them.

1881
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: How often do you go do like you did for

1882
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: our for us here? How often do you all to

1883
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: a place in Man? I've been to some cool places,

1884
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: and in reading your book, I kept thinking about this

1885
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 1: one really cool place where parents are raising their kids,

1886
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: like ideally, But anyway, I've traveled with some of the

1887
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: coolest gun clubs, shooting clubs, UM groups will call me,

1888
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 1: and of course I do some quick back of the

1889
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: Napkin math and I'm like, hey, do you have at

1890
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 1: least this many people interested? You know, I need a

1891
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 1: minimum sales amount to justify travel. Is it all gun

1892
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: people or is it other people to know it's it's guns,

1893
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: it's shooting, but it's also motorcycles. Music. I work with

1894
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of musicians because of my training in Nashville,

1895
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of experience with in your monitors,

1896
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 1: and I can build out different cool products, Like for

1897
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: one of your camera guys, I've built out basically a

1898
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: dual driver in your monitor that can plug into his camera,

1899
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: but then also putting Matt gag. I didn't say it right.

1900
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: So also because that's one thing you've seen drive camera

1901
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 1: guys nuts going through the woods with the wires. Yeah,

1902
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: so like three all their bushes back. You know, that's

1903
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: in like this other product I made for you that

1904
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: has this specils she filter in it. I put that

1905
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: into his product as well, so that he can hear

1906
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: what you're saying in real life. He can hear leaves rustling,

1907
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: but then he's also plugged into his camera. You have

1908
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: to make a product called the camera dude. Let's call

1909
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: it the camera dude. I mean this is something that

1910
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm just working with with my manufacturer to just custom

1911
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 1: build cool things. And then uh, and then I was complaining.

1912
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: Another thing that prompted us to have you come on

1913
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 1: talk about your services is I was saying how I

1914
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: had just gone to order a good swim ear plug

1915
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: and when I'm after to swim, anyone that suffers from

1916
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: where you you spend time in the water and then

1917
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 1: you have water your ear and it drives you little bonkers,

1918
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: or I've had and it's ever happened to people, But

1919
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: someone like kicks a fin close to your head or

1920
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 1: does a fast movement close to your head and pushes

1921
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: a wall of water, it's painful. Well, in your ear

1922
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: canals are quite bendy, as we found out with your

1923
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 1: Emerald impression process, so water can get trapped back there

1924
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: harder for it to run back. So I went online

1925
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: and bought some kind of like Joe Blow nineteen dollar

1926
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: thing and it made a big difference. But every time

1927
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: I get out of water, I'm missing one or both

1928
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: of them, and I would just tie them to the

1929
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: back of my mask and so I'd usually like recover

1930
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: them somehow, but they would never were they were when

1931
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: I started but I was having positive like I was.

1932
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: You call it body surfing my kids, right, and I

1933
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 1: had them in and UM made a big difference because

1934
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm a really scared to do that kind of stuff

1935
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: because that sort of thing gets water my ears. But

1936
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: you made me a souped up one of those, and

1937
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 1: they're corded. And and now that I've got your ears

1938
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: molded in a digital file of that, if Heaven forbid

1939
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: you lose them, you just shoot me a message and

1940
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: I'll get you another set made, I don't have to

1941
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 1: mold your ears again, So that's nice. But you know

1942
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: one thing, you know, these custom products. I'm a big

1943
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: believer in custom for hearing protection, not just for comfort,

1944
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: but to achieve that perfect acoustic seal because any air

1945
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: leakage the sound waves can travel through. So to really

1946
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: protect you, I want you and custom ideally. But I

1947
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: also recognize that an entry price point of a couple

1948
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 1: of hundred bucks is not accessible to a lot of people.

1949
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 1: So one thing that I really took into account after

1950
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 1: meeting with you guys back here in March, I started

1951
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 1: really thinking, like, how do I create something that can

1952
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: be more accessible? You know, we said my job is

1953
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: to give you the most realistic tools that you'll actually wear.

1954
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to convince you to not shoot or hunt,

1955
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 1: nor do I want to, And you're not going to

1956
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 1: wear a full body armor to like have ideal hearing protection.

1957
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 1: So I started thinking, and I decided I can put

1958
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: these filters that are in this product I made for

1959
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: you where you can hear soft medium sounds great and

1960
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: then it blocks the blast of the gun. But those

1961
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: are out the door some odd bucks. I'm going to

1962
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: take that exact filter. This is going to be available

1963
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 1: beginning next month on my website, and I'm putting those

1964
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:55,520
Speaker 1: into multiple size triple flange sleeves to make a universal

1965
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: fit version that's just fifty bucks, and then they're big.

1966
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: Plus they are upgradeable to custom later, so you could

1967
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 1: go to my website and you could order a custom

1968
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 1: fit sleeve later if you want to. If you want

1969
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: to save up, somebody get it. How do you get

1970
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: it molded? So I send that kit in the mail. No, no,

1971
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: because you can't do it yourself like I did it

1972
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 1: on you. So I've got this growing network right now,

1973
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: We're up to about a hundred and sixty providers across

1974
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 1: the country. And we're sourcing new clinics daily where I

1975
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: work with local audiologists to you down the street from

1976
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: wherever you live, and I talk with them, develop a

1977
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: relationship so that they know exactly how I want that

1978
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 1: molding process done, so we can communicate. You can check

1979
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: out on the website and then I send you the

1980
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 1: UPS label and facilitate that whole appointment locally for you

1981
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: to get your ears molden. One of the biggest reasons

1982
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to get nice customs, which I now have

1983
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: owned for two hours. Um, I'm extremely lazy. I've gotten

1984
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: to the point where I'll go to the range and

1985
01:51:55,479 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: bring headphones, but I just won't do it. Maybe duck hunting.

1986
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: If I know it's gonna be a stellar day, I'll

1987
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 1: do it. But it still drives me nuts and I'll

1988
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: put headphones on. I've never found something that inspires me

1989
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 1: to do it. And my buddy Cal got some he

1990
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: said once he had him, and he's like, man, all

1991
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: that hassle, I'm definitely gonna wear him now like that

1992
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: like some pragmatics. Yeah, now he's now. Anytime you do

1993
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: anything with Cal, he's got those things hanging around his

1994
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: neck and he sticks him in and I just won't

1995
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 1: do it. And last year Garrett there did. He's got

1996
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a little what's it called big, he had a big

1997
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,799
Speaker 1: bastard bastard break on, that fat bastard break on shot

1998
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 1: three times. I kept thinking he was done shooting, and

1999
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 1: he kept shooting. Were like to I think I think

2000
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: it echoed off that pine tree. And I was sitting

2001
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: too close to you, and I didn't want to plug

2002
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: my ears because look at through my binocular. We both

2003
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: had our ear pro just sitting on our backpacks, you know,

2004
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: But it was typical thing. You're like, oh, we gotta

2005
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: move now, like we don't have time to put this in,

2006
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: and and you know, as I'm as, I'm like, I

2007
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: now consider myself your personal hearing coach. So you're here,

2008
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: we go. But as I'm as I'm talking to you guys,

2009
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm really going to encourage you to try to wear

2010
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: these as much as you can, just to get used

2011
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: to them so that when you put them on and

2012
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: you're in the moment and you're in the hunt and

2013
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 1: you need to focus, I don't want you to have

2014
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 1: to remember in that moment, oh, I gotta put my

2015
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,839
Speaker 1: ears in before I shoot because you're not going to remember.

2016
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm committed to changing it because when I do, I've

2017
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: done two hearing tests. Each time I do a hearing test,

2018
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: the person conducting the hearing test says I'm a left

2019
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 1: handed shooter. I'll point out they say that in your

2020
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: right ear, which makes sense because that's the one tip

2021
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: towards the muzzle that I have hearing damage in my

2022
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 1: right ear. That is the type of hearing damage associated

2023
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:52,799
Speaker 1: with like loud noises. So I know that I've whacked

2024
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 1: out my own ear. Yeah, absolutely, And I know that

2025
01:53:55,840 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: other people hear gobbles better than I do, a lot better. Well,

2026
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll be to see, like you know, I'm I've thrown

2027
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: this this really high end technology at you guys to

2028
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: try as a starting point, but you might find that

2029
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: if you don't want to have to remember to charge something,

2030
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 1: then that's something we're gonna be talking about, like how

2031
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 1: these different features work for you, because I might need

2032
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: to swap it out for a simpler battery operated version,

2033
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 1: or you know, there's it's not a one size fits

2034
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 1: at Like you know, I don't want these listeners to

2035
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I want whatever Chester has, or I

2036
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: want whatever Steve has because different people are gonna have

2037
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: different adoption rates for different technologies. I got an apology

2038
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: I gotta make to you. Okay, I want to mind

2039
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: read on the right. Do you remember this? And I said,

2040
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: because it'll be like I'm a boat red right returning.

2041
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 1: Do you know how's wrong? It's right. It's red right

2042
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: from the person looking at its stage right versus so

2043
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: your boat. If I'm the boat, the red is being

2044
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: my left and then you're looking at me and you

2045
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: think right. That's one of those situations where ignorance is bliss. Steve,

2046
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: just go with red right right. One of mine is

2047
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: red ones blue. I look, I'm like red right. I

2048
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: put that in my ear, and I know the other

2049
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: one that was red right too. Yeah. A lot of

2050
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: you guys did red blue. A lot of them did orange.

2051
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: I just did. There's you. I think you can't physically

2052
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: put the right one in the left ear. I mean

2053
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna Yeah, that's so stupid. He did both red.

2054
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Guy's never gonna figure it out.

2055
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: Tell you why. I lose things a lot, and I

2056
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: just wanted two things that I could see. I feel

2057
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: like the red sticks out a little more than the blue. Well,

2058
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fiddling around by the time you get

2059
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: those in, the animals gonna be gone. You can just

2060
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: look and be like, oh, that one's right, that one's left.

2061
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: That might be a product you want to work into

2062
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: your fifty version, because the one I used to use

2063
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: a lot as a guide as I had those Howard

2064
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: light Um the band that would just sit on my

2065
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: neck and they're just those little foamies and then in

2066
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 1: the moment you can just you know, pop them in

2067
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: real quick. Anotherbody of mine has the little folmies that

2068
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: are on the cord and he ties them into his

2069
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: sunglasses that are He's always wearing them into the little flies. No.

2070
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if if that's all you have, that can

2071
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: protect you really well, but it's just nobody wears them correctly.

2072
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: If I see someone wearing phonies correctly, it's like I

2073
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: want to go give him a high five. Listen, I've

2074
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 1: been preaching and carrying on your message about foamies since

2075
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: we last hung out. I bet you I've thinking at

2076
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 1: least a dozen people how to properly insert a phoney. Now,

2077
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: I love that because truly, at the end of the day,

2078
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,839
Speaker 1: when people contact me through my website or social whatever.

2079
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: And if they're just not going to purchase anything else,

2080
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: then you know what, I'll at least show you how

2081
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 1: to wear foami or plugs correctly, and then eventually, when

2082
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: you're ready, you're going to come back and we'll work

2083
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: something out. But like my job is to help people

2084
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: protect their hearing. Everybody a hot tip right now, help

2085
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: him out there. You're gonna pull up that foamire plug

2086
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: to be just as narrow and skinny as you can

2087
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: tight tight. You're gonna pull back on the on the

2088
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: back of your ear to straighten out your ear canal,

2089
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: and then put it in just as far as you

2090
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: can stand it. You should like cough or not, because

2091
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 1: you would never do that with a Q tip. But

2092
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: you do that, you're wondering, like will I be able

2093
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: to grab the tip of it to pull it back?

2094
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 1: Will you will know? But in thou But the thing is,

2095
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: you got to be patient. You can't just let go

2096
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: real quick. You gotta hold it in that position to

2097
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 1: let it fully expand so that'll stay put. Because with

2098
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 1: those foamies, as you move your jaw around as you

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01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: mount your gun, you're moving your head around it's gonna

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01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 1: wiggle its way out. It's constantly kind of moving in there.

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01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: It's amazing the difference when you do it right, that

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01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 1: is how I used to do it. Yeah, yeah, well yeah,

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01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I always do it in the way that since I

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01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: take one step, it's gone. The only the only problem

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01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 1: with that is you do not have enough time to

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01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: put those in in most applications in hunting, unless you're

2107
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: like duck hunting. You can like plan ahead, but you

2108
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: don't want to blow a duck call in solid ear plugs, right,

2109
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Shawn like that you can't tell what's going on. Well, yeah,

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01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: you want to be able to hear your duck call.

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01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 1: And so even with these electronics where I get the

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01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: I get the best response from my duck hunters with

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01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: these electronics because they can still here. Because they can

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01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: still here. But you still have to practice. Like some

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01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 1: of my best duck calling clients have coached people to

2116
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 1: record themselves calling with and without the hearing protection in

2117
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: because we talked about this a little bit earlier. It's

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01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: almost like a musical instrument. Um, I can play my

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01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: eighth grade piano recital piece from just muscle memory, but

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01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 1: if I'm learning a new song, it's auditory. You know,

2121
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: you're really paying attention to how it sounds. And with

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01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 1: a lot of duck callers, it's a mix of those

2123
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: two things, and so you're you really need to get

2124
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: the muscle memory part down so that meanwhile you're still

2125
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 1: going to hear it through the ear plugs. It's not

2126
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: it's never going to sound the same. And that's a

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01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that that was a way that

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01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I got to be, not just like a tall herbal

2129
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: or decent duck caller, but to get to be a

2130
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: real advanced duck caller is to record yourself and hear

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01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 1: yourself from a different perspective, because it's never the same

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01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: as how it sounds right here. The same thing with

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01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: playing music. Yeah, yeah, you gotta record yourself into it back.

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01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 1: And by the way, duck calls can get up to

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: twenty decibles. So when you talk about you can damage

2136
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: your ears blown a duck call, absolutely sure I have.

2137
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think duck duck hunters are some of

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01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: the most at risk because you are you're down in

2139
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: those sometimes like a metal pit blind you're blowing duck

2140
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 1: calls and then you're shooting a lot and somebody's all

2141
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden shooting over your head close to somebody. Yeah,

2142
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 1: tell us how bad my hearing is and how good

2143
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: sets hearing? All right, you're hearing. We did a quick

2144
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: test before the podcast started. I'm not going to say

2145
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: I was surprised by your hearing test results though, honestly,

2146
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean you've you've got a forty four year old

2147
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:04,839
Speaker 1: that's done some shooting, some construction. All right, I'll show everyone.

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02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: All right, this is honest is hearing tests. Uh, we're

2149
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: just going to assume that you've signed all the Hippo

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02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 1: releases and I can talk about your medical hearing on

2151
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 1: the on the podcast, But you want everything to be

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02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: above that black horizontal line you see there. And this

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02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 1: this is this is an audiogram. It's arranged from left

2154
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 1: to right based to trouble like a piano keyboard. Top

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02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 1: of the graph is really soft sounds, and then it

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02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: gets louder and louder as you move down the graph.

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02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: So these are your hearing thresholds. The softest sounds that

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Speaker 1: you could detect were present. And so you can see

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02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,840
Speaker 1: in your left ear, which is blue in some of

2160
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: these higher pitches down his shooting ear is way down

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Speaker 1: and the high yeah, and we would call this a

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02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 1: noise notch from shooting, where like the those are the

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02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: hair cells that we talked about earlier that have been

2164
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: the most damaged, and you've got some that's so wrong

2165
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: you might have to edit that out. That was so wrong. Um,

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02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: you don't even try to be politically interesting. Goes back

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02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 1: up like that's the that's the notch components. So a

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02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: lot of times with with a with a blast, or

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02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 1: like if a musician has like a big feedback exposure,

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Speaker 1: it'll present as a notch where yeah, yeah, and you'll

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02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 1: see a little bit of the left one is worse

2172
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 1: than the right. The left is worse, just barely breaks

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Speaker 1: the lines. That should be a way where you can

2174
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Speaker 1: prove how much shooting you do. All right, this is seth.

2175
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Speaker 1: Look at that word he hears those gobbles beautiful dares

2176
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: where I hear the gobbles Where that one goes up

2177
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Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe. I mean, he has excellent hearing

2178
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Speaker 1: and he's that jumpy, so he doesn't do false alarms.

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Speaker 1: Is he younger than everybody? Let me ester, can you

2180
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: will you be able to send us those pictures? I

2181
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,920
Speaker 1: can send them to you for sure, Chester, you're doing

2182
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: pretty good too. Everything's above the line. Left and right

2183
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: here are about the same. You can hear a wallet.

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02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: Was I the closest to set? I think I was

2185
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 1: probably Sean, you're good too, I mean, you're look at that.

2186
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 1: I was really surprised by here. He is always acting

2187
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 1: like he hunts a lot of ducks. But the figures,

2188
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 1: did he honest go lower than I did? Then Garrett's

2189
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: got a bad shooting. Do let me see here? Hold

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02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: on a sec Scarrett, Oh, yours is pretty bad. There's

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Speaker 1: Garrett left here left ear down that body. That's a

2192
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Speaker 1: three gun shooter for you. Yeah, that's a that's that's

2193
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: like an AD. Yeah, that's an AD for muzzle brakes. Man.

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02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: You're right here still looks really good, and you just

2195
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: want to make sure you protect what you've got, you know,

2196
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 1: like you can you can hold this steady if you

2197
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: can be really intentional out. But that shouldn't be only

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02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 1: directed at Garrett and I just because we're already at

2199
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 1: a sad pointing. Those that have great hearing should be

2200
02:03:08,840 --> 02:03:13,839
Speaker 1: even more. We're all about, like I want to prevent

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02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: and delay the problems that I spent so many years

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02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 1: treating clinically because it is so preventable, and so much

2203
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Speaker 1: of the medical communities, like OH treat early with hearing aids.

2204
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Hearing aids earlier. Well, I mean, the hearing aid industry

2205
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 1: is what it is. I say, move away, get out

2206
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 1: from under the dollar signs of the hearing it industry.

2207
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 1: If we want to be the hearing healthcare experts, we

2208
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: got to go to where people are, get out in

2209
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Speaker 1: front of the problem, start the relationship with an audiologist

2210
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Speaker 1: and a hearing care professional before the problem starts. As

2211
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Speaker 1: I was saying, where is your graph? Here's the thing.

2212
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 1: Did you want to finish the test? He did? I

2213
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: think he cheated. I think he cheated the system. This

2214
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: this this because I did better on that than I

2215
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 1: did on my other two hearing tests, which your other

2216
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 1: two hearing tests. It sounds like we're in the legit

2217
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,879
Speaker 1: sound booth, the full diagnostic hearing test. And they were alarmed.

2218
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 1: They were just saying, you have some What I brought you, guys,

2219
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: is a hearing screening tool that's built into a headset.

2220
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: And while it does a very good job and I've

2221
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: seen some good consistent results, it's not as as definitive

2222
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,000
Speaker 1: as what's going to be in a sound booth. Just

2223
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: as you say you can't trust a skinny chef, I

2224
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,879
Speaker 1: don't think you could trust like someone in the hunting

2225
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 1: industry and it doesn't have some hearing laws. Ah, I'll

2226
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: leave it at that. You're very then you're very trustworthy.

2227
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: As I was saying, you're never going to invite me back,

2228
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 1: because no, no, no, you come back the minute you

2229
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,320
Speaker 1: make the turkey gobbl thing. He's just mad at me.

2230
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm just mad at Yanni. You've been great, You're

2231
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna make the turkey gobbl thing. I just wanted to

2232
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 1: clarify a point I have like nothing in the game here.

2233
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: You came to provide a service to equip us with

2234
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:55,839
Speaker 1: the hearing protection friend of a friend of a friend introduced. Yeah.

2235
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: I learned so much and liked it. I have concern

2236
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 1: for other shooters. I know how frustrating is to not

2237
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 1: hear gobbles when other people can hear the gobbles or

2238
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 1: elk bugles, what have you? And uh, I feel like

2239
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: people should um because you're you know, you're fun to

2240
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 1: hang out with, you know all the terminology, you've got

2241
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 1: the product line. People should call up and get some

2242
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: freaking ear plugs. Thank you. I appreciate that Pro Technologies

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Speaker 1: stirred of it, stirred events. Just call me Grace Score.

2245
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Speaker 1: My parents will appreciate it. Whose maiden name was Grace Score.

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Speaker 1: My maiden name was Gray Score. Grace stirred event. You

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Speaker 1: can call me otto pro Grace, Grace. I'll go. I'll

2248
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Speaker 1: be like share from man. Just call me Grace is Tennessee, Hey,

2249
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Speaker 1: not that long ago two thousand seven seven? Oh sorry,

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Speaker 1: someone said I thought, how old you think? I don't

2251
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 1: answer that. No, we're talking about ninety was one that

2252
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 1: eellows don't peaked. Apparently I need to up my skincare

2253
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 1: regime already. I want to say it, but it's already

2254
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:14,440
Speaker 1: happen to you call it. No, I really appreciate you

2255
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: guys having me. Never did I dream when I started

2256
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 1: this little business at my kitchen table in that I'd

2257
02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 1: be sitting here with a national audience in this big network.

2258
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 1: And actually, I truly believe that I'm helping to change

2259
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 1: the conversation about hearing protection. So thank you to close.

2260
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Yanni hit him with a far off bugle, wanna be

2261
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 1: able to hear that. Get some earplugs. You gotta reply.

2262
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:44,800
Speaker 1: Can I give you something to read on the air.

2263
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a great closing, very short. That's Phil

2264
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 1: at this point, Phil, all right. This is Jennifer who

2265
02:06:57,240 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 1: works with Otto Pro. She's our client coordinator. Hers on

2266
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: one of those kind of papers. Her son is such

2267
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 1: a huge fan of all of you guys. He knows

2268
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 1: all your names. He was so just I mean, he

2269
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was coming here, and he went

2270
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 1: by their house to pick up something, handed me this

2271
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 1: to give to you, and I thought it was so

2272
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 1: well written. Okay, I'm reading from one of these pieces

2273
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Speaker 1: of papers. The piece of paper, kids, get where it's

2274
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 1: got all the lines so you can make your penmanship perfect.

2275
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Speaker 1: Dear Mr Steve Alex guy already. I love your TV shows.

2276
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: My favorite shows about bow fishing. I have never done that,

2277
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: but I hope I get to do that one day.

2278
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: I like to hunt and fish so I can be

2279
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: like my dad and grandfather. Listen to Miss Grace, so

2280
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: you can keep teaching me a few things. Keep keep

2281
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: teaching me new things. That's great. From Liam Stewart Age seven,

2282
02:07:55,920 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 1: and he included his address. Yes you want to send

2283
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: him a book, the line about listen to Miss Grace

2284
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 1: so you can keep teaching me. I think that's pretty sweet.

2285
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you for tuning in. Thank you