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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, the Patriots dialed back to a walk through place,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna break down the upcoming joint practice with

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. Let's do it. Welcome to the Patriots

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Speaker 1: Training Camp cast, everybody. I'm Mike do So, joined by

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Speaker 1: Paul Perilo and Evan Lazar and guys. Today the eleventh

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Speaker 1: practice of training Camp. Dial Back to walk through seem

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Speaker 1: like they're really getting prepared for the Washington Commanders who

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Speaker 1: are gonna come in here tomorrow for a nice set

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Speaker 1: of joint practice. Is always fun to watch, But Paul,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the biggest thing that stood out to me,

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Speaker 1: aside from some of the attendant stuff, is just getting

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Speaker 1: ready for Jad and Daniels in that offense.

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Speaker 2: And listening to Jabrill Peppers talk about it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: it's a good test for them. It's a guy that

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Speaker 2: was obviously pretty dynamic as a rookie last year. Peppers

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Speaker 2: talked about wanting to make sure that the discipline, the

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Speaker 2: eyes were in the right place. They want to make

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Speaker 2: sure they maintain their containment on the outside. So I

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Speaker 2: do think it'll be a nice little test for the defense.

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Speaker 2: They will see a handful of mobile guys and you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously Daniels is as electric as any of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything stand out to you today, Well, it would.

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Speaker 3: Just be interesting to see if some of the carryover

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Speaker 3: the reps that we saw in today's practice with you know,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Bryant still mixing in, Javon Baker mixing in a

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Speaker 3: with Drake May and with the top offense. We'll see

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Speaker 3: you because daylight tomorrow is a day that Javon Baker

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Speaker 3: could make the team theoretically if he has a great

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Speaker 3: just interested to see if that was like kind of

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Speaker 3: setting the table for giving those guys some of those

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Speaker 3: seen a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to set the table a little bit

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Speaker 1: for joint practices. But first let's just talk a little

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Speaker 1: about the attendance two guys who left practice yesterday, Marcellus

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Speaker 1: We did see Carlton Davis, who continues his pattern of

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Speaker 1: showing up for walkthroughs light participant. Wouldn't anticipate to see

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Speaker 1: him either tomorrow or Friday nights still, but overall, it

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Speaker 1: seems like some of the depth on the offensive line

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Speaker 1: that's where I'm most interested. Guys. You know, Citisow has

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Speaker 1: been out for a little while, Caden Wallace has been

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Speaker 1: You know, they brought in Alec Lindstrom at center as well.

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Speaker 1: How much is Will Campbell gonna play? I'm not expecting

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of Morgan Moses, but when I

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Speaker 1: look at these tackle positions, we've seen, like you said,

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Speaker 1: have more of Marcus Bryant in recent days. Tray Jacobs

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Speaker 1: has continued to work in with that unit. Those are

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Speaker 1: Bryant and Jacobs has two tackles who opportunity for a

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Speaker 1: swing tackle position, but also very valuable depth. And you

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Speaker 1: can tell through training camp the Patriots have kind of

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Speaker 1: been building towards having that depth by getting them reps

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the right tackle spot is interesting because

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Speaker 2: of exactly what you said. Morgan Moses has been out

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Speaker 2: there every day but I think lately we've seen less

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Speaker 2: when they were doing the walkthrough stuff, there was a

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Speaker 1: Have you talked a little bit about wide receiver position.

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Speaker 1: I just want to hammer down on that a little

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Speaker 3: Of teams nowadays carrying six receivers on their fifty three

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's Javon Baker based off of what

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Speaker 3: We'll see. But I'm just fascinated to see who catches

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, ye, Paul, I don't know if we're going to

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Speaker 1: see Carlton Davis. A lot of opportunity, opportunity at that

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna mean opportunities for guys like Kobe Minor,

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Speaker 2: So opportunities definitely, for sure, some of those younger secondary corners,

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Speaker 3: That's a fun conversation because I think in Washington they're

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Speaker 3: So now with the Patriots corners, we're talking about their

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Speaker 3: So it's a fun little matchup there of two groups

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Speaker 3: So we've heard a lot about you know, Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last point I want to talk about is just

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Speaker 1: Drake May the quarterback for me. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: But I've found that as we've gotten into the more

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Speaker 2: One thing that I would be paying attention to. It's

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Speaker 2: a combination of what both of you guys have talked about,

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Speaker 2: The pass protection I don't think has been really good

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Speaker 2: And I like to see which of these receivers that

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Speaker 2: Evan talked about already starts to emerge. So let's say

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Speaker 2: I get an opportunity, there's four of us for one job.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take the step forward and I'm going

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Speaker 2: to emerge as the leading candidate, and absolutely Drake May.

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Speaker 2: It starts with Drake May in his consistency.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I feel like in these

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Speaker 3: practices we see some really high end flashes from Drake May,

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Speaker 3: dropping throws in the bucket and making some real highlight

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Speaker 3: mentioned the offensive line. We got to talk about it

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Speaker 3: I would say there's strength in Washington's the interior defensive line,

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Speaker 3: as well as your own teammates. So let's see how

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Speaker 3: it looks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a lot to watch tomorrow during joint practices.

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Speaker 1: it's a great take. If not, we'll be live on

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Speaker 1: the air with Patriots Unfiltered as practice starts off to

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Speaker 1: set the scene for you, and then of course we'll

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Speaker 1: be back after practice with a full Patriots Training Camp cast,

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Speaker 1: recapping everything that went down at joint practices. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you then,