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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Did a beloved lady pediatrician specializing, of course, in treating children,

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Speaker 2: hire a hit man after she loses custody in the

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Speaker 2: last days a courtroom showdown. I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. This woman

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Speaker 2: actually has a medical degree and was beloved in the

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Speaker 2: community as a pediatrician. Everybody wanted their child to go

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Speaker 2: to doctor Stephanie Russell. Well, little did they know this

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Speaker 2: woman talked to people on her staff about hiring a

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Speaker 2: hit man in order to kill her husband. This after

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Speaker 2: evidence comes to light that this pediatrician also tried voodoo

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Speaker 2: right black magic. She reportedly consulted with spiritualists euphemistically called

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Speaker 2: to put a deadly spell on her husband. Spiritualists, voodoo

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Speaker 2: princes and princesses that promised death success rates eighty five percent.

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Speaker 2: Hold on just a moment, Okay, Hiring a hit man

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Speaker 2: is one thing, but trying to use voodoo and death

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Speaker 2: spells on your husband that is a whole another thing.

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Speaker 2: Admitted into evidence a series of WhatsApp text messages showing

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Speaker 2: the doctor try to enlist services of would be occult

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Speaker 2: practitioners to kill her ex husband with a quote death

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Speaker 2: a spell end quote. Then she ended up paying a

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Speaker 2: fake assassin half a retainer. Ah, this is after her

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Speaker 2: attempts with the supernatural.

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Speaker 1: This is a doctor with a medical degree.

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Speaker 2: She writes on the WhatsApp to the occult leader's quote,

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Speaker 2: what is your success rate? Your price, your guarantee? She

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Speaker 2: asks in one message with a flurry of questions. One

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Speaker 2: princess of the occult identified only as Mama, replies death

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Speaker 2: success rates are eighty five percent and then tells Russell

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Speaker 2: quote the price depends on the number of people what

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Speaker 2: you want dead. The occultist offers a one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: guarantee or money back. Russell, the pediatric doctor, actually writes,

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Speaker 2: do you use sacrifice your Lord in heaven, to which

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Speaker 2: quote Mama end quote responds no. At five hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty dollars per death spell. Dr Russell asked the voodoo

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Speaker 2: princess if payment can be made after the death. The

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Speaker 2: voodoo princess replies she only works on a cash basis. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's get out of voodoo and focus on the hit man.

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Speaker 1: This is what we know. Let's go Jackie hit it.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Stephanie Russell is of a loved pediatrician with over

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Speaker 3: three thousand patients in her practice. Kids Life Pediatrics website

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Speaker 3: shows a child's dream office Think Disney overload with promises

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Speaker 3: of things like a live finding Nemo fish tank. Russell,

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Speaker 3: a graduate from the University of Louisville School of Medicine,

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Speaker 3: has been a licensed doctor for nearly twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Now you heard it, her kid friendly workspace, her office,

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Speaker 2: Well listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Russell and her ex husband, Morgan Stanley financial planner, Rick Crabtree,

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Speaker 3: have been in a contentious custody battle for over two years.

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Speaker 3: Allegations of abuse were leveled against the husband and allegations

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Speaker 3: of a murder plot levied against Stephanie Russell. In twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: a detective with the Louisville Metro Police Department was assigned

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Speaker 3: to investigate Crabtree. During that investigation, Crabtree told the detective

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Speaker 3: that Russell wanted him dead so that she could take

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Speaker 3: full custody of their two children. Crabtree's attorney gave police

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Speaker 3: a sworn statement from the couple's former nanny, which said

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Speaker 3: that she identified as Ks, had been approached by doctor

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Speaker 3: Russell on multiple occasions about getting rid of Crabtree. KS

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Speaker 3: assumed Russell was joking until Russell specifically asked if ks

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Speaker 3: knew really bad people. The FBI interviewed various people about

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Speaker 3: the plot. None could cooberate Crabtree's allegations, and the case

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Speaker 3: was closed soon after Russell's claims of abuse were found

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Speaker 3: to be unsubstantiated. Crabtree was awarded custody of the children,

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Speaker 3: with Russell getting twice weekly supervised visits.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing to clinch your custody case like trying

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Speaker 2: to hire a hitman. With me an all star panel

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Speaker 2: to make sense of what we know right now about

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Speaker 2: this beloved female pediatrician out of Kentucky. Kathleen Murphy family

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Speaker 2: lawyer joining us out of North Carolina. She's at NCD

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Speaker 2: Domestic Law dot com. Renowned psychologists joining us from Manhattan.

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Speaker 2: Karen Stark at Karenstark dot com. That's Karen w Esse.

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Speaker 1: Paul Zeike special guests joining us.

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Speaker 2: Former police commander and Albuquerque author of Stop Him From

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Speaker 2: Killing Them on Amazon. You can find him on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at workplace threat. But first to Alexis Terestchat Crime online

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Speaker 2: dot com investigative reporter, you were just hearing from our

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Speaker 2: friends at crime online. But Alexis Trestchuk, let's just start.

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Speaker 1: With hiring a hit man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're going to have to backtrack

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Speaker 2: and talk about this mom losing custody of her children.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, you got to bend over backwards

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Speaker 2: and do some sort of a contortion for a mother

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Speaker 2: to lose custody. Okay, we all know that Alexis Terrestchuk,

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Speaker 2: you have a baby, as I like to call him,

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Speaker 2: I have a baby. And as many times as I

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Speaker 2: would probably like to do my husband harm, I would

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Speaker 2: never jeopardize being with the twins ever.

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Speaker 1: Never.

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Speaker 2: Plus, I mean, you know David, he's very lovable. So

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Speaker 2: Alexis Trestchuk, how do we get to hiring a hit man?

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Speaker 2: What evidence is there that she, this beloved pediatrician wanted

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Speaker 2: to hire a hit man? Now?

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Speaker 1: What did I hear about coworkers?

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Speaker 4: So she actually tried to hire a hitman two different times.

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Speaker 4: The first time she kept talking to her nanny, the

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Speaker 4: the couple headed nanny, her husband, No, the p nutrician.

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Speaker 1: Cousin, Alexis Holton. Just a moment.

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, Kathleen Murphy, you want to hire a hitman?

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Speaker 1: Murder?

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Speaker 2: Bloody stinking, gooey, sticky murder, and you go to of.

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Speaker 1: Course, Hitman Central, you're nanny, really.

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Speaker 5: Stupidest, stupidest, stupidest booth ever.

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Speaker 2: This woman has a medical degree. She is not an idiot.

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Speaker 2: She's got a practice of about three thousand children.

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Speaker 1: She's rolling in money a nanny, she's not stupid.

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Speaker 4: Clearly she's a psychopath.

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Speaker 5: She thinks that her she's not connected. Obviously she's missing

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Speaker 5: some links.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how okay, now, Witte, when you say

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Speaker 2: she's not connected to me, that means you don't know

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Speaker 2: anybody in a gang or a mom.

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Speaker 1: If you're not connected, do you know she's not connected?

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Speaker 5: Mentally, she's not all there.

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Speaker 6: For her to be able to think that nobody is

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Speaker 6: going to speak about this is ludicrous. Everybody loves to talk,

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Speaker 6: especially if there's a custody trial and they want to

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what this nanny did. She came into

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Speaker 5: for hire.

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Speaker 2: Wish you know, Kathleen Murphy, I was expecting a little

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Speaker 2: more from you than she's not connected.

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Speaker 1: Guys, hold on just a moment. I want you to hear.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for proof, because it's going to take a

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Speaker 2: lot of proof from me to believe that this mom,

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Speaker 2: this mother, this beloved pediatrician that has a client list

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Speaker 2: of over three thousand children that everybody loves, They all

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Speaker 2: love her, would try to commit murder. And that's what

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Speaker 2: hiring a hit man is. You're committing murder. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it's even worse under the Criminal Code because murder for

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Speaker 2: hire is an aggravating circumstance under which the state can

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Speaker 2: seek the death penalty. That is not true in every

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Speaker 2: bar brawl that ends in a death, But this is

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Speaker 2: murder with a pecuniary or money interest involved, and that

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Speaker 2: is taken even more seriously by the criminal Codes. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen to Hour Cut seven c our Friends at WLKY.

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Speaker 7: New documents show Russell used the code of flowers and

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Speaker 7: text messages when discussing the murder with two nurses at

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Speaker 7: her practice. One of the employees told Russell in December

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Speaker 7: she knew someone who would commit the crime. According to

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Speaker 7: text messages, Russell wanted the murder to take place before Christmas,

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Speaker 7: documents show when that employee told Russell the alleged hitman

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Speaker 7: had died and couldn't commit the hit. Russell then asked

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Speaker 7: if the employee would pull the trigger themselves. That employee

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Speaker 7: said no, and soon after left the practice.

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Speaker 2: I guess, so I guess she did leave the practice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Paul Zeke, former police commander in Albuquerque, in

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Speaker 2: author I wouldn't put a whole lot of stought in

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Speaker 2: one nanny that said, yeah, she told me she wanted

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Speaker 2: her husband dead. Did I know anybody that could kill him? No,

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Speaker 2: that's not enough to make a case.

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Speaker 1: But now I have an.

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Speaker 2: Employee that says she was approached by the defendant, the

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Speaker 2: female pediatrician, and when that hitman didn't work out, she asked, well,

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Speaker 2: could you do it yourself?

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Speaker 1: Can you kill him?

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Speaker 2: Well, the woman or man says no and leaves the practice.

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Speaker 2: Now we're cooking with ask Paul's like, now, I feel

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Speaker 2: like we might have an investigation.

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Speaker 8: Going absolutely When you reach a point in an investigation

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Speaker 8: where you have coroborating witnesses that have direct evidence things

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Speaker 8: that they've seen themselves or heard themselves, who have nothing

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Speaker 8: to gain from the situation by telling the truth, absolutely.

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Speaker 8: You now are starting to build a foundation to move

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Speaker 8: this case forward.

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Speaker 2: New York Psychologist. Of course the person left the practice

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Speaker 2: because not only does she pressure.

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Speaker 1: The employee to find a hit man, find a hit man,

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Speaker 1: then the hit man goes and dies. Did she ask

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Speaker 1: the employee to pull the trigger for Pete's sake?

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Speaker 9: To two of the nurses that work for her, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: she had a code with them.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot that part.

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Speaker 2: She used the code word flowers and takes messages when

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Speaker 2: discussing the murder. And you're right, Karen, starting not one

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Speaker 1: We're talking about murder, and.

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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy, that's how in these kind of situations

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Speaker 9: They have to go to people that are close to

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Speaker 2: But the irony here is, though, Karen Stark, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're a healthcare professional. You're asking a nurse who I

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Speaker 2: know doctors have to take the hippocratic oath where you

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Speaker 2: vow to quote, do no harm, and I assume nurses

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Speaker 2: but two nurses two too murder somebody. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: hard for me to believe, which I'm actually starting to

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Speaker 2: buy into. Kathleen Murphy zany dare I say it. She's

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Speaker 2: a veteran trial lawyer, tough as nails, that she's quote

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Speaker 2: not connected. I mean, Karen Stark, how many times have

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Speaker 2: we talked about that idiot OJ Simpson about a million

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Speaker 2: and the possibility that it was all just a big

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Speaker 2: police cover up. Do you really think, Karen Stark, that

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Speaker 2: all those cops have stayed quiet, silent, quiet as the

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Speaker 2: grave for all these years when they could have sold

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Speaker 2: out for a big book deal and made millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars in granting movie rights if there had been a

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Speaker 2: cover up, if there had been a conspiracy. People cannot

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Speaker 2: keep their yap shut. We've discussed that a million times,

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Speaker 2: Karen Stark, for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: So there's no way these nurses were not going to blab.

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Speaker 9: Well, of course, that's the whole point, is I mean,

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Speaker 9: there's no judgment involved in this, and no conscience as

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Speaker 9: we know because not thinking twice about the idea of

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Speaker 9: killing somebody. I mean, that's somebody who could you know,

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Speaker 9: just go point to somebody in the street and say,

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Speaker 9: why don't we shoot them? Because she has no conscience,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter and her judgment is so off. It's

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Speaker 9: a little scary. Because she's a medical professional, people will talk.

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Speaker 2: Karen Starr, You've been with me from the beginning when

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Speaker 2: I dreamed of a family, and then when I got pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Joining us out of North Carolina, explain what is a

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Speaker 5: Typically, a supervised visit is professionally supervised. There are people

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Speaker 2: Order supervised visits. Kathleen Murphy joining me out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Does the case of Josh Powell ring a bell to you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the social worker was bringing the children though to

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Speaker 2: Josh Powell murdered his two little boys during a supervised

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Speaker 1: He had already murdered their mother, Susan Cox. Powell.

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Speaker 2: That's what a supervised visit is. You're either sitting in

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Speaker 2: do you know how crazy that would make me? If

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Speaker 1: I go crazy. I have a rule.

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Speaker 2: I try to never stay away over one night. The

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Speaker 2: none of that would happen with if I were home.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It's veggies around the table where you interact.

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Speaker 2: You say your prayer first, and you talk about your

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Speaker 2: But they're fine, it's me I suffer. I hate it

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Speaker 9: Didn't like that from the very beginning, Nancy, Right from

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Speaker 1: Awful. It's I can attest to that, appreciating.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, finally, by the end of it, my

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Speaker 1: This is like the face time we've done. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: how mad do you think this mom is?

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Speaker 2: She's so smart, she's so educated, and somehow she's painted

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 9: And that's because she's a danger to those children. Nancy,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you how mad did that make her? I'm

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Speaker 9: Obviously she was mad to begin with. She right from

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Speaker 5: Who's jumping in This is Kathleen Murphy. And she was

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Speaker 5: mad that she had supervised visitation. But as KARENCEA, she

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Speaker 1: And that's what letter do you know?

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Speaker 2: You? You, of all people, Kathleen Murphy cannot throw around

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Speaker 2: Crazy means something under the lawn to the old McNaughton

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Speaker 1: From Great Britain.

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Speaker 2: All right, It means did you know right from wrong

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Speaker 1: Was she trying to frame the husband.

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Speaker 4: As their divorce began. She accused her husband of sexually

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Speaker 5: Daddy did this to me.

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Speaker 4: And she's wait, wait, you're not doing it right. Let's

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Speaker 1: So that was also given to the judge Paul.

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Speaker 2: Zide joining me, former police commander and Albuquerque and author

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Speaker 2: of Stop Him From Killing Them on Amazon. Man the

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Speaker 8: is that that's a conduct inhibitor. It's something that makes

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Speaker 8: The conduct inhibitor. That's one of the things in my

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Speaker 8: There's a whole list of them that in my you know,

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Speaker 2: Right, you're starting to sound like the crazy old guys

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Speaker 2: So you're saying conduct inhibitors are when you take away

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, Paul Zike.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely not just a crime, especially a crime of passion,

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Speaker 2: Paul Zeke is with me and he's saying that this

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, Paul Zike. You take away the

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Speaker 2: But when was it, Alexis Treschuk, was it before or

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Speaker 4: of the children.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, I see what she means.

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Speaker 2: So she was threatened with losing custody and she started

442
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Speaker 2: doing these videos. So Paul's likes theory dot conduct inhibitors

443
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: is actually correct in this case. Guys, take a listen

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Speaker 2: to our cut for our friends at Wave.

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Speaker 12: Russell was the one to lose custody in twenty twenty

446
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Speaker 12: after a court appointed representative for the children claimed she

447
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Speaker 12: was coaching the kids into making allegations about her ex husband,

448
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 12: and in May twenty eighteen that she tried to hire

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Speaker 12: a hitman to kill him. According to court records, Russell's

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Speaker 12: attorney called the allegation preposterous in a lawsuit against the judge,

451
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Speaker 12: writing in this complaint there have never been any criminal charges.

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Speaker 12: They would come four years later, when the FED set

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Speaker 12: up a sting on May fifteenth, twenty two, official say

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Speaker 12: Russell reached out to a hitman and agreed to pay

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Speaker 12: him seven thousand dollars to kill her ex husband. On

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Speaker 12: May eighteenth, The officer say she put half the cash

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Speaker 12: in her dropbox at her office and promised to pay

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Speaker 12: the rest once the murder was complete.

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Speaker 1: According to court records.

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Speaker 12: The next day, she was behind bars because agents say

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Speaker 12: the person Russell thought was a hitman was an undercover cop.

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Speaker 1: Of course he was. You can't swing a stick around.

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Speaker 2: Your head without hitting an FBI agent posing.

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Speaker 1: As a hitman.

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Speaker 2: Oh so, not only does she leave the videos on

466
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Speaker 2: her phone, coaching her children to make claims of sex

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Speaker 2: mostation my dad reach out to her nanny and two

468
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Speaker 2: of her nurses in her practice to hire a hitman

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Speaker 2: or commit the murder themselves.

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Speaker 1: It just keeps getting worse.

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Speaker 2: Now, what did I hear about a previous attempt.

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Speaker 1: To hire a hit man?

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at crimeonline dot com

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Speaker 2: our cut seven g.

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Speaker 3: The investigation into a second murder for higher plot came

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Speaker 3: after a Louisville Metro detective contacted the FBI. The detective

477
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: had been contacted by a local private investigator who had

478
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Speaker 3: potential information, and that information came from someone who worked

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Speaker 3: at Kids' Life Pediatrics. The PI learned Russell had approached

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Speaker 3: several employees about killing her ex husband, and then the

481
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Speaker 3: PI urged the employee to contact the FBI. The informant

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Speaker 3: met with agents, saying that Russell had been asking for

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Speaker 3: help in killing Crabtree for the last ten months. One

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Speaker 3: of the nurses provided screenshots of text conversations with her boss,

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Speaker 3: doctor Stephanie Russell, discussing delivery of Christmas flowers, Russell's code

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Speaker 3: word for murder. A screenshot of the exchange in part

487
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Speaker 3: went like this, are you still looking for flowers? I

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Speaker 3: actually do need flowers? Russell replied, oh nice, Can I

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Speaker 3: drop my your house tonight tomorrow night, Friday night, Saturday Sunday. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: Russell and the nurse met in person, but the nurse

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Speaker 3: was wired for audio and video courtesy of the FBI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to say no to an FBI

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Speaker 2: agent if possible. I mean Kathleen Murphy joining US veterin

494
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Speaker 2: trial lawyer out of North Carolina, Kathleen Murphy. So there's

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Speaker 2: not just this attempt to hire a hit man. There's another,

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Speaker 2: a first attempt.

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Speaker 1: To hire a hitman.

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Speaker 5: There were three total attempts in my in my reading,

499
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Speaker 5: first she wanted the nurse, or first she wanted her

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Speaker 5: nanny to help her hire a hitman. Then the nurse

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Speaker 5: in her practice, and then the second nurse in her practice,

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Speaker 5: because the first nurse said that the hitman that she

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Speaker 5: was going to send her way had died, and then

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Speaker 5: that nurse left the practice, so she went to the

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Speaker 5: second nurse in the practice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the evidence continues to mount. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: Paul Zike, former placed commander in Albuquerque, the FBI must

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Speaker 2: have a whole wing of agents that are posing as hitmen.

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Speaker 8: It's something they specialize in. I mean, they're really good

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Speaker 8: at it. It's one of the you know, just like

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Speaker 8: economic crimes type of thing where they can follow the uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, the the breadcrumbs, if you will, a lot

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Speaker 8: of these things cross state lines and you know, and

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Speaker 8: generally speaking, there is some complexity to it. But yes,

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Speaker 8: they have a lot of field agents that are highly

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Speaker 8: skilled at this. They're looking, you know, the first time

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Speaker 8: they looked at this, you know, it's not something you

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Speaker 8: see a whole lot of. Unfortunately, well I should say

519
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Speaker 8: fortunately when when it was brought to their attention they

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Speaker 8: kind of close the case. Well, the second time around

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Speaker 8: it was enough to get their attention, and they got

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Speaker 8: lucky because if it would have happened after the first time,

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Speaker 8: they would have been, you know, left holding the back

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Speaker 8: because they had some of the information before. But obviously

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Speaker 8: the second time they were given the case, they grabbed

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Speaker 8: down to it. With bold hands.

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Speaker 2: That is not giving me a lot of confidence that

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Speaker 2: they just quote, as you said, kind of close the

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Speaker 2: case the first time she tried to hire a hitman. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Alexis Terreschuk, this happens to me at the dentist, and

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Speaker 2: I hope my dentist.

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Speaker 1: Who crazy story, Jackie.

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Speaker 2: He hang in the mountain and he was doing something.

534
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Speaker 2: He goes, you know it's on one of your juries, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm like the Then suddenly it all came rushing back

536
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Speaker 2: to back. And even remember what he wore as a juror.

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Speaker 2: He wore a ten pullover. It looked like Kashmir v

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Speaker 2: neck sweater with a kind of a brown shirt underneath.

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Speaker 2: He's perfectly dressed, perfectly everything. This dentist, he's awesome. But

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Speaker 2: he'll do whatever he's doing. And then it has to

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Speaker 2: wait sometimes and I can sit there, I can't move,

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Speaker 2: can't get on my phone or anything else. I can

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Speaker 2: hear the dental assistance talking, and they're always talking about

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Speaker 2: like their vacation or this or that. It's never anything

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Speaker 2: in scendiary. They're not talking about other patients. They're just

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Speaker 2: passing the time today, don't you know these nurses were

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Speaker 2: all talking about she wants to hurry hit man. She

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Speaker 2: wants to kill Crabtree, the husband. You know they were

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Speaker 2: all talking about.

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Speaker 4: It right well, and then what they would have had

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Speaker 4: to have done. The one says, well, I'm so sorry

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Speaker 4: that the hit man that I tried to get you died.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing like oh my gosh, how was he killed?

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Speaker 4: What happened there?

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Speaker 5: Or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Like that is also a huge red flag, like did

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Speaker 4: they talk to the nurses talk to each other and

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Speaker 4: say how can we get out of this? And she

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Speaker 4: would just tell me died and then you'll get out

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Speaker 4: of it because you think, oh, well he died, okay.

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Speaker 4: How many people know more than one hit man? It's

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Speaker 4: absolutely crazy. And that she kept doing it again the

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Speaker 4: first time she.

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Speaker 9: Was investigated for it, so she.

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Speaker 4: Must have known that they were on to her, but

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Speaker 4: yet so arrogant, so confident in her own ability to

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Speaker 4: trick law enforcement and the judges and her husband who

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Speaker 4: is a very smart finance guy, and that she could

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Speaker 4: still hire a hitman to do it.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about him for a moment.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine how his whole life would have been

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Speaker 2: ruined with these allegations of molesting his own children.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does that bother anybody but me? Kathleen Murphy.

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Speaker 2: You're a family lawyer, and that is certainly a euphemism,

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Speaker 2: because family law, it sounds all cozy, is actually down

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Speaker 2: and dirty. Have you ever seen that where one party

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Speaker 2: tries to get the children to fabricate allegations against the

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Speaker 2: other parent.

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Speaker 5: I do, But Nancy, you know it's worse is when

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Speaker 5: I have a client who believes that there's something going on,

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Speaker 5: and they're damned if they do, and they're damned if

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Speaker 5: they don't, if they don't say anything, and they have

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Speaker 5: these realistic concerns that's not good. And then if they

584
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Speaker 5: say something, then they're seen in this light of she's

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Speaker 5: just making it up to get leverage in a custody case.

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Speaker 5: It's very difficult, but.

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Speaker 2: People would always wonder, did he do it? Did he

588
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Speaker 2: molest his children? You know, just making a note to

589
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Speaker 2: talk to you about Kathleen Murphy, high profile lawyer joining

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Speaker 2: me out of North Carolina. To prove a conspiracy, you

591
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Speaker 2: have to have more than just shop talk. You can't

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Speaker 2: just hey, I want to kill him, you know, a

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Speaker 2: hit man. You have to make what is called under

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Speaker 2: the law, an overt act you actually have to do something,

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Speaker 2: otherwise you could just say it trial. Yeah, I dreamed

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Speaker 2: about it, I talked about it. I knew it was wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'd never do it. But here she's accused of putting

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Speaker 2: nearly four thousand dollars in a drop box to pay

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Speaker 2: the hitman.

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Speaker 1: And under the law, that is an overt act, is

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Speaker 1: it not Kathleen Murphy not.

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Speaker 5: Only putting the money in there, but then giving the

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Speaker 5: individual a code to get in that medical lock box

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Speaker 5: to retrieve the money. That's how they were able to

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Speaker 5: connect it, because they didn't have a video of her

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Speaker 5: during the surveillance of her putting the money in the dropbox.

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Speaker 5: But what they had to connect it was that she

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Speaker 5: had provided the code for that individual to remove the

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Speaker 5: money from.

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Speaker 2: The dropbock and even wiring the nurse still may it

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Speaker 2: may have been.

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Speaker 1: Helpful, but it's still just talk. Does not a conspiracy make?

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Speaker 1: There has to be that over, guys.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friend Rachel Drose and our

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Speaker 2: cut six from Whas.

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Speaker 13: And I actually ran into one parent who was here

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Speaker 13: today trying to pick up his children's medical records.

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Speaker 4: She's been their primary caregiver for six years, so it's

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Speaker 4: just freaking.

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Speaker 1: Shocking, to say the least, and it's very sad.

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Speaker 13: The FBI arrested doctor Stephanie Russell last night and charged

622
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Speaker 13: her with trying to hire someone to murder her ex husband.

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Speaker 13: Instead of hiring a hitman, Russell actually hired an undercover

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Speaker 13: FBI employee, according to court filings. The Louisville pediatrician works

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Speaker 13: in the Norton Commons neighborhood at Kids' Life Pediatrics.

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Speaker 2: I now several parents in this area that bring their

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Speaker 2: children here, and like I said, I've only heard positive,

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Speaker 2: wonderful things about them.

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Speaker 13: When I went by there, a handwritten closed sign was

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Speaker 13: posted on the door, and when I tried to call,

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Speaker 13: there was no answer.

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Speaker 6: With doctor Russell, everything was fine, Like she was pleasant,

633
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Speaker 6: she was sweet, The girls liked her.

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Speaker 13: Lance Duley, the dad trying to pick up his kids'

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Speaker 13: medical records, wasn't able to get in touch with anyone.

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Speaker 4: We're right around the corner, and money drop offs were

637
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Speaker 4: happening right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Like that freaks us out, I guess, So now take

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Speaker 1: a listen to this.

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Speaker 2: After the arrest, she tried valiantly to get a bond

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Speaker 2: and get out. Don't you know that husband was hiding

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Speaker 2: under his bed. Take a listen to our cut seven

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Speaker 2: b R friends in whas.

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Speaker 14: The judge ruled Russell will stay in custody, saying that

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Speaker 14: the evidence presented so far shows she was persistent in

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Speaker 14: her desire to execute that murder for higher plot. Doctor

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Speaker 14: Stephanie Russell faces up to ten years in prison. Court

648
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Speaker 14: documents show an employee at Russell's pediatric office came forward

649
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Speaker 14: saying Russell asked several people to help her find someone

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Speaker 14: to kill her ex husband. Prosecutors argued the nature of

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Speaker 14: the crime and her commitment or reason to keep her

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Speaker 14: in jail. Russell's attorneys argued she'd never been convicted of

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Speaker 14: a crime and needed to be released on home incarceration

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Speaker 14: to keep running her pediatric practice. The judge ultimately said

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Speaker 14: Russell needed to stay in custody, believing she could be

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Speaker 14: a danger.

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Speaker 1: In an affidavit, text between Russell and.

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Speaker 14: A witness show her seeking information about hiring a hitman,

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Speaker 14: contacting the witness several times.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of months.

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Speaker 14: Central through this case as well Russell's contentious divorce, during

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Speaker 14: which she accused her ex husband of abuse, court documents

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Speaker 14: show and investigation found no evidence, and he was granted custody.

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Speaker 1: To Alexis Raschak and the rest of the panel. Jump in.

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Speaker 2: Remember this is not a tea party at high growth.

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Speaker 2: Jump in when you have a thought, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: her mugshot and she is actually wearing her scrubs, her

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Speaker 2: doctor's smock. I guess they arrested her right there at

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Speaker 2: her practice. So Alexis Terresshak jump I was going to

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Speaker 2: ask where the case stands.

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Speaker 1: Alexis, So get that question in your mind. Go hey, Kathleen, they.

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Speaker 5: May be stacking some charges on her because of the

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Speaker 5: fake videos and causing false testimony in court. They can

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Speaker 5: have many more charges on this individual aside from the

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Speaker 5: murder for hirepod.

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Speaker 2: The only place she can go because she is caught

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Speaker 2: red handed is depleted. Some kind of a mother in

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Speaker 2: sanity that the thought of losing her children pushed her

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Speaker 2: over the edge. In the last days, a beloved lady

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Speaker 2: doctor specializing in pediatrics gets twelve years behind bars. Twelve

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Speaker 2: years behind First, she tries a voodoo princess known as

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Speaker 2: Mama Okay.

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Speaker 1: She wants a death spell.

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Speaker 2: When that apparently goes nowhere, she hires a hit man

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Speaker 2: a hit man to murder her ex husband Ouch. Twelve

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Speaker 2: years in the can, the pen, the big dollhouse for

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Speaker 2: pediatrician doctor Stephanie Russell.

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Speaker 1: Why she not only.

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Speaker 2: Tried to have a death spell put on her husband,

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Speaker 2: she tried to hire a hitman. You know what, There's

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Speaker 2: no telling what kind of voodoo spells and potions this

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Speaker 2: doctor is going to cook up behind bars. Wow, I

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Speaker 2: wonder if she's listening to crime stories right now?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, hex me.

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Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friends,